#NA is cooked
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we are collectively cooked
here we go again
surelly we can enter the raid w/o spending the right kidney
NA is cooked
NA is cooked
NA is cooked
NA is getting diddled by kog fr
😬
not enough to boost our supports 5m+ cp
🤣
NA is cooked
idc if u argue that this isnt content in our region
same argument is gonna happen when it releases in a month
we literally dont have the people to run this content
Reason: Mass emoji
🤣 🤣 🤣
😂
so we cant complain
when we cant run the content
so i still think this feedback should be sent to KR devs
so 🤣
shutting down thread for talking about KR content
surely they matter right! ^ - ^

real 
like no this conversation needs to happen now.
before we get the content.
bro
I’m gonna be put on OM
Reason: Mass emoji
like idc if this content isnt released in NA yet this convo needs to happen before it hits us
cuz like lol
at least with serp we were like "ok 13m is doable lol"
nah we know full well kogs response will be just
20????????????????????????
'just run d1 lol xDDDD'
"content isnt in NA yet so shut up"
basically
true
"its not in our jurisdication. in game patches are released by nexon and we have no involvment in it"
@quasi ivy what r we supposed to do now lol
yea
20m is just dumb
if u say “content isn’t in NA yet”
ill take 15m
18M is reasonable with
spirit challenger
this content comes out soon
…
18m is so much more reasonable but 15m is ideal lol
and that has 15m d4
17m is still doable with new ib slots
xdddd
20m is diabolical
yeah lol\
we cant even rush reforges
full r21 exa
sell ur kidney? I dont think it ll be enough fr
the drop rates are terrible?????
rushing reforges isnt even sustainable cuz i can buy out board and still not be full r21
lol
how many of na can even clear serp dailies
like
its so dumb
how we went from
5m ran raid
to 15m serp
to 20m new raid
xddd
but cp increase exponentially UwU
Reason: Mass emoji
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and its only been like half a year since serp too
yeah it hasnt been long enough
kal my goat
we basically literally went from 5m straight to 20m
i cant wait for like 3 people to enter new raid
wynn 5 people pls
WE CANT EVEN RUSH REFORGES WHICH IS MAJORITY OF OURCP
BECAUSE IF I BUY OUT BOARD
IM STILL NOT EVEN FULL R21
we are having glo OM and other 4 dps enter
the worst part is its clearly based on whatever they think the avg kr person's cp is
and no pola/adapt cap increase is diabolical too
and i dont even think the average kr person has 20m
we hella overcap adapt
they waiting the "ib slots" make up for cp inflation
like if ur gonna go and say avg cp is 20m in kr then the raid's d3 should be like 17m at best
(i doubt it does)
I m overcapped cdr and adapt and pola
like lol
🤝
u saw new raid acc too
xdddd
dude

this also all circles back to
IBs being most of the cp in the game outside of gear
but IB rotations only being 3 months each time
yea lol
so whatever IB they get that inflates them to high hell
we wont be seeing for 6 months
and oh boy new IB in kr which is prob gonna be powercreep again !!!!!!!!!
time to drop another $500 to pity
640 dollar on average pls
but the chances r so slim
back on this topic a bit
every raid the min cp req has been getting worse
like way worse
yeah
like literally rosso was what
400k -> 1.5m -> 5m -> 13m -> 20m
300k
🤣
but your avg dps was 2m+
its like
yeah lol
1.5m req for berthe but your dps was 5m+
somehow they think the cp rises at a rate faster than it actually does
5m req for ran but avg dps was 8m+
then we get to serp where avg dps can literally still need to inflate cp to get in
xddd
and with the min being 20m ur probably not dpsing until like 30

or to be more forgiving
25
like i need an explanation on why my ca
needs to inflate cp to get into serp raid
like its literally not even a 'you def need at least this much gear to contribute' anymore
its literally just
oh we want you to spend money to be able to run our content
13
ggs
if serp had more time to float before this raid released it would be fine, but serp hasnt been out long and the armor is rng on rng on rng on rng on rng on rng on rng that it just isnt feasible to get good enough gear for the average endgame player 💀
weighted btw
clearly if they want people to actually drop the wep they should move it to a d2 drop
and also the steel drops is so little
0.005% for 1% and IT CAN BE A BAD CIRCUIT TOO WOOO
they delayed exa, they didnt delay wep they overlapped cp req went crazy
but i also feel like this difficulty thing is a way for them to justify inflating cp like this
bc from monaterra to serp its a 2m jump
just to go from steel wall to city
0.0000000001% for replicator
and it can be wrong colour too!!!
yeah but like with how exa is
idk what replicator drop is but real
delaying us makes no sense
does kr have full replicator exa?
no
no
idt anyone on any server does

bc its just so unfeasible
like
if they want to delay exa/people having max exa
xdddd
why the hell is the raid 20m
to even get the rewards that would make it worth running
why is it being released this soon
bc for some reason they love a 2 year content cycle but clearly its not sustainable at this rate
forcing people to progress in unprecedent speed to catch up
atp i'd rather they release 2 chars a year vs us getting 2 raids
the 2 year content cycle died tene to exa
nah we were due for an armor set
I know
they just made it
they delayed
stupidly rng
weap was delayed half a year
but cp req considers there is still year diff
they should just make armor 2 years and wep 4 years atp
some chars are CP infalted
well if cp gonna be like this I agree
but uh
of they wanna inflate like this
since exascale might seem easier to grind better be ez to get CP
xddd
glo said 5
we have less than 15 people who can even enter
19m being min is nice and all and then you realize like most of the server cant even enter
wanna add dps cp for those raids too
we probably arent even gonna clear for like at least 4 months
if not more
4 is being nice

Like yeah smallest jump sure but, people were already well above the cp when other raids came out
Handful of ppl are 20m+
Very small handful
Not to mention we are supposed to get a second raid not too long after this new one 👍
no theyre just adding the last dungeon
if it isnt ill laugh
Watch it be 25mil
Hey guys kr is complaining so maybe we will get a change!
With 0 input from our server!!!
glo, sage and me try 3 clearing
the change being suck it up
i knew the moment SC was pity

I just need to change my erp
some more critical here and there
Crack open those Crit sockets chop chop
not like this thread wouldve made a diff tbh
we opened what 4 thread?
True!!!!
I dont believe any of em ll give fruit
the threads are literally just player vent channels atp
Yeah no updates so lol
Just “will be forwarded” but no actual input
They prob enjoy seeing players mald
true
they dont even tell if the person u reported got banend or not
jokes aside
something has to change
either things on na side has to be more accessible
or cp reqs and whatnot need to be toned down
its like literally impossible to keep up with endgame content nowadays without spending literal hundreds of dollars a month
progression is bound to item mall, prices are hella expensive, cp requirements are diabolical. they need to fix 1 by 1
reminder that the average price for ib pity
640 dollar
is over $500
400 ib
i love my money guzzling FREE TO PLAY game that isnt actually free to continue playing reasonably
its even more expensive for other countries if ur country puts conversion tax
jsut wanted to add
IB expansion is gonna be big
bro
its just a AsD AE
or AE BN angle
then
Dude I’m not worried about my cp
cuz 2 ibs of 5% cdr
I hit easily lol
makes it 10%
peter is leviathan atp
I’m literally not worried about my own cp
ik
I’m talking about the +11 support players lol
NA is cooked lol
dude
improve skill issue so yall can clear 15-6 and get SC
forming for craids is alr hard enough as it is
its not hard
Clear me then
ppl arent taken cuz skill issue
go form then
I alr have sc tho so 😂
i dont think
I m out
ppl arent taken cuz skill issue
me when people have lives that dont revolve around playing elsword
like if you look at
how?
Me when I had to leave pts cuz my schedule doesn’t line up 😂
KR does
but how INT or EU or JP or CN or TW
skill issue = I dont wanna drop 1-2 liver in this game
INT lol
have gear
bro said INT
tw literally has asd ring xddd
Have they even cleared cberthe
r we comparing to kr where they spend more and overall have more people
int cleared before na did iirc
Eu lol
eu lol
i too would have a +13 if the economy wasnt actual garbage
int has 40% bonus whales are having easy time in INT. avg f2p is just dying in INT
that has its avg playerbase
clearing cberthe
is a lot more geared on avg
than na
tbh na has the timezone problem, other servers don't suffer from that
we have 12h difference in NA server
Gg NA not actually being NA
ggs na more int than int
4am lol
me 2
Real
forming a cberthe clear pty is possible
It’s possible
we have lives outside of elsword, surprising isnt it
jus dont work
prob
we def have more than 30 competent players on this server
so why arent there more clears
its literally not just skill issue
theres more to it
- people who are shy to do it
- 8 people having free time same time
- people having enough gear to clear
Timezone and general elitism or people unwilling to run with new ppl or other reasons
Because my resources!!!!!!
can we get
As if resources are expensive lol
NA is cooked chain
challenge was meant to be "optional content" 
NA is cooked.
true
True
NA is cooked
fork over 600 usd
and tbh I dotn expect new player to do it perfectly in one go without fail in their first attempt even if they know mechs watched guides
Or do it for a whole year straight
👍
i need them ro figure out a way to make content that doesnt require cp to be how we measure things
true!
KoG: "Was" balances around it
24 rotations of 15-5
If you measure with cp don’t make it 20m??
what could possibly be the issue
true!
the problem with
min cp req nowadays
is like
why do i need
13m+ to enter serp
when im literally dpsing in there
at like 11m
xddd
Privileged class nerf cs
its not even just cs
min cp has always been a lie
I’m 18m and I’m doing the same dmg as a 10m cp mischief
like lol
Screw u
like its just dumb
5m to enter abyss but ur not dpsing toll 8
and funny how d4 isn't a 15% difficulty increase over d3, as the cp would suggest
I play ES
class diff
Tell that to my ES players after hitbox change
it used to be an even larger gap
rosso was like 2m
True!
entire platform d be broken with 300k cp dpses
Ran release u need to be like 9m+
i just need them
like literally 6.66x min cp req
look at the pattern tho, each weapon raid has a 3-4x cp increase each time
so in 2 years we'll have a 60m cp raid
no
to figure out a way to make content that doesnt revolve around making the min cp req the way it is or making cp the entry requirement
Issue is also serp hasn’t been out long enough lol
bc this is just not sustainable
ye, and we already are getting a x2 title medal 
minimum title unlocks
- gear reqs
like u need NF concerto and exa SoA to enter
lol
Please I don’t want to farm concerto.
farm it loser boy
they can put either of the req

be 20m cp or have these
rosso 300k entry ~2m min dps: 6.67x
berthe 1.5m entry ~5m min dps: 4x
ran 5m entry ~9m min dps: 1.8x
serp 13m entry ~11m min dps: 0.846x
new raid 20m entry 👍
Too busy rizzing up gyatts
i cant wait to be able to dps on a 15m cp setup
😂
like someone explain to me
I ll laugh so hard if 20m cp dps demolish the raid
Whatever I’m going to sleep
see u in ur dreams bb
If I see something like “this content isn’t out yet in NA pls stop yapping” I’m uninstalling and I’m not loading up for AE lol
I m not loading up for AE to being with
true
I consider factually dropping 100 but yeah no ty
cant wait for the "it isnt in na yet so stop talking ab it" bc lol
na they ll just delete post. I bet on that
kr is talking about that and they don't have it yet until tomorrow so 
They should stick with the old elsword, everyone is a dps and can use pt buff to each other
Dps gear give more cp than you try to build a full sup gear
they can either
- lower the cp requirement
- just implement gear requirements, like it used to be with the level gear prior to cp
ye but i can have an exa at 5m cp, and at 20m cp
oh what you mean is
as long as i have exa set equipped
i can enter
type of thing
pretty much, and could be nice if they can account for stats like reforge/enhance etc
and just give us a "bare minimum" and "recommended"
imagine their response "we are trying to stop bussing"
this aint lost ark
I think the update wont let you change your gear when in the dungeon
I know
coh ecs still exists
thats just the list for the set effects
they mean the ib set effects
not switching gear
Oh ok
Uh guys I think this thread is gonna get clapped in the morning 💀
Ya'll might wanna toss this thread into the Feedback channel instead of the Suggestion channel just to keep it up and going because it IS very relevant (for 1 month from now)🚨
Just a heads up😵
Literally more ppl would have spirit challenger if the drop had the pity marks to begin with even with only running 15-5 it'll still take to long with each challenge being open only once every 2 weeks NA os to top heavy and there is zero reason to help ppl outside of your static as of course the rewards for helping others are just like "optional content" wasn't worth it either
NA is actually pretty cooked no matter what way you look at it a lot of our supports can’t even enter serp imagine 20m cp dungeon gn ☠️ I dunno what’s gonna happen now
Even 18m is cooked, just put it at like 15m, if not just literally make it serp cp
So I would like to point out some things people really overlook regarding this subject.
Challenge raids were completely optional content which they then turned into a mandatory option essentially
Accounting for the future. they don't seem to understand or plan for the future which is mandatory in game creation. Lets say we get a total of 100 20m players and everything is okayi sh for a while.
what about newer players? How the hell are they supposed to catch up with the CP jumps like this and Exascale being what it is. Story mode raids wont matter at all when the normal dungeons AFTER the raids are 15-18m alone. and the massive CP gap between raids and normal dungeons later on just mean more crappy dungeons.
You cant even give the gear/weapon at +11 in phoru for us to do this. we knew we would eventually reach 20m CP for dungeons/raids but this is way too soon. this is the equivalent of the Harco situation again.
They need a massive CP rebalancing effort immediately.
welp it was a nice ride guys. We can wait for Elsword closure now
When the game is unironically pushing you to get +12 and SC
I can only reach 17m…
I can probably make it as a +11 after I full r21 exa 💀
But definitely not achievable without spirit challenged
Optional content they said 😔
Shout out to the majority of the playerbase that's still stuck around Pruinaum and can't really participate in anything past Tirnog, y'all the real ones ✊ 😔
I'm already suffering trying to get enough cp to enter serpentium, now 20m for new raid d3 is 💀
Worse that it needs to be d3+ to drop accs
its pretty stupid. challenge was advertised as a harder optional version of raids. just there to give more time for newer content.
but they kept nerfing it to a point where its now practically mandatory.
its not hard to balance raids but they are thinking everyone on the server has 700 ERP and 21 reforge. they balance expecting that you have bought every battle pass
thats not how you properly balance.
and they don't even release story mode with the normal modes
It really isn't, and it's frustrating that they only balance around that small population of players
@proud tundra here
if the raid releases on na and needs 20m people are gonna riot
Chat I think NA is cooked chat
Kr already is mad
Kr alr annoyed
and they can probably barely enter
We are mad bcs majority of end game players cant do it
Kr is mad bcs their avg player can't do it
But we all mad
imagine making content that no one can play
But literally again steel drop rates are awful
why do you assume IF. it is going to release at 20m. only chance we have is to help kr people rage before it gets here
They forgot d4 is also considered optional content
We can’t rush exa because there’s literally not enough steel in the market
It’s way too soon for 20m cp gate
bring it down to 15m 👍
it would have just been better to increase the Harc slots at this point
Yes pls
no in place of new raid it would have been better to postpone and give us more Harc slots
Cp req is absurd since serp
Exa users:
Lower cp reqs and let ppl take like 2hrs to clear if they want to
If +12 really is the norm in kr then I'm not surprised though
+12 and power crept IBs has destroyed cp expectations
I vote TO START(have to be clear with that) to remove CP gain from everything but [Wep+armor, enhancement, stages+mystic+reforge, ERP, Sockets, collection, char passives]
To start. then they can rebalance things properly
You missing the point that they have IB slot now, and it's kinda expected to have Exa atleast to enter in
do you understand what you are even saying?
"Oh you only need 3 IB sets with good set effects to enter"
we aren't bothered by DPS classes, we are bothered by support not being able to enter
They just gotta change formula on how Support gain CP. I can understand that it's hard to get CP. Yet, it's a logic game progression. You can't expect enter somewhere and skipping everything aside.
As a support main, I barely reach 15mil cp if I inflate, unless their intention is for you to have spirit challenger as a support it's kind of cooked
Also, for most supports exascale is non-functional and will just bring cp down from tenebrous so it's more doomed
Chat I hit 20m clearly it isn’t an issue
Just have new meta IB +12 spirit challenger and exascale
And all dmg
LOL
Don’t see the issue 🔥
-devs
That's probably the KR average tbh
Nah kr is mad too lol
O that's cooked
Gg things get upvoted when ppl who are notable in the (na) community speak up
Except no one speaks up cuz we feel like our feedback isn’t taken into account
Didn't they cry for higher entry req to weed out the plebs back in Ran days
Idk but 20m is straight up impossible for a lot of support players
wasn't that before the advanced party finder? now that we have PF its pretty easy to weed out
hey man im one of the 5!!
Where’s ur ring little boy
bro my friend's currency could buy a ps5 and several games with how much it costs to pity LMAO

say that again
