Arknights

[hallow garnet]

wattpad worthy

[versed compass]

executer on skill damage look decent

tho attack recover sucks
needing stainless or chen to have conisstence casting

will be intresting to try him in IS regardless

[hallow garnet]

yeah

on-atk stuff sucks

like i get that hes supposed to be ground chalter without the added utility

but like boy the dmg is not even close

nevertheless hes hot

hes not bad just balanced and balanced is mid usually nowadays

but imma pull him and use him regardless cuz hotness above all

too bad he cant hit air tho

but im not a fan of the on-atk recovery at all

[versed compass]

i think his damage is actually close to chalter
it just thats a sl7 executer i think not m3
and he hit faster so less noticeable

[hallow garnet]

but he has no def shred

also i think i kinda like his s2 ?

[versed compass]

flat def shred is really just +XXX damage

[hallow garnet]

but if you def shred u help ur team too

[versed compass]

like whatever chalter attack is on skill just add the 220 to know on hit damage

99.99% chance chalter is doing the def shred for her self only

lets be real

[hallow garnet]

i guess 😄

all 3 skills are on-atk?

[versed compass]

its different to % shred

which scale higher into def

ya all executer skills are ammo attack recover

[hallow garnet]

yeah they are

if he gets a module that improves his bullet gain on s2

he can be a pretty decent healerless laneholder

[versed compass]

am sad the first 6* reaper is a burst based tho

[hallow garnet]

but i must say

im kinda unimpressed

maybe we have seen too much broken shit lately

[versed compass]

idk cn have not seen much broken shit lately

its just like yato

maybe reedic

[hallow garnet]

isnt reeedic broken?

[versed compass]

will reedic is also 5 months old now or something

[hallow garnet]

ah so doesnt count

okay

hmm well

he will perform just fine

i hope

[versed compass]

oh he will perform fine

just more of (strong but not broken) catagory

i think

[hallow garnet]

yea

like chongus

future males paying the mlynar tax

[versed compass]

idk the one paying taxes are the jailed story charecters

lin and ho are big dissapointments

imagine being a very recent 6* in limited banner and just being an angelina niche side grade

actually recent 2 CN limiteds have good limited meh non limited

compared to the one we just had with broken limited + strong non limited

[hallow garnet]

i hope when logos comes he'll be super good

ah yeah

hoo is kinda meh

[versed compass]

if he came in a limited as non limited he will be bad

better come in a mini event like mlynar/surtr

[hallow garnet]

im actually thinking if penance s2 might not be so bad

like i was under the impression that she was an s3 unit

but her s2 looks kinda pog?

for aoe shit

[plucky jay]

Tbh I like her S2 more in general

[hallow garnet]

@vague sail when are u getting ur penance s2m3?

[quaint arch]

Rexecutor S3 theoretically have higher Peak DPS than Sniper Ch'en S3

Tho Rexecutor need to Ramp Up first

[vague sail]

When I get mats I actually drained af

[hallow garnet]

wut

wow

go boyo

[quaint arch]

Disclaimer here

Also Attack Recovery

Good luck feeding fodders

Or use Stainless Metal Crap - Prototype

[plucky jay]

Not an issue with this handy op called STainLeSS steaaal

Get your Stainless steel today and enjoy free Exec buff

waste S3 shots

[hallow garnet]

ugh right

he wastes them

on the turrets

damng

[quaint arch]

There's another Solution to that

S2 SP Battery

[hallow garnet]

turn it off

[quaint arch]

[hallow garnet]

or just retreat turrets

with feist module u get to recover turrets

[plucky jay]

But muh free Turret damage…

Never been happier to randomly pull a Stainless on a limited banner

[quaint arch]

Btw, i calculated this after Rexecutor fired like... 16 Shots

So left with 4/5 more shots

Since 20 + (5*16) = 100% Chance of triggering Talent 1

Also don't forget that he has Final Hit when Skill Ends

[versed compass]

average luck in relics

tho only d9

[bleak mirage]

Nice

[quaint arch]

Wasn't the face supposed to be frowning?

[strong rampart]

It has multiple faces

Nendoroids are customizable bruh

And I didn’t even pay out of pocket for it

[wanton stratus]

Weeb

Btw, if anyone’s got clue #6 pls dap me up

[hallow garnet]

so we gonna call him rexecutor then

i'll just call him rex

rexecutor is too damn long

fitting but long

[fluid verge]

rektecutor

[wanton stratus]

Execalter

Executwo

Executor => Executer?

[hot rampart]

Rex
Reaper executor

fine by me

[quaint arch]

It's in the corner

[wanton stratus]

What

I’ll put you in the corner, goddammit

[fluid verge]

I'll sit with u in the corner

[wanton stratus]

Two dunce caps for two dunces, coming right up

[fluid verge]

wdym ur gonna join us

[wanton stratus]

Nah, they’re for you and Yuwen, you silly billy

I’m very comfortable in my parent’s basement, thank you very much

[plucky jay]

woah you cant be the only one left out

ill head towards your basement corner

[wanton stratus]

Welcome

[fluid verge]

Now u join us in corner duty

[plucky jay]

[strong rampart]

what in the hell

never mind

walks away

[fickle path]

Noseis

[quaint arch]

GnoSUS

[violet vortex]

Still haven’t seen the medic 2nd encounter

Actually impossible event

[wanton stratus]

Godssenger has arrived

I’m legitimately considering pulling on this banner considering I don’t have Kal’tsit or Passenger

Especially since my Texalter pulls went so well

[plucky jay]

How do you not have Kal tho

[wanton stratus]

I know, right?

I even got two Skalters on her banner

But no Kal

[plucky jay]

Oof

[wanton stratus]

[plucky jay]

[wanton stratus]

Tbf I didn’t pull hard for Kal, only aimed for Skadance. So I did less than 70 pulls in the end

I regret it every day

It’s probably a bad idea to pull since Kal becomes a shoperator in 3 months anyway

I properly controlled my gacha impulses

[quaint arch]

WELCOME

[versed compass]

and then to see all relics you need to find teh second medic encounter again but with the light relic

am still 1/6 advance squad

and still have not seen the other 2 alters

saw the old man twice

i heard at 0 light they always appear but how the fuck do i get to 0 light in first 2 floors

[wanton stratus]

I humbly enter the fold of Godssenger

[tribal thicket]

Dudes in my Rhodes Island!?

[tough matrix]

idk who tf decide to make Kazemaru's and Vigil's m3 mats need CEU, but if I found him I will kill him

[tough matrix]

hey

I got 2 kal and 0 skalter

[wanton stratus]

Just wait until Ariel hears of this

[wanton stratus]

Rip

[tough matrix]

I remember I did around 180 pulls

to get W

and I didn't got her

so I decide to stop playing the game for a while

[wanton stratus]

Damn

[tough matrix]

probably around 2-3 weeks

[wanton stratus]

Should’ve kept saving so you could spark W later

[tough matrix]

I don't remember

smh

I can't control my gacha addictions

[wanton stratus]

Although I assume you wanted Skalter as well

[tough matrix]

nah

I just want W

at that time

[wanton stratus]

L

[fluid verge]

someone actually raising vigil?

[wanton stratus]

It’s such a low chance for a limited spook

[wanton stratus]

Vergil

[tough matrix]

kinda

[fluid verge]

u go guy

[tough matrix]

and also 69 trust

I'm gonna m6 kazemaru first
and then s3m3 vigil

[wanton stratus]

Kazemaru is cool

Too bad she debuted like a month before Spalter

[tough matrix]

Kazemaru my beloved

[fluid verge]

that kaze skin is so good

[tough matrix]

yes

man, I really need coagulation gel

[fluid verge]

ill coagulate u

[tough matrix]

why both ceu and the new one eat coagulation gel

[wanton stratus]

Coagulate deez nuts

[tough matrix]

I will shit that person

smh

[wanton stratus]

I’ve gotta say, this Texas the Omertosa operator sure seems strong after using her for a bit

[tough matrix]

she is strong

like, stupidly strong

[fluid verge]

brokenly strong

[tough matrix]

more versatile than surtr

[fluid verge]

how dare u

sutr cant die

[tough matrix]

can she hit drones tho

[fluid verge]

just wait for the surtr alter upgrade

where she becomes a sniper

with a giant gun

[tough matrix]

if surtr got an alter, I'm gonna quit the game for 1 month

or maybe more if I forgor

screenshot it if you want

[wanton stratus]

I won’t screenshot it because I don’t want you to quit

[quaint arch]

I won't cuz the Alter will be suck so much

Like worse than Vigil

[fluid verge]

wdym shes going to be a summer type

shes gonna place down multiple laevatainns

[tough matrix]

let me quit

[fluid verge]

and on skill activation, create a pulse that deals true damage to everything

[wanton stratus]

Well duh. All operators are worse than Vigil

[quaint arch]

Are you quitting cuz of people who thought CEU Mats is a good idea?

[tough matrix]

smh

[quaint arch]

[wanton stratus]

No

[tough matrix]

Vigil is the most broken operator

[tough matrix]

yes, and yes

also for some reason, surtr always evading my pulls

so its guarantee I will never get her alter form

[quaint arch]

Just don't rely on JUS Strat then

That way, RNG might give a thought to Spook you

[tough matrix]

what is JUS

[quaint arch]

It is a short for

Just
Use
Surtr

[tough matrix]

I don't use JUS strat

I'm using JUT strat

[quaint arch]

Eek

Doesn't rhyme

[tough matrix]

cry about it

[fluid verge]

wjo is the T?

[quaint arch]

Taxes

[fluid verge]

can still be JUS

Just use specialist texas

[tough matrix]

JUST

[quaint arch]

Di Molto

[fluid verge]

4 > 3

[quaint arch]

👌

[tough matrix]

👌

[fluid verge]

JUST > JUS

[tough matrix]

oh I just realize I have 22 primes

[wanton stratus]

Retired

[tough matrix]

but I don't really want to buy any of the skins

[wanton stratus]

22

Goofy aah flex

[tough matrix]

smh

you probably got 22 as well with two 0 on the back

[wanton stratus]

Actually I have 360

[tough matrix]

smh

[wanton stratus]

Ikr

[tough matrix]

my flex is as small as a dust

[quaint arch]

Yeah, i blame YoeStar for this.

[wanton stratus]

My flex is 4”

[quaint arch]

[tough matrix]

smh

[wanton stratus]

It’s Yoever

[bleak mirage]

Why should I screenshot what will happen later down the line. Maybe when it does she can have some personality with it?

[tough matrix]

[fluid verge]

waiting for sutr lore

[tough matrix]

surtr lore: she OP af, and she likes ice cream.

I think the left one is better for texalter, right?

[fluid verge]

probably

[vague sail]

she has also amnesia

[fluid verge]

its 3k arts dmg on short redeploy character

[tough matrix]

oh yeah

[tough matrix]

exactly

[fluid verge]

old fan is probably just a 40% attack buff on average me thinks

left is way more selfish but texalter deletes the map so

go for more map deleting

[tough matrix]

yea

wow, W's potato mine proc Sui's wrath eff

free bomb

[versed compass]

its not even close

old fan is way better then any other relic in the game except maybe the ranged camo

[versed compass]

average is like 60~70%

[tough matrix]

oh

aight

[versed compass]

becuase its rare you miss 4 classes in later floors

also fun fact

the drop relic is bugged on texas

it dont proc

[tough matrix]

oh is it?

[versed compass]

ya its bugged

the explode is the relic animation

it plays but no damage

but even if it works on texas

you only getting 3 k damage per drop

where old fan adds 60%+ which like 10k+ damage per texas drop

and then every other op is broken

[tough matrix]

but the relics also trigger when W's potato mine dropped

that's good enough for me

[versed compass]

and W potato mines are like 60~80% stronger

like old fan effect every single op massivly

and phy scale a lot better with attack

[tough matrix]

noted

cool

[versed compass]

while the art damage you get from sui will be hit by res massivly

and bosses have like 70 base res

[hot rampart]

easy right no contest

whatever useless said i can confirm

[tough matrix]

[hot rampart]

the sui wrath is pretty mid all things considered and the only relevant "upside" u can think of is W S2

they definitely look funni cuz they have special animation

but the damage are negligible

there is trapmaster archetype and it works with their mines too

i was hunting for a run during is2 and getting that relic while i have both dorothy and W

the relic was so unnecessary for me to win the run

[tough matrix]

cool

[wanton stratus]

Roasted for picking the wrong relic

Very nice

[versed compass]

also can kill runs

flower + sui

perfect combo

[wraith brook]

Alright,onto the 6th floor we go.

[versed compass]

emergency fire and water union

[tired gulch]

Time to kill Skadi

[wraith brook]

Okay,it turn out when you can just get a really high atk spd everything become quite simple.

[vague sail]

@hot rampart

[wanton stratus]

[violet vortex]

No.
Old fan is the strongest relic in the gamemode period. Sui’s Wrath is genuinely bad

[tough matrix]

this is the third time i've been told with that word

[violet vortex]

Even if old fan was giving you a 10% attack buff - the lowest possible - it would be stronger than Sui

[tough matrix]

I'm tired

[wanton stratus]

My condolences

[violet vortex]

Whoever told you to pick Sui over Old Fan has no idea what they’re talking about

You literally always grab Old Fan if it’s offered

[tough matrix]

I choose it myself

[violet vortex]

Nothing beats it

[tough matrix]

yeah, useless and kama already told me that

[violet vortex]

Although Sui is like

The worst super rare relic in the gamemode

So getting Sui is an automatic pick the other one

[versed compass]

sarkaz treaty is super rare is not it

[violet vortex]

Sui has a high chance go outright lose you a map

[versed compass]

true

[violet vortex]

Like vs the flower stage

Where sui can wake up every single flower

[versed compass]

just use texas alter
she dont do damage with it for some reason

[violet vortex]

And they will all rush blue box

Texas alone can’t even handle that

[versed compass]

i mean use her to kill other enemies since she dont proc sui

dont think theres another unit with this bug sadly

[violet vortex]

But yeah Sui bad, Old Fan literally best relic in the gamemode

[versed compass]

only relic arguably in similar power is the ranged cant be targeted tbh

[violet vortex]

Can’t believe you would mislead this man like that

I also can’t believe you’d think a 3k on deploy is better than 40% attack buff

That’s crazy

[versed compass]

ya its average 60~70

since its super hard you would miss 3+ classes in a run

[violet vortex]

The 40% attack buff on Texas skill would already severely outdamage that 3k flat

[versed compass]

actually 40 is better then 2 boss relics

the 35% for melee and ranged

old fan is like both and double stats at peak

[violet vortex]

Yeah it’s like he made it sound like 40% attack buff is small

[versed compass]

[violet vortex]

It’s higher than other super relics as is

But most old fan runs

Are 2-4x the strength of other relics

[versed compass]

chalice was the only relic to give it a run in power level

but chalice is deleted

i still favor old fan over chalice tho

[violet vortex]

It turns every character into a monster

[versed compass]

old fan moment

[violet vortex]

Off skill btw

[versed compass]

off skill no blade dance

she could not do much damage anyway cause mizuki was doing like 15~20k damage every s1 on the left

[violet vortex]

But consider you could do a whole 3k damage on deployment

Instead of tripling your dps on every character

God forbid you got an Exu in an old fan run and have her do 7x more dps than usual

[fluid verge]

[tired gulch]

....I'm level 119 now

[wanton stratus]

Congrats

[tired gulch]

I'm reaching the end soon

[wanton stratus]

The end of what?

[tropic creek]

The end towards the new beginning

The beginning of never having free stamina when leveling up

[hot rampart]

based

[wanton stratus]

[vague sail]

what do you m3

[hot rampart]

s2 and s3

mastery s2>s3

[vague sail]

[fluid verge]

S2 is braindead mode

s3 if u can tag 4 mobs clustered together

if you have dorothy

you can have a field of mines

then the enemy has to wade through the mines

as u shell them with fortress defenders

and fiameta s3

[tribal thicket]

I'll cluster you

[plucky jay]

Nonono that’s not right

It should be “I’ll shell u”

[fluid verge]

firewhistle needs to come sooner

[bleak mirage]

Didn’t cn increase the level cap?

[tropic creek]

okay thats cn

[wanton stratus]

Hey @strong rampart, I need the sage advice of an Angelina simp. Which of her modules is better?

[plucky jay]

The Tene answer would be to get both

[wanton stratus]

He rich

[plucky jay]

Indeed

[wanton stratus]

Although when it comes to module materials, I am too

[plucky jay]

Richos

[wanton stratus]

Moneybags

Really wish there was an in-game way to check the level 2 and 3 stat gains and talent improvements without building the first level of a module

Spreadsheet gaming doesn’t really appeal to my casual side

[plucky jay]

I was gonna say you could just go on gamepress to check

But then you just said you dont like spreadsheet gaming

[wanton stratus]

I covered my bases

[tropic creek]

just build them to figure the stats out

[wanton stratus]

[bleak mirage]

I second this

[wanton stratus]

🤝

[bleak mirage]

Like hey

Please let me see what the sauce looks like

[wanton stratus]

TFW the module system isn’t goated with the sauce

[bleak mirage]

Indeed

[willow nymph]

usually some +40% for the stats compared to mod 1

talent improvements are just go check on a sheet

[wanton stratus]

It drives me insaaaaane

[plucky jay]

Hit hard a broken wall

[bleak mirage]

Texas the problem harder dog

[strong rampart]

uh idk what the 2nd module does

lmao

never looked at it

but the first one increases the slow duration of her attacks, and her passive heal

[wanton stratus]

[quaint arch]

Then the second one gives +0.2/s SP when enemies nearby

And boosts the Aspd Talent

A bit

[wanton stratus]

That sounds better

[violet vortex]

You do the one that increases her passive heal

Since the character sucks and the passive heal is all she has going for her as is

An attack speed bonus of 3 is what the other module offers

[strong rampart]

only if it stacks with Suzu

:^)

[violet vortex]

My main usage of Angelina is throwing her in a random corner of the map for the passive heal then forgetting she exists

Maybe guarding blue box if placement is convenient

[hot rampart]

good thing i dont have suzu

[strong rampart]

[versed compass]

my main use of angelina have been doing some shifting nonsense

i failed to push highmore to hole

[ebon sphinx]

with +2 shift i presume?

[versed compass]

i.... did not unlock that sadly

1/6 advance squad

i have 500 investment for like a week and still have not seen a second advance squad

[plucky jay]

The last time I used Ange was for a low op cc clear

Is probably my last time using her

[versed compass]

nah

you gonna use her in nearl alter rerun

to push blood knight

[plucky jay]

Ah yes

The rerun that already happened

[versed compass]

of course
nearl gonna have 4 reruns cause its a big event

[wanton stratus]

Rip

I usually put her in my squad for her aspd talent for clearing stages a few frames faster, but she probably slows down the load time enough just being in the squad to make it not worth

Shit hardware moment

[spark oasis]

We talking about Ange?

You don't upgrade either of her modules because they're just complete dogwater.

Give her DEC-X Lvl 1 for the SP charge and be done with it. DEC-Y is worthless as it doesn't meaningfully affect her skills.

[violet vortex]

If you’re even using this character then the bulk of her purpose is a passive healer and small atk speed buff that is infinite

The attack buff from her other mod is terrible

The heal almost doubles with her other one so it amplifies her main quirk

[spark oasis]

In a world where characters have over 1k HP, I genuinely don't register 35HP/s any more than 20.

That healing quirk of Ange is completely incidental, not something you focus on.

[hot rampart]

https://vxtwitter.com/bawee24/status/1667280228538884097

[violet vortex]

If you’re focusing on something else you could just use a better character

[spark oasis]

If you're focusing on her healing quirk you can just use Perfumer.

[violet vortex]

It’s the aspect I’ve used for the character alongside the attack buff

While she guards some random corner or blue box

[hot rampart]

wish her attack speed increase from upgrades doesnt require the in her attack range condition and just buff the global attack speed numbers directly

[violet vortex]

It’s why I don’t bother with it

Her downtime on m3 is fine and rarely a problem

The attack speed improvement from it is a joke

The heal improvement mod improving her slow is also relevant to when she is actually doing something

[hot rampart]

think dec Y is worth for lvl one for the slow duration increase
its useful for s3
the healing increase is just powercreeped by perfumer

[spark oasis]

The slow doesn't improve anything though.
On S2 she attacks so frequently that she refreshes the timer, and on S3, she still attacks at a fast enough interval that the only noticable change is the duration from enemies that exit her range.

[hot rampart]

dec y definitely pointless for s2

[violet vortex]

If only they didn’t add the unnecessary ass restriction to her attack speed improvement

When it’s already not great

[spark oasis]

I just wish she got something involving weight reduction. She'd at least have some additional synergy and applications with Pushers, Hookmasters and Levitate.

Just something to make her stand out against Suzuran.

[hot rampart]

its the only thing she has left for her niche

[ebon sphinx]

she got additional love via having a manga/manhwa/etc dedicated to her

she sure doesn't get much story focus in general...

weeell, I guess she's a candidate for an altera considering the profile keeps talking about how she has very strong potential and doesn't have much story revealed about her

[hot rampart]

keep sniffing that copium

[ebon sphinx]

you do it, I am just throwing out deductive theories

[hot rampart]

characters not getting story focus is what u have to expect and accept in AK

it is sort of remedied by their own operator records thing

[ebon sphinx]

I can only wonder what would Il Siracusano sequel would be like considering she's one. Though I am more putting my bet on Lappland Altera + follow up on Red and Crownslayer

[hot rampart]

i dont think ange will have any significant role in siracusano 2

shes a fox

i will throw an oddball and i really want to see suzu's mom instead

[ebon sphinx]

Suzumom can I legally adopt your daughter

[hot rampart]

u already filled the caretaker role with rhodes island

[violet vortex]

I use Angelina more than most but I can’t say I care much for this character getting any more than this

Let their legacy remain in being mediocre

[spark oasis]

A follow up to the Siracusa story will happen eventually. Demetri's artwork clearly shows he's an operator.

[ebon sphinx]

you have to beat Vigil to truly be mediocre

[violet vortex]

If it did it wouldn’t involve angelina anyways

[hot rampart]

vigil isnt mediocre he is just shit

[violet vortex]

What relation does she even have to fictional italy

[hot rampart]

shes from there

her hometown

[violet vortex]

Sure doesn’t look like it

And she didn’t get an italian dub either

[vague sail]

[violet vortex]

Negative rating overall

[spark oasis]

Intel and Cargo transporter, apparently.

[violet vortex]

That’s also pretty funny to be from there but have 0 relevance in the event in any conceivable way

[hot rampart]

yes its really not meant to be

[ebon sphinx]

Siracusa is in fact fox and wolf country Chiave who's a gang leader from there is one

[hot rampart]

her shtick is being a messenger that travel terra

[violet vortex]

She’s trash let her stay that way

[vague sail]

Now that's just rude

[violet vortex]

Eventually we’ll get someone to take the weight gimmick from her too

[hot rampart]

one man's trash is another man's treasure

well

not seeing one for now

[vague sail]

Where is the new abyssal hunter story arc

[violet vortex]

I only recognized the wolves since I never got an understanding behind why foxes are too

[hot rampart]

fox less tribalism and just leave the forsaken place without a problem

[ebon sphinx]

I think foxes are just a minority there

[violet vortex]

So angelina is a minority in her hometown
Had no relation to the event
Has 0 italian dialect in her va work
Didn’t get an italian dub

[hot rampart]

yes to all 4

[violet vortex]

What a great character

Very involved

[spark oasis]

Vulpos aren't a minority in Siracusa.

[hot rampart]

shes a great character

but not involved at all

with siracusano

[violet vortex]

I disagree she’s a terrible character

Her personality is just being a normal person

[hot rampart]

thats fine

[violet vortex]

You can get that from npcs

[hot rampart]

i like those kind of npcs they are great

being normal in a world like AK feels like a virtue

[violet vortex]

When your character is being the SpongeBob Roundpants of a universe you’re not great

There are a ton of normal characters in the story that just not being constantly in a state of peril isn’t enough

Like the mechanic bear in the nearl event is a fairly normal guy

But he also is funny

What does angelina have that female_vulpo_3 doesn’t

[hot rampart]

a manga dedicated to her

[violet vortex]

I’m not reading her shitty romcom

[hot rampart]

ur loss

[ebon sphinx]

isn't it solo focused

[violet vortex]

What could it even be about

[hot rampart]

her being a messenger

traveling the world

see more of terra

see the people around them

[violet vortex]

A character with no personality traveling

That sounds great she’s a tourist with a staff

[hot rampart]

no personality

more personality than texas can ever achieve for starters

[vague sail]

[violet vortex]

Yeah but that wasn’t the baseline

[hot rampart]

im sorry for not knowing what ur baseline of no personality is

[violet vortex]

The character is way too basic to be interesting

Angelina is the default personality

They didn’t edit anything

[hot rampart]

dont need to

just a normal blissful girl who just wants to see the world of terra

i can vibe with that

[vague sail]

But that actually doesn't fit in the world of terra at all

[violet vortex]

I can’t I hate normal teenagers in stories

[vague sail]

Her being normal is out of place

[violet vortex]

A girl who just wants to go shopping and wear nice clothes

Real great ideals

[spark oasis]

I mean, not everybody has to be overbearingly exceptional, otherwise no-one would be.

[violet vortex]

It’s normal young adult naive views but there isn’t enough development there for it to be amazing

Yeah that’s why I mentioned the bear npc

In nearl light event

[spark oasis]

I will agree that she is a pretty bland character though.

[violet vortex]

He’s just a dude who fixes things

[violet vortex]

He lives a normal life for the most part

But he also talks shit to his homies

[hot rampart]

thats nice

just a normal bro

[violet vortex]

Yeah and he’s cool

[hot rampart]

cool

[violet vortex]

Angelina’s ray of sunshine & generally nice normal character isn’t

[vague sail]

I would rather take more mentally insane characters

Than more Angelina's

[violet vortex]

They don’t all have to be W

But there are already plenty of Angelina’s type

Along the npcs in the game

[hot rampart]

thats your opinion
stay with it

i stay with mine

we cool

[ebon sphinx]

and I just remembered that Savage has no presence

[violet vortex]

when male_vulpo_2 said: “Just finished work, good day today”

I felt that

[hot rampart]

savage

[vague sail]

No ofc not but in a story such as AK I think they fit more

[violet vortex]

Idk we have characters like say Hoshi

[vague sail]

Having 2 or 3 screw loses is normal

[violet vortex]

Who are fairly normal considering

But they have more going on than just being a normal person in how they interact with others

Rather than generally nice

[hot rampart]

another year considering

what happens

after we have pot 6 savage

do they just stop giving savage pots

[violet vortex]

Who the heck is savage

[hot rampart]

or de we get 15 gold certs

if they keep giving savage pots

[hot rampart]

a trash irrelevant character that has worse presence than an npc

and shit in game too

such a good combo

[violet vortex]

Dang so angelina but a 5*

[hot rampart]

wrong

[ebon sphinx]

blurb says that she's Amiya's caretaker who knew Doktah and Amiya pre amnesia but...

you'd need to look to know that

[violet vortex]

These characters that have terrible first impressions

[hot rampart]

just like rubio

[violet vortex]

I am gonna add “italian that has 0 italian traits” to my list of angelina hate comments though in the future

The difference is rubio is a good character after the fact

[hot rampart]

thats great

[violet vortex]

And his bad first impression was purposeful

[hot rampart]

a character that is good after given enough spotlight

👏

[vague sail]

like talulah

[violet vortex]

Angelina’s bad first impression is that she just doesn’t do anything

[vague sail]

my beloved

[violet vortex]

Talulah is the biggest hypocrite I ever seen

[wanton stratus]

Nah, she’s based

[vague sail]

how dare you

[violet vortex]

She spent the entire pre-crazy arc telling people with no life left in them that shit gets better. And that you have to persevere

1 bad event happens to her

“I’m gonna kill fucking everyone”

[hot rampart]

2 bad event

[vague sail]

ok you oversimplify it

it wasnt that simple

[wanton stratus]

She got possessed by her creepy stepfather wdym

[violet vortex]

She’s the definition of “it’s different when it’s me”

[vague sail]

she was literally brainwshed since early age

[hot rampart]

groomed

[vague sail]

that is not an easy thing to fight

[hot rampart]

and kept on groomed

[violet vortex]

Doesn’t change things

[wanton stratus]

[vague sail]

you can literally see that irl

[violet vortex]

Took 1 bad event

[hot rampart]

2 bad event

[violet vortex]

For her to do a 180 kickflip

What is the other bad event

[hot rampart]

her friend dying and seeing the monstrocity of what the village did to the infected inside that barn

[sharp tartan]

I thought that happens around the same time

[quaint arch]

[hot rampart]

there was a gap between them

[violet vortex]

So her solution was to be exactly like the villagers

[quaint arch]

I'll be playing in the Constant in a meanwhile, guys

[hot rampart]

more like she is mindbroken

and her stepfather influence starts kicking in

[vague sail]

you have to put into account that most of her decisions are not her own

lol

[violet vortex]

Okay then what am I supposed to say

[hot rampart]

a tragedy

[wanton stratus]

“What if we’re racist towards racists instead?” - Talulah

[violet vortex]

She was a leader that couldn’t lead

[vague sail]

nothing its just that things are not that simple of her

as she had a bad event and turn bad

[violet vortex]

Then after she got the biggest copout reason

She became a plank of wood

After that

[vague sail]

you can see her real character starting to show at the end of chapter 10 where she meets koschenka

[wanton stratus]

I’m also in Constant ||pain||

[vague sail]

or whatever her name is

[violet vortex]

Groomed by kidnapper -> Becomes rebel leader of infected -> 2 whole bad events happen -> Kills everyone -> Evil man I’m supposed to blame everything on is gone now -> She is now a monk

[vague sail]

my copium crackhead theory is she is going to return and help RI with nine and somehow she is going to become playable

[wanton stratus]

I don’t know what Constant is, I’m sorry Yuwen

[quaint arch]

Nevermind @wanton stratus

[wanton stratus]

I was joking

[vague sail]

not gone actually

[violet vortex]

I know

[vague sail]

evil man turned evil woman

and actually hot

[violet vortex]

“Gone from her now technically kind of maybe”

But that’s still

[quaint arch]

I should've see your status there first

[violet vortex]

You know not good

I’m not going to say she had no involvement in that

[wanton stratus]

So what exactly is Constant though?

[violet vortex]

She killed patriot then I’m supposed to say it’s all good that wasn’t really you

[vague sail]

i myself am willing to give talulah as a villaine a small benefit of the doubt

[hot rampart]

no u arent suppose to say that

nobody is redeeming talulah

[violet vortex]

I sure am not

[quaint arch]

Horrible World & Creatures

[vague sail]

I WANT HER TO BECOME PLAYBLE

let me inhale my copium

[violet vortex]

I don’t know why though

What does she have

Unless it’s a looks thing

[vague sail]

shes a complicated character

in a world where everything is gray

[violet vortex]

Correction: She has a complicated backstory

[hot rampart]

maybe becuz shes the main antagonist for the whole reunion arc? idk man what do u want from her

[violet vortex]

She is not a complicated character

She is a plank of wood now

None of what she did is morally gray

She killed people just cuz

She plotted assassinations

[hot rampart]

u sort of simplifying it

[violet vortex]

The only gray area is the fact that someone else was controlling a majority of those actions

I’d rather have the now female kash as an op

If we’re getting a villain

[vague sail]

[violet vortex]

She killed the two cooler characters from the arc

[hot rampart]

in the scheme of things infected is actually nothing of a big deal to the powerful nations of terra

they dont care about infected

talulah and the stepfather plot intertwined by trying to trigger a war between yan and ursus through proxy of chernobog raming into lungmen and this is caused by an infected group called reunion

[violet vortex]

She cared about infected until two bad events happened

Where she then was willing to kill all of them

[hot rampart]

not all of them

just the ones she has with her

[violet vortex]

Okay so the ones that matter

And any who get in the way

[hot rampart]

they matter just becuz they were there?

and was given story about them

[violet vortex]

If she had succeeded then all the other random npc infected would be a part of the second group

Of getting in her way

[hot rampart]

and the nation will start actually care about the infected

negatively or positively

[violet vortex]

Or being affected by her influence the same as all the other powers of the world

That’d care about that one infected in the form of wanting her dead

I would trade 10 talulah’s for patriot reviving and being an op instead

At least patriot doesn’t have the mother of all copouts to try and cleanup his actions

[hot rampart]

i think he has a lot of copouts with how he still survive that long

[violet vortex]

Have any sarkaz been given an average lifespan for natural causes

All of them seem to die well before that could happen

[vague sail]

well at least now after the events of SN we know that at the grander scheme of things none of these matter much

when the seaborn are slowly creeping up

[hot rampart]

dont fall for the seaborn propaganda

[violet vortex]

I still don’t get the talulah hype

Frostnova was way better

Hell faust was better

And that dude is probably the most screwed over character ever

[hot rampart]

tragic

[violet vortex]

He got no sad scene from the RI people

He got forgotten in most dialogues when mentioning Reunion bosses

Like legitimately forgotten

And he got remade into an ursus woman

[vague sail]

how did you know i work for them

[hot rampart]

greythroat retrieved his crossbow

[violet vortex]

With no relation

[hot rampart]

yes inquisitor this one right here

[violet vortex]

For every other reunion leader death they made a big deal of it

[vague sail]

i blame skalter

[violet vortex]

Mephisto became a pokemon and got at least an hour long kal speech

[hot rampart]

maybe faust did his job well so much of being a "stealth" sniper he was still being stealth about it for his story

[vague sail]

you either like her or you dont

[violet vortex]

Frostnova got a majority of a chapter and a post death relevance

[vague sail]

you dont really have to get it

[violet vortex]

Patriot the same thing

[hot rampart]

also yeah i kind off dont get talulah hype either but didnt agree how u simplified her story

[violet vortex]

Talulah being an op as she was under the influence is just an evil person in the group
Talulah being an op after the fact is 😐

That’s just what I took away from her story

[hot rampart]

depends

[ebon sphinx]

question is whether her being an op would be worse or better than some of the ops RI has

in terms of crimes

[hot rampart]

theres assumptions where she will get involved with victoria arc for the throne

since shes a draco

[violet vortex]

She got kidnapped
Rebelled because of injustice
When talking to others who had their lives ruined she was quick to tell them not to give up
Bad events happen to her a whole 2 times and she does a 180 kill everyone
She fails in her actions then goes to jail
Her ability to react to stimuli dropped to at least below the human average
Now she’s a prisoner to her old group

Mixed in with that is the grooming, gaslighting, really still barely understand what he/she is character

[hot rampart]

https://youtu.be/GNe4xoekXaA

[violet vortex]

Who in some ways attempts to tank majority of the blame for the bulk of it

It’s in a lot of ways the most interesting part of the character but is also the part she no longer has

[hot rampart]

i like her downfall from her naive hopeful thing to absolute insanity

[violet vortex]

I didn’t like how easily it happened

It didn’t feel like a downfall

More like a flash

I blinked and she’s insane now

[vague sail]

lol

[hot rampart]

i disagree

[violet vortex]

It’s different when it’s me

[hot rampart]

its not in a flash

[vague sail]

sometimes i feel like i am reading a totally different story

from other people that play the same game

[violet vortex]

It happened to my beloved friend

[hot rampart]

yes people have

different reading comprehension

for the better or worse

[violet vortex]

Or just different interpretations

[hot rampart]

yes

[violet vortex]

You could spend 3 hours breaking down every little bad small event that made the situation worse

Or you could look at the 2 major ones

[hot rampart]

i think those 2 major ones is enough to break someone

[vague sail]

oversimplifying something so major

downplays alot

its actual effect on the mental health of someone

[violet vortex]

The thing is she is not special here

[vague sail]

that has been in total psychological control

[violet vortex]

These events happened to everyone in that group

[vague sail]

for a different being

[violet vortex]

They all experienced these same kind of events

[hot rampart]

shes the only one saw that barn tho

?

and her dying freind

[violet vortex]

Frostnova’s whole backstory is this kind of tragedy

[vague sail]

yes but did everyone had a supernatural being push them to the bring

inside their head

[hot rampart]

^

[vague sail]

thats an insanely major factor

[violet vortex]

No, no one else had the magic man

But why would you want her character as she is now

Lacking the magic man

[hot rampart]

i just want to see her "redemption" if thats a possibility for the writer to do

[vague sail]

am not trying to justify her actions in any way

[violet vortex]

Be careful

She may have a couple more bad events

And maybe the magic man returns

Magic woman

Don’t know how you could redeem the character at all

Unless you go the route of she didn’t do anything it was all kash

[hot rampart]

its why i put " "

i just want to see she grows her own character without the magic man

[violet vortex]

Easy

Reference who she was pre the 2nd major event

But add a layer of regret & loneliness

How else would her character grow from it. She was already a freedom fighter and her redemption arc would be returning as a freedom fighter holding the same ideals she did before

But considering both of you also think of the magic man as such a crucial aspect I doubt they won’t continue to be

They’ll just come back

[hot rampart]

magic man is such a crucial aspect through out the story until he is gone

[violet vortex]

He is now a she and is very much the same person

Talulah isn’t stronger now mentally

Arguably

She is weaker

[hot rampart]

yes

she is free from the magic man

now she can build her own character

[violet vortex]

I doubt it

[hot rampart]

she already meet with the magic woman

[violet vortex]

The magic man is already a weird mental/physical being with no clear understanding of what they are capable of

[hot rampart]

i expect that as a sign of her getting free from magic man by not straight up killing her

he is an idea

an ideal

[violet vortex]

I don’t think showing restraint to setting fire to a school

[hot rampart]

i dont think she needs to set the school on fire to kill her but ok

[vague sail]

that was important for her to finally move on

[violet vortex]

Magic woman gonna return

Infect her again

[vague sail]

literally facing her inner demon

[violet vortex]

Inner demon except the demon is still alive and a person

What’s stopping the now female version from returning

[hot rampart]

school responsibility

whats better than grooming 1 children ?

multiple of them

[violet vortex]

But isn’t kash half mental

Talulah’s bad days part 2 is all it takes

[vague sail]

idk why that was so funny

[hot rampart]

dont take it out of context at least

[violet vortex]

Not like she won’t encounter more hardship

[vague sail]

are we even going to reach that point ?

[hot rampart]

with how fast we are going with victoria arc still a long way to go i think

[vague sail]

how far are they going to space the part where the seaborn attack to our current timeline i wonder

[violet vortex]

The initial 180 was triggered from traumatic events
She will experience more traumatic events

I just don’t see what they’d do with a character who had their entire personality shaped around 2 things

Being a freedom fighter

[hot rampart]

live of a gacha story

[violet vortex]

And a mental/physical/godlike entity dude person thing

[hot rampart]

open ended stories and ever expanding scope to keep it going

[violet vortex]

And because they left the latter alive

There is nothing stopping the talulah relapse

[vague sail]

the curse of basing your world building and story around a gacha

where they are forced to sell new characaters

so they have to ship them with a story

[hot rampart]

another day thinking why surtr is popular

[vague sail]

horny

why else

[violet vortex]

Talulah isn’t a shipped off character they just don’t know what to do with them

Surtr is popular for the same reason Skadi & Texas are

[hot rampart]

hot trash?

[violet vortex]

You shape their character around the events that happened around them and the things they do

Rather than any notable character traits

Kind of like current talulah

And she seems to have fans

[hot rampart]

even if u put it that way

surtr is the worst of them

[violet vortex]

I agree

[ebon sphinx]

hot + broken + can be bribed with ice cream

though she's indeed considered a difficult person in universe

[hot rampart]

more reasons to not like her

[wanton stratus]

I hate all well-written female characters

I only want them to be hot

[ebon sphinx]

Why is W popular actually I think people can answer that

[hot rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638192818661228564/1116816735983636511/24x9oz6s9z4b1.png

[violet vortex]

She does stuff in the story
Her merc backstory carries some weight
Defined personality that isn’t just being nice or just being insane

[wanton stratus]

Coomers smh my head

[ebon sphinx]

well, she also hates Doctor for a good reason

[violet vortex]

I hate that dude too

[ebon sphinx]

I too would hate myself too

[violet vortex]

Overhyped office worker

[ebon sphinx]

[violet vortex]

The doctor of our universe is just a really good accountant

[ebon sphinx]

and HR manager and...ok there's quite a list

[wanton stratus]

“It’s too late, Talulah! I already hate myself!

[violet vortex]

That’s implying he was present to talk to that character

[ebon sphinx]

they are suggested to be a huge workaholic who falls asleep spontaneously because of exhaustion

[violet vortex]

He wasn’t

[hot rampart]

regarding doktah its the fate of being a self insert character that have no power at all

[violet vortex]

The problem with the doctor is that they went the route of him being the least impactful part of any group he’s in

But still try to say he’s important

[wanton stratus]

One day they will drop the self-insert angle and actually flesh out the doctor’s character

[hot rampart]

keep huffing that

[violet vortex]

Pre amnesia doctor’s biggest job ended in catastrophic failure

[wanton stratus]

You know you want it too

[hot rampart]

[violet vortex]

How is this man supposed to be important

[ebon sphinx]

I am reminded that pre Singularity in Girls Frontline, Commander was much more of a blank slate self insert. After that, they tend to be more quirky

[violet vortex]

This doctor already is

The man is a clown

[ebon sphinx]

who often has to play sane man to all the weirdos or insanity around

[hot rampart]

we should instead have more story about pre amnesia doktah

then somehow if current doktah remembers his pre amnesia feat

were gonna have a fusion of both that hopefully make him a better character

[wanton stratus]

So you’re telling me there’s a chance…

[vague sail]

we are very few

[violet vortex]

If only he was actually good at what he did pre-amnesia in the first place

[ebon sphinx]

why did Doktah eat Rosmontis's pudding

[wanton stratus]

I remember that one

Very cute

[violet vortex]

So far his accomplishments are:
He’s real good at navigation
He’s a good businessman

The bad:
Strategic prowess has yet to be needed, assuming he really has any
Post-amnesia he is a worse version of himself in every way
Despite being a lead researcher he never comes off as being any more in-the-know than Kal
He has no physical capabilities

[hot rampart]

at least he exercises becuz sideroca forced him to

[violet vortex]

The most benefit of the doubt I could give him regarding strategy is if he’s a good drill instructor like dobberman

And when he’s not around for lore reasons the others are using his pre planned tactics

[ebon sphinx]

as we know he was the one who orchestrated the plan in Breaking the Ice so that SilverAsh doesnt just put Kjerag under a SilverAsh dictatorship + is the lead negotiator and diplomat for the Kazimierz thing

[hot rampart]

a good businessman

[violet vortex]

It’s the downside of a character that is sandwiched between an immortal being & the descendant of important things

Trying to be told he’s important too

[ebon sphinx]

would be better if they showed more of the actual negotiations tho

[violet vortex]

The end of reunion arc was about amiya