#Rose PVE Guide

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limpid sand
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yeah thats filler of all fillers

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I'm hoping the damage increases is enough to cope past how clunky she feels to pilot

kind plume
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Honestly? Best thing for TB would be making Flamethrower mod be usable on the ground

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Having to jump every time is annoying

limpid sand
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yeah idm the jump if we dont have to be the ones inputing it

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it also

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would not be that bad to have to jump if her action speed was better

limpid sand
limpid sand
kind plume
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sad to lose the defense reduction off lancer but

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we get a bigger one on eagle's radar and easier to proc

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can we get the casting speed on regular burst grenade pls?

limpid sand
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eagles is p much always up anyway iirc?

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i assume flamethrower on ground is jus gonna make the character jump without you having to press the jump?

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like mn's mc

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I hope so cause I would love if they didnt change the hitbox on the ground vs in the air

kind plume
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flamethrower could just be like shockwave maybe

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where no jump you just aim it downward

limpid sand
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Yeah i figured

kind plume
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if it has the jump ill be okay with that too

limpid sand
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aah thats true

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yeah im ok with forced jump

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I jus dont want them to

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change the direction of the hitbox

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wouldnt even be that bad if they did

kind plume
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i think it'd be perfectly fine if the hitbox was flipped if you do it on the ground

limpid sand
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cause it would surely jus end up either going upwards like bp or forwards like unmod

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flipped might be easier actually

kind plume
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i think you said it before that it would be a good alternative to using it in the air

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air use = downward flame
ground use = upward flame

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either way im giggling like a schoolgirl now cause im liking this

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man i need to convert my SOA back to a damage one

limpid sand
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LMAOOO

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yeah Im excited

runic loom
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We're so back

limpid sand
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WE'RE SO BACK

kind plume
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we're somewhat back!

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unnerf my bg range pls

limpid sand
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new burst grenade cancel time

jaunty raft
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anyone got info on how TB has been doing in general? i asked a random kr streamer and he said it wasnt good

kind plume
kind plume
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bossing is rough, but again, the new update gave her some buffs which will help her bossing

limpid sand
kind plume
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ok so she does a little hop for us

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im okay with this

limpid sand
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reaction time is good

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look at the damage LMAOOOOO

kind plume
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speaking of damage...

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mod bg looks to be better dps then

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might be worth using now in trans slot

limpid sand
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Yeah

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shes a 4 button player

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and we dont need to use lancer anymore cause it doesnt shred anymore

kind plume
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indeed

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plasma, qb, flamethrower, bg now

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maybe aimed strike/bbq mod if needed

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or extruder since it's faster

limpid sand
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will probably just depend on content

jaunty raft
jaunty raft
kind plume
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and for small ones will depend how small we talking

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you can get multipleexplosions off

jaunty raft
jaunty raft
kind plume
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doom right? i thought that was 21, and atma was 22

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also pls turn off pings when replying. it gets annoying after a while

jaunty raft
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limpid sand
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flamethrower in kr rn

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this is NA for the record

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limpid sand
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^

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also plasma shock only meets 19k max

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forgot to mention

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idr what average is

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and I dont think that chart accounts for def ignore either

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the 2nd cast in the above screenshot might've not accounted for damage

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idk

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didnt ask

sterile radish
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elwiki charts dont account for def ignore cuz it doesnt directly effect the %s so its more just remembering that it ignores

limpid sand
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yeah

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NA's is with no def ignore

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KR's is that value with 50% def ignore

jaunty raft
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def ignore doesnt enter the damage charts because the damage you deal will change from boss to boss

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50% def ignore will be more valuable on a boss with 99%def then one with 90%

limpid sand
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TBs alleged performance with the recent balance patch is put on pause until it comes to NA cause from watching streams and videos the rose discord has decided that KR doesn't know how to play her; they're literally mashing. They're mashing buttons. They're pressing aimed strike . They don't know what they're doing lol

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She's a four-5 button continuously looping rotater and yet they're pressing everything wrong

kind plume
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i wanna see some of this footage

limpid sand
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LMAOO

limpid sand
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supposed to be a doom stream i didnt look at it

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near the end

kind plume
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ill take al ook later then

limpid sand
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Eee

kind plume
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ok so i watched a bit of their 21-5 run and im like "uh...QB is not on cooldown...and its your fastest casting skill...and you still have plasma/flamethrower available...why we using aimed strike/bbq?"

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i dont really know doom that well but mentioning the QB thing had me remember a part where it was active and could be pressed, meaning the dragon could be hit...and yet....nothing was being pressed. not flamethrower or plasma

limpid sand
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yeah thats what i meant by theyre jus pressing buttons randomly

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LMAO

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definitely a sight

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makes me feel a lot better

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also, after balance patch, TB's high entropy highest clear time went down to 23mins

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pre balance patch she was at 40

kind plume
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see now THAT run i want to see

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....its not the same person is it?

limpid sand
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no clue

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its a video of someone showing the high entropy board in KR right now

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not a clear video

twilit token
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Does anyone here have experience with blue exa PO? I've been running it and the results have been kind of mixed.

limpid sand
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not personally sadly

twilit token
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rip ty though

kind plume
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did a recording of serp solo with tb yesterday. will do one after the update just for comparison

funnily enough i got a new faster time in hall without trying

limpid sand
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slay

kind plume
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will warn tho, my gameplay is butts

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the power of being an exp mule

limpid sand
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I'm in the middle of trying to stage so my dmg will b lower than usual

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but im still going TB next week

twilit token
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I was told s2 is enough to be back on par with s5 soa assuming your udw rolls aren't trash

kind plume
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mine sucks just cause im using S5 +11 VOS

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too lazy to switch mystics with my SOA cause EXP

twilit token
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That's kind of crazy lol

kind plume
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well her main purpose was to be an exp farmer

limpid sand
kind plume
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but im still clearing fine enough with the VOS

limpid sand
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and yeah im 16/20 I jus cant find time to form for FOUR MORE RUNS

kind plume
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idr the exact time but cleared hall in like 8:30 with it

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i did use fighters tho

twilit token
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I'd help if I wasn't working

kind plume
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note to self: upload video when im home before i forget

kind plume
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Hey look I didn't forget, but here's the Pre-balance with my butts TB

There's reason the name is there

limpid sand
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Slay

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I'm bed ridden today so I won't be able to get on for a while

jovial knot
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yo @limpid sand

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for Mn which traits do i look for?

limpid sand
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Oh goddamnit they changed some didn't they

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Uhhh stick with whatever is next to each skill in the guide but if anything changed let me know what the change is and which skill it's on and I'll jus tell u straight up

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Double trait should be EMP storm obv if you're in mirror del access

jovial knot
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but ill try to find this guide g, didnt knew you had one

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holy its a whole doc lmao, how i missed that for so long

jovial knot
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could work around with the doc goth, appreciate it!

limpid sand
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LMAOO no worries

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Thread is here if u have any follow up questions

limpid sand
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RAAAHH IM FINALLY AT MY COMPUTER

limpid sand
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I think I got everything but if theres anything I forgot to change/delete that u guys catch let me know

limpid sand
kind plume
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k serp raid run just recorded

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let me just check the video real quick. also, new fastest time for both dungeons

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TB buff is definitely noticeable

kind plume
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edit: redid it after...numerous attempts

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audio wasnt balanced the way i liked it then runs just felt meh

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but this last one? i like it...new fastest time even

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pre-changes: 8:12 for orchestra

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today post changes 1st attempt: 5:50
attempt after: 5:42
my final attempt? screenshot

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anyway vid is uploadin

kind plume
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Now in much higher quality too

limpid sand
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Slay

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Yeah I ran a couple things on her yesterday

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The buff is really nice

kind plume
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just did some exp farming with upgraded TB, feels good for Flamethrower to shred through enemies like nothing

limpid sand
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Yeah def

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I did some exp on her too

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She's good

heady karma
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If i put radial flames on gigantic does it miss stuffs in the middle?

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Or it reaches better

twilit token
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If the goal is clearing maybe better, but in terms of damage, you do not want gigantic

limpid sand
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^ thank u

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If I recall correctly gigantic shifts the entire hotbox abnormally

twilit token
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Gigantic lol

heady karma
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So it just misses everything uh

wind ibexBOT
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alesisz has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

heady karma
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Her traits are like mp reduction mostly so bad

twilit token
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sorta yeah, the only skill worth double traiting is mod mecha drop

heady karma
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Please give rose paramedic so we can heal and maybe delete minerva if you dont want to add a 5th path

limpid sand
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delete minerva is crazy

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we arent deleting anybody

heady karma
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But robot waifu

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I mean Cyborg

twilit token
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Is that from dfo?

limpid sand
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Yeah it's her 5th path

twilit token
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Ohhh cool

twilit token
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I mean back in the day, rose had 4 paths before 4th paths were a concept, so maybe we can get a fifth path lol

limpid sand
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Replying to original post BC I realized how difficult it is to get back to the top of this chat on mobile . LMAO on PC it's right there

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3 years worth of messages

heady karma
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So uh whats the actual difference between mod and unmod mecha drop? What do i use on boss?

twilit token
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Mod is bossing

heady karma
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Also is PO the best clearer (by the best i mean the easiest and low effort)? I am currently focusing on lvlling and i just want to walk in press a few skills and walk out

twilit token
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I think it would be either tb or mn, but I would defer to the others on that

open copper
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pick PO if you like robots goes kaboom

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just like me

limpid sand
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๐Ÿ”ฅ

heady karma
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So i have tried all 4 extensively and i find PO and TB boring. Between the other 2 who is more rewarding to master and ||whale on||

twilit token
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Dps wise, it would be MN atm

heady karma
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If CE can summon Ferdinand with bravery skill why do we have to summon Volt MX with Hyperactive?

twilit token
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Is that on recall? Iirc it's not a full summon of ferdinand

limpid sand
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I dont remember it being a permanent summon for the bravery skill but ik what ur talking ab

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well, not perma but

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I thoght it was like 10secs at most

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and hyperactive ferb is still probably 60

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been a long time since I played her

astral sky
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Ferdinand is summoned by Riseon Pride to perform an attack, but doesn't stay on the field after that ๐Ÿ‘

twilit token
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If it makes you feel better volt gets summoned for an attack in radial flame animation lol

limpid sand
limpid sand
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oh I forgot i sent that

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LMAO