ImmersiveFirmaCraft Beta?

[dense dagger]

im making a pack for myself to play (might post it once im done with it)

im tryna integrate immersive engineering+petroleum into tfc more better, looking for any ideas/suggestions to make it better integrated. Im using the tfc+ie compat as the base, with addons firma life and dfc.

this is the aluminum process im working on

you can then use a blast furnace to convert that into real aluminum

actually to be truer to real life, im thinking I add a blast furnace recipe with bauxite dust, using salt as a flux to make the chlorinated aluminum, then having the acid directly produce aluminum powder

i also believe im completely removing the multiblock miner from ie, it just doesnt fit with tfc at all

you can double ores via the crusher, so that should be good enough for tfc purposes

[dense dagger]

got the pre arc furnace bauxite-aluminum done

im thinking i make engineering blocks require an aluminum ingot, somehow.

youd make the arc furnace first since you get an 8x yield of aluminum allowing you to build the other multiblocks

(also skips the chlorination/amalgam processing completely)

jesus christ

thats definitely an endgame item

[hallow timber]

modern immersive petroleum?

i thought that was fabric only or something

[dense dagger]

nah

i found a unofficial port

god when im done this modpack its gonna be a blast

also quick question ank

you said to just remove recipes in tfc by making a blank file, will that cause issues? im noticing my latest log errors on that file for each item i made

like if i remove 100+ items like that will it lag?

[hallow timber]

first it wont lag

recipes are loaded once

[dense dagger]

well it would make loading in take longer then right

[hallow timber]

second put this as the blank file
{
"conditions": [
{
"type": "forge:false"
}
]
}

[hallow timber]

no its negligible

[dense dagger]

what does that do?

[hallow timber]

it will still load the file but it means nothing its essentially empty

[dense dagger]

like that

?

[hallow timber]

itll overwrite the one thats originally in that filepath

[hallow timber]

yeah but what are you overriding rn

[dense dagger]

im removing your alumina metal items, and using it as a precursor to metallic aluminum

[hallow timber]

ok

just like remove the recipes

[dense dagger]

ah one sec cropped bad

those are the blank jsons

[hallow timber]

yeah exactly like that

[dense dagger]

ok good, was wondering if i did it wrong

gotta go through the rest

ah wait its not nvm

every alumina item is successfully removed except for alumina powder :)

[hallow timber]

if the recipes just use the tag #forge:ingot/aluminum it should work with mine already since theyre already tagged

[dense dagger]

yeah ik

i just want to remove the ugly double use and hide the recipes

like, i want it to have one possible input rather than having both

[hallow timber]

oh right

[dense dagger]

purely for cosmetic reasons, i never want to see immersives aluminum ingot

[hallow timber]

you can overwrite the tag so it only has my ingot and not tfc ies

[dense dagger]

actually good idea, that can be done way faster

just throw that in my datapack tags right

[hallow timber]

yeah just copy the tag file and turn overwrite on

i think its at the bottom of the tag file

[dense dagger]

tag file?

[hallow timber]

the file for the tag in this case forge/ingot/aluminum

you just change replace to true

[dense dagger]

wheres that at

i think im in the wrong place

im in your mod rn

ah nvm i clicked blocks instead of items

then i just overwrite that in the datapack, ty

ive done it, but i still see the ie ingot by default

and its included in the tag

[hallow timber]

your datapack loads before ies datapack

i think

way to make it load first is by changing the first thing to an a i think

or a !

something like that, its sorted in alphabetical order

[dense dagger]

same thing

i put a ! in front of my "recipes" datapack

figured it out with kubejs

i just manually removed the tag from aluminum ingots

ill do the same for the rods

[ruby elm]

Can you get me link to immersive petroleum? I can't find 1.20.1 version

[dense dagger]

one sec

theres no link i just have a floating jar file

i have no idea wheres its from

someone posted it in someones modpack content thread

[ruby elm]

Ok, thanks

[dense dagger]

To-do
•Replace aluminum ingots in recipes with dfc ingots done

*integrate IE aluminum items better, make them recyclable in a forge, and remove duplicate entries. done

•fully fix immersive petroleum to use tfc ingots, and remove op/unused recipes done

•Rebalance immersive engineering multiblocks, to better fit tfc progression done (every multiblock now requires one aluminum ingot in its redstone control hatch)

•remove excavator multiblock (put on hold. Mod owner made it very difficult, instead remove all the ore veins.)

•add an improved support out of steel to better facilitate the multimine drill from immersive engineering without instantly collapsing a cave

•remove garden cloche done

•rebalance immersive fertilizerslategame coral can produce a bunch of fertilizer. Theres also no satisfying way to make semi passive fertilizer.

•remove unused jei arc furnace recipes

•Change up ore generation to make certain ores rarer, and figure out if i want to keep native aluminum ore from dfc.

•Add the ability to use coke in the blast furnace

•utilise leaded glass from dfc in some recipes using normal glass.

•remove alumina+aluminum items from jeidone

*fix the steel situation. Remove ie steel, and add an arc furnace recipe for iron ore-> steel, to better facilitate late game IE
also remove ie blast furnace (custom sponge iron recipe in blast furnace using coal coke?? :o)

*add more efficient recipes using steel instead of wrought iron

*fix aluminum dupe glitch in arc furnace

*fix the crusher recipes dear god why does it have so many errors

*normalize aluminum heating recipes to 680 C (leave native aluminum at brilliant white)

*remove alloy kiln (make sure to transfer any recipes get moved to arc furnace/charcoal forge)

*clean up metal press recipes (tons of vanilla ingot recipes)

*fix up loophopes for vanilla blocks (crusher for vanilla gravel/sand)

*iron plates might need changing, no way around them. (perhaps change all iron plates out for steel plates...?)

*go through immersive itself to make sure there arent any vanilla items in use, like the lantern using vanilla glowstone. (probably just remove that one)

*add asbestos to lava boat recipe in petro

*dear god all the item sizes are wrong. Fix that.

*figure out how to configure immersive containers to not accept large items like logs

*remove blast brick and reinforced blast brick

*implement artisanal

*edit the engineers manual to remove everything ive removed

[clear hare]

Tbh I'd recommend storing this on a Google doc or smth

Or Obsidian

Don't use Google

[dense dagger]

yeah i was thinking about that, but i tab a bunch into discord so its more convienent if i have it here, so i wont have to have google open

if it gets any longer i might move it

since i sometimes have to open google to figure out how to do something in kjs

[clear hare]

Btw, Artisanal just added a petroleum refining system, though I'm not sure how useful that'll be to you

[dense dagger]

has it?

ill take a look rq

i havent included your mod in my pack, let me check it out.

it might make my game more interesting

[clear hare]

Well, crude oil, anyway. I used to call it petroleum but I'm not act sure if that's correct anymore, so went w crude oil. Same concept tho

[dense dagger]

whats the process in artisan?

i was planning to do an entire custom line where i liquefact coal into diesel

if i can just slot your mod in, and use that with petroleum thatd be amazing

[clear hare]

• The crude oil fluid naturally spawns in the world, either sour crude or sweet crude.
• Pick it up like in a bucket or smth
• Distill sour crude to get sweet crude
• Distill sweet crude to get kerosene and bitumen

[dense dagger]

oh it adds pockets that spawn? oo thats really cool

wait i can add those liquids to the bedrock fluids too!

then the pumpjack can pump them up

ie petroleum has a pumpjack, and invisible fluid veins

im also reading all the other features of the mod, canning would probably go really well with the early industrial vibe of immersive

and i can add a can recipe to the metal press....

im getting so many ideas

your mod has a primitive distillery???????

oml

im adding it

i can do so much with that

metal drums too, this mod is amazing

this like perfectly bridges a bunch of gaps in ie/tfc

[dense dagger]

jei work for alumina is complete, above is before below is after

i dont know how to get rid of that liquid, so it can stay

[dense dagger]

just learned how to make custom multiblock recipes via datapack

[hallow timber]

What’s sponge iron

[dense dagger]

its the intermediary for modern steel making

you reduce iron ore in a blast furnace then use an arc furnace to turn it into steel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_reduced_iron

[hallow timber]

You should make it more in depth and maybe add plastic molding for black steel..

And asphalt too

[dense dagger]

asphalt would be a cool roads+roofs addon

[hallow timber]

I wanna add vinyl panels but adding oil refining is a bit out of scope for dfc..

[dense dagger]

ie petreoleum already has ethylene, which chemically can be made into vinyl

although thats for this pack, not really dfc

you could also do a compat with artisinal that adds a vinyl recipe, they have a distillery

[hallow timber]

Oh I thought it was a immersive engineering thing

[dense dagger]

ye, it really should be an ie thing but its not

so im gonna probably add it, since currently you are stuck with hammering every steel ingot via tfc

but i want to keep the tfc blast furnace, so this method is the best of both worlds

[hallow timber]

If mrht makes it more in depth I’ll think about it..

[hallow timber]

I think simplifying the process too much wouldn’t be good..

[dense dagger]

well its more complicated

[hallow timber]

Maybe you should be able to run pig iron through a arc furnace to avoid the hammering but you still have to run the blast furnace

[dense dagger]

you have a second step to do, it just saves the hammering in an anvil

yeah i guess that makes more sense, and saves me work on a blast furnace recipe

i did some research and pig iron is used for steel making in an arc furnace, which is the reason i wanted to do sponge iron anyway

i think ill make you have to get pig iron powder, though.

that way its not as simple as throwing it into an arc furnace, you have to quern the ingot first.

ill compensate by having the arc furnace process alot of steel at once, 10-20 ingots

[hallow timber]

Blast furnace recipes are dead easy

[dense dagger]

my main concern is how i would differentiate the two iron recipes, sponge iron and pig iron

[hallow timber]

Actually pretty much all one off recipes are super easy

[hallow timber]

I think this is a case of gameplay over realism

Where they’re both intermediary steel products and it’s easier to simplify it

[dense dagger]

100%

i agree

i will have to make a custom item for pig iron dust, though

[hallow timber]

I thought dfc added that

[dense dagger]

luckily theres so many dust textures in this pack i can pick a suitable brown one

nah, you added one for every main ore, not any of the intermediary steels

[hallow timber]

Oh

[dense dagger]

your cast iron powder looks close enough, though

ill use that texture

[hallow timber]

I think I didn’t add it for any of the metals that don’t have parts

[dense dagger]

ye

[hallow timber]

Like unknown and those random intermediaries

[dense dagger]

pig iron has no uses other than making steel

[dense dagger]

way easier to edit multiblocks than i thought

goodbye blast furnaces

at some point i must have broken coke ovens.

they wont form no matter what i do,wierd

ill try without my datapack to see if its a me issue or if tfc ie compat stops it forming

yep its a my datapack issue

time to dig up what happened

ok so now i cant join any world with my datapack, it gives me invalid player data...?

its probably because the world contained a blast furnace that i disabled

had an error message saying blast furnace didnt exist, then it quits. removing it fixed it

so i cant edit multiblocks like that.. wierd

[dense dagger]

got a good chunk of this worked on today, i think thats it for now

updated todo list push

To-do
•Replace aluminum ingots in recipes with dfc ingots done

*integrate IE aluminum items better, make them recyclable in a forge, and remove duplicate entries. done

•fully fix immersive petroleum to use tfc ingots, and remove op/unused recipes done

•Rebalance immersive engineering multiblocks, to better fit tfc progression done (every multiblock now requires one aluminum ingot in its redstone control hatch)

•remove excavator multiblock (put on hold. Mod owner made it very difficult, instead remove all the ore veins.)

•add an improved support out of steel to better facilitate the multimine drill from immersive engineering without instantly collapsing a cave

•remove garden cloche done

•rebalance immersive fertilizerslategame coral can produce a bunch of fertilizer. Theres also no satisfying way to make semi passive fertilizer.

•remove unused jei arc furnace recipes mostly done, need to figure out the grit recipes later

•Change up ore generation to make certain ores rarer, and figure out if i want to keep native aluminum ore from dfc.

•Add the ability to use coke in the blast furnaceno petcoke because its alot more impure than normal coal coke

•utilise leaded glass from dfc in some recipes using normal glass. used reinforced glass instead, fits better

•remove alumina+aluminum items from jeidone

*fix the steel situation. Remove ie steel, and add an arc furnace recipe for iron ore steel, to better facilitate late game IE also remove ie blast furnace removed, steel consolidated, now everything uses tfc steel. Pig iron is also directly transmutable in arc furnace with a good deal of energy over 20 seconds.

*add more efficient recipes using steel instead of wrought iron, half done, still need to check rods. done

*fix aluminum dupe glitch in arc furnace did it accidentally on my arc furnace pass

*fix the crusher recipes dear god why does it have so many errors removed all the vanilla recipes, still need to do the dusts though in my ingot pass

*normalize aluminum heating recipes to 680 C (leave native aluminum at brilliant white)

*remove alloy kiln (make sure to transfer any recipes get moved to arc furnace/charcoal forge) ill remove the bricks later

*clean up metal press recipes (tons of vanilla ingot recipes)

*rework the basic mechanisms to use brass mechanisms (mwaheheh) :)

*fix up loophopes for vanilla blocks (crusher for vanilla gravel/sand)

*iron plates might need changing, no way around them. (perhaps change all iron plates out for steel plates...?) solution found by just making a way for higher efficiency iron plates using steel

*go through immersive itself to make sure there arent any vanilla items in use, like the lantern using vanilla glowstone. (probably just remove that one)

*add asbestos to lava boat recipe in petro (find an alternative ideally, so i dont have to make asbestos ore spawn for one item)

*dear god all the item sizes are wrong. Fix that.

*figure out how to configure immersive containers to not accept large items like logs

*remove blast brick and reinforced blast brick

*wtf why is bauxite here get rid of it gross

*brain wave: add crusher byproducts to crushing ore that give other elements (like silver from galena, iron from tetrahedrite, etc!) tetrahedrite is now the god of all ores. I had to remove iron because it broke the gui...

*fix the other ingots added by ie to use tfc ingots when applicable

*implement artisanal

*implement immersives grit, probably just replace it with powder in recipes from dfc, im unsure.

*edit the engineers manual to remove everything ive removed

*change bullet casings to use brass

[hallow timber]

Where did you get asbestos from

[clear hare]

Imma be real I love ur confidence. Also I think Rosia(?) adds metal supports? And it also is a mod I'd recommend adding regardless

Like I say this as the person who spent multiple months datapacking before doing any modding. So much of this is modding stuff that I wouldn't be able to just casually do so it's really cool to see you committing to learning this much with such confidence

[dense dagger]

your modpack has asbestos ore in it and an asbestos item (unused i think)

[dense dagger]

Ive been having fun doing it, i was actually looking at rosia earlier, but if i added it id disable everything except the supports and a few other things, so im iffy on adding a mod just for one item yknow

speaking of that, back to it.

the more work i do the more excited i am to play it

[dense dagger]

what to do with wrought iron

been putting it off for so long

basically every ie recipe uses wrought iron that uses vanilla iron, I think im gonna replace it all with steel

im also not sure i like arc furnace making the end game tfc materials, i think im gonna limit those to only the crucible (which can be electrically heated anyway thanks to the tfc compat, so ill just make more crucibles if i need scaled production)

[dense dagger]

im gonna make ore deposits better™
quartz in gold veins, gonna have to research what to add in other ones, if any

this is what im doing for my research

im too deep

[dense dagger]

i found out that the rock type cryolite spawns in sometimes has magnetite, so ill just put a 1% chance for magnetite in cryolite deposits, to make them easier to spot in diorite.

[dense dagger]

got steel consolidated, now i can start making mid-ie progression a bit better by replacing all this GROSS wrought iron with COOL steel :)

i do want to keep steel plates for later recipes, so ill make a way to convert steel ingots directly into iron plates.

maybe i rename plates to "low strength" and "high strength"

so theres less confusion

[hallow timber]

Steel plates?

[dense dagger]

yeah from ie

[dense dagger]

doin some mork work, made a tag so immersive engineering recipes could use either wrought iron/steel for the lower tier recipes, since steel is easier to make in bulk later in tfc

[dense dagger]

this recipe might be evil, but increasing mining speed is super powerful

[ruby elm]

Is that crushed amethyst?

[dense dagger]

diamond powder, and sapphire, ie corundum

can be mined near volcanos/springs

or panned from chalk

[dense dagger]

im debating on removing all vanilla minecraft items from jei...

its always bothered me in tfc how all these unused items just clutter it up

[dense dagger]

much more fitting

gotta add the anvil recipe and a metal press recipe for both mechanisms i think, so you can save your fingers from forging

or maybe not

[dense dagger]

in_biome tag

configured_feature file

placed_feature file

these are all the files i need right?

im not sure what im doing wrong

The current issue im facing is no ore generates at all

[minor acorn]

You're tag should be tfc:vein/asbestos

[dense dagger]

launching to test

ore is back!

let me see if my ore exists

ty

lets go!!!!!!

now i need to put it in the proper geology

ty ank for adding serpentine XD

[hallow timber]

I intended for it to only spawn in serpentine and later peridotite btw

[dense dagger]

yeee

i might make it spawn in gabbro too, just so its not too rare, although the main use will be the steel boat from ie which works on lava, so maybe its fine being pretty rare

i also need to add the collapse recipe

[hallow timber]

Collapse recipes are pretty annoying just copy the ones for single density ores like saltpeter and change saltpeter for asbestos

[dense dagger]

good idea

speaking of lava boats

why cant i find this type of generation playing survival?

that blue ceiling with the lava cavern is amazingly pretty

like

This is the PERFECT greenhouse spot. Aquifers for irrigation.

lava for lighting

with no temp mod this is the golden spot to set up a giant farm

anyway back to making the modpack

[minor acorn]

👍

I've had enough world gen troubles of my own 😭

[dense dagger]

yeah, ive been mostly getting by trial and error, with worldgen theres just so much that goes wrong

[dense dagger]

im gonna work on adding byproducts to the ore crusher, like lead from uranium, etc etc. just to make it a bit more fun to grind ores in the crusher

[dense dagger]

with how many ores are just straight up half sulfur, im probably gonna make tfc sulfur grind into 8 sulfur instead of 4

[dense dagger]

like how i meant to deal with tetrahedrite?

its entire identity is substitutions

im removing iron from it

curse me for realism im saving this poor gui

it cant handle the raw power of lore accurate tetrehedrite

[hallow timber]

Isn’t this a bit op

[dense dagger]

the way i see it, you are getting silver and lead from this, as a byproduct

i removed iron for the opness of it

you get 5x as much silver/lead from mining their respective ores, as per rich ore you have a 1/4 chance to get half of the dust back

the sulfur im still thinking about

what do you think i should do

[ruby elm]

This seems really simple way to separate ores.... Maybe you could add step to get rid of sulphur first?

Or a different way which gives it

[dense dagger]

hmm

that id have to think about

i dont have any easy method to do that currently, i originally thought barrel recipes, but those dont accept multiple outputs

afaik

currently the process is crush ore into powder ->arc furnace 20 powder for one ingot

[ruby elm]

From what I know they don't:(

[ruby elm]

Soo Basic ie

[dense dagger]

yeerp

bulk processing is probably easier with crucibles, due to the electrical crucible heater and casting table automation

[ruby elm]

Kinda

With few batteries you can run arc furnace for reasonable amount of time

[dense dagger]

mhmm

the biggest issue is the crusher, you are incentivised to use it since it gives twice as much ore powder as a quern. but the powder is unusable except for the ore furnace

so you have to put alot more resources into processing it if you go the crusher route

[ruby elm]

Anke them meltable?

I think I did something similar in my pack

Or at least I will lol

[dense dagger]

thatd make that too easy i feel, since ore doubling is already pretty op in tfc

[ruby elm]

Hmm

Maybe make it dirty?

[dense dagger]

dirty?

[ruby elm]

Or something

And make it requir further processing?

[dense dagger]

like from the crusher?

[ruby elm]

For that double

Yeah

[dense dagger]

hmm

let me look over my resources here to see what i could use for that step

there are convienent metal powders for every single metal added by dfc that i can use

im just unsure what machine i could use for the

wait

[ruby elm]

Cool

[dense dagger]

theres a mixer

from ie

[ruby elm]

There is

[dense dagger]

hmmmmm

im intrigued now

[ruby elm]

Mixing ore with water?

Or solvent

[dense dagger]

powder

[ruby elm]

Or something?

[dense dagger]

ye

[ruby elm]

Cool

You can always just add more slop

[dense dagger]

crusher->tfc powder->mixer+liquid->metal powder->melt it however you want

[ruby elm]

Geology is neat :> and I am to lazy to work on my pack

[dense dagger]

except for aluminum

aluminum stays arc furnace, since theres a pre smelting way to get purified aluminum

now what to wash the ores with, probably just water

[ruby elm]

You could make them create some dirty water which could be used to get those extra ores? Fluids don't need graphics :>

[dense dagger]

ohh i see

the mixer outputs fluids not items

it is really easy to just spam custom fluids for that reason yeah

how do i process them into powders though

[ruby elm]

Squizer?

But you would have to make some easier way to get ores without that much work

[dense dagger]

that takes items input only

theres already the base tfc way

grab ores, smelt them

the ie stuff comes post-stainless steel

[ruby elm]

Yeah, but next one requires 5 machines...

[dense dagger]

you get a vat to make pure aluminum, which allows you to start making the multiblocks

[ruby elm]

Why ore processing has to be soo complicated....

[dense dagger]

you were the one who suggested this XD

the b4 process was two steps, crusher>arc furnace

[ruby elm]

But that would be too uncomplicated

[dense dagger]

you also need the power generation for the arc furnace, and the infrastructure for all of it

[ruby elm]

Ok, I will leave rest of the puzzle to you lol have fun working with kube

[dense dagger]

ty ty

to-do bump

To-do
•Replace aluminum ingots in recipes with dfc ingots done

*integrate IE aluminum items better, make them recyclable in a forge, and remove duplicate entries. done

•fully fix immersive petroleum to use tfc ingots, and remove op/unused recipes done

•Rebalance immersive engineering multiblocks, to better fit tfc progression done (every multiblock now requires one aluminum ingot in its redstone control hatch)

•remove excavator multiblock (put on hold. Mod owner made it very difficult, instead remove all the ore veins.)

•add an improved support out of steel to better facilitate the multimine drill from immersive engineering without instantly collapsing a cave

•remove garden cloche done

•rebalance immersive fertilizerslategame coral can produce a bunch of fertilizer. Theres also no satisfying way to make semi passive fertilizer.

•remove unused jei arc furnace recipes mostly done, need to figure out the grit recipes later

•Change up ore generation to make certain ores rarer, and figure out if i want to keep native aluminum ore from dfc.

•Add the ability to use coke in the blast furnaceno petcoke because its alot more impure than normal coal coke

•utilise leaded glass from dfc in some recipes using normal glass. used reinforced glass instead, fits better

•remove alumina+aluminum items from jeidone

*fix the steel situation. Remove ie steel, and add an arc furnace recipe for iron ore steel, to better facilitate late game IE also remove ie blast furnace removed, steel consolidated, now everything uses tfc steel. Pig iron is also directly transmutable in arc furnace with a good deal of energy over 20 seconds.

*add more efficient recipes using steel instead of wrought iron, half done, still need to check rods. done

*fix aluminum dupe glitch in arc furnace did it accidentally on my arc furnace pass

*fix the crusher recipes dear god why does it have so many errors removed all the vanilla recipes, still need to do the dusts though in my ingot pass

*normalize aluminum heating recipes to 680 C (leave native aluminum at brilliant white)

*remove alloy kiln (make sure to transfer any recipes get moved to arc furnace/charcoal forge) ill remove the bricks later

*clean up metal press recipes (tons of vanilla ingot recipes)

*rework the basic mechanisms to use brass mechanisms (mwaheheh) :)

*fix up loophopes for vanilla blocks (crusher for vanilla gravel/sand)

*iron plates might need changing, no way around them. (perhaps change all iron plates out for steel plates...?) solution found by just making a way for higher efficiency iron plates using steel

*go through immersive itself to make sure there arent any vanilla items in use, like the lantern using vanilla glowstone. (probably just remove that one) as far as im aware, no more infinite lights aside from powered lanterns, hopefully...

*add asbestos to lava boat recipe in petro (find an alternative ideally, so i dont have to make asbestos ore spawn for one item)

*dear god all the item sizes are wrong. Fix that. everything that holds fluid in inventory is huge to incentivise pipes. all tools are now very heavy/very large. Drill is huge to make mining an endeavor, but worth it

*figure out how to configure immersive containers to not accept large items like logs

*remove blast brick and reinforced blast brick

*wtf why is bauxite here get rid of it gross, lead too!!! ew!!!

*brain wave: add crusher byproducts to crushing ore that give other elements (like silver from galena, iron from tetrahedrite, etc!) tetrahedrite is now the god of all ores. I had to remove iron because it broke the gui...

*fix the other ingots added by ie to use tfc ingots when applicable

*implement artisanal

*implement immersives grit, probably just replace it with powder in recipes from dfc, im unsure.

*edit the engineers manual to remove everything ive removed

*change bullet casings to use brass

[dense dagger]

hmmm

i want to add immersive engineering shaders just for funsies, i dont know how to implement them

im thinking you can craft the shader grabbags, maybe using gemstones?

like, all pyrite for the common. mix of rarer and rarer gems the higher up, culminating in all ruby for the epic

i kinda dont want it to just be a normal crafting recipe though, that seems too easy...

i was thinking sewing recipe, but those dont accept items

these seem like reasonable crafts.

im thinking a custom "prismatic"
series.

that gets more colorful the higher tier it is

[dense dagger]

got the items all drawn and ingame

i really dont like how tier 4 looks but im not gonna try too much harder

tier 5 looks the best imo

just realising i reversed lapis/pyrite in the recipe. gotta fix that

[dense dagger]

got the recipe working, gonna be alot of redstone acid for each chance, but you have an increased chance to get what you dont have already when you pull, plus its purely cosmetic

all are working, and a week for the masterwork bag seems fair, comparing it to aged alcohol

[dense dagger]

hmmm

should i make the drill very heavy and huge

so you are overburdened with it, making it a tradeoff from normal mining?

i kinda like that idea tbh

im doing my cosmetic passes now, then i fix up the final bit of ore gen and im basically done

the biggest thing left to do is make immersive containers obey item sizes

[dense dagger]

and my todo is officially 4000 letters long

amazing

[dense dagger]

im guessing this works to disable it XD

[ruby elm]

Ummmm, you would need Dyson sphere to power this thing
....

[dense dagger]

exactly

i dont want you using it

tfc ore veins are big enough

[ruby elm]

Challenge accepted/j I am not going to wait a month next to excavator to get 1 cobble you won

[dense dagger]

real

im pretty sure its actually impossible to use it because putting too much power in a wire destroys it right

[ruby elm]

Oh

It is not that bad

Only 40 hours when using hv

[dense dagger]

ye

i didnt want to put it too high for fear of running into an overflow

[ruby elm]

Soo IT IS possible

[dense dagger]

i also set the depletion to 1 and the mining speed to 0.001 per tick

[ruby elm]

Excavator accepts 3x hv

...

[dense dagger]

10 is the base iirc

[ruby elm]

You really hate excavator

[dense dagger]

look you get an op 5x5 drill

i just need to add that better support

so you dont instant collapse when you use it

[ruby elm]

Excavator is bigger and looks better this it is superrior

[dense dagger]

big machine scary

[ruby elm]

Big machine cool

[dense dagger]

perhaps

[ruby elm]

And can eat people !

[dense dagger]

youve got the crusher for that :)

[ruby elm]

*looks at crusher

[dense dagger]

this pack actually has a way to get the shaders too

unlike 90% of every pack ever

all ive got left to do on my list is to

add upgraded support
replace grit with powder
and edit the engineer manual

then i should be done, with everything i wanted to set out to do

i might get done that 2day or tmrw, ill just post it here for feedback while i play it myself

[hallow timber]

How do you want the supports to look

If you just want stronger base tfc supports you can clone them, retexture them, then in the json file that determines how effective they are as supports increase their support distance

[dense dagger]

yea that was my plan

I was gonna make them probably out of steel plates from ie

[dense dagger]

how would i go about cloning them?

[dense dagger]

ImmersiveFirmaCraft Beta?

ill post this curseforge profile here

tldr for the mod:

it combines the tfc ie addon, immersive petroleum, and immersive engineering and uses tfc for the base of the tech.

ill be playtesting it for a while, if you wanna try it out go ahead and let me know if you find something bad, or have a suggestion.

99% of it is just changing recipes to combine tfc and ie better

important note is excavator is DISABLED.
although you can still build it, its nearly unusable

[dense dagger]

playing it a bit, im probably gonna add xaeros minimap, and a couple other qol

[autumn otter]

nifty ships but not firmaciv?

[dense dagger]

got firmaciv

no alekis tho, i forgor

[hardy jetty]

Isn't Nifty Ships just "FirmaCiv but for non-TFC contexts"?

[dense dagger]

it adds the sloop iirc

idk what else it does

[hallow timber]

Nifty ships is vanilla firmaciv

Now firmaciv is a tfc compat for nifty ships

[dense dagger]

i see

[arctic cedar]

Used to be the other way around

[dense dagger]

its definitely a tfc pack, thats for sure.

12 hours in and i havent gotten close to starting Immersive engineering stuff yet

[dense dagger]

add:
-xaeros minimap
-alekis nifty ships
-inv tweaks

• recipe for clinker bricks

[dense dagger]

@lethal mauve since you are online, i checked out rosia and it seems their supports are bugged and dont actually work to support a larger range.

how would i clone tfcs supports and add a new type?
(with larger range)

i can probably model a simple steel texture for them

[lethal mauve]

I'll check out the code, give me a minute

[hallow timber]

You register new blocks with the same class as tfc supports

[dense dagger]

I dont know how to do any of that is the issue

[hallow timber]

Can’t you do that with kubejs

[dense dagger]

like i understand tags but class is a foreign concept to me

maybe? idk

I could add a single block that supports, but i want to copy tfcs supports

like, the non horizontal ones do nothing

plus i want a higher range, too

[hallow timber]

Classes are Java files and when registering new blocks they reference a class to determine that blocks functionality

[dense dagger]

hmm

[lethal mauve]

From what I can see the support behaviour actually depends on JSON, specifically /data/[addon name]/tfc/supports/[your json file here]. You can check out horizontal_support_beam.json from TFC as a base "template", just make sure adjust the support ranges appropriately

[dense dagger]

I see

i think i knew that from before, My issue is how do i make the supports connect like normal tfc supports

i want them to be basically identical besides the model and the support range/recipe

[lethal mauve]

Since you have Rosia, you could just assign their metal supports your desired support ranges and potentially adjust the recipes. Otherwise you'd have to add a new block based on the TFC classes as Ank explained