#pvp
kindred frost
thorn haven
piercing is mostly good in 2s because it splashes
i would suggest stacking blanket or scratch id for 1s
heavy spear
SCRATCH ID IT IS
oblique sundial
amorphous does something like 4k if you position it right
piercing ego is good because it splashes and has goopd refund
thorn haven
blanket is better because of the resource refund
but spamming scratch id can be nice
noble pelican
Cosplaying CA would be wild
heavy spear
well now there's an aes and oz in queue
kindred frost
Cosplaying CA would be wild
It would beee
noble pelican
well now there's an aes and oz in queue
RIP
heavy spear
yeah im actually doing better playing around scratch id than blanket
fiery lionBOT
solitudefreak_ has been warned
heavy spear
LOL what's the threshold for that
fiery lionBOT
solitudefreak_ has been warned
abstract yacht
y she blushin'-
abstract yacht
she's barefeet
kindred frost
_she's barefeet_
wait thats her feat?!
twin pawn
yes thats her feet
mental rose
psa do not use keyboards with a steep typing angle and larj height 2 play elsord ๐
empty ore
The angle would give me carpel tunnel
mystic elbow
Now y would u try that u silly duck
mental rose
The angle would give me carpel tunnel
also makes it ridiculously difficult 2 press side directions b4 up directions
annoying how many of these keyboard chassis are like 10ft high and 9999 incline
sinful anvil
annoying how many of these keyboard chassis are like 10ft high and 9999 incline
mayb cuz of battery...
oblique sundial
dem lu's neutral be like <:wormface:663018645466775552><:wormbody:66301879830315...
ye dem probably has the best of them
air camping, zx, rise up, >>xz platform poke, and the sa stomp thing with a lingering hitbox are all kinda just nice
inno just cosplays as aisha and clocks with good movement, the other two mash super armors and pray
sinful anvil
is anyone able to add players to their blocklsit or is there something wrong with it?
sinful anvil
like is it just n ot possible 2 block ppl..
I like how
i like how rearou's alt is 1 of the 1st 4 ppl i ever blocked
LOL
"Rezar"...
had never been cursed out like that in an online vdo game b4 in my life, N DI IDNT EVEN DO ANYTHING I JUST ENTERED HIS SPAR ROOM
n i had no idea it was rearou, until..
wait n o shot he unlisted
dthe vidd
LOOOL
he uploaded a Reckless Fist combo video
and IGN was Rezar I was like th eres no shot..
mna
old market pov ๐
@stable nymph Sibyla on his friend list ๐
curious...
stable nymph
i taught jenny how 2 play cbs o_O
o wait not that match because they lose
but LMAO he goes nearly a full minute without even attempting 2 hit anyone
cyan quail
Video unavailable
stable nymph
works on utube i assuem
cyan quail
Nvm just not on disc preview
cyan quail
but LMAO he goes nearly a full minute without even attempting 2 hit anyone
Ya best way to play CS is to not play her
Unironically
stable nymph
i literally invented afk offscreen wait for bh to 1v2 - _-
cyan quail
Her neutral is good and all but what's even better is not playing neutral at all
We start the game w special actives
stable nymph
cant feed if u never hit ppl :/
cyan quail
Even when you're not interacting
Ya
Well you have to get core back up so you do need to interact eventually
Otherwise no taser saves or kugel crowdcontrol
fiery lionBOT
noobsux has been warned
stable nymph
homing mebs look obnoxious
cyan quail
Its slow but tracks for a while
stable nymph
if double char was still allowed cbs+cn wud b pretty funny with
1 character forcing stoic
cyan quail
What sucks is it puts half of the KD limit immediately
cyan quail
A ton of it yeah
Idr if it made people insta KD if it proccd double
But you can definitely feel it
cyan quail
and the other 1 just killing ppl for entering it
Yeah the only thing they'd be lacking is some neutral ๐ญ
stable nymph
im not sure if sariel is even feedy if she just plays around doubl atk passive
cyan quail
It's a lot more impractical than you'd think
Same goes for just clocking MP forever in 1s
In theory she should be able to pull it off but in reality you're always going to encounter some variable making u unable to do so
fiery lionBOT
shennae has been warned
stable nymph
wat stops u from rawdogging neutral so u can always have ecs ready 4 double atk passive
cyan quail
Your teammate
You're letting them 1v2 for the first 20 seconds
After that you should be able to cycle it more comfortably
But you're always going to want to use Taser with an ECS mode
stable nymph
tbh i think a lot of ppl want to 1v2 for first 20s regardles of whether they win or lose interactions LOL
cyan quail
Which already puts the uptime down
I'm telling u from experience
They'll get raw dogged after their esc is down
I've had many ppl actually die vs some redhead +1 before I could get online
In an ideal situation your partner would just run with you
Which was what we did in tourney
But there's no way anyone's 1v2ing some literal match start neutral
Maybe CA
But that's assuming the opponents aren't playing some other God tiers
Even she wouldn't be able to 1v2 some GS Oz match start
stable nymph
idk from what i've been seeing, even if u lose and die 4 it, getting 1v2d is pretty comfy in setting up a winning gamestate
assuming ur class can use the resources ig
cyan quail
Your partner would have to 1. Be a nukebot and 2. this is assuming they get any MP out of tanking
stable nymph
ok but who isnt a nukebot in 2024 LOL
cyan quail
And vs some IM or KE they'd die before they even get to 150 mp...
There's a lot of high tier characters that aren't necessarily nukebots
But rather take in a lot of utility
Like Oz or PR
Even CU isn't a nukebot unless they enter stoic
stable nymph
dont oz and pr both have capability to randomly 50% u ez off a 200mp that basically refunds itself on hit
cyan quail
Like ur laying out the theory which I agree, it's the most ideal scenario and is what I'd expect at least from tourney play
But it's just incredibly impractical in actual random Q
cyan quail
dont oz and pr both have capability to randomly 50% u ez off a 200mp that basica...
You'd have to be in SA
For both of them
stable nymph
i thought ruin was terrifying now
cyan quail
You can easily break before it does any considerable amount of damage
You can break it
And that's the thing, a lot of chars have multihits on their skills if they're not actual onetappers
Which u can break
stable nymph
but ya ig if is random q environment where u will often get partner that is just liability u cant rly play "proper" 2s
cyan quail
Tourney play is a lot more controllable so you can def play the way you described
Pt sure I played that exact way last 2s
stable nymph
i think buttons that r ez to land and can force breaks while still doing lots + giving nice chunk of mp back
while not necessarily being pure nukes
cyan quail
On call keeping track of escape skills, shatter timings n whatnot
That's where she really shines, when you actually have a teammate who can play around your downtimes and can 1v2 once you've already set them up
stable nymph
r like good enough if not better than conditional proper 1taps...
stable nymph
o ya i think i heard some1 mention wall about photon tracker but im not sure why wall wud make a difference
cyan quail
The way photon tracker works is that it forms orbs along the path of ur char
The actual skill itself does negligible damage
I think 1k?%
But the orbs r what make the most of it's damage
If you're against a wall it'll keep forming those orbs in place
Instead of being spread into 4 of which only 2 ever hit anyone outside of walls
It's also why it feeds a lot of MP
Since they're taking in all hits from multiple orbs
Who cares tho the damage is absurd enough to 100-0 someone without trans slot or stacking it
cyan quail
I think 1k?%
1.8k%
Photon Tracker goes from doing 4.6k regularly to 9.2k
Against walls
Literally doubling the damage
cyan quail
Instead of being spread into 4 of which only 2 ever hit anyone outside of walls
Elwiki has the calc wrong since they assume 3 of those orbs hit, but in reality only 2 do
cyan quail
Or 3d curves...
stable nymph
oo
cyan quail
I can't wait until they nerf particle Ray, CS is more than good enough of a character without it
stable nymph
i remember holding mb near a wall thinking i was in 4 some hsit and sure enough the cbs just dumped their mp in2 yolo tracker
cyan quail
You can clock, escape or break it at some point
But you're still taking considerable amounts of dmg
stable nymph
knowing it's not that scary midscreen unless u stak is a huge relief
wel ig it still is pretty scary but not just instant death
cyan quail
Yeah
Shes definitely at least above average without Particle Ray just because of the rest of her kit
stable nymph
aircastable everything is too gross
cyan quail
Yeah
Tho idt it's egregious enough to completely gut her once again if they just bop particle
stable nymph
i want 2 c some CL 4/4 cbs
she doesnt need the mp from wm or the dmg from traditional dmg setup...
but rng blow ppls brains out 4 tanking...
stable nymph
do cl procs give the owner mp at all
cyan quail
Idts
stable nymph
mp goggles seems so pointless on cbs
if uve hit some1 recently they have infinite mp wow
cyan quail
Ideally your partner would be telling u in VC
stable nymph
still going 2 kugel their face or fusion taser them from next state ; \
cyan quail
Yeee
stable nymph
i feel like mp information is only useful if it changes how u play but the eves r so degenerate they dont rly care
cyan quail
I remember playing CA being last
stable nymph
maybe lets u "play around" ppls mp but when the most effective way of playing around ppls mp is to just sit on them so they cant use it is like
cyan quail
Having 0 MP and was set playing someone with 150 MP
stable nymph
ok back 2 the usual degen stuff
CA having giant lingering meb and slightly less giant lingering meb as normal is
kinda cancer
cyan quail
The fact that they have to break the last life CA because she's chipping ppl down w commands and has access to best HA in the game
And lingering strength
Is wild to me
cyan quail
CEs also doesn't care about MP that much
Mapwide suction with power stun that also splashes
stable nymph
ya im guessing ces is going 2 oberon u 24/7 no matter wat unless u have proper stoic
cyan quail
Easy setup for ur teammate too
Almost guaranteed 100-0 if it splashes
And if it doesn't she can just White Box right after
stable nymph
i didnt realize hypers were stil good but ig it makes sense if is some
uncontestable nonsense
can u clock or escape or anything
cyan quail
Only some HAs are still relevant
Nope
That's the best part
You can't clock or escape powerstuns or suction
stable nymph
is it the helo world first HA or the second 1
cyan quail
She has both!
Hello World
The second one also splashes and powerstuns but you can escape before it ends
stable nymph
i assume ca can also just top 10 most brutal anime isis executions some1 for entering superarmor
i cant actually easily test if white box is + frames bc i cant not hit with it LOL
but i assume if angelina can be sped enuf enough to be even then u just kill ppl for entering armor
cyan quail
I love angelina
You can easily ledge trap people with it
Also nice CC, doesn't seem like anyone's bringing it tho
๐
sinful anvil
what skills i take for DA dungeon ez
stable nymph
wats da
o is that the edgelord luciel
i think u just flick shot ur way thru ez dungeons until u can go sicko mode
sinful anvil
cchong
sinful anvil
shine chase broken
wddf LOL
wait we actually have wally scientist cut scene
i skippd it on acc
LOL
where climbs in2 robot
but then y does dimension link blader come outi of roboi..
sinful anvil
i 3 bead but no morb..
sinful anvil
ok they gigacucked
crowrider
LOL
like not just hp but his AI
he dont maul u anymore...
nah ya i have fdull fx
weird
my portrait transformd tho
DA's dj. xzx
sound fx made me turn around i thought someone sneezed irl
sinful anvil
whgat is
this double jump
hello
LOL
hold
on....
yo
how
is feather crest
literally airelinna but better
what the brain
all speed increase
20% m/j 15% aspd
both multipiclative
they nerfed those same values on linna bc apparently it was too OD
and now htye r literally slapped onto feather crest
same duration too LOL
15 second cool down = linna's original CD, 15 sec duration.......
o and it ddoes dmg
AN a masochist char..
stable nymph
if ur talking about old linna is probably bc was back when aspd affected hitstun
stable nymph
idk if anyone finds feather crest particularly egregious in pvp
sinful anvil
stable nymph
also jesus christ why does ca have a boom in red screen
sinful anvil
idk if anyone finds feather crest particularly egregious in pvp
the crank up airelinna as well
since no 1 find egregious
๐
stable nymph
where wud they even crank up aire
sinful anvil
turn that N in2 an M
make cooldown
match the duraiton
duration
bonus point give it dmg + make it air castble
๐
stable nymph
like if ur comparing the 2 buttons in pvp
feather crest is like trolling tier
and linna is like 1 small buff away from getting nerfed out of existence
cyan quail
Airelinna is troll as well
stable nymph
u might give tons of weight 2 speed section but only thing any1 else is looking at is how linna is cheap team mp heal
atm it's still not infinite resource cycling
cyan quail
It's not like AN is going positive off it nor does she have particularly high MP gain, it's mostly her skills refund that lets her retain MP
Also the fact she has to be next to her partner and it's a timestop is super troll
I've seen Mish get caught w someone or mess up w their timestop
Just bc he ran up airelinnad his teammate
sinful anvil
u might give tons of weight 2 speed section but only thing any1 else is looking ...
im putting the 2 skills side by side and wondering y 1 is giga cucked compared 2 the other hwen they basically do the same thing
its rare
stable nymph
bc one costs half as much as the other and gives an atk buff and heals mp???
sinful anvil
to see attack speed buffs that arent just normalized these days at least from what ive seen
cyan quail
They're just both bad ๐
sinful anvil
50mp buff
diff8
diff**
and dw da got the hp and mp on tap in another skill 2
๐
cyan quail
DA heals passively every other skill
He doesn't need to bring the healing skill
That's a whole demon
stable nymph
i think mp healing in general is like some srs sketchy bsns because if they are viable/meta with only 1 mp healer on team then things suddenly go giga bonkers once u have both members on team with mp healing able 2 jak each other off...
cyan quail
Also if we are talking about net cost/value, then obviously the one costing half as much will be better
I feel like mp healing is nice on the side
But I've played with RaS and DeM
Double healing is so incredibly underwhelming
sinful anvil
Also if we are talking about net cost/value, then obviously the one costing half...
linna mp regen makesu p 4 the fact it DOESNT HAVE A HIT
2 REFUND OFF OF
i get about same mp back form using feather
on 1 target
i can hit 2
fiery lionBOT
shennae has been warned
stable nymph
idk i feel liek a double brian team where they just sit in blanket which feeds blanket sounds mad toxic until they get splashed 2 death
cyan quail
People will just tank and nuke em eventually and they don't really do much
Ya that's why I said it's nice on the side
As in through WM and Rosso
I feel like 1 healer is more than enough
Bc u need the other person to actually do something with the MP
sinful anvil
designarted healer in elsoed 
cyan quail
I've played with 1k MP cheese RaS, +12 SoA abysstics RaS
I've played w Brian
It's all so incredibly mid LOL
There can't b more than one healer
But WM + Rosso will always be welcome
There can never b enough of those
stable nymph
like if the issue is just that they have infinite mp but not enough dmg to make it threatening, i feel like it is a really ez problem 2 fix...
oblique sundial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-p2XB7hxOY
Duuuuuude I miss the old market
stable nymph
if ur dealing with double luciel covering map in blankets idk wat ur supposed 2 do
cyan quail
U know how easy it is to tank to 400 MP, break to 300 MP and have two nukes up
oblique sundial
Afking overnight was probably terrible for my electric bill but like it was such a vibe
cyan quail
Even if blankets up there's always clock/obten
There's only so much you can do to delay the unavoidable
Double healer might b able to dominate early/mid game in a match
But once opponents have 2 kills on u and escapes r up
It's over
oblique sundial
Just spend 15k on a +14 and onetap people with cata 5head play elsword is solved
stable nymph
idk by being healer id imagine ur not completely boned 2 nuke unless it is a full 1tap
cyan quail
There r skills you can't break unless you've already been pre breaking in advance
There's also Shattered Earth
Awakening beads which will 1000% be up all the time
Even if u put up ress people get refunded off of it
And at that point ur death is on their cd
Obviously you can circumvent/play around many of those issues
But it's so incredibly uphill
I'd rather take any DMG dealer instead
It's just miserable to play unless u both know what ur doing, and the payback isn't even that big to the point where you'd feel comfortable enough in the endgame
I've had people save their escape skill after dying 2x even while being MP efficient and only pressing our stacked skills on them
And then we just died
I'd rather have a KE that'll always be a threat w commands and deal 400k with Vslash for the lolz, a CaT that can and will onetap with an active if u let her stack debuffs
Or anything w a damage button
I'd rather take PR that can save and will do damage if they don't break her... bc at least she'd be forcing breaks
Tl;Dr double healer is miserable for everyone in the match
sinful anvil
15% aspd is a freed shado buff BTW
oblique sundial
Cat 2s are backshots and praying you don't screw something up with one of your 196 delays
shell surge
U jsut need a nuke
stable nymph
i feel like being tanked is like kinda exager8d bc is not like those buttons r abnormally weak, luciel can cash out for like probably 200k blanket in2 200k piercing ego if he needs 2..
cyan quail
200k is like probably splashed, which is what sets DeM apart from the other healers, that and blanket lingering for an absurd amount of time
But even then he does eventually KD and is forced to break once people have enough MP
Like the theorycrafting is cute and all but I've been in those matches
First person experience
It's particularly rough when they have iron body or good neutral, because then double healer can't get the early game snowball they need
mystic elbow
I think so
cyan quail
It's better for everyone's mental and more efficient to just split the healers up instead
mystic elbow
cyan quail
is this ultra wide view?
Also yeah that's UW
mystic elbow
Kinda looks like my game
Can we buff Surya heal to not kd or nerf everyone elses to kd
cyan quail
Not all healers are built the same
mystic elbow
Thats ghetto shes the only 1
sinful anvil
healer in elsoed is a myth
cyan quail
Sorry she's not DeM....
sinful anvil
just press dmg
kindred frost
I feel like
I need tp upgrade my pc
I feel ike that may be why im struggling so much
mystic elbow
kindred frost
cause my inputs dont work, my game be kinda jumpy
cyan quail
I feel ike that may be why im struggling so much
From what I recall, you're able to catch just fine on CA, it's mostly your confirms and crowdcontrol that could be worked upon
Unless ur talking about CS
In which case we already established best way to play CS is to not play her
kindred frost
idk its like... sometimes my buttons dont work. Like when I land and try to awaken, nothing happens
mystic elbow
That sounds like a keyboard thing
kindred frost
my stuff is kinda outdated im using a premade pc I got 2018 with some minor changes like a 1660 ti
mystic elbow
Unless your pc is just overall running awfully
cyan quail
Probably keyboard , unless your game itself is lagging
kindred frost
my game also jumps and lags too
mystic elbow
Other games too?
cyan quail
Do you have the game on ur SSD?
kindred frost
Other games too?
hmm..I dont think I lag on ffxiv14
mystic elbow
Time to become hottub streamer or professional egirl
cyan quail
That'll probably make it better
mystic elbow
(Im joking)
kindred frost
Time to become hottub streamer or professional egirl
Well I alreadly have onl-...nvm
mystic elbow
kindred frost
haha jk too lmao! ๐
mystic elbow
Me when i lie
cyan quail
For legal reasons that's a joke
But if the SSD thing doesn't work then probably the keyboard
If none of those work then it's time to upgrade
kindred frost
what are some good keyboards for eve stepping?
kindred frost
okay. I do infact have a bad one
cyan quail
You can make any keyboard be good for Eve stepping
mystic elbow
The mouse is cool
kindred frost
I dont got it. rabbit chewed on it twice
cyan quail
Looks bad enough
Ideally u want a mechanical keyboard and force it to ghost the up and down arrows
kindred frost
it was extra bad cause on that day I gave ger some old wires ot chew on AND SHE STILL WENT AFTER MY PC
kindred frost
Ideally u want a mechanical keyboard and force it to ghost the up and down arrow...
it can definately do that
mystic elbow
I swear all pets
Even toddlers
Have the same logic
They dont want it if u give it to them
kindred frost
I wanna hug my rabbit more but she sheds like crazy
cyan quail
Ya he starts scratching my leg and giving a look
kindred frost
Im redownloading elsword i hope it helps
cyan quail
That sounds annoying
Whenever my legs get numb I just put mine on my bed
N he stays there
Tugged in and all
mystic elbow
Its mostly funny cuz she rly just doesnt give up
N she never does it when im doing smth else
cyan quail
That's adorable
But yeah same, if mine is sleeping and sees me get up to get on my pc he tries to get on my lap
Doesn't move when I go to the bathroom or go downstairs for a snack tho
mystic elbow
Doesn't move when I go to the bathroom or go downstairs for a snack tho
I think my dog has crazy anxiety she has to know where my mom n I are at all times
If we go to the bathroom she wants to come with
Doesnt even go into the bathroom just sits outside the door
Full view is just another full screen no?
cyan quail
I see, mines just clingy
If they start crying or acting desperately then it might just b anxiety
Yeah it's another fullscren
mystic elbow
She does when weโre at our grandmas house
At home she just follows
If weโre gone too long then she starts whining
cyan quail
If weโre gone too long then she starts whining
It b like that...
I read somewhere that dogs have become a lot more attached after COVID
kindred frost
I hate RV and his stupid free catch escape skill
cyan quail
Since they got used to people always being around
kindred frost
I gont think mine is an ultra wide
mystic elbow
Yea it seems like that cuz she was never that clingy
She became even more so after moving
mystic elbow
I gont think mine is an ultra wide
Ultrawide is 21:9 resolution usually 2560 x 1080 or 3440 x 1080
Yours is the standard 1920 x 1080
Which is 16:9 (normal)
cyan quail
Yea it seems like that cuz she was never that clingy
Yeah that explains it
UWs are more expensive
I got mine since it made studying and working a whole lot easier
With Elsword and other games having increased view as a bonus
cyan quail
Think I paid $200 or 300 extra when I was going to buy a regular 16:9
Just to get an UW instead
cyan quail
I think it was $300 for mine
Dam what a steal
mystic elbow
Ye lemme double check
Yeh $328
I might see if I can sell this laptop
Its.. so bad
hollow hound
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warm hornet
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warm hornet
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mystic elbow
warm hornet
I rather have the light instead of screen flashes.
hollow hound
hollow hound
sinful anvil
LOOK AT THAT
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
sinful anvil
Y R THEY ALL SO TALL
THICC AYEF KEYBOARD HEIGHT THATS WT IM TALKN ABOUT
**
how uplay on that...
sinful anvil
pov: elulu press photon flare and it flash bang u irl. . ..
warm hornet
Am I in a different dimension?
have no fear, i'm just trying CA for one week.
and playing with a strength build
hollow hound
I gotta prepare for the pvp stream with CA then. ๐ฟ
kindred frost
Over eating is sinful
mystic elbow
Huh
kindred frost
Idk
sinful anvil
You press down the keys
the kb itself is so high off the desk tho
does it have a steep angle?
and do u use a wrist rest
bough ta kb like tha tand cud not play els, it turns out that was the actually the cause of the "input buffer" issue i was having LOL
the slant on the kb was jus t str8 up too steep
made it ridiculously difficult to press < > before ^
cyan quail
It's a mechanical kb w red switches
cyan quail
does it have a steep angle?
Also not really, I just use it as is
sinful anvil
It's a mechanical kb w red switches
what kb is it?
sinful anvil
i wish i had stocked up
on a life-time supply of fighter rangz
i had a plan 2 do that at 1 point ngl
LOL
btw dodes any1 kno what the master of pranks synergy does?
twin pawn
btw dodes any1 kno what the master of pranks synergy does?
your base sorry voiceline becomes autotuned
thats all it does
doesn't do anything else
cyan quail
what kb is it?
sinful anvil
your base sorry voiceline becomes autotuned
thx
sinful anvil
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-RGB-Mechanical-Keyboard-Construction/dp/B01...
ohh nvm
btw does any1 kno what ara 4th path
ez mode pve skills r
LOL
twin pawn
Phoenix Wings Iceberg secret art one wishing star Glacial Breath Howling Fox
uhh im not on so i cant get my skill bar but the one in the guides should be fine
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HcOcIi8JmAsq0HLt9rtZtg9t3ODYvzsEPtDCFhKafFY/edit?usp=sharing
Iceberg and Phoenix Wings are a must bc iceberg handles clearing wings heals
first secret art is for damage
sinful anvil
wait fox shadow is actually a hella kool skill
hello
LOL
whichever dev did thatr skill put him on more chars bro
twin pawn
the teleporting is good but incovenient if youre not a char who can make use of it
sinful anvil
๐
twin pawn
and also sees no play bc modded is a cleanse
which is more important than the tping (and tping is only good for like. 5 characters)
teleporting also doesnt work if theyre pressing skills
i do use it to bully people though
sinful anvil
teleporting also doesnt work if theyre pressing skills
uh o
does it time out the duration
twin pawn
no it just doesnt work
twin pawn
they wont move
sinful anvil
i c
twin pawn
oh that
in pvp
lmao
ur standing still too long
also doesnt work on enemies
only allies
twin pawn
invisible
doesnt actually do anything
think of it as specter walk without super armor
sinful anvil
the tp is rly interesting
twin pawn
staying still that long in pvp will prob jsut get ur ally killed
or you if they delay it long enough
idr if shes in super armor or invincible while shes in the process of teleporting but i feel like its super armor
the real fraud skill is mod convert in pvp
free super armor on a lower cd than iron body
and technically free
sinful anvil
is phoenix stance 1 a normal?
i wudnt use tp in solos thats 4 sure
LOL
random q*
twin pawn
is phoenix stance 1 a normal?
z or zz to activate the art
like all ara first arts
well
for devi its >>z
but for all ara firsts they need a command
sinful anvil
OHH ok
twin pawn
all first arts begin with a command into a skill
x for Aps first
z or zzz for Devi first
^zx or >>zx for first on Shakti
z or zz for Surya first art
sinful anvil
dam idddndt evn kno thats ๐
well ik new about devi i didnt kno it was for all aras tho
twin pawn
ya all aras need a command for their first art
second they just need the skill
they increased chain speed so all of them do it pretty fast
but aps never uses her first art
bc its too slow and doesnt do anything
sinful anvil
ngl this not as free as chung...
twin pawn
well its chung pooks
i think the best ara for leveling is a toss up between surya or aps
bc aps gets kite
celest ore
the kb itself is so high off the desk tho
oh cmon now its not THAT bad
i used to play on sa keycaps
sinful anvil
suppression pummel says it power stuns
but
that just looks like a normal stun?
tool tip??
twin pawn
suppression pummel says it power stuns
no suppression power stuns anymore
im p sure its just stun and flatten
stable nymph
can never trust tooltips
oblique sundial
Tool tips lie more than kog lies about their income to whatever the parent company is
kindred frost
Just stop drinking sodas
I did, it really did too. I gave into the demon and had shrimp and half a filly cheese steak and a milkshake that day
Iโll just call that my cheat day ;>_>
empty ore
Wish I could eat shrimp again
kindred frost
Wish I could eat shrimp again
What happened?
empty ore
What happened?
Became allergic about 3 years ago. sucks balls
kindred frost
Darn, Iโm so sorry
shell surge
Man getting allergic randomly sounds crazy
kindred frost
It really do be happening like that too
heavy spear
about 5-6 years ago my body suddenly said SURPRISE YOU'RE LACTOSE INTOLERANT
i could consume all the cheese and ice cream i want up until that point, now i have to be real careful and use lactaids
stable nymph
dum soa wont be par with vos until stage 4 aka in 4week timegate and i cannot see myself still being around by time i get it to stage5
y is there still a timegate on yrs old stuffโฆ
ig it is nice that vos is still a really valid option at least
sinful anvil
dum soa wont be par with vos until stage 4 aka in 4week timegate and i cannot se...
lameโฆ
why cant you use yoir vos again, bc u xferred the mmystix?
sinful anvil
cant u just remystic it sincetheyre cheap ๐
stable nymph
but nah i can just pvp with the soa before it is done, is marginally weaker than vos so not worth rebuilding vos
i lose like maybe 2k atk and some mpr but not end of world
sinful anvil
idk u junk break was looking a lil ๐ค ๐ค 
stable nymph
but what if i stacked it O_O
sinful anvil
ur rghtโฆ
stable nymph
i do hear cbs is way better than cu in pveโฆ
twin pawn
i do hear cbs is way better than cu in pveโฆ
(she is)
CS arguably the best Eve in pve bc shes just broken
cyan quail
but nah i can just pvp with the soa before it is done, is marginally weaker than...
Yeah S3 is good enough, you lose out on a bit of atk and MPR but gain slightly more ASD
Exp VoS is leagues better than FoJ because you get more CP
Which means u can socket a ton more Exp Sockets
stable nymph
im rly sad about losing my identifies from vos bc i had like
doubl atklv lines with mspd
which was rly comfy
i assume running base 20% mspd would feel pretty bad
cyan quail
Yeah a lot of ppl r just forced to settle
Those things r so pricey
You might have to change ur stats around if the speed downgrade hurts u
stable nymph
ya feelsbad
not sure if i want to do another like 125/120 mspd/jspd split or
go for quickness stones
cyan quail
Quickness if ur balling like that I suppose...
W ur exp VoS it's time to get some levels like u never had before
heavy spear
it feels like pr gets everything in neutral
kindred frost
<:WokeWorry:587259561358917644>
Theyโve ascended
They do not gain exp exp gains them
stable nymph
i love wasting time but after a few 2x sessions tbh i think it is better spent than grinding for slightly bigger numbers in mmo LOL
i think id rather just erp pot to 350 and call it a job well done
twin pawn
the unfortunate part of elsword is how important erp ends up becoming
stable nymph
xcept when i frame it that way the gains per ed r like super marginal compared to other stuff
twin pawn
like by serpentium you're heavily incentivized to be at least 400-450
just bc of how inflation from erp works and how important inflation becomes bc of serp
stable nymph
i think by serpentium i hope id be heavily incentivized to stop playing LOL
twin pawn
unfortunately people do want to do raids and i hear serp raid is super fun
it's just not fun erp grinding bc of how quickly the number of runs to get a level skyrockets
especially bc we arent KR and cant go to a pc cafe for free 2x
oblique sundial
it feels like pr gets everything in neutral
because they do
clocking air camping sa huge burst mobility button panic buttons iframes etc
alright kids free class change do i go dem
celest ore
bruh my temp fs just ran out in the middle of a match
twin pawn
flop
celest ore
wonder if my opponent noticed tbh
celest ore
๐ญ
sinful anvil
giving elboy/raven access to double jump is sum the stupidest isht ever
celest ore
and ele
sinful anvil
it's actually so braindead
heavy spear
clocking air camping sa huge burst mobility button panic buttons iframes etc
why does she get panic buttons and iframes on top of everything else
empty ore
Nearly every 4th got a panic button, and tbh they're kinda lame
mystic elbow
๐จ โ
twin pawn
it depends on where im fighting them ngl
i'd rather fight a PR in 1s than a rev but I'd rather fight Rev in 2s bc I can ignore him and let someone else deal with him
PR is just more annoying bc shes a Rena. 
mystic elbow
PR is less annoying now cuz of nature nerf
sinful anvil
soโฆ
twin pawn
skissue
but i think PR is still just as annoying bc
curiosity sniping me from nowhere
die in a fire you stupid elf
mystic elbow
๐
sinful anvil
that curiosity
twin pawn
burn in hell
sinful anvil
is so necessary. it really feels like the devs balanced 4th paths around each other and only each othet
twin pawn
me when they balanced RV around being just as annoying as that evil thing (CA)
sinful anvil
when i look at my kit, i think how am i supposed to punish rev without breaking my fingers even if i know what heโs going to do
twin pawn
twin pawn
stun him and walk away and pray it breaks him out of it
mystic elbow
just wont happen unless he has a brain deficiency
sinful anvil
when i look at pr kit, its super obvious almost like they specifically gave her stuff to contest characters like rev
twin pawn
or pray you have a one shot available in the form of a skill he cannot act out of like aero strafe or something
sinful anvil
which is really annoying
twin pawn
id argue they barely really balanced them with regards to each other bc who was countering release DA
sinful anvil
rev only vulnerable during startups, completely safe during recovery, but he has so much range on his normals that his startup occurs like a half screen away
mystic elbow
friendly reminder that even old slap would not do anything against RV >>^XXX
sinful anvil
id argue they barely really balanced them with regards to each other bc who was ...
look at all their normals
they address each other
and only each otherโฆ
er
twin pawn
i think of classes like LA and I dunno if I entirely agree
twin pawn
twin pawn
her combos aren't really
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
twin pawn
that good
twin pawn
its the same with Surya her combos/commands are not that good
DeM has some decent commands but they also use the bread and butter luciel stuff
sinful anvil
their normals in neutral, not their combos
twin pawn
i mean yeah i still think i disagree
sinful anvil
like the way they play
twin pawn
bc SU has garbage neutral
mystic elbow
yea SU neutral is awful
sinful anvil
whats su
twin pawn
sinful anvil
i never seen that either
twin pawn
she cannot approach and she cannot actually "zone" you into anything
which is why ppl take convert
mystic elbow
she only wins off pressing mod convert after a few seconds
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
twin pawn
you literally press convert for free super armor and bumrush something
mystic elbow
shes pretty decent in pve
twin pawn
bc you can walk up to them for free
sinful anvil
but she feels mid aef in pve
mystic elbow
in pvp she's not bad at all in 2s
good supp char just not RaS level supporting in 2s
twin pawn
shes fine in pve considering most of her value comes from her endgame mods
ie Suppression
and getting her cda from transcendence
sinful anvil
4th paths play on same wavelength iiwiiโฆ
twin pawn
but overall her pvp is bad bc
sinful anvil
few exceptions like aisha ara
sinful anvil
but the ones that have a presence in pvp
def do
that ultrawide neutral
๐
rev 4th luciel etc
they allnjust make a lot more sens
when u put thm
next to each otherโฆ
also avarice building and curiosity r lowkey fakeโฆ
i didnt kno coin flip wqs a actvlive
active
can u believe
LOL
twin pawn
me when Mischief runs up to me and presses Lucky Chance
and it has a lingering hitbox so she can hit you and catch you
empty ore
Good news, that was bug and will be patched out
noble pelican
i think of classes like LA and I dunno if I entirely agree
LA and Surya the black sheep of 4th paths in pvp
twin pawn
i will never forget
iceberg was "broken" on release
nerfed that same week
DA didnt get nerfed for MONTHS
sinful anvil
YO
@stable nymph U
U
can have MULTIPLE
overlapping synergies
active at once???????????
i thjought
it was like
you could only ave1 or 2 depending on how many characters are in the thing?????/
twin pawn
as long as they count for another you will get it
twin pawn
bc then synergy wouldnt be worth using in pve
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
sinful anvil
WTEFFFFFFFFF
sinful anvil
bc then synergy wouldnt be worth using in pve
thats cap it would still be worth using
cuz
THATS HOW IT HOUGHT
IT WORKED
UNTUIL I SAW THAT SS
my mind is blown rn
LOL
twin pawn
youd lose too much for being unable to stack effects
i.e cant use MO for both ts and distorted
sinful anvil
better than nothingh..
twin pawn
which wouldnt make sense
sinful anvil
bruh
that
changes
everything
wdef.fff
that maks so muhc moresense now
i was so confused
when brian told me
twin pawn
also 6 slots the characters have to overlap bubs ๐ญ
sinful anvil
tyo get blessing of spirit + blesisng of mana + battlefield angel i was like
i juts figurwed
figured
he miscounted sltos
slots*
LOL
ok hold on
the 10k atk dream might have just been revived...
twin pawn
for reference these r the important syns for not pvp
abstract yacht
you could only ave1 or 2 depending on how many characters are in the thing?????/
u can have as much as u can fit
which is also why 4th paths are kind of privileged in their PvE games, cuz they can get a lot without really trading off other good ones like the other 3 paths have to.
sinful anvil
does any1 kno if the jumping part of genesis >>^xz^z is armored?
abstract yacht
it isn't
but the hitbox is so thick you hardly have any chance getting through it
and it doesn't help that it lingers for too long too
sinful anvil
yeah i quadruple checked the replay
turns out he pressed stoic 8 seconds earlier
we were on wintery, he was glowing and ig i missed the sound cue
smh
i feel like designating the character models as the top layer and putting any skill fx behind it has to b like a 10 minute photoshop jobโฆ.
kindred frost
Since I got a new job line up and I put my
2 weeks in and Iโm accords the street from my job I snuck out and went home on the clock and imma just clock out when itโs time
I feel absolutely diabolical and I love it rn.
heavy spear
your job is never gonna love you as much as you might love it
fiery lionBOT
solitudefreak_ has been warned
heavy spear
firetruck the system
kindred frost
heck yeah
sinful anvil
Since I got a new job line up and I put my
2 weeks in and Iโm accords the street...
nah thats tech bro
if u got automated clockin + place has huge wifi but u kno u got elsord 2 grind,
just make sure u in the aoe when u clockoutโฆ
๐ต๏ธ
@empty ore ARE U IPINGPONG
empty ore
Damn how did you know
sinful anvil
ok js checkn idk who it was on fl, i was about 2 deleteโฆ
2 mny suspex xlarhel6..
@empty ore ok if ur ipingpong then who is that laggin laby DOG cyberpunkโฆ..:
empty ore
What...
willow mural
bro this cs
๐ญ
im not that pressed cuz im
just doing it for the weekly
u know what
im gonna try
when im doing pvp
people salting me even though theyre winning is wild tho ๐ญ
kindred frost
people salting me even though theyre winning is wild tho ๐ญ
nah see I hate that so much
like ur mad at me cause im trying???
kindred frost
it really annoys me when busted classes make sarcastic remarks because you're not doing well
like darn sorry I dont have a skill I can whip out and covers the whole map
sorry im not a whale who cant just cash out and get the meta gear like ~_~
kindred frost
fr
I hate this add.
I think hes lagging too.
yeah you know what for this
why am I even subjectiving myselg to this
im going back to CA
im not good at this class
oh well
hollow hound
I hate this add.
Ak.
willow mural
rip 3x3
kindred frost
wait is that smooching?
willow mural
the oz?
kindred frost
I cant remember
willow mural
LOL
kindred frost
nah MtM
hollow hound
xia.
willow mural
soa is too strong
back to double atk
ras got me with sunshower ๐
the sunshower spam
ahhh ad
willow mural
@kindred frost dam i was close ๐ญ
kindred frost
<@972530320521969735> dam i was close ๐ญ
gg
okay, I think it cause I had so many stuff in the bg