Time to try harder then
#Arknights
tired sky
missed out on sub 1 hour r18 because i took an anti inflamattory before my daily afternoon nap and that shit knocks you out
slept 4 hours instead of the usual 1:30~
but it is done and now i can slacc
fluid verge
something something issue
tired sky
really? you can afk this one pretty easily
tired sky
|| mountain, saria, hoshiguma, skalter, blaze, shining, dp generator ||
literally the most braindead afk setup
wanton stratus
I’m not very good at this game
tired sky
its pretty funny because 3 of the REALLY good operators for this are OG 6 stars and 2 of them fell out of favor with players due to meta shifting to arts damage more than physical
but the hateful avenger is full on physical
so the people without those 2 raised dont have the best tank or healer for him
glacial breach
Zero original thought
Bonk n pull
I should raise my own ebonholtz hes quite handy
Whats his best module?
Guessing the first one, aspeed doesnt seem good
tired sky
both are w/e and so far he didnt need either really
he'll blow up almost anything regardless
but yeah if you have to go for one the first
hallow garnet
Guessing the first one, aspeed doesnt seem good
first one if you wanna lean into his niche, second one if you want him to be a worse eyja s2. go first one. hes great at his niche, no need to try and force him into something hes not
wanton stratus
bleak mirage
No prob bro
wanton stratus
wanton stratus
When are you leaving?
bleak mirage
Sometime october. Haven’t been told details yet
I’ll most likely know after this week
But if she can come soon so I can scoop. No complaints from me
wanton stratus
At the earliest she’ll drop on the 15th
If there are no dead days
I hope you’ll be able to get her
ebon sphinx
AoE Guard hm
...wait
is that Crusher
they just dropped Dorothy and Fia skin like that
tired gulch
Yes
hot rampart
is that Crusher
yeah its crusher 💀
hot rampart
||3rd Mods???||
?
ebon sphinx
Rhine Lab members and random Doktah bottom right
fluid verge
is that a whisperrain skin?
hot rampart
yes
fluid verge
lord all mighty it is 💯
hot rampart
a blessing from the lords
forgive me god but this dorothy and whisperain skins fills my mind with sinful thoughts
tired gulch
The first THIRD Module
fluid verge
forgive me god but this dorothy and whisperain skins fills my mind with sinful t...
damn they work fast
Yo is fia basically wearing the gunk ight armor?
There's a gun knight in the background
He looks so happy clapping
No wait that's 2 thumbs up lol
hot rampart
yeah its 2 thumbs up
tired gulch
Her dad
hot rampart
i never raised whisperain
but that skin is making me act unwise
so unwise to waste 18 op skin
or maybe 15
time will tell
ebon sphinx
👍 🧓 👍
hot rampart
mumu, silence, ifrit, maybe doktah
ebon sphinx
From top left clockwise, Mumu, Silence, Ifrit and....Doktah
fluid verge
whats the crazy part?
ebon sphinx
thats one year ago
young void
mans had the skin prepared for over a year
and translating it into AK officially is so cool
ebon sphinx
hmm wait, i see, thats the actual artist
oh right, bottom right might actually be Ptilopsis
its..hard to tell just from silhouette for me
hot rampart
holy shit is that one of the worst top 5 operator from the hip AK youtuber supah vid
sharp tartan
shes still solid st healer
but well
st healer
mfw i used kaltsit more as healer because she has bigger range
wanton stratus
Oh no, not the Z module…
That means no module is safe to raise anymore, even if both X and Y for a given operator is out
Because there could always be a Z
Fml
young void
Just get them all clearly 
quaint arch
Speaking of which
I just ran out of Module Blocks now
Till I open the IS#3 Module Packs
versed compass
module blocks more like road blocks
honestly would be fixed if SSS was actually useful and gave module blocks
tribal thicket
hot rampart
versed compass
sss will cost sanity and u can no life module block farm it
i will take it
better then being a worthless clear and forget
versed compass
suzuran : collecting skins
eben : collecting modules
skadi (soon) : collecting alters
versed compass
just gonna rarity abuse the dailies 
hot rampart
i saw dorothy + yato only clear
versed compass
theres 2 conflicted tags
both tier 3
one make them have global range (the one needed for quest)
the other make them have no cd on skill or something
hot rampart
naruhodo
hot rampart
that sounds so cap
versed compass
someone translate this
hot rampart
Ebenholz
Trait: Deals Withering damage equal to 8% ATK upon dealing arts damage
Talent: ATK bonus to enemies that are by themselves is increased. If Ebenholz targets an enemy that is current suffering the effects of withering bar popping, deals additional elemental damage equal to a % of ATK
eben has necrosis now but wtf is this
quaint arch
Le Wacky Ahh Effect
They don't want to do Straight up Better Mod than the other 2, so they just winged this one up
hot rampart
yeah cuz it can invite some nagging problems if it was just better
"omg his 3rd module is WAY better than the 2 before we feel scammed for already raising the 2 mods with clearly limited amount of module mats 😡"
now that its fucking goofy ah necrosis people will be like oh thank god its still bad
only like 5 eben simps will be pissed off with him still being bad
or something
altho honestly if they simp him that hard they probably already make peace about the fact that eben is meh
versed compass
it actually possible he get a niche now
if he can proc that fast enough
he will be a 6* mousse
hot rampart
ebensweep
quaint arch
if he can proc that fast enough
Nah... It won't
hot rampart
maybe his s2 can help trigger it
quaint arch
1,400 (Max ATK Pre-Mod) * 8% = 112 Elemental Build-Up
quaint arch
maybe his s2 can help trigger it <:pepegascience:912543041842196480>
We'll see bout that
quaint arch
1,400 (Max ATK Pre-Mod) * 8% = 112 Elemental Build-Up
You'll need 1,000 Elemental Build-Up (2,000 for Bosses) to proc it.
hot rampart
1,400 (Max ATK Pre-Mod) * 8% = 112 Elemental Build-Up
3 charge and 5/6 attacks more to try triggering necrosis
double this for bosses
damn doesnt look that good on paper already
versed compass
knight cleared now to go for skadi
quaint arch
3+1 Charges and 1 Attack
1,400 + 65% = 2,310 ATK
Talent: 135% * 1.4 = 189%
(3+1) x 2,310 x 189% + 2,310
= 17,463.6 + 2,310
= 19,773.6
19,773.6 * 8% = 1,581.888 Elemental Buildup
hot rampart
sv players cant math
ak players cant read
negative and negative and u get a positive : yuwen
altho i cant read and math
quaint arch
I may not be able to read, but i can math
Just don't expect me to find lethal.
hot rampart
versed compass
altho i cant read and math
same
he is an anomaly
wanton stratus
Oh, you're one of two who uses my Ebenholz yesterday?
Yup
Waow, how unexpected. I usually don’t get many support unit uses during CC
hallow garnet
only like 5 eben simps will be pissed off with him still being bad
hes not baaaad
hes just very elite
hot rampart
he is mid my bad
quaint arch
Yes
Last CC
Just like Clock
0 to 12
There's something called Pinch-Out Operation in the future
Something something successor to CC
But you'll need to wait to see it for yourself
What is it, Ben?
wanton stratus
Nothing, my bad
quaint arch
I saw you're trying to type something
wanton stratus
Accidentally typed a dot
quaint arch
Smh
wanton stratus
quaint arch
Anyways, i'm gonna play some Blocky Sandbox game
wanton stratus
Build a dirt house
hallow garnet
what a nostalgic cc
the enemies seem so cookie cutter
no bullshit mechanics at all
tired sky
yeah its meant to be a throwback to 0
with the only surprise being that the red weeb spent his time studying the blade even more
wanton stratus
its pretty funny because 3 of the REALLY good operators for this are OG 6 stars ...
I forgot to ask but who were you referring to? I’m assuming one of them is shining
tired sky
shining, saria, hoshiguma
saria is the only one who remained generally good when the meta sh ifted to arts damage since her heal is that good
shining fell out of favor due to nightingale dealing with arts better
tired sky
and hoshiguma is mostly anti physical, she didnt fall out of favor as hard as shining since theres been cases where shes good but you'll see horn/mudrock/saria more
hoshi very very good against those sniper enemies tho
deploy her last, watch them killing themselves
versed compass
yeah its meant to be a throwback to 0
throw back to beta*
wanton stratus
Penance was even better for that
versed compass
0 is the fire tiles garbo
wanton stratus
When I borrowed her
wanton stratus
Yeah true
versed compass
saria have become pretty whatever honestly
versed compass
i mean a lot of old shit is pretty solid and safe to use
i still use shining often and she pretty solid
she actually better then lumen in most cases
and iirc her module make her even heal better then lumen in afk set up
tired sky
yes but you raised her when she was previously good, my point was that newer players arent raising those because generally speaking, there are more important targets for their resources
why raise shining when everything nukes you with arts, better just raise nightingale
for example
versed compass
non of the defensive ops are good prio for newer players lol
like even saria stays e1 for most part
dps take prio is nothing new
but once you done with the big prio dps you will go for medics/defneders
tired sky
even when talking about the defensive shining takes a backseat to others
skalter, nightingale, one of the status effect reducers/healers are all prio over her
imo
versed compass
will yes skalter/ng take prio
but those take prio over saria too imo
tho skalter probably wont be in any new player rostar
and she is not worth a 300 pulls spark atm
so proabbly wont be an option
tired sky
whatever, this is my biggest issue with arknights tho
it takes too much to get any OP ready
3-4 stars are ok and then 5-6 the jump in resources to get them ready for hard content is stupid
versed compass
idk i think its pretty fast to get ops ready
tired sky
you do? considering the amount of OPs we have ?
how much of youre entire roster is raised?
tired sky
i'd love to experiment more but i can't be arsed to raise most of my roster, thats my issue
and i'm not even f2p
versed compass
but its good enough to raise all 6* ops
which so far i dont have an issue of doing even tho am f2p
tired sky
now imagine how a f2p feels lmao
tired sky
you have all 6* ?
versed compass
how can you be a f2p and have every 6*?
wtf is insane luck you have
because i need that
tired sky
then dont say "Raise all 6* ops"
because youre not doing that
youre raising the ones you manage to get
versed compass
raiseing all 6* you own
tired sky
thats an entirely different thing
versed compass
here you go
the bigger issue is getting the ops
raising them is no issue
and conisdering once you raise an op you barely get (more upgrade) into said op
only modules (which is another issue duo to limited income)
so you will have enough time to raise bunch of silly 5 and 4* if you want too
hot rampart
im expecting some weight increase risk otherwise gladiia just solos the bottom red box spawns
also regarding raising 6*
e2ing 6* doesnt cost much
but once u go mastery and module
materials will burn really fast
books
module mats
versed compass
its like 2 week from base income on a weak base set up (no proviso)
and like 1 m3 is not bad either
i only draining my mats cause i do m6/m9 often
hot rampart
versed compass
never thought someone will be slower then me in siege m3
versed compass
i have 1 module blocks
siege can dream about getting module level 1 now
hot rampart
alright time to unlock my 4th braincell for this perma map
im going more than 18 for once
hallow garnet
Why no one use my ops
we all have them boo
hallow garnet
but i'll try to borrow some stuff for u just cuz i need to do the 5 borrow quest
for medal
do you have a raised saga?
hallow garnet
dun matter
i cleared with my lv60 sl7 one
but i'll borrow yours for a followup maybe
tribal thicket
What skill you want
hallow garnet
s3
tribal thicket
hallow garnet
but not now
tribal thicket
Ok
tribal thicket
Got it
hallow garnet
shes the perfect back holder for chongus
tribal thicket
thanks ariel
tribal thicket
glacial breach
New sciel just dropped
5head dorothy clear
Apparently retreating a mine as it explodes stops a chain reaction
glacial breach
fluid verge
Can't wait for this tired meme to go away
tribal thicket
Can't wait for this tired meme to go away
It'll never go away
Its been here for 3 years after all
tired sky
one can hope, these new events theyre trying to push out in place of CC suck
hallow garnet
im so sad that cc is going away
i legit enjoy it
and that replacement thing looked so bad
glacial breach
No more cc no more meme
Cc has the best memes though
CC is my favorite part of the game by far
Luv daily map challenges
quaint arch
"Hey, can I copy your homework?"
"Sure, just make it look different so that it doesn't look like you just copied it."
"Sure thing."
glacial breach
I have eunectes so can probably use her to tank red gigaweeb
Unless s2 hoshi just straight up has more defense
Can you stun him with snek s2?
Looked it up and hoshi has 110 def more than her
Shucks
Guy is probably immune to stun
quaint arch
He isn't
But there are risk that adds Status Resistance to him.
Especially Risk 3
Along with Stat Buffs
quaint arch
> "Hey, can I copy your homework?"
> "Sure, just make it look different so that ...
Take 2
wanton stratus
Sasuga the best 5* in the game
young void
quaint arch
How am I gonna beat the Ultimate Redblade challenge tho...
I may have to borrow Specter
versed compass
she is an RA and IS operator already, caring about water and hope
fluid verge
translated modules
quaint arch
||Fortress Modules||
||Increased Damage against Blocked Enemies||
I thought we're using such to bombard them ahead before they come to our frontline
tired gulch
Weak.
quaint arch
Now... do I want to upgrade S3?
I don't have Aak and idk if i wanna click a skill for a DEF boost while I can click a skill to melt the adversary.
hallow garnet
> "Hey, can I copy your homework?"
> "Sure, just make it look different so that ...
all good 😄
quaint arch
Let's test this on the Patriots
Barely made it
If the Talent 1 didn't trigger at all
fluid verge
block them with gravel
Recreate Manlet cannon by having mudrock in front and fortress defenders shelling her position
hot rampart
versed compass
just overkilling
tough matrix
Nice
glacial breach
Gorgeous art
tough matrix
Damn, the body made for sins
devout zenith
@quaint arch OH MAH GAWD I'M SO POOR
fluid verge
Is that the cap?
hot rampart
hope that means || her mom will be fine ||
vague sail
Damn, the body made for sins
if nun and holy why her body so sinful and unholy
hallow garnet
just overkilling
very glad to see the cheeto usage there
hot rampart
if i share my thoughts about whisperain skin i would get muted by the mods
hot rampart
2nd
hallow garnet
is it
hot rampart
yes
hot rampart
1st one is free skin
hallow garnet
does she even have story relevance
hot rampart
one can say that
hallow garnet
shes not even a popular unit
like
gib lumen a skin if we go non-msq relevant healers
or hell gib eyja another
hot rampart
as far as i see HG dont care if they are popular or not
hallow garnet
but at least shes popular
violet vortex
Outfit is long legs + dress with back exposed
hallow garnet
whisperain isnt even popular
hot rampart
have 2 skins tho
violet vortex
Not that crazy
versed compass
very glad to see the cheeto usage there
i mean she is my first m9 lol
hot rampart
it involve
artist availability
and im sure chuzenji are very willing to make more skins
hallow garnet
who else did they draw
hot rampart
its why astesia have 2 skins too
versed compass
alrighty highmore go in and join rhodes
versed compass
its why astesia have 2 skins too
she have 3 no?
hallow garnet
she has 2 i think
hot rampart
3
hallow garnet
3?
hot rampart
astesia has 3
hallow garnet
jesus
hot rampart
ty for reminding me
the idol skin
the 1st skin
and now CC
yuji really love his twins and quercus too
hallow garnet
gib cheeto a better skin pls
hot rampart
ouh yeah quercus 2nd skin
hot rampart
who else did they draw
gladiia
pozy
tomimi
enforcer
whisperain
wanton stratus
Not popular
No lore
No personality
Tied for most skins in the game
Astesia moment
hallow garnet
gladiia
pozy
tomimi
enforcer
whisperain
oooh okay
gladiia skin is peak
pozy is skin is cool but her face is weird on it
hot rampart
anyway i think HG are willing to shit out skins
if the artist themselve wants to draw it
violet vortex
The jellyfish was highmore?
hallow garnet
The jellyfish was highmore?
did you not read the ending
violet vortex
I did but it’s been a minute
hallow garnet
yeah it's highmore
versed compass
The jellyfish was highmore?
ya , mizuki just casually cut the seaborn part and cook it
violet vortex
It’s crazy to me which one is the real skin
hot rampart
who let him cook
violet vortex
If they fixed it I would get the skin rn
versed compass
was a fun run sadly no skadi encounter 
violet vortex
I don’t get why they gave her the crimson chin though
It’s not an issue on her base art
hot rampart
human anatomy is hard
violet vortex
The fixed version looks like it took very little time to fix
hot rampart
have u seen the horror that is of ak concert 2023 promo skin for stainless's group
i think they just go
"looks aight" despite being blind
hot rampart
5head
glacial breach
Huh shangshu trials is actually difficult for once
Hard to get an early setup
My usual ethan tile is blocked
tired sky
was pretty ok to me, flagpipe is a solid start that lets you set up ethan in the middle too
glacial breach
Myrtle saga skalter works for top but need a working bot
tired sky
i had la pluma on the right of the bottom block facing left
and passenger 3 tiles above the bottom block facing down
plus texas alter and kirin to cover
versed compass
i brute forced hard tho i probably could throw away a bunch of ops out tbh
tired sky
either should work, i went with texas
tired sky
la pluma still such a good investment
vague sail
if i share my thoughts about whisperain skin i would get muted by the mods
Why
How down bad are we talking
vague sail
God I wish she was an operator
Evil hot mommies
10/10
She also looks like it could be Texas mom
glacial breach
fluid verge
I'm down bad for whisperain too
glacial breach
Gayge
fluid verge
mizuki very cute yes
tough matrix
if nun and holy why her body so sinful and unholy
true
glacial breach
I have no originality
Looking at some vids you can apparently cheese gigachadweeb forever with weedy/specter combo
tired sky
yes thats how they do it in high risk
altho you need mostima to hold him back during his 20 seconds of invulnerability on phase change
wanton stratus
I thought there was a weight risk during week 2?
tired sky
after that push/pull/specalter cheese
glacial breach
I wish I had spalter man
Was super unlucky on her banner
Will probably never get her as well
Unless I spark her on a limited banner
But there arent any limited banners for a long time I actually want to pull on
next locust
anyone got a bagpipe s2 i can borrow
next locust
it's not up fast enough
next locust
the first cast is fine
it's between the first and second
where i need more multihits 3dlmao
next locust
nw
fluid verge
fluid verge
anyone got a bagpipe s2 i can borrow
do u need mod3 too?
next locust
i dont think so
fluid verge
added
quaint arch
<@761920110226833459> OH MAH GAWD I'M SO POOR
Have you ever touch grass?
And by that, I mean raise Ops
devout zenith
Since yato, no
next locust
@fluid verge ty for bagpipe
quaint arch
Fair enough
fluid verge
p6 baggers must feel invincible
versed compass
ok i finally went and done monthly
i picked the first op in every recruit (if possible) 
ebon sphinx
hot rampart
sinning
tired gulch
And to think, she was drawn like this a year ago
ebon sphinx
why are there so many young attractive professionals in Rhine Lab 
sharp tartan
They have researched skin care
hot rampart
hot rampart
alright fellas
devout zenith
you got the og link?
ebon sphinx
i dont like CC as a concept either, i do the bare minimum, save for rewards and royal tokens and be done
sharp tartan
I like cc as a concept but most of its difficulty comes from giving stats to enemies which is
hot rampart
theh shoulda make some buff for our operators to make up for that insane stats buff
something like trials navigator buff + CC map and risks
fluid verge
https://twitter.com/ashkillash/status/1709445623609713127?t=_GZAIklaSmiMeGfGP3bh...
Why is this jerboa so hot 
tired gulch
Whew.
hallow garnet
well that was toxic
oh i HATE this map
young void
yeah sal viento sucks
young void
Having that "Exclusive Outfit"
18 OP exu skin 
worf. gorgeous art as well
hallow garnet
and i need dummy horn to get rid of the top eggs
young void
gl with that ariel 
young void
which one
young void
well same ops but diff content creators
i tried for like an hour and im like bro
i hate sal viento
hallow garnet
young void
this map is not very fun
hallow garnet
we need more frd
young void
this is probably my least favorite rotation map atm
kinda bittersweet for last CC but i aint trying to waste too much time for sentimentals
hot rampart
young void
yeah 
young void
let's goooooo
hallow garnet
young void
hallow garnet
it's not?
but lee is good enuff
and he can block the stuns
and resist corrosion stun
young void
Suzuran strongest!
wanton stratus
alright fellas <:Naruhodo:965434974683668480>
Oh fuck off
Am I finally being punished for not trimming the CC#1 medal?
quaint arch
alright fellas <:Naruhodo:965434974683668480>
I'm not Day 1 Player
hot rampart
your days are numbered
wanton stratus
You only had to be playing since November 2020 to trim all 12
And not be mentally challenged like me
ebon sphinx
this is a SHIT stage
hm? I didnt use Suzuran even if mine is S2/S3 maxed
ebon sphinx
quaint arch
Only show 'em after tomorrow
hallow garnet
I DID IT
aaaa
YASSS
BHABY
lee fkin mvp
fkin last flower
godf
but i did it
eben was honestly there for flavor
and a big hit vs the flower that came before the big bad
@young void see no suzuran
hallow garnet
heh
young void
Reedic do be reediculous
versed compass
tough matrix
What skill should I raise for fiametta
young void
2
young void
and 3 if u wanna be mortar god
fluid verge
you go s3 if u wanna build artillery knights
slap mudrock right in the middle of s3 and u can pretend u have a manlet cannon with u
glacial breach
Leaked two top ones but a W is a W
spark oasis
This was more annoying than I had anticipated.
glacial breach
FRD is balanced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0vKvp5QS6I&t=8s
Is dorothy the new blue woman
versed compass
specialistknight is becoming the new guardknight
hallow garnet
Is dorothy the new blue woman
shes golden woman. and honestly i feel like dorothy takes a bit more skill than ling stuff
i may just level her
hallow garnet
Pls supply brokie
remind me later
i'll do 5 challenges with your saga boo
does it give you extra credit if i borrow it 5 times at once?
or is it 1 time a day from 1 person
hallow garnet
specialistknight is becoming the new guardknight
frdknights is honestly kinda cheese. guardknights at least needed some basic planning
this one is just easy panic buttons for whatever
i dont mind cuz saves me the time to look at videos most of the time but it's kinda gross how cheese these 2 are
versed compass
spec used to count on shifters to fight (they had good fighting abilitis in gladiia/weedy)
now its just texas yato + one of the following (dorothy/phantom/weedy/spalter) or something kek
hallow garnet
when you give frd guard level of damage smh
wanton stratus
Wtf
I still can’t beat sal viento karst on R15
Idfk how y’all do it so easily
Is the invis risk bait?
hallow garnet
no
i used that one
invis is not a problem
just SA
the range and more stats are a bigger problem
just bait out his skill
then u can go ham
i cheesed with 1st one with lee
well
i cheesed both of them with lee kinda
now that i think about it
hallow garnet
want me to put him up?
wanton stratus
Sure
wanton stratus
I’m probably too braindead to beat R15 in the end though
wanton stratus
Idk
I want to beat it on my own, but I am not having fun right now on the other hand
hallow garnet
what are u usnig?
wanton stratus
hallow garnet
ooo
hallow garnet
yea it is a bit
i used 7 squad
u dont rlly need vangs
what u need is pozy
horn is fine im assuming ur using her to clear top
wanton stratus
Ye
hallow garnet
oh also pro tip
since theres no leak risk
u can just let thru one of the bosses
they only take 2
wanton stratus
Yeah ik, but I can’t even manage to kill one of them
wanton stratus
Where do you put Lee?
hallow garnet
splitbox him
right at the edge of ifrit range
so lee will tank him
and ifrit will kill
i had reedic on top facing down
since reedic was my top egg clearer
but she helped keep lee topped off a bit
wanton stratus
So who held bot?
hallow garnet
pozy+ifrit
and frds
yato s3 instagibs the spitting flowers
sexas can kill the leaks
and stall the runner flower
the trick is
when the first big flower comes
let it run past your right side
go in a circle
and when he comes next to mid-egg box again
you can stun with sexas
right as big boss comes
so you stun flower, whcih will kill with dot dmg AND you can bait boss skill at the same time
and THEN put lee
to splitbox
ideally u dont wanna touch the 2nd flower
cuz then it will outspeed the boss
and will get stuck on ur lee
so u cant splitbox the boss
and if you let it pass by u wont have sexas back up in time to stun again
wanton stratus
So Lee survives with only Reedic healing?
hallow garnet
or whoevers healing
i only used reedic cuz she was already there clearing top
but yes he lived
easy
oh also u can put pozy typewriter facing up
so lee+reedic+pozy type+ifrit can kill pretty fast
but make sure to kill the 2 farther eggs on top
with pozy typewrite beforehand
cuz if u put reedic downwards
she wontreach those 2
or you can ignore all this and go the SA+surtr+suzu clusterfuck murder that noelle used
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same kill tile strat just right in front of mid egg box
this is what i used
eben isnt necessary
you can go with red for more stall