It ain't Free Vigil tho.
#Arknights
willow nymph
why would you borrow a p1 6*
hot rampart
he doesnt have reed
willow nymph
unironicallt
hot rampart
willow nymph
borrow a p4 or 6
versed compass
smartest ak player
hot rampart
who the fuck has high pot reed here tho
quaint arch
he doesnt have reed
I failed @versed compass, guys
willow nymph
i have friends w it
quaint arch
versed compass
borrow a p4 or 6
too lazy to add one/refresh for one
hot rampart
her skin comes with degen event right
willow nymph
yeh
hot rampart
hot rampart
(so glad i pulled reed in 10 pull)
quaint arch
willow nymph
hacker
tardy vigil
IS4 bullies me
willow nymph
only get dominion bosky when you have dominion 2 applied
versed compass
only get dominion bosky when you have dominion 2 applied
dominion bosky when the map only have 10 deployable slots :
wanton stratus
This is like a king wrapping himself in dirty rags and venturing out into the streets to blend in with his peasant subjects
devout zenith
the prince and the pauper
versed compass
apparently ulpain s3 count as a deploy
so if you had the 60% hp lose on deploy debuff from IS4 he can insta die
from using s3 and deactivating it
ebon sphinx
snrk
versed compass
this also mean he can use on deploy relics like sui more often
which is not much atm but can be relevant in future who knows
hot rampart
the only good combo i can think of is the 50% hp barrier on deploy for melee units
which is so perfect for his high hp pool too
tardy vigil
so if you had the 60% hp lose on deploy debuff from IS4 he can insta die
Dogfighting in is2
Just heal back his 19k hp
hot rampart
fuck sui relic in is4
that shit just makes the speedster moves fast when u dont want them to
tardy vigil
the only good combo i can think of is the 50% hp barrier on deploy for melee uni...
That sounds op with him at start and end of s3
tardy vigil
But again, 100 armor 
hot rampart
doesnt matter
versed compass
god fucking mimic chest
forced me to leak while i was trying to heal my collapse with eternal hunting
versed compass
good news is i had the relic with bonus ingot from chests
mimic goes from 10 to 25
versed compass
surprise in hand too
and the discounted shop have cannot relic
very good shop actually
mumu relics
versed compass
sir its the same run
quaint arch
2 is a solid amount
Idk, why not get Flametail/Ines while at it?
Gotta maximize the benefit somehow
versed compass
i dont get enough vg tickets ya know
why do you think i only have 2
and not fully upgraded
versed compass
Idk, Vanguard/Guard Tickets exist
wait they do?
i thought its only supporter/defender 
hot rampart
Idk, why not get Flametail/Ines while at it?
ngl going for siege even if free is definitely questionable
versed compass
ngl going for siege even if free is definitely questionable <:kleekicant:1009443...
i mean siege vs fang siege win every day so lol
am actually using siege as a bigger fang with s1 now
now hiring doro instead of yato/texas for mumu might be questionable
hot rampart
now hiring doro instead of yato/texas for mumu might be questionable
the mines are fast redeploys bro
versed compass
me when the big beast in migration walk on fully undeployable pathing
no way doro > FR moment
wanton stratus
I want an Ifrit delta module showcase and I want it now
versed compass
i think it only work with s3
but ak players are button allergic so s2 is the only skill
this might be the one time this dice encounter help me win
27 ingot (i have chalice)
super neat
wanton stratus
I held off on building mod X because a second module would improve her res shred talent which would obviously be better, so I want to know how it measures up
If the damage is bad or if elemental burst is impossible to trigger due to the target dying I might just build mod X instead
versed compass
if you purely using s2 think its too slow
wanton stratus
I use both S2 and S3 like one should
versed compass
it goes with s3 instead for more res shred
but still unsure how fast she proc it
hot rampart
it goes with s3 instead for more res shred
but still unsure how fast she proc it
it sucks actually
versed compass
too low damage to proc ?
hot rampart
theres a 50+ res cutoff where she cant proc it at all in s3 duration
and any lower say like 20-30 which is pretty average
she procs it around the end of the duration
so there very little window where she benefits with both s3 damage and the burn explosion + 20 res decrease
hot rampart
hold on im not sure about it pre or post shred
tardy vigil
Me in IS
versed compass
i asked some maff nerd if you need
ifrit
base 980
mod 70
burn -20 res for 10s
against 0 res
s3 x1.4 per sec 1470 dps, proc burn in 9s, then deal additional 735 per tick -> 36.75k total dmg + 7k elemental burst (elite)
against boss, proc burn in 17s -> 31.6k total + 7k elemental burst
against 50 res -> reduce to 18 res (6 res after burn)
s3 1205 dps, proc burn in 11s -> 32.3k total dmg + 7k elemental burst (elite)
against boss, proc burn after ~22s, need 1 additional attack before or after s3 -> 24k total + 7k elemental burst
against 90 res -> reduce to 42 res (30 res after burn)
s3 852 dps -> proc burn in 15s -> 21.6k total + 7k (elite)
against boss, ifrit cannot proc burn within skill without support/stat buff
note: patriot is a boss with 90 res, but due to his weird self buff mechanic, this does not apply to him
comparison
res modless modX(max distance) modΔ (include elemental burst)
0 1372 1620 2187/1930
50 1125 1328 1965/1550
90 796 940 1430/852 (cannot proc against boss)
(now i remembered bosses need more elem damage so delta can be bad into them)
hot rampart
wait till u see french resistance
versed compass
i already saw that before
hot rampart
i cant tell if this total skill damage is elemental dmg or what
i swear there was another graph that shows cutoff better
oh well
i cant find it 
there is another underlying issue
nobody can unlock new ifrit mod right now and need to wait for lonetrail rerun to go away
cuz the mod stage unlock is lonetrail event stage and currently its at the phase where only shop is left
versed compass
you can actually use it now
but those players cant think
(IS2 deep investigation and roll temp ifrit)
glacial breach
Wait didnt this guy say he quit making AK videos
Or who am I mixing him up with
That one guy with amiya avatar
wanton stratus
ifrit
base 980
mod 70
burn -20 res for 10s
against 0 res
s3 x1.4 per sec 1470 d...
So dps will always be better assuming elemental burst procs
I see
wanton stratus
How is ifrit’s RES reduction calculated under S3 btw? Is it
Initial RES x 0,6 - 10 or
Initial (RES - 10) x 0,6?
versed compass
flat happen first iirc
willow nymph
s2 probably bad idk
not really
as long as you proc elem you'll deal way more damage
it's only better for the case where spider at end of range and need to kill before they reach
versed compass
how fast can she proc it
wanton stratus
That’s what I wanna know
willow nymph
from how fast logos procs it i'd say probably the time she takes to do 2 s2
~
usually
wanton stratus
It’s worse
willow nymph
it's just poo
bleak mirage
Not playing it. Even though I want that flame skin
tardy vigil
- silvergun, yay
- YouTube: kid, wanna see more videos about "low operator"
- videos:
glacial breach
I miss real CC so much
fluid verge
Cc was fun
glacial breach
Can I even win with everything selected lol
glacial breach
Hm
Those fucking last two guys on bot
Kill my shieldguys then just walk through
Gotta reveal their lane before they're blocked then cc them somehow
Fuck you
Hm how I get around this
I dont wanna turn the ines blade left
Ah he does move after a bit
Got it
Rosa bind and ines lane reveal solved it really
Just needed some ops to pewpew the rest
hot rampart
That one guy with amiya avatar
yeah
wanton stratus
Who
wanton stratus
What? Didn’t Yii always have a Sonic Chao as his pfp?
hot rampart
yee
wanton stratus
I can’t think of anyone with an Amiya avatar except for I love Amiya and I don’t think they’re quitting
hot rampart
think memorable part of yii is his amiya fumo
fluid verge
yii hasnt uploaded in 4 months 
granted he left AK to do other videos but the drop in views is quite a bit
glacial breach
Ah yes yii
He wanted to shift to general anime/gacha content
But nobody was interested
As the amiya skits was the only unique part about his content
civic linden
Cmon no need to be that rough
glacial breach
You could tell he lost passion for the hobby
it's hard to do a transition like that when your audience is there for the niche
hallow garnet
this isnt cc
THIS IS NOT CC
THIS IS FUCKINg
POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
omg
yall lied to me
this is poo pretending to be cc
what is this scam
hallow garnet
why tf are they doing this???????
glacial breach
Just even put it on rerun with the same shit
hallow garnet
who asked for this
alr
350 is max
letsgo
yall said invis shit
so im guessin ines SA and whatnot
wanton stratus
Maxing the daily map is a choice
Maxing the permanent map is a requirement
willow nymph
so im guessin ines SA and whatnot
ya just ines and use casters
guard strat is kinda cope
wanton stratus
The only real difference from CC is that you have to select challenge nodes in sequence instead of being able to choose them all individually
And also only 4 maps instead of dailies
Smh my head
quaint arch
No.
hallow garnet
ookay
quaint arch
hallow garnet
do i need to unlock risks and shit?
quaint arch
No
hallow garnet
so better than cc alrdy
quaint arch
No need to unlock it
hallow garnet
is the map bullshit?
like poo was
just tons of hp
and thats it
or is it actual cc
wanton stratus
There are fewer risks than CC making strategies more similar
Plus, the reeds lag my device
quaint arch
Not really, but close
hallow garnet
crystal showroom
fk
this is pooooo
840
oo
more invis
sigh
ines working overtime
yea no
im not doing this
600 is what we have to do?
wanton stratus
I’m pretty sure the invisible flying enemies are nigh unkillable on max risk
hallow garnet
or whats the r18
wanton stratus
Lmao
wanton stratus
or whats the r18
The medal is 600
wanton stratus
Max rewards is 540
hallow garnet
yikes
this tank shit
is tanky
okay
maria cant take it
hoshi it is
guess this is gonna be stall stuff
ah whatever
i'll look it up
im too lazy
fuck
even hoshi dies
aaaa
who has a nian
or maybe just gotta max hoshi mod
vagrant tusk
hallow garnet
Now go get 600 points on the perma map
there
wanton stratus
Did you use a guide
hallow garnet
ofc
tho i actually had most of the pieces down before i went looking for one
since the roster is small
eyja hoshi mlynar typhon was obvious
ines was obvious when i saw the invis
myrtle is myrtle
and mountain ig made sense
i mostly just looked at the placement cause idk how the mobs move
but no shame in using a guide 💅
i'll mald in IS if i wanna mald xd
hoshi mod3 was the key
i dont think i have ever done a high risk cc without a guide. im too dumdum
tho maybe i did the ez one without a guide
the one with the ships and navy men
with quirky eben carry
glacial breach
I could do r22ish perm map and half of the daily maps on max without guiding
But if I started getting stuck Id go to youtube
I mostly dont like hazard maps like this perm map right here
With a bunch of spread out enemies
hallow garnet
i honestly would not need a guide
if we had tools that showed enemy movement
cuz it's more about that for me
rather than what unit to use
that i can adjust for myself
ebon sphinx
fluid verge
why anus
tidal hawk
How to do cc since I don't have Dorothy and Ines to smooth brain it
fluid verge
look up a guide
hot rampart
or is it actual cc
poo is just different coat of paint of CC
the shit thing about first poo is they fucked it up with main map design and risk
i find the dailies much better than older cc system
i take 1 daily per 3 days over 1 daily per day
any day of the week
all risk is also unlocked for u since the start instead of needing to do it like 2-3 times for the further risk unlock whenever there is a new map
tidal hawk
Anyone know the context behind this AK brainrot?
tardy vigil
Anyone know the context behind this AK brainrot?
نشط: يدخل Jax في Evasion ، وهو موقف دفاعي ، لمدة ثانيتين ، مما يتسبب في تفادي جميع الهجمات الأساسية غير البرجية ضده طوال المدة. يحصل Jax أيضًا على تقليل الضرر بنسبة 25٪ ، مما يقلل الضرر من جميع قدرات منطقة التأثير التي يتم الحصول عليها من أبطال البطل. يمكن إعادة صياغة Counter Strike بعد ثانية واحدة ، ويتم ذلك تلقائيًا بعد انتهاء المدة.
RECAST: يلحق Jax ضررًا جسديًا لجميع الأعداء القريبين ، ويزيد بنسبة 20٪ لكل هجوم يتم تفاديه ، وزيادة تصل إلى 100٪ ، ويصعقهم الصاعقة لمدة ثانية واحدة.
tidal hawk
Let me test reading that bald arabic...
Um:
Yadkhul jax fii evasion, wahuwa mawquf(?)... Uhhh
tidal hawk
Oh lol, and here I thought you wrote those yourself
tidal hawk
Fire away
hot rampart
Anyone know the context behind this AK brainrot?
tidal hawk
Yeah I've seen that one too
hot rampart
its just hoederer s3 skill description
if u ask "why is it a meme"
the answer is brainrot
there is no further explanation i just cant explain this phenomenon
ebon sphinx
https://vxtwitter.com/oyuki_gms/status/1798336032666165737?t=2IAre0zAZXNJ9SUu-gSEFw&s=19 nanomachines son
tardy vigil
I need like half an hour at least
versed compass
10/10 epic battle
tardy vigil
The heck is discord message symbol limit? I need to structure it in 4 parts
hot rampart
there is no further explanation i just cant explain this phenomenon
also part of it is probably becuz of ulpian release and he just looks better than hoederer + theres AH team to carry his ass
tidal hawk
The heck is discord message symbol limit? I need to structure it in 4 parts
Wth 4 parts???
ebon sphinx
tardy vigil
Anyone know the context behind this AK brainrot?
- It is from league of legends Reddit
- there is a champ called draven, he is a sigma asshole and egoistic self-praising prick, with selfish kit. He needs to kill enemy champions for passive, not assists.
- reddit draven mains are edgelords (not everyone, but it's reddit, the rest are trolls)
- they had a long conflict with 'e-girl' champ mains - cute support girls who deal damage and sometimes steal kills
- also draven mains are homophobic, in contrast to inclusive cute girls mains
- once draven mains were compared to Muslim radicals because of them hating cute dressed women and gays
- draven mains run with the joke, because it genuinely fits the narrative and is funny
- draven mains create whole lists of champions: Haram egirls/twink femboys vs halal allies in jihad (crusade) against infidels (edgelord favorites are a majority)
- Jax is one of the oldest edgelord favorite champions - easy halal. Declared by reddit one of the best draven friends
- Jax E is an iconic abilitiy. It is loaded, champion defining and game defining. Jax entire kit is in it, causes a lot of butthurt from opponents
- "Jax enters evasion" becomes a meme
- "muslim" draven mains translate Jax E into arabic, reciting it as prayers with clips of Jax E completely crushing infidels. It becomes a long running meme as Jax E continues to cause butthurt
- Another halal champion - Nautilus. His kit works perfectly with draven. Nautilus is a mighty sea monster (tank) with an anchor, hooking enemies.
Now finally to the ulpianus: his concept is same as nautilus, he is an obvious gigachad halal, and this is an overpowered ability that does a lot of things. A worthy successor to "Jax enters evasion" Arabic copypasta.
tardy vigil
Wth 4 parts???
Nvm I managed to fit in one message
tidal hawk
I never thought I would see LoL mentioned in this channel
Then again My Hero Academia main villain plays it
tidal hawk
I didn't know it would lead to League lol
tidal hawk
Their cultural references spread
Even more than Dota...
hot rampart
- It is from league of legends Reddit
- there is a champ called draven, he is a ...
this is really funny
tardy vigil
It is
hot rampart
so draven = hoederer in this case?
tidal hawk
All of them looks so... Wild
versed compass
lol is more known for their anime looking chars
tardy vigil
versed compass
but they have some monsters and ugly people in there
tardy vigil
lol is more known for their anime looking chars
Egirls take the pop stage
tardy vigil
Marci is 100% anime
versed compass
yes thats my point
tardy vigil
Straight from avatar or smth
versed compass
dota have mostly monsteries and few anime
marci is pretty much the peak (anime char) of dota
hot rampart
dota only has dota cuz valve golden child is steam not dota
tardy vigil
And not some Disney garbage with 5.9/10 that lives only because of controversy
tardy vigil
dota only has dota cuz valve golden child is steam not dota
Dota has an anime
hot rampart
riot meanwhile only have lol and they treat it's spin off well cuz they cant fallback to just LoL
versed compass
dragon blood or whatever its called
tardy vigil
and they had a card game for 2 weeks
hot rampart
Dota has an anime<:kleekicant:1009443853020971049>
i mean quality wise of lol spinoff vs dota spin off
stuff
tidal hawk
And not some Disney garbage with 5.9/10 that lives only because of controversy
What are you referring to?
versed compass
artifact vs lol card game
hot rampart
ie : arcane vs what dota anime
versed compass
artifact was such a cool card game
if only fucking valve know how to run a card game
tardy vigil
What are you referring to?
Just generalized shitty cartoons, all I hear about from Disney is some controversy and rants
hot rampart
ouh yeah had that conversation here and satisfied with the answers why valve sucked at it
tardy vigil
artifact was such a cool card game
Yes!
tardy vigil
hired an mtg designer from the 90s
He could been useful, if managers let him only do in-game mechanics
versed compass
how do you try to run a super complicated card game while putting it behind pay walls
hot rampart
mtg designer caused that yeah
tardy vigil
how do you try to run a super complicated card game while putting it behind pay ...
Every real life card game does it
But not digital
versed compass
i legit only know 2 real life card games and both are of fan favorite shows
tardy vigil
pretty sure main reason is the pricing of stuff
Main problem was they fucking gave up 2 days after release
Like, problem this problem that
You could always find some solutions and rebuild. Or you can give up
tardy vigil
They wanted 1$ million tournament announced before release
So mega expectations from executives
tardy vigil
honestly mechanics are pretty cool
And they spent 2 years reworking it, thinking mechanics were the problem
No, they were not
You don't need a team working for 2 years to rework monetization/collection
tidal hawk
What are we talking about?
hot rampart
artifact the card game by valve
versed compass
ebon sphinx
when it comes to Draven, his ego, kit thats oriented around bullying and killing early alongside a passive talent that uh, only grants him bonus gold if hes the one who gets the kill, not assists...well, you can see why Draven mains are stereotypically toxic 
hot rampart
the loud toxic
in contrast to AM players in dota which are selfish silent toxic who thinks they are a silent anime protagonist that have the grindset (hitting creeps all day long for 40 minutes)
ebon sphinx
lets say if an AM farms for 40 mins, they are bad at farming
i usually start surprise ganking hard as soon as i get manta
or split push or just jumping on enemy
manta is the power spike for AM
hot rampart
thats part of the stereotype of doing everything by himself ala anime protagonist
still an optimal play but its just how this character is played
ebon sphinx
eh yeah, i often dont like picking AM unless he hard counters the enemy comp because its inherently selfish and you will feel powerless if your team is falling behind
i prefer Spectre in that scenario because Spectre can be built to fight early and can pop up in any fight at any moment
hot rampart
ebon sphinx
wonder if theres a Yato version...because Yato's VA's character is the one featured in that particular segment of the song
hot rampart
wonder if theres a Yato version...because Yato's VA's character is the one featu...
no sound tho (not a problem)
ebon sphinx
ebon sphinx
dont you love how Skadi is consistently depicted with droopy eyes
contrary to her skadumb depictions, the event hilariously reveals that ||shes the best mechanist/technician in Aegir||
hot rampart
its already mentioned in is3 monthly but yeah
its easy to forget even for someone who read it
tardy vigil
genderbent pozy
willow nymph
Click responsably first and only pick things that dont affect what you were gonna do
Clear that way then see what risks can be added based on your clear
tardy vigil
I even know why I get oneshot
willow nymph
Just dont get hit for the daily
tardy vigil
Clear that way then see what risks can be added based on your clear
I thought I need to click buffs until quest marker
tardy vigil
Just dont get hit for the daily
Just...
willow nymph
No buffs are specific combos
tardy vigil
2 lanes of invisible slashers
1 lane with mages
willow nymph
Keep the shieldguards top use ranged dps to kill the archers and full buff them
For invis slashers buff their atk like mad and borrow a stealth revealer like ines sa scene ely
Then you just need to burst them
For the caster lane either go invis or outrange
tardy vigil
I have Ines and Horn
Shame that horn don't do shit
And Ines covers one lane, unless I redeploy her and keep in second lane
willow nymph
Horn doesnt quite work for here can use her to cover top archer damage if anything
Ines covers 2 lane if you put her facing up near blue box
On the caster lane
quaint arch
Keep the shieldguards top use ranged dps to kill the archers and full buff them
...
||I kept the Shieldguards at the Bottom||
tardy vigil
willow nymph
Then you can just use dps there and only have to deal with casters safely
quaint arch
Cuz Assassin's Stealth attack is too big
tardy vigil
Ines will die to casters
quaint arch
tardy vigil
So no root on stealth bitches, so need to be one tapped
willow nymph
||I kept the Shieldguards at the Bottom||
I mean can do that just saying it's easier with them top because then you can just put ops on the middle ranged tiles
quaint arch
(Oh wait... I'm just doing missions, not Max Risk)
willow nymph
Ines will die to casters
Kill them before they aint gonna die at the blue box
Pick them off with doro borrow or whatever you have that can safely and easily deal with it
There's a fair amount of options
willow nymph
S1/2 because risks make them have 100 res
Can also have typhon helping
The lane
Thanks besieger range
civic linden
This event is suposed to be the high end content and most of it's fun is the challenge itself
tardy vigil
dorothy is good
but isnt enough
only 4 tiles are there to contest them, and maybe I simply lack the damage
hot rampart
https://youtu.be/aL3yUi1AkV4?feature=shared
i like when he suddenly talk about hating fish
tardy vigil
Thanks for advice guys, I have beaten this game mode and can never open this page anymore
wanton stratus
Good job
tardy vigil
Well, in some random banner
tardy vigil
best bet is just buying the ticket for her
She is in kernel?
hot rampart
uh i dont mean kernel
tardy vigil
Then how
tardy vigil
She is in standard pool right?
tardy vigil
So she will be in some random standard banner
hot rampart
yeh
tardy vigil
I'm not sure if she's worth 30$
civic linden
You could save gold certs for her too
hot rampart
here is a prediction if u plan to buy her with gold cert ticket
april 2025
she may rerun on some standard banners but not as a shop operator*
earlier
hot rampart
she may rerun on some standard banners but not as a shop operator*
but this is harder to predict and likely be random?
tardy vigil
But if I do but it doro is top contender
There is no shop ticket rn
With "micro"transaction
I bought the last one when it dropped
hot rampart
versed compass
in contrast to AM players in dota which are selfish silent toxic who thinks they...
my brothers play with the opposite
AM mains who fight with battle fury only
hot rampart
is he griefing then
versed compass
he used to play mid but since this patch and kunka getting kinda nothing he started to play carry WK
so now he suffer from mid pucks that are super passive
hot rampart
i havent playing dota this year
cool recent patch tho but i promised myself a 1 year rehab from dota in 2024
tardy vigil
Why do 1 year rehab, when you can just never play it again ever
hot rampart
its complicated
tardy vigil
I wish lol had as good patches as dota
hot rampart
yeah stopping lol permanently sounds easier
dota is
sometimes they drop insane patch shit from time to time and u feel like trying again
so its never "never"
tardy vigil
I joined in 2020, and over 4 years biggest change was adding MYTHICAL items. And removing them.
Oh they also nerfed jg exp, it completely changed the map. Junglers now lag in levels, a totally different game with different wincons! And then buffed it back.
Oh, also moved rocks around and map is finally symmetrical
tardy vigil
sometimes they drop insane patch shit from time to time and u feel like trying a...
I don't see why this is relevant
None of the patches fix any issues that are worth dropping dota over
hot rampart
i dont seem to get what u mean
tardy vigil
People usually drop mobas not because of lack of shiny new things. They drop the game because of toxicity, everyone expecting something from others on your team and snowball 5v5 nature
hot rampart
i when i said dota drops insane patch i mean dota gets an insane patch
then me who probably on break from dota or something
will wanna try it again
tardy vigil
But why are you on break with dota?
hot rampart
im getting older
theres other stuff i wanna play or do
dota is very time consuming
if i have fun or not after the match
i always get a headache from a prolonged play
hot rampart
i just feel like playing dota is much more mentally exhausting too
tardy vigil
And I'm 23
hot rampart
whats the average time of a match in lol
dota average match time is 45 minutes++ and i have to keep my brain active all the time in all those minutes
tardy vigil
Idk about average, it changes depending on rank
But like 24-25 min
Nvm 25 is challenger, in lower ranks average goes up to 30 in iron
hot rampart
quite short
versed compass
dota average is depend on mmr
normal mmr is like 35~ mins
low is like 60~180 mins
oh dota just got another mini patch
2 mini patches in 2 weeks
tardy vigil
normal mmr is like 35~ mins
low is like 60~180 mins
This is exactly why I initially chose lol over dota
Dota is much more popular in Russia, so everything was stacked against lol
But I thought games are fundamentally the exact same shit, but lol is shorter
vagrant tusk
oh dota just got another mini patch
2 mini patches in 2 weeks <:kleekicant:1009...
Good that they addressed the Sand King being too strong
Dota is about 20 - 30 mins per game cos I play turbo
tardy vigil
Lol got 2v2v2v2
And is getting another casual mode soon (bullet heaven)
People asked for meme modes and devs legit sent half the staff working on them
hot rampart
Lol got 2v2v2v2<:Naruhodo:965434974683668480>
dota has this too
its in a section called "Arcade" aka custom game modes
tardy vigil
Dota has an entire workshop
hot rampart
People asked for meme modes and devs legit sent half the staff working on them
community do it for free
tardy vigil
Lol's 2v2v2v2 is developed and maintained by devs, aka people with actual game design knowledge
hot rampart
the only dev balancer that i have respect in is only and only icefraud himself
tardy vigil
Either way I don't play them so
hot rampart
Dota arcades are not balanced and get little updates
what kinda frequency are we talking here
hot rampart
i can assure u the "big" custom games aka the only that matter is also consistent
tardy vigil
Content updates get shipped every 2 months? I really don't track them
tardy vigil
i can assure u the "big" custom games aka the only that matter is also consisten...
Yea it's an upside to dota
tardy vigil
It happens on same patch, every 2 weeks on Wednesday
hot rampart
so a champion that is nerfed in the main game
will be the same in the 2v2v2v2 mode
?
nerfed/buffed/balanced
i wouldnt count that as 2v2v2v2v2 being balanced if thats the case
tardy vigil
They give balancing modifiers to them like +5% dmg dealt -10% dmg taken -20% cooldown reduction
hot rampart
more like they are getting the sloppy seconds
tardy vigil
so a champion that is nerfed in the main game
But you get to play the same champion in arcades, no dissonance
hot rampart
They give balancing modifiers to them like +5% dmg dealt -10% dmg taken -20% coo...
so this is a seperate thing than the main 5v5 mode ?
tardy vigil
so this is a seperate thing than the main 5v5 mode ?
Yes
hot rampart
But you get to play the same champion in arcades, no dissonance <:Naruhodo:96543...
this is a subjective thing but theres not really that much dissonance in the dota arcade version of 2v2v2v2v2
hot rampart
i know
tardy vigil
That could never handle workshop
hot rampart
thats not the thing we are discussing here
tardy vigil
And it is bad imo they dedicate paid devs to arcades
The game itself gets less content
But their "content" or "updates" are ass half the time so not big loss
The game is still infinitely complex and 15 min shorter then dota on average
hot rampart
i dont see how this is a plus side for lol but ok
tardy vigil
Well, 15-40min shorter
hot rampart
great
tardy vigil
Dota is better if you like new shit
hot rampart
not really
tardy vigil
I like games to end
hot rampart
they get stale too
but yeah i see what u mean by shorter
dota has a turbo mode now too actually counter this argument tho
tardy vigil
Also lol has great objective cadence
hot rampart
tardy vigil
I don't "just farm to farm"
hot rampart
u speak like someone who never touch dota
tardy vigil
I need to time my recalls and each second counts to be strong for next thing on the map
hot rampart
as if that isnt a thing for dota
tardy vigil
u speak like someone who never touch dota
What are objectives on dota map in first 10 minutes?
Minions, neutral creeps, runes and wards
hot rampart
execution in laning phase
tardy vigil
Sure mate
hot rampart
- what u just said
tardy vigil
I know you play lane
tardy vigil
But in lol you play lane AND need to contest 5 objectives in 15 minutes
hot rampart
how can u say this with a straight face
dota have that too
rune control
helping mid
tardy vigil
yeah lane is a real thing and u cant **deny** it
I can deny minions in lol btw, it's called freeze
tardy vigil
helping mid
Bruh
hot rampart
flower petals
tardy vigil
Runes worth jack shit
tardy vigil
Herold kills 1.5 towers
tardy vigil
Drakes give op soul
hot rampart
whatever u talking about is simply the very fact that lol just compress and simplified what dota does to a mere 15 minute
tardy vigil
hot rampart
dota have that for longer with multiple phases and execution
thats not the only rune to exist btw
power rune
wisdom rune
tardy vigil
I know
hot rampart
good
tardy vigil
dota have that for longer with multiple phases and execution
Yea, you play lane for 20 minutes with occasional roams
I roam in lol too
hot rampart
im gonna say alot of objectives
just from fcking laning phase the 1st 10 minute of dota
tardy vigil
im gonna say alot of objectives
just from fcking laning phase the 1st 10 minut...
You speak like a person who never played lol
There are things to focus on and then there are game ending global objectives
hot rampart
laning phase :
creep aggro
creep pulling
contesting water petals
maintaining creep equilibrium (u can call this freezing but in dota its much harder to do this)
trading with enemy heroes efficiently
knowing what ur capabilities are
u cant just spam ur skills out of cd becuz mana is an important and scare resource
tardy vigil
Ofc it is harder with creep denial and asymetrical lanes
hot rampart
You speak like a person who never played lol
i did that's the thing
tardy vigil
When
hot rampart
years ago
tardy vigil
Sure, game changed
hot rampart
i dont play much cuz it doesnt stick
tardy vigil
Just like dota changed from 2017 when I played it
tardy vigil
whatever u talking about is simply the very fact that lol just compress and simp...
Yes, laning phase ends in lol much earlier
This is exactly why I didn't stick with dota
hot rampart
i dont play much cuz it doesnt stick
its just shorter version of dota with less in depth mechanics
albeit main issue to me is just the fact that i have to grind to unlock more heroes
tardy vigil
its just shorter version of dota with less in depth mechanics
albeit main issu...
In lol people focus on learning a few champions for hundreds of games
I play 3 at the moment
hot rampart
understandable
this is just my personal thing as i like to try a lot of things but not master them
tardy vigil
You reach much much higher mastery and knowing the limits over hundreds of games
hot rampart
i know
tardy vigil
this is just my personal thing as i like to try a lot of things but not master t...
Yea that's why I don't care about few new things in lol
And dota is much better for you
hot rampart
yeah i think thats the conclusion of it
tardy vigil
Lol have much less items effects
tardy vigil
yeah i think thats the conclusion of it
Mobas are toxic don't play them
hot rampart
dota is more in depth with a lot more variables on a longer timespan
lol is better for casuals
i regret getting too deep into dota i know
tardy vigil
dota is more in depth with a lot more variables on a longer timespan
lol is bet...
Lol has a thriving competitive scene
hot rampart
i know
hot rampart
better for casuals
i dont see anything wrong with being better for casuals
is why lol is more popular
tardy vigil
How it was harder for computers to beat then chess
Despite having only 2 pieces - white rock and black rock
hot rampart
and i can say the same thing to its competitive skin
its much simpler to watch and digest unlike dota
tardy vigil
Fuck no
hot rampart
fuck yes if i compare it to dota
tardy vigil
Lol has much shorter average time to kill
You need to know everything and anticipate everything to watch pro fights
Otherwise you blink and it's over
tardy vigil
Dota is easier to watch if you don't understand half the shit
You get to enjoy the moment
Black hole 🍿
tardy vigil
u think dota being slower is more digestible? hell the fuck no too
Just as warcraft 3 is easier to watch then sc2
hot rampart
Black hole 🍿
i can see that but that only specific to "big ultimates"
tardy vigil
Bloodseeker silence
What is it
Giant silence on whole screen
That casts over 4 seconds or smth
hot rampart
dota has better sounds and sfx designs i agree
tardy vigil
Lol fights are more condensed
Because no op defensive items like bkb tarrasque hex
Only damage
Or personal armor for tanks
hot rampart
but an overall watch of lol is simply better for casuals for the fact that
"X is fighting Y" "some skills happen" "X kills Y"
understanding these is pointless as u dont need to care about that when everything goes jumpy blinky
its fast and the end result is what matter
someone fought and someone died
hot rampart
yes and the fight is very simple to watch for someone with no or a bit prior knowledge of lol
hot rampart
dota has better glance value but its very fucking chaotic
u wouldn't know what spell is friend to friend or foe to foe
tardy vigil
Lol fights are just a mess of colors - then someone wins and someone runs away
tardy vigil
dota has better glance value but its very fucking chaotic
u wouldn't know what s...
But I see carry killing everyone one by one
Bam bam bam
Maybe we appreciate different things
hot rampart
maybe
hot rampart
stats stick less choices
tardy vigil
They seem like a great endgame content to me
hot rampart
1st poo suffered the shit 1st impression
tardy vigil
And current one?
hot rampart
u know when u have bad 1st impression of something it really fucking reeks
tardy vigil
Or dos
hot rampart
its hard to salvage that
dos suffered from statstick for no reason
it takes 1/2 bad apple : the A and S stage to poralize people view of it
hot rampart
the big shielder dude that spawns in A stage is a bitch
not only he has high def (average big shielder enemy)
but it also that forsaken enemy coming from ch9 with jacked up res just as an ability
hot rampart
thats great for u
now unto the boss
does too many shits and he somewhat suddenly wipes ur whole team
tardy vigil
Just bring operators that "press button kill everyone"
And think how they work
To optimize
hot rampart
not everyone have access to that
and as much as players like click button kill everyone
they dont like that if enemy does it to them
tardy vigil
Smh denying endgame
hot rampart
stats jacked up from the get go also means that lower rarity will have a hard time to do it
tardy vigil
not everyone have access to that
and as much as players like click button kill ...
Veterans with stacked roster still hate them
hot rampart
and using buff the game give to u for some reason lowers ur score gain?
its like a reverse CC but horribly executed
tardy vigil
Yea "here are buffs, pls ignore them" is a weird design
hot rampart
Veterans with stacked roster still hate them
veterans mald at S stage
that stage is pure bullshit im being honest
stats jacked up as per usual
but specific operators are very vital to clear this stage
mainly someone named ceobe
glacial breach
hot rampart
u could say veterans exist yeah but not all of them have the liberty to have exodia (main big body is ceobe)
strats are also VERY VERY STRICTED
physical damage dealer fucking sucks at killing the boss
so u entirely rely on arts dmg to kill the boss
and it really2 needs good arts dmg not some clanky ones
(u really2 need ceobe specifically for this boss)
idk how u kill boss without ceobe but 2nd best arts dealer is someone named qb and she wouldnt deal as much as ceobe alone to "open up more strats"
restricting the creativity of an arknights player freedom to clear a stage is a very bad thing to the playerbase
willow nymph
does too many shits and he somewhat suddenly wipes ur whole team
his abilities are way more interactive and cool than bosses like manfred
and as a boss is way better
hot rampart
manfred is a manfraud
the only annoying thing about him is not about him
it just artillery cannon and hell stage specifically with him buffing enemies in the map with some dots aura
ebon sphinx
argh i keep forgetting to do the AK web event dailies since i keep falling asleep
wageslaving does that
tardy vigil
AK web event?
ebon sphinx
AK web event?
yeeep, you get some goodies and a free Ifrit skin
http s://rhodesislandvacation.arknights.global/
also you get to see all the postcards people make from all over the world
hot rampart
legally distinct ifrit rhodes island kitchen skin
ebon sphinx
i do note its a bit high effort
...on the other hand its relatively easy for me to pay a visit to a KFC near here if it was a KFC collab instead
but i kind of understand that KFC might not be ubiquitous in some areas
tardy vigil
Yep, that's me, 0 KFC anywhere
hot rampart
paying license for it is seperate for each countries' kfc too
tardy vigil
I mean we can them, just due to circumstances they have legally changed the name and pretend to be smth else
tardy vigil
paying license for it is seperate for each countries' kfc too
Yea a lot of companies operate them in different countries
Funnily enough HSR did make local food collabs
With different pizza brands doing it in Indonesia, Germany and Russia
hot rampart
they have infinite money to throw
well not infinite
but like
10 or 20 times more than AK global profit
ebon sphinx
when i last went to America, KFCs arent as...insanely common
never ordered them due to how far they were
ebon sphinx
tardy vigil
https://vxtwitter.com/KazuLovesW/status/1798943211077210379?t=-JILy7F1ewTNZSxH3D...
They keep soldiers in our army busy and with lack of sleep so they do less bad things
Kal'tsit is an officer confirmed
tardy vigil
Officers don't get enough sleep in decades
hot rampart
i recognize this one
lagged the fuck out of my phone
once the ice towers are popping up
tardy vigil
Saga looks cool
Levitating enemies around
A real shame I'm too busy raising some "meta"
hot rampart
erm what the sigma
tardy vigil
its irene (they both are on current banner)
sorry, I had a 3 hour lecture at work and my brains are fried
hot rampart
that one kill enemies instead of levitating them
tardy vigil
Yea but
tardy vigil
Cool units, have to skip
vagrant tusk
Next banner
2 more weeks 
hot rampart
The one that has iframes AND disarm
i like how theres no mention of pulling cuz its so insignificant but somehow its there
vagrant tusk
https://i.redd.it/k8ioytu87o5c1.jpg
Smol tail
hot rampart
daddy
wanton stratus
Not the Ceobe again
Ffs
Of course that’s it
Gotta figure how to deal with right lane and the flying fucks
willow nymph
Ines ines
vagrant tusk
I use Ines Mlynar to hold both Hover in place n slash them
wanton stratus
I guess we aren’t using the same risks then because my Młynar did fuck all to the rovers
glacial breach
https://i.redd.it/k8ioytu87o5c1.jpg
Smol tail
When is military mommy
vagrant tusk
When is military mommy
in 2 weeks
strong rampart
willow nymph
Degen you kinda need trash taste to like 
Like her fit is just terrible
e1 is fine but bruh e2 that orange shirt is 💀
hot rampart
?
i dont see anything wrong with it
this was pointed out by silvergun too in his 6* afk tierlist video but i just cant see how its bad
civic linden
I think the dark green of her jacket and orange of her shirt combine very well
(Opinion of someone that uses sweatpants outside)
willow nymph
as expected from a fashion criminal
violet vortex
I like it
hot rampart
idk but fashion but this unlogical color combination supposedly against fashion
or something?
its like something out of jojo idk
violet vortex
Fashion industry consists of the ugliest shit I’ve ever laid my eyes on
It’s a scam for rich people to buy exotic brand shit to be different
Either way doesn’t matter, the opinion of others on a character’s appearance couldn’t possibly be any less valuable
willow nymph
Fashion industry consists of the ugliest shit I’ve ever laid my eyes on
there's fashion and high fashion tho?
what you're talking about is the shit no one follows up on
people follow on the good parts and that's fashion
hot rampart
i still do not see how this applies to degen orange-yellow shirt
wanton stratus
She just got the Garfield merch shirt on
hot rampart
when it goes well with her blonde hair color accent
tardy vigil
There are many orange elements in her outfit
willow nymph
too many 
tardy vigil
It is a complete composition
willow nymph
and all the colors are drab
violet vortex
You mean the stuff that costs $5 for normal people that they priced up to $500
willow nymph
even if it's to give a military look
hot rampart
it seems to contrast with the military jacket and put focus on her boobs i mean body
violet vortex
Anyone who follows up on fashion is already low bar
tardy vigil
and all the colors are drab
Idk what that means
violet vortex
The same people who switch tastes like shirts
tardy vigil
High heels kill military look to me every day
violet vortex
These are the people buying preripped clothes & purses 20x more expensive because they killed a more exotic animal for the material
violet vortex
Heels look bad on any character in a fighting setting
willow nymph
because they got those ugly ball deformations
tardy vigil
She looks like a kill bill character to me
violet vortex
There is virtually no character in the game that should have them on
tardy vigil
Some office lady who took up a sword
tardy vigil
There is virtually no character in the game that should have them on
It's ok if they didn't intend to fight
violet vortex
Looks good to me
willow nymph
doesn't cut either way
violet vortex
I’m not a big fan of orange usually but it fits her color scheme enough
tardy vigil
Heels on Lin look ok - because she gives the impression of a politician/mage who came to negotiate, and just happen to draw her sword
But her heels aren't thin
willow nymph
if you want to make a cool looking sword you can make it
ebon sphinx
shes a mafia princess so
willow nymph
just need to be able to fucking cut
tardy vigil
if you want to make a cool looking sword you can make it
I don't like this one
willow nymph
also lin isn't a melee operator
ebon sphinx
But her heels aren't thin
speaking of heels, the Ch'en chinese dress skin actually acknowledges that fighting in heels isnt exactly comfy since one of her idle animations is adjusting her heels out of discomfort
willow nymph
lin doesn't do dance moves while killing 69 enemies with her sword
she can have heels
violet vortex
After applying realism to anime I’ve found that there exists almost no operators
This is a tragic discovery
tardy vigil
lin doesn't do dance moves while killing 69 enemies with her sword
I don't see why this is relevant, when I only gave an example of someone who heels look ok on
violet vortex
Including but not limited to anyone who wields a big sword