@gilded gate Where did the game go? Where a minority says something and is right, where a lvl 600+ makes more xp than a lvl 750 in the last hunt of the game. You want to prevent the development of the game from taking away the level. Lbk does 7.5kk solo player, while 5 players don't even do 6kk an hour, absurd, you messed with the game just to help the minority who don't have access and don't have fingers to hunt in the last hunt of the game. Sad end, good luck to the bad players and no access, because they did benefit.
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now the hunt seems pretty fair, the top hunt/risk in the game doing less exp than any other hunt i can hunt solo or in duo, trio, squad, do u have a idea that even in corruptor solo i can do more exp than this hunt rn? dont make any sense, or should all hunts be adjusted so no one can do a good exp anymore dont matter the level? @gilded gate
What a waste of time this spawn is....worthless
Just remove this hunting place its no point going there anymore and make cursed soulheart a quest item. This spawn will just gather dust.
Noone will go there unless for looting souls for his/teammates eq
add a level door 600+ to this spot and make it broken exp then all the high levels can stop crying and the low level abusers can stfu
Its not crying, this place is suppose to be The best place to hunt for high lvl, but gives way less xp than a level 400+ hunting zone
thats what im saying its justified exp for 600+ the way it was before otherwise its not
and it was hunted by people around 500~ even lower on shooters
What is The point to go there? Just a waste of content and effort
As i said 7.5kk with boost is fair
Its shouldnt be a door for 600, how is it fair? It should be a palce for everyone who is in share range
well it would be a solution so it cant be abused by low lvls but anyway i doubt its gonna change again anytime soon
Congratulations to the boys of the pendulum, they managed to screw all the players because they don't have the ability to hunt in the hunt, this harmed us and the eternum, that is, a small group of people screwed with several others, absurd!
1 hour will be like 5.9kk xDDD with boost with levels 600-700
The mobs dmg are suppose to be The softlock of the spawn
How can you agree to that? People from both worlds should complain, not just us.
that softlock only exists for eks any shooter 400+ can join and get massive exp
Better to go corruptor
Lol
its a handfull of EKs who actually can block there and still high risk of dying.
So its not "only" and any shooter 400 can join.
yes and for those people it was somewhat justified to get higher exp but u are 450? rp? u think its fine to get 10kk/H?
I didnt get 10kk, i got 7.5kk for a real time hour..
They will not have The dmg
my boost was 1.2h and got 9.5kk eldrin confirmed it when i gave him my name
and i was hunting with lvl 550 - 650k ek
and im 480 rp
still for the risks of dying, that place should be 7.5kk per hour its 1.7kk more than corrupters and corrupters i close my eyes and hunt
you could get close to 10kk/h if u bring the right shooters even if u are the only "lower lvl" in your group
thats the issue
Msybe if they put this 4 mobs they removed should solve it?
And its not like its risk free as a shooter u miss a mwall and u dead
It changes target and 10k mana gone in 1 second
10kk/h exp and waste all party members is Good too.. the problem in my opinion is 10kk/h and Good profit
everyone whos complaining about these nerfs is playing 3x i think so even if it had 0 loot noone would care
So u think players in legacy will go there when it’s 5.8kk per hour?
if they need the items for sure after that not so much but probably every now and then
so another content that takes up space for nothing
in team hunts around sheol, pts and even solo's of lvl 400 can do like 4-5kk ~ , pt of lvls 500-600 can do 5-6kk~, i was expectating it to be atleast 7.5-8kk in a high end pt of 600+, but omg, in the hunt that should be the best in terms of exp for high levels 5.9,kk/h thats just too bad haha
Where is Eldrin? 2 strong feedbacks about The spawn... The xp hour is not even reaching The amount He said
Come on, congratulations! THE LAST BASEMENT IN THE GAME, BEING A WORSE BASEMENT THAN ALL THE OTHERS. @gilded gate
Remembering that we still lost 12 minutes of boost!
Do you break the spawn?
yes they do i watched it live
Team size?
it goes down from 6.2kk on the break point - 4.7kk
4 shooters
You shouldnt remove 4 mobs, just 2 would be fine.
Now they are trying with 5 shooters, but the problem isnt the break. Its the exp, with all due respect, its trash.
You removed 4 Mobs, thats 1.2 ish kk (raw) + you decreased the exp from the mobs.
5 peaplo 600+
Think you will need to put back the 4 mobs and lower to 740sec
So it's roughly the amount as it is intended. It should be ~4.9-5kk in team of 4. With boost it is 7.5kk.
5.8kk with boost
team of 4? xD
its not that lol
4 shooters, right?!
3 shooters? then you need to put a rune NPC seller there.
Just add back 2 mobs and it will be fair for the risks there.
4 players in total. That's what was intended from the beginning of the spawn. Roughly half of the players hunt there as team of 4, some as larger groups to compensate the lack of levels.
Nobody hunts there as a team of 4. Not in Progeny at least.
radshots looses 13kk each loss + 200 mc
he does, not you
Well im speaking in general not only for me, you know im thinking about the whole picture, and stfu go back to work
stop begging to boost a spawn that is broken so you can try to win a war with levels again
ur just wasting staff time
becasue you know about this stuff? do u even have a char or just another slave bullshiter?=
keep begging
Maybe try it as a team of 4 as Eldrin said. If the numbers check out
The team must have levels high enough too. For example, 3 shooters with level 450 will not be able to break the spawn.
u probably need lvl 600 shooters for that, not a lvl 600 knight carrying some lowlvl noobs from 400 to 500 in a matter of days
So tell me what levels is intended for a team of 4 and we gonna try it out.
Team of 4x 650 levels.
Also, many of you compare the spawn to corruptor spawn, which is another topic. The hunting zone may give too much experience per hour than intended, if you combine it with other spawns, etc.
useless to waste time on that, trust me
4X 450, shouldn't hunt here, your math is totally wrong, being that a mage lvl 600 solo does 7.5kk in lbk

The dynamically changing spawn time is one of the planned features, so even if now the hunting zone is intended for team of 4, after introduction of the system you may have more experience per hour as team of 6 than you do now.
Same thing, solo players hunting teamhunting zones while being overleveled. This also has to be fixed.
You guys should probably shut up before every spawn is nerfed 
That's it, if it's going to hurt just some people, it's not worth it, you have to hurt the whole game
And of course, they shouldn't be hunting there. I just mentioned it that players with that level will not break the spawn and should not be suprised they don't reach the highest exp per hour.
ye, lbk needs to be cropped together with dynamic spawn timers, its a lvl 200 spawn, it shouldnt break at 5kk for a single heavily outlvld solo player. make it 2kk duo or whatever it is for two lvl 300s duoing there and accordingly less for solo players
You realise it will be fixed, right? If you won't be in a party that shares experience, mages getting all the experience will not be viable anymore.
So you gonna destroy that too?
If you are not going to provide any feedback then I would ask you to stop spamming the thread.
So tell me where are we supposed to hunt with lvl 450s-650 without breaking all damn spawns and you keep decreasing the hourly exp?
i dont get it
And dont tell me all sapwns is intended as DUO.. we want to hunt as a team, you should make spawns more suitable for bigger teams.
Despite the joke, there were years of these Respaws, guys doing 6kk+ XP an hour, and now that we've earned the best Respaw in the game, we only do 5.8kk an hour, it's not fair
Once again, dynamic spawn timers. Once the hunting zones are fixed, the system will be activated. It won't matter if the spawn is for solo or duo, even in team of 5 you will have around the same experience per hour.
Releasing it now will be a catastrophe. You would get unreasonable amount of experience on current teamhunting zones. 7kk on manticores? Sounds nice.
May i ask then what will be the intended exp/h for this system? (raw exp)
How many months we will need to wait for this?
Well dynamic respawn has been in the works for about 2 years, so probably another 2

Eldrin alrdy mentioned next major patch is spawns for higher lvls for exp
Something like that
this one is supose to be for high lvl, loot at the amount of xp, Worthless
This may be the easiest example to understand. It does not mean it will look exactly like that, but just for those who are not aware of what the system is:
#1118527799880331415 message
which if i were to guess is a few months out
dont confront sirflokito with facts, he wants 10kk/h with lvl 450 shooters or boring
Dude shut up, are you dumb? 10kk in 80 minutes
But u guys wanna farm bis gear with 10kk per hr and saying it’s not game breaking is kinda xD
7.5kk/h ish in a hour
even 7.5kk is too much
well in that case u shouldnt be crying, its still 7.5kk now in a party of 4, get the lvl intended for the spawn and ur good
First of all, the tracker must be 100% accurate. That is the base. After that spawns must be adjusted and spawn timers converted to solo exp value. For example, if Church of Anchegul is for 4 players, then spawn time must increase by a specific amount, so it later gets decreased by the system to current value.
There is no ETA and I cannot tell you how much more time it will take.
One little thing
Limiting a spawn like that to 4 people is kinda detrimental
limits the amount of people that can have something to do
My dear friend, at least put the fair one, put the xp higher than the curruptor's, at least it has to be 7.8kk~8kk per boost, the game is balanced, you don't need to change the whole game because of 4 people from the pendulum. Let's do it right! Put your hand on your conscience!
But dont you think 4 mobs was to much to remove?
Rip medivia
did anyone see this coming a few years back when 1kk/h was normal that people would cry about only 7.5kk/h?
lvl 450s no longer 10kk xp/h, get me out of here, ima play something else
did anyone see this coming a year ago where level cap was 610 and now 750s are complaining that u cant take a level a day?
did anyone see this coming that a level >500 is complaining about only getting 5.7kk/h at corruptor as the best spawn for him?
bye, you wont be missed
good fix, only few months to late
@Eldrin have you ever played the game. Because in my opinion if you did you would make listen to the community not a. Bunch trolls.
Are you for or against the nerf
ppl talking about LBK gotta be from high rates, i hunted there a bit and went broke rly fast and that was me doing it the cheap way. not hotkey highrate server sd everything, auto drink manas, auto swap ssa and so on
I don't think im ever going back there unless it's some event maybe
also if it was that damn op every MS on legacy would be sitting there 24/7
but also i dont care if they nerf it to hell as its not even that viable on normal servers anyway
Would be cool if Eldrin or someone could put out some data on top exp in 1 hour there and maybe exclude hotkey servers cuz they r kinda cheating anyway, it's like playing with bot and fuck balancing around hotket servers+highrates.
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stop the hk server cope spawn has been broken for years
u mostly wave on lbk doesnt make a big diff if u have hotkeys or not only mana timing is gonna be better but if u have all spells bound to mouse even that difference isnt that big its more exhausting tho for sure
tell me why ppl rnt hunting there then
also as i said nerf it to hell, i dont care. it's p2w spawn deluxe anyway
@silk rock u can hold down sd hotkey and just press next target, u can hold down mana. u dont even have to play with a mouse. the only thing u do is looting with it on a hotkey server. and if its an highrate on top of that u might aswell play with a playstaion or xbox controller rofl
That would now make 3 updates post floating isles with no pvp update, even though it was supposed to be following floating isles. I hope not.
against because its even harder to bridge the gap to high lvls now atleast some people who was 400 to 500 was progressing now wat we gonna do well... tbh back to corruptors w00t lol
Tell us you don’t have a life. You’d rather waste more time clicking a rune than a hotkey, must be pure enjoyment throwing a pick on the floor right clicking and left clicking 10x to get an ore 😂 Holy shit it’s a video game let us waste our time away playing the way we enjoy and we’ll let you waste yours away playing slow paced doing shit on a lvl 400 we can do in a lvl 300
Play what you want to play. I would probably like hotkeys, but I also like playing without it. You're more involved when you don't have hotkeys, as there is a heavier emphasis on the human element; failure.
3x loot seems to be the only people complaining about LBKs, it is an incredibly good spawn for exp, and from what I can gather it's also profit on 3x (Correct me if I'm wrong).
All of these added together makes the feedback from these players not really valid for game balance. It is for their server, but their server isn't supposed to be balanced in the first place, making it a dismal comparison.
@gilded gate can you please atleast bring back 2-3 of the mobs?
[Progeny][20:54:05] Bager killed at level 672 by an abysmor.
Hes an EK. No risk? for that shit exp? Its a fucking trash place. Increase the damn exp there or deleted that place from the map.
Just delete it, no point.
😂 please 10kk/h i didnt abuse it enough, @gilded gate Remove slow-time
[Progeny][20:50:57] Lucine killed at level 477 by a venerator. Venerator also needs to be 10kk/h confirmed
This was exhausting to read. Glade devs still have 0 idea how to balance spawn, at least it was more public this time. 🤣
Jumped out from Mazzgaron tp with RP spell on without mana shield and met a venerator.
We Made 5.3kk per h 1 blocker + 3 shooters 500+, we didn't have to wait for spwan as 3 shooter.
Eldrin, you nerfed the spawn too hard. maths;
abysmor 66402 exp, priest 62320 exp, in 1 round = 8x abysmos, 6x priest = 905k exp
780 sec resp time
3600 / 780 = 4,6
4,6 *905 = 4,16kk exp
that is if you totally MAX the spawn
like if you 1 shot the monsters
team of 4, 1 blocker 3 shooters btw
I did notice that experience per hour was lower than intended, but before I make adjustments I have question to players who were hunting there today. Was the spawn timer alright now, or did you still had to wait?
Just make a fast test server grab 4 players and test the things before launching, we know you dont play the game so you are not aware of so many things. You gotta test before launch, everything.
Grab 4 players who all try to buff the spawn to the fullest and don't even report OP spawn, good try. I am going to assume the spawn time is fine then, it was taken from the logs but I just wanted to confirm. The average team size on this spawn is 4.95, so from now on I will also balance it more towards 5-man party size. This means that 4 man parties will be able to reach even more experience, if they have very high level.
You can be behind them, its your test server, hire them for a small amount, a free premium scroll, something. They dont have to report anything to you, you can watch live what theyre doing.
I cannot force them to try their best. Unfortunately it is not possible to trust this kind of data. On the other hand, most people try their best when they actually gain experience, which is why I am going to rely on the data from live servers.
Eldrin and look on bugs here please #1214626183342202891 message.
Cause for nerf it always take a few days. For fix bugs we wait to next patch a lot time. If it bugs ofc because cant be sure
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You just grab average players, not players near the top, plenty of players actually want the game to continue and would not mind sacrificing an hour or more to help improve the game.
Data is easily trusted, the community actually gives a fuck.
With 4 man party size we were doing 3.8kk/h, dropping for 3.6kk sometimes. <- this was not breaking
With 5 man we were breaking hard -3-4minutes. Xp was even lower.
To me the spawn seems empty... idk maybe put 2-3 mobs (but this with 5 man part would break) and increase a little bit the xp wield for each monster. Monster have a huge life pool, for a 4man party it mean that the xp per kill should be increased a bit.
Tbh that spawn should a 5 man party spawn and right tunned to that
The thing is you shouldnt count the ek as one of the shooters tbh it should be 1ek and 4 shooters and u told us if we exp as 4 only we would make 7.5kk and it wasnt true we made maximum 5.2kk with boost, the place is basically trashcan now unless it fixed or remove it
spawn was totally balanced, please 10kk/h again
Morocco is totally trashcan now
the resapwn will be fixed next ss?
He just said: "I am going to assume the spawn time is fine then, it was taken from the logs but i just wanted to confirm." So im guessing he's not changing anything?
Everything you say is the rule. So keep on talkin' envious. You do the shit and then you cry, failure
Buff EKs!
@native flax stop trying to save your OP exping spot.
The respawn is perfect 👍🏼
Waiting for spawn for 2.5 minutes with a team of 4 all 650+
@gilded gate there wont be anymore changes on this spawn?
There will be some adjustments in near future. No ETA for now.
6.2kk with boost exp team of 4 600-700, waiting for 2.5 min per lap, its funny, to nerf the spawn to the point that is useless to hunt there took 2 days, now that you guys make a mistake no "eta" for now.. 
The solution is really simple... no ETA? 2-4 months without any good place for high lvl to hunt? C'mon!
If the wait time is 2.5min and exp is a bit too low just add back 2-3 mobs and it's perfect no?
Just add 2 of the 4 mobs you removed and it’s solved.
i think its to much effort to lower spawntime a little bit, or increase slightly the exp of the monster, or even add 3 monters in total both spawn so it will be a acceptable hunt for hls..
Huh.
It will come in max few days. But no ETA, so I can't tell you if it will be added tomorrow or in 2 days.
We rarely do patches on weekends.
It does not mean that there will be no changes for months.
in total they removed like 5 monsters, there are plenty of ways to fix it, decreasing a little bit spawn time, add 3 more monsters from the 5 tht where removed or even increase a little bit the exp that is a low exp for the health ratio
I don't want anyone to later cry, send screenshots that something was "promised" on Tuesday but over the weekend something happened that made it impossible to patch it that day and had to be moved to Wednesday.
Hello can we have a Nice starting of the week? Is it possible you pls put 3-4 more mobs and inscrease xp a little bit to fix this spawn?
Do we already have the final version of the spawn?
so i guess no tuesday and no wednesday right? 🤣
Eldriin, when patch? 
No ETA seems like, when its too good 1 day to fix, when its too bad 1 month i guess
After the next patch spawn time of creatures will be reduced from 780s to 600s.
Where the increased exp tho
Is it the only change that is going to be made?
Patch when? Seems to be a simple change
They dont do patches on weekends bro
Don’t worry bro this patch will be a crazy one (fixes to the patch that happened last month)
No patch friday
What is a patch?
I wonder the level of incompetence of the company, the day it was to end respaw it was in just 1 minute with (/i 0000). Now to fix the shit that was done 3 weeks ago? They want to rewind the game by making everyone hunt for corruptor, congratulations. But don't give up hope that you'll be competent to fix the huge shit done. If it was to limit the level, just talk.
How much exp u guys wanna get out of this church? Changing spawn timer from 780-600 won't be enough?
nobody even knows wat exp it'll be lol its just taken them a month to change it again
You can calculate it pretty easily.
as proven in the past math doesnt really math on here so only way is to test the spawn wen the change happens
You may not be able to calculate the exact exp/h but at least you can get an estimation. You can expect about 23% more experience per hour.
So in this case about 7.6kk exp/h from 6.2kk exp/h.
And that they should be fakking happy with I think, wtf 10kk/h for a squad of people gonna make ppl lvl 1000 in no time and how is that gonna be for the games future? More lvl stops?
But having respawn downtime sucks anus tbh
imagine complaining about 6 to 8 kk/hr 
Nobody is complaining, at least i dont, but i also dont see a reason to go there now for same exp that im making solo, anytime i want, and my friends who all are SD hunting vocations can get even better results solo
And I think that Eldrin conclusion is: oh so i need to nerf more spawns so they want to go there 
The problem is that it's 3 weeks and nothing yet, how many more weeks will we have to hunt in the 500 lvl basement? Is this a punishment?
It would be more honest for you to say it's a punishment
So this spawn will be 5kk/h without boost? Sounds high?
that's if you'd break it 4man with the new timer coming next patch, which even the 650 team won't be doing according to what they said themselves. They said they were breaking it by 2.5min, not far from breaking it but still about 30sec to go on, of course it can change depending on what/how many mechanics they get in a full round and so on.
So what's the XP/h there now?
4,2kk/h avg, 4,5kk/h peak for 5 ppl party
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in other words, yet again hilariously much on hotkey server 4 man teams? 😄
idk, @vivid jetty would have to go and test
This exp is with event too I suppose
ye so about 4,577kk/h without. guessing thats peak ss too. insane exp specially for a lvl 500
if I'm not wrong its theoretical maximum of 5,4kk, more realistically 5,2kk in 4 man team. Obviously no one has firepower to break it yet.