[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Lc0 v0.30.0"]
[Black "Stockfish 16"]
[Result "*"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 Nc6 4. Nxc6 dxc6 5. d3 Qe7 6. Be2 Be6 7. Be3 O-O-O 8. Nd2 Kb8 9. c3 g6 10. Qa4 a6 11. Nb3 h5 12. Nc5 Bc8 13. Bg5 Re8 14. d4 Bh6 15. Bxf6 Qxf6 16. e5 Qf4 17. O-O Bf8 18. Nd3 Qf5 19. f4 Be7 20. Rae1 g5 21. Qb3 c5 22. fxg5 Qxg5 23. Bf3 cxd4 24. cxd4 f6 25. Re2 h4 26. e6 Bd6 27. Kh1 a5 28. a3 Re7 29. Rfe1 Bg3 30. Nf2 a4 31. Qxa4 h3 32. Nxh3 Rxh3 33. gxh3 Bxe1 34. Rxe1 Bxe6 35. Rg1 Qf5 36. Qd1 Bd5 37. Rg3 Re3 38. Bxd5 Qxd5+ 39. Kg1 Re4 40. Rg4 Re8 41. Qd2 f5 42. Rg3 b6 43. Rg7 Qe4 44. Qc3 Qf4 45. a4 Re3 46. Rg8+ Kb7 47. Qd2 Rg3+ 48. hxg3 Qxd2 49. Re8 Qxd4+ 50. Kf1 Qxb2 51. Re2 Qa1+ 52. Re1 Qxa4 53. h4 Qg4 54. Kf2 f4 55. gxf4 Qxh4+ 56. Ke2 Qxf4 57. Rf1 Qc4+ 58. Kf2 b5 59. Rd1 b4 60. Rd2 b3 61. Re2 Qxe2+ 62. Kxe2 b2 63. Kd3 b1=Q+ 64. Ke3 c5 65. Kf4 c4 66. Ke5 c3 67. Kd4 c2 68. Ke4 c1=Q+ 69. Kf3 Qf1+ 70. Kg3 Qg6+ 71. Kh4 Qh1# *``` I made them play the famous Eric Rosen stafford gambit, and it somehow lost with a +2 advantage right out of the opening. I gave both engines 5 seconds to think. (1 thread for SF, 2 threads for Lc0, other settings are at default)#Lc0 v0.30.0 vs Stockfish16 Stafford Gambit
spark flame
Stockfish 16 vs Lc0 v.0.30.0 Stafford Gambit
Lc0 v.0.30.0 vs Stockfish16 Stafford Gambit
Lc0 v0.30.0 vs Stockfish16 Stafford Gambit
chrome sandal
You should mention leela net and hardware
deep echo
also, 1 thread for SF, 2 threads for Lc0 lol
5 seconds per move is also very inaccurate
should do 60 seconds whole game or smth
spark flame
also, 1 thread for SF, 2 threads for Lc0 lol
I put on all stock settings lol
but still though leela easily blunders in really small time controls
spark flame
You should mention leela net and hardware
Intel Core i5 7500
queen thunder
cpu leela?
spark flame
yeah
queen thunder
lol....
spark flame
It's a big bottleneck for leela
but I still didn't expect it to throw away such a big advantage like that still
queen thunder
5 seconds for whole game? or per move
spark flame
5 seconds for whole game? or per move
per move
granite venture
leela only blundered once and that was in (close to) endgame
was just slowly getting squeezed
karmic geyser
but I still didn't expect it to throw away such a big advantage like that still
What net did you use? I don't really see this version of Leela being close to SF 10 level even
karmic geyser
leela only blundered once and that was in (close to) endgame
Game review also supports this. Claiming it lost right out of the opening is a bit weird to me...
rain flower
yeah
lc0 is really weak without a gpu - i have a decently fast computer and i'm not a particularly strong player, but i can still beat leela with the 512x15 net on a cpu only
although it's definitely possible i'm making a mistake with the compilation
karmic geyser
lc0 is really weak without a gpu - i have a decently fast computer and i'm not a...
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I highly doubt that to be the case, even blitz on Lc0 (CPU) is approaching 3000 elo
rain flower
odd. I definitely made a mistake then.
karmic geyser
odd. I definitely made a mistake then.
depends on the net, and such. I'd probably need to test it more in blitz
spark flame
What net did you use? I don't really see this version of Leela being close to SF...
I used the default net from their website (dnnl)
ill try it with SF11
spark flame
it ended in a peaceful draw
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Lc0 v0.30.0"]
[Black "Stockfish 11 64"]
[Result "*"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 Nc6 4. Nxc6 dxc6 5. d3 Bc5 6. Be2 Ng4 7. Bxg4 Qh4 8. g3 Qxg4 9. Qxg4 Bxg4 10. Be3 Be7 11. Nd2 h5 12. h4 a5 13. a4 b6 14. f3 Bd7 15. Nc4 Be6 16. b3 f6 17. Ke2 O-O-O 18. Bc1 Bb4 19. Ba3 Bc3 20. Bb2 Bxc4 21. Bxc3 Be6 22. Rag1 Rh7 23. g4 hxg4 24. fxg4 Rdh8 25. h5 Rd8 26. g5 fxg5 27. Rxg5 Rdh8 28. Ke3 Bf7 29. Be5 Bxh5 30. Bxg7 Be8 31. Bxh8 Rxh1 32. Rg8 Kd7 33. Bf6 Rh3+ 34. Kf4 c5 35. Rg7+ Kc8 36. Rg8 Kd7 37. Kf5 Rf3+ 38. Ke5 Rh3 39. Rg7+ Kc8 40. Ke6 Bc6 41. Bg5 Rh8 42. Bf4 Re8+ 43. Kf7 Rd8 44. Bg5 Rh8 45. Bf6 c4 46. bxc4 Be8+ 47. Ke6 Bxa4 48. Rg2 Rh7 49. c5 bxc5 50. Kd5 Rd7+ 51. Kxc5 Rd6 52. Bc3 Kb7 53. Kc4 Rc6+ 54. Kd4 Ra6 55. Bb2 Rc6 56. c4 Ra6 57. Ba3 Bd7 58. Kc3 Rh6 59. Rg7 Kc8 60. Rg8+ Kb7 61. Rg5 a4 62. Rg7 Kc8 63. Rg1 Rh3 64. Bc5 Rf3 65. Kd2 Rh3 66. Bb4 Kb7 67. Rg7 Kc8 68. Rg5 Rh2+ 69. Kc3 Rh3 70. Bc5 Bc6 71. Kd4 Be8 72. Rg8 Kd7 73. Rg2 Bh5 74. Ra2 Bd1 75. Bb4 Kc6 76. Rd2 Bg4 77. Be7 Bh5 78. Bc5 Bf3 79. Bf8 Kd7 80. Ra2 Bd1 81. Bc5 Kc6 82. Bb4 Kd7 83. Rg2 Bf3 84. Rd2 Bg4 85. Bc5 Kc6 86. Ba3 Kd7 87. Bb4 Kc6 88. Rb2 Kd7 89. Bc5 Kc6 90. Rg2 Bf3 91. Ra2 Bd1 92. Bb4 Kd7 93. Rf2 Bg4 94. Bc5 Kc6 95. Rd2 Bf3 96. Be7 Kd7 97. Bf6 Ke6 98. Bd8 Kd7 99. Bg5 c5+ 100. Ke5 Kc6 101. Kf5 Rh1 102. e5 Re1 103. Ra2 Bd1 104. e6 Bb3 105. Rb2 a3 106. Rxb3 a2 107. Ra3 a1=Q 108. Rxa1 Rxa1 109. Kf6 Rh1 110. Ke7 Rh3 111. Kf7 Rh7+ 112. Kf8 Rh8+ 113. Ke7 Rh7+ 114. Kf8 Rh8+ 115. Kg7 Rh3 116. Kf7 Rh7+ *```There was tests done at classical time controls and Lc0 performs a little better than SF 9
The T1 distilled net should do better at classical
But probably still weaker than 11