scarf trading and value

[kind meadow]

I’ve noticed that some scarfs go for more than others, which can have to do with both how it looks and how much it costs. But what’s the value of a specific scarf, how can you know that? Discuss below what scarfs are worth.

What I found is that a one coloured bought scarf is worth roughly half of a national scarf and a two coloured bought scarf is ca 0,75, is this correct is this false? Like give me some discussion and let’s make a value table of scarfs lmao

[lean vector]

Hmm...for me I tend to look at things like the elements that went into crafting it. A solid color fabric with printing is certainly less involved that something with a patch on it, or something with stitched-on piping or an embroidered design.

I do love doing math based on tables tho (looking at all my D&D magic item pricing charts), so I'm down to help out if we can work to establish a set of categories or some such

[kind meadow]

I’m 100% down

So let’s start with the bottom

Like a penny, the single coloured scarf is the least worth

We build from there

Ok?

[lean vector]

yah

I'm at work, but can get mine out when I get home tonight and start coming up with all the elements on the different ones.

It may also be worth considering a category for awards. Not just anybody can wear an eagle or wood badge scarf in the states...not sure if other scouting programs have similar things

[kind meadow]

Nah

But design how old it is and cost I think are very important

If you get a 10 year old scarf it’s gonna be worth more than a scarf you bought yesterday

And how nice it looks is also very important

[kind owl]

well, quantity and scarcity of the necker is one of the most important factors

[kind meadow]

That too ig

[kind owl]

for example a UK necker will be less valuable than an irish necker

[kind meadow]

Yea but you need to find someone from Ireland to trade with

And some aren’t allowed to trade

Thai scouts I don’t think are allowed to trade away their scarfs

[kind owl]

whilst your only supposed for when you go on int. trips, you can technically just buy UK neckers from our scout store, whereas the national necker for ireland is only given out for international events and I believe you have to request one if you are doing a trip, and you only get the 1

[kind meadow]

Hm

[kind owl]

aswell as the more common factor of just quantity of scouts per NSO

[kind meadow]

Yea ofc

Ok but let’s start with two things that are very much standard and anchor everything off of those two

Basic plain one colour scarf

And two colour scarf

How much are those worth in comparison to each other

How many two coloured scarfs do you get from a one coloured one

[hexed temple]

I believe u get 2 irish neckerchief 1 to swap and as personal I hope so cuz I do want to swap one lol

But can someone tell me y our irish one is one of the most sought after lol was told people are willing to give away anything for it

😂

[kind owl]

has a really cool design as well as scarcity, alot of people are desperate for em lol

[hexed temple]

Yeah was told tents and all are given for it 🤣

[acoustic sigil]

@hexed temple has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[oblique rover]

@kind meadow you can't forget tartan neckers

[signal dagger]

I'd disagree on the age factor. I've whipped out some 50+ year old scarves to trade before (1971 WSJ specifically) and got hardly a blink before they declined

[kind meadow]

What?

[kind meadow]

Yea but then again design and such Also play a big role

But a totally new Norwegian scarf isn’t as interesting as a used one, where you can see it’s been used

It has a certain charm to it

[oblique rover]

Tartan neckers

Like this

[kind meadow]

Yea whats that

Oh

We have that

As our national scarf

Different colours ofc

But that yea

@oblique rover

[proud drift]

Are we starting the black market of scarfs?

[oblique rover]

Yeah, tartans tend to be used for the regional neckers

[kind meadow]

No it’s the norway scarf not a regional one

For the whole of Norway

It’s the official nsf scarf

[oblique rover]

Norway is a region of earth

Locational

[kind meadow]

Norsk speiderforening

[kind meadow]

Region usually refers to an area such as Hudson Bay coast or rockies, if I were to call Canada a region I’d be wrong because the only thing that makes Canada a thing is the national borders we’ve decided are there

No linguistic barriers really

Natural? Barely

It’s a country sure

But it sure as hell ain’t a region

[oblique rover]

This is the alberta tartan, in necker form it represents my council which is a specific region in alberta

[oblique rover]

Depends on how you are using the word

[kind meadow]

Correctly

[oblique rover]

Oxford dictionary definition for region "an area or division, especially part of a country or the world having definable characteristics but not always fixed boundaries."

Canada is region, a definable characteristic could be the monarchy

[kind meadow]

If you said cold and it’s a monarchy I’d just think you were talking about Norway

Or Sweden

Or heck

Fuckin the uk

[kind meadow]

So like bruh

[kind meadow]

So like bruh

[oblique rover]

since you really want to die on this hill, I'll rephrase my original statement

tartan neckers tend to represent places

[ornate solstice]

these ar echeap

[oblique rover]

Depends on the tartan

[kind owl]

if its proper material then here its double the price of standard neckers

[ornate solstice]

i bought like 19 of those at 2 camps 1 in scotland and 1 in the us

[oblique rover]

Idk it was just the first tartan necker that came up on google

[proud drift]

Language kiddo

[kind meadow]

Hold kjeft hurpe

[proud drift]

gjentar, språkbruk!'

[kind meadow]

Nei

[ornate solstice]

well he is gone i guess trotskieists arent good scouts

[kind owl]

Damn, I wanted to ask him if he enjoyed silverstone/our local area

[jaunty hawk]

did he already leave?

[covert crystal]

No he didn’t follow rules

@jaunty hawk

[jaunty hawk]

Oh, what did he do?

[covert crystal]

Disrespectful towards other scouters @jaunty hawk

[jaunty hawk]

I see

[oblique rover]

In what way

[covert crystal]

I’m not sharing how he was but trust us, he was. it wasn’t me who yeeted him. I’m just answering a question

If you know he wants to be unbanned then he can either appeal to the email in #camp-rules-old or dm a mod

[oblique rover]

I thought he was annoying

Bad scout

[subtle shell]

I know that there is one of the norwegian scarfs that you aren't allowed to trade, which gives it alot more value

[jaunty hawk]

which one is that?

the national necker or?

[proud drift]

Trekløver gilwell? Den er felles i WOSM

[subtle shell]

nei, det var vell noen år tilbake da felleskjerfet ikkje var lov å bytte vekk

[proud drift]

Åja, nja. De sa det om skjerfa til de som dro til Japan fikk siden det ble bare ca så mange til å fylle kontigenten

Så hvis du bytta ditt den gangen så hadde du ikke fått bestillt ny

[subtle shell]

Stemmer det, husker det var noen greier med at du måtte søke for å kjøpe det

[noble reef]

iirc official necker here costs around like $2-$3

[subtle shell]

Damn, I pay 12-15 bucks for a necker

[noble reef]

Wtf that's expensive

Jk as I have seen necker prices at ebay it's reaspnable

also the scouts pride is around that price

12-13 aight but 15 bucks for an official necker is expensive imo

[proud drift]

I get them for free

[proud drift]

In Norway prices are higher since we earn more, for us 15$ is nothing

[noble reef]

damn

true

[jaunty hawk]

We get our group scarf for free, but we pay 150 dkk (around 20 usd) for our national scarf

[kind owl]

neckers here shouldnt cost anything more than £4 to £8.50 ($5 to $11)

group one is provided, national necker is £8.50 if you are buying extra

[noble reef]

Damn that's expensive as hell

interesting

[jaunty hawk]

Imo its a bit overpriced but its fairly priced according to what we earn

[lilac anvil]

Irish international neckerchiefs now cost €19 for those who get the permission from the international commissioner to buy them so they’re going to become even more scarce in future

I’m away with my group right now and we decided not to get them because that’s an extortionate price for a neckerchief

they used to be €12

[marsh garnet]

our unit scarfs are free

and alot of vintage American neckerchiefs are cheap

mostly because we dont wear it on the daily

like we used to

[lean vector]

That is true. I find that a lot of the adults and even some youth try to find excuses to wear their uniforms as little as possible lol

[marsh garnet]

on the other side the spectrum

You gotta wear the socks to meetings lol

here

[lean vector]

Oh I know I’m on the opposite and so is the unit’s SM. If there’s an excuse to get out the class A we totally do it

[ornate solstice]

I understand the uniform but a necker is like nothing and everyone knows a scout wears a necker

[covert crystal]

I always wanna wear my uniform, for Aussies the uniform is so expensive and I feel like it’s such a waste due to not wearing it much. If you’re a leader or youth helper you wear it once a week

[oblique rover]

Me finding excuses to wear my uniform 🙃

[proud drift]

How much is the Gilwell scarf/necker worth?

[marsh garnet]

like thes standard woodbadge one?

[proud drift]

This

[marsh garnet]

I meant that one

well its not the most valuable ofc

its prob like less than 13 dollars usd?

not inculding the woggle

[proud drift]

Thats when buying it, but in a trading sense on camp(:

[jaunty hawk]

likely not much, if its just a random scout. but if its a scout who knows a bit about scarves, it will probably be worth something for them

[marsh garnet]

typically means more to scouters

not scouts but yeah

[proud drift]

I thought this channel was for scouters trading inbetween eachother

[marsh garnet]

Mostly scouters

scouts are fine as well

theres a few here

[proud drift]

Føck that swedish name, we are SPEIDERE!

[jaunty hawk]

SPEJDERE ON TOP

[proud drift]

🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾

[ornate solstice]

Gilwell/woodbadge scouts aren't allowed to trade it and even in some nso's you get stripped from being a gilwell/woodbadge scout

[oblique rover]

I agree with this

[subtle shell]

you got one?

[proud drift]

20 års grense i Norge):

[subtle shell]

ukult, har den på watchlisten, er typ noe de fleste ledertrenere/styremedlemmer i kretsen har

[uneven grove]

Anyone wanna trade scarfs with me?

[kind owl]

I would be interested :)

[jaunty hawk]

Which country Are you from @uneven grove

[uneven grove]

Cyprus

[uneven grove]

Great!

[lunar olive]

Sure

[lean vector]

I’d also be interested in a Cypriot scarf. I did study abroad in Nicosia 😸

[uneven grove]

Really??

The University of Cyprus?

[lean vector]

It was Intercollege actually

Oh wait...they changed their name so it was University of Nicosia

[kind owl]

Oh wow, that sounds like a really cool experience, I think one of the places im looking at has a campus in Pyla

Ill go look for my stuff to trade

[uneven grove]

Oh, where are you from??

[kind owl]

I am from the UK

[uneven grove]

Oh, whereabouts exactly?

[jaunty hawk]

york

[kind owl]

Im from Northampton, in the east midlands

[noble reef]

Wait is this the red one with like the stripes of the norway flag?

how much does that cost?

also $15?

[jaunty hawk]

13.82 usd

and then shipping

and their normal scarf is 11.05 usd

[noble reef]

That trade I made 2m ago was a bargain then with my $2 necker

[jaunty hawk]

well yes, but personally i dont trade in value, more in how cool i think they are

[kind owl]

^

[jaunty hawk]

also where the necker is from

i dont need many more national neckers to have all of northern europe

which is my goal

[noble reef]

you could sell that necker I had in norway for a way higher price though, same with the norway contingent thing I have I saw someone on fb sell it for $23 here

[noble reef]

Good point

[kind owl]

which ones are you missing

[jaunty hawk]

me?

[kind owl]

yeah

[jaunty hawk]

I need the British/uk one, Icelandic and Finnish

as well as latvian and estonian, although i couldnt find a picture of them

[kind owl]

I can sort ya that

[noble reef]

I got a british wsj contingent idk if that counts lol

[kind owl]

yeah, its a national one

its fairly uncommon to find someone using the standard UK ones cause most intl trips will usually have them customised

[jaunty hawk]

which one?

[kind owl]

uk

[jaunty hawk]

cool

do you want the danish one?

[kind owl]

ya, the red one with like the white border with silhouttes?

[jaunty hawk]

yeah exactly

[kind owl]

sound, you want the standard version?

[jaunty hawk]

yh sure

i only have the danish standard one

[kind owl]

np

[jaunty hawk]

do you have them at home or do you need to buy one before?

[kind owl]

I just collect intl neckers regardless

probably got one lying around somewhere

lemme check

[jaunty hawk]

did you find one?

[kind owl]

yeah, I have a brand new one

[jaunty hawk]

oh cool