pvp

[oblique sundial]

yeah

character gains +2 cp for every switch skill, +1 cp for every one of the little ball things that hit you, and 1 cp a second

but the guy does negative damage and cant ledge convert so you can just mash whatever or wait for the combo to drop because he doesnt infinite

[knotty kraken]

i just rushdown and get him before any skills are thrown :)

[oblique sundial]

that works too

dem has no sa lul

[willow mural]

this dude is clapping me so bad LOL

yeah this looking like aaaaa

https://tenor.com/view/nfs-need-for-speed-nfs-carbon-need-for-speed-carbon-cutscene-gif-27586810

[oblique sundial]

id help you get the matchup down but i dont have a dem :(

[celest ore]

shoulda seen me getting terrorized by some KE

felt like ganon/bowser at the end of a terminalmontage video

[knotty kraken]

certified ganon main right here

[willow mural]

nah im just doing bad

should i make a double atk wep

[knotty kraken]

if you are prepared to almost never use skills

then yes

[willow mural]

i kinda dont wanna spend any money tho 😔

[celest ore]

you need to be the kinda class with no nukes for it to be worth i think

[willow mural]

i would do it but i hate mysticing

[oblique sundial]

be cata

your nuke can be a double attack lul

[versed knot]

I see that PO doing the good ol dark procs bs

[willow mural]

lol

[willow mural]

they need to nerf meditation

[mystic elbow]

but it is nerfed 🥺

[knotty kraken]

not enough >:(

[oblique sundial]

theres no way poison cloud only does 300% a hit

[empty ore]

It does

Thing is that make Oz's skills strong is her passsive

20% chance of a 100% def ignore

[abstract yacht]

20% chance on each hit
cuz apparently per skill was too broken it got nerfed

[warm hornet]

do it! 50% double attack would be good enough and then add elemental chance with wind.

double attack proc with wind is pretty nasty.

[real viper]

imagine double hit on a shadow ambush mod of Libe

[oblique sundial]

people need to ban this map

[rich quail]

It'll be a lot easier to slot that ban in once Glacial is exiled to Team or Spar stage select.

[oblique sundial]

and then a new terrible map gets released

[rich quail]

Considering that Korean development is actively trying to distance itself from PvP content...
Odds of a new stage honestly seem pretty low.

[oblique sundial]

didnt know they were trying to distance themselves

neat ig

[rich quail]

At the very least, I recall the latest dev conference admitting they "want to force players into PvP as little as possible."

Here we go.

[willow mural]

people who want a lot of fighter pots:

[oblique sundial]

just have a level 10 alch

[willow mural]

u can only make a limited amount every week

😭

[empty ore]

I really dislike this developer

Like gosh, I know people dont like pvp alot anymore

But you can make the mode more entertaining without overloading the player

[willow mural]

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[empty ore]

One MMO i played had weekly guild battles. That was fun and exciting and kept hype in the community because people had something to talk about every week

[willow mural]

the biggest reason people dont want to take people seriously is because of how high of a gear standard you have to have

like yeah, you could live off +9 duelist and void

but most people are just gonna one shot you

pvp matches in 1s dont last more than like a minute

nobody wants to pvp the +12 soa reckless fist and be devastating striked

or deal with the revenant spamming super armor

[empty ore]

Fr, gear has always been a major greivance.

Cause thats by design

I cant say its worse now because its always been bad. There are just more things that having strong gear enables.

Like your statement about the +12 rf ds'ing you. Thats a real annoying issue.

[mystic elbow]

i think the gear issue is definitely better now

than before

cuz yea u can have a +12 and one shot

but u can also have

a +11 and one shot

even some classes

can be +10

and one shot

all because of duelist

no one is rly tanky

but just about everyone

does dmg

[willow mural]

we also have the huge lag issue

and the delays

[mystic elbow]

yeaa they basically allow anyone on this server

[willow mural]

people chunking out 2 haunting spirits because of them 💀

[mystic elbow]

i fought this NI

a loonngg time ago

AU NI

and they used

fog

three times

back to back

bc of storage

[willow mural]

i think thats like the 2nd contributing factor

imagine playing another fighting game where someone runs at you at slideshow frames per second

[oblique sundial]

thats just melty blood vs australians

[warm hornet]

i am the exception.

[celest ore]

it just highlights the class difference more i think
like in the grand scheme of things the damage inbalance of chars in pvp with identical gear is crazy

also yeah the lag issue is a big one
the issue now is that game developed for korea has massive regions containing people stretching like halfway across the earth

but i also think at its core it's a skill issue on kog's end netcode wise

[mystic elbow]

? use summons and u wont be

[mystic elbow]

yea thats why i completely disagree with low gear tournaments

[celest ore]

fair

[oblique sundial]

a +10 void cata probably does as much as a vos dem lul

[willow mural]

you know what, i didnt wanna do this at first

but its really interesting sounding so ima do it

gonna use +10

any fun ib combos to go with this?

[empty ore]

Crescent Lullaby

Black Mass 3/4 lowers defense i think

So thatd be good

Btw you dont need 50. 20-25% is good cause you'll end of sacrificing too much damage

Duelist gives 4% anyways

[willow mural]

it just sounds really funny

i only have the wep and cape dang

lets see

ooh the earrings are fairly cheap

-10% def hehe

[noble pelican]

I have a full elemental chance weap with wind 4. Should I change some of them for double attack ?

I dream of the day where they improve on the servers/lag. Both community’s (PVE + PVP) would be happier

‘Cause isn’t PVE party’s connection based on peer-to-peer as well?

[empty ore]

As you being a metamorphy you absolutely should

Elemental proc is fine n all but

You already have very easy ways to reduce KD

And wind proc is dependant on the strength of the weapon itself

[noble pelican]

That makes sense. I noticed my wind procs did more dmg once I upgrade it to +10

“40% of the weapon’s damage” if I remember correctly

Now the next issue: which mystic color to choose 🥹

[empty ore]

Blue

[willow mural]

how much elemental proc should i do

[abstract yacht]

that's kinda a hard task considering the current environment PvP is in

[empty ore]

Thats why they keep giving up on everything

Most ppl only pvp for Fighters

Few only Ereda for the ability to make Brave Warrior accessories.

Ereda especially used to be a very beneficial mode that really helped f2p folks.

Put Chlorite seeds in Ereda exchange. Watch the numbers go up

[willow mural]

goofy ahh build

[empty ore]

Your command damage did get a nice bump

[willow mural]

i think ima sacrifice some elemental chance

for more double attack 🤣

[empty ore]

Good

Good

[willow mural]

ok i did it

[noble pelican]

Beautiful!

Also, the double jump speed identification

goofy builds are fun

even got a resistance shred on the imprint

forgot to switch OoR out for Shadow's Descent

[willow mural]

should i reident or nah

[noble pelican]

what's that?

[willow mural]

reidentify

[noble pelican]

ohhh

i think you're ok

makes it easier to get to upper levels

[willow mural]

U HAVE THE TURBINE

I WISH I HAD THAT SO BAD

[noble pelican]

i'm old that's why

not the sprial blast

🥲

[willow mural]

its mostly a meme skill

[noble pelican]

i got memed on 😭

[willow mural]

but if someone is on the same linear plain as me (or like one platform above like the edge of eternal winner) i can get a catch off it

but if someone is somehow able to avoid the first part of it they can jump out of it 💀

[noble pelican]

💀

[willow mural]

arnold did it on cat and whooped me LMAO

i used it on this richter in eternal winner and he had to use obtene cuz i could use rising burst and keep hitting

but i messed up where i used it. if ur on a spot like that middle platform in wintery velder then im probably gonna drop

[noble pelican]

interesting!

[willow mural]

anyways please buff >>^xxx
its decent but the fact that it only sometimes works hurts so much

if i use it theres a 50% chance its gonna fail 💀

[noble pelican]

where's our command reworks 😢

[noble pelican]

would be cool to see another accessory like the turbine. the closest thing KOG has given us for more atk chance is the "Is This Me?" title from elrianode

[willow mural]

Unfortunately in this meta I don't see commands being buffed =[

Yeah I have is this me but I prefer shadows descent

I'll try it out tmrw tho

[empty ore]

That new accessory from the great steel wall gives double attack

[noble pelican]

There is?!

Dang…

[celest ore]

how much?

[willow mural]

2%

It also gives 7% aspd and 15700 hp

Downside is that it replaces undying flame

[willow mural]

?????

it reall yhurts to not have mp recovery LOL

i need to really conserve mana

but i do really nasty cmd dmg!
really wish i had crescent lullaby or hod but i dont wanna spend anymore money lmoa

WOOOO BEAT THE SSS MINERVA WITH MY BUILD!!!!

[versed knot]

Yeah you caught me surprise * ^*b

Good work * ^*7

[celest ore]

oh shame

[willow mural]

o thats u!!

yeah great match fr

i noticed that anytime u got me to the edge of the map i had a bit of time to escape with either scaldic or dodge n slash

[versed knot]

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I think I dropped you like 2 or 3 times that match cus I cant convert down a platform for the life of me 😭

But yuh ggs * ^*b

[willow mural]

yeah its all good

when i was spamming the fireballs i panicked and dropped as a result 🤣

i was wondering why i was comboing so slowly and i saw that i was in anni

i think i might need to change that 8% aspd socket

changed it to a 10%. hopefully i dont leak

[knotty kraken]

thats so much damage 😭

[willow mural]

all red

😋

[knotty kraken]

casually hittin 30-40k a hit ;-;

me barely doing 20k

[willow mural]

wind iv?

shadows descent also helps alot
if u dont have that theres that new title from monaterra

that they gave as a freebie

[knotty kraken]

ive wind III

water I

43% crit with shadow -_-

whats does this even mean?

does it not stack with moi

[willow mural]

wuts moi

oh mark of inferno

[knotty kraken]

or does it not stack with itself

🤔

[willow mural]

well it says only one effect that decreases for 7 sec

moi is 10 sec

[knotty kraken]

i guess it wont stack if another person has the title

[willow mural]

yuh

wait wut4

OH

[knotty kraken]

maybe some better equip would help 😭

quite scuff

rn

[willow mural]

probably ye

u really need to stage that 😭

[knotty kraken]

-5% mp cost is calling

[willow mural]

not the fb in q

😭

[warm hornet]

because you're fighting me.

[knotty kraken]

nah thats on most people

[warm hornet]

ok.

[knotty kraken]

why have all the star ranks come out today

fought 3 of them

in SS

[versed knot]

Who are those guys

[empty ore]

Get dvc, get the AM face middle acc, get ice queen and put Wind Aura for Face top

[rich quail]

There's a week left on the season, so they might be trying to hoard enough RP to stay star until the reset?
Odd that you'd be seeing three different ones, though. They should be getting stuck fighting each other.

Unless some of them are alts, or something.

[knotty kraken]

nah like proper star ranks

love the que matching

also

i dont even have dvc lol

[rich quail]

The big mechanical bonus from DVC (reduced awakening duration so you can boom more often) is as good as worthless on EtW isn't it.

[empty ore]

Yeah

but

4.5% phys/mag

[mystic elbow]

nah its still pretty ok on EtW

it means she'll be able to use her awk attack more

and she's almost always in awk

[noble pelican]

Those IB accessories are pretty good! If you really want to optimize, you can farm/buy the Ereda magic necklace

[willow mural]

Ereda ring too

[noble pelican]

🥲

[willow mural]

I'm not even gonna lie

I bought all of those

Not a big fan of ereda

[noble pelican]

Another mode where certain classes are top-tier

[willow mural]

Then again I did try just playing on fl

I might try to play on dem but I have NO clue how gearing works there

[noble pelican]

Gear doesn’t matter in Ereda; I’ve seen people with just duelist & +9 void, and they can do well depending on their class

Someone may correct me, though, ‘cause I’m not inclined to play Ereda

[mystic elbow]

gear is normalized

just about everything is normalized

[empty ore]

Its all class reliant

Gotta have good clearing

Able to blow up the tower

And generally work well with your teammates

Clearing mobs, killing the tower, stopping players. Gotta know those 3 to win.

[noble pelican]

I’m the MTM using hyper accel, using super armor, and zzz-ing people ☠️

[empty ore]

Mod Heavy Press them too

[real viper]

gear doesn't matter in ereda indeed since you can go in there with pretty much naked if you want to and you can still play just fine in there

the only thing that matter is your skill trait, your force passive/active/skill set that you brought inside

[willow mural]

Things that need to be nerfed in pvp:
AS meditation
Rena nature force mana gain

[real viper]

AeS pleier: it's already 🚮 enough, what else do you want?

Rena nature force does indeed need a nerf for a very long time

[willow mural]

I didn't say to take it away, they just need to nerf the mana regrn

[real viper]

yea

they don't have to take it away, just please split the pve and pvp out please

[willow mural]

Aisha already can already charge, so her being able to sit there and charge even more is so silly

Yeah

[real viper]

because she get straight 75 mp for just a single awk in both pve and pvp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/838607007698386996.gif?v=1

DyB casually awk and Wind Blast into your face

[willow mural]

Its so surprising she wasn't nerfed

There should also be a nerf on mpr tbh

[real viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBJ1vHeeDYU @willow mural

and it's still a thing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1048545851385061457.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

the vid is 3 years ago, the nature force revamp was around reboot time iirc? which is ~4 years ago

[willow mural]

Is dyb just not popular in KR or something

I'm still trying to figure out why she wasn't touched for the balance thing

Nerf bullet blitz

I should be able to manabreak that

[willow mural]

Met another salty guy in q

Little does he know I'm killing him with a double atk wep

oops

whose mans is this 🗿

we only had 3 matches against each other and i won one

@knotty kraken another salt!

[mystic elbow]

yknow

its almost

so obvious

who that is

[willow mural]

i just learned who it was LOL

[mystic elbow]

like as soon as I saw the first message

dude is so predictable

[willow mural]

i was gonna cook up a good comeback but hes not worth it

screw that creep he should be in prison

[mystic elbow]

he likes attention so

just dont even reply next time if u dont wanna give him his validation

[willow mural]

yeah

dont drop the soap 💀

[knotty kraken]

:D

what class are they

[mystic elbow]

DB

[willow mural]

sucks that u cant block offline people

coward 🗿

[mystic elbow]

blockin in this game is doodoo flakes anyway

[knotty kraken]

he left lmao

[knotty kraken]

:D:D:D:D

the chair is comin home

[willow mural]

WOOO

[knotty kraken]

124/95

pretty good imo

done until reset lol

[oblique sundial]

does it start with a d and end with an r

[willow mural]

no

[oblique sundial]

:[

[willow mural]

u_u

[mystic elbow]

it starts with h ends with a

[willow mural]

e*

[mystic elbow]

i cant spell get off me

[willow mural]

😈

[mystic elbow]

irl name starts with j and ends with b

[willow mural]

idk dudes name and ima keep it that way 💀

[knotty kraken]

Jeb??
like from minecraft??????

[mystic elbow]

[willow mural]

omg I haven't heard the name Jeb in so long

[glass echo]

Hashima?! 😨

[mystic elbow]

hashima is my 2nd favorite player

[noble pelican]

I hope your favorite player is yourself

[mystic elbow]

heck nah

[noble pelican]

🫠

same

[noble pelican]

Meditation is such a funny skill now ‘cause it only gives back 10MP, which is like standing for one extra second

Idk if people use mod meditation, though

[noble pelican]

For the voices, KOG hasn’t reveal who any of the voice actors are, right?

[willow mural]

they do

you wont be able to find them on the site or in game, though

only the main cast is known

[noble pelican]

I’m worried to change to the NA voices for PVP ‘cause of audio q’s

[rich quail]

It's okay. You'll just hear Elesis' rubber chicken scream from across the map for eternity.

[noble pelican]

HEEEEYAAAHHH

[willow mural]

i have no idea why some characters have worse sound quality thano thers

didnt yall record in the same studio 🗿

[rich quail]

English Ara's voiceover is really badly put together, so. I'm on KR voices all the time.

[noble pelican]

T h i s

[rich quail]

Not at the same time, no.

[willow mural]

i always use english cuz i like them lmao

[rich quail]

And I think what's pretty clear is that they gave the first few characters more time in the studio, and then rushed through characters past Chung.

You do not sign on The Voice of Kirito Himself to play Add and then screw up his audio that badly if you have the time to avoid it.

[noble pelican]

Isn’t it jarring to hear those few KR voices though, or do you not notice them during pvp??

[willow mural]

i do notice

its annoying

[noble pelican]

🥲

[noble pelican]

Wait…for real?

[willow mural]

my main issue is that yall brought back the vas for 3rd job voices but did redub over everything else???

yes

[noble pelican]

Did add dirty

I haven’t put NA voices on in forever. I haven’t even heard Laby’s

[willow mural]

didnt*

laby is really good

[noble pelican]

I stopped using it once Ain was introduced

[willow mural]

i unironically really love ain

bad accents are my guilty pleasure

[noble pelican]

English dub needs Love 😔

I’ll give NA voices a go, @willow mural, in honor of you

Can’t wait to hear Chung’s “RELOAD” from across the map too

[rich quail]

HEREIGOHEREIGOHEREIGOHEREIGOHEREIGO

[noble pelican]

☠️

You’re so right—

[willow mural]

imo none of the vas are bad

the direction is just 🍑

[noble pelican]

Agreed

Same with the mixing

[willow mural]

add ASMR 🗿

[rich quail]

Somewhere they got the voice tones between Ara and Eun backwards.

[willow mural]

ara sounds like she has a bad cold 😔

[rich quail]

So Eun speaks with a high girly voice and Ara is a low growler.

[willow mural]

it actually gets better for 3rd job

but then it begs the question

why didnt you redub literally everything else

[rich quail]

The damage is already done.

[willow mural]

the only character i hope they go back on is lu

she sounded better before

the grown lady voice only works with altar of evil lu 💀

[rich quail]

Fair enough.

[willow mural]

ig it could work for innocent too but i still feel like a higher pitch would work

[noble pelican]

Redub idea for Elesis: make her whisper “Iron Body” so people will never know when you use it ☠️

[rich quail]

I think when they got Brian Beacock to do Raven, his Yumichika voice is a good fit for Blade Master and... he doesn't have enough of an angry growl for the rest.

[willow mural]

and kr laby is very talented but her voice is too high pitched for me 💀

only person that gets close to that in the dub is

its weird cuz the story mode aisha wasnt that annoying sounding

if i have to hear

[noble pelican]

[willow mural]

HIYAHIYAHIYAHIYAHIYA

one more time ima lose it 💀

[noble pelican]

I just remembered i’ma have to hear that ☠️

Shoot-

[willow mural]

to be fair the teleporting spam for aisha is annoying to hear no matter what dub it is LOL

[noble pelican]

One of the few times the teleport spam—

[rich quail]

I'm pretty sure the Hyas are recycled KR dub audio.

[noble pelican]

I’m out right now, and I don’t want to watch videos for the dubs

I wanna cry listen to them in arena

[willow mural]

chung is gonna get on your nerves

[noble pelican]

He already does-

[willow mural]

RELOADRELOAD FIREFIREFIRE HERE I GO

[rich quail]

Bar's already set pretty low on that one chief.

[noble pelican]

I have a hard time with fighting Chungs already

A double debuff

[rich quail]

Now you'll have a hard time fighting Chung with the voice of Miles Tails Prower.

[noble pelican]

Challenge: No sounds other than the voices

I’ll be crying by the end

[noble pelican]

I can hear it already

[empty ore]

Bingo, as SomeCallmeJohnny once said
"Its not the voice its the direction. And they got bills to pay."

[fading meteor]

I love watching SomeCallMeJohnny's reviews. One of few people that give genuine feedback on games they play/review. And, goes into every pro & con of said games

[willow mural]

never heard of him, but ill give him a watch

[glass echo]

Speaking of dubs

I used to play with JP dub

And whenever Aisha teleported she'd go

'Bleh'

It was super annoying lmao

[buoyant folio]

bleh

[noble pelican]

bleh

Y’know…the dub isn’t as bad as I remember

Warming up to it

Idk about Camilla, though

[willow mural]

she reminds me of apple jack so i love her to deat

h

(i used to watch mlp all the time when i was in elementary-middle school)

[noble pelican]

Ohhhh

Thick accent indeed

[sacred niche]

I think Rie Kugimiya Aisha says ''Hunya'' per teleport, unless JP changed that lately.

though ngl, I kinda miss using JP voice as well, but that was like decades ago.

The only thing I probably don't like lately on JP voice side is, they didn't do the similar echo reverb voice effect on Ain's awakening state, which is a bit of a let down.

[oblique sundial]

i thought it was straight up the same va

[noble pelican]

Noah English dub is nice

[noble pelican]

Never heard the JP voices. Would’ve made things interesting

[sacred niche]

I dig the JP voice imo, except for Ain, he doesn't have the reverb echo voice during awaken mode like KR has.

Though too bad, modding voice is illegal as well and afaik it doesn't work anymore so....

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[willow mural]

im so dumb ugh

i keep switching to annihilation 💀

this dude keeps kicking my butt

maybe i should bring back wing lmao

[glass echo]

Changing map bgms is also against ToS but so many people still do it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sacred niche]

^I asked this one already here way back, and said bgms are fine.

Just scroll far up here probably last month or something/find it or w/e.

[rich quail]

Only penalty level for cosmetic sound mods are warnings at GM's discretion, yes.

[hollow hound]

This DB is so boring...

You win, he throws salt. You lose, he throws salt too.

[real viper]

Sounds like a natural nature of a pvp pleier

Usually I kept the thinking of whenever I lose, it's my fault for making a mistake during the match up

(exclude moments of fighting against heavy geared pepega when I'm on my sub doing weekly for fpot)

[willow mural]

dude shouldnt be in pvp q he should be in prison 🙃

[real viper]

Can't blame their natural nature, I prefer ignore the whisper

Not worthy to reply back

[willow mural]

cass said theyre just looking for attention so its best to just ignore 💀

[real viper]

Yes

I felt better ever since I started to learn ignoring whisper that is unnecessary for a reply

[mystic elbow]

more like natural nature of an add player

💀

[buoyant folio]

I got salt that rivaled that energy from a Chung

[willow mural]

When we nerfing daybreaker pvp 🗣️

[buoyant folio]

become korean and rich 😤

vote w your money fr

[noble pelican]

Sometimes, I whisper people gg and that I like their combos, but I totally understand this mindset😔

I either dread or become hopeful when I see the little !

[willow mural]

??????

didnt even know wall could do that 🗿

[celest ore]

i mean personally when i get a salt whisper i just

its hard for me to even gather up enough energy to care

salty purple message person can stay mad ig

[noble pelican]

Fire wall was out for blood

[celest ore]

that range 💀

[noble pelican]

Very true

[willow mural]

i think thats a glitch

because i tried it again and it didnt work

[real viper]

Technically it's alr in almost everyone's mind nowaday, whenever they received whisper it they will automatically think it in a negative way especially when they lost the match to a stranger

[willow mural]

wall should be able to block physical projections too

wait nvm it does

magic attacks is so vague

[celest ore]

i love gg whispers fr

whenevers someone salty tho ngl i just take a screenie, show my friends, and ignore them

[willow mural]

yeah i cant do it again

i think dude just got really unlucky 🗿

maybe its because he was still in the falling animation when i casted it??

[celest ore]

hmm maybe

suck tracking behaviors in this game always so weird

[buoyant folio]

Your sheer skill was added into your skill's tracking

makes sense to me

[celest ore]

fr

[buoyant folio]

What I hate is how sometimes unintentional effects occur during a fight as MP

Something you don't want to happen, happens

smh

[celest ore]

i found out homing attacks love mn's claymore so i been doin a little trolling

[buoyant folio]

May homing attacks be nerfed 🙏🏽

[celest ore]

i absorbed like 3-4 blaze wings with claymores in a match once i was losing it

it was so funny

[glass echo]

Wym you "absorbed" the blaze wings

Like intentionally threw it out when there was a claymore so it'd just hit the claymore?

[willow mural]

they play minerva

so the opponents wing mustve whiffed cuz of the claymore

[celest ore]

whenever they casted wing i would just press claymore and for some reason the blaze wing ai would rather target the claymore than me

[abstract yacht]

nice u made me hate firewall even more

[versed knot]

Yeah sometimes when playing a char with homing skills, I'd intentionally leave claymore on so that it'd get hit instead

Works with haunting spirit too

[willow mural]

dw i couldnt replicate it 😂

[oblique sundial]

Demersios little stick friend really loves to eat wind blasts

[willow mural]

ive decided to stop using black mass 😭

i really need the hp from the wing

[noble pelican]

i was close

gg @willow mural

[willow mural]

i need a combo that gives less mana

i think i got it

i just have to spam z

but the issue is that im fighting people with a lot of mpr

[noble pelican]

🥲

[willow mural]

ig thats on me for sacrificing it in the end

[noble pelican]

Love how FL looks once she awakens

majestic hair!

[willow mural]

ikr 😭

i want another outfit

i tried buying one but dude was charging a ridiculous price

[noble pelican]

x_x

that double attack build hurts a lot-

my gad

even though going all dmg is meta, i'm glad KOG gave things like double attack + elemental chance

[willow mural]

ok i gotta avoid zxxx like the plague it seems

that feeds like crazy lmao

[noble pelican]

it looks so pretty, though qwq

[willow mural]

it does 😭

also fun fact: did u know while she does the running fireball combo (>>xxxz) she leaved behind a trail of rose petals

i just thought that was neat

i have to remember to use my skills to activate burning flower too 🤔

[noble pelican]

that's a neat fact!

[willow mural]

i read it off the elwiki a couple years back

yeah this is an op build

i wish i had built in double attk like bq lol

i think this bq has the same build as i do LOL

nvm she has dark on her wep 🤔

tthis is great neutral lpractice lol

holy cow my neutral is horrible

im getting clapped so hard 🤣

would it be better to have an hp artifact or a phys/mag def 🤔

i have 602k rn

[noble pelican]

i wonder if BQ would heal more from the double attk 🤔

[noble pelican]

does BQ get a bonus or something like that for using dark?

i remember that was a thing

[willow mural]

i think?

the thing is that this bq didnt use any skills

she was like mirroring me

my neutral is so bad 😂

which is a pure

https://tenor.com/view/nfs-need-for-speed-nfs-carbon-need-for-speed-carbon-cutscene-gif-27586810

NOOOO I WAS CLOSE TO BEATING THE SHAKTI

u ever just

fat finger

🥲

im taking elrian clock off

9 times outta 10 i misues it anyways

[willow mural]

im so good at bad decision making

i had that match in the bag then squandered it 😭

[noble pelican]

it's sad to fat-finger when you're so close to winning 😭

[glass echo]

Should've just been better 🧠

[buoyant folio]

🤓🫴🏽🍔

[willow mural]

TRUE 😭

[tight quail]

does RaS use Str skills on PVP?

[mystic elbow]

Yes

[empty ore]

Everybody Punch is your stack

[willow mural]

bruh this es keeps beating me

i have no idea how to fight her 🤣

shes too good

im not spamming iron body enough

and im choosing poor places to awaken

[oblique sundial]

To be fair

Es is busted in 1s

[mystic elbow]

all elesis are

[willow mural]

i need to learn how to play better

maybe ill go to spar one of these days

I do wish that I had more constant sources of ignoring/lowering def

They need to rework that lvl 90 passive

Or bring back the cmd dmg

But nerfed a lil

[willow mural]

i wonder how effective it is to switch modes while doing combos?

like being in gale for zzzx but switching to anni for that x

[oblique sundial]

at least bq/fl cant juggernaught setplay me in the corner for a year

[mystic elbow]

?

bq can literally put u in a no mb loop

and FL has blazing wing and fire wall as buttons

[oblique sundial]

ye but that doesnt feel as bad to get hit by :c

[mystic elbow]

it doesnt? 😭

[oblique sundial]

Nah I'd rather get two tapped than watch an unskippable cutscene

[mystic elbow]

what do you think anti-mb bq is doing

[oblique sundial]

Two tapping me

[mystic elbow]

uh

no

good guess tho

[oblique sundial]

every bq is two tapping me

[versed knot]

200k assault strike and 30k normals will nuke you so hard during that 2 unmanabreakable seconds

[noble pelican]

If we’re talking about the same person I know, same here 🥲

[noble pelican]

Elesis is one of KOG’s favorite children

The no-MB builds that people have are so fascinating. All you can do it watch you HP drop

[willow mural]

i wouldnt put it past them that they just forgot tbh

[celest ore]

imagine juggernaut buster with tornado suction

okay now time travel to 2016-2017 and you dont have to imagine anymore

[oblique sundial]

2016 was great

We all thought the game was broken, so they nerfed everyone then added laby a couple years later

[empty ore]

Laby ruined everything

[willow mural]

everything changed when the fire nation attackec

[knotty kraken]

:)

[willow mural]

i wish i was strong enough to beat this raven on my luciels lmao

i just need 1 more win for the weekly

[willow mural]

where are all the afkers

i dont wanna keep trying give me my guild coins so i can leave 😫

only one more and then its dems turn...

[willow mural]

PLEASE stop qing me with this fp

my brain is melting i dont want to think

dems cp gain needs to be nerfed 🤣

aint no reason i should be able to cast braveries like this

as soon as i can do it faster its joever

[oblique sundial]

dem is fine

[hollow hound]

Guys be careful, there is a NL hacking in pvp.

Hacking HP.

No rank.

I have a video.

[buoyant folio]

report it to kog lol

[mystic elbow]

because the rules of this server is awful

u have to delete that

[subtle bobcat]

xigncode is ngl

[hollow hound]

💀

[subtle bobcat]

i still won tho

[mystic elbow]

But thanks the two of u for informing us

[oblique sundial]

still dont see how its defamation

regular gameplay videos are fine but if someones hacking its a no-no lul

[mystic elbow]

Cuz its not defamation

Defamation is usually false

Theres no reputation to defame when theyre a HACKER

Caught on VIDEO

[oblique sundial]

wdym the anonymous person on an alt account has no reputation????

[mystic elbow]

News Headline: Random Elswordian hacker caught on tape sues KoG for defamation

[clever sigil]

Ik that's lightwork for you.

Go grab rank 1 now g!

[clever sigil]

Whose the raven.

Ik it isnt ne but I'd like to fight em.

[willow mural]

i forgot the ign lolol

[willow mural]

what to do

what to do

i did crit counter

[willow mural]

i went with crit counter, nature immersion, and risk management

[loud wadi]

if you do 2s, the heal when you die is good

forgot what it's called

[abstract yacht]

the 100% crit hit for next x hits
what condition has now?

since in the past it was when evasion triggered but that stat is long gone

[willow mural]

we dont 2s so i can hold off on that

i think its attack/attacking have a chance

[willow mural]

IM SO CLOSE TO BEATING THIS GUY BUT IM DROPPING THE BALL

[empty ore]

DId you beat em

[willow mural]

no

im always so close but no dice

its cuz i keep wasting mana tho

[oblique sundial]

when are they gonna make aisha >>zz not drop on everything that isnt perfectly flat

[willow mural]

me: why am i dying so quickly
also me:

[knotty kraken]

so i decided to put my pvp build into ashal and well

👀

might be overkill

[oblique sundial]

no wonder you hurt

[willow mural]

i hate mysticing

but i need to finish this meme weapon

[willow mural]

does blocking someone meann you dont face them in pvp q

[willow mural]

Dang I really gotta remember that these folks will one shot me given the mana

[knotty kraken]

yay deranked to S

time to kill myself

[willow mural]

D=

Iits just the beginning of the season champ

U can do it!! 💪

[oblique sundial]

im sorry but what is that mp gain

[willow mural]

mine?

just elesis things

[subtle bobcat]

gale go free mp nyooom

[willow mural]

=]

[noble pelican]

Putting my MP gain to shame

[real viper]

that just daily dose of elesis in pvp

or probably because of that s.ignition buff (via awk) help gaining extra mp

[willow mural]

yeah definitiely

the downside to that i feed a ton

everyone has some goofy cheese 💁‍♂️

[oblique sundial]

like shakti and absurd damage output

[glass echo]

Uhm uhm actually about Shakti

You can't say that because

[rich quail]

Because..?

[glass echo]

?

[mystic elbow]

lets not talk about shakti she's the only char i enjoy playing

🙂

[glass echo]

Yeah don't talk about Ara in general tbh

Otherwise I'll quit

[willow mural]

ara has

...a big head

[solid socket]

Devi is hot

[oblique sundial]

suryas gotta be the lowest effort character in the game

like idc if shes good or not why do you get falling dragon before i can mana break

[mystic elbow]

cuz she got the best orb gaining out all the ara's

[oblique sundial]

It's like if cata had demersio cp gain

[abstract yacht]

at least only in this context :^)

[glass echo]

Wym?

[noble pelican]

I’ve never tried her. I’m too much of an Aisha fan to play other characters 😔

[noble pelican]

He plays DeS. That Chung has a lot of orbs commands/skills

[sacred niche]

SU is the most easiest and cheapest Ara path to play with at PvP, it's in the same disgusting level as DeM gameplay.

almost no knockdown value abuse, long superarmor, the card barrier and falling dragon is fun to use at first, but it tends to get boring into cheap gameplay for wins.

[mystic elbow]

meanwhile i just sa punish ppl and win on shakti

[mystic elbow]

I'm not sure if its an NI (aka 3rd job) thing only but he does have a skill that I think stops u from gaining mp

i'll have to look it up

[oblique sundial]

dem has almsot no super armor lmao

[mystic elbow]

but i have seen a VC running around mp burning

[oblique sundial]

if they did, id probably still play them

[mystic elbow]

i dont think they're talking about dem sa

but dem using braveries back to back

[oblique sundial]

its okay they only do like 10 damage

[mystic elbow]

You're NA yea?

I can probably guess who you're running into

cuz they're the only one weird enough to run full activation chance on a VC

but if it is them then they're not hacking

if u want, u can record a vid and DM it to me

and i'll be able to tell u

[hollow hound]

Oka.

If I get into a pvp with them, I will record it.

[mystic elbow]

Alrr

gllhf

[mystic elbow]

sounds about right

go to spar

[sacred niche]

I'm actually pointing out that the similar things SU and DeM has is they have no effort at all to use, and their gimmicks are cheap and boring.

[mystic elbow]

ngl SU would probably be more comparable

to RV

than DeM

in 1s

but RV has a more reliable one shot

[noble pelican]

Very true. If you’re lucky, some people will actually combo in arena!

[noble pelican]

I second this 👍🏼

[oblique sundial]

I would combo, but someone's gonna just nuke me so lol

[celest ore]

i need to play less honorably on my main fr

i aint even got nukes 😭

im breakin out the juggernaut buster cheese fr

[oblique sundial]

On God if I catch you doing that

I'll probably do nothing lul

[abstract yacht]

in this context (pvp ch)
cuz in pve Surya orb regen is sad as hell relative to the others lmao

[abstract yacht]

wish pulling effects didnt disable you completely

[mystic elbow]

but if we are in pvp channel why would we even consider pve surya unless specifically stated

and her orb regen doesn't even matter in pve unless you're doing raids

[abstract yacht]

[mystic elbow]

the only thing you're using her orbs for in pve is for SA

which only rly matters in raids

and if u needed it in normal dungeons you'd just use mod and give yourself SA

compared to the other Aras who either need orbs to do their dmg skills

or need orbs in order to actually do dmg (shakti)

[empty ore]

Catastrophic Strike

[abstract yacht]

step 1: use super armor
step 2: your opponent is RH
step 3: he reawakened
step 4: pray he messes up
step 5: Tough luck, try again next time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006998502942982245/1076832728332386416/bandicam_2023-02-19_05-11-27-942.mp4

s i k e

[abstract yacht]

https://youtu.be/wxopO3ByNtM&t=93 but also S I K E

[noble pelican]

This was me today. I choked during my combos and died from one skill 🥲

I should record some matches so y’all can see my wacky Energy Drain build

[willow mural]

id love to see that

i always combo knowing full well im probably gonna get 1 shot 😂

[lavish socket]

I miss the old plasma shock so much man

😭

[oblique sundial]

Cata hurts so idc if I drop, 150k active go brr

[oblique sundial]

My poor oz didn't have that privilege though :(

[sacred niche]

That RH missing the Babymaker Strike feels satisfying 100% ngl.

[abstract yacht]

same
sad it was getting terrible due to the stun and the whole light resis shenanigans
though removing the stun wouldve just fixed it 100%

[abstract yacht]

babymaker sounds wrong when u consider his opponent was Laby 💀

[buoyant folio]

Haymaker

[dull forum]

https://www.twitch.tv/ledahthegrimangel king of the hill join for a chance for free kc stats off so everything oneshots so no gear required

:3

[oblique sundial]

lol

[warm hornet]

300,000 active?!?

[noble pelican]

Cerulean ambush build when?

☠️

[abstract yacht]

it has def ignore
it procs creeping terror
as an active it can also cause double atk
and if it hasnt been changed; CT has a dmg inc for back attacks

oh yah, ambush also has dmg inc on back hit by itself on top of the already existing passive

nvm the passive was changed but yah ambush still has its own back hit amp

and actually its def ignore is 100%
even on PvP

which is smth you do not see as much nowadays since skills with 100% most (if not all) were nerfed to 10-25%

[oblique sundial]

unfortunately im using my cerulean stuff for pve rn

whenever i get around to building tene, ill start using it

[oblique sundial]

people take practice rooms way too damn seriously lmao

[noble pelican]

No way

Must be trolling

Practice rooms are usually chill or have people who AFK with their sit motion

[oblique sundial]

usually i just oneshot her before she oneshots me

what is she gonna do, tank me? I have an ambush

[mystic elbow]

no they rly do

i got yelled at for mbing

[oblique sundial]

real

[willow mural]

tfw you tank an rh's devastating strike and win

https://tenor.com/view/actster-ofl-actster4hc-gif-26260486

[willow mural]

played 2s in spar just now

so stressful lol

[willow mural]

why do i always play aggro when i have the hp lead 😭

i should just sit and do nothing

[rich quail]

With that cracked managain and all the pause buffering that implies, I can only imagine that seeing any blue in your bar feels like you're holding hot coals.

[willow mural]

ur right im privileged

[rich quail]

I just think BH trains you to burn anything you get as fast as you can get it, since the value's almost guaranteed and it's very easy to regain lost MP.

[willow mural]

i wish i could turn off soul ignition when i awaken

i need to finish my alt bh anyways

[warm hornet]

i've tanked a devistating strike many time. but most of the time, i get caught after and lose.

[warm hornet]

and yea, that feeling is great.

[real viper]

is it just me or CE's dash atk is bad?
the >>ZX thingy

[empty ore]

1. Is a fast command
2. Does it have super armor

[real viper]

well, not fast, rather just decent?
it also doesn't have s.ar

probably not too related to pvp but whenever I use it off a platform, it just weird

cuz when she dash off a platform using that command, I noticed that she free falling unlike the ver of CU where it lift her up and forward

speaking of free falling, her aerial commands also weird as both of her commands lock her in the animation making her immobile after perform those (until touching the ground ofc)

[abstract yacht]

not that rare with dashing attacks

essentially there are dashes attack that when dashing through a platform corner
the move gets cancelled and u enter into free fall as if u just simply walked off the platform

the advantage to moves like that is you keep momentum of the attack's dash

ES' >>ZX also does this

some moves keep their course though, iirc Raven's >>X is one

then there are some oddities like DA's >>XX
you literally can still input the 2nd X despite the 1st X getting you off the platform
and DA will remain in the air, casting the 2nd X WITHOUT FALLING not even a slight bit and won't do so until the 2nd X finishes
its funny

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429448121911738369/1082629853997715576/bandicam_2023-03-07_06-37-41-720.mp4

then there's BlM

💢

I was robbed on the 2nd one 😭

[noble pelican]

“That was a warning”

taps

[sacred niche]

Ain on all class somewhat experience that on platforms too, but it launches you upwards when performing the >>^X or <<^X

afaik also at pressing Z I think.

[oblique sundial]

some buttons preserve momentum when theyre canceled, pretty much everyone has a way to do this

the most well known ones are probably mpx platform cancel and fb zzzx light tap

[oblique sundial]

kog is too ape brained to fix it so youre probably better off learning how to abuse it lul

[warm hornet]

compared to other characters dash attacks, yes.

Cons:

• Z hits a little slower than it visually shows and it gets worst on how big the lag is.

• if the lag is bad enough, the second hit of >>ZX will not hit and you'll just phase through your opponent to create a near 50/50 situation.

Pros:

• mashing >>Z covers more ground, faster than dashing
• performing >>ZX right before running of a ledge, the second hit will linger for another half-a second and you can act with a air dash/eve step.

[oblique sundial]

I love people that break asap

Like no joke or sarcasm, thank you for picking the wrong option

[noble pelican]

I’m not smart enough to time a good catch once people MB

Always cool to watch people do it correctly, though

[willow mural]

ikr
i can KINDA do it but only KINDA

i can recatch with fist but id have to predict if they roll or not

[real viper]

how is breaking asap a bad option

I think depend on situation that decide whether they should break asap or tank a bit

[oblique sundial]

Low resources vs high resources in elsword is a death sentence

Half the cast has a 100 mp delay/succ/giant circle/homing thing they can just throw out

[empty ore]

Theres a reason you're reccomended to break at 130 vs 100

[versed knot]

It depends on situation, depends on your other resources. Like you can insta break as an MPx if you're loaded up on DP bar, or you can awk and apollyon as Cat...etc. Or dont insta break when you're near a ledge

And usually you'd want to insta break if you have mp to spare after breaking to stop opponent from gaining any resources

[abstract yacht]

but then youre fighting that kind of class that if you let him hit you for that 130 mp

they already have 400

god I hate aras and aishas for that...

[real viper]

that's 1 of the main point
some classes can gain mp ridiculously fast if you let your guard down and tank their atk

but then again, it depend on certain situation

[oblique sundial]

If they gain mp fast then they're just gonna have 200 mp when you break

[real viper]

better than giving them 400 mp

[oblique sundial]

Barely

Is rather fight 400 with 100 than 200 with 0

[real viper]

like this for example ^

well it's my personal opinion

it's always harder for you the more mp they have

[oblique sundial]

It's also harder the less mp you have

[real viper]

idk why he/she refuse to mp break

[oblique sundial]

some people just dont want to play the game

[real viper]

tho regardless of how fast mp gain, it's impossible to gain 200 mp with against mp breaking imo

[oblique sundial]

ive seen fbs hit like 300 ngl

[real viper]

hard to believe...
unless you tank for a long time

[mystic elbow]

Ngl I’d rather have like 200 mp and they have 400 than me have 0 and they have 200

But with some characters its rly they do too much dmg

• getting ridiculous mp

[buoyant folio]

Ya

[real viper]

Then again, I would say it depend on situation

Most of things have it own reason to decide what to do

[warm hornet]

and thus i make my tank build, expecting i'll lose neutral.

and then use a health gimmick as my damage.

[real viper]

Like I'm seeing a FL awk up near me, I'd instant break rather than tanking it

[warm hornet]

I can tank FL to an extent because they nerfed her magic defense reduction.

but i'm glorifed gear check anyways (CE)

[real viper]

But their mp gain as an elesis is not something to underestimate imo

[buoyant folio]

On the other hand

breaking will never matter bc your opponent has mana burning

[willow mural]

the soul ignition awk is a double edged sword

on one hand free catches

on another mp feeding

also i think the reason why people dont insta break is cuz they want to get more mana AND because theyre predicting the one shot

like sometimes someone will wait til their bars full till they cast their skill

if its an rh, i dont break immediately, but i can predict the ballpark range where hes gonna devastating strike me =V

[warm hornet]

i ride for those.

[celest ore]

yeah i agree, you can get a feel for when people are about to hit you with somethin big

but just in general having no mp is very bad

worst thing that can happen is you wait and then time the mb so badly you lose it all anyway ☠️

[willow mural]

yeah

the amount of times i let that happen

cuz i just forget that dude is also getting hella resources outta this

[celest ore]

lol true

[knotty kraken]

then theres me causally sitting around 300-400mp for most of the match forgetting i have skills

GAME PLEASE

WTH

game just 'no responced' me in the middle of the match

[willow mural]

I WAS SO CLOSE TO BEATING THIS KE

IM MAKING SO MANY BAD MOVES

im giving myself a hernia

[glass echo]

Yeahh Nocturn of Hernia I know that item!

🙂

[willow mural]

i got him

[fiery lion]

benisputter has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[willow mural]

WHAT

https://tenor.com/view/lets-goo-gif-21295281

[buoyant folio]

QUE

[noble pelican]

This is a good tip for me. I just instabreak ‘cause my skin’s made of paper

Would be smart as an Aisha to, you know, have MP left

🥲

[noble pelican]

If you have cool combos, some people just let ya keep going until you drop

I’ve done that for some people until I reach half-or-so health ‘cause it’s fun to watch 👍🏼

Me when I see Elbois reverse x drop:

[mystic elbow]

Aisha is kinda ok to insta break cuz she charges for mana

But u dont play traditional aisha so it’ll be different for u

[abstract yacht]

Mp burning chars
and characters with really LOW mp feeding attacks that feed the user a lot more:

take for example MtM
1 of her ^^Z gives you like
what
3 MP
but gives her about 10

also iirc she gets mp gain with magical make up
so up that 10 to like idk 15 or smth
good freaking luck dealing with that.

Aisha's regular X spam despite previous nerf still feeds her more than it does to the opponent

Chung's ZZZX as an opponent gives like 4-7 per Z
but the X only gives you about 20-35

while for Chung himself it gives him 6-10 per Z and about 80 for the X
2 ZZZX and you already are in the 200s while just barely giving enough to mb to the opponent

BlM is a funny one too

because not only does she gets a good mp and hardly feeds any
she also [bleep]s on your HP while you still dont even have the sufficient mp to break

biggest offender

DyB
who has like 5 MP gain passives
on top of an active that makes her projectiles COST NONE
and iirc also gets mp gain from NF system.

yeah, get hit once and she'll be in her 300-400s.

and CeT too
who has a (although nerfed) mp gain increase on attacking opponents with commander's mark
making chung's base ZZZX even more stupid on him.

so
opposite to what you said,
it is actuallt far too common that it happens because the mp gain the user gains vs who they are beating is horribly disbalanced in a lot of characters

[heavy spear]

as cata i dont feel particularly reliant on mana for catching and thus i usually feel comfortable breaking early

inno and dem were a different story :)

[abstract yacht]

https://youtu.be/u_DlyWrELiA?si=LjLZYzifbQi0RssG&t=54

I timestamped it, if on phone click the link directly instead of preview for timestamp to work
this was before chung's ZZZX was nerfed and before CeT's mp gain when attacking marked opponents got nerfed
but this horrendous gain still happens to these days, not as stupid as the video but you get the point.

[mystic elbow]

[abstract yacht]

FL does feed some MP in contrast
DyB is kinda...
I barely can reach mb and she already full
n a n i
||we also dont speak of res decrease + freezing arrow... ||

I've never had issues having a disparity in mp vs FB personally
idk

at most Ive seen FB with about 250 by the time I can mb
doesnt seem as insane

[mystic elbow]

FL w/ awk feeds but w/o not rly

[oblique sundial]

god demersio sucks

like yeah they could be broke but they do negative damage so nah

like i got a +11 why is a +9 void laby doing as much damage as me

this is dumb

im jcing i cant stand this lmao

[mystic elbow]

? Werent u just cata

U jc’d back to dem just to jc off?

[oblique sundial]

i was dem for like three days

im inno now :D

honestly i think i just hate rose players

"shes not op!!!" proceeds to do something op

[mystic elbow]

The rose downplay is INSANE

😭

Girl go back to dem and do stages ..

Or sell me kc

[oblique sundial]

i have like 900kc left

and nah like how are you gonna claim kd issues when your normals do 80k a piece

she kds after like 10 hits!!!! who cares?

theyre dead after 8??????

like this is elementary school math my guy but hey ig that makes sense

dont need a brain to play her lul

[mystic elbow]

Load up another $10

[oblique sundial]

maam

[mystic elbow]

You get money out of it

[oblique sundial]

i refuse to open up that god forsaken website again

i get money out of a lot of things smh

[mystic elbow]

🥺

Puh-leasee

Rose is another char with OD mp gain

Specifically on Musket

[oblique sundial]

i just really dont wantto spend another $10 on this game

it causes me physical pain every time i do

[mystic elbow]

Isok

[celest ore]

rose is crazy

all of em

[oblique sundial]

optimus wouldnt be that bad if mp drain builds didnt exist

but they do and kog has made it pretty clear that theyre never going to change

[celest ore]

tbf idk how optimus would work without it

broken character

[oblique sundial]

she wouldnt

shed feed 8000 mp in .2 seconds because shes terribly designed

shed probably be like bottom 3 if attributes didnt exist

tbf dem would probably do the same thing if corrupted wave worked

[celest ore]

shes the purest definition of a broken character