Joker Fundamentals | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate | Page 1

spice mica Apr 14, 2026, 10:17 PM

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Who are you requesting?
A Joker coach.

What is your time zone?
BRT

What specifically do you need help with?
I'm trying to know his fundamentals, how to use Gun right, use his Up B to catch opponents in the air, Down b to charge Arsene faster (because of people grabing), Arsene movement, combos (bread and butters) and Fair 1.

When are you typically available?
Usually afterschool, which is about 1pm - 2pm BRT (about 11am - 12 am EST), on Saturdays and Sundays i can play all day along.

How long have you been playing the game for?
I've been playing since Brawl and came to Ultimate, playing for 4-5 months and didn't play tournements

Can I VC?
No.

silk ridge Apr 14, 2026, 10:22 PM

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Why you keep deleting and making more posts I was gonna do the steve one but its gone ;/

spice mica Apr 15, 2026, 12:46 AM

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I'm sorry, @silk ridge 😭

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Is because i just have 5 more days until online ends, nd i really wanna a dlc coach

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and*

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Really sorry about it

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And i tought no one would do the Steve one :/

spice mica Apr 15, 2026, 6:23 PM

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@silk ridge If no one replies to this post, can we do the Steve coach?

silk ridge Apr 15, 2026, 6:25 PM

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Sure

spice mica Apr 15, 2026, 6:25 PM

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Ok

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What time i crated this post for you htw?

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btw*

silk ridge Apr 15, 2026, 9:40 PM

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6:17 yesterday

spice mica Apr 15, 2026, 9:52 PM

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Yeah, just because we can do the steve coach if it passes 24 hours

spice mica Apr 15, 2026, 10:19 PM

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@silk ridge the 24 hours just passed, i redo a post or we can just do it in here?

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Well, i think we just do it here, because you already answered this post

silk ridge Apr 15, 2026, 11:08 PM

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We can just do it here

spice mica Apr 15, 2026, 11:08 PM

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ok

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 4:35 PM

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Dell, are you good to do the coach today?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 4:38 PM

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yea

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at 2;30 ping me

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 6:38 PM

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Yo

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 6:46 PM

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Yo, i'm here @silk ridge

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Sorry for being late

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But i'm here

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Dell?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 7:20 PM

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I’m here😭

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I was distracted

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@spice mica

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You good?

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 7:26 PM

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Yup

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Still here

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@silk ridge

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Why we are always be offline when the other is online 😭

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 7:30 PM

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Bry

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Bet

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You want me or you to make a ring

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 7:33 PM

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You can make the arena

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I'm gonna wait for the code

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 7:35 PM

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Alr

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5DFYQ 58

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@spice mica

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 7:42 PM

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I'm there

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It's me

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 7:46 PM

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Hmm

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 7:46 PM

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How did you do that up air combo?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 7:46 PM

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Nils?

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 7:47 PM

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Oh, you did nils?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 7:47 PM

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You have to up air them block place

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 7:50 PM

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No, i didn't f smash that, i turned around and grabbed

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Why does this happen!?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 7:51 PM

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Misinputs

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I make sure to know what I do before hand

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 7:51 PM

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Its not a misinput, i really pressed grab

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Let me se

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How i know it will be a sword or a pickaxe!?

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I don't know this aerials man 😭

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 7:55 PM

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If you actually input forward air instead of just pressing a and jump at the same time

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 7:58 PM

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Bruh

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 7:58 PM

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Unfort

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:02 PM

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Oh, can you teach me something i always see?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:02 PM

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?

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:02 PM

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The TNT ledgetrap

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:02 PM

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TNT down smash?

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:02 PM

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No

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:03 PM

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Bro that’s Better then doing stupid tnt on plat then up titling it😭

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:03 PM

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Wdym?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:03 PM

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You sit on your tnt down smash it and time your spot dodge to not get hit

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:03 PM

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Wait, why?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:04 PM

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It’s better

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Sit on your tnt

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Like stand on it

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🥀

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:05 PM

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Steve is still working on it, idk man 😭

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But seruously, hy is better then up tilting?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:05 PM

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Yes

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:09 PM

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Why!?

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Also why does that happen?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:13 PM

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?

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:16 PM

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Dell, do you teach something in between battles?

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Idm what i'm learning from this :/

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idk*

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:17 PM

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spice mica Dell, do you teach something in between battles?

I explain what I see how you can actually like do with your style now and what you can do to improve it cause

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What you mostly do is fish for grabs you continue to just do pivot grab every 5 seconds I will back up and punish for it

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😭

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If you want to know what your doing your kinda just fishing for grabs 24/7 instead of mining and getting your gold and diamonds

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In the ditto yeah you would mine for stuff first then go but me playing random you go straight in

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Not bad but atleast don’t try fighting me until you get like iron or gold

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:19 PM

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Oh

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:19 PM

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Yea

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With Rob you have to do full hop jump fair

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See bro i sat and did nair while you were trying to grab me why are you not shielding or backing up

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And you kept doing it

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:24 PM

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Is nair, that shii is plus on shield.

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:24 PM

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spice mica Is nair, that shii is plus on shield.

No

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:24 PM

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But it looks like it

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:24 PM

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Then retreat

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Or parry or counter it

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Nair is not scary

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:25 PM

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Nair is not scary? Wdym? That does criminal damage

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:25 PM

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Okay right your Steve

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You can shut me down with blocks anvil combos etc

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But your not doing that

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Your not taking advantage of the situation

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Which you should be doing

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Take away my gyro and your good

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:27 PM

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Idk how to even use blocks man, the only thing i know is the 3 block wall, that's it 😭

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:27 PM

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That’s what Steve’s use the 3 wall the 2 wall with a hut on top

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:27 PM

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That Steve ditto block wall in your recovery was pure luck btw, i didn't think it would work

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:28 PM

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Steve can block recovery’s

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Watch Steve vs falco or fox it’s bad

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Try to be on the defensive while trying to get your materials

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:29 PM

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Fox is the baddest mu imo, just side tilt until you spike him

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:29 PM

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Yes you can walk with him

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So can you with Wolf and Falco

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You can do that with Diddy and some others

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:30 PM

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eBeing for real, i really can't think of what to do 😭 is just steve after all

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:31 PM

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Well they can sdi out of it

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:31 PM

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Like i can't do nothing when the opponent is aproching my 3 block wall from above

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:31 PM

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You can up tilt or up air

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You can spam up air by holding a

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When you do the up air first

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:32 PM

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Before starting

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What happens if the end lag is the same as the opponent starting move?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:33 PM

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Well it depends if you got diamonds or not

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:33 PM

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Like Rob nair is -4/-3, nd my jab starts on frame 4 and gold frame 3

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:33 PM

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Then yours would go dude

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I see your trying to like hit nair into fair

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Just do up tilts or upairs

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:37 PM

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nair into fair? That's just fair but sword 😭

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:38 PM

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Yea

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Nair

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😭😭😭

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Neutral air

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Your doing fair when you actually do
The input

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Is he seeing like the game plan now?

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Cause like before you were clueless

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Your going for less grabs your actually utilizing your kit

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:47 PM

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Andwhat i'm now?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:47 PM

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Your okay no combos

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Just like edge guarding

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Not bad but you want to learn nils cause there want you need to get your quick and easy kills

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:48 PM

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Ok

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Just, let me remap my buttons

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:48 PM

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?

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You can’t play Steve regularly

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:48 PM

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The buttons oj smash

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:48 PM

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silk ridge You can’t play Steve regularly

Like every day?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:49 PM

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Nvm

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:49 PM

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spice mica Like every day?

Didn’t even it like that I meant like regular controls

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 8:49 PM

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No

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I think my controls don't work for steve

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but is really quick

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Also i'm doing ashort brake

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break*

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 8:55 PM

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Okay

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Okay what did you try to fight me with?

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I want you getting more of your better materials

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Also turn on random

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Just straight up random

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I’ll go falco your job edgeguard me kill me fast don’t get killed early also try to play defensive behind your walls

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:03 PM

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Can you please go for the ditto again? I really don't know what to do with this characters 😭

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:03 PM

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Alr

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Holy

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:10 PM

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How do i do combos, that's i need to learn too

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:10 PM

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How did you misinput up b

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Okay first you can start learning your nil placements

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:10 PM

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My mind is still in the up air

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:10 PM

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Nil 1 nil 2 nil 3 nil 4

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:11 PM

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silk ridge Okay first you can start learning your nil placements

Ok, so can we NOT battle in this round for me to learn?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:11 PM

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Sure

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:12 PM

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Nil 1 is easy

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:12 PM

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Do it

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Do nil up air

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Nah Do nil up air

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Now do nil 3

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Not build 3 instantly go into nil 3

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Idj nil

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So go to 3

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:14 PM

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Is that nil 3?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:14 PM

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Yes

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:15 PM

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What now?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:15 PM

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Do nil 1 into nil 3

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:16 PM

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Did i do it?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:16 PM

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Yes

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Now nil 4

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Now do nil 1 into 4

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So when you do your up tilts you do two or three with wood and gold then go into your nils with up airs

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Diamond requires 1 or two up tilts but hard to hit Nils sometimes

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:19 PM

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How do i do nil 1 to 4.

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Looks hqrd

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hard*

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:19 PM

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You do nil 1 into idj nil

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:20 PM

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How i do an idj man 😭 i can't press jump twice super fast

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:21 PM

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You can have a jump for shoulder

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:21 PM

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Well; that' how i am misinputing too

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yes i have

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2 actually

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to short hop

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:22 PM

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Well you do just double press that

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Why do you have toe shoulder jumps to short hop?

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All your doing is tapping jump

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:23 PM

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Wait how you don't land crouching?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:24 PM

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On the block

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?

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Your just in general

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:24 PM

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general

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is just not doing the move while landing?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:25 PM

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I’m just doing the move

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:27 PM

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I mean when i jump, steve just do a crouch when landing

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:27 PM

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That’s probably just you

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You kinda wanna move around when you do land tho

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I see what you say but yeah your just sitting in place

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For nils you have to practice them in training mode

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And combos cause you have to get used to doing them in there with cpu shuffling on or if you have the mod

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Then you can set di your cpu

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:31 PM

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Oh, why this grab for?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:32 PM

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It can go under the ledge

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:33 PM

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Why is tnt not exploding for you?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:33 PM

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I can not let it lol

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:33 PM

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after down smash

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probably staled lol

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I still don't get why up tilt in the tnt is bad

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brb

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:35 PM

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Alr

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I’ll be off in like 10

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:37 PM

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ok

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also let me put small battlefield

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About recovery too

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:41 PM

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?

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:41 PM

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I wasn't prepared man 😭

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:42 PM

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silk ridge ?

because pf the up tilt tnt

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Like can't it brake shields?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:42 PM

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Try it out if you can

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:45 PM

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spice mica Like can't it brake shields?

No not really

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:45 PM

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I think i can't do it in the Steve ditto

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Oh, also how i recover right?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:45 PM

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spice mica I think i can't do it in the Steve ditto

You can’t

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:45 PM

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spice mica Oh, also how i recover right?

Wdym

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O the good recovery

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:45 PM

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I saw some people using tnt, minecart, and more

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:46 PM

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You need to up b when you up b fling your movement stick up then down to neutral

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Then release in
The 3 frames

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Holy🥀

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You gotta practice these things in training dude

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:47 PM

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Holy K Rool ledge grab 😭

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:47 PM

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Or on the stage

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:50 PM

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Also

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How do i NOT hit the ledge below?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:50 PM

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Hold up or spamming a

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Your probably just flying straight into the ledge

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:51 PM

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See?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:51 PM

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Your just hitting it

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:51 PM

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I still try to do the good recover and that happens

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:52 PM

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Your doing the recover like right next making you hit to the ledge

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I can do one Steve ditto and then I’ll spin my smash wheel for a character

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 9:53 PM

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ok

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 9:53 PM

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Try to be more under

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Waited for the bottom one to come undone to stick you in for the backside but Alr

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Alr the smash wheel is deciding your fate

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:02 PM

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Was I cooking?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:02 PM

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Trying to find the middle hand emoji

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🫳

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You play like you did with wolf it’s okay

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:03 PM

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I really don't know why one of the C. Falcom side b didn't work 😭😭

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:03 PM

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Who knows

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:04 PM

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silk ridge You play like you did with wolf it’s okay

i never requested a wolf coach :/

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:04 PM

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You faced me in brys arena I see your mutual friends and you have me added :/

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:04 PM

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Oh

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Yeah that's right

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:04 PM

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I kinda fried you when I was Luigi and dk

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And that other guy

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Hacker

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Or sum

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:05 PM

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But i won sometimes

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:05 PM

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You won once

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And we were on spirits

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💔

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:05 PM

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Yeah i remember that

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And that ledge that it didn't even work 😭😭😭

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:06 PM

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O it did

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You just didn’t know where to go

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:07 PM

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Well, what now?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:07 PM

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Well first you go into training mode pick any character and learn combos learn your nils practice your nils I don’t main Steve bro I just know know lol

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Get better at your ledge trapping and how to approach

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When I’m actually in a real match I’m not spamming side b 24/7 but in like coaching or sum I’ll let it fly

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Get out of the happen of trying to grab them spot dodge or roll people can catch you off that

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:09 PM

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silk ridge Get better at your ledge trapping and how to approach

My ledge trap is just 5.99 Pk Fire for now, does it work most of the time?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:09 PM

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Kinda

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Most character can get past it

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And then most will just keep you off stage to do it to you

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:10 PM

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Ok

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I just need to learn nils with the blocks?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:11 PM

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Yes

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:13 PM

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No ledge trapping with it?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:13 PM

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Search up acola

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Or syrup rn and have watch them face a fox

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:14 PM

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spice mica No ledge trapping with it?

You can ledge trap with blocks

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Your up b hit my block and I down smashed it

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:25 PM

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Dell, i have one more question

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https://youtube.com/shorts/eIPUBc_v1LM?si=UL8GsxiN-3xE_fLn

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How he did that with the tnt in the 1st clip?

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2nd

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I meamt 2nd clip

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:26 PM

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He did Minecraft into the tnt then di’d

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:27 PM

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Is that super hard to do it?

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:27 PM

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Your going for like the TikTok clips

silk ridge Apr 16, 2026, 10:27 PM

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spice mica Is that super hard to do it?

Prob not

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I don’t play Steve dude🥀

spice mica Apr 16, 2026, 10:27 PM

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silk ridge Your going for like the TikTok clips

Nah, i will just do it when i'm good with him

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