#Granblue Fantasy
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Versuvia deals with belial's bullshit 50% elemental shield. Aka, the only reason I can't Fa this raid.
sure i guess but then anthu/sevi has to become fenie and then who gives bar to sandi
So if I had the destruction weapon and versuvia on the side, I could break the shield and go on.
another borken prov summon to no one's surprise
That's what I said
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Could be MC with crimson scales
Fighter origin op
yea i dont have him
And if kengo, with higurashi
i'll have to grind the m3 animas at some point
I believe higurashi counts for sandira
so far i always carried a 2nd bar giver
You can check, in a v2 raid I'm pretty sure with just that she stacks in a few turns
With atum it's easy game even more
i can try siete after reset
with fenie over anthu slot
see if it's enuff bar
then again i could just throw this into hexa solo
that's limitless retry anyway
Fenie atum sandi is definitely enough bar
hmm
well i can try
i honestly never paid attention to the raid mechanics
but fenie getting me past 40 could be the key
but that cant be FA-d
THO
i could just turn off auto on her s3
and treat it like alex summon
and just press it at 40%
6-hit Fire, Water, Earth, Wind, Light, and Dark DMG to all allies
but like there's no diff between agi and fenie here
cause i also have to time agielba
Agielba is almost always in sub mode
yeah
But fenie is all ally sub
almost
You can't have perfect consistency
sheesh
wait i remember now
why i ran anthu over sevil
cause anthu heals 
and shes my sustain
for siete fa
together with atum
i was always super high up until the 10% trigger that cant be canceled
im not sure if atum is enough sustain alone
Fenie is also sustain
i know
but agielba isnt
only for himself
and he only tanks st dmg
not aoe
so i dont think he's the pick for this
Yeah, so manual it is.
You should use it turn 1
i was mostly taking from a siete standpoint
if i wanted to test sandi sevil atum
im not sure atum heal is enough alone
Wait, doesn't sandira's sk3 protect you completely for the turn?
Couldn't you use it for 40%
I'm not sure it's 1 hit
Well, duh
but ig it will be faster with anthu
But then you can run someone that isn't fenie
but if we can live thru 40% with uc
then we dont need fenie at all
so the stacking wont matter
Well, having fenie means you can use sandira's sk3 for the sake of fc gain
Nice
but ye as you say if we just save sandi s3 we just gimp her too much
while saving fenie s3 doesnt gimp her
i'll try this setup first
as for grid uhh
this should be fine
this is my siete grid
and i lived perfectly fine in hexa last time too
just died to 40% from near full hp
I like the mugen swords in case I need to carry
Cs
really?
wilnas axe's main purpose there is to proc lof
wait no im lying
i got ultima axe now
hey i could just throw out that wilnas axe from my siete grid too
i wonder if gw wep would do more there
I believe that's my hexa build
SHIVA BOW
I don't have popgun
but if you had it?
I wouldn't bar it anyway 
okay
The bow is also crit
It completes the grid.
eh im not gonna bar it
That's my own grid, you do your own
There's lotsa choice these days in.grids
cause i run double agni in siete
so exalto lost its purpose
which was to make sg proc with agni x luci
i never know when to include gw wep
anyway i got to 40% safely with this grid before
lets see if i can do it without anthu
oh right
and i gotta take out sun
cause it wont work in hexa
but i dont have go flb
im not even sure if i have go at all
i do
2 copeis huh
i have so many fkin extra lucifers
enough for another mlb
yea only 2 GOs
so thats not gonna hppen
hmm what else coudl we run there
if i cna stay healthy enough i could run soul invoker
Well, exalto is still amazing because 50% echoes goes brrrr
or bubs
that works on ougi too?
tho ig i do a lot of skill hits
hmmmm you'd take out CS for exalto?
but cs is also supp
The added echoes is just solid
But I also don't run the same team
Yup.
But it's good damage
You have to take into account that you have 2 evoker weapons
That's 10%
Cap up, along with the celestial weapon you can either cap or be close enough
The real good part of cs is the supp
But if the supp isn't necessary or isn't as good as another options well it goes
That's why I can use the weapon next to sennen goji, it add with tempering also heal cap up
There's also the fact that being fighter the whole story changes
i guess
Yup
im mostly ougi and skill nukes
Granted, the heal cap of that weapon is super valuable
My ultima axe also has heal cap up on it
hmm well this goes down to the "do i need luci over agni" question
oh right i need to get a healcap ultima
fk
subaka
i still havent done a setup for it
Subaha is easy nowadays
but i guess what we are making now for hexa should work for subaka too
maybe
then i have to think about lof
if i take out cs
for exalto
it fkin falls apart
UNLESS
Oh wait, it isn't that easy for you, I can relatively well execute thanks to esser
i need to make an ultima spear
and then i have 4 spears 
this would be so much easier if i had my 2nd SG
then i could run ult katana
WAIT
higu is a katana 
but i dont wanna swap my ult katana to healcap just ye
i only have 2 ultima weps
Yeah I made a few of those
one for NA one for skillcap
yea cause you can solo subaka prolly
tho i guess i could do it with light
I made them all the same cap up skill, and then my opuses all have the same too
i havent looked into subaka solos at all
That way, I can switch them out whenever I want
Na for ultimas, and skill cap up for opuses
and you never use ca cap for opuses anywhere
guess that makes sense
i could streamline it like that
Yeah, most of the time I cap ougi anyway
but then i have to make the katana the healcap wep
cause axe is key in my burst setups for fire
for lof req
ugh i'd have to look thru all my grids 
do we even use magna opus anywhere in fire anymore?
i kinda just use the primal one cause thats 230
even for 0b burst
I've stopped using magna opuses a good while ago because it's both annoying and unnecessary.
primal having NA amp kek
for ougi team
oh well
i must keep it NA cause it's my burst wep
and breakpoints are more important there
ok no before i make any changes i wanna see if this grid can go to 40% without anthu babysit
just gonna kick sun for soul invoker
i could ss up oro and use him instead but eh
ss too fkin precious if i wanna finish evoker bingo
do i even need mist?
with sandira going down to 40 atk/def down
probably not
ooo
i always forget about the other kengo

but mizuchi and sandira debuffs dont even stack
bitchass fenie refused to get sacked
xd
okay eating her hp away with oug helps
okay fenie died just in time for 40%
6t and im alraedy at 40%
this was so fast xd
whats the diff between solo hexa and raid hexa besides less hp?
the jinxes are the same?
i think im zooming by jinxes
and thats what kills me xd
oh wait no i was using too many skills i think

no im serious
so reading the main raid guide
should apply to solo too?
i need to do this without refreshes
something axed me at 30%ish
Ah, after 40%?
there was no omen at all
i cancelled the 18 Ca omen
then the dispel omen
and then i died

from full fucking hp?
Yup
It just obliterates you if you're not careful and have too many stacks
this is fast enough anywaay
Jinxes also means you're getting shanked if you're not careful
i get to 40% in sub6 turns
does mist even stack with her?
Well, yeah
isnt 40% the max
It's 50%
But mainly, mist mist is intant 25% def and atk down
fine fine
i'll check it one more time
but i think you might be right
and siete grid is too paper for this
post-40
Yup.
and i'll need to swap to mugen swords
grid being too high on dmg makes me sweep past jinxes too
Yeah, checks out
You absolutely want to do all those 2 m omens
Every single one not exceptions
Because missing even one means hexa gets hyperbuffed
This.
The bottom pretty much says it all
yea ew
you need to see them but with ele switch you can get around the jinxes so long that you clear the one that inflicts the same jinx as your switch.
Miss 1 omen and you fight a double strike hexa who ignores def boosts
Miss 2 and you're dealing no damage
Miss 3 and you're dead
yeah fine
what are the cancel reqs for these
guide doesnt say
at jinxes
is this the 2m hits x times thing?
missing 3 means you're leeching tbf
True and real
Of 2 m damage?
Nice.
atum has a base cap of 2.9m
this is whithout any cap mods
higu's is way lower but you grind up the cap
but even without
atum is 10 hits solo
- 5ougis all hit above 2m
so thats easily 15 hits
plus all of sandira s1s are above 2m
but honestly this might all be thanks to me running nearly a full cap up grid
oh it's 170???
Higu going above 2 m with a 170 k nuke?
That would do BASELINE 17 m
then i guess it was atum+ougis

You could race with this
Well, the ougi is 2.9 m
it's worse than higus
and i somehow misread it
and thought the hits were the buffed number
Yuuuuup.
and it wasnt an actual cancel?
huhhh
no i mean
we looked at the numbers now
and this doesnt add up
i shouldnt even be able to deal 2m hits with this team
tho fk i know
i have so much capup maybe it does hti that much
I mean, did you have the jinxes debuffs?
i'll check again
i dont know
i didnt know about them yet
i'll check now
also fenie s3 t1 is stupid
cause sandi gives uc
so you waste the sub

well not necessarily
it is a perfect synergy
when you actually wanna tank it
but not have fenie die
Chat, we're cooked
yep
i just sweep past the jinx too fast

i didnt even see the omen
alr we have our answer then why this grid is not good
too much dmg
there's stable zoos FA clear for this but it needs vikky
rip
but the real raid solo team uses sandi sevil atum
so that means they do get past the 2m jinxes somehow
despite these nukes looking like low numbers on paper
you can guard past the jinxes you dont care about.
the jinxes are not the problem
it's the buffs hexa gets post-40
cause i skipped the jinxes
that is the problem

guard if you need to slow down a bit. the important thing is always seeing the jinxes.
ye my mistake was having a single turn go from 91% to below 80% so i went by the first jinx
and that grid for raid solo worked cause it was used on the real raid not the solo version so it had more hp
if i use that same grid i just outdmg the jinx triggers
Speed, the only time people wait is like 40%.
If you're dead or can't clear the pearl, use the sorry sticker.
but solo needs a more "underpowered" grid
otherwise you go too fast and skip past the jinxes
Use nukes/guard up
Guarding up eats up a turn to get your cds ready
You pretty much do the same with the coop version.
alr i cooked it up
this is now stable
never thought i'd use tikoh frontline
but this is what fiflet life is
tho im sure there is a better slot for vajra's i just went with her 
cause idunno who the better slot woudl be

tho wait i could do zoos x luci now cause i got 250 zoos
that's even more cleanse
and then i could try ama over tikoh
ik it's not that deep
hmm i guess? i didnt think of just guarding as a pause
cause i wanted to stack up atum asap
i think i'll just stop hosting diaspora until the free host shit is gone
cause nobody is fkin joining again
3rd day in a row
and yall are never here to join either
so
better just not host xd
alr tried sevil over anthu
yea the dmg is more equally distributed this way
and it's 1 whole turn faster 
and yes atum healing is enough
aaa i want a second sg so bad
i would have sparked it but sandira didnt wanna drop
so next time
i kinda wanna ring atum actually
also @cunning mist with my current grid the higu 10hit is 1.6m each
which tbh is pretty respectable
but yea it's not 2m
Yeah, that 2 m is a hard barrier
anyway i like this team
but this cant do hexa unless i sit on that sandira s3
which i wont do
fenie is fine
just gotta figure out the grid for it
hm?
And FC becomes so good thanks to that
Free 20% supp? for a whole 2 turns and gets stacked fast? Jesus that's good
Instead of just 30 hits
im just not sure where im using fraux with sandi

i guess hexa if fenie dies again
@cunning mist does celes m3 ignore debuff immune?
Yeah.
Yeah, had a hard time with it
ah no it's very simple
with tikoh
but i wanted to replace her with someone who does more dmg
but ig i cant
i'll stick with the current team then
i am unable to fully FA yugu surprisingly
any setup i looked at that wasnt like 20million turns
i miss something for it
hlich, enyo, 150 nio ehhh
i tried ewi bampi ami
but i just kinda dropped dead
tho i think i should run luci
and then im not in that much danger
i saw a randall grim ami clear
but that was like a million years to do
looked at my water
chile
barely anything left to call magna here
running levi to boost those 2 poor aubs
Reminds me I should farm water one day
I've started, but I certainly haven't finished
i should just commit to vroon
really
i have everything
even the bars
so idk why the hesitation
Because it's a lot of bars
It's like me with earth, I know I should already bar the 2 sieg weapons and 2 corals
But I kinda don't wanna
IT'S 12 FUCKING BARS
welcome to primal ig?
But yeah, I'm going to do it... Surely.
My retirement fund

Why not?
I'm also interested in shishio and I have a bad water
Well, serviceable.
Funny but I dreamed of GBF a few hours ago
grandpa fell asleep on the couch
Of lancer class with blazing mistral and sandira
I have real sleeping issues these days
And that blazing mistral would have insane synergy with lancer origin
And all that waiting would have been worth it
i dont think i'll buy shisio in any case
i love crazy smol bitch
so i'd rather just play md
I wonder how fast I can get 70 gold moons
To have 300
Tbh, if I bar all that for earth...
and then there's the extra zoos hl weps that i never finishied
Argh
like cosmos harp, zoi staff etc
My real issue with earth is that galleon sticks are still the best stuff for hard content
thats not even true
I mean, isn't it the baseline?
it's old
it's like sayin agni burst baseline is ixabas
ye it was the baseline at some point
not anymore
caim grid is just better
Well that's exagerated
quwatoro said so
ixabas is YEARS behind
and showed the graphs and shit
well i dont have another example
cause dirt is the only ele where the whole grid changes
I guess that's fair
Hm.
Then I guess I shouldn't feel bad about grabbing andromeda
I've never played aga in my life tho
wtf
oh
I don't care about mk2 at all
hows ur light?
Dogshit
A relic of another time
this is why i like to run a real FA comp for shit
so i dont have to look at it
omaigoto
it's 2018 again
okay fine 2022 cause harmo
but
The characters carry so hard
ULLI
Sadly, they nerfed settes of ele
oh did they?
If I remember right, yeah
But the characters are real fine tho
And frankly, they matter so much more than the grid it's not even fair
hm i gotta cook a fully stable aga FA
I also noticed that my dark didn't get THAT much better after getting a full grid
ye the improvements arent that huge
I'd say, good grids matter only for real hard raids, and that still doesn't trump the characters
In principle, the magna fists are quite great
Stuff like that
Yeah, it's too convenient
yee but for what
Anything that requires burst and dark
nothing that my fire cant brute
ye but theres no such thing
cause i dont farm light shit
True
im done with my cosmos farming days
nowdays i just host for the revans mat
and thats it
i dont do joins anymore
It's just a convenient thing to have on the side.
yea i'll buy it if i need it
but havent needed it so far
honestly sometimes i think i'd rather just buy more damas
or a sierotix

I didn't have anything else to buy. And blazing looked too dogshit to grab.
And I thought that my dark needed a bit of help
Which is true, so a lack of regret from me.
It's like hrunting for earth
1 more sette away from havin 4 flb
Weapon's amazing, you don't really need a reason to grab it
oh yeah i got hrunt prematurely
i dont even play it
i only use kengo for dirt cause i only use dirt for dia and levi
and for dia i lack the roster for the non-host setups
and the grid too tbh
so kengo is all thats left
and old caim grid can still do that just fine
same with levi
it's just carried by okto and vmoni
I'm considering andromeda and shishio. Otherwise, rhompaia and blazing
But those last 2 is based on lancer origin
Technically the weapons are good since the buff
But they're not...
They're not special ?
Kinda.
I'm probably grabbing andromeda for GW tho.
I know I want it.
If I had bhaisa
well do it
I could do the 0b 12c
i need to count how many bars i need for vroon exactly
Meh, I'd rather wait for the last second. Kinda like barring the grid.
ofc
thats smart
only commit when needed
it's so funny that cosmos is such a shithole raid that even after all this time theres barely any good full fa solo setups
siete is a fair lad
i remember my first ever solo clear
sweating with agielba

oh shit
WE HAVE ROTB
i totally missed that
i need to finish recruiting the saints
so thats uhh shenxian slapping
Wammy's the goat
tho i still havent figured out wtf to put in grid for her to hit 60k hp if i cant get a 250 agni supp
but honestly the 60k is only about the auto s1 no?
Yup
Yup, but 1 button gets annoying fast
yeah it does
hmm
hmmmmmmm
i could put her on defense awa

or just really find a wep into the grid
that has some hp on it
icarus sword but i dont have it
oo
Because I have 10 rings
no i mean
And because I tested stuff
hm
I also had an artifact with hp for a time, but it's not necessary with every team
This one doesn't need it
oh YEAH
i have the arti on her
thats why
she hits 60k
with bubz x 250 agni
and this
Makes sense.
well i had to
Wait
Can't you reset the artifact?
And relevel it?
Because the levels are weird
Like look
You have one skill level 2 at level 5, and I have 2 3s at level 5
I think you changed a skill
And forgot to reset and relevel
I mean, that's bound to be better
it's probably the 2nd best artifact result
where do we get the rest mat?
before i go on a rampage and use them all on this one
Ye
Oh yeah
They modified the artifact stuff
Now it recommends the best artifacts for the character
That's why I have that skill at the front
hmm so you think i'd be better off with agni x agni and lofless grid?
I dunno.
well imma go test in a sec
I think both work, because lof has special cap up
But I do believe lofless is with a slight margin
it's the TA
And the advantage of being able to run 2 skill cap weapons
Yeah
actually hmm
i could swap my ixaba for a sg
i totally forgot ixaba was in there

ah no nvm i remember why
ixaba is there for the TA
more neko consistency
ixaba ver
oh SG beats it
well
that is if neko TAs ๐
68 TA
eh
maybe the 10% from ixaba doesnt make or break anything
so sennen might just be better overall
theres a lot of skilldmg here too
so makes sense
rather than banking on TAs
oh wammy's ring is bad
actually
i was thinking
if i ss up soul invoker
i can get rid of belial
and then no hp cut

and then i can take even lower agni
or even a drop a lof
oh shit i had YATIMA in this grid instead of devil wtf
99m with 2 lof+sg
and 250 agni
yeah this definitely beats poor ixaba
@cunning mist do you also run neko there?
but bubzless so low TA
hmm swapping 1 lof out to suntana is 98m vs 99m so like incredibly close
however it's like 1k more hp
sadly if i take out the 2nd lof it goes down to 53k hp
and if i take out belial it's 59267
lul SO CLOSE
if i ring her
then she goes above
I have like 10 rings
why tf does she have TA emp node when shes a guaranteed TA char
wtf
trashhh
i guess i COULD ring her
but then i have to do the tests all over again
i mean why not i have 6 rings
atum will get one i think eventually
yea lets see
Yeah, but who cares
I'll live
Small majesty, big magna
Countered by hrunting too
what is countered
ur supposed to do spec awa on it
for more cap
and without mk you only get the base 5 cap
not na cap
yeah with ring wammy gets to 61k hp
with bubz x 250
and no lofs
I mean the damage
the wep is needed to keep hrunt up
Yeah
it's synergy not counter
Well, hrunting also reduces the damage so I'd say hrunting counters but the fang has synergy
hm 99m dmg
so this arrived at the same spot as 2lof+sg
with bubz+agni 250
and this can run 230 agni still
wammy will still be above 60k
this is with belial removed ofc
with belial i cant do any of this 
not even 250 agni is enough then
but it's 5k supp diff
for belial
so i think i will just skip him
and go for consistency
makes sense cause pig ender adds another 25k supp so we get to 50k with that
lof+pig+sg arrived at 99m too
kek these are all the fking same
tho wait it could be the random crits
aaaahhh fkin hell
i hate inconsistency
yea belial doesnt raelly make a difference here anymore
5k supp only
Yeah.
in return i have to go for 250 agni
so i'll just go 0* soul invoker instead
2lof 1g with soul invoker is still 98m
like how are these all the same
lof sun sg seems like the weakest combo here
Galewing I mean
It's pure burst
with such low TA on neko
i know boo
but you could do the same thing
with bubz agni
and have consistency
ah wait you dont have soul invoker
I believe it's not 0 button
it is
Yeah, it's a manadiver setup
I mean,that's the grid for it
@dusky terrace that what you can do with guarding
For 0 button it's slightly different
0button it's always neko
over md
imo
or is my info old and outdated

but 0button neko just gets the echo
by existing
Md is more burst and passes some thresholds
But my 0 button grid is similar to yours
And it's neko too
Well, there's summons that give crest baseline
But I don't have those
But yeah, my 0 button grid uses lof
Yeah, lof is still really good
with 2lof havnig leeway of not needing 250 agni
It's still competitive while still getting hp and def and all
๐
what do you do for shenxian tho