#Sonic Coaching

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remote agate
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yet i die

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at 40%

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Finn isnt even this ass in multiversus

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.

heavy geyser
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Finn was like top 3 when I played what

remote agate
heavy geyser
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The nerfs didn't hit him that hard tbf

remote agate
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i just died at 50

heavy geyser
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Yeah that's gonna happen sometimes

drifting anchor
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Happens alot to sonic

remote agate
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happens too much

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😐

drifting anchor
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One of the lowest weight classes in the game

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Very light character

remote agate
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Light and cant kill

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great combination

drifting anchor
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He can kill

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Its just very hard to

remote agate
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yeah

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with a backair

drifting anchor
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I gotta show you something

remote agate
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for the first stock

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finally killed him

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and then i just got spammed

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and still lost

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50% btw

drifting anchor
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Have i sent this one yet?

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@remote agate

remote agate
drifting anchor
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Try this stuff out

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Hopefully it helps with ur killing

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There are also other ways to kill but i gotta find them first

remote agate
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my god

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i finally won

drifting anchor
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Nice

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Ideally with sonic most of ur kills are gonna come from ledge

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Or near it

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With spindash

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Fair

remote agate
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now that i think abt it

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i do feel a bit stiff whenever i move

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imma take a break for a sec

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watch like sonido or sum shi

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and focus more on sonics movement and tech

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Cause again everytime i started using techs on certain stocks just to see the difference he couldnt actually read

drifting anchor
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The ones i sent you will help with killing

remote agate
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when do you think youll be back on?

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@drifting anchor

drifting anchor
remote agate
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ok

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spin-dash jump into Fair

remote agate
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What does Sonido do that everyone else doesnt

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this is who i want to model my game after

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@drifting anchor

drifting anchor
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Sonido is really good at keeping a safe distance from his opponent

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While also getting great spindash punishes

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He understands burst ranges very well which is why alot of the time he wasn’t getting hit

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Could also be partially the MU aswell

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Since randomain wasn’t approaching either

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Not a whole lot of overshooting on his part

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But i feel like if he did he’d have a much better time against sonido

remote agate
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i mean ive seen videos of him doing the same thing against others too at the same time

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i watch him get punished alot

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A burst range

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is where someone can dash and hit u

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correct?

drifting anchor
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It’s because people move in closer

remote agate
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i think i saw a video on it earlier

drifting anchor
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And now your at their burst range

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And you get hit

drifting anchor
remote agate
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So whats the difference between Sonido vs Sonix?

drifting anchor
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Sonix can play just as campy

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But the thing with sonix is

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He doesn’t need to play campy at times

remote agate
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So hes balanced

drifting anchor
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He also does a really good job at reversals

remote agate
drifting anchor
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When he is in an uncomfortable spot he can find a way to take back the advantage

drifting anchor
remote agate
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ah

drifting anchor
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But its very mu dependent with him

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Some mus like wario he’ll camp hard

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But you’ll see him playing really aggressive in steve and snake

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But he understands the burst range stuff too

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If he notices his opponent chasing after him he wont always run away

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He’ll mix it up, fall back and hit them with a combo

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Then the next time the opponent wants to move in they have to consider that sonix might switch from the offensive

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It’s something you have to work on, as your movement is predictable

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Your not threatening enough to not approach

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bc ik your either gonna dash attack me or keep running away

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Dash attack is good for catching stuff quick but you shouldn’t rely on it to rack up damage or kill

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Leave THAT to spindashing

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Or spincharing

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Spincharing gives more damage

remote agate
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Spindash has Invincibility frames

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righ

drifting anchor
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Spindash does give invincibility frames

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Use that for defense

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And spin charge for offense

remote agate
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so

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back to whenever i was playing this morning

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whenever i was talking about how i was making him wrong

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and i tried to attack and it backfired

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yet i was using dash attack

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I shouldve used spincharge?

drifting anchor
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Probably idk what u were doing and what the situation was

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But you do need to use the spins more

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And learn how to properly use them

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And follow up with a combo for them

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Also gotta work on ur strings

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Whenever you finish up attacking you automatically retreat to the ledge

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But by doing so ur allowing your opponent to breathe

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Its good that you keep a safe distance

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Just dont go to far

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Pressure them

remote agate
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ok

drifting anchor
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Make them whiff something

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You wanna stay near them

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But not too close to where they hit you

remote agate
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another thing i need to do i do it in multiversus but i never use it here

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is use the C stick

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for tilts

drifting anchor
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C stick is for tilts and attacks in the air

remote agate
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Speaking of air i was just doing stuff randomly

drifting anchor
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Its really useful for tech since you can focus on moving the analog stick one way and flick the c stick another

remote agate
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and i decided to put an attack button as ZL and it lowkey helped me with air stuff

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and i was doing it just to troll

drifting anchor
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What did you set it as?

remote agate
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ZL to Attack

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i stopped using it tho

drifting anchor
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Interesting

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controls are always up to preference

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But if i had to recommend something definitely have that as jump

remote agate
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It reminded me like a FPS game

drifting anchor
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Helps with sonic tech combos alot

remote agate
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I had jump as a Bumper

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and attack as a trigger

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like aiming and shooting

drifting anchor
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If it’s comfortable for you, maybe try it

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Whatever floats ur boat

remote agate
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💀

drifting anchor
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@remote agate also watch this

remote agate
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needed

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💀

drifting anchor
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Something you also have to work on is your mental thought

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Tend to get frustrated easy

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Which can hurt you badly in the long run

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If you play a game agitated your not gonna get better

remote agate
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fs

drifting anchor
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This is important

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If you keep a calm mindset you’ll be more focused in the game

remote agate
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ok

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about time

remote agate
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Notes

Block more.
Stop Sprint to ledge
Utilize Bair
Utilize Nair
Stop fishing grabs
Use Techs.
Bait Punish
Edge Control
Offstage Combat

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——

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Things to Do (Check as Go)
Movement Mastering
More Tech
Burst Range
Mentality
Full Understanding of Sonido/Sonix/Ken/Wrath
Faster Reaction
Situations

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damn i cant pin

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hol up

remote agate
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@drifting anchor

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i just did the

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Spindash sho

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shot

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or whatever that texh was called

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13 times inna row

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SPINSHOT

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tho

drifting anchor
remote agate
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i think you can only do it to

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the right

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because im trying to do it to the left

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and i cant do it

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even with the attack being ZL

drifting anchor
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Its possible to the right

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You kinda have to practice that side too

remote agate
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ok

remote agate
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@drifting anchor you got sum movement stuff i can do

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or techs

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i like to learn that stuff

drifting anchor
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Called slingshot

remote agate
remote agate
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@drifting anchor i can make Spinshot an approach move?

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i can airdash away

drifting anchor
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But don’t always do it

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Usually best against zoners

remote agate
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gotchu

remote agate
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Difference between Ken and every other sonic?

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@drifting anchor

drifting anchor
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Ken sonic is a essentially a bait and punish, with a hint of rush down

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Doesn’t use spindash as much as other sonics would

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But still uses it

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He waits for you to mess up and he punishes you for it

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Doesn’t hit and run

remote agate
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Im going to watch and study ken then

drifting anchor
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Alr

remote agate
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@drifting anchor best so ive game ive played yet

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i put a sd card in my switch so ill upload games

drifting anchor
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Neato

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I should be ready to game soon

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Give me an hour

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@remote agate

remote agate
remote agate
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we still on?

drifting anchor
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Host

remote agate
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alr

drifting anchor
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👌

remote agate
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lemme finish up rq

drifting anchor
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Got u

remote agate
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what are we working on

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NN6LD

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0000 - password

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@drifting anchor

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i’ll hop in training until your ready again

drifting anchor
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Host

remote agate
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and pass

drifting anchor
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Got u

remote agate
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neutral?

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techs

drifting anchor
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Remake it

remote agate
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?

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ok

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2VYFQ

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same pass

drifting anchor
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Got u

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Play normally

remote agate
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Uhhh

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that was really

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bad

drifting anchor
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Gg

remote agate
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gg

drifting anchor
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You still gotta work on keeping me off you

remote agate
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not focused

drifting anchor
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Reaction speed

remote agate
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ok

drifting anchor
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Killing got better tho

remote agate
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I mean

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im not scared of jumping of ledges anymore

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gg

drifting anchor
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You did

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Still making those dairs tho..

remote agate
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im going

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to implement more stuff

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Coach me up

drifting anchor
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So much better

remote agate
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im taking alot of

remote agate
drifting anchor
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your making it a little bit more scarier to approach you now

remote agate
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what do you think the difference is?

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i feel my confidence is better also

drifting anchor
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Wdym

remote agate
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like what am i doing better

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than i was

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the other day

drifting anchor
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Your offstage game for a start

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Your more comfortable offstage then u were yesterday

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Keep it up

remote agate
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okay

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thanks

drifting anchor
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Second is your smash attacks

remote agate
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now what can i start doing better

drifting anchor
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Ur not mindlessly throwing them out either

remote agate
drifting anchor
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Your using quicker options such as jab

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You were also a bit more threatening than usual

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I still could get in but it wasn’t as much as it was like last time where i hard read ur escapes and dash attack you

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Keep me like that and combo me

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Issues would still be the dair

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And your also getting a bit antsy to hit me offstage

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Which made you SD

remote agate
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yeah

drifting anchor
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keep those 2 in mind

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Gg

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Another thing am noticing

remote agate
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all the progress went backwards

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gg

remote agate
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ye

drifting anchor
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You’re kinda throwing out attacks again

remote agate
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yeah

drifting anchor
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Like when i was the air

remote agate
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mis imput

drifting anchor
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You were jabbing

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so it was an easy dair

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Keep in mind where am at

remote agate
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Im still getting used to the

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Bumper jump

drifting anchor
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And punish accordingly

remote agate
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i tried to jump and Up air

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and jabbed

drifting anchor
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Make sure ur attacks hit me and not casper the ghost yk

remote agate
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okay

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gg

drifting anchor
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😭

remote agate
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i see what i did wrong

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plus a SD twice

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💀

drifting anchor
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Bro you didn’t need to go offstage like

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I was dead already

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You pressured me

remote agate
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i noticed

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a bit to late

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pause

drifting anchor
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Ooof

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yeah thats tricky

remote agate
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did u do that on purpose

drifting anchor
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If you recover behind like that you wont snap to ledge normally for some reason

remote agate
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how do you handle pressure

drifting anchor
remote agate
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you were

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way more aggressive that set

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and i didnt adjust

drifting anchor
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I wasn’t that aggressive

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I just did a bunch of call outs

remote agate
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bro i didnt touch the ground

drifting anchor
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Habits u were doing

remote agate
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ok

drifting anchor
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Like jumping on to stage

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I dair that

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And your dair also

remote agate
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gg….

drifting anchor
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You did it again

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Stop doing that

remote agate
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?

drifting anchor
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you tried to jump on to stage

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That last stock

remote agate
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ok

drifting anchor
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Dont do that

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Am looking for those

remote agate
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gg

drifting anchor
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Gg

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That time you weren’t threatening

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So it was easier to approach

remote agate
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i feel

drifting anchor
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But you did stop going on to the stage a little less

remote agate
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ive been less threatening

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every match

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like decreasing

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and idk what the difference was

drifting anchor
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It was the combos and strings you were doing

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Through spindash

remote agate
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okay

drifting anchor
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Its why you’re easy to approach

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Bc ik ama get more damage off then u are

remote agate
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yk what i think

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would be better

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Tell me what you would do

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cause your a sonic main too

drifting anchor
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As sonic or ganon?

remote agate
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sonic

drifting anchor
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Well

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I see what my opponent does

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While maintaining my space

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If they rush to me, I usually stuff it out with a grab/jab/tilt

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Whichever feels better to use in the situation

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But over everything i want my opponent to either get grabbed or spindashed

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Since those are my combo starters

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From there i rack up damage

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And i back off when i cant combo anymore

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Most sonics would run back and spindash

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But i stay a safe distance, but close enough to punish what they do

remote agate
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i think thats a problem for me

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I dont actually

drifting anchor
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Usually i can spindash

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Or grab

remote agate
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Analyze a Situation

drifting anchor
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And continue the pressure

remote agate
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As soon as the game starts im looking to be the first one to hit

drifting anchor
remote agate
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and it cost my stock

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every time.

drifting anchor
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Dont be

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Its not about who gets the first hit

remote agate
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Lets say i wait it out

drifting anchor
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Its about what the opponent is likely to do

remote agate
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and get the grabs and stuff

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and i get a good combo in

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Is that where i continue to apply pressure?

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or do i just go back?

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and wait again

drifting anchor
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well it depends

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I like to have my opponent above a platform

remote agate
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up air

drifting anchor
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Bc i can continue stringing my combos

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Yeah

remote agate
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got you

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i had the good lead

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and then

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SD

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twice

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💀

drifting anchor
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Pay attention to where am at

remote agate
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ngl

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i don’t understand what your trying to tell me

drifting anchor
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What questions do you have

remote agate
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wym pay attention where you at?

drifting anchor
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i’ll break it down

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ok so

remote agate
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your on the stage im trying to get you off

drifting anchor
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Yeah but your not hitting me

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Your hitting the air

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Last game when i started doing nothing you jabbed the air in front of you

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And i was above you

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What was the point of that jab?

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am not down there

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Am up on the platform

remote agate
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ok

drifting anchor
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Do you get it?

remote agate
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yeah

drifting anchor
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alr

remote agate
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i see

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gg

drifting anchor
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Gg

remote agate
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just go again

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i see

drifting anchor
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Mhm

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Gg

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Spindashing shouldn’t be predictable like that

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Mix up timing

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Use the cancels

remote agate
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bro

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im not learning from you doing that ngl

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its just fustrating me more

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if i fuck something up

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punish me for it

drifting anchor
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Got u

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Just wanted you to know

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Gg

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Dont jump on to stage like that

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Remember

remote agate
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why goes it take me

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100 years

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to drop down a platform

drifting anchor
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🤔

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I had that issue too recently

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I got a new tech for that

remote agate
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ok show it after this

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im not done until i perfect ts.

drifting anchor
remote agate
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why

drifting anchor
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Had something cooking there

remote agate
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ion underestand

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how do i start off good

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at the start of the session

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and start going bad

drifting anchor
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Maybe its ganon

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Rather than using a character that kills u for making mistakes like that I should just do the ditto

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So you know how i play sonic

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And copy what i do

remote agate
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i understand now

drifting anchor
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💀

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Gotta stop doing that lol

remote agate
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?

drifting anchor
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U Keep throwing the games

remote agate
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u can go back to gannon

drifting anchor
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U sure?

remote agate
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yea

drifting anchor
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Alr

remote agate
drifting anchor
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Its not ab winning

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Its ab learning

remote agate
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i did

drifting anchor
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That’s why ur here

remote agate
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thats all i got from your sonic

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Click B

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it works!

drifting anchor
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Theres more to it

remote agate
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yeah but i dont know that

drifting anchor
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Ask questions then

remote agate
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I dont kno what else to ask bro

drifting anchor
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Ask anything

remote agate
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Anything

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oh perfect question

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Why are you better

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why is your movement better

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why when you spin charge it actually works

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why are you everywhere on the screen

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how are you able to kill so quickly

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how are you alive at 171 but im dead at 120

drifting anchor
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because you’ve been playing for days

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I’ve been playing for years

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and i did it all by myself

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you play like me when i was starting out too

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Difference is

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You have help

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So it’ll catch on quicker for you

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But you gotta be calm

remote agate
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the movement aspect

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is what i need

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Thats really all i see to it

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personally

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Sonic is the fastest character in the game you play cat and mouse with him

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if your somewhere different

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on the screen

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every second

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then there is no way my eyes can actually lock on and figure out what your doing

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Its movement

drifting anchor
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That takes experience

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From you continuing to play the game

remote agate
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I can still get coached on it tho

drifting anchor
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and practicing combos

drifting anchor
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You are

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Am teaching you as much as i know to the best of my abilities

remote agate
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oh ye i wanna point this out rq

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dont get mad whenever im asking questions or anything. Im just asking cause i want answers

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cause ik it can come out the wrong way

drifting anchor
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Never am

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I too would be frustrated in ur position

remote agate
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How is practicing combos

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the equivalent of running

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around a screen.

drifting anchor
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It isnt?

remote agate
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I asked abt movement

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and you said combo

drifting anchor
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Oh

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Thats separate

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You practice combos and tech in training

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But you practice movement in a match

remote agate
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ok

rose bison
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sonic has a lot of movement tech

remote agate
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who is that

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hello

drifting anchor
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Idk

rose bison
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his side b has got to be the best move

drifting anchor
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it’s pretty good ye

rose bison
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gotta utilize it

remote agate
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@drifting anchor dont fight

drifting anchor
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Are you trying to do what i do on platforms @remote agate

remote agate
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unpredictable

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is the better question

drifting anchor
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I don’t always camp

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I sometimes approach

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If i keeping doing the same things over and over again i’ll be punished for it

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Regardless of the move

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Thats how you stay unpredictable

remote agate
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you do alot of dodging tho

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something you told me not to do

drifting anchor
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Thats my habit then ig

remote agate
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i did not mean to killmyself

remote agate
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its affecting your movement

drifting anchor
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Do you mean in neutral or when am in platforms

remote agate
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neutral

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ik what your doing on platform

drifting anchor
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Well ye thats kinda my habit tho

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I tend to air dodge quite a bit when in disadvantage

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It is punishable tho

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It doesn’t work bc your not punishing it

remote agate
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show me

drifting anchor
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You run

remote agate
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you moving

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acrosd the screen

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rq

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not what i meant

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the stuff you were doing

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whenever fighting me

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there

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i need

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to learn that

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@drifting anchor

drifting anchor
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Which?

remote agate
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Instant spin jump

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your just moving fast in general

drifting anchor
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Its a combination of different tech

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such as low fast fall airs canceling slingshot

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Its why am fast

remote agate
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typa lag

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ok

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@drifting anchor

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do you ise

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2 jump bottons

drifting anchor
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Yeah

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Shoulder button and Y button

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I use a gamecube controller

remote agate
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oh

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yeah makes sense

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wait

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lets break this down rq

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simplify it

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all your doing

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is short hopping

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and fast falling

drifting anchor
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And combination of the tech

remote agate
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and then add texh

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yeah

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bro

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this makes it so much easier

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i need to be more consistent

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on fast falling

drifting anchor
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And short hopping

remote agate
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short hopping i press 2 buttons at once

drifting anchor
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No thats IDJ

remote agate
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no

drifting anchor
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very different

remote agate
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you can short hop

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?

drifting anchor
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Oh ye

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YE

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nvm

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You can also input any attack and jump

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That will also short hop

remote agate
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its all an illusion

drifting anchor
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What is?

remote agate
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i gotta learn how to fast fall

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its legit the base of what im tryna learn

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and i never realized it

drifting anchor
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Its definitely important

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Yeah

remote agate
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see

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that answers all my movement questions

drifting anchor
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I was so run up on teaching you the sonic tech I forgot ab that one 💀

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Thats like the most important one

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Mb on my part

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But ye

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Learn to fast fall

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And short hop

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That starts ur combos

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Makes ur quicker

remote agate
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yeah

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i see

remote agate
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oh yeah

drifting anchor
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if i were you

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Practice doing short hop uairs

remote agate
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sonic tech helped me win a game

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earlier

drifting anchor
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Short hop uairs are how you catch opponents and combo them

remote agate
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i used spinshot and foward air for a kill

drifting anchor
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Especially on platforms

remote agate
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okay

drifting anchor
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You do short hop uairs on platforms to shark their landings

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Shark is where you throw a hitbox above you when your above a platform

remote agate
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okay

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told u i mastered it

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its so easy jow

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now*

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You ready to play some matches now?

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yeah

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Alr

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Yesh

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ok

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Might switch back to sonic tho

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After

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We’ll see

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lag?

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@drifting anchor

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Yeah

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Just let it ride out

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Had to reset

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ok

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Still throwing out smash attacks tho

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Dont do that

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mis imputs

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gotta use c stick

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Ah ok

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i swore that locked on

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whatever tho

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So

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The thing with homing attack

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It wont work on invincibility frames

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Which is what i did

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Or have been doing

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ok

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Down dodge basically

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Gg

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gg

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Your doing better

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But theres one thing I noticed

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?

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I was testing this out during the match

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I began to hold shield more

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But you kept hitting it

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Your doing a good job at making me shield

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punidh it

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But you don’t grab anymore

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grab

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Yeah

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Alot less

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got hu

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Gg

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then i started fishing for grabs

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Not enough

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gg

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i just gotta react

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atp

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Exactly

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dont ask

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Lol

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Also don’t forget the spindashes

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i keep forgetting i have them

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FUCK

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gg

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Jesus man

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That was the best you played

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You were doing really good that match

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where did i start to messup

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ik towards the end

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i got greedy

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Grabbed my shields stuffed my rush ins

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ngl i think i did half of that by accident

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You still homing attack too much

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damn ian even noticed

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And the dair habit is still there

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did i at least mix up spindashes?

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I used spinshot

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You did

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I wasn’t sure what u were gonna do

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Made me afraid to approach

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i saved that one just to watch it over

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that felt good

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Keep doing more of those

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Gg

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see what i mean tho

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Not consistent

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Its there tho

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I see it

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you think i can watch the other game real quick

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Ur a better player than u were yesterday

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I’ll tell you that much

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yeah

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lemme watch the other game rq

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Gg

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the one i did good

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Yeah go ahead

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or decent

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gotta take notes

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Indeed

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honestly

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take a note of my habits too

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i think its the way i used spindash

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You still kinda need to work on that

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But your getting the hang of it

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ok

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alr i think im ready

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@drifting anchor

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damn i closed out the stock with 12%

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Lets play one more

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okay

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at the same time tho

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L9YBM

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i was running

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like ledge sprinting

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at times where i couldve hit you

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short hop bair

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completely stop and do a tilt

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Yeah still gotta learn to punish that

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Oh that

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@drifting anchor ?

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Honestly

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Its better to do nair

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That way

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mhm

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You can combo off of it

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Get a uair

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To bair

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Get like 70%

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Nair is good

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Use it

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ok

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ngl

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i wasnt ready

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gg

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i still suck

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Bro that literally lasted 35 seconds

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🤣

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vix

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The sd

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vux

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you have spindash

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vux you can use down b

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and side b

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Dont jump onto stage too

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yeah

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i see

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im predictable

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Gg

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i started to read it better

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gg

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but still

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everytime i dash

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my go to is Fair

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you picked it up and started grabbing

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not geabbing

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shielding

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That my friend

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so i started geabbing

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Is neutral

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Or more specifically

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Adapting

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got damn

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Gg

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im trying to see

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gg

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how i adapt to that

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Thankfully your not jumping in to stage anymore

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Adapt to what?

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my go to rush move is gone

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Gg

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Is this what makes Sonix Unpredictable

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I think im starting to see it

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Since your blocking my rush down

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which would be dair

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fair**

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Playing defensive and baiting you

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into thinking its a fair

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and punishing it

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yeah

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yk what i meant

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FUCK

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gg

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The dairs dude

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Thats the one thing you keep doing consistently

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neutral

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gotta nair

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gg

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You could’ve survived that

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ik

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always DI

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didnt feel like it

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💀

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Gave up

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bro its to laggy

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Ye it happens

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You know

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Dair

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what would be helpful

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teach me how to use my spindashes

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correctly

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now that i think abt it

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the match where u said was my best

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i was using spindash with a purpose

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saw it working and kept doing it

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idk what i saw

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but i need to kno what it was cause it was really affective

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Lets play another game

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But this time

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Try and use spindash

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This is so i can see what ur doing wrong

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ok

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all confidence

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is gone

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So

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The thing with you and spindashes

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You do them at the wrong times

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So whats the right time

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Like when am near you, you’d start charging

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is that not good

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And then i dash attack u

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You can’t let that happen

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You have to space out

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And if am catching you before you can do it then you either need to release it faster so the invincibility frames are active or you need to be farther from me

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Question

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Ye

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Remember when i asked

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what does KEN sonic do differently

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than others

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Ye

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can you explain that again

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Ken plays a bait and punish with a hint of rushdown

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He waits for his opponents to mess up and he attacks accordingly

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is there no true rushdown sonic?

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Rushdown sonic is painfully UNoptimal

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mhm.

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bait and punish is the best you can go

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alr

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And hit and run

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now when to use

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spindashes

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Yeah

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So

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When you use spindash

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You want ur opponent to be at a certain distance

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Remember when I talked ab burst ranges?

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yeah

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Its the same thing

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You wanna make sure your outside their burst ranges

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Bc if you aren’t

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You’ll get dash attacked

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question

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whenever you block yk how it gets smaller

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whenever you hit someone

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does it gradually go back up

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?

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A shield poke is where an opponents hurtbox is outside their shield

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thats good tip

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but not what i asked

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And you attack that hurtbox

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If i was to get hit

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and the shield gets smaller

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id i hit them back

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will my shield go back up

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No

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It regenerates through time

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But if you continue to use it

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ok

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It’ll grow smaller

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And thats not good

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Bc that can potentially get a shield break

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Which is self explanatory

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I did it to you a couple of times

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okay

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You never wanna hold shield that long against ganon

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Especially if their charging it

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It will eat ur shield

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okay

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And

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For spindashes

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im watching the UR2SLOW

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rn

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Remember when i said side b for defense and down b for offense?

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yeah

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For side b you wanna do those at the end of ledges

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So if you notice me chase you again

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Run to ledge and charge

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ok

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And if am dash dancing and stuff or if your confident you’ll land spincharge, do spincharge

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okay

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If you feel like am gonna go after you when in the air after spindash, you can charge it in the air to keep me guessing

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Ama show you the distance

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Dont fight

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Yet

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this

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is like half the stage

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Ganon burst range

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…

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Is this long

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Stay still

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This range

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i think i understand now

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U get it?

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Yeah

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Stay outside of that range

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yeah

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lagging

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yk what i think

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hm?

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F spin dash

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You didn’t even use it that much

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ik

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And when you did you hit me

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cause ion kno when

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“use it on the ledge”

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Gets dash attaxked

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Ur not

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gets grabbed

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You haven’t been doing it

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bro what?

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i literally used the dang near the entire match

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What you did the entire match was jump away from me

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no

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i used spin dash

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Which had the right intentions

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and homing attacked

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lets just play man