i thought tales gives the bonus stuff
#Granblue Fantasy
fierce python
Extra exp
strong viper
The boost are multiplied
cunning mist
Boost of the bar on the side
cunning mist
Also, more defenders
Which is pretty nice
Plus yeah, 600% exp
It's quite insane and really makes you rank up/level fast
strong viper
Huh
Diaspora is pretty dead at this hour
dusky terrace
sigh
fierce python
Getting like 300k exp per defender
dusky terrace
i was busy with irl stuff
cunning mist
It's ok
21 hours
Or maybe later there'll be something of the same kind... in a few months.
fierce python
Feels good to be r350 
with all the boosts I was ranking up every hour
on top of the arcarum mats
first time I'm actually capped before anni
cunning mist
Ok, I can confirm that farming here be swords is better for astras and ideans
A bit worse than staves for veritas but we knew that.
fierce python
bingo in 3 days
cunning mist
I need rotb and to farm forever
Those animas
And I'll have 3 more 150
Actually, I need 30 lindwurm scales.
For 3
fierce python
going to brick my account getting Uno 150 but I'm like 3 blue papers ahead
strong viper
Bro clicked on the wrong button
fierce python
FaaHL pubs hitting the wings 
cunning mist
The reality of truth.
Gotta understand. People aren't used to faa
Bet you that superfaa will have something like, "can't go under 50% if wings are still alive"
And will need to drop under 70% before killing the wings otherwise he destroys you or something
fierce python
he'll probably have 8bil hp
cunning mist
And he'll obviously have his labors at 50% wings
Oh, and you have to kill belial before
lilac mountain
aside from the obvious second dinger what improvements can i make to kengo mugen grid?
fierce python
100k damage on entry 
lilac mountain
no its 50-60k according to the wiki
fierce python
I meant for superFaa
fierce python
aside from the obvious second dinger what improvements can i make to kengo mugen...
shouldn't matter as long you can loop with Haase and Wamdus
cunning mist
The moon weapon is also so good with haas. Free 50 % Attack with the moon
lilac mountain
haas only mlb
cunning mist
Oh, and 30% damage cap too
That weapon really pairs up insanely well with its evoker.
Hm, yes.
scenic creek
my earth defenders are starting to pile up too
cunning mist
Got my astras, missing 30 veritas.
lilac mountain
I already got 1 flb mugen sord with the team so i know its good
cunning mist
lilac mountain
just mostly looking to optimize
scenic creek
370 veritas, 260 astra, 230 ideans... 🥲
lilac mountain
The only one i did this damn grind for is fraux. And partially for borgar more so for the weapon
scenic creek
it should have been 320 veritas but i took into account how the final domain unlock for evoker uh
wants 50 veritas
lilac mountain
is there a sticker that conveys the need for a debuff summon?
diaspora is being a dick
vast iron
pbhl
vast iron
ok, so it's 3m or nothing now?
so far I only have 3 - 4 blue chest drops
after 275 horns
I am consistently doing over 2.5m
vast iron
lilac mountain
Bitch would sooner drop a sands than the axe. For fucks sake Ra 
scenic creek
vast iron
dusky terrace
bro fucking akasha is dead
it's tales. everybody is at tales, or lastminute doin the collab missions
steep gulch
yeah farming for haase/caim/Alanaan is much higher on people's priority currently than going GB racing.
scenic creek
like me 
scenic creek
the way i see it....its kind of like this
"What happens when the Tales of Arcanum missions are over? Dont you know? That's when Tales of Arcanum starts"
cyan loom
dont think ive touched tales outside of the missions
cunning mist
I don't think there's anything else to touch
Well, the shop
40 nwq is sweeeet
It's probably why I had 400 nwq
scenic creek
I don't think there's anything else to touch
mind if i ask what is your node of choice for farming...uh, all 3 idean, astra and veritas?
cunning mist
I believe slapping the sword one is better.
Here's the topo
Staves for pure veritas
Sword for a bit of astras ideans and veritas
Mundus for heavy variation but high return of 3 different summons
Like, mundus can give 3 veritas at once on defenders
But it's between 3 different ones and it doesn't happen everytime
Question is whether you slap defenders or not. I believe it's way higher chance of astras and ideans, but vastly slower.
scenic creek
i think the idean drop rates are ass even with all the boosters...blah
cunning mist
Yes.
Astras is ok tho.
And you can get ideans from boxes
If you have 999 boxes you may get 100 ideans or more
And definitely enough astras
Still got a few hours to try for 999 boxes
scenic creek
still 3 more days even
cunning mist
Tonight the magfest event ends
So the bonus to bar for boxes ends tonight on that side
cyan loom
wheee
cunning mist
Powaaaaah
cunning mist
The 7th sword pog
fierce python
water team too strong to make me care enough for these
cunning mist
I don't need them anyway
I've got them
200 + when I've already done both evokers
strong viper
water team too strong to make me care enough for these <:KEKHands:81903639671406...
Actually me yesterday
Bursted the hell out of the boss
Then remember these mission exist
cunning mist
166 ideans to go, so need 83 NWQ and then 80 more for the uncaps themselves. On 403 NWQ I go down to 260 NWQ.
Pretty alright.
Granted, I can just wait
And do arca runs after a few months
strong viper
Buy hrunting
cunning mist
Become the hrunter.
dusky terrace
im looking to just daily host
also i still dont believe in galleon-less hrunt
on a basic caim grid
cunning mist
Well I sure do believe in it
strong viper
Daily host doesn't really need defensive build
cunning mist
Like holy shit i'm believing
dusky terrace
Daily host doesn't really need defensive build
does it not
well i died last time
so i think it does
strong viper
Should be good to go if you got Okto
dusky terrace
strong viper
Unless Dias decided to be an asshole and spam you with petrify
dusky terrace
idunno
strong viper
I fucking hate it when that happens
dusky terrace
it was on FA
i do have 150 gm for hrunt or eresh tho
im just really not convinced by the grid
strong viper
My host grid is just bunch of magna good stuff
strong viper
I just smash random stuff and add galleon gun
Also the NWF doesn't really needed here
fierce python
lilac mountain
Okay so i just looked at my mats and im 80 astra, 80 veritas and 110 ideans away from flb burger since i already got his weapon maxed
the ideans are gonna be a bitch
cyan loom
rhomp being accurately assessed im shocked
i think its the next best weapon after the top 3 since its only conditional for more damage is easy to hit
fierce python
Hrunting's dot damage is negligible
dusky terrace
ah even he mentions that hrunt i mostly a galleon grid wep
but workable
also tested sevil
pretty pog
hes a more defensive silva
but makes the party really fucking tanky
with 50% atk and def up
imma test him on siete raid
no emps yet obviously
cunning mist
Yes
dusky terrace
alr
pubbed at 4m
still got mvp
got the other sword
idk if that'ss good for anything
oh wait
i got both
in the same drop
nice
sevil needs those emps but he did pretty well
im satisfied
dusky terrace
oh relink is coming in a week?
lilac mountain
cunning mist
Oh shit
ancient imp
Wait brutal cell is just h.lich shit? 
cunning mist
More like michael
strong viper
Michael at home
It's bunch of CA support huh
Imagine if they decided to give new skill for NA shenanigans
fierce python
"Why is Yamato still locked for v2" 
safe bough
Siete 2
dusky terrace
can someone gimme an athena militis fa grid and comp plx
one that doesnt involve pos
cause all yt vids do
@cunning mist what do u run for this?
cunning mist
Dog
dusky terrace
so kengo
cunning mist
Ye
cunning mist
And the book that gives veil at the start
dusky terrace
im running the event book
cunning mist
It's bad imo, but you don't have the good books complete yet.
dusky terrace
this is what i have
or i can do aubs
frostnettle
and 1 wamdus spear
and add kris over 2nd colomba that i dont have
i should go aubs
i need the hp
steep gulch
unlocking the final weapon slot should be a priority for you. this would allow you to insert one more extra slot weapon like say another arca gun making crits even easier.
steep gulch
thats zone mundos yeah. just beat all the defenders once.
dusky terrace
alr done
cunning mist
Infinite power
dusky terrace
yea this cleared nicely
tales missions done
@cunning mist is the tales shop usually emptied?
i assume so
fierce python
for people lacking mats yes
strong viper
Tales shop are extremely cheap
So just get everything
dusky terrace
aye
just dunno what to farm
i need everything
next goal should be to get haase and geisen
and then alanaan and haase flb
fierce python
just dunno what to farm
pins
dusky terrace
kay
i should farm water stuff cause i need water stuff
but the water book is so bad
shcokwave is great
however i could farm togehter demolition book
cause that's tied to water stuff
and it's a good book for water
dusky terrace
the militis boss spawns in mundus can be stacked too right?
im doin the book missions now
steep gulch
yes they can.
dusky terrace
yea i just found out myself
good
and non-sun related stuff still drops medals
just slower
alr
i'll focus on grinding out the book missions then
dusky terrace
do we get katz tales anytime soon?
steep gulch
probably in like 1-2 months after this one.
dusky terrace
ugh no
not waitign that long
militis dies so slowly
i'll just grind it over time
while doin other stuff
cyan loom
i mean anni will be there so you’ll be back
dusky terrace
i mean anni will be there so you’ll be back
i'll finish the books asap
so it makes the grind faster
everything gives medals anyway
i'll leave the militis stuff for last
torn turret
Man
the new Masquerade UM skills are honestly really good
But realistically youre only gonna be able to run 1 at a time due to the Teamwide Double Strike skill
cunning mist
Oh shit, martial choreography actually looks good
Effectively Assassin every turn holy shit
And spiral turn is a really solid dispel. Hell yeah.
That masquerade UM is really pushing for the illustrious dagger
Well.
If thunderstruck was a thing
torn turret
If thunderstruck was a thing
hey i mean it technically is
we just really need. a better like, payoff.
because you stack it VERY fast
but the payoff rn outside of Futsunomitama is like
- more skillcap
- doublecast of Levin Sisters s1 ( at 5)
- the fourth skill of the Sisters gives all allies the 3 turns guaranteed TA (has a 3/9 uptime) (if at 10)
- Monika gets 50% assassin for 1 whole time on s3 (if at 10)
and none of these are that good
also for some reason Arthur has Thunderstruck?
and even got the shitty 50% chance for 1 Thunderstruck on ougi as his EMP?
Despite having. nothing
that cares about Thunderstruck
safe bough
hey i mean it technically is
we just really need. a better like, payoff.
Grand Albert 
fierce python
cunning mist
I would believe Assassin every turn to be stronger
Even has auto supp
Honestly, every skill of UM masquerade is good
Spiral turn being 3 turn cd for big dispels and on the waltz being a teamwide cap up
torn turret
Grand Albert <:ForteCOPIUM:858357206968959007>
id prefer like
idk, a Jeno release or Arthur flb
not necessarily a Grand needed
Not even a Style Swap for Albert, either
Since Albert is... fine, just kind of doesnt work well in FA
Him and the Sisters are what allow you to stack up Thunderstruck so quickly
There's just not like, a solid third character with a good payoff to put in
Doesnt help that half of the Thunderstruck characters are in Elements with virtually 0 support for them
(Like how Dark Alberts only other possible sources of Thunderstruck to make him quicker are uh. The JJK boys very bad skill 2 and MC)
torn turret
i mean yeah like
Obviously its not meta
It's just like, a fun team
And personally i think Fun is more important than Meta
If your fun is in Meta, then thats awesome, too!
Its just like.
As an Albert fan i feel sad at how "almost there" the Thunderstruck team is (doesnt help that one of the key players is a 150gm weapon)
torn turret
Its just like.
As an Albert fan i feel sad at how "almost there" the Thunderstru...
Basically rn the 5 (by the way, why are there only 5? Why not 1 for every Element) "stack to 10" statuses feel like this:
Singed - Literally only exists in Fire outside of MC and Toga, which is good. Pretty good stacking, pretty good payoff. Helps that 1 of those Payoffs is G.Percy, who you'd want to have anyway. Only real complaint is that Anna has no way to reduce her S3 cooldown.
Glaciate: Exists mainly in Water outside of 2 Earth chars in AgloTor and C.Europa (and C.Lily in light). In terms of water, it has the best stacking out of all of these, and also the best payoff on average, with Filene doing 4mil+ nukes on every cast of a skill that does glaciate. Very clicky, though. Also surprisingly has a decent amount of different team options you can run, depending on whether or not you want heavy sustain with Lily, or free damage + a bit of sustain with Erin, or want to gamble on Cupitan, etc.
Main downside is basically 0 teamwide multiattack buffs outside of MC, but one of your other very strong payoffs is G.Lance, who's more than fine in that regard.
The Earth one is honestly not too bad either, just needs a third char or something to help stacking more.
Tuning: Ignoring Baal in Earth, Wind only. Pretty much just has Caro, Selfira and Cantate as the team, since while Nio is okay, she doesnt benefit the team that much. Decent Stacking, pretty damn solid payoff though. Does more or less force you to run Elysian, though, if you wanna go all the way, but is probably not worth the trouble. (Maybe the Elysian tier 5 will work with it, who knows.)
Toxicosis: This uh. Yeah no. Dark technically has the most, but outside of Azazel, there's 0 real stackers. Wam stacks it well enough in Water, but there's no synergy there. The only toxicosis synergy in dark is Tanya getting a bit of MA, which is. No.
Worst of the statuses by far
cunning mist
Thunderstruck is like third
torn turret
Basically rn the 5 (by the way, why are there only 5? Why not 1 for every Elemen...
Thunderstruck: Mainly in Light, but everyone except Fire has at least 1 source. Light's stacking is pretty good, with Albert and the Sisters getting it up very quickly with autocasts and normal attacks respectively.
The main problem lies in the fact that every Light Thunderstruck character is overall only "okay", and the only real payoff is locked behind a 150 GM weapon, since stuff like Sisters giving the entire team 3turn guaranteed TA, doublecasting s1, or the skill specs and 1-time echo from Monika is really not all that good. Since G.Percy and G.Lance were good payoffs for their respective statuses, surely whatever Arthur gets next will help us
Water has 3 characters who do Thunderstruck, but they can never ever seriously stack, nor do they have synergy. Why is it there.
Wind Thunderstruck has 2 characters, with NamiRobin and S.Eustace, and while their stacking is okay, they're both just kinda... mid? And there's no real payoff to stacking besides giving Eustace's 10 turn cd skill 2 CA reactivation. Would need support too.
Dark Thunderstruck has D.Albert and the JJK boys, but pretty much only D.Albert since the JJK boys provide too little in terms of Thunderstruck. So D.Albert is just kinda stuck doing everything Thunderstruck himself, and while he's pretty decent at it, he REALLY wants another person with the status so he can actually get off his benefits in any reasonable time. Doesnt help that he cant reduce the cd of s2 or s3, and instead got the shittiest EMP known to man
cunning mist
Singed is probably first due to being on G percy. And glaciate is the best overall but with less payoff.
torn turret
Singed is probably first due to being on G percy. And glaciate is the best overa...
Glaciate arguably has more payoff than Singed
G.Percy is of course broken as hell, which helps out, and the passive does inflict 6 hit dmg amplified, but the only other thing he gets is the doublecast of s1, which is good, but he cant reduce the cd
cunning mist
It is a 4 m nuke
And the fact that indeed, he's broken
Makes it more relevant in those cases, unlike water that just doesn't care 90% of the time
torn turret
Anna has the same issue that D.Albert does where her payoff skill has no way to reduce its cooldown, but has the benefit of actually having support
cunning mist
Glance has arguably a better payoff
torn turret
Yeah like
The Singed payoff isnt that good
cunning mist
But the lack of debuffing is a problem
torn turret
Or rather than saying "isnt that good"
cunning mist
is really amazing
torn turret
Like
The payoff you get for using Singed from Percy is good
But it's by putting him in a team where his s3 is a lot worse
though i suppose it does trigger Bakugo's autocast, huh.
cunning mist
Well, his singed ability has synergy with s3
The nuke works on s3
It's every attack, not every turn
So it even works with sun
Silva nuke
And so on and so forth
That's the difference. The payoff really really matters
torn turret
But yeah no i think its like
Tossup between Glaciate and Singed as the best of the statuses overall
Glaciate has the additional benefit of not requiring a Grand to have a good payoff
Since Filene, while leading to clicky gameplay, does a lot of big nukes
torn turret
After those two i'd say its Tuning
its a set in stone 3 person team but its a pretty solid one
Fourth is Thunderstruck - all of the characters are only ok at best and the payoff requires you to spend 150 GM on it
and toxicosis doesnt exist so its fifth by default
Thunderstruck perplexes me the most because like
They keep spreading it around to other elements, with synergy gained from the Debuff (not just doing an incidental stack like how Water Thunderstruck is), and then leave those characters to rot
cunning mist
They have no idea what they're doing pretty much.
Singed won't receive much support too. Precisely because Gpercy and wilnas are too good. Oh, another note is that singed stacking really fast thanks to wilnas is also a big deal.
cunning mist
Well damn.
torn turret
They have no idea what they're doing pretty much.
i think its especially curious that we dont have 6 of these debuffs
Each Element could have their own to focus on, much like how crests are, but with the actual potential to branch out (as seen frankly kinda decently with Earth Glaciate)
Singed for Fire, Glaciate for Water, Thunderstruck for Light, Tuning for Wind, Toxicosis for Dark and then 1 more for Earth
cunning mist
It's probably coming with vane with the whole package
torn turret
A recurring trend ive also seen is
The best payoff usually is something that is autoactivated or gained passively, naturally, but payoffs on skills arent bad either
The problem just lies that half the payoff skills - like Anna s3, S.Eustace S2, D.Albert S2 (and by extension s3) - have no way to naturally reduce their cooldown
So theyre stuck at like, 7+ turn cooldowns for skills that are some of your main payoffs
cunning mist
Yup.
That's probably why the Glance, Gpercy, Illustrious dagger are the best payoff.
torn turret
also the recent EMPs theyve given out to Arthur and D.Albert are just
mighty shit
cunning mist
They're ridiculous
torn turret
first of all i dont know why arthur got it
yes his s1 does thunderstruck but he doesnt even have synergy
Second off
fifty percent for one stack
You couldve at least guaranteed it!
torn turret
They're ridiculous
i think its especially funny when you compare D.Alberts EMP to the EMPs of his other two SSR versions
OG got an EMP that circumvented one of his biggest downsides - though not fully - guaranteed, 100% of the time (outside of the circumstances where you need to hit guard)
S.Albert didnt get that, but instead got a 100% chance to end the cooldown of his delay + wind def down s1 on ougi
D.Albert has this baseline, but instead of getting like, "Chance for 1-turn cut to damage skills cooldown" or "second skill's cooldown" (which would be best at 100% obviously), which would be in line with og albert
Nah you gotta give him that 50% chance for 1 thunderstruck on ougi
which
considering anna has much the same skill setup as d.albert
im thinking shell probably get this for singed lmao
torn turret
even as an Albert fan I'd prefer it to be Arthur, actually
because uh.
Albert is kind of the best way we stack Thunderstruck
1-3 thunderstruck every turn, guaranteed, even if you have to guard or ougi
(also btw, just wanna mention this - base albert gets 50% 3 turn echo on ougi, while his alts are stuck with the 20% from his pre-uncap ougi for no reason)
cunning mist
He'll probably be a grand anyway. I actually doubt we'll get a grand arthur.
Or at least, for quite a while
torn turret
idt we'll get a light grand anytime soon
safe bough
Light suffering in hexa 
cunning mist
They don't care that much, so it may just happen
cunning mist
Yeup.
torn turret
I think itll probably be like
next DK event we get Grand Vane (in Wind, probably, so Siegfried can be the Earth one), and/or SSR Arthur will get his flb
Maybe Lamorak is released idk
obviously they could just be kinda dummy but i think its sus that they put the 50% thunderstruck on ougi thing on Arthur, who has no Synergy with it
cunning mist
Arthur does have the option of FLB. So that's probably gonna be the path taken.
torn turret
At some point we'll also have to get that other design for Cupitan from Unbound Asterism released (he says, knowing full well we never got the sumo guy)
Hopefully a FLB that turns her s3 into a red skill, but could be a Grand too
fierce python
fierce python
strong viper
strong viper
Huh
Now that i think about it
RB UM3 is a good skill for your belial solo
Only need batteries for it to be consistent
cunning mist
Indeed.
cunning mist
Any of them you want, they're just fillers to me
steep gulch
you grab them based on their voltage as filler mostly.
torn turret
which militis weps do i need?
You dont really need any of them anymore, since Pallas Militis got powercrept by the GW Sword
I'd say the Dark Staff is one of the more important ones, for like, Fire Ougi grids
Since those stack Staves
dusky terrace
I'd say the Dark Staff is one of the more important ones, for like, Fire Ougi gr...
not agni
all agni needs is popgun and wilnas axe
to hit that 7.2m
fierce python
I saw sword, wind fist, light harp and water bow usage
Very uncommon though
They fit in the extra slot at least
Which gets replaced by NWF weapons, Ultima Ulb and upgraded draconics
And world harps
cyan loom
militis weps will get replaced by celestial weps
9/10 they’re used for the voltage and the 1/10 are the niche use cases their supplemental effect targets
cunning mist
And at best they're there just because they can be put in one of the extra slots
Filler by definition almost. Granted, if they ever get 4* maybe that won't be the case.
cyan loom
could use the world idean sink
cyan loom
3/6
fierce python
losing faith in coop rooms
cunning mist
Yum.
fierce python
0/20 the past week
fierce python
cyan loom
😮
fierce python
MT will surely be core in SuperFaa 
cyan loom
crew train went swimmingly today
dusky terrace
i wish fkin dama crystal wasnt needed so much
hollow moss
cunning mist
Woooh.
fierce python
Granblue TV Channel - January 28, 2024
・Europa (Grand) FLB (February 6th)
・Tower of Babyl Rerun (February 7th)
・Next week guest: Satou Takuya (Lu Woh)
scenic creek
they can always surprise us!
cunning mist
But they're clearly not the absolute best of what we could expect
I mean even grim is a bit on the fence like shiva
Very defensive, lotsa damage
But not enough in any one side
fierce python
Shiva flb was used in last year's gw
fierce python
Wasn't used this year
cyan loom
grimnir just needs ramp which we’ve moved past
he might see use in super luci but he isnt used in hexa so 
fierce python
safe bough
but the shiva one was
Complete opposite for me
Shiva felt huge with Michael but grim has no synergy unit yet
safe bough
Full heal s4 saved my early siete days too
cyan loom
problem with europa is that haaselia exists so if she doesnt synergize with her and gab then 
fierce python
Yep 
deft venture
Does anyone have a clip or vid of the Rebelwear skin ?
since some already play rising
dusky terrace
the Grimnir FLB was pretty good imo
what is he used for tho
he doesnt seem to cut it for any team
i mean hes not bad
but hes not really a top contender for anything so hes not really further than he was before
torn turret
what is he used for tho
Im using him bc i dont have V.Grim
Now, this is just me FAing Galleon with a "not quite finished" grid but
He's not too shabby
Need to test how he stacks up vs g.narm later
dusky terrace
Im using him bc i dont have V.Grim <:KEKW:818462009321586741>
ah yea ig
but i have vgrim
so i have no use for him sadly
torn turret
so i have no use for him sadly
this is an issue i have with them releasing alts of characters in the same Element, by the by
Like, sure, usually the originals werent that good anymore anyway - like with Lance and Percy - but like
Grim is a perfectly servicable character but because of V.Grim being Wind too, he probably never makes it into the team
which is just a shame
This is also, by the way, why i dont wanna see a Light Grand Albert (despite being the local Albert fan), if he follows the same shtick the dragon knights have been following, with regards to Thunderstruck
Because the og Albert is a cornerstone of the status in the Element
fierce python
I want a grand that helps in HL
no point in making a new one to farm 6D
Agastia and Mugen is still obnoxious to host during dead periods and you need so much mats from them
dusky terrace
This is also, by the way, why i dont wanna see a Light Grand Albert (despite bei...
og albert is used???
cyan loom
2 more left
cunning mist
Powah
torn turret
og albert is used???
i mean if you play Thunderstruck like a maniac (read: me)
then yes absolutely, he's core as hell in that
dusky terrace
i mean if you play Thunderstruck like a maniac (read: me)
then yes absolutely, h...
but is thunderstruck a thing?
fierce python
but is thunderstruck a thing?
for anything relevant? not really
dusky terrace
ic
cyan loom
has application with futsu in hexa but thats it
torn turret
ic
its just a meme team thats fun to use more than anything
If Light truly gets a character that's standalone strong like G.Lance or G.Percy, they will see better use elsewhere, obviously, but having them also not work with the status theyre supporting by replacing one of that statuses key players would just. Kinda suck
fierce python
zzz
cunning mist
Why 240 jewels
Why
Why 1200 weapon stones.
Why make those stupid numbers for whatever joke they have
dusky terrace
the damas are stupid
fierce python
different strokes I guess lol, the angel mats and eventually revans are annoying for me
torn turret
anyway back to the topic of europa flb
i think she needs the most work in terms of her actual kit, but she has by far the best stacking condition (triple attacking)
cyan loom
i think grimnir’s is better but she just needs an overall boost to her kit, her summer version is just a lot better atm and more synergistic with gabriel
torn turret
i think grimnir’s is better but she just needs an overall boost to her kit, her ...
Grimnir is the best at getting some of his stacks fast
by turn 2 he'll already have 4 stacks, which admittedly already is like 65% perp attack up or so
But then he kinda flounders around a bit while his skills are on cd, so he only ends up getting to the higher stacks around turn 10
with the double strike support and such that water has, Europa would the fastest at actually finishing all her stacks, I'd think
cyan loom
i mean wind has ougi support which would speed up his stack progression in a similar vein, the buffs he gets from them have also always been better than europa even pre-flb
dusky terrace
imejin on flb her s3 upgrades
to apply to all allies
passive stacks extended to 10
and gets stack from teammate ta too
fierce python
amp is the new hotness now
cyan loom
yea but it only applies to her
cyan loom
lmao
dusky terrace
these disciple flbs have all been meh
cyan loom
grimnir is good it’s just that h.lich/nio/ewiyar exist
dusky terrace
cyan loom
shiva is just clunky
torn turret
to this day i dont understand why shiva doesnt keep the cd reduction on the second ougi
its up there in the "why the hell did they do this" category of kit-related decisions together with the absolute dichotomy in quality of EMP skills released together
fierce python
she might get a good FLB since water is getting the nice things recently
torn turret
small chance to dodge
small chance to dodge on a character who doesnt even dodge anymore
50% chance for 1 stack of thunderstruck on ougi
compared to shit like Randall's
"start with 60% of your stacks immediately"
is so fucking funny
obviously it doesnt have to anywhere near as good as his EMP but anything real would be nice
cyan loom
pleiades is also side A so it doesnt stack with falsehood
shed need a rebal with her flb tbh
torn turret
and Cygames doesn't like Europa
wasnt christmas europa like
fine
dusky terrace
wasnt christmas europa like
fine
cause dirt really wanted glaciate support
cyan loom
shes good its just the fact that her superbuffing your team requires glaciate stacks
and its in earth
dusky terrace
it's like she was meant for water
but they thought oop
wouldnt wanna gib water more power
torn turret
wouldnt wanna gib water more power
or yknow
making the third europa alt in the same ele
dusky terrace
i mean why not
cyan loom
shed be really good in water
torn turret
i think the only character to surpass that is Percy
dusky terrace
other 2 are ded
if they are too lazy to do a rebal
and wanna force wallets for a holiday
then make it
dirt only has like
aglo
and nothing else
for glaciate
fierce python
water was a joke before Haase and Hraes
dusky terrace
no they arent
aglo im no teven sure what the intention was
giving them the usual burst skill
but then oh hey glaciate stacking
????
are we bursting or are we stacking for 7 turns
cyan loom
where are the y100 vids for diaspora, im ready to do my daily hosts again
dusky terrace
it's just basic kengo okto satyr +1
set it to fa, go to sleep
slap arulu in there or something
vmoni
benben
cyan loom
can you really FA it
dusky terrace
with t3 okto?
surely
but idunno
and this is magna
i cant pull it off
cuz no okto
i wish we got a vmoni replacement alrdy
outside benben
fierce python
dusky terrace
i love showcases without a grid
fierce python
caim in the back gives you all the info you need
just need to ougi often
don't need a galleon grid to farm diaspora
fierce python
you have 3 extra slots now
fierce python
arca wep
dusky terrace
random militis stuff
arca wep ig
one magna big atk
or whatever is that
oh right theres big hp too
fierce python
you can do draconic if you can't live through
fierce python
at that point that's the limit for coping
easier for me to join hosts now compared to hosting 
cyan loom
need to prep for super luci to upgrade non wind opus past 230
fierce python
since its an opus upgrade, I think super luci will be popular through time and its time gated
torn turret
outside benben
benben?
dusky terrace
benjamin
aka walmart vmoni
he has crazy good bar gen but not much else outside of that
cyan loom
gonna be going in with this
i think after i get my last 2 sands for draconics ill focus on getting luci to 250
strong viper
Mugen is trolling me huh
torn turret
benjamin
oh lol lmao
I saw Benben and thought Benbenet
tha atum spear
and got real confused
torn turret
Need to test how he stacks up vs g.narm later <:KEKW:818462009321586741>
ok i tested it
grim FA setup was like 30 sec faster compared to narm FA setup
by virtue of not failing the FC omen
fierce python
account bricked
scenic creek
that's ok...they are gonna make you use those eternity sands anywat
safe bough
rework will save them
cyan loom
at least you can flex them on us right
safe bough
Can't be rly bothered to finish 150 when opus gonna use the paper
cunning mist
I do think sarasa is plenty useful
So to me, it's more like 10 papers down the drain
Nio, seox, octo, sarasa, siete
The rest are heavely questionnable, but I did get value out of esser so hey.
cunning mist
Funf ain't worth the paper
And she'll never be reee
I hope they update esser.
She actually really arrived at the worst time
By being given 1 debuff at a time
Random too
No joke, she should be all 4 debuffs at a time
That way in 4 sk1 she is at max power on debuffs and on bounty
fierce python
Esser's use is grinding gw weapons 
cunning mist
She really needs an update, badly
fierce python
seeing mastery levels on relink and I'm like why is it not spell cap
cunning mist
At least uno is usable, esser really is a big nothing sandwich
Relink will drop on steam right?
fierce python
in 3 days
scenic creek
Esser's use is grinding gw weapons <:kek:835886499089874944>
i have her in backline during Arcanum farming...for what its worth 🥹
safe bough
They said there's a blue paper in next Babyl right
Gonna get it in 3 years
strong viper
Anni usually got free pulls too
Also these limited time tix if they wanna do it like last year
deft venture
surely
they will do something crazy this anni
something impactful
like
its 10th anniversery
we need
a 2nd summer lottery a big suprise
cunning mist
You get to pay to roll x10 more
strong viper
Free siero tix
fierce python
play the game
wind gets an easy entry to the raid compared to other elements
grid-wise
fierce python
Grid wise what does light look like?
lilac mountain
Aw fuck no cosmos
For the lu woh fists i could cope with the corow fan but charas might be my gate
Also no second rinne
Am fake lightlord
cyan loom
you can get away with def awakened symmetrias
safe bough
waiting for the m3 breakthrough
dusky terrace
fkin hell
im gonna do a friendlist cleanse
anybody without ulb agni gets kicked
im so fkin tired of colossus everywhere
lilac mountain
Oh you need an agni 
torn turret
waiting for the m3 breakthrough
surely this one will be very impactful
unlike half the enneads
lilac mountain
If you wanna friend
dusky terrace
If you wanna friend
sent ❤️
i dont even know if i have all of u added
but dear god i had so many useless ppl
and inactive ppl
it's a purge yall
i do have the most important person added tho
cyan loom
im only adding people with ulb zeph at this point
dusky terrace
im only adding people with ulb zeph at this point
i dont even have zeph 
not qualified then
cyan loom
dusky terrace
i do have flb ewi for no reason tho
.>
it's just my luck to get shit that i dont need
cyan loom
i think agnilords are a lot more prevalent so it shouldnt be too hard to find them
dusky terrace
most likely
especially rn
cuz it's fire event so anybody who has bubs out rn in the list most likely has agni
lilac mountain
The only primal i dont have ulb is hades
cyan loom
i dont have hades or titan but those are like the most popular primals so
steep gulch
personally the only thing i care on fl is 250 luci or baha. i am never running double primal/magna these days.
cyan loom
eresh is popular so the primal following it would be too, and a lot of people were already invested in dark before illustrious weps
torn turret
i dont have any of them
🧀
well, i do have all the actual summons besies varuna i think
but i have none of them ULBed as i lack the grid for any of them
cyan loom
i need 12 more for luci and 12 more for the rest of evokers
lilac mountain
Since i know that manga Transcendence will use sands im saving my sands for that
for tiamat and celeste for sure
dusky terrace
Magna dark no longer competitive with its primal peer?
not at all lol
eresh changed everything
magna doesnt have a good eresh grid
but im chilling with my dark kengo for horus and thats all i need dark for rn
lilac mountain
I've been with kengo six fed lich since forever
dusky terrace
same
tho i run halmal over six
this works for magna just fine
if i get 1 more pns and 1 more ES i can go hades
shalem wep grid is ded probably
fierce python
no
fierce python
you keep the axes for non-light raids
dusky terrace
then wiki is lying to me
again
tho maybe it's just for short burst
cause as i scroll down i see the axes there
fierce python
specifics not general purpose
dusky terrace
yeyeye
im not goin hades dw
i dont have the damas
i need to get my dirt in order first
dont think i'll do any other primal
with damas being needed for so much shit now
thats not evne primal uncaps
fierce python
dusky terrace
yeah
looks nice
if i only spark on flash and only spark galleon
i can have this by the end of the year
cyan loom
Magna dark no longer competitive with its primal peer?
if you have PnS and ES you don’t need to convert to primal
the gap is only really going to be evident once hades gets their overrider-like weapon
lilac mountain
if you have PnS and ES you don’t need to convert to primal
i only got 1 PNS
cyan loom
fierce python
dusky terrace
actually true
i had the same thought for wind
cause i do have 2 of each
but thats way harder to fit in
cyan loom
oh
dusky terrace
since the idea for fire generally is that u can just go lof+cs in magna too
same with dark apparently
cyan loom
i still use them in my magna setups, at least the daggers
torn turret
if you have 2 daggers you can just use them in magna yeah
cyan loom
yes
torn turret
like instead of mandjets?
more or less
dusky terrace
hmm
i still dont even have one flb mandjet
bitchass ra
been hosting her forever
torn turret
there's a lot of flex spots
Like outside of setups where you need more HP (and thus need more spoons and such), iirc the only like, "core" weaps are 2 harps, 1 spoon, seraphic/ulb ultima, opus, and baha
but unlike other eles where they dont have quite as much flexibility, the voltage is
a lot worse for us in magna
Since the voltage only works with Baha Dagger and any potential Manadiver MH you might run
dusky terrace
@torn turret totally randomly remember that agonizes exist, probably too late to farm them now but what do u do for that boss? as a daily host
oh fk
i forgot to farm together the cosmosword
sheeesh
was too busy with arcarum
IMEJIN
cyan loom
i mean you can just host and let the relic busters clear it
lilac mountain
This is my general AA grid since my primal opus is kn glory chain for kengo fights
Dia hosts and tefnuts mostly
dusky terrace
you do dia hosts with an AA grid?
arent u supposed to host dia with kengo
i thought of barring seileinos
for
dia
just to have garrison
lilac mountain
you do dia hosts with an AA grid?
I meant that's where my primal opus is used
Sorry for the confusion
I do kengo primal opus on tefnut + dia host and this AA grid on the rest
dusky terrace
yeah
lilac mountain
wamdus, euro
dusky terrace
makes sense
i dunno what grid to make for dia hosts
truly
i always feel like im too fragile
tho maybe it's not supposed to be FAd
fierce python
get your ultima done
lilac mountain
Yeah i dont FA dia hosts
fierce python
slot in a draconic
lilac mountain
i'll post my grid in a sec once this wamdus is over
cyan loom
even with opus and draconic im still almost dead after achieving y100
dusky terrace
that doesnt sound good
cyan loom
its fine tbh
dusky terrace
and i dont even have t3 okto
dusky terrace
Team is benjamin lvl 80 okto amd satyr
lv80 okto really?
lilac mountain
Yes
dusky terrace
didnt think that's a thing
lilac mountain
10 turns usually, add 1 turn each turn you got petrified debuff
lilac mountain
Ye
dusky terrace
def awaken ak
mine is uh
ougi awaken
probably should have done def
alex dagger i still dont have barred
lilac mountain
Ougi AK should be fine
lilac mountain
Thats leona weapon no?
lilac mountain
I dont have it
dusky terrace
oh
and no ayer first either
how do u live
but that means i could get away without seilenos
lilac mountain
Titman armored buff strong
Also pots
And use guard on benjamin if he's targeted
dusky terrace
does lv80 okto really work there over something like gandalf?
lilac mountain
I havent tried gandalf over okto but i figure the 200 charge bar is important
dusky terrace
and why no astral?
i'd run astral over that uriel fist
or maybe my math is wrong
guess the supp is nice
for satyr
even nicer for gandalf maybe
for more skilldmg stuff
cyan loom
609cd533 dia if anyone can help
cyan loom
kather will save me its ok
lilac mountain
@dusky terrace Okay tested it out , Gandalf works but takes an extra turn compared to the okto variant i run
lilac mountain
Overall damage is better but its clickier and less of it is ougi when you want ougi 100 ASAP
dusky terrace
that team should have a perfect loop tho
i run that everywhere
benjamin gives so much bar
but ye i get it
this is about ougi dmg
or rather actually doing ougi
so 200bar okto does it better ig
fierce python
guess I didn't need glory chain 
cunning mist
Get to the windo machine
steep gulch
why is this sword dropping so much now that I can't go rainbow team
well there are some rainbow low button setups for GOHL that use them.
dusky terrace
are crit emps still bait?
im think what wzeta emps should be
do i go full 4 crit
or 3 atk
crit alwaays seemed like a bait to me
since it's individual dice rolls
steep gulch
full atk.
cyan loom
magna water usually runs crit grids for AA teams so yea attack
dusky terrace
keep cooking optimal siete setup
i cant cancel the omens
kek
with lj comp
only the 3rd one
so i think kengo is the better one
with manual kengo
i can consistently cancel
i think
also can someone pls help finish my siete
bd1d0374
@fierce python @cyan loom
@cunning mist
sigh finally over