#Purple Church

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marsh ice
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@gilded gate Where did the game go? Where a minority says something and is right, where a lvl 600+ makes more xp than a lvl 750 in the last hunt of the game. You want to prevent the development of the game from taking away the level. Lbk does 7.5kk solo player, while 5 players don't even do 6kk an hour, absurd, you messed with the game just to help the minority who don't have access and don't have fingers to hunt in the last hunt of the game. Sad end, good luck to the bad players and no access, because they did benefit.

vivid jetty
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now the hunt seems pretty fair, the top hunt/risk in the game doing less exp than any other hunt i can hunt solo or in duo, trio, squad, do u have a idea that even in corruptor solo i can do more exp than this hunt rn? dont make any sense, or should all hunts be adjusted so no one can do a good exp anymore dont matter the level? @gilded gate

solemn horizon
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What a waste of time this spawn is....worthless

livid brook
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Just remove this hunting place its no point going there anymore and make cursed soulheart a quest item. This spawn will just gather dust.

pliant birch
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Noone will go there unless for looting souls for his/teammates eq

silk rock
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add a level door 600+ to this spot and make it broken exp then all the high levels can stop crying and the low level abusers can stfu

solemn horizon
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Its not crying, this place is suppose to be The best place to hunt for high lvl, but gives way less xp than a level 400+ hunting zone

silk rock
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thats what im saying its justified exp for 600+ the way it was before otherwise its not

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and it was hunted by people around 500~ even lower on shooters

solemn horizon
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What is The point to go there? Just a waste of content and effort

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As i said 7.5kk with boost is fair

livid brook
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Its shouldnt be a door for 600, how is it fair? It should be a palce for everyone who is in share range

silk rock
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well it would be a solution so it cant be abused by low lvls but anyway i doubt its gonna change again anytime soon

marsh ice
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Congratulations to the boys of the pendulum, they managed to screw all the players because they don't have the ability to hunt in the hunt, this harmed us and the eternum, that is, a small group of people screwed with several others, absurd!

vivid jetty
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1 hour will be like 5.9kk xDDD with boost with levels 600-700

solemn horizon
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The mobs dmg are suppose to be The softlock of the spawn

marsh ice
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How can you agree to that? People from both worlds should complain, not just us.

silk rock
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that softlock only exists for eks any shooter 400+ can join and get massive exp

solemn horizon
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Lol

livid brook
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its a handfull of EKs who actually can block there and still high risk of dying.

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So its not "only" and any shooter 400 can join.

silk rock
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yes and for those people it was somewhat justified to get higher exp but u are 450? rp? u think its fine to get 10kk/H?

livid brook
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I didnt get 10kk, i got 7.5kk for a real time hour..

solemn horizon
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They will not have The dmg

livid brook
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my boost was 1.2h and got 9.5kk eldrin confirmed it when i gave him my name

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and i was hunting with lvl 550 - 650k ek

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and im 480 rp

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still for the risks of dying, that place should be 7.5kk per hour its 1.7kk more than corrupters and corrupters i close my eyes and hunt

silk rock
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you could get close to 10kk/h if u bring the right shooters even if u are the only "lower lvl" in your group

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thats the issue

solemn horizon
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Msybe if they put this 4 mobs they removed should solve it?

livid brook
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And its not like its risk free as a shooter u miss a mwall and u dead

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It changes target and 10k mana gone in 1 second

clever sparrow
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10kk/h exp and waste all party members is Good too.. the problem in my opinion is 10kk/h and Good profit

silk rock
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everyone whos complaining about these nerfs is playing 3x i think so even if it had 0 loot noone would care

livid brook
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So u think players in legacy will go there when it’s 5.8kk per hour?

silk rock
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if they need the items for sure after that not so much but probably every now and then

livid brook
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so another content that takes up space for nothing

vivid jetty
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in team hunts around sheol, pts and even solo's of lvl 400 can do like 4-5kk ~ , pt of lvls 500-600 can do 5-6kk~, i was expectating it to be atleast 7.5-8kk in a high end pt of 600+, but omg, in the hunt that should be the best in terms of exp for high levels 5.9,kk/h thats just too bad haha

solemn horizon
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Where is Eldrin? 2 strong feedbacks about The spawn... The xp hour is not even reaching The amount He said

marsh ice
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Come on, congratulations! THE LAST BASEMENT IN THE GAME, BEING A WORSE BASEMENT THAN ALL THE OTHERS. @gilded gate

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Remembering that we still lost 12 minutes of boost!

livid brook
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yes they do i watched it live

gilded gate
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Team size?

livid brook
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it goes down from 6.2kk on the break point - 4.7kk

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4 shooters

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You shouldnt remove 4 mobs, just 2 would be fine.

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Now they are trying with 5 shooters, but the problem isnt the break. Its the exp, with all due respect, its trash.

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You removed 4 Mobs, thats 1.2 ish kk (raw) + you decreased the exp from the mobs.

marsh ice
solemn horizon
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Think you will need to put back the 4 mobs and lower to 740sec

gilded gate
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So it's roughly the amount as it is intended. It should be ~4.9-5kk in team of 4. With boost it is 7.5kk.

vivid jetty
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5.8kk with boost

livid brook
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team of 4? xD

silk escarp
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4 shooters, right?!

livid brook
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3 shooters? then you need to put a rune NPC seller there.

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Just add back 2 mobs and it will be fair for the risks there.

stark widget
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what risk? with dawnlight u lose nearly 3kk a death

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holy, ur crying too much

gilded gate
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4 players in total. That's what was intended from the beginning of the spawn. Roughly half of the players hunt there as team of 4, some as larger groups to compensate the lack of levels.

livid brook
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Nobody hunts there as a team of 4. Not in Progeny at least.

livid brook
stark widget
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he does, not you

livid brook
stark widget
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stop begging to boost a spawn that is broken so you can try to win a war with levels again

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ur just wasting staff time

livid brook
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becasue you know about this stuff? do u even have a char or just another slave bullshiter?=

stark widget
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keep begging

snow girder
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Maybe try it as a team of 4 as Eldrin said. If the numbers check out

gilded gate
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The team must have levels high enough too. For example, 3 shooters with level 450 will not be able to break the spawn.

glad violet
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u probably need lvl 600 shooters for that, not a lvl 600 knight carrying some lowlvl noobs from 400 to 500 in a matter of days

livid brook
gilded gate
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Team of 4x 650 levels.

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Also, many of you compare the spawn to corruptor spawn, which is another topic. The hunting zone may give too much experience per hour than intended, if you combine it with other spawns, etc.

weak pond
marsh ice
harsh fulcrum
gilded gate
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The dynamically changing spawn time is one of the planned features, so even if now the hunting zone is intended for team of 4, after introduction of the system you may have more experience per hour as team of 6 than you do now.

gilded gate
harsh fulcrum
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You guys should probably shut up before every spawn is nerfed FacepalmPepe1

marsh ice
gilded gate
weak pond
glad violet
gilded gate
# weak pond

You realise it will be fixed, right? If you won't be in a party that shares experience, mages getting all the experience will not be viable anymore.

weak pond
gilded gate
# weak pond

If you are not going to provide any feedback then I would ask you to stop spamming the thread.

livid brook
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So tell me where are we supposed to hunt with lvl 450s-650 without breaking all damn spawns and you keep decreasing the hourly exp?

vivid jetty
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i dont get it

livid brook
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And dont tell me all sapwns is intended as DUO.. we want to hunt as a team, you should make spawns more suitable for bigger teams.

marsh ice
gilded gate
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Releasing it now will be a catastrophe. You would get unreasonable amount of experience on current teamhunting zones. 7kk on manticores? Sounds nice.

livid brook
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May i ask then what will be the intended exp/h for this system? (raw exp)

solemn horizon
bitter pelican
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Well dynamic respawn has been in the works for about 2 years, so probably another 2

solemn horizon
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so no good content till then?

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Thats just boring lol

bitter pelican
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Eldrin alrdy mentioned next major patch is spawns for higher lvls for exp

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Something like that

solemn horizon
gilded gate
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This may be the easiest example to understand. It does not mean it will look exactly like that, but just for those who are not aware of what the system is:
#1118527799880331415 message

bitter pelican
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which if i were to guess is a few months out

glad violet
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dont confront sirflokito with facts, he wants 10kk/h with lvl 450 shooters or boring

solemn horizon
bitter pelican
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But u guys wanna farm bis gear with 10kk per hr and saying it’s not game breaking is kinda xD

solemn horizon
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7.5kk/h ish in a hour

bitter pelican
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even 7.5kk is too much

glad violet
gilded gate
# solemn horizon How many months we will need to wait for this?

First of all, the tracker must be 100% accurate. That is the base. After that spawns must be adjusted and spawn timers converted to solo exp value. For example, if Church of Anchegul is for 4 players, then spawn time must increase by a specific amount, so it later gets decreased by the system to current value.

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There is no ETA and I cannot tell you how much more time it will take.

bitter pelican
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One little thing

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Limiting a spawn like that to 4 people is kinda detrimental

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limits the amount of people that can have something to do

marsh ice
livid brook
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But dont you think 4 mobs was to much to remove?

jaunty relic
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Rip medivia

silk rock
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did anyone see this coming a few years back when 1kk/h was normal that people would cry about only 7.5kk/h?

glad violet
stark widget
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did anyone see this coming a year ago where level cap was 610 and now 750s are complaining that u cant take a level a day?

silk rock
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did anyone see this coming that a level >500 is complaining about only getting 5.7kk/h at corruptor as the best spawn for him?

solemn horizon
mortal skiff
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good fix, only few months to late

jagged sandal
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@Eldrin have you ever played the game. Because in my opinion if you did you would make listen to the community not a. Bunch trolls.

jaunty relic
native flax
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ppl talking about LBK gotta be from high rates, i hunted there a bit and went broke rly fast and that was me doing it the cheap way. not hotkey highrate server sd everything, auto drink manas, auto swap ssa and so on

I don't think im ever going back there unless it's some event maybe

also if it was that damn op every MS on legacy would be sitting there 24/7

but also i dont care if they nerf it to hell as its not even that viable on normal servers anyway

Would be cool if Eldrin or someone could put out some data on top exp in 1 hour there and maybe exclude hotkey servers cuz they r kinda cheating anyway, it's like playing with bot and fuck balancing around hotket servers+highrates.

silver pollen
analog sluice
livid brook
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hahahahha

bitter pelican
silk rock
native flax
# bitter pelican stop the hk server cope spawn has been broken for years

tell me why ppl rnt hunting there then

also as i said nerf it to hell, i dont care. it's p2w spawn deluxe anyway

@silk rock u can hold down sd hotkey and just press next target, u can hold down mana. u dont even have to play with a mouse. the only thing u do is looting with it on a hotkey server. and if its an highrate on top of that u might aswell play with a playstaion or xbox controller rofl

sleek pumice
jagged sandal
ornate notch
# native flax tell me why ppl rnt hunting there then also as i said nerf it to hell, i dont c...

Tell us you don’t have a life. You’d rather waste more time clicking a rune than a hotkey, must be pure enjoyment throwing a pick on the floor right clicking and left clicking 10x to get an ore 😂 Holy shit it’s a video game let us waste our time away playing the way we enjoy and we’ll let you waste yours away playing slow paced doing shit on a lvl 400 we can do in a lvl 300

delicate hill
# ornate notch Tell us you don’t have a life. You’d rather waste more time clicking a rune than...

Play what you want to play. I would probably like hotkeys, but I also like playing without it. You're more involved when you don't have hotkeys, as there is a heavier emphasis on the human element; failure.

3x loot seems to be the only people complaining about LBKs, it is an incredibly good spawn for exp, and from what I can gather it's also profit on 3x (Correct me if I'm wrong).

All of these added together makes the feedback from these players not really valid for game balance. It is for their server, but their server isn't supposed to be balanced in the first place, making it a dismal comparison.

solemn horizon
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@gilded gate can you please atleast bring back 2-3 of the mobs?

livid brook
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[Progeny][20:54:05] Bager killed at level 672 by an abysmor.

Hes an EK. No risk? for that shit exp? Its a fucking trash place. Increase the damn exp there or deleted that place from the map.

mortal skiff
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😂 please 10kk/h i didnt abuse it enough, @gilded gate Remove slow-time

silk rock
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[Progeny][20:50:57] Lucine killed at level 477 by a venerator. Venerator also needs to be 10kk/h confirmed

stable yarrow
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This was exhausting to read. Glade devs still have 0 idea how to balance spawn, at least it was more public this time. 🤣

livid brook
analog sluice
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We Made 5.3kk per h 1 blocker + 3 shooters 500+, we didn't have to wait for spwan as 3 shooter.

trim kayak
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Eldrin, you nerfed the spawn too hard. maths;
abysmor 66402 exp, priest 62320 exp, in 1 round = 8x abysmos, 6x priest = 905k exp
780 sec resp time
3600 / 780 = 4,6
4,6 *905 = 4,16kk exp
that is if you totally MAX the spawn
like if you 1 shot the monsters
team of 4, 1 blocker 3 shooters btw

gilded gate
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I did notice that experience per hour was lower than intended, but before I make adjustments I have question to players who were hunting there today. Was the spawn timer alright now, or did you still had to wait?

potent hull
gilded gate
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Grab 4 players who all try to buff the spawn to the fullest and don't even report OP spawn, good try. I am going to assume the spawn time is fine then, it was taken from the logs but I just wanted to confirm. The average team size on this spawn is 4.95, so from now on I will also balance it more towards 5-man party size. This means that 4 man parties will be able to reach even more experience, if they have very high level.

potent hull
gilded gate
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I cannot force them to try their best. Unfortunately it is not possible to trust this kind of data. On the other hand, most people try their best when they actually gain experience, which is why I am going to rely on the data from live servers.

royal canopy
stable yarrow
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You just grab average players, not players near the top, plenty of players actually want the game to continue and would not mind sacrificing an hour or more to help improve the game.

Data is easily trusted, the community actually gives a fuck.

solemn horizon
# gilded gate Grab 4 players who all try to buff the spawn to the fullest and don't even repor...

With 4 man party size we were doing 3.8kk/h, dropping for 3.6kk sometimes. <- this was not breaking
With 5 man we were breaking hard -3-4minutes. Xp was even lower.
To me the spawn seems empty... idk maybe put 2-3 mobs (but this with 5 man part would break) and increase a little bit the xp wield for each monster. Monster have a huge life pool, for a 4man party it mean that the xp per kill should be increased a bit.

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Tbh that spawn should a 5 man party spawn and right tunned to that

silver pollen
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The thing is you shouldnt count the ek as one of the shooters tbh it should be 1ek and 4 shooters and u told us if we exp as 4 only we would make 7.5kk and it wasnt true we made maximum 5.2kk with boost, the place is basically trashcan now unless it fixed or remove it

mortal skiff
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spawn was totally balanced, please 10kk/h again

silver pollen
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Morocco is totally trashcan now

vivid jetty
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the resapwn will be fixed next ss?

potent hull
marsh ice
harsh fulcrum
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Buff EKs!

@native flax stop trying to save your OP exping spot.

marble zodiac
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The respawn is perfect 👍🏼

livid brook
solemn horizon
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@gilded gate there wont be anymore changes on this spawn?

gilded gate
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There will be some adjustments in near future. No ETA for now.

vivid jetty
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6.2kk with boost exp team of 4 600-700, waiting for 2.5 min per lap, its funny, to nerf the spawn to the point that is useless to hunt there took 2 days, now that you guys make a mistake no "eta" for now.. pepeOK

solemn horizon
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The solution is really simple... no ETA? 2-4 months without any good place for high lvl to hunt? C'mon!

snow girder
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If the wait time is 2.5min and exp is a bit too low just add back 2-3 mobs and it's perfect no?

livid brook
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Just add 2 of the 4 mobs you removed and it’s solved.

vivid jetty
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i think its to much effort to lower spawntime a little bit, or increase slightly the exp of the monster, or even add 3 monters in total both spawn so it will be a acceptable hunt for hls..

gilded gate
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Huh.

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It will come in max few days. But no ETA, so I can't tell you if it will be added tomorrow or in 2 days.

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We rarely do patches on weekends.

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It does not mean that there will be no changes for months.

vivid jetty
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in total they removed like 5 monsters, there are plenty of ways to fix it, decreasing a little bit spawn time, add 3 more monsters from the 5 tht where removed or even increase a little bit the exp that is a low exp for the health ratio

gilded gate
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I don't want anyone to later cry, send screenshots that something was "promised" on Tuesday but over the weekend something happened that made it impossible to patch it that day and had to be moved to Wednesday.

solemn horizon
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Hello can we have a Nice starting of the week? Is it possible you pls put 3-4 more mobs and inscrease xp a little bit to fix this spawn?

fickle vapor
vivid jetty
opaque sonnet
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Eldriin, when patch? MonkaT

vivid jetty
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No ETA seems like, when its too good 1 day to fix, when its too bad 1 month i guess

gilded gate
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After the next patch spawn time of creatures will be reduced from 780s to 600s.

bitter pelican
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Where the increased exp tho

livid brook
marsh ice
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NEVER

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NEVERRR

solemn horizon
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Patch when? Seems to be a simple change

livid brook
solemn horizon
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Today is wed

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Well guess today already ended kekw

bitter pelican
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Don’t worry bro this patch will be a crazy one (fixes to the patch that happened last month)

open hill
solemn horizon
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No patch friday

jagged sandal
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What is a patch?

marsh ice
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I wonder the level of incompetence of the company, the day it was to end respaw it was in just 1 minute with (/i 0000). Now to fix the shit that was done 3 weeks ago? They want to rewind the game by making everyone hunt for corruptor, congratulations. But don't give up hope that you'll be competent to fix the huge shit done. If it was to limit the level, just talk.

dusk haven
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How much exp u guys wanna get out of this church? Changing spawn timer from 780-600 won't be enough?

bitter pelican
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nobody even knows wat exp it'll be lol its just taken them a month to change it again

gilded gate
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You can calculate it pretty easily.

bitter pelican
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as proven in the past math doesnt really math on here so only way is to test the spawn wen the change happens

gilded gate
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You may not be able to calculate the exact exp/h but at least you can get an estimation. You can expect about 23% more experience per hour.

gilded gate
dusk haven
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And that they should be fakking happy with I think, wtf 10kk/h for a squad of people gonna make ppl lvl 1000 in no time and how is that gonna be for the games future? More lvl stops?

But having respawn downtime sucks anus tbh

harsh fulcrum
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imagine complaining about 6 to 8 kk/hr kekw

elfin pendant
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Nobody is complaining, at least i dont, but i also dont see a reason to go there now for same exp that im making solo, anytime i want, and my friends who all are SD hunting vocations can get even better results solo

pliant birch
marsh ice
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The problem is that it's 3 weeks and nothing yet, how many more weeks will we have to hunt in the 500 lvl basement? Is this a punishment?

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It would be more honest for you to say it's a punishment

native flax
delicate hill
# native flax So this spawn will be 5kk/h without boost? Sounds high?

that's if you'd break it 4man with the new timer coming next patch, which even the 650 team won't be doing according to what they said themselves. They said they were breaking it by 2.5min, not far from breaking it but still about 30sec to go on, of course it can change depending on what/how many mechanics they get in a full round and so on.

copper zephyr
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So what's the XP/h there now?

elfin pendant
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4,2kk/h avg, 4,5kk/h peak for 5 ppl party

harsh fulcrum
glad violet
elfin pendant
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idk, @vivid jetty would have to go and test

fickle vapor
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This exp is with event too I suppose

native flax
sand saddle
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if I'm not wrong its theoretical maximum of 5,4kk, more realistically 5,2kk in 4 man team. Obviously no one has firepower to break it yet.