pvp

[mystic elbow]

gn

[lavish socket]

althought that would be fun if u could use mounts

[lucid plinth]

combat mounts ---- oh wrong game.

[hollow hound]

Is that a MP or a RM?

[lavish socket]

neither

[lilac merlin]

Just had the most sus match ever

[mystic elbow]

Did u record

[lilac merlin]

Sadly not this time around it didn’t happen

I was fighting our most beloved CA and like mid match they just started lagging like crazy

They would just teleport to me and land hits

[mystic elbow]

Oh

Yea they do that

Idk if its on purpose

[lilac merlin]

It lowkey felt like it was on purpose it happened out of nowhere 😭

[buoyant folio]

Ofc they did it on purpose

[noble pelican]

Should I switch back to MtM?

[empty ore]

What is your current goal

Because I'm gonna say

Go back. This charging nerf hurts the more passive girls

Oz fine
Aes is on cope mode but playable

LA early game is probably dogwater.

Mtm is out here chillin. Playing aggressively wont be seen as so bad

[noble pelican]

I want the badge that gives the double atk chance

[empty ore]

For getting SSS?

[noble pelican]

Sadly

[lavish socket]

There a badge that gives double attack?

[empty ore]

Its not double

its command

[noble pelican]

Might be mistaken

[lavish socket]

Ahh ok

[versed knot]

Cmd dmg +2% * ^*b

[noble pelican]

Darn. If only. Misremembered

[lavish socket]

I was about to say

[noble pelican]

New PVP badge, please

With the recent rank change, it’d be a cool incentive

[lavish socket]

And make it double attack with MPR

Lol

[noble pelican]

Lol

2% double and .5 MPR

[lavish socket]

We'll be getting closer and closer to 100% double attack

[versed knot]

Get star for a badge that gives 30% mpr frfr

[lavish socket]

LMAO

[noble pelican]

Double attack build incoming

Cata would have a field day

[lavish socket]

Congratulations you won the game here is your broken badge

[noble pelican]

When people get SoA

I still want that badge, though. More Cmd dmg sounds fun

[noble pelican]

It very much is

[lavish socket]

You only need to get SSS once

To have it

[noble pelican]

[lavish socket]

Yeah it's permanent it doesn't leave

[noble pelican]

Lovely

Gotta remember how to do my mtm combos

[versed knot]

The ^^z??

[noble pelican]

Yes

With OoR

And wind 4 eventually

[lavish socket]

nah dw u just need 400~500 mil ED

LMAO

[clever sigil]

All due respect, AeS Is still workable. or still pretty good.
tl:dr: Her kit, stuns from actives, and her passive playstyle and methods maker her a force to reckon with. She can use some more MP gain, but she is still in a strong place.

Non-tl:dr
imo, She was rather nasty pre-balance due to the excess stuns that she got. And in honesty, you can't tell me that her skill size, coverage, and multiple stuns on-top of her stun durations, aren't vicious.
Might have to play a bit more aggro but AeS is workable. I don't think she's in the cope zone.
at best, some more MP gain to help her out and she'll be alright.

(what i reference is the hit and run styles. eg:

"Charge > Avoid opponent > Dash commands > Repeat > TP and charge if they MB >Repeat > TP > Elemental wheel > dash command combos >Repeat > Play super safe > Lightning shower > Commands > Lightning ball for shutdown/finishers > repeat"

I'm sure it's a skill issue on my end, but contesting her via melee chars is quite a rough matter. Though I grasp that her optimability is to lockdown opponents, while preventing them from gaining lots of Mana from being attacked.

It's also why I do ask for methods on dealing with AeS. (Excluding the satire )

Long rant over.

[empty ore]

There's no need for the all due respect. We're just ppl playing games here

[clever sigil]

Fair.

forgot to ask, how's that duelist weapon for you folks?

[empty ore]

Imo, be the double attack hero I never could.

[noble pelican]

I’m having fun with it! I actually have more MPR with it than with my Vos

Like…2% more?

I like the option to change the stats around with specialization. Using cmd dmg + double atk feels right

Not happy with how 4 of my jellies stacks are gone already, though

[knotty kraken]

if its all the same sockets
pvp weapon should have 3% more mpr over a s2+ vos

cuz of the 40% tax

[noble pelican]

Ohhh! That’s cool

[knotty kraken]

iirc the 5% from the weapon effect is non normalized

[noble pelican]

Been a few days since I’ve played

[knotty kraken]

like with the duelist armor stats

[noble pelican]

MPR shenanigans strike again

Is there something posted that shows the max values for the spar weapon?

[knotty kraken]

not that i know of

try elwiki tho

might be updated by now

[lavish socket]

I heard from some KR folks is that its better than a perfect vos but not a perfect soa

so its better ig

[abstract yacht]

BQ players:

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-13486077408184960752

[dull forum]

Berthe challenge

Both Berthe challenge/rosso have marks

1% adapt + 1% double attack for Berthe/attribute chance for rosso

[lavish socket]

oh...welp I can make without that

[dull forum]

Battle pass still best mark

☠️

[lavish socket]

pretty much cuz money

[dull forum]

Ye

[lavish socket]

is that badge additive or multiplicative?

[dull forum]

The double/elemental thing?

[lavish socket]

no the one from bp

[dull forum]

It should be additive

O

It's multi

[lavish socket]

ahh ok

[dull forum]

Normally my phys attack is like

80-82k

Without that

[lavish socket]

and the mpr one?

from the second bp

[dull forum]

With it it goes 85k or so

And that one is additive but normalized

[lavish socket]

ahh ok

[dull forum]

So the mpr gets affected by the 40%

[lavish socket]

yea

it suck that the spar weapon is the only additive and unnormalized mpr

[dull forum]

Well

If it wasnt

People would have extremely messed up stats

I'm sure if we didn't have to drop that many sockets on dignity stones

Ppl would be running maxed out crit maxi some cool down red

So on and so forth

Maybe their add DMG would be up there too

[lavish socket]

im already 76% crit 72% maxi and 64% add damage

with more then 30% MPR

powercreep is here to stay

[abstract yacht]

https://youtu.be/sTQ0gXETys8 I still find this funny

[warm hornet]

when the cloud was an active.

[buoyant folio]

You're an active.

Dang DB mains can still disrespect you in arena

[mystic elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968

[abstract yacht]

Gurumi has always been a special active tho

[mystic elbow]

so uh.. GS has a new nuke to carry?

i just watched this laby lose 80% of their HP from it

[buoyant folio]

I hope GS has 80% of his HP nerfed

[dull forum]

No mercy?

@mystic elbow

[mystic elbow]

Yea i think so

Like 5 giant rectangles

[hollow hound]

Spamable rectangles.

[empty ore]

Its been his nuke since they nerfed Retribution

[mystic elbow]

I haven’t seen it until yesterday.

[hollow hound]

Being able to spam a bravery/strength skill multiple times in a short period of time during pvp should be banned. 😂

It amazes me how these people can gain so much mana in just a bit.

[abstract yacht]

You should thank that to MPR rather.

[willow mural]

upvote my mpr suggestion 😩

[abstract yacht]

there, I contributed to the suggestion's discussion

[abstract yacht]

damn I'm so low

[dull forum]

Which

Ok I read it

I've been said on stream

Mpr should be capped at 20%

And all mpr passives in the game should get gutted

Have u seen Oz's 😹

Or hrs

Or kes

[lavish socket]

tbh 1st path elboy shouldn't have massive skills

but here we are

[dull forum]

Ke doesn't aim for large skills

Mpr is an issue on ke due to

Tenacity chaining

[lavish socket]

the half circle slash

[dull forum]

Vertical is 100m0

100mp

It's a strength

Ke is ridiculously strong cuz he can tenacity chain

Mortal blow>tackle>crescent>sonic blade awk tepeat

And u go even/positive

If u hit two ppl

☠️

[lavish socket]

tena chaining is not unique to ke tho

[dull forum]

Yeah but having ur bar

UR WHOLE ARE lit up at 100mp is bonkers

Bar*

[lavish socket]

tru

[dull forum]

His iron body is 48mp

Or less

Depending on ur stating

Stats*

If u stand still + 35% mpr plus the 10% multi he has

That thing goes to the 38s

38mp

Elesis ib is like 42mp

With 32% mpr if u pick light trait

[willow mural]

https://discord.com/channels/428264566074638338/1260736843121430641

[dull forum]

I'd say the biggest problem

Is the characters that have light traits/broken mpr passives

Cuz that's just char dif

[lavish socket]

in my opinion there are too many options for mpr

maybe if they limit to only the character passives that gives mpr

or just the spar set

[willow mural]

Yeah be sure to bring it up

I didn't know some people had broken mpr passives

[mystic elbow]

DA, PR, Oz, CS

idr others zz

IG technically Devi given how her braveries work

[kindred frost]

how the heck is a one on one where you duke it out no help at all for wusses

also did they reset the ranks again?

[mystic elbow]

Verum’s just a hater fr

Yes they reset ranks again

Cuz it was bugged before

[kindred frost]

im teaching this person ca basics

dude said" bro did it flawlessly"

i feel good about myself rn

[dull forum]

Spar set would be the only fair way to do it

U remove and characters that have inate mpr shoot up in the tier list

U remove mpr*

[mystic elbow]

Didnt rly know CA had basics tbh 😭

[hollow hound]

Pvp gets boring when you have to run from the nukes.

[willow mural]

Well don't type it here worryhmph

[mystic elbow]

No nitro ..

🤣 🫵

[willow mural]

Shut up pls!!!

Donate nitro so I can not be nitroleas anymore

[kindred frost]

I would if I wasnt broke

[dull forum]

the basics in question

[abstract yacht]

"Super armor and stationary enemies cannot be turned around"

me getting turned around while doing rapid cannon: so that was a ### lie

[dull forum]

facts

[summer merlin]

me firing rapid cannon on the wrong direction on purpose

dont work most of the time but its funny when it does

[kindred frost]

CAs dash slap combo too

[boreal kayak]

so i have a question

can shine chase normally one shot?

Fought a DA last night. something just feels extremely off about that match.

because first off, i only hit him like 3 times, and he was able to get the 200mp for shine chase

and when he used it, it did ALL of my health

and also, im not sure about these people, but its kind of funny how, before i lost my S rank to this one trick pony trash, i actually do some damage to S rank people. meanwhile i fight these..i dont know, BOTS, i think, i hardly do jack ** to them, i comboed some of these people for like 2 minutes without dropping and did like HALF of their health after all was said and done.

[fiery lion]

overlord_cameron has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[boreal kayak]

i mean its funny, these..i dont know, im still convinced they are bots, all play the same

you hit them, they do some cheap one shot, and do NOTHING else

and they dont even mana break you

now i dont know for sure, but i feel like it shouldnt take me literally a whole match time limit to kill someone when they are doing NOTHING to stop me.

[mystic elbow]

no shine chase does not one shot

[boreal kayak]

.

so that son of a *** was cheating.

I KNEW SOMETHING FELT OFF.

[mystic elbow]

well did u record the match

[boreal kayak]

honestly..i normally never do it. but i did take a picture of the name

because i was going to ask about it last night

but i got tired lol

[mystic elbow]

if u want to report them then u have to record the match

[boreal kayak]

goddamit

i just want to know, has anyone else seen these..bots?

they all seem to be A rank, all have stupid amounts of health, all play the same, they never mana break, they all play for one move,

[mystic elbow]

i think everyone comes across them

that kind of playstyle isn't rank oriented

even in SS youll come across ppl who just tank and try to one shot

[boreal kayak]

yeah, but unless im wrong here, im pretty sure THOSE people dont have THIS much health.

[mystic elbow]

you do no dmg in general

[boreal kayak]

i mean ive seen people kill with +10 void before, so..

[mystic elbow]

they play a class that already has high dmg typically

IN is not one of those classes

[boreal kayak]

not like there is THAT big of a change between +10 void and +10 FoJ, i mean what, its like 2k?

[mystic elbow]

there is a big difference

mostly from the mystics

[boreal kayak]

oh, okay, i see.

[mystic elbow]

10 foj already has higher base attack power compared to 10 void

but u also get more mystic slots for attack power

[boreal kayak]

ah, well im still working on mine.

but uh..thanks for clearing that up.

[mystic elbow]

[white valve]

Shine chase can oneshot in the corner if you just decide to not break

[boreal kayak]

i wasnt in the corner. i was in the middle of the map when he did it

[white valve]

It shouldnt kill in the middle unless very undergeared

[mystic elbow]

is that rly a one shot then if you decide not to break 😭

is that not just stupid

[boreal kayak]

how could i break when the match just started

he did it right off the gate

[mystic elbow]

then yes thats a hacker

[boreal kayak]

i only hit him 3 times

[mystic elbow]

also

that skill feeds a lot

[white valve]

do you have mp reader

[mystic elbow]

so even if they used it round start you can still mb it

[warm hornet]

[boreal kayak]

no, but i feel like after this crap, maybe i should invest in it.

[mystic elbow]

u should invest in it

always

regardless if the person is hacking its good to know what resources they may have

[abstract yacht]

do you

perchance have the nasod goggles?

allows you to see enemy's MP

hackers dont make skills cost free
they just hack with unlimited mana
so nasod goggle checks through that easily

[mystic elbow]

^

[abstract yacht]

reminds me of the AD who was hacking but tried to play it off as if she wasnt

[boreal kayak]

i dont have any of that. though after this, like i said, maybe ill invest in it now.

[dull forum]

@boreal kayak idk if u trolling but it was a) the da is a cheater b)ur build is cheeks one of those two

Just wait for the free+11 vos next week

Ur DMG spikes up with that

[knotty kraken]

the only time ive done that little damage to someone

is if oor decided to just never proc

[dull forum]

I understand why he says he does DMG to ppl in s/a

If he's fighting ppl with z red DMG and z hp

He gonna do ok but the moment he fights someone built it's wraps

☠️

[knotty kraken]

hes also gotta understand that everyones basically been down one rank with the pvp reset

sss -> ss
ss -> s

so its not really surprising to see these people with higher level gear lower down than usual

[mystic elbow]

he says DA used shine chase beginning match so idk

[dull forum]

What class does he play

I do agree that's sus as hell on the da

But say if the da had max mpr and he was playing some feedlord champ + lightning chain

I wouldn't be surprised if they got 140mp off of getting hit 3 times

Uk what I mean

[mystic elbow]

IN

[fiery lion]

g.g.g has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dull forum]

Hatred

Sus da*

[mystic elbow]

@rich quail how do u like new ara esc

[rich quail]

It is so much more comfortable. I don't even have to worry about A.Spd modifying it, so I don't have to relearn timings every time I switch to Apsara with her A.Spd passive.

[abstract yacht]

esc skills are aspd scaled right? so if u esc during FoD, are you still safe in iframes the moment u can react?

[mystic elbow]

seems like for ara she can react at any point until shes in the air

the problem for this ara player im talking to

is i think theyre pressing directional inputs

which causes them to leave too early and have no SA out

[rich quail]

Oh, that's defintely a problem if they're not trying to do that.

[hollow hound]

How does "double attack" works?

[knotty kraken]

what do you mean?

like what does it do

[mystic elbow]

Exactly how it sounds

Attack²

[noble pelican]

you'll see another set of numbers when doing a cmd or active skill

it's a chance, and i believe the value in additive? correct me if i'm wrong

[kindred frost]

Not the mathematics

[mystic elbow]

(Attack + Attack) ongod

😮‍💨

[kindred frost]

I wait no cause thats attack time attack

It’s more like attack + attack or attack(2)

[mystic elbow]

^

[kindred frost]

I COULDNT ACKTUALLY FAST ENOUGH

[hollow hound]

So it's like a chance to cast the same combo or something?

[mystic elbow]

Smoked LL

[hollow hound]

:B

[noble pelican]

yeah

[knotty kraken]

no like the same damage

[mystic elbow]

Its the chance to attack twice per hit

[hollow hound]

So I can do double dmg of the original combo/hit?

[knotty kraken]

pretty much

[noble pelican]

correction. not casting the same combo. just like @mystic elbow said

[mystic elbow]

Yea basically

[hollow hound]

Okay, now I get it.

[knotty kraken]

thats why i have ~70% of it

[noble pelican]

getting that along with wind attribute is amusing

[knotty kraken]

its pretty good

B)

[mystic elbow]

Characters with cmd dmg like EtW r good with it

[kindred frost]

Maybe I should care about my double attack

[mystic elbow]

Im pretty sure CS n CA have built in double attack

[noble pelican]

goals 😔

been doing it for MtM

KE would be devastaing

[hollow hound]

💀

[knotty kraken]

its called having the funny weapon

[mystic elbow]

Honestly if CE didnt have asinine KD values

On XXZZ n ZZXX

She’d be amazing with double attack

[noble pelican]

double chance MEB 💀

[mystic elbow]

She has double cast now even tho it kinda sucks

[noble pelican]

double, double chance?!

wow

[mystic elbow]

But its on skills

[noble pelican]

[mystic elbow]

M kinda sucks anyway

💀

[noble pelican]

💀

double attack poison commands

[heavy spear]

throwback to the time my cata's ambush showed up as double attack on mitsu's screen but not on mine

and the resulting conversation about how crits can register on one player but not on another

why are you like that, game.

[abstract yacht]

similar to how attributes proc; whenever you proc a double attack, all attacks within a certain amount of frames will inflict a copied damage of the hit

the damage will also always show as "critical" (red number), even when it doesn't actually do critical damage.

this is how it looks, a sort of shine animation will happen when u proc double attack
a 2nd set of number will appear right on top of the other right after it

if you ever played BQ, she's the easiest you can spot it on
because she straight up gets 100% double attack chance on Dread Weapon and Brutal Cutter when having Shade Illusion's buff.
(I think she's the only character in the game who can actually apply double attack on special actives, although specifically 2 special actives only)

[kindred frost]

streaming if anyone wants to come

[dull forum]

yes

@abstract yacht if ur fogged u can get extra iframes on elboy/ele/rena/ara esc skills

things like chung esc/aisha/ain etc dont benefit as much

[empty ore]

CA normals are absurd because of it.

[empty ore]

Just do Mtm

Double attack proccing magic stuff for quadruple attack.

[abstract yacht]

I believe only wind makes use of double atttacks? I'm not sure double attacks proc attributes themselves
but the first attack proc'ing wind should effectively transfer to the second one , I think?

[boreal kayak]

i can assure you i wasnt trolling when i said all of this, sorry for my late response.

why would i troll about THAT of all things, anyway

[boreal kayak]

also, remind me what mpr is again?

[dull forum]

mp cost reduction

[boreal kayak]

huh. alright. maybe he wasnt cheating then.

i cant say for sure now, anymore.

but to tell you what i did, he was just standing there, i hit him 3 times with commands, just to see if he would do anything, and he got shine chase off those 3 hits after i left him alone for like 10 seconds

i mean the people who just stand there and do nothing always make me a little suspicious.

because in EVERY SINGLE ONE of those cases, my paranoia has ALWAYS been justified.

[dull forum]

do u have lightning chain

[boreal kayak]

no

[boreal kayak]

and then the next match i fought a TP who played the same way, did nothing, just let me hit her, always played for that bullet move.

heres the thing about the TP though.

[dull forum]

assuming they had max mpr

this is without 7w

or imprint

[boreal kayak]

she took me nearly the entire match time limit to kill.

now i dont know for sure.

but i think a +10 void isnt THAT weak.

i mean compared to everything else, yeah, obviously.

but i find it a little suspicious that a TP of all chars is THAT tanky.

i mean it cant be Tene gear, because obviously you cant bring that in arena

[boreal kayak]

and you can get this from 3 command hits and being left alone for 10 seconds?

i mean i have been gone 6 years, so i am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, okay, i do have an open mind.

[dull forum]

not reall y

but

mpr does affect a lot

[boreal kayak]

noted.

well, maybe you could answer me another question then.

what the HELL made shine chase so powerful

espcially for a 200 mp move

i mean, what, i know reforge effects are a thing, but how much would you have to sink into it to make it THAT strong

[dull forum]

post ur hp

this is post stat window nerf/thing/whatever they did

[boreal kayak]

and again, its always the same thing, these "people" dont mana break, have insane health or defense pools, i comboed that TP for 5 minutes in a row because of shadow gimmicks, and i dropped it near the end because my hands were getting tired by that point.

[dull forum]

709k hp

b4 change

[boreal kayak]

i have 400K health

[dull forum]

so u at like

[fiery lion]

g.g.g has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dull forum]

what

w h a t

whatever

[boreal kayak]

yeah i saw that

[dull forum]

500k kinda

ur squishy

this were my stats pre change

[fiery lion]

overlord_cameron has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[boreal kayak]

yeah, i dont think i could kill someone like you.

thing is this was AFTER the change

i mean the only reason im talking about this still is because of all the questions i have, which i thank you all for answering, btw. its just i GENUINELY want to understand, is this a me issue? are THEY pulling some bull***?

i dealt with these kinds of "people" even before the change.

and ill say it again, its always the same strat with no change.

play for a one shot, do nothing else, let you combo them infinitely with no MBing, if you can infinite, have stupid defense, etc.

take nearly an entire match to kill..

[burnt jungle]

title?

[dull forum]

fs

[burnt jungle]

[boreal kayak]

I'd love to see people with better gear then me against these bots or whatever they are. Because if THEY would struggle, then I know something is up for sure.

[celest ore]

https://tenor.com/view/mgrv-raiden-punching-armstrong-gif-24576818

[knotty kraken]

just seems like a massive skill issue >.>

[empty ore]

Indeed, wind makes the best use because a wind proc on a hit is just a single hit.
What I was talking about was Magic staff. So you do one hit, proc magic staff. the single hit procs double, and then magic staff procs its own double attack. 4 hits.

@noble pelican SO TAKE THE MANTLE

GET about 25% Double attack and go wild

[noble pelican]

@empty ore i’ll check my stats later on! I think I’m around 16% double

With spar weapon, but I do have a foj with some double attack

Eventually, I want a vos with double attack too

[empty ore]

No point

Pvp weapon is as good as a vos now

[noble pelican]

that's good to know!

[noble pelican]

once i get perfect specialization, i can reach 25% double attk with this title

gaming

[boreal kayak]

i know its a little late, but beautiful outfit.

[noble pelican]

never too late! thank you so much

[empty ore]

Forgive me but I have a few critiques of your gear.
-Dont, just dont wear HL 5/5 wear 4/5 and get a perkisas top or bot
-DVC or Soul crown please! We are in reawaken meta.

• I know why you use golden accessories and they are fine tbh if they got hp ID's. But Gaia earring and Water arm still equal you 3% phys.

[noble pelican]

you're forgiven! i've been trying many builds out

both gold accessories have 1 line of hp if that means anything

the HL is actually 4/5, hair it too expensive 😭

[cyan quail]

700k ur kinda squishy

[dull forum]

800k only chance

[knotty kraken]

i think i only have like 650k

[buoyant folio]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ptsd-cat-ptsd-vietnam-scared-cat-gif-18079504

[hollow hound]

I like your profile picture.

Approved by Veni.

[buoyant folio]

@violet gate I summon thee, o' creator

[violet gate]

I have been summoned….?

[buoyant folio]

Yes

u

the famous artist........

😤 hath been summonthdhed

[violet gate]

Wow nah no fame soz

[buoyant folio]

False

[lavish socket]

I got kick out of the game while in a match bruh

I lost so much RP

[buoyant folio]

Kill KOG

[cyan quail]

Kill the lizard

[fluid finch]

who wants to run pvp

[buoyant folio]

I usually walk pvp

😌 .

[heavy spear]

the free +11 vos is probably going to my AD

[empty ore]

Putting that on my nyx

[heavy spear]

sad that dem still doesn't have much going for them in 1s

i've been giving thought to changing my cata back to them for a bit

[noble pelican]

I can finally have big boi numbers for my mtm 👌

[empty ore]

Yes

the well awaited glowup

[noble pelican]

[abstract yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[noble pelican]

The irony

[kindred frost]

RVs hit boxes are so freaking STUPID MAN

[kindred frost]

GOD I hate fighting this freaking RV

I think its just gear

cause he catches me once and my hp is gone

but ofc he can spam mb

[mystic elbow]

No way king of elsword votes in his own poll

😭

WHY EVEN ASK US THEN?

[twin pawn]

HE SWUNG THE VOTES

[kindred frost]

Voting in America be like:

[dull forum]

I'm making a PvE support bot Anyways

[mystic elbow]

good

who

[fluid finch]

anyone wanna spar

[dull forum]

Dem

I was thinking about diangelion

Cuz they are best shredder rn

[mystic elbow]

now u can charge ppl for your services too

😌

but yknow youre gonna have to freeze right

DeM probably has one of the more difficult freezing

[buoyant folio]

DeM dude...

[dull forum]

@mystic elbow

can u dem for me

[mystic elbow]

i dont have dem

i have surya

[dull forum]

@willow mural @mystic elbow

I got a question PvE overlords

[willow mural]

Ye

[mystic elbow]

lets not call me tht ...

[dull forum]

Should I make a diangelion just to be a shredbot

[willow mural]

Mmmmm

[mystic elbow]

DiA is expected to do dmg as well typically

[dull forum]

Gg

[willow mural]

They're only one patch away from being gutted too

[dull forum]

NO WAY

[mystic elbow]

unless u go full support and get everything too like 19-4 title

[willow mural]

But then again they didn't get hit

Before

[dull forum]

Hmmmm

[willow mural]

So they might keep flying under the radar

[dull forum]

Cuz ik

Dem is getting magified

;/

[willow mural]

Yeah they threatened so

[dull forum]

I don't wanna be a magboy

😭

[mystic elbow]

whats wrong with mag

its the better side

[willow mural]

Mag has the best characters

[dull forum]

All my real ones are phys

🥶

[willow mural]

But if u rlly want a support slave just got av or something

[dull forum]

Damn

[willow mural]

Cuz phys support

[dull forum]

I do gotta get an erp page then

[willow mural]

Kinda sucks

[mystic elbow]

AV is also easier than DeM

play DeM if u like a challenge

AV if u want to be free

[willow mural]

What challenge 💀

[dull forum]

Hmmmm

Dem is high apm bro trust

[mystic elbow]

freezing

DeM has the hardest freezing

of all the characters atp

it used to be Surya but she got buffed

[dull forum]

Is it bc of uptime or

Why

[willow mural]

Hitbox kinda wonk and it's short

Like 3.5s or something

[mystic elbow]

uptime and DeMs CDA/heal is too good to just not have

[dull forum]

Short is kinda...

[mystic elbow]

so they do have to go back in forth

[fiery lion]

g.g.g has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dull forum]

Bru

[willow mural]

lmao

[kindred frost]

Idk why when I get my 🫏 beat I mega about it 😭 I need to stop doing that but it’s so cathartic to just publicly announce

I HATE THIS CLASS MAN

[mystic elbow]

mean while AV who has vow can just sit at meteor

[knotty kraken]

sniped

[mystic elbow]

and constantly freeze

cuz vow will make her buffs reach regardless

or like DA who also has a short freeze but its air-usable + he's in general way faster

[willow mural]

Yeah go av or something

Or nyx

[knotty kraken]

OM trust

[willow mural]

Da has no shred for whatever reason

[dull forum]

Hmmm

[mystic elbow]

if u wanna play dem id say just go for it

at the end its up to u

[dull forum]

Can anybody here spot me an erp page

[mystic elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[dull forum]

Smile

[willow mural]

Bro that's like 33 bucks u on ur own 😭

[mystic elbow]

he's literally more rich than both of us combined too

[dull forum]

Wymmm

Guess I make an Av

[heavy spear]

AD mirrors must be hell

[dull forum]

They fun

[abstract yacht]

AD mirror is basically who gets the confirm out of the dive first

trade dive until one of them get hit in the minuscule opening between recasting the dive

[kindred frost]

alright im queing for pvp

all yall getting DUNKED ON

nvm

[buoyant folio]

00:06

[kindred frost]

Exp wait time made me nervous

[fast flame]

uh

[kindred frost]

I talked the good good and get decked my particle

[fast flame]

I'm trying to find info for a friend getting back into elsword since 2015

they're a chung main and they want to know how to quickly get back into the swing of things

i'll also take advice for luciel mains

[kindred frost]

rn is pretty good

they doing events to get people up to speed

giving away a free +11 vos

[fast flame]

can you use the vos in pvp?

[twin pawn]

yes

[fast flame]

okay which chung is the weakest rn?

man's against playing something meta because as he remembers IP and TT were the strongest chungs at the time

[kindred frost]

DA is definately thr strongest rn

[fiery lion]

divine_scholar has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[kindred frost]

MAN REALLY

[fast flame]

lol

[kindred frost]

Cent/TT is still kinda bull

im not a chung main but I dont see fp a lot, I would say hes like that least meta chung

[fast flame]

was there any new tech?

like withing the last... 8 years?

[kindred frost]

yeah new leveling system, new gear

new skills

[twin pawn]

if u mean tech as in combos probably not

[kindred frost]

all the classes got an additional advancements

[twin pawn]

skills and what does the most damage in pvp yes

[kindred frost]

ohs it that what that means?

[fast flame]

hold on lemmie ping him this chat so he can read this

@faint dust

YOU CAN ASK THE PEOPLE HERE

ok what else do i need to know

[mystic elbow]

Asking weakest chung is like asking what someones favorite form of cancer is

(There is no weakest chung)

[fast flame]

well i figured not much changed really

its more because

the guy is particular on using a weaker chung because its more fun for him

more experienced with the original 3 chung classes, but he def didn't like DA

[mystic elbow]

Er

Yea thats gonna be a problem theyre all strong

[fast flame]

riiight

[mystic elbow]

but if we went by which chung i believe takes the most “handles”

Id say CC

[buoyant folio]

Rose is toxic fr

[celest ore]

this is serious
everyone in queue has plus 11

[buoyant folio]

Uhh

yeah they do

I wasn't complaining about dmg though

😭

just toxic character

[empty ore]

There are no weak chungs

Well i asked around and apparently CC is the weakest due to his lack of range

That however does not make him weak compared to other classes.

[fast flame]

yeah i'd imagine

So i guess it'll be fine for him to Keep DC for now right?

[buoyant folio]

ye

[fast flame]

well since i'm a lu main

which is the good one rn since i'm curious

[buoyant folio]

honestly all of thernm

[fast flame]

oh thank god

so I never really played the 4th class so what's all the differences between each lu class

and

kinda dumb but i might attempt this

which one is more lu focused?

[buoyant folio]

who knows

If you're doing pvp you're obv. gonna want to use both equally

I really just saw an aisha do her HA

💀

[heavy spear]

idk about "lu focused" but cata's lu is very strong

[buoyant folio]

god I'm starting my toxic era rn

[mystic elbow]

u need

for that

or namechange to zombiespro1

[buoyant folio]

Delete

OM

thanks

[kindred frost]

gags

[mystic elbow]

LMAO

[buoyant folio]

Over Mind gives me brain worms and a tumor

I might just end up dying in a few days

[kindred frost]

speakoing of brain...

I was feeling kinda silly, idk why, but I dug up my old MRI pics and made a really stupid meme

ik im weird and cringe, im embracing it at this point as it is an integral part of my charcter.

[buoyant folio]

Oracle

can you kill an add for me pls

[kindred frost]

ii got you

[buoyant folio]

dude does nothing but code YELLOW and defib

an d mental hygiene

🤓

and then some dumb suction

I cannot stop flagging this man

Literally have never lost to my own character so much before lol

Like literally

class carried to all hell

[kindred frost]

wow so thats the real name of the skill

shoot me his name bro

[buoyant folio]

Mental stupidity

[kindred frost]

if i see him im get em

yeah like

[fiery lion]

divine_scholar has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[kindred frost]

what the heck kinda name is that

[buoyant folio]

idk

[kindred frost]

like

just say homeostasis

[buoyant folio]

look in dms fr

[celest ore]

the elhit is crazy

[buoyant folio]

ElMurder

that man didn't deserve like 100% of his wins

Delete OM 😌

[hollow hound]

H e 1?

[buoyant folio]

nah he lost

that's why I said he won

[kindred frost]

Looks like the new chapter of my life is beginning

Mona the assassin

[hollow hound]

Also k1ll all of the RHs you encounter for me. :)

[kindred frost]

“Why have you come for me”

Me: idk you made my homie really mad and they were like kill him so I said sure

[kindred frost]

The avenger arc begins

[hollow hound]

No matter who, just record and k1ll.

[kindred frost]

Me: Ty for helping me get better with all the pvp advice you gave me, is there anyway I could repay you?

You guys: …

[abstract yacht]

his forte is just elsewhere compared to the other 3

like putting a fight between CC vs the other 3, the other 3 can contest him hard cuz they just have way more tools to do "random [redacted] go!"
but CC has the better MP gain among the 4 plus the funni G u a r d

[dull forum]

is pvp laggy for yall

like ppl tping n such

even teammates

[dull forum]

wait kozin is coming back

🥶

@fast flame to answer ur question cc is broken due to reawk + the bead passive he has, fp takes handles in 2s to play ok or be impactful, cent is ezpz da is ez pz

if hes only gonna do 1s then any is fine

in 1v1 fp is the meta chung

cuz he has a Touch of Death combo

aka he can loop bulletblitz plus all his manabreak stalling/interrupting skills and u die off 1 catch

:j

[celest ore]

uh oh FP terror dropping soon?

[fast flame]

Yeah I need to carry his fp to 99 and title run him

Hes considering doing elsword content again.

[fast flame]

Noted

[clever sigil]

sounds like it's time for you to get that ERPoint Farming in

[clever sigil]

i'll bite, PVP-wise, All of them are solid with elbow grease, but im tempted to say that CC might be the least strongest PVP-wise.

Im going off of actives, special actives, etc. And to be fair, all the chungs are quite hella solid. Especially if mastered.

[clever sigil]

The man, The myth, the LEGEND.

[clever sigil]

.......Now im curious. context?
This is kinda wild ngl.

[faint dust]

lookin at it now

sorry been grinding

lmao

Yeah I want to pvp

and i saw that there was a huge balance patch so my interest has been wanning back and forth

more on it then anything

grinding from 85-99 sucks

Is there an easier way or it's just to the mines for that exp

[clever sigil]

only thing i can think of is story dungeons.

but If you do need a buddy, I'll be on in a few mins.

(Actually, I am on, Just a bit busy atm)

[fast flame]

yeah sure we're just taking a small break

doing the solace dungeon for now

might as well title grind in the meantime

[clever sigil]

o? so you guys are already at it, neato

[faint dust]

Yeah

plan on hitting 99 by tommorow at least

[clever sigil]

And Kozin, As much as I want to say "welcome back" I hope you don't let this game burn the hell out of You.
PVP still is a cesspool, But im positive that you're prepped for it.

[dull forum]

If he coming back frfr I drop him my erp pots so he gets a small bost

[fiery lion]

kozino has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[faint dust]

WHAT LOL

i didnt swear, i guess talking about another game is forbidden

[dull forum]

Skul

[faint dust]

yeah but I played other games

where I'm in higher penctile of raiding

and well its stressing

so I came back to elsword as a destresser

[dull forum]

Did u get ur free vos

[fast flame]

I did somewhat fund him

[dull forum]

The free +11 one

[fast flame]

he wants vos on his DC

[faint dust]

Yeah

[fast flame]

that's the only chung that isn't 99

[faint dust]

I jumped an new chung, forgot the name of that other class and IP

but I kinda wanted it on my DC so all 3 of my chungs can be 99

[dull forum]

Imma keep it a stack w u

Pvp has so many new things and classes

And broken tools

[faint dust]

I've noticed like the black orb and doom and wee maxed out speed active

[dull forum]

That u might be a bit more stressed than relaxed ☠️

[faint dust]

For anything that isn't those

[dull forum]

U'll be ight if u need carry/forces I can hook u up

Only thing u would need to get by yourself is fog of death

Joy

[fast flame]

fog of death?

[faint dust]

fog of death is like that black orb that they send out

that auto catches for you I believe

[fast flame]

o

[faint dust]

gotta out run it

think its like 8 seconds or some craziness

[fast flame]

yeah I'll fund you that

[dull forum]

Nah fog of death is a big aoe gas that does damage + slows u by 70%

It's a legendary force that u gotta craft

[clever sigil]

or worse case: Drabaki Runs

But that will take a good while.

[fast flame]

so this guy has work 3 so we have like 2 more hrs

but he's off tomorrow

so probly get him to 99 and then figure out the rest there

[dull forum]

Yep

[fast flame]

rn hes 91

58%

[dull forum]

Just doing the story quest should be fine

[clever sigil]

it is good XP

question is, did he already do the story quests

[fast flame]

about that

man's stopped around lanox story quest

I'm watching him just get confused over

every thing

[clever sigil]

suffuring is magic

And comedy.

[buoyant folio]

yo...

I am curious about the artist of your pfp

the artstyle p cute

[fast flame]

https://vgen.co/licialurie

here ya go

[buoyant folio]

TYTY

omg they got a lot of work......

[fast flame]

yeye

i stream occasionally

so its my sona

[buoyant folio]

it's a really cute character

[empty ore]

OR OR OR

Be the rng God and get it from snek

[fast flame]

OK WE DONE

[faint dust]

I have a general question

What element is basically used for pvp nowadays?

I see that wind stones are super expensive

[mystic elbow]

Wind/Water

[faint dust]

but in return, everyone probably uses wind resistant

Do we go all of 1 ? or mix and match?

like Either full wind or full water?

[mystic elbow]

I think its up to u but wind is 100% a must

[faint dust]

maybe I'll do like wind 3/ water 1 or something idk

[heavy spear]

oh yo kozin is here

pvp nowadays is real different from how it was years ago but oddly i feel i don't get as upset as i did back then

[faint dust]

Well we are all older lmao so maybe

Yeah I figured it's way different but I still wanna kinda experience it

Okay I have another slew of question

So I brought the pvp gear just now

Do I enhance this and just use it, it starts at +0

[mystic elbow]

Dont enhance

Do 2 pvp matches and youll get the +9 ver of it

Theres also a duelist weapon you can get

[faint dust]

ah okay

i was like starting at it and be like man this sucks lol

thanks I got it just now

was gonna say

[clever sigil]

ye, fun thing about current duelist gear: specializations.

[faint dust]

Yeah I've noticed, its pretty cool

[clever sigil]

Makes your duelsit gear quite strong , but requires some Items

[faint dust]

gonna take awhile

latency still is a thing, i missed this game

so much haha

[celest ore]

kozin is actually back 🙏

o/

[faint dust]

im so bad now, i gotta get back in the lab

i got perfecteed like 4 times lol

[celest ore]

want me to send some jellies when i convince my game to launch?

[faint dust]

yeah if you don't mind idk what jellies are, imma about to head to work but ill probably be on tommorow

ill hover around her from now on for awhile

here*

[celest ore]

sweet

they’re one of the mats you use to upgrade the spar gear

tfw your mailbox is full
well that’s fine ill send em later

[kindred frost]

basically a year ago I had a seizure, im fine it was combination of stress, working, too much, getting no sleep and potentially a medication Im not taking anymore. It happened at work and I work in a hospital so that was convenient cause then I was wheeled to the ER. They ordered an EEG and an MRI and the next day I got it done and kept the results

[faint dust]

oh let me clean my mail box beforre I leave

so i have to do quest for the force skills and title runs

[cyan quail]

You can claim Unique Illipia from the Hyper Punch Event and some Henir Fragments from Prof Pho to get you started to grind for Fog of Death

[celest ore]

sorry i don't have as much as i used to but i hope 4 stacks is good for now

[faint dust]

Oh I have no idea how to use em so I'll take a look when I get back in

Thanks for all the hospitality, really appreciate it

[heavy spear]

i can only vaguely remember the last time i fought a FP

most chungs i face are DAs

only thing i remember about FP is they have a strong nuke that also looks cool

[clever sigil]

First. cheers to doing better.

Secondly, Thanks for what you do. I can see how hospital work can drain the life out of a person.

[kindred frost]

Thank you, and it most certainly can. Im a patient transporter and Im still immensely drained and definately changed me psychologically, I can only imagine what the nurses and drs go through

[empty ore]

For a while you wont be maxing out on elements

especially if you are lacking in ERP and a erp page. Which is also a requirement for pvp

[faint dust]

I have zero erp

[celest ore]

zero 😭

[faint dust]

Yeah it's a cold world out here

I died in 3 combos

With me holding the space bar

💀

[empty ore]

Unfort

Although

Grinding erp wouldnt be bad rn

You would need to put every point of erp into exp.

Until 200 at least

DONT clear the quest giving you the 99 erp reset scroll

Oh wait i forgot about these

https://i.imgur.com/TsvUL5M.png

Free page expansion

You good, keep grinding bro

[faint dust]

Whats the best way to get erp?

I guess title farming?

[celest ore]

from literally nothing, you'll get a ton of exp just by grabbing essential titles
especially during this burning event

and then from there, optimally, you get a farming page and spam trosh until you can do plegas 💀

[knotty kraken]

and do sds

especially with the hyper punch

you should easily be able to get into the 3rd section

[celest ore]

oh yeah i forgor sds, definitely run those 5x a week

[knotty kraken]

ez 1b exp B)

[empty ore]

ERP is just levels, you grind dungeons to get exp to level erp

For you, itll be a place called Trosh nest

Tbh im a little invested

@Kozin If you need help and im not busy lmk

@faint dust

[faint dust]

Ight bet, ill hit yall up tommorow since I'm off if anyone's around

[empty ore]

yeah np

[heavy spear]

looks at my 175 erp and sweats nervously

well thats what saturday is for

[empty ore]

Before I would have said

100 erp and reset

But we are literally on 4x exp

[heavy spear]

yea

[empty ore]

Also uhh, go grind buddy.

[dull forum]

@faint dust lmk when ur on na I pass u 3 erp pots

Ez

[celest ore]

3 erp pots from level 0

bros gonna skip 100 levels

probably more ngl

[dull forum]

It's

10b exp per potion

Can someone ashal it

[celest ore]

that cant be right can it

straight to 151????

[knotty kraken]

straight to its yep

[abstract yacht]

well I mean... yeah

EXP requirements aren't that high in the first 200

[knotty kraken]

LMAO

[abstract yacht]

it starts picking up a little bit around 250 iirc?

[celest ore]

💀

[abstract yacht]

and then it becomes clearly bad by 300+

[celest ore]

1-100 being literally nothing goes hard

can you like record audio i wanna hear what the game sounds like when you level up 100+ times in a frame

[knotty kraken]

my guess will be somewhere between

clearing wall and creating a new character on a fresh account

[dull forum]

Check how much is 5 pots

If he gets to 200 on 5 pots

Idm passing them to him

Since they like

[celest ore]

oh thank god i found it

i looked hard for this https://youtu.be/1qQR_17FpQk?t=234

[dull forum]

130m a pot

[celest ore]

seems like 5 pots would get him to 171?

[dull forum]

Gg

Honestly he just needs 250

100 mp cost 50 res 50 hp 50 wherever he wants

Max mp or cd or defense

[celest ore]

if he could skip the need to make farm page and instead use the free page for pvp

that would also be optimal i guess

but idk how realistic that is

[dull forum]

He'd need more pots

If hes only here for pvp it's attainable with just erp pots alone

[celest ore]

i was thinking more just absolutely brute force it with burning event

but yeah

[dull forum]

Well that too

[empty ore]

This what I like

the community coming together

So fricken gay

[fast flame]

Okay so mild update

Attempted talking mable into it but unfortunately he aint all that interested

He did pick up the +11 wep tho

[heavy spear]

talk tyronesama into it

(im jk)

[fast flame]

Ah idk tyrone all that well

issac probly not coming back due to other games

Kozin's gonna get back into pvp

content idk, mostly cuz that's a whole set up

[kindred frost]

Who’s the returning guy coming back else again

@faint dust you neeed a guild bro?

[clever sigil]

Kozin: the returning Elating Arc

[fast flame]

would be nice to see him do other classes

cuz he also liked DW....

might play the 4th path eve as well

[clever sigil]

ssshhh, No secend layer suffering yet (You'll get your time sooon)

[kindred frost]

I could help carry him