Sonic Coaching

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One thing

First

When you run away

You literally should be running away

Not jumping away

[remote agate]

i dont like running

i was trying to backair

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You don’t understand

Sonic isn’t quick in the air

Hes quick in the ground

[remote agate]

i know that

..

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Whenever i put u in disadvantage you always jump away

Like you double jump away to a platform

Making it easy for me to catch up and get in ur zone

[remote agate]

gng ion even kno what that is

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I’ll show you

I’ll stay still when u do it

[remote agate]

lets play

nah

just play

think im done for tonight

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fair

[remote agate]

everything else i do will be movement if i stay on

im not gon keep playing like this

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understandable

Get some sleep

Tomorrow practice ur combos

[remote agate]

nah im working on movement bro

i feel stuck

everywhere

im not working on combos it will come after id rather be able to move than anything

if i gotta timeout someone at least i got movement to do so

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You move the way you move bc your not confident on what you’ll do next

[remote agate]

like its annoying im dead stuck in cemet

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if you have combos in your arsenal you’ll be able to have that confidence to move

Bc you’ll know what you’ll look for

Movement is something you do need to improve on but that comes through experience

What comes through practice is combos

And you need to practice them

Trust me

I’ve made the mistakes your making

[remote agate]

Spindash fair

spindash upair

spindash backair

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Not just spindash

[remote agate]

all there is

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No there isn’t

[remote agate]

what other combo does sonic have

just turns into a ball and runs away the entire match

ion wanna play like that

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he literally has other combos

Like nair to bair uair bair

[remote agate]

i wanna be a aggressor bro. I picked sonic cause hes the fastest

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That’s reasonable but your just starting out man

[remote agate]

and i can be anywhere at anytime

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You wanna be aggressive but how u gonna be aggressive if you have no combo game

[remote agate]

but i cant do that if i feel stuck and my movement isn’t there

[remote agate]

how imma be aggressive with no movement?

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I told you it comes through experience

And confidence

[remote agate]

just fast fall

jump*

jump fast fall

jump fast fall

like i cant even do that

and its basic

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Yk

Sonic combos teaches you that stuff

Jump fast fall uair leads to bair nair to uair

Which deals ab 40%

you get alot of hits on me

Believe it or not

But bc of ur lack of combo game you fail to do the damage

Leaving me with barely to begin with

Its why i rush you

Bc ik you ain’t gonna do much

Thats why you need to learn to combo

[remote agate]

https://tenor.com/view/radio-sonic-ratio-failed-sonic-colors-gif-26017116

send combos

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take the advice

[remote agate]

ik i will

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Alr

Gimmie a sec

[remote agate]

I better be

moving later

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https://youtu.be/sLWTJvFXe3Q

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Be patient

[remote agate]

bro

ive watched this

so many times

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Did you practice everything tho?

[remote agate]

no

cause i prioritize movement

i’ll focus on combos whenever i wakeup

goodnight bro

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Gn

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Ama leave some stuff here for when you wake up

Something to take into account

This is what you should be doing to my ganon

you gotta be right above me, sharking my shield

And then if you know ama jump, jump up and catch it

And continue the combo

Pay attention to how the DK dodges and sonix responds

He falls out of the platform and uairs up

Continuing the string

When hes high enough he finishes off with a bair at 0:06

And notice the distance sonic is at

When he spindashes he retreats back to center stage

But he does it in a quick manner before the DK

DK tries to gain back stage control with nair

Sonix stays out of his burst range and uses a full charged spincharge to punish it

All that did 106% damage btw

Very little movement

He closes out the stock with a fair

Out stage fair

A quick one too

The best thing the DK could’ve done in that situation was to to back off sonix

Especially off stage

Shouldn’t have DI’ed to stage when sonix was above him waiting to do so

Which is typically what i do to you

It go him killed

This is another combo

50% percent off that

AND puts him offstage

sets him up for a potential edge guard

Which potentially can kill early

Another combo, this time in neutral

What he does here is homing attack to uair

This one is a bit tricky as your opponent can land behind you or besides you

So react accordingly

This video pay attention to the spacing

Sonix is far enough to punish wolf while wolf is to far to punish sonic

Even with lazer

also note here how the wolf jumps alot

Sonix takes note of this

And punishes him BRUTALLY

Little movement was done

All combos and reads

Sonix doesnt run away but he doesn’t approach either

Thats the trick

The thing with characters like ganon is that he is SUPER easy to combo

79% true combo

With heavies

Rest of the cast varies

And then when he was off ledge notice how sonix did a back air

He did that to cover his DI to stage

Like how i do with you

it traded but for the most part it put DK offstage

Setting sonix up with a easy spike

Kill confirm

One of his best

You have to do spindash and turn around homing attack

And then hit the bair

Its sometimes a true combo and sometimes not

Its Weird bc ur opponent can end up in different positions

But overall really good

This isn’t a combo but more situational

Sonix gets wolf on a plat using spindash fair

14% combo

Wolf is above sonix

Sonix waits for the wolf to normal get up and punishes accordingly and adding 43%

Stringing together 2 combos

He also starts spindashing here at the perfect range, pressuring wolf’s landing

If he let it rip he would’ve caught the wold lackin and get extra damage + potential offstage ledge guard

That is how you also use spindash

To pressure landings like that

At a safe distance

Hope all of this helps when you wake up tomorrow but that be it for now

Lmk if you have any questions

Oh one more thing

https://youtu.be/WomJdf346po

This is RAR

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Its what sonix did here at 0:06

Try it

try it all

Lmk how it goes

[remote agate]

mhm got it

Agenda For Today

Learn RAR
Learn Combos
Be more threatening

[remote agate]

I have a hard time

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@remote agate has earned the Novice role!

[remote agate]

actually landing

the hit i need to use

im losing cause i cant spin dash

@drifting anchor

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Wdym?

[remote agate]

Can i do neutral

but only spindash

[remote agate]

cause im not using spindash

At all

in matches

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Yeah thats the idea

To practice your spindash

And combos

[remote agate]

ok

when can we start

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Not now man

I just woke up

[remote agate]

i was asking when

😭

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Just keep vod review

Watch sonix clips of him taking advantage and pay attention to his spacing, spindashing, and how he continues getting the lead

[remote agate]

okay

[light lava]

hey uh maybe coach me for a bot

bit?

what time?

[drifting anchor]

Later today definitely

I’ll probably train vux for like 2 hours

[light lava]

alr

lmk

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Will do

[light lava]

:thumbsup:

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Bonk do me a favor

[light lava]

yea?

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Star this message above

[light lava]

how

oh nvm

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Ye you got it

Heheh

[light lava]

btw im learning to main sonoc

my real main is

lucario

but i wanna pocket sonic

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Funny

I main sonic

But i pocket lucario

[light lava]

NO WAY

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Yeah

Small world

[light lava]

omggggg

thats so crazy

[remote agate]

ayo

hi @light lava

https://youtu.be/zjyTsPVpgoo

at 8min and 30 sec
8:30

Sonido started off well

but it ended with his stock being taken

What made him lose his stock? @drifting anchor

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Sonido was getting heavily ledge trapped

The samus made him constantly get hit back off stage

Until the samus secured the kill with side b

Which sonido did not shield

He also was conditioned to let go of shield too

Since while he near ledge he got grabbed

So here when he died he thought he probably would’ve got grabbed again

[remote agate]

I can condition someone with spindash righ

By doing spinshot

the reverse spindash thingy

and just canceling it

or thats just mixing up

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You can condition someone into your spindashes by making them stay grounded and out of shield

So if someone is jumping alot you have to make them stop

Thats where uair combos in platforms come in

And if they start shielding thats when the grab combos come in

If they start running around without shielding or jumping you can spincharge them unexpectedly

You should also practice your spincharging speed

When you use spincharge the charge should be extremely quick along with a fast release

That way the opponent can’t react quick enough

[remote agate]

i need better reaction time

in general

cause i see what i could’ve done

after it happens

oh shi i just won when i had a 2 Stock disadvantage

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https://youtu.be/FYRLMy72O1c

Watch this vid

https://youtu.be/PAHTQ9T5ebY

This too

[remote agate]

ok

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Well played

Caught him in the air

[remote agate]

ye

i was going to say

with the reaction thing

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https://youtu.be/u8ltH1CwCcM

[remote agate]

and i was going to add it to this

whenever he said you see a situation multiple times you just start to know what to do

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And that comes through experience

[remote agate]

ive seen this many times and i never up aired out of it

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Yes

[remote agate]

and i did it

without thinking

about it

[drifting anchor]

Thats great man

Thats what top players do

They don’t constantly think the entire game bc it fries them

They have that instinct

They know what to do in the situations there in

[remote agate]

Instincts

Remember that set

last night

where i did extremely good

for 2 of your stucks

stocks*

then just ended up SD’ing

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Yeah

[remote agate]

That was instinct?

cause i dead dont remember

what i did or why i did it

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Flow state

Yeah i think so

[remote agate]

mhm.

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Keep in mind tho

For you right now its gonna hard

But you still don’t know what to do in ur situations yet

[remote agate]

i had “Flow State” whenever i did this

also

[remote agate]

yeah ik

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Good

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Keep this in mind too

[remote agate]

ill watch it after the second one u just sent

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You can practice that in training mode with the CPU hitting you

But keep aware of that in games

[remote agate]

okay

Wait

so how do you control

hold on lemme finish the video

So im watching

the video right

@drifting anchor how do i force

someone into my burst range

Sonic doesnt have a projectile

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Theres a couple of options you can do

[remote agate]

okay

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If you have the stock lead, it automatically forces ur opponent to start approaching you more, making it easier to bait and punish

You also bait them to move in as sonic is really fast on the ground

Shuffling in and out

And when they start moving closer you move away

So you avoid getting hit in their burst range

But now you can punish it

Another thing you can do is just move in yourself

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Like here

Sonic has great burst options

[remote agate]

mhmmm

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So you approach with stuff like uair, spins, grab, whatever you feel like your opponent will likely get hit by

But for the most part you don’t always have to approach

[light lava]

oh

[remote agate]

sonic fast as heck

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Let then come to you

And be ready for it

[remote agate]

looking at it

alr say this thi

tho*

Cause whenever i see players like
You, Ken, Wrath, and Sonido

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Ye feel free to ask questions

[remote agate]

Well

lets say it like dis

[light lava]

when i spindssh

and

the person sheilds

[remote agate]

So yk how they talking abt anti airs

[light lava]

whats do i do

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Ye

[remote agate]

Whenever

they got more

range characters

so like swords

projectiles

and stuff

if thats happening to you as a sonic player again we dont have anything

how do i pressure them to approach

Or do i just stay patient

i have a hard time playing against more rangy characters

And i need to learn how to approach it

[drifting anchor]

Sorry something happening rn

I’ll answer your questions where i get the chance

[remote agate]

gotchu bro

[light lava]

answer

what do i do

if

i spin charge or dash

and ppl sheild

what are some tjings i can do

to punish tjat sheild

that

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Its the same thing

You wanna stay off their burst range so you don’t get hit

Sonic has his speed to bait out options like that

[remote agate]

yeah

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So if your running close to his burst range he might try to approach and hit you

What you do is move away from it

And punish

So you dont get hit and you get the punish

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Grab

What you did was get them to shield

What you gotta do now is start grabbing

[light lava]

ah

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And then afterwards they might start jumping

Bc they might think your gonna grab

So you can uair to where there at

And now their gonna stay grounded

no shield

Moving around to get you to uair again

Thats when you can start spindashing again

[light lava]

ik but the thing os

i cant get their habits in my head

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I’ll show you what i mean when we play but for now watch this https://youtu.be/Gb4MOIpzo4g

You can too @remote agate

[light lava]

alr

[vagrant umbra]

Bros just like me, I played multiverses when my switch broke and i mained finn😭

[drifting anchor]

How tf did you even find that message wtf 💀

[remote agate]

nah fr…

was like 2 days ago

[remote agate]

seen

been working on that

[drifting anchor]

Carry on then

[remote agate]

@drifting anchor

im gonna show u this set i just won

i didnt save it

oh my days bro.

I resetted back to neutral so well

and stayed calm

i was at 120+ and got 2 stocks off of it

i almost lost

to donkey kong

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Good job for hanging in there

[remote agate]

i think i may be catching on

to when to use spindash and spincharge

i can also be more punishing whenever someone jumps

[remote agate]

https://youtu.be/cqFemXe_rig

[remote agate]

i like the way sonix played in this

[remote agate]

https://youtu.be/VKrxznZQVgY

Nd this

[remote agate]

#SmashBros https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy0ausWPUr4

What could i have done better

@drifting anchor

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You still have the habit of using smash attacks constantly when no one is either there to get hit by it or as an out of shield option

For out of shields you should be wanting to do something quick rather than something powerful and laggy

Otherwise you’ll get punished yourself for it

You also still kinda spindash when you shouldn’t be

If you’re gonna spin dash after getting hit, make sure you jump away and do it

So you don’t get hit

You gotta work on landing ur combos

Talking ab the spindash bair

He was right in front of you but you hit the opposite way

Next time when hes in front of you, do a fair

[remote agate]

okay

[drifting anchor]

You also let him way to close to burst range

And

You kept mashing down smash-

Really weird

But when your doing that and the falcon is above you, your gonna get comboed by him

Remember the burst ranges

I get you were trying to use the uair to catch him tho

But like you didn’t move towards his direction

So you missed

And didn’t hit

Work on that too

Lastly

Your edge guarding needs work

You were very close to getting dair’d

And yeah that definitely probably would’ve killed you

Be smart off stage

[remote agate]

ok

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https://youtu.be/nlF0UBhc4DA

Look into this

Important for sonic

[remote agate]

okay

after this match

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@remote agate gimmie an hour and i’ll play with you

@light lava give me 2 hours and i’ll coach you too

Nvm i can play now

Nvm again

Gimmie an hour

[remote agate]

LMFAO

alr igu

[remote agate]

whats the input for this

@drifting anchor

it would help alot

[remote agate]

@drifting anchor ?

[remote agate]

Ive been trying some things

I think you can get away with Sonic by trying to rushdown even tho hes not meant for it

ill wait for your response to finish the example

i gotta perfect combos first

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Jump side b

@remote agate can you game?

[remote agate]

yeah i can

[drifting anchor]

Sweet

Open an arena for me

[remote agate]

or

wait i might still be suspended

yeah

21 minutes

cause i unplugged the charger from the switch on accident

so it disconnected me 💀

i was winning

[drifting anchor]

Oh alr

21 mins..

Ye i can wait

[remote agate]

ai

[remote agate]

https://youtu.be/8HgLOZlrI-k

the first match is kinda what im talking about

You just have to always know what to do nezt

or what you want to do next

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Craftis plays pretty aggressive yeah

Notice in the start tho he doesn’t automatically rush in

He dash dances a bit in and out of burst range to see what he do

And when he noticed the habit he took a guess and went for uair

He doesn’t always rush in as a typical rushdown character would

There’s still that bait and punish game somewhere

@remote agate

[remote agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deT0lU4RVSc

@drifting anchor

[drifting anchor]

Keeping working on ur reaction speed

And spindash punishes

And stop mashing the smash attacks

And you still spindash when you probably shouldn’t be

Like at 0:15, thats easy to catch with a uair but the Dr. mario was too afraid to jump in

And you shouldn’t always turn around when you spindash as over time it can be predictable. Cancel it with dair

For the most part you stopped doing ur dair habits

And you played strong that last segment

@remote agate

And @light lava when will u be available

If anything you can send in vids so i can vod review them for u

[remote agate]

i dwear

everytime i use a “smash attack”

i do it on accident

cause ill end up pressing the button before i move

And it will input a smash

whenever i tried to dash attack

but ive been winning more inline

online*

even against good players

[remote agate]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FjCDaw2KpJ2Ddwidp-puxVRN_5uXVa2aVArfIxyTiw4/mobilebasic

noice

[drifting anchor]

You don’t need to dash attack all the time

Use ur tilts

Also

New tech

https://youtu.be/5IBz3wmgDJg

this should help with those constant f smashes

[remote agate]

ok ill work on it

oh yeah

i figured that out by myself

https://youtu.be/Flm_99Ecmiw

[drifting anchor]

Fun and true vid lol

Sonic do be weak

And his moves are a bit in consistent

[remote agate]

im using ness

as a secondary

so easy to kill

[remote agate]

https://youtu.be/HY637W1vT6A

@drifting anchor breakdown the first match

[remote agate]

@drifting anchor Play in like an hour or 2?

[drifting anchor]

Yeah gonna eat first

[remote agate]

okay

i need to perfect these.
again ik its gon take a while but i need too

Also need better offstage

if you got sum for me to help with that too

[drifting anchor]

https://youtu.be/-aOsjwb1oX0

This should help a bit

Am ready to play btw @remote agate

[remote agate]

okay

getting on

[drifting anchor]

Watch the vid first

[remote agate]

will do

alr

im ready

@drifting anchor

imma try to setup some streaming stuff while i wait for u

[drifting anchor]

Alr

[remote agate]

apparently

you can setup a

xbox as if it was a capture card

[drifting anchor]

wtf? kinda wierd

didnt know that was possible

mb for taking long btw, gimmie 20 mins and ping me again

[remote agate]

nah your fine

im tryna figure this thing out with the xbox

Im looking for 1 thing and my xbox doesnt seem to have it i gotta find it

[drifting anchor]

@remote agate alr am ready

host up

[remote agate]

gotchu

N356X

@drifting anchor

0000 password

Honest Sonic?
Spin
or regular

[drifting anchor]

omw

do your best, play normally

wanna see ur progress

[remote agate]

okay

gg

[drifting anchor]

gg

[remote agate]

run it back

i got it

[drifting anchor]

alr

[remote agate]

too aggressive

[drifting anchor]

gg

[remote agate]

gg

im not thinking fr honestly

Gg

[drifting anchor]

gg

alr tips now

[remote agate]

coach up

yeah

I feel like i went backwards

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You still arent very good at ur burst ranges, as you let me get in a lot primarily when ur in disadvantage. I really shouldnt be doing that, since am such a slow character and ur fast as hell. for the most part u got better at it though, as sometimes i couldnt approach as i felt you were gonna hit me or spindash me

[remote agate]

I think i allow it

because of lack of understanding of it

What is Disadvantage and Advantage

[drifting anchor]

hold on let me finish

[remote agate]

alr

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another plus i noticed is the platform sharking, ur doing alot more of those, which is extremely good. You just have to work on ur speed when doing it, as i was able to quickly get out of it and bair you for being too slow about it

that comes through practice

[remote agate]

Sharking?

[drifting anchor]

ye

[remote agate]

man idk shit

whats that

[drifting anchor]

i told u it already

its when u throw a hitbox above a platform

[remote agate]

Ohhh

Yeah

[drifting anchor]

to pressure shield

[remote agate]

Lowkey i have fun doing that

[drifting anchor]

hella safe

[remote agate]

i feel it applys alot of pressure

[drifting anchor]

if u do it right

[remote agate]

expecially whenever i feel im winning on the ground

[drifting anchor]

it does

so much

you get combos off that

and damge

*damage

[remote agate]

rhats how i won some of my online matches

[drifting anchor]

keep doing those

[remote agate]

and came back cauze they were dcared

scared*

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pressure my landings too

[remote agate]

Okay

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you can do that by charging spin at a safe distance

it forces me to be more careful

alr this time where gonna do something different

[remote agate]

alr

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were gonna play cat and mouse

i chase you

you run away

[remote agate]

Is this to help with burst ranges?

[drifting anchor]

this should help with ur disadvantage

[remote agate]

o

alr

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am gonna drop 3 stocks

ur goal is to time me out

you can use spindash on me

but no killing

got it?

[remote agate]

what if u get to a high percent

and i kill on accident

[drifting anchor]

mb 2 stocks

[remote agate]

do i drop a stock?

[drifting anchor]

nah its fine

just dont fight back

[remote agate]

okay

alr i got it

spindash

[drifting anchor]

spincharge

keep me away

[remote agate]

ok

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LOL

[remote agate]

LMFAOOO

[drifting anchor]

ok

[remote agate]

I got scared 💀💀💀

[drifting anchor]

yeah ganon kills early

you dont wanna do that

[remote agate]

yo im crying 💀

[remote agate]

alr igu

L

gg

[drifting anchor]

gg

[remote agate]

this is hard

[drifting anchor]

do you notice something tho?

i cant catch you

i mean yeah sure am getting hits in

[remote agate]

yeah

[drifting anchor]

but am whiffing ALOT

pay attention to them'

[remote agate]

gg

[drifting anchor]

gg

[remote agate]

its been extra laggy today

[drifting anchor]

really has

when you get far away from my burst range, do you notice how i stop trying to rush in?

when you charge spindash

[remote agate]

yea

[drifting anchor]

do more of those

remember

not too close

not too far

gg

[remote agate]

gg

better

?

[drifting anchor]

extremely

even when i rush in

i get punished

thats the spacing you want

the burst range you want me to be in

[remote agate]

plau

okay*

[drifting anchor]

oh shit

[remote agate]

ayo

[drifting anchor]

i forgot

[remote agate]

😭😭😭😭

[drifting anchor]

lmao

[remote agate]

🤣

yo

[drifting anchor]

gg

[remote agate]

how do i do that

input

like the spindash cancel

it would help alot

and gg

[drifting anchor]

its like spinshot

but you also air dodge

so the command would be release, jump, air dodge down

[remote agate]

I cant do it fully charged right?

[remote agate]

on spinshot u flick the C stick?

[drifting anchor]

you can but it has to be in the air

[drifting anchor]

for spinshot i do

[remote agate]

i do too

[drifting anchor]

but for spindash cancel

i just input jump shoulder button

[remote agate]

i got it as jump too

so spincharge

jump airdodge

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yeah

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ok

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angle air dodge down

[remote agate]

ok

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one more thing

the only reason i keep catching you now is bc of ur airdodges

you tend to go to center stage

mix up where ur landing and mix up the option

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okay

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gg

[remote agate]

gg

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remember to not DI to stage

if am in the air and yk ama go in

do not di to stage

go under

[remote agate]

ok

gg

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gg

[remote agate]

i messed up

SD twice

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alr

this time

[remote agate]

the fact i gotta do that for 10 minutes

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when you spindash

you may hit me

with any move

bair fair uair

[remote agate]

After the spindash?

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after spindash yeah

[remote agate]

okay

gg

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gg

i think i see the problem with ur spindashing

[remote agate]

what is it

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when you didnt attack me, you focused on running away. you were able to get so many spindash punishes off me

but when you were allowed to attack after spindash you fumbled

[remote agate]

yeah

i felt the same thing

when playing

or after i died

[drifting anchor]

i could be the lack of reaction speed and combo game

*it

either way keep that in mind

[remote agate]

okay

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if yk your not gonna be able to hit me, focus on running away

but if you do hit me, hit me with a air move

[remote agate]

ok

FUCK

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gg

[remote agate]

6 minutes

gg

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oops

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lag

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i forgot to snap to lede

ledge

[remote agate]

lmao

YO

THE STAGE

😭

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gg

[remote agate]

gg

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u did good second stock

i mean first

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ye

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i wanted to rush in, you punished me for it

78%

[remote agate]

W

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gg

[remote agate]

gg

[drifting anchor]

gg

[remote agate]

gg

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ur spindashing less

[remote agate]

gotchu

gg

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gg

[remote agate]

So on the last stock

i realised something

and i saw UR2SLOW talk about it

it was on “Why Ken is so good”

Im forcing interactions

that i shouldnt be in in the first place

Like you were all the way across stage and i spindashed at you

which wasn’t needed

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yeah like i said before you wanna have that perfect range

where your far enough not to get hit in my burst range

and close enough to punish me

[remote agate]

gotchu

It lagged

whenever i tried to Up B

gg

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ye i saw that

dw ab it too much

[remote agate]

ok

220!

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gg

[remote agate]

gg

i was looking to kill you

then i remembered the rule

last second

And died

lmaoo

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ye but your getting the hang of it

we'll do a coupld more

[remote agate]

ok

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then we'll mix it up

[remote agate]

gg

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gg

[remote agate]

i did it wrong thag time

run it back

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alr

[remote agate]

planned

😎😎😎

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NICE MAN

that killed like

[remote agate]

😭

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140%

thats good

progress man

keep doing that

[remote agate]

ok

gg

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gg

if you see me above you doing that

you probably shouldnt dash attack

you CAN hit me

but its risky

[remote agate]

its hard

[drifting anchor]

keep that in mind

[remote agate]

yeah

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hard to time

[remote agate]

gg

mb

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gg

its fine

[remote agate]

okay

gg

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gg

definitely improving with this

[remote agate]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-spin-fast-spin-gif-18410613

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quicker reaction speed to my rush ins

[remote agate]

POV Sonic

[remote agate]

alr

so

dont charge it

basically

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charge it when am far

let it go when am close

[remote agate]

does it still have invincibility frames?

when i do that

[drifting anchor]

yeah

[remote agate]

OH

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as long as you do the hop

[remote agate]

I needa study those

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you didnt know??

[remote agate]

no

[drifting anchor]

i thought you did

yeah you could just

do it

[remote agate]

That makes things easier

bet

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like automatically

[remote agate]

okay

L

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gg

[remote agate]

gg

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i saw you were trying to go for there

were you gonna spincharge fair kill me?

[remote agate]

yea

[drifting anchor]

ah ok

good

[remote agate]

and if i didnt have room

it was gonna be a Bair

to pray you die or get far enough to where i could get back on stage

and reset

[drifting anchor]

nah i wouldve went flying with spindash

its a true combo

[remote agate]

gotchu

[drifting anchor]

so i wouldve been dead

when you can't land killing blows

better to get confirms

down b is his strongest one

since you can take me offledge and fair me

keep that in mind

[remote agate]

ok

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gg

[remote agate]

cry

gg

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actually had me scared there

[remote agate]

i was tryn bair tf outta y

u*

lucky i went under stage

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down for fair

side for bair

[remote agate]

ye

the daur

dair

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the good ol diar

[remote agate]

It was too late when i realised

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the classic

gg

[remote agate]

As soon as i pressed down

gg

i knew i was done

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its getting really hard to approach you tho

[remote agate]

Im running away

for my life

[drifting anchor]

yeah

and am whiffing alot of moves

[remote agate]

wait

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you just have to be faster

[remote agate]

Let me drop

2 stocks

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with down b

why?

[remote agate]

It would be more meaningful

well

challenging

and make me be more patient

[drifting anchor]

thats not just the point

the point is to work on ur spindashing

which has worked

the only thing now i'd say to work on is ur killing with spindash and ur speed with spincharge

[remote agate]

understood

nah

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holy shit

[remote agate]

that lag was

crazy

LMFAOOO

[drifting anchor]

reset fr

[remote agate]

bro its been doing this all day

i got one more then imma go to sleep

i got schoo

[drifting anchor]

got you

one more thing

[remote agate]

and prolly esport practice tmr

[remote agate]

later today*

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you remember the situations where i was in the air and u were spincharging?

[remote agate]

yea

id go try n juggle you

[drifting anchor]

you can punish me like that

[remote agate]

?

spindash and jump?

[drifting anchor]

no think of it like catching a landing with a dash attack

but with spindash

[remote agate]

ah

okay

[drifting anchor]

thats how you pressure my landing

but keep in mind

takes timing

bci if i late nair, you'll get hit by it

so do it with caution

but if you master this

you'll punish basically all landings

and kill alot better

or send ppl offstage better

[remote agate]

alr

this is my last one

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[drifting anchor]

ik

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alr

oh na

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finally fuck

[remote agate]

LMFAO

😭😭

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at that point

you just got outplayed lol