#Looking for detailed feedback from experienced players no generic advice please

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carmine delta
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Time zone
EST

Coach requesting
Any coach

Availability
Fridays - Sundays anytime

Looking for a coach who can give me notes on our matches explaining what I did/do wrong and what I could’ve done or do instead. Also preferably someone that can 3 - 2 stock me reading me like a book.

twilit swift
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You… already made this

carmine delta
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I know I did

twilit swift
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And I don’t think you asked when we gave you like two ppl

carmine delta
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I'm just being more specific on what I'm looking for on this post

twilit swift
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Ok

full lion
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I can run an assessment if you like, and then point you to the most suitable coach. What character do you main?

carmine delta
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Ike

full lion
# carmine delta Ike

Are you available now? As it is an assessment, there's no guarantees I'll 3 stock you, but based on how well you do I'll refer you to the appropriate coach I know will most likely 2/3 stock you.

carmine delta
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I'm not but I should be able to play around 6 or 7pm today

full lion
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What timezone are you, as I may not be available at that time

carmine delta
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est

full lion
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You don't need to specify a region (you can delete that if you want, no need to DOX yourself)

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I probably won't be available at that time. I can think of at least 4 coaches (Dell, Jellyfish, iKO, Deity) who could 2/3 stock you but I know their time is precious.
@sleek prism You said you were okay with being pinged so I'm nudging you first rather than mass pinging. If you can't do it, feel free to ping one of the others.

sleek prism
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I was also lurking LOL

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Yeah I can do it

soft heart
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same

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😂

full lion
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Thank you Dell, Jellyfish

carmine delta
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Cool

sleek prism
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Heads or tails

soft heart
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tails

full lion
sleek prism
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you got it dell

full lion
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Oh okay, @soft heart I'm told they have issues with projectile evasion

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So you might want to throw in some projectile characters too

soft heart
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King k megaman plant ken min min ik she not projectiles but you gotta get past her arms pac man etc

full lion
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I was going to use Duck Hunt if they beat my Ganon

carmine delta
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@soft heart are you able to play rn?

soft heart
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Yea

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@carmine delta im ava

carmine delta
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Ok

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8S95W/0

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@soft heart

soft heart
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bet

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Why you close ring

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😭

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3NRG5 P11

carmine delta
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I was changing my settings sorry

soft heart
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your good

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Alr good first

soft heart
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Ill start to like be constant and take advantage still warming up my kazuya

carmine delta
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Ok

soft heart
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The times where i just sit there and do nun im just watching you jump around

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Or i just mess up combos to chase you

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I can't even play fr cause i got no plats but its alr gotta change my playstyle ig

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I will give you notes after this is all done

carmine delta
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Alright thanks

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We can switch to platforms after this match

soft heart
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Thats my rool

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Ill switch to some others

carmine delta
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Ok

soft heart
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Also i saw you don't mash why is that?

carmine delta
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You mean when I'm getting grabbed?

soft heart
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yes and in bury

carmine delta
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I do

soft heart
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Not fast enough

carmine delta
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I'm playing on a switch lite so that maybe why idk

soft heart
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prob

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last 3 il play serious

carmine delta
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Ok

soft heart
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I wanted to catch you with a random up smash i fish for stuff

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Ill play like one more i only sweat offline as online im chill

carmine delta
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Ok

soft heart
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Ill give you the dell exp

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Dang maybe im just washed

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nvm i just had to start reading

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alr based off what i seen

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You don't do heavily well against projectiles which i mean they already said you didn't but you try to block which is good you can always jump over or even parry them as your just in a zone between you and them Which with a character like ike you have a giant sword so once you can get in your can do alot of damage when i played rool on no plats you were doing okay but still getting hit by alot as there was no where to hide for me but even then with the way i can move around your sword there was not much you could do and plus i can gimp your up b and side b with belly or a projectile on platforms it was even worse as i was able to then take my projectiles and be able to hit combos off them especially my crown. 2nd You don't mash alot which seems to be something i spotted when i would grab or bury you you would sit there and let me do something instead of fighting to get out of it as most people mash to avoid dying to such attacks . Coming from somebody who used to main and play ike alot i know what weaknesses he has so its really dependable on the mu but also the player seeing what they do to get in i suggest you go and practice around most characters projectiles. 3rd when your on ledge ill do one but ill basically just play how i usually do

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Ill go somebody i didn't use and see what you do

carmine delta
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Ok

soft heart
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So you do good against chars with no projectiles

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Or i just gotta play fr

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So chars you do bad against are projectile chars and certain ones who just exploit your recovery

carmine delta
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Yeah I definitely noticed that especially if it's a character like Link

soft heart
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Also you don't try to get out the air

carmine delta
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What do you mean by that?

soft heart
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Like when did handslap upsmash you just slow falled not even fast fall or to get out the way

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And you don't tech at all

carmine delta
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I try to tech when you throw me against the stage with dk

soft heart
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You got to hit the tech you don't die early

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Also if you just nair me i can hold shield and grab you instantly

carmine delta
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I have to go after this match

soft heart
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Okay

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I like that you grabbed my shield which i try to hold it alot just for i can see what your gonna do most ikes just do like forward tilt backaway and dash back

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Somethings i didn't see you do want like use your counter in points where i could be easily exploited

carmine delta
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I see is their any other bad habits that I could work on?

soft heart
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Your good for spacing but in a real match it would probably get you read cause you do nair back up nair then forward tilt If somebody just does like a towahawk or just does nothing they would probably wait for you

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This is me at a tourney reading a Luigi as i don’t try to fish for sum I just get in

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I normally ease it a bit when I play against people I coach as I normally just get hate or just get called a horrible person lol

carmine delta
soft heart
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So I don’t go full extreme but in this I just go in and make sure he had no options to pick from

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👍 when I played dk and you jumped from the ledge then jumped again to go for a fair I waited and sat there and backaired you

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Sending you back off stage

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Also dk is one of thoses characters who can just punch you out your armor

carmine delta
soft heart
soft heart
soft heart
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Also when your above me i kinda waited to see what you would do after me doing Ding dong and you did a downnair where i just grabbed you again and did another ding dong

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When your playing against most chars focus on what they have that you can heavily exploit

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Chars with counters can gimp your recovery most of them so try to mix up if you see them counter then just to counter attack that as

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Your ike so if i played dk you can counter my recovery killing me at higher percent

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Same with many chars

carmine delta
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I try to reverse my up b and air dodge to ledge when people try to gimp my recovery especially against other swordies

soft heart
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Yes but that leads them to be behind you for them doing a foward smash etc and alot of swordies have the 2 frame where they point you for your airdodge

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As what i did with dk i just slapped you away mostly for your recovery

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Or your airdodges

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Also I do like you using fair to knock people away from stage thats good cause the hitbox is massive

carmine delta
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Ike has no other options to avoid gimps

soft heart
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Thats why you see who your facing and think what they could do you i never seen you like try to roll you would just jump or you probably did roll but i never saw it

carmine delta
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I did roll from the ledge a few times

soft heart
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O okay i probably just don't remember

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Also When you would nair i would backup and go for a pilot grab as it extends dk range with is far already but grabbing long range is pretty stupid especially with one who can walk off with you

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Try to know how far you need to be where you don't get punished but make sure you play well as people will just straight up not care and rush in

carmine delta
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True

soft heart
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Thats mostly what i got cause im finna go play dubs

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Any questions?

carmine delta
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No that's all thanks!

soft heart
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Np im ava tmr after 10:52 as thats when i get out of school so yeah

carmine delta
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Ok

twin kernel
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I could do the coaching too

soft heart
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Yeah train with iko they are better

twin kernel
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How do you know that🗿

soft heart
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Iko do you try online cause I don’t i be going fo clips

twin kernel
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Did we ever play

soft heart
twin kernel
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I try very rarely like when I’m playing vs someone as good as me/better and want to improve from this

soft heart
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Also I only being playing comp for 6 months

twin kernel
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But against people who are worse not really

twin kernel
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Who knows

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🔥

soft heart
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Hopefully

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I gotta play you lol just to get better

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😼

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Hate getting farmed by sassy😭

twin kernel
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My random is nasty trust

soft heart
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😁

soft heart
carmine delta
twin kernel
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What timezone are you in?

carmine delta
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Est

twin kernel
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Okok

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6pm should work

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We can play rn too idm even if it’s only 30 minutes

carmine delta
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Ok I'll make the arena

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89Q82/0

twin kernel
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When you hit something with ike side b you have a few frames to act

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You could’ve air dodged to stage and live

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That first and second stock you couldnt side b to ledge

twin kernel
carmine delta
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Ok

twin kernel
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Make sure you fast fall when you do nair to get a follow up

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Down tilt at ledge

carmine delta
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I gtg

twin kernel
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Alright ggs