#NA is cooked

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raven sluice
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there are a grand total of 5 people who can enter new raid d3 gg

rustic cairn
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we are collectively cooked

slow whale
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here we go again

patent marsh
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surelly we can enter the raid w/o spending the right kidney

stray olive
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NA is cooked

swift elk
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NA is cooked

meager flame
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NA is cooked

stray olive
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yes u can argue this isnt content in our server but lets be honest

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NA is cooked

tepid basin
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NA is getting diddled by kog fr

swift elk
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like maybe the IB expainsion is big

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but uh...

spare quarry
swift elk
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😬

stray olive
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🤣

woven cove
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NA is cooked

stray olive
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idc if u argue that this isnt content in our region

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same argument is gonna happen when it releases in a month

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we literally dont have the people to run this content

lusty stumpBOT
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screentear has been warned

Reason: Mass emoji

stray olive
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🤣 🤣 🤣

woven cove
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😂

stray olive
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so we cant complain

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when we cant run the content

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so i still think this feedback should be sent to KR devs

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so 🤣

restive peak
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shutting down thread for talking about KR content

vague fractal
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surely they matter right! ^ - ^

restive peak
stray olive
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like no this conversation needs to happen now.

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before we get the content.

sand sluice
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20m entry is actually stupid

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na can form like what

stray olive
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like

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???????????

sand sluice
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1 whole party

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xddd

stray olive
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1 party

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yeah

raven sluice
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bro

stray olive
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lol

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even with IB

slow whale
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wym glo and other 4 20m cp dps ll clear new raid

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trust

raven sluice
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I’m gonna be put on OM

stray olive
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u get 2 parties with 2 people overlapping

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lol

lusty stumpBOT
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heartmelt has been warned

Reason: Mass emoji

raven sluice
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bro

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my alt OM can enter

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🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

slow whale
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we have 1 sup woohooo

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now if u can make 1 mo go np

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u re set

stray olive
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like idc if this content isnt released in NA yet this convo needs to happen before it hits us

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cuz like lol

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at least with serp we were like "ok 13m is doable lol"

sand sluice
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nah we know full well kogs response will be just

stray olive
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20????????????????????????

sand sluice
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'just run d1 lol xDDDD'

stray olive
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basically

sand sluice
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true

slow whale
raven sluice
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@quasi ivy what r we supposed to do now lol

sand sluice
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ill even take like

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15m d3

stray olive
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yea

sand sluice
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20m is just dumb

raven sluice
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if u say “content isn’t in NA yet”

stray olive
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ill take 15m

raven sluice
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it’s gonna be in a month

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I would take

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18M

stray olive
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content isnt in NA yet is an awful excuse

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cuz

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omg

raven sluice
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18M is reasonable with

sand sluice
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nah i think

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15m

raven sluice
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spirit challenger

stray olive
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this content comes out soon

raven sluice
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sand sluice
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is fine

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cuz like

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serp just released

stray olive
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18m is so much more reasonable but 15m is ideal lol

sand sluice
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and that has 15m d4

slow whale
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17m is still doable with new ib slots

sand sluice
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xdddd

slow whale
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20m is diabolical

stray olive
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yeah lol\

sand sluice
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like atp what

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are we forced to be

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+12

stray olive
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we cant even rush reforges

sand sluice
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full r21 exa

slow whale
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sell ur kidney? I dont think it ll be enough fr

stray olive
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the drop rates are terrible?????

sand sluice
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and sc

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?

stray olive
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rushing reforges isnt even sustainable cuz i can buy out board and still not be full r21

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lol

slow whale
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how many of na can even clear serp dailies

sand sluice
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a decent amt

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9m+ is pretty easy tbh

stray olive
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10m+ is easy

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20m+ isnt.

sand sluice
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like

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its so dumb

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how we went from

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5m ran raid

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to 15m serp

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to 20m new raid

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xddd

slow whale
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but cp increase exponentially UwU

lusty stumpBOT
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screentear has been warned

Reason: Mass emoji

stray olive
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🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

sand sluice
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and its only been like half a year since serp too

stray olive
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yeah it hasnt been long enough

broken osprey
sand sluice
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we basically literally went from 5m straight to 20m

stray olive
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no improved drop rates for steel

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like

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?????????????????????

proud pumice
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i cant wait for like 3 people to enter new raid

slow whale
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wynn 5 people pls

stray olive
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WE CANT EVEN RUSH REFORGES WHICH IS MAJORITY OF OURCP

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BECAUSE IF I BUY OUT BOARD

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IM STILL NOT EVEN FULL R21

slow whale
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we are having glo OM and other 4 dps enter

sand sluice
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i can spend like

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200m ed for 3 clicks

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xddd

stray olive
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200M????

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ITS 500M NOW

proud pumice
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the worst part is its clearly based on whatever they think the avg kr person's cp is

sand sluice
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and no pola/adapt cap increase is diabolical too

proud pumice
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and i dont even think the average kr person has 20m

sand sluice
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xddd

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like

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with ib acc slots

stray olive
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yeah

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lol

sand sluice
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we hella overcap adapt

crude plover
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they waiting the "ib slots" make up for cp inflation

proud pumice
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like if ur gonna go and say avg cp is 20m in kr then the raid's d3 should be like 17m at best

crude plover
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(i doubt it does)

slow whale
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I m overcapped cdr and adapt and pola

proud pumice
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like lol

slow whale
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🤝

stray olive
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especially cuz we run mr 3/3 again which gives us pola and adapt

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🤣

sand sluice
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yea

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overcap

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pola

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and adapt

slow whale
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u saw new raid acc too

sand sluice
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xdddd

stray olive
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dude

slow whale
proud pumice
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this also all circles back to

stray olive
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like

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??

proud pumice
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IBs being most of the cp in the game outside of gear

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but IB rotations only being 3 months each time

stray olive
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yea lol

proud pumice
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so whatever IB they get that inflates them to high hell

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we wont be seeing for 6 months

stray olive
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and oh boy new IB in kr which is prob gonna be powercreep again !!!!!!!!!

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time to drop another $500 to pity

proud pumice
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idk

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part of me wants to hope kr sees the 20m and goes are you people crazy

slow whale
proud pumice
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but the chances r so slim

sand sluice
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every raid the min cp req has been getting worse

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like way worse

proud pumice
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yeah

sand sluice
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like literally rosso was what

stray olive
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400k -> 1.5m -> 5m -> 13m -> 20m

sand sluice
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300k

stray olive
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🤣

sand sluice
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but your avg dps was 2m+

proud pumice
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its like

stray olive
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yeah lol

sand sluice
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1.5m req for berthe but your dps was 5m+

proud pumice
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somehow they think the cp rises at a rate faster than it actually does

sand sluice
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5m req for ran but avg dps was 8m+

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then we get to serp where avg dps can literally still need to inflate cp to get in

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xddd

proud pumice
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and with the min being 20m ur probably not dpsing until like 30

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or to be more forgiving

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25

sand sluice
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like i need an explanation on why my ca

slow whale
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I hope raid is based on actual cp req

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if not its not getting cleared

sand sluice
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needs to inflate cp to get into serp raid

proud pumice
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it just

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doenst make sense

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that

sand sluice
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like its literally not even a 'you def need at least this much gear to contribute' anymore

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its literally just

proud pumice
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d3 in orchestra is what 15m

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or 13

sand sluice
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oh we want you to spend money to be able to run our content

slow whale
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13

sand sluice
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ggs

proud pumice
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and yet d3 aponia is 20

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like

stray olive
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if serp had more time to float before this raid released it would be fine, but serp hasnt been out long and the armor is rng on rng on rng on rng on rng on rng on rng that it just isnt feasible to get good enough gear for the average endgame player 💀

proud pumice
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clearly if they want people to actually drop the wep they should move it to a d2 drop

stray olive
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and also the steel drops is so little

stray olive
slow whale
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they delayed exa, they didnt delay wep they overlapped cp req went crazy

proud pumice
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but i also feel like this difficulty thing is a way for them to justify inflating cp like this

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bc from monaterra to serp its a 2m jump

stray olive
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like maybe they just wanna delay us as long as possible

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but also

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????

proud pumice
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just to go from steel wall to city

sand sluice
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and it can be wrong colour too!!!

proud pumice
stray olive
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idk what replicator drop is but real

proud pumice
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delaying us makes no sense

slow whale
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does kr have full replicator exa?

proud pumice
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no

stray olive
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no

proud pumice
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idt anyone on any server does

slow whale
proud pumice
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bc its just so unfeasible

sand sluice
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na has dropped a grand total of

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1 replicator

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btw

slow whale
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the biggest whale server in existence isnt minmaxed

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and new content coming

proud pumice
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like

sand sluice
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kr has at best like

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12% pieces atm

proud pumice
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if they want to delay exa/people having max exa

sand sluice
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xdddd

proud pumice
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why the hell is the raid 20m

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to even get the rewards that would make it worth running

slow whale
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why is it being released this soon

proud pumice
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bc for some reason they love a 2 year content cycle but clearly its not sustainable at this rate

slow whale
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forcing people to progress in unprecedent speed to catch up

proud pumice
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atp i'd rather they release 2 chars a year vs us getting 2 raids

slow whale
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the 2 year content cycle died tene to exa

sand sluice
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nah we were due for an armor set

slow whale
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I know

sand sluice
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they just made it

slow whale
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they delayed

sand sluice
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stupidly rng

slow whale
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but they didnt delay weapon

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so now they overlapped

sand sluice
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weap was delayed half a year

slow whale
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but cp req considers there is still year diff

swift elk
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guys

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its actually possible with full +11

proud pumice
swift elk
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some chars are CP infalted

slow whale
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well if cp gonna be like this I agree

swift elk
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but uh

proud pumice
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of they wanna inflate like this

swift elk
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at most theres gonna be D2s

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and D3 parties

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so its not cooked at all

sand sluice
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dude

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theres like

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8 people on this server

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who can enter d3

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at 20m req

swift elk
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since exascale might seem easier to grind better be ez to get CP

sand sluice
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xddd

slow whale
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glo said 5

swift elk
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xd

sand sluice
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yes

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ik

proud pumice
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we have less than 15 people who can even enter

sand sluice
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you cant even get weap outside of

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d3

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so like whats the point of running d1/2

swift elk
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filling the bar

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till one day u get CP

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xd

proud pumice
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19m being min is nice and all and then you realize like most of the server cant even enter

slow whale
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we have clear aspect of the raid too

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u need to enter and clear

sand sluice
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xdddddddddd

slow whale
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wanna add dps cp for those raids too

proud pumice
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we probably arent even gonna clear for like at least 4 months

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if not more

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4 is being nice

stray olive
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Like yeah smallest jump sure but, people were already well above the cp when other raids came out

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Handful of ppl are 20m+

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Very small handful

shell cedar
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Not to mention we are supposed to get a second raid not too long after this new one 👍

sand sluice
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nah its just

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the final part of the raid

proud pumice
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no theyre just adding the last dungeon

sand sluice
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it should still be 20m

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like the rest

proud pumice
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if it isnt ill laugh

shell cedar
stray olive
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Hey guys kr is complaining so maybe we will get a change!

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With 0 input from our server!!!

swift elk
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exascale better be easier ngl

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to grind

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and give hella CP

slow whale
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glo, sage and me try 3 clearing

proud pumice
swift elk
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i knew the moment SC was pity

proud pumice
swift elk
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this raid was gonna be 15-20m cp

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thats CP for free

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2-3m

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xd

slow whale
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15m cp is doable

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17m cp even is doable

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20m is just 💀

stray olive
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I’m 18m with SC +12 perfect soa so

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:)

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Can push to 19 tho easily

proud pumice
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go put on some def ignore stones

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u loser

stray olive
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I just need to change my erp

slow whale
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some more critical here and there

stray olive
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lol

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I have it into raw atk instead of mpr

shell cedar
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Crack open those Crit sockets chop chop

slow whale
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I m already 90% crit for crit debuff

sand sluice
slow whale
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we opened what 4 thread?

stray olive
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True!!!!

slow whale
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I dont believe any of em ll give fruit

sand sluice
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the threads are literally just player vent channels atp

stray olive
sand sluice
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theres probs some kog employee sipping tea watching this stuff go down

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👍

stray olive
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Just “will be forwarded” but no actual input

stray olive
sand sluice
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true

slow whale
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they dont even tell if the person u reported got banend or not

sand sluice
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jokes aside

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something has to change

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either things on na side has to be more accessible

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or cp reqs and whatnot need to be toned down

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its like literally impossible to keep up with endgame content nowadays without spending literal hundreds of dollars a month

slow whale
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progression is bound to item mall, prices are hella expensive, cp requirements are diabolical. they need to fix 1 by 1

sand sluice
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reminder that the average price for ib pity

slow whale
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640 dollar

sand sluice
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is over $500

slow whale
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400 ib

sand sluice
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usd btw

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so its even more cooked if you're using any other currency

proud pumice
slow whale
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its even more expensive for other countries if ur country puts conversion tax

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jsut wanted to add

swift elk
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bro

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its just a AsD AE

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or AE BN angle

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then

stray olive
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Dude I’m not worried about my cp

swift elk
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cuz 2 ibs of 5% cdr

stray olive
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I hit easily lol

swift elk
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makes it 10%

slow whale
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peter is leviathan atp

stray olive
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I’m literally not worried about my own cp

swift elk
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then u swap circlet stat to crit or MPR

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and then

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boom

stray olive
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Vert shut up

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Ur not listening

swift elk
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ik

stray olive
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I’m talking about the +11 support players lol

swift elk
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all i can say for NA is

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either if they are dps

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or support

stray olive
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NA is cooked lol

sand sluice
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dude

swift elk
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improve skill issue so yall can clear 15-6 and get SC

sand sluice
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forming for craids is alr hard enough as it is

swift elk
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its not hard

stray olive
swift elk
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ppl arent taken cuz skill issue

sand sluice
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go form then

stray olive
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I alr have sc tho so 😂

slow whale
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nah this is ragebait at its finest

sand sluice
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i dont think

slow whale
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I m out

swift elk
sand sluice
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skill issue is the only reason why

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the avg na player doesnt clear cberthe

proud pumice
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me when people have lives that dont revolve around playing elsword

sand sluice
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like if you look at

sand sluice
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most other servers

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they have way more gear

swift elk
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how?

stray olive
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Me when I had to leave pts cuz my schedule doesn’t line up 😂

swift elk
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KR does

sand sluice
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literally just 'kill the boss before it kills you' moment

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tw

swift elk
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but how INT or EU or JP or CN or TW

slow whale
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skill issue = I dont wanna drop 1-2 liver in this game

stray olive
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INT lol

swift elk
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have gear

slow whale
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bro said INT

sand sluice
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tw literally has asd ring xddd

stray olive
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Have they even cleared cberthe

proud pumice
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r we comparing to kr where they spend more and overall have more people

swift elk
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EU can just +13 and call it a day

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thats it

proud pumice
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int cleared before na did iirc

stray olive
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Oh nice

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We r last.

proud pumice
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eu

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lol

stray olive
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Eu lol

swift elk
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eu lol

sand sluice
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but thats besides the point

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like literally every other server

proud pumice
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i too would have a +13 if the economy wasnt actual garbage

slow whale
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int has 40% bonus whales are having easy time in INT. avg f2p is just dying in INT

sand sluice
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that has its avg playerbase

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clearing cberthe

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is a lot more geared on avg

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than na

lilac escarp
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tbh na has the timezone problem, other servers don't suffer from that

slow whale
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we have 12h difference in NA server

stray olive
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Gg NA not actually being NA

sand sluice
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ggs na more int than int

slow whale
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like its 12 pm here

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does even anyone here remotely close to me

stray olive
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4am lol

proud pumice
slow whale
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peter wanna clear cberthe

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we just need to find 8 hours diff solution

stray olive
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Real

sand sluice
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forming a cberthe clear pty is possible

stray olive
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It’s possible

sand sluice
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its just always grabbing the same people that have alr clearedd

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xddd

stray olive
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Tbf I can make one it’s just

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My time doesn’t ever line up

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Me when 2 job

slow whale
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we have lives outside of elsword, surprising isnt it

sand sluice
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like how many players

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on na

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have cleared cberthe

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less than 30 right?

proud pumice
slow whale
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prob

sand sluice
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we def have more than 30 competent players on this server

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so why arent there more clears

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its literally not just skill issue

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theres more to it

slow whale
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  1. people who are shy to do it
  2. 8 people having free time same time
  3. people having enough gear to clear
stray olive
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Because my resources!!!!!!

raven sluice
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can we get

stray olive
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As if resources are expensive lol

raven sluice
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NA is cooked chain

lilac escarp
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challenge was meant to be "optional content" lmaocry

stray olive
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NA is cooked.

sand sluice
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yea and now sc is required

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to even enter content

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xddd

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NA is cooked.

raven sluice
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it’s ok

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u don’t need to do 15-6 to get sc

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sand sluice
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true

stray olive
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True

lilac escarp
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NA is cooked

sand sluice
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fork over 600 usd

slow whale
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and tbh I dotn expect new player to do it perfectly in one go without fail in their first attempt even if they know mechs watched guides

sand sluice
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to someone selling

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except rmt is banned too

stray olive
sand sluice
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👍

proud pumice
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i need them ro figure out a way to make content that doesnt require cp to be how we measure things

sand sluice
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true!

spare quarry
sand sluice
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24 rotations of 15-5

stray olive
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If you measure with cp don’t make it 20m??

sand sluice
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what could possibly be the issue

proud pumice
sand sluice
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the problem with

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min cp req nowadays

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is like

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why do i need

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13m+ to enter serp

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when im literally dpsing in there

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at like 11m

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xddd

stray olive
sand sluice
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its not even just cs

proud pumice
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min cp has always been a lie

stray olive
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I’m 18m and I’m doing the same dmg as a 10m cp mischief

sand sluice
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literally any dps class can just

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dps

proud pumice
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like lol

sand sluice
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in there

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under min cp req

stray olive
sand sluice
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like its just dumb

proud pumice
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5m to enter abyss but ur not dpsing toll 8

lilac escarp
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and funny how d4 isn't a 15% difficulty increase over d3, as the cp would suggest

stray olive
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I play ES

proud pumice
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class diff

stray olive
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Tell that to my ES players after hitbox change

sand sluice
proud pumice
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rosso was like 2m

sand sluice
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300k entry to rosso but you werent dps until ~2m at least

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👍

stray olive
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True!

proud pumice
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iust get

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1.7m

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ez

slow whale
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entire platform d be broken with 300k cp dpses

stray olive
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Ran release u need to be like 9m+

proud pumice
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i just need them

sand sluice
lilac escarp
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look at the pattern tho, each weapon raid has a 3-4x cp increase each time

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so in 2 years we'll have a 60m cp raid

sand sluice
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no

proud pumice
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to figure out a way to make content that doesnt revolve around making the min cp req the way it is or making cp the entry requirement

sand sluice
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like

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dude

stray olive
proud pumice
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bc this is just not sustainable

raven sluice
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ngl

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they could do

lilac escarp
raven sluice
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minimum title unlocks

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  • gear reqs
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like u need NF concerto and exa SoA to enter

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lol

stray olive
proud pumice
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farm it loser boy

slow whale
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they can put either of the req

stray olive
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I have a life

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Sorry

proud pumice
slow whale
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be 20m cp or have these

lilac escarp
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ye, cp never was a good stat

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like why i need 20m cp, if all I do is heal

sand sluice
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rosso 300k entry ~2m min dps: 6.67x
berthe 1.5m entry ~5m min dps: 4x
ran 5m entry ~9m min dps: 1.8x
serp 13m entry ~11m min dps: 0.846x
new raid 20m entry 👍

stray olive
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Too busy rizzing up gyatts

sand sluice
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i cant wait to be able to dps on a 15m cp setup

proud pumice
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spray say that again

stray olive
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😂

sand sluice
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like someone explain to me

slow whale
sand sluice
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how we went from

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6.67x

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to 0.846x

stray olive
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Whatever I’m going to sleep

sand sluice
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within like

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6 years

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💀

proud pumice
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see u in ur dreams bb

stray olive
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If I see something like “this content isn’t out yet in NA pls stop yapping” I’m uninstalling and I’m not loading up for AE lol

slow whale
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I m not loading up for AE to being with

sand sluice
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true

slow whale
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I consider factually dropping 100 but yeah no ty

proud pumice
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cant wait for the "it isnt in na yet so stop talking ab it" bc lol

slow whale
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na they ll just delete post. I bet on that

lilac escarp
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kr is talking about that and they don't have it yet until tomorrow so bcakekw

keen tusk
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They should stick with the old elsword, everyone is a dps and can use pt buff to each other

sand sluice
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true

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kr is complaining

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maybe it will be changed

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👍

keen tusk
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Dps gear give more cp than you try to build a full sup gear

lilac escarp
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they can either

  • lower the cp requirement
  • just implement gear requirements, like it used to be with the level gear prior to cp
sand sluice
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we have gear req

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min tene gear to enter some places

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soon exa gated too probs

lilac escarp
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ye but i can have an exa at 5m cp, and at 20m cp

sand sluice
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oh what you mean is

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as long as i have exa set equipped

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i can enter

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type of thing

lilac escarp
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pretty much, and could be nice if they can account for stats like reforge/enhance etc

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and just give us a "bare minimum" and "recommended"

slow whale
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imagine their response "we are trying to stop bussing"

proud pumice
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this aint lost ark

keen tusk
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I think the update wont let you change your gear when in the dungeon

slow whale
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I know

slow whale
keen tusk
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Idk

proud pumice
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thats just the list for the set effects

lilac escarp
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they mean the ib set effects

proud pumice
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not switching gear

keen tusk
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Oh ok

tawdry gorge
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Uh guys I think this thread is gonna get clapped in the morning 💀

Ya'll might wanna toss this thread into the Feedback channel instead of the Suggestion channel just to keep it up and going because it IS very relevant (for 1 month from now)🚨

Just a heads up😵

odd vector
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Literally more ppl would have spirit challenger if the drop had the pity marks to begin with even with only running 15-5 it'll still take to long with each challenge being open only once every 2 weeks NA os to top heavy and there is zero reason to help ppl outside of your static as of course the rewards for helping others are just like "optional content" wasn't worth it either

burnt parcel
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NA is actually pretty cooked no matter what way you look at it a lot of our supports can’t even enter serp imagine 20m cp dungeon gn ☠️ I dunno what’s gonna happen now

spice topaz
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Even 18m is cooked, just put it at like 15m, if not just literally make it serp cp

lusty surge
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So I would like to point out some things people really overlook regarding this subject.

Challenge raids were completely optional content which they then turned into a mandatory option essentially

Accounting for the future. they don't seem to understand or plan for the future which is mandatory in game creation. Lets say we get a total of 100 20m players and everything is okayi sh for a while.
what about newer players? How the hell are they supposed to catch up with the CP jumps like this and Exascale being what it is. Story mode raids wont matter at all when the normal dungeons AFTER the raids are 15-18m alone. and the massive CP gap between raids and normal dungeons later on just mean more crappy dungeons.

You cant even give the gear/weapon at +11 in phoru for us to do this. we knew we would eventually reach 20m CP for dungeons/raids but this is way too soon. this is the equivalent of the Harco situation again.

They need a massive CP rebalancing effort immediately.

safe fiber
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welp it was a nice ride guys. We can wait for Elsword closure now

atomic laurel
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When the game is unironically pushing you to get +12 and SC

jovial walrus
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I can only reach 17m…

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I can probably make it as a +11 after I full r21 exa 💀

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But definitely not achievable without spirit challenged

swift elk
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spirit challenger the goat

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2-3m cp for free

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go for it

vast flume
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Optional content they said 😔

tough leaf
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Shout out to the majority of the playerbase that's still stuck around Pruinaum and can't really participate in anything past Tirnog, y'all the real ones ✊ 😔

kindred moon
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I'm already suffering trying to get enough cp to enter serpentium, now 20m for new raid d3 is 💀
Worse that it needs to be d3+ to drop accs

lusty surge
# vast flume Optional content they said 😔

its pretty stupid. challenge was advertised as a harder optional version of raids. just there to give more time for newer content.

but they kept nerfing it to a point where its now practically mandatory.

its not hard to balance raids but they are thinking everyone on the server has 700 ERP and 21 reforge. they balance expecting that you have bought every battle pass

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thats not how you properly balance.

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and they don't even release story mode with the normal modes

vast flume
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It really isn't, and it's frustrating that they only balance around that small population of players

slow whale
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@proud tundra here

proud tundra
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if the raid releases on na and needs 20m people are gonna riot

stray olive
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Chat I think NA is cooked chat

proud tundra
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on kr +12 is the norm

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and high erp

slow whale
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Kr already is mad

stray olive
proud tundra
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and they can probably barely enter

slow whale
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We are mad bcs majority of end game players cant do it

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Kr is mad bcs their avg player can't do it

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But we all mad

proud tundra
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imagine making content that no one can play

stray olive
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15m cp is doable

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If serp was out for longer hell I’d say 20m is doable

jovial walrus
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They’re scaling cp off of d4

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😭

stray olive
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But literally again steel drop rates are awful

lusty surge
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why do you assume IF. it is going to release at 20m. only chance we have is to help kr people rage before it gets here

jovial walrus
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They forgot d4 is also considered optional content

stray olive
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We can’t rush exa because there’s literally not enough steel in the market

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It’s way too soon for 20m cp gate

sand sluice
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bring it down to 15m 👍

lusty surge
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it would have just been better to increase the Harc slots at this point

stray olive
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?

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Just literally lower cp req lol

vast flume
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Yes pls

lusty surge
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no in place of new raid it would have been better to postpone and give us more Harc slots

vast flume
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Cp req is absurd since serp

lusty surge
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like last time lol

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but yes lower CP reqs is needed

vast dew
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Lower cp reqs and let ppl take like 2hrs to clear if they want to

If +12 really is the norm in kr then I'm not surprised though
+12 and power crept IBs has destroyed cp expectations

lusty surge
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I vote TO START(have to be clear with that) to remove CP gain from everything but [Wep+armor, enhancement, stages+mystic+reforge, ERP, Sockets, collection, char passives]

To start. then they can rebalance things properly

gentle bronze
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You missing the point that they have IB slot now, and it's kinda expected to have Exa atleast to enter in

lusty surge
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do you understand what you are even saying?

"Oh you only need 3 IB sets with good set effects to enter"

we aren't bothered by DPS classes, we are bothered by support not being able to enter

gentle bronze
pine frigate
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As a support main, I barely reach 15mil cp if I inflate, unless their intention is for you to have spirit challenger as a support it's kind of cooked

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Also, for most supports exascale is non-functional and will just bring cp down from tenebrous so it's more doomed

stray olive
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Chat I hit 20m clearly it isn’t an issue

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Just have new meta IB +12 spirit challenger and exascale

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And all dmg

pine frigate
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LOL

stray olive
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Don’t see the issue 🔥
-devs

pine frigate
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That's probably the KR average tbh

stray olive
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Nah kr is mad too lol

pine frigate
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O that's cooked

stray olive
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Gg things get upvoted when ppl who are notable in the (na) community speak up

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Except no one speaks up cuz we feel like our feedback isn’t taken into account

vast flume
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Didn't they cry for higher entry req to weed out the plebs back in Ran days

stray olive
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Idk but 20m is straight up impossible for a lot of support players

proud tundra
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"a lot" you mean all

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we are doomed

lusty surge
white hull
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hey man im one of the 5!!

stray olive
white hull
stray olive
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Dude I could literally like

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Buy a Costco share with how much I spent this last week