Requesting a coach for lucas | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate | Page 1

pliant crane Feb 23, 2026, 11:36 PM

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I am requesting a lucas coach.

I struggle in offense, execution and combos. Usually i will be throwing out pk fire and zairs in neutral, but i struggle to follow up on them. I'd eventually land a stray hit that i know can be followed up on, but i find myself dropping my combos. i also want to learn djcz but execution for me sucks

i also (kind of) struggle in a few other areas that idk how to put into words.

I am usually available around 4-7:00 CST, with exceptions such as weekends where i am free from around 8:00 A.M. to 8:30 P.M.

I have been playing ultimate since release, and was interested in lucas. I have little to no tourney experience.

I can vc

charred moat Feb 23, 2026, 11:39 PM

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pliant crane I am requesting a lucas coach. I struggle in offense, execution and combos. Us...

Yeah I do the same thing with rob. I'm all like 'finally, I can get the ZTD super consistently!' then I go into qp and get obliterated because I do not have the ZTD consistent against actual players rather than training mode dummies. Your best bet is probably deity

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Best lucas coach in the server

pliant crane Feb 23, 2026, 11:40 PM

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ok ty

charred moat Feb 23, 2026, 11:42 PM

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pliant crane ok ty

Yep! Want me to ping them for you?

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Or ig you can ping them too 😭

pliant crane Feb 23, 2026, 11:43 PM

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im new to discord as a whole so pls do lol

charred moat Feb 23, 2026, 11:44 PM

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@velvet field I summon thee

velvet field Feb 23, 2026, 11:49 PM

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@pliant crane availability tn

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Because it's your only opportunity with my schedule

pliant crane Feb 23, 2026, 11:49 PM

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ok

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what time

velvet field Feb 23, 2026, 11:51 PM

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Pick one

pliant crane Feb 23, 2026, 11:52 PM

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ima eat dinner then i can

velvet field Feb 23, 2026, 11:52 PM

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Okay

pliant crane Feb 23, 2026, 11:53 PM

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ill ping you when i finish

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:21 AM

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@velvet field im done eating and ready now

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:23 AM

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1SSBM
50

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:23 AM

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?

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idk what any of that means lol

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:24 AM

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Oh boy

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Go to online

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Select arenas

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Select id

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Put in the id

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The numbers after that is the password

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Let's just see what I'm working with

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:25 AM

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ok

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vc or nah

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:25 AM

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Nah

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:26 AM

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ok then

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whenever youre ready

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:26 AM

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Start whenever

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What is your goal with Smash

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:30 AM

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probably compete in local tournaments, really striving to be best in my area

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i have a long ways to go lol

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:30 AM

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So you want to get into the competitive mindset

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:30 AM

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yes

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:31 AM

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We're gonna start small

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But the goal is to focus on your opponent

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Not yourself

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We'll start with attacking

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When you attack, you want moves that go in the direction your opponent is or is coming from

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This means PK Fire

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Fair

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Zair

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Do not use nair to attack

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When you're on the offensive

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On the defensive it's more acceptable but when you're trying to hit, you need to be controlling the space betwen us

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Your nair is around your body, so it's not doing that

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:32 AM

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i see

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:33 AM

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More fairs especially

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:33 AM

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i used to play mario so i got used to not doing fairs often

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:33 AM

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Switching chars a lot will do that

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If you keep doing muscle memory will never form and you have spend all of your time thinking about your own moveset

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Which means you're not focusing on your opponent

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The end goal is always the other person

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When I was playing I was watching you the entire time

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Because ik how my character moves

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And ik how his moves work

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:34 AM

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i see so focus more on the enemy and less on myself

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:34 AM

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I don't have to think about it at all

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Yes

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:36 AM

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i thought my neutral wasn't very good, anything to say abt it? anything helps rlly

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:36 AM

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Let's not focus on that right now

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:36 AM

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ok

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:36 AM

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When you're ready

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:40 AM

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that felt like it went a little better to me

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:40 AM

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Your recoveries need work

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:40 AM

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ik lol

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:40 AM

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And you just need more practice with movement

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:40 AM

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i never know where to start on movement

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i know rars and b reverses and stuff but those dont rlly help

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:41 AM

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I'm not talking about that

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I'm talking about just moving period

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:41 AM

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oh

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:41 AM

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Spacing your moves, avoiding hitboxes, the very basics

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You gotta start identifying where the threat vectors are

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Looking at where your opponent is and thinking about what can they attack you with from there

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:42 AM

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ah

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i understand

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:44 AM

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Go ahead

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:46 AM

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that was horrible xd

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:46 AM

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You know you can do a 2nd up b if you bounch off the wall

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:47 AM

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i didnt know that

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:47 AM

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If you press up b after bouncing within half a second

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You get a 2nd up b

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:47 AM

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i see

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:51 AM

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Why don't you really shield at all

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:51 AM

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idk

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:52 AM

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You're not really prepared at all when I approach with an attack and you let yourself get hit everytime

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:53 AM

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i guess casual play with friends never rlly made me think abt it

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:53 AM

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Even then shielding is important

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If you're in a position where you're not able to get out the way

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You need your shield

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:53 AM

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ok

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:57 AM

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What's a difference you noticed with how I play Lucas compared to you

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:58 AM

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a lot more fairs and zairs in neutral

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and just in general

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:58 AM

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Think about that a little bit more

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The fairs specifically

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What was different about mine from yours

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 12:59 AM

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you spaced them a lot better

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 12:59 AM

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Sorta the answer I'm looking for

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There's a subtle difference

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I'm curious if you noticed it

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:00 AM

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idk is it autocancelling them for more fairs afterward

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:01 AM

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You're on the right track

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They're not autocanceling but I can act faster than you

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I wait until I'm falling before I fair

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You do them as you're rising

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:01 AM

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yes i see

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:01 AM

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The difference is you have to wait for the fair animation to end before you can do something else

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But because I land, the animation switches to his landing animation and that's way faster

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Just something to think about

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:02 AM

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i get it

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fimding it a bit difficult to time the fairs like that

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:06 AM

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Because you've never done it

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So you don't know the timing

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It's something you have to learn

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But as soon as Lucas reaches the top of his short hop, that's when you do it

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On the topic of animations

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Do you notice when you get hit the most

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In neutral

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:07 AM

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yes

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:07 AM

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When is it

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:07 AM

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usually whiffing smth or a trigger happy nair on shield

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:08 AM

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Not exactly

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It's when you're dashing back and forth

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We have something called the initial dash

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it's when a char first starts running

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During that animation, you cannot shield

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So because you keep doing that, it tells me I am free to just hit you for it

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:08 AM

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oh

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:09 AM

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Something else I was hoping you noticed was how I just sit still and wait for you to do something

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Until you do or I decide to hit you for the dashing thing

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:09 AM

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yeah im kind of impatient

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:09 AM

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Because when I do that I'm ready for whatever it is you're gonna do

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If you pk fire I can shield it on reaction for example

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You want to move sure

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But you want to move with a purpose

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When I decide to move I usually walk

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And it's to make small adjustments in my distance from you

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This is more elaborate so don't worry

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Point is

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Try not to dash back and forth so much

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Move with a purpose

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:11 AM

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i see

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:14 AM

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Burst range

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What is it

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:15 AM

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your moves that come out the fastest that you can throw out at random or oos

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or are those just burst options

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:16 AM

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No

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To both

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Burst range is the range a character is in where it is impossible to react to what they're going to do

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Moves in this range are burst options

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I say this because you were letting me get way too close to you

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Where if I did something you weren't going to be able to do anything about it on reaction

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You have to act preemptively or you have to get defensive

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It's not an ideal position to be in especially when you're cornered

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You wanna figure out

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How close does my opponent have to get to me before that feels like a threat

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:18 AM

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i see

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so for example against you (playing lucas) is djcz range i assume

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:19 AM

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Slightly larger than that

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You'll get a feel for it with experience

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This'll be my last one

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:19 AM

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ok then

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:23 AM

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Final thing of note

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You want center stage

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Don't corner yourself like that

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You have to fight me for center

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:23 AM

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ok

velvet field Feb 24, 2026, 1:23 AM

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Because moving backwards is so important

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And the closer you are to center, the further away from the blastzones

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It's just a good position to hold

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But that'll be all for me for now

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If you have questions feel free to ask

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Work on moving

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Work on falling fairs

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Work on short hops

pliant crane Feb 24, 2026, 1:24 AM

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ill be sure to practice those

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thanks for the session

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