I feel like u should submit a ticket anyway
#Hearthstone
thorny turret
fiery spear
I feel like u should submit a ticket anyway
It's okay nvm, I started on a new account and managed to make Protoss priest... Tho it feels so underwhelming
Any other protoss deck that is up there?
spring ingot
There is protoss imbue mage but generally not the best decks
granite bay
Protoss Mage is playable.
granite bay
Upcoming buffs and nerfs.
obtuse musk
Upcoming buffs and nerfs.
Leave my defense crystal alone
It’s not terrorizing the meta
onyx forge
It’s not terrorizing the meta
Casually gaining 200 armour like a boss while completly warping the format aroud it
frozen brook
It's okay nvm, I started on a new account and managed to make Protoss priest... ...
Lmao
frozen brook
See? Nothing warping about the deck
Delulu
onyx forge
Very meta warping… I’m so sure
the deck can be bad/mid and still meta warping by virtue of popularity/polarized matchups
DH armour along with DK leach basicklyt create meta where egg hunter is the best deck in the game by far and you can't try to counter it cause of prevelance of dh and dk
frozen brook
Egg hunter is not the best deck in the format
Ur only looking at top 1k legend lol
Tiny minority of ppl
Cherry picking data is 
onyx forge
Egg hunter is not the best deck in the format
(nobody cares about 1k legend wankers)
fierce pendant
See? Nothing warping about the deck
What? lmao
Every class started teching against it
That is the definition of meta-warping
frozen brook
fiery spear
Then it's either my list is doodoo or I just play suboptimally
The comments justifies my statement
obtuse musk
(nobody cares about 1k legend wankers)
Everyone cares
obtuse musk
Cherry picking data is <:Jerry:818462025604661279>
It’s not cherry picking. It’s objective data. Why do you think blizzard balances around the best players?
frozen brook
It’s not cherry picking. It’s objective data. Why do you think blizzard balances...
Uh no it’s cherry picked because Armor DH is not a problem at the highest ranks, it’s a problem in the lower ranks which are not being represented. And they don’t just balance around top Legend lmao
Never have
By your data and logic, Arkonite Defense Crystal is a non-issue, but it is on the nerf list for next patch
So that’s case in point right there
obtuse musk
So you’re telling me the most popular stats based website cherry picks data?
frozen brook
No, I’m telling you YOU cherry picked their data
They didn’t say “DH isn’t a problem”, you did
They just posted numbers
Own your shit
obtuse musk
No, I’m telling you YOU cherry picked their data
I didn’t though
obtuse musk
They didn’t say “DH isn’t a problem”, you did
They did say that. It shows in the data.
obtuse musk
They just posted numbers
You realize they actually give context behind the numbers right?
frozen brook
Die on your hill idc any more lol
Tired of arguing with ppl who can’t admit they’re wrong out of internet pride or w/e
onyx forge
"Blizzard balances around top 1k legend"
When that ever happened?
since Esports scene is dead blizzard couldn't give less of a duck about top 1k.
top 1k isn't representetive of the general gamestate anyway, DH deck takes negative brain power to pilot which gives it a massive boost on lower ranks
spring ingot
Eh
That murmur nerf is gonna do nothing
Or the Ceaseless expanse tbh
At least dh is gone
Armor dh is basically a dead play pattern it's all about reaching to 1 card and if you reach that one card you win that's why it's going out, that play pattern is never suggested
That also what happened with quasar rogue
Maybe the same thing with egg hunter tbh. They release a whole mechanic to make beast hunter something but then it's just used to cheat king plush and spamming it over and over
Mana cheat is never a good mechanic
frozen brook
Ryo exposed as Wild player? @vapid copper
LOL
Guy regretted his Viper play immediately
Still a 10/10 on turn 4 even if you drop him out of my hand kek
And that’s why Howlfiend is fkin trash
Opp can just force discard your quest reward right after u get it lol
They killed the deck @onyx forge
Arkonite got nerfed to 5 mana
fierce pendant
And that’s why Howlfiend is fkin trash
Not like Netherportal is a very good quest either
onyx forge
They killed the deck <@249215895841275904>
Dragon warrior time
idk why imbue priest buffs are so meh. The deck will still be ass
frozen brook
Not like Netherportal is a very good quest either
Sargeras existing makes it completely irrelevant now, but it was actually top tier before Cataclysm got nerfed cuz u could guaranteed play it on curve with full board clear prior
Cataclysm used to discard your whole hand for 4 mana
And Malchezaar’s Imp is super gas
frozen brook
I queued up in Wild by accident
Oh LMAO
fierce pendant
Yes
I know about Malchezaar's Imp and Catacylsm lmao
But I would still argue
that the Nether Portal effect isn't particularly good even then
5 mana do nothing to summon 3/2s
And then slowly win the game from there is uhhhhhh
It's just that the rest of the discard package carried the quest reward
stuff like fist of jaraxxus
frozen brook
5 mana do nothing to summon 3/2s
It’s 5 mana summon two 3/2s on the turn it’s played so I mean… the incremental value was there back then. Doomguard + Fist + Soulfire gave you a lot of reach if your opponents let the imps live
Quest in isolation was mid yes
But Discard package just that good that it made the quest worth running hahah
fierce pendant
It’s 5 mana summon two 3/2s on the turn it’s played so I mean… the incremental v...
but that's literally anything 
That's just Doomguard, Fist and Soulfire always being good
Specially Doomguard and Soulfire have been broken since day 1
frozen brook
Aye
fierce pendant
I had
a quest to summon dragons
so I went to look if Fye was still in rotation
it wasn't
when I checked wild cards, it turned my gamemode to wild
bc I made an Imbue Dragon Paladin deck
vapid copper
frozen brook
vapid copper
Wild is a lawless land, so I can understand players that want a more controlled environment 
frozen brook
obtuse musk
Tired of arguing with ppl who can’t admit they’re wrong out of internet pride or...
How is using data driven analysis make me wrong. Did you even read the report? Because I did.
frozen brook
Stop pinging me on this, not interested
You can’t understand that top 1k legend isn’t the right sample to use to determine if a deck is a problem or not
There’s nothing more to say
obtuse musk
It often is though. It’s where meta developments start
And where metacdevelopments often occur
Why do you think blizzard doesn’t listen to people in bronze?
Top 1k players understand the game better than the average player
They are the playerbase for which Team 5 turns to for design
So no. They are the sample people use to determine if a deck is problematic
Or maybe you just hate data driven analysis
obtuse musk
FxTwitter
thorny turret
i got a signature version of that as my first legendary from Beyond 
fierce pendant
It's a cool card
frozen brook
Too bad its dogshit because KJ exists
And will never get wiped by it
Carress seems fun to try out tho
fierce pendant
yeah.
some people are still playing Leech DK too
Seeing quite a bit of Protoss Imbue Mage
it's annoying
fiery spear
Protoss is the top deck rn according to hsguru... Should I switch to that!
?
Oh and about loaner decks, can we edit the cards inside it?
And if I already have most cards in it should I just choose a different one?
And can we use the cards from loaner deck to another deck?
fierce pendant
Oh and about loaner decks, can we edit the cards inside it?
don't think so
but once you pick the cards, you can
fierce pendant
And if I already have most cards in it should I just choose a different one?
probably
fierce pendant
And can we use the cards from loaner deck to another deck?
Once you pick one, they become yours forever
fiery spear
.... Rip should've chosen colossus mage loaner before making my priest version then
Well... What can you do
Wait a sec ... I can just dust the second copy (for example the second Artanis) for full value since he got nerfed right?
Lol the taunting terran one has soo many legendaries and even ceaseless, should I just get that? Is it a decent deck at least?
cyan thicket
some people are still playing Leech DK too
Is managable now, is slighty a bit less annoying
cyan thicket
Protoss is the top deck rn according to hsguru... Should I switch to that!
I recommend waiting, the patch notes drop today and meta takes time to develop
cyan thicket
Patch already happened
Meta still need to develop is still ~24 hours
Finally i can use my diamond naralex
frozen brook
Finally i can use my diamond naralex
Fkin whale
Forever mining my salt
I smashed some plebs’ faces with Wallow in Standard
Feelsbronzeman
spring ingot
I am trying to survive this meta with janky taunt warrior
And dirty rats
Also wtf can I get some golden legendaries, I barely even get legendaries
fierce pendant
Trying to play Imbue Paladin and
it's not looking good chat
I managed to climb to Diamond 10 and now I'm hardstuck
Too many King Plush hunters and Zarimi Priests over here...
And both of them are bad matchups for me
cyan thicket
Trying to play Imbue Paladin and
Try tree paly
Is the more successful deck for paly now
cyan thicket
Beg dragon gaming
Cuz zarimi i can bear
They just need to find naralex to otk
But imbue hunter
granite bay
Funny tree goes brr.
fierce pendant
Try tree paly
Do you have a list of pure tree pally
cyan thicket
Do you have a list of pure tree pally
AAECAZ8FBNK5BsG/BrSBB5KDBw3JoATQngbTngbWngaGvwbDvwbpyQaM1gaY4Qal4QbP/gbI/waKsQcAAA==
sonic grail
is murmur unplayable now
granite bay
fiery spear
What's that? Priest or Mage?
granite bay
I was Priest and the opponent was Mage yes.
spring ingot
is murmur unplayable now
Literally nothing changed with the murmur deck
1 mana doesn't even matter
fiery spear
I was Priest and the opponent was Mage yes.
Wow, just had the same matchup too
Also lost
Their hand were too convinient
fiery spear
The hell is Among Us DH?
cyan thicket
The hell is Among Us DH?
Crewmate DH
obtuse musk
Crew mate DH is back baby
vapid copper
fierce pendant
AAECAZ8FBNK5BsG/BrSBB5KDBw3JoATQngbTngbWngaGvwbDvwbpyQaM1gaY4Qal4QbP/gbI/waKsQcA...
what
is the
purpose of the wisps
in this deck
cyan thicket
purpose of the wisps
Thin hand size for thrasadrill
fierce pendant
Hmm
not sure how I feel about this deck
It feels like there is not enough juice to it
It runs out of steam, specially when it doesn't draw the tutor cards and/or Ursol and Shaladrassil
frozen brook
I mean having Wisps as dead throwaway cards doesn’t help
I can see running Wisp in Imbue Mage but in Paladin??? Bruh
fiery spear
I hate leech dk with all my being
spring ingot
I really don't know what to play tho. Relying on tortolla early game is so 50/50 with warrior
And with dk idk mostly a safe bet as control
Dirty rat is such a life saver
frozen brook
Dirty rat is such a life saver
Vipers 😉
frozen brook
@vapid copper someone played the fkin owl on me in ladder
In a Shudderwock deck
Like why
vapid copper
Wtf lol
thorny turret
cyan thicket
Respecting marlone smh
obtuse musk
Big DH on top fam
fiery spear
How does protoss rogue win lol?
granite bay
By fusing two Templars into an Archon? Or you know hitting your opponent in the face until they exploded.
fiery spear
Yes I've tried... Died to leech...
granite bay
Against Death Knight is little difficult to burst them down, just because of their extra health gain.
fiery spear
So... T1 here means there's still unfavorable matchup?
I thought it meant like evo shadow era with bellringer Skull Raider+Suzie+Grimnir in SV
granite bay
I personally haven't been playing protoss rogue this expansion, so I can't say for sure but yes death knight seem to be the unfavorable matchup here.
fiery spear
Zarimi priest seems to have no problem dealing 77 damage for OTK to them tho
granite bay
Also I don't know how you can easily stack multiples archon in one turn now without makeup artist combo with scoundrel/sonya.
fiery spear
Did that card rotate?
granite bay
It's from festival so yeah.
fiery spear
Ooh..
granite bay
Zarimi priest seems to have no problem dealing 77 damage for OTK to them tho
Well in the usual circumstances no deck can survive against the full zarimi combo (unless they stack a lot of health and/or armor) 
fiery spear
77 damage tho
granite bay
At least they do run dirty rat for disruption so there's that.
fiery spear
At least they do run dirty rat for disruption so there's that.
I also don't get this... What if it pulled that 7 cost card that makes dragon 1 cost?
granite bay
Say if your dirty rat hit Naralex or Zarimi, or heck hitting one of their briarspawn is good enough.
Just removed it in the same turn.
fiery spear
Ooh, I see...
granite bay
You obviously wouldn't want to leave it up now do you?
fiery spear
I didn't think of that, I thought it was just so that they waste the battlecry effects
granite bay
Well now you know.
Alternatively, to be safe you should kept your mana open for any removal you might wanna do after the minion get pulled as well.
thorny turret
onyx forge
Have some good luck with legos this expansion
obtuse musk
You're building a cliffside DH deck but add more minions than needed... smh
granite bay
Alright, got that first game of Protoss Rogue down.
fiery spear
Alright, got that first game of Protoss Rogue down.
You actually tried the deck? How was it?
My mulligan and early games are always dogwater...
My opponents for few last matches were imbue druid...
granite bay
You actually tried the deck? How was it?
It was actually feeling quite good
My hand in this game has been stuck on harbingers for a while after t2 harbinger+step, but was able to get some good draw going with robocaller and I guess it went okay after that.
vapid copper
⛏️ 
How long can this go on? ⛏️
fierce pendant
Holy cow
obtuse musk
interesting to see that starship warlock is the best deck in the game.
fiery spear
I'm curious do HS players also follow warcraft lore?
spring ingot
I mean I play WoW so yeah
onyx forge
I payed attention before it went to shit
obtuse musk
onyx forge
clife diving being meta twice is honestly increadible
all imbue decks being in the trash together, sadge
ngl didn't predict it to flop worse than starship
spring ingot
Surely meta will slow down one day
I'm so tired of having to board clear every turn or death
onyx forge
The issue with imbue I feeel is that all cards are just bad board impact.
Well paladin has ok stats but their imbue power is just checks slow to compensate
thorny turret
fierce pendant
ew battlegrounds
obtuse musk
all imbue decks being in the trash together, sadge
They’re fine on the climb to legend but then they fall off after that
I encourage you to read the report for further context
fierce pendant
Imbue would be better if Starcraft didn't exist
frozen brook
Imbue would be better if Starcraft didn't exist
StarCraft would be better if nerfs didn’t exist
spring ingot
Every class having an otk isn't fun anymore
Delete zarimi, shudderblock, king plush, sonya
God it's all fucking toys expansion
obtuse musk
Toys Lives Matter. @spring ingot
frozen brook
Starcraft ruined arena and it ruined standard
Didn’t ruin Wild 😈
I was still cookin’
The StarCraft expansion was lore accurate
Winfestors got nerfed
vapid copper
Screw that meta. Aside from Loatheb and Boom
They're cool
I did like the shredder as well
Paladin though 💀
fierce pendant
I liked playing Paladin back then lmao
fierce pendant
Instead of Loatheb, quartermaster too
frozen brook
Screw that meta. Aside from Loatheb and Boom
Dr. Balanced was so balanced he never got nerfed
Loatheb is your bane
spring ingot
I just farm wild with otk paladin nowadays
frozen brook
I just farm wild with otk paladin nowadays
You disgust me
spring ingot
You disgust me
I don't care, wild lives don't matter
I meant hearthstone specifically
I become Uther, bringer of 4 horseman
fierce pendant
Okay
I have to share this
because
Although they weren't even the best picks sometimes
I just got offered 5 shadow word steals
and I think that is hilarious
obtuse musk
I thought this was a hearthstone channel. Not Super Mario Bros.
spring ingot
Romanian deck
onyx forge
Fuuck, why did it has to be such a bad card with such sick art...
spring ingot
Amazing 1600 dust
I want a signature yogg so bad
I been hunting for it since it came out cause I missed the deal
I got a signature nzoth
frozen brook
Mfw some idiot plays turn 5 KJ with Skull of the Manari equipped and Baku-buffed tap but still loses
KalecGOATs
spring ingot
When will every single card in the game will get nerfed btw
My opponents playing cards isn't fair
fiery spear
I heard that king plush otk received support from miniset? What card is that?
spring ingot
Welcome to wild
spring ingot
Imbue hunter learns about vengeful visage
frozen brook
LOL
Vaporize, Vengeful Visage and Explosive Runes unironically op against imbue hunter
Nevermind Ice Block or Objection
spring ingot
This is so janky
onyx forge
Zarimi might be dead but priest lives on
thorny turret
spring ingot
Yeah I just got that on a dk run
I would just play t2 for wild growth stomp them
then just get pyroblast to end
Or Jaraxxus if I couldn't race them
autowin card
spring ingot
It's kinda insane with a good hand
But this is the meme version
Also it is a priest so deserved
spring ingot
frozen brook
The leech counter we needed
fiery spear
The leech counter we needed
Doesn't leech kill you before 10 anyway
onyx forge
spring ingot
Father daughter meeting
vapid copper
I think that's good
It had it's time
...several times
I'm also happy to finally see malchezaar's imp nerfed
frozen brook
I'm also happy to finally see malchezaar's imp nerfed
But my Lakkari Sacrifice meme deck!!!
vapid copper
No 
frozen brook
I still have “Our Deck” built
vapid copper
NOOOOO
frozen brook
In your honour
frozen brook
vapid copper
No!
vapid copper
YES
frozen brook
Everywhere
vapid copper
Sure
vapid copper
@frozen brook This was the old version of the card
A character (can target heroes)
fierce pendant
They absolutely butchered Fyrakk
:(
and Arkonite no longer has taunt LMFAO
RIP Bozo
Corpsicle being 3 mana also what the fuck
TESTING DUMMY GOT NERFED LMAO
wow most of these changes suck ass
they absolutely killed several cards
sanguine, testing dummy, ressucitate, metal detector
frozen brook
RIPeroni
spring ingot
I just got a bit lucky
Dusted hooktail what a meme trash ass card 
frozen brook
I just got a bit lucky
Dusted hooktail what a meme trash ass card <:sleep_zzzz:8...
Wow whale
frozen brook
@vapid copper bruh I just one-tapped a BMing shaman with a topdecked 22 damage climactic necrotic explosion LOL
FELT SO GOOD
I love rainbow DK lol
vapid copper
<@226187894379773952> bruh I just one-tapped a BMing shaman with a topdecked 22 ...
LOL
fierce pendant
<@226187894379773952> bruh I just one-tapped a BMing shaman with a topdecked 22 ...
lol
vapid copper
<@226187894379773952>
vapid copper
sanguine, testing dummy, ressucitate, metal detector
Metal detector nerf made me sad
🙁
frozen brook
@fierce pendant how’s standard? I heard Protoss Mage is Tier 1 now?
I’m playing it in wild and it’s doing pretty well against all the slop I get thrown at me lmao
fierce pendant
<@163094036507394049> how’s standard? I heard Protoss Mage is Tier 1 now?
bad
Protoss Mage idk
haven't seen much of it
I just play Standard enough until I have tickets/gold
and then head to Arena
frozen brook
Ppl were complaining about Protoss Mage on the subreddit so
I just assumed it was everywhere lol
frozen brook
I just play Standard enough until I have tickets/gold
Fair enough
vapid copper
@frozen brook
frozen brook
<@643836218290995214> <:MemeTier:818462041521127446>
vapid copper
<:MemeTier:818462041521127446>
My battle.net doesn't want to load anymore
Smh
I had a great hand a the next plays planned out
Wait, I think it's back?
frozen brook
Kamaitachi bullying me with Steamcleaner
vapid copper
vapid copper
frozen brook
frozen brook
@vapid copper thoughts on Elwyn Boar?
I wish that card be incinerated in holy fire
frozen brook
The lack of response tells me everything I need to know
vapid copper
The lack of response tells me everything I need to know <:MemeTier:8184620415211...
Oh, my bad
I actually forgot to answer
I think it's annoying to deal with for most decks
Auto-lose to most control ones lol
frozen brook
@vapid copper https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/PG9eGB28Nf set this guy up LMAO
frozen brook
I think it's annoying to deal with for most decks
True dat
frozen brook
Bruh
vapid copper
frozen brook
frozen brook
Fair
spring ingot
Fun and strong doesnt go together in wild
You either play warlock like a slave or perish
vapid copper