#pvp

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mystic elbow
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whats wrong with it NessA

hollow hound
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Nothing. XD
It's just cool. IIlllIlllII

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Don't kill me. 😢

mystic elbow
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bc of the barcode hackers i've been accused of being a hacker so often

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in reality I jus didn't feel like ppl whispering me

oblique sundial
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How many times have people gone through the trouble just to salt you

mystic elbow
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jus once

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i dont play on this ara often

abstract yacht
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on the bright side you get used to it that one can get a grasp on how to combo with that lag

mystic elbow
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no 💜

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when it comes to comboing im already used to it

abstract yacht
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the disadvantage is whiffing some attacks on purpose, not gain mana to connect on his client

mystic elbow
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but OP is nowhere near a godtier which makes it fightable

gentle trench
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Oh hey that was you 😄

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Gg ^^

mystic elbow
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Yea im the ara on the mass amount of copium bc I cant class change

oblique sundial
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i already play your game kog go away

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and give me a jc so i can play dem again

willow mural
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It's telling you to play rose

gentle trench
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XD

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I hate how aisha can restore mana in obtenebration and clock thats just too unfair ;-;

glass echo
glass echo
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Good one, KoG

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Real summer adventure you got

gentle trench
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ZayZay313 is so toxic omg

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This genesis guy fakes afk

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Then uses it as a fake catch

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Then brags about it

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🤢

hollow hound
gentle trench
# hollow hound 📝

Fair I shouldn’t let it get so on my nerves, but thats just the most nastiest way to secure a win… Im not even blaming him for playing GS :/

mystic elbow
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Jus kill em

hollow hound
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Nah, it's okay. I will just keep in mind that nickname.

gentle trench
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Didn’t get a rematch

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Oh I thought u were roasting me for writing a bunch of text 😂

hollow hound
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Noup.

gentle trench
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Hahaha

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My bad xD

hollow hound
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It was like "taking notes" for my future matches.

gentle trench
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Gotcha!

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Yeah definitely dont wait for him when he looks afk 😔

mystic elbow
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Never wait

gentle trench
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I guess ur right

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Ever since reaching SS people also dont want to be my friends anymore

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:c

hollow hound
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Remembering this.

gentle trench
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Uhhh indeed

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Imagine flagging people

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Worst personality trait there is tbh

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Today I had one guy that I won 3x in a row from, he did flag me all 3 times. But honestly he was the better player doing infinites on a KE so I didn’t mind it that much

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I even whispered him that he was good and if he had some tips for me for when I fight KE

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But he ignored me sadly

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But after I beat him the last time I sent a friend request and he did accept it ^^ so maybe we will do some sparring some day

glass echo
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Just keep in mind some people might not notice when they get whispers

oblique sundial
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i think i should just alt f4 vs 4th jobs and labys tbh

dusk dock
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Real

dusk dock
hollow hound
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Good, stronk.

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Btw, I need help with something. I have a friend that recently returned to Elsword and he doesn't know what forces (pasives and actives) should he maximize first for pvp. Is there a particular priorization order? What do you recommend?
He is a Centurion, btw, if that helps a bit.

empty ore
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Hyper Accel, Illipia, Obtene

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These three should be worked on first i,o

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Then haunting, buy an elite or better ignite.

mystic elbow
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In terms of henir runs fog -> el’s aspiration-> clock (optional)

celest ore
willow mural
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ive done this a couple of times because im trying to multitask and not paying attention

dusk dock
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Be me who really doesn't like hyper accel anymore

hollow hound
mystic elbow
dusk dock
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I get free speed from just not having 200DP

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Why would I waste a slot for more speed

mystic elbow
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t r u

sonic mortar
oblique sundial
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ill flag if your oneshot gets blocked by eclipse tbh

solid socket
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Honestly flagging just feels like overcompensation imho

solid socket
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ngl tho sometimes i wonder if i should take pvp seriously again 😔 nowadays i just do my guild quest and dip

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but also pvping on nyx almost makes me feel mean bc i chunk 50% of someone's hp if they dont clock for like 100 mp

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its like i wanna take pvp seriously but i dont have nearly enough of almost everything for it

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honestly not sure where id even start for building things for it

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aside from the mpr, which i already have

mystic elbow
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I'd have to look at your gear and tell u what u need

solid socket
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i can already name off the fact that my 5/5 is like rly bad because it isnt one because im poor along with my accs but... past that im not exactly sure stat wise

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and the petri issue which makes me think i wont try much til i go mo because i need petri for pve as nyx

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hmm lemme

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where are u ingame i can come to u if ur on

mystic elbow
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I already logged off for the night :(

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Ill look tmrw

solid socket
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o thats fine

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i cant use custom emotes here so pretend i sent a pat emote 😔

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not custom emotes but non server emotes

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or did that server just die for a bit

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oh... my nitro died wth

mystic elbow
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Nvm i gotta log in again

solid socket
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oh

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ur likely already logged off and i was tabbed out ngl

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but i alr swapped out of my pvp setup too

mystic elbow
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Yay.

mystic elbow
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? @empty ore did you delete your message

cyan pine
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rip[

mystic elbow
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rip indeed

dusk dock
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finally beat my quene demon (It was 4th path Laby)

oblique sundial
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got called a lagger and got off

abstract yacht
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NAAAAH wdym haunting proc'd a Lv1 Plague and killed her 💀

dusk dock
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truly is an Elsword moment

rich quail
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@mystic elbow Sorry. Got too triggered fighting Blue Thing to say. It's nice to see you on Shakti again. o/

mystic elbow
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😭 😭 😭

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it be like that

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it's okay

dusk dock
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sigh

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why is Laby such a pain to fight against

dusk dock
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Real

mystic elbow
dusk dock
mystic elbow
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surely.

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nerfed hitboxes

dusk dock
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like I'm fine with the usual class domination

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like AD and GS atm

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but when it comes to Laby

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it's more of a core character flaw that never gets addressed

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too much going on

mystic elbow
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GS is just sword laby

oblique sundial
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I just want to know why every new class can fly

mystic elbow
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and AD is arguably more impossible to fight than Laby

dusk dock
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I would actually prefer current AD over any Laby

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because at least they will touch the ground eventually

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GS is just a gimmick fr. Similar tools and magical DPS but so

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uh

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backwards?

mystic elbow
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even if AD touches the ground u not touching AD

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💀

dusk dock
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you right

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they touching us instead

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pause

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cuz backward lingering hitboxes somehow went thru QA

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like Laby

glass echo
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Bad game Elsword bad game

oblique sundial
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you said the same thing three times

abstract yacht
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GS is just a gimmick``` 
[Mod] Persistent Rush: ***what Gimmick***
dusk dock
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Just another overpowered move that doesn't really add anything to the meta only to test the waters of how broken they can make a move before outrage makes them balance the move out of relevancy.

abstract yacht
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Idk how much they have to test when this is like the 3rd time they do quite an identical move kekpoint

dusk dock
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yeah idk why they keep doing this

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but it just works i guess????

hollow hound
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Ahhhh, S rank where salt is almost everywhere. :(

dusk dock
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SS is Seasoned Salt then

hollow hound
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Wait, is SS worse?

dusk dock
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i mean

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based on my knowlegde as SS is my home, we aren't as salty but we are seasoned enough veterans of the salt to just do bad manners throught advanced means

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besides flagging and whispers

mystic elbow
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I rarely get whispered in SS 🤔

solid socket
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i get whispered a couple times in ss ngl

abstract yacht
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Hasn't PvP in a month due to PC down
gets PC back
PvPs again
placed S rank ( sleep )
gets match instantly
ranks up to SS
literally queue dies

abstract yacht
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Literally what do you do against such a big sized, practically unmbable, lingers longer than an awakening and
looks again
Apparently with the cost of a Strength skill
Just accept death if u got no elri clock/esc button thisisfine

oblique sundial
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You're supposed to start maining aether sage

pastel creek
abstract yacht
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who?

empty ore
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Music ig

mystic elbow
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ngl i would've been pre breaking there

abstract yacht
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Idk I just play this vid of 6hrs long that is 99 bgms of touhou
I recognize touhou and some of its music but idk the thousands of characters of it so uhhh terrifine

real viper
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Most of the time, those whisper saying I'm laggy but playing on INT long enough, it's like a daily dose of arena on INT already

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I once got whispered saying "gear carried" when I was using FP with void +10

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Quite funny

dusk dock
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BRO

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I WAS IN THE SAME BOAT

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I was so confused when I legit got called gear carried as a mere +10 FoJ

real viper
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Just ignore, always work

dusk dock
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You already know

real viper
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Once I travelled to NA for arena, i brought the INT specialty and a certain RV was being salty at it but I just leave him enjoying it

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He's totally capable to take the win as my char barely have anything useful for sparring aside from the duelist set

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That was fun

mystic elbow
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I don’t get whispered

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💤

dusk dock
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I be doing the whispering

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But with good intentions

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One time I legit asked if they were having fun

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They said no and logged off

real viper
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Whisper him @dusk dock

dusk dock
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Truly one of the Elsword PvP moments of all time

dusk dock
mystic elbow
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There’s no character in the game that is fun to fight sorry

dusk dock
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Is it because there is always a gimmick to every class

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Some more than others

mystic elbow
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Yeah for the most part

real viper
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Fun char to fight against is when the char is counterable imo

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Telling me to fight against CA or AD or most of other 4th path char are just...

dusk dock
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4th paths in general

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Classic Elsword fr

real viper
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I probably can handle most char that isn't 4th path

mystic elbow
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It’s also boring bc I know what to expect from every single character

abstract yacht
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what doing PvP for several years does to an els player

mystic elbow
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1s pvp*

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I needa get into 2s

dusk dock
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Same

oblique sundial
empty ore
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Mood

hollow hound
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Question, what is the purpose of flagging after a match?

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Just curious.

willow mural
hollow hound
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Lollll.

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Hahhahaha.

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People is just too childish sometimes.

clever sigil
oblique sundial
mystic elbow
hollow hound
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"I know what to expect from every single character" I want to know what do you expect from every character because I am curious about it.

mystic elbow
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oh

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i gotta make a list 😭

oblique sundial
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Laby: fly around and never commit to anything

empty ore
hollow hound
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CA: fly around and spam zxx.

mystic elbow
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yea

hollow hound
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IM: Gain mana and cast Sword Fall.

mystic elbow
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in higher(ish) ranks I expect CA to clock me out actually

oblique sundial
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tbf you can say "fly around" for half of the new classes

empty ore
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High tier laby is more like

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Move around with insane mobility to catch then combo until your opponent breaks and you have 200mp

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Oki to death

hollow hound
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DA: Gain mana to cast Holy Declaration.

heavy spear
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dem: so as i pray, unlimited combination gauge works

hollow hound
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GN: Ufiwjfidkxnd, SA, Persistent Rush, osbfisnxosn.

oblique sundial
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Dia: please God don't let me lose this trade I just used bloodlust

heavy spear
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AD: literally just. do anything

oblique sundial
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Cata: this active is going to do more than your entire kit

hollow hound
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FP: Bullet Blitz Frenzy.

hollow hound
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Ok I guess CL is a problem.

abstract yacht
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Always been

hollow hound
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D:

abstract yacht
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feel kinda sorry for a CS I just fought

hollow hound
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Why?

abstract yacht
hollow hound
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Ohno.

abstract yacht
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We want to prevent running away using the character's mobility.

In the case of some PvP maps with high ceilings, the ceiling position has been lowered.
To further prevent the act of holding out or running away while recovering mana, the duration or effectiveness of certain buffs like Meditation, Natal Chart and White Hat has been lowered.
We have also increased the MP cost of commands that let you cheese in air for long.```_I still don't think this is enough to stop stalling_
abstract yacht
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oh so they did nerf it
thank god

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eh... 3k
it's still strong

real viper
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there are skills that has less % total dmg than that but still hit like a truck tho

abstract yacht
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to me
3k is the minimun bar for when a skill becomes a nuke skill

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because all skills that reach 3k can take half your HP at minimum

empty ore
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Eh 2.5k really

hollow hound
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When does that patch is coming to NA?

empty ore
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Next week

gentle trench
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Is not having a guild a big disadvantage?

willow mural
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you lose out on free stats (more phys/mag atk, awk charge, boss dmg, farming pages w exp/idr, pvp pages, etc etc), guild farm (onions, bulky carrot juice, heavenly desert)

gentle trench
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But for pvp the stats also count?

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Or only the pvp page?

empty ore
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Only the pvp page. I think that other page with the buffs is dungeon only.

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Another important thing you miss out on 10% mp gain attack/attacked. Which is like +1 extra mp to your attacks

gentle trench
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Oh thats quite something

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And I guess the pvp page is good too?

dusk dock
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Yes

hollow hound
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PvP is dead right now.

dusk dock
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The week before the culling

willow mural
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any other fun title ideas

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apparently rekindled feeds like crazy

mystic elbow
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yea rekindled feeds

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what titles have we gave u total?

willow mural
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most of these

mystic elbow
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did u already get maya title

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this one seems interesting

abstract yacht
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I've never valued eclipse as a top tier title tbh

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simply because it's easily countered by undying flame

mystic elbow
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that's not all there is to eclipse tho

abstract yacht
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sure there's dmg reduction

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but like, GoE also has defense increase and FS has dmg red as well

willow mural
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something more cmd based would be cool

abstract yacht
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while having more offensive things than Eclipse

mystic elbow
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the reason its up there is cuz of the dmg red saving ppl from literal nukes

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you're FL ben

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wdfm

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cmd dmg

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😭

willow mural
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i love it 😭

mystic elbow
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go AD/BQ at this point

willow mural
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ew

mystic elbow
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did u actually try rekindled

knotty kraken
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king of destruction

mystic elbow
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if this means you'll KD ppl faster then thats kinda funny

willow mural
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i can try it again ig

mystic elbow
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oh

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well if u already tried it then id

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idk*

willow mural
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ill try renowned hero

knotty kraken
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god of dimensions

abstract yacht
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@willow mural were you lagging or was I?

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you weren't exactly moving smoothly but I can't tell if it was my doing or yours

willow mural
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nah i aint laggin

abstract yacht
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MioHuh probably me then

willow mural
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didnt look like u were

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nvm i think u are

dusk dock
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@willow mural you're fine

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remind me to stop using my DP combos

willow mural
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yeah im doing swell

hollow hound
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@dusk dock Your punches hurt. ;_;
Ora, ora, ora.

dusk dock
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nah

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they suck

willow mural
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remind me to stop wasting so much mana

dusk dock
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like me

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yeah idk why you keep doing that firewall

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when im nowhere near you for oki pressure

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that range is insane

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i knew it was coming too

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scaldic sword or something like that

willow mural
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maybe i should replace firewall

dusk dock
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with what tho

willow mural
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pillar

hollow hound
dusk dock
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trust me

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they will suck fr

willow mural
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dude casted supersonic while i was knocked down

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instead of going behind him i go in front and he catches me with the last hit skulltilt

abstract yacht
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oh you were the DB TeriDerp

hollow hound
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@abstract yacht XD

dusk dock
hollow hound
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LOLLLLL.

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How can she heal like that, I can't.

dusk dock
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Eve stuffs

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idk

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i think it's their special action

hollow hound
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Ohno.

mystic elbow
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how are all of u in queue when im not

hollow hound
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I am waiting.

dusk dock
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misinput @willow mural

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gg tho

mystic elbow
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Holy f my ears

abstract yacht
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why are my attacks like... ghosting is the term? like, even from my screen too

dusk dock
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i got the clip but idk

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maybe ill DM it so you can see what I see

mystic elbow
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Ghosting?

abstract yacht
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idk if that's the term

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but like

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it's hitting on the opponent side, but the thing is, it's not just "ah I don't see it in my screen" but actually "why is it there"

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so you know DA's >>^XZ throws a bubble right?

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that costs a cannonball

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I'm tossing >>^XZ with EMPTY cannonballs

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but somehow

mystic elbow
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Oh

abstract yacht
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it's still there on the opponent's side

mystic elbow
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Might be storage

abstract yacht
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but I don't have cannonballs, huh???

mystic elbow
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Like are u doing the command and it comes out later?

dusk dock
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based client sided game storage fr

abstract yacht
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it doesn't come out at all on my screen cuz I have no cannonballs, I get the no ammo animation

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but somehow the bubble still appears on their side as I see them taking hits

dusk dock
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game thinks you aint shooting blanks

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you are locked and loaded fr

mystic elbow
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U broke the game Bruhge

abstract yacht
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it happened a lot of times against this RV

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and once to Ben

mystic elbow
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Its RV so he probably deserves it

dusk dock
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idk about Ben tho

mystic elbow
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Ben refuses to play actual cmd dmg characters so he also deserves it

fiery lionBOT
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dekomlev has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

dusk dock
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LOL

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godlike, did the clip I DM seem okay or sus?

abstract yacht
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like if I had cannonballs and the bubble showed up and he wouldn't take hits, I can understand that can be client side with lag or latency
but the complete opposite of me not having cannonballs yet him still taking damage?

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this is the first time such thing happens to me

dusk dock
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like just today or?

abstract yacht
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yeah today, literally first time experiencing this interaction

abstract yacht
dusk dock
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no

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the "cannonball ghosting"

dusk dock
abstract yacht
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oh nah the first thing that happens in the video was because of ricochet lingering, that one Ik why you got hit

dusk dock
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i mean

abstract yacht
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that case is the usual >get cancelled >but hitbox still comes out

dusk dock
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i just rewatched it and it looks fine to me

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its just me using my escape late during the nuke tbh

abstract yacht
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no bubbles, I get the no cannonball animation, nothing weird happens, makes sense, I ran out of cannonballs so yeah

dusk dock
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maybe its because of the quick usage succession

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the game can't seem to keep up with how many you actually have

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and just assumes you have enough for the command

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which shouldn't be the case at all

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but it just happens

abstract yacht
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If that were to be the case then it needs fixing because it's so weird blurriest

dusk dock
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or

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keep it hush

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and abuse it fr

abstract yacht
willow mural
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the fact that infernal does so much dmg even with a +10 void

mystic elbow
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Doesnt it ignore defense

willow mural
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yeah a base amount

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hold on does demonic eye and frost queen stack

mystic elbow
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if it says (not overlapped) then no they dont

willow mural
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just say does not stack w abyssal incense

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which doesnt make any sense cuz they take up the same slot??

hollow hound
dusk dock
hollow hound
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?

mystic elbow
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i just got hit with a 70k command

willow mural
dusk dock
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had to mash conq fr

willow mural
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wair r u the barcode ara

mystic elbow
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this annoying rose

hollow hound
mystic elbow
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yes

hollow hound
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Ikr.

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I ♥️ Kladur.

dusk dock
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im friends with that Rose

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they nice

hollow hound
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Yeah.

mystic elbow
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I thought I fought them more often but maybe on my other ara

empty ore
mystic elbow
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@willow mural i rly almost lost off of not having undying

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and now i lost off of not having dmg

willow mural
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wut u got instead of undying

mystic elbow
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MR bot

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this an alt so i dont wanna go through the trouble of getting raid acc

abstract yacht
willow mural
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oooh

abstract yacht
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because it's a debuff and you can have someone with insence and other with eye in the party

willow mural
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thank gj

abstract yacht
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and yes, it does stack with 13-4 accessory

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but it would only stack the attack speed

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because demonic eye does NOT reduce defense in PvP

mystic elbow
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considering just getting a void weap

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but it might make this alt too strong

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ok but SA punishing ppl

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is too funny

willow mural
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finally got that devi 😡

abstract yacht
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this is hilarious coming from a TP

mystic elbow
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ngl that sentence didn't even make sense

abstract yacht
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she's basically complaining for the fact that I one shot her with multi headshot

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"hurhurr they always make BlM broken"

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sweetie have you seen your own Rawr skill?

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and the thousands of toy commands u have

mystic elbow
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Well

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BlM is broken

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TP is just

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more broken

willow mural
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this devi can kick rocks

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but i can beat her

abstract yacht
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Ik BlM is, but like sire you're playing TP lmaocry

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also singling BlM like "that class"

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sweetie, you know almost every class in the game can one shot, right? FlareWheeze

celest ore
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tp is fundamentally broken

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blm is broken because kog forgot about her and didn't fix the damage

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very different types of broken

rich quail
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Rose is the least played character in NA’s SSS+ bracket. I have to imagine it’s a similar situation for her in KR. Even if she does have big scaling, she probably doesn’t have enough representation to be seen as a problem character that needs nerfing.

gentle trench
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I literally used artillery nova 4x in a match they all landed and I still didnt kill her 😂🤦🏻‍♂️ no way

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Is that new 4th eve super tanky or something? Never had anyone taking less then 50% hp so far, and it was just SS

gentle trench
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I think so yeah

hollow hound
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So, you fought a super tanky rank SS CA.

gentle trench
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Yeah, is that normal?

knotty kraken
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imma start stacking mod mont blanc

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to see if it one shots people

abstract yacht
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it wont.

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Mod has much worse hitbox spreading than regular

knotty kraken
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i learned i can do 4 hits with mod off a setup combo 💀

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only does about half the damage of thunder tho

oblique sundial
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Not everyone can have insane neutral command damage and a nuke ig

mystic elbow
dull forum
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@willow mural try wind 4 FL with shadows

dull forum
gentle trench
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My current guild seems to be dying, I might join if it happens

dull forum
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U good

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:j

gentle trench
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Oh that sounds pretty good

willow mural
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ay Ye captain

gentle trench
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How does mad paradox tp in my artillery nova? 😵‍💫

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Oh he says all adds can do that

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Damn crazy, since I think its non mana breakable

mystic elbow
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Huh

gentle trench
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I shot a MP with my artillery nova and he teleported out, didnt get any noticeable damage either

mystic elbow
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Like esc skill?

gentle trench
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Idk if add has a special esc skill

#

But he teleported to the other side of the map, might be adds escape skill?

mystic elbow
#

well he has esc skill and a base active that lets him do that

#

to get out of nova w/ the active would be kinda hard tho 🤔

#

he'd have to have read u, hard.

gentle trench
#

Damn I see

#

He was an SSS so I bet he did that haha

#

Pog just killed a genesis whilr he fog’d me

#

With artillery nova 😂 looked super epic in slow motion

#

He was also super far away and my HP was low, was my final trick up my sleeve hahaha

willow mural
#

how do people do that elesis x sweep super fast

mystic elbow
#

fast fingers

rocky stone
lucid plinth
#

they turn into super sonic with a sword. owob

empty ore
gentle trench
abstract yacht
#

if it was the phase shift activr thats just a massive read
unless he used phase shift mid hit then that's probably lag/latency

glass echo
#

I thought nova follows you if you get hit even if you escape skill it

abstract yacht
#

it does

but you're still in iframes while escaping

a lot of ticks are missed during that period

glass echo
#

Can't relate, honestly

gentle trench
#

OMG VOS DROP!

gentle trench
abstract yacht
#

wait wait wait

#

did u open it already???

gentle trench
abstract yacht
#

rip xD

gentle trench
#

Why? Q_Q

abstract yacht
#

an update recently hit KR and is coming to NA soon where weps drop +9 by default

#

and it affects boxes that u dropped before said patch

gentle trench
#

Oh damn I see

mystic elbow
gentle trench
#

Ty 😭!!!

#

Do I try for 3x phys att lvl?

mystic elbow
#

no

#

arent u jus gonna go get ran weap anyway

abstract yacht
#

thats only for whales

gentle trench
#

I thought about it but I guess I skip

abstract yacht
#

the 3x thing I meant

gentle trench
#

What lines are keep?

mystic elbow
#

you'll still have to at least +10 that weapon

#

u need 2 phys lines

gentle trench
#

Yeah I prob drop a +11 on it

mystic elbow
#

and preferably dmg red, hp or some other good

#

pvp stat

#

just anything but awk duration

#

rly

abstract yacht
#

awk duration and charge
since u're CC u get a bead straight up for landing a special active lol

mystic elbow
#

awk charge is fine

#

awk duration is a no

abstract yacht
#

for him awk charge doesnt serve a purpose

cuz CC can get 3 beads without even thinking about it

#

he gets a whole aah bead just for using special actives

#

one burst wolf can be 1 bead immediately

gentle trench
#

XD

mystic elbow
#

alrriight..

#

then ig anything other than awk charge n awk duration

gentle trench
#

I keep getting double mag ;-;

#

Even with a hp line

abstract yacht
#

game tells u to become FP

mystic elbow
#

the game knows what u want

#

and does the opposite.

#

common occurence

gentle trench
mystic elbow
#

thats good enough

gentle trench
#

Not super lucky but I guess its a keep

mystic elbow
#

low phys attk but its w/e

abstract yacht
#

nice
aspd

gentle trench
#

What to get with red blue yellow?

burnt jungle
#

if u mean mystic enchant, the most optimal one is the same as pve ones

#

since ur a phys class, go for phys

gentle trench
#

Power or level?

mystic elbow
#

red power

#

blue level

#

wait

#

thats wrong

#

red level

#

blue power

#

yellow power

burnt jungle
#

red - lvl
blue - %
yellow - % or crit dmg (difference can be minimal)
giant - combination of the two

mystic elbow
#

dont do crit dmg

#

crit dmg is a nerfed stat

gentle trench
#

6% at giant is max?

gentle trench
#

I use crit dmg on my sparring gear tho, yasu told me to

mystic elbow
#

yea on sparring its not nerfed

#

on weapon, costumes and titles

burnt jungle
mystic elbow
#

its a nerfed stat

#

no in general

#

its a nerfed stat

#

in pvp

gentle trench
#

Gotcha

#

Good to know 😮

#

So %>lvl

burnt jungle
#

red - lvl

#

giant - combination

mystic elbow
#

red lvl
blue %
yellow %
giant % and/or lvl

gentle trench
#

Giant neither prefered?

#

I got 3x 6lvl

burnt jungle
#

the difference is minimal anyway

#

so getting 3x lvl is fine

gentle trench
#

Oki 😄

#

Then I can get lvl for yellow aswell?

burnt jungle
#

% is better

mystic elbow
#

% is better yea

burnt jungle
#

lvl scales with weapon enhancement lvl

gentle trench
#

So for +11?

#

All my yellow is lvl ;-;

#

I guess I reroll for %, but I guess I might aswell do giant then aswell

#

And the imprint? 🤔

gentle trench
#

When attacking enemies with 40% or higher

28% to

For 5sec additional damage 10%?

#

Does it stack? Like can I get that 3x?

dusk dock
#

@gentle trench gz

#

Should have waited a while to open it tho

abstract yacht
# burnt jungle if u mean the abyss mystic stones, i understand that

somewhere around the year of 2018 they made various stats, given through titles and equipments; be only 40% effective in PvP

those stats were MPR, CDR, ASD and Crit dmg
thats why Mystics crt dmg is less effective in PvP

Duelist set is an exception to this effectiveness, but that's also why Duelist provides little %s by default instead

#

Dunno if sockets were affected tho

mystic elbow
empty ore
#

Imprints are super unnoticeable.

#

ANd tbh i wouldnt even mess with them till next week

#

cause its gonna go from 2.5m>1.6m

gentle trench
#

Oh nice

gentle trench
#

Do you guys just rock the noble duelist suit? And is that 1% asd like sparring gear or is it nerfed stat too?

gentle trench
#

Oh is the max from the giant stone 5 for % and 6 for lvl?

mystic elbow
#

Yea

#

In pvp its preferred to get a defense type costume suit

#

Those’ll have HP and Dmg red stats

gentle trench
#

Gotcha

#

Any specific one with a high amount?

mystic elbow
#

Theres a halloween costume that has like 10k HP on it n some amount of Dmg Red

warm hornet
#

survivability is always nice. especially if you lose neutral in most fights.

abstract yacht
marsh plume
#

mostly bc it adds up w/ other non socket sources

empty ore
#

Halloween costume, Harmony suit, that oatmilk costume suit?

#

All good choices that can be wardrobed

gentle trench
#

Ty!

#

Oatmeal looks OP

#

But 3b? 😂

willow mural
#

sounds like a scam

pastel creek
#

What pvp skill do i stack for demersio

pastel creek
#

Is CEs secretly nuts at pvp or is it my armor

#

I mean IB

#

or did i queue with bad players

oblique sundial
#

Ce is the middest of mid

pastel creek
#

🥹🥹🥹

willow mural
#

til: fire wall can block mystique

empty ore
#

I miss old distortion

willow mural
#

i hate revenant blobsob

#

help me guys

pastel creek
#

Pvp is bringing the single worst emotions out of me i didnt even know i had

dusk dock
#

Lowley glad the nerfs made me stop doing PvP fr as a Doom Bringer

abstract yacht
gentle trench
#

Kms just wasted like a bil on making 2/4 crimson r9 and r5 to gain some CP vs my r9 2/4 sage set and its literally 10k less CP 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

#

Absolute waste of resources and money, dont think that 3% crit damage is gonna add a whole lot

#

Im kinda cucked tho now, 1.3m CP on S1 VoS, doubt S2 will give me what I need to enter berthe :c

#

I can still do imprint, besides that I dont really have any options apart from dropping a +10/+11 on my VoS, but I rather wait for enhance event next month I guess :/

oblique sundial
#

Just raw tap it 5head

gentle trench
#

?

rich quail
gentle trench
#

So uhhh, I got S2 VoS but my CP dips to 1.3m. Can I enter with my Void and then swap for VoS and does the clear count? 😅

#

I can enter sanctuary of the soul with 1M CP and void and then equip VoS, guess it works?

gentle trench
#

Rip doesnt count 😥

willow mural
gentle trench
#

I reequipped right at the start

#

So enter and instantly swap to VoS

willow mural
#

ah

#

F

gentle trench
#

:c

empty ore
abstract yacht
#

Im sure its always been like that since the start
the one who gets to be done by swapping before boss dying is just SoA and iirc thats only for s4 and s5 (or perhaps is just SoA as a whole but VoS has always been equip it at all times)

empty ore
#

I specifially remember ppl running dungeons with their foj. Swapping to VoS at the end and still counting

hollow hound
#

Is RV good for pvp?

pastel creek
#

Yes apparent

#

ly

#

One of the best

abstract yacht
#

one of the most cancerous ones

#

💀

#

the fact that they removed the SA off AD's dive yet didnt do anything to RV's >>^XXX is just-
sleep

empty ore
#

Alot of classes shoulda been tapped

#

Lookin at you PH and Dab

echo phoenix
abstract yacht
#

they don't

#

cover an entire screen in doing so

#

nor do they have thicc hitboxes that are also multi hit that also linger for a whole second
all in one input

#

they also don't keep momentum to move forward either nor can use the last input at any point after dashing, making it really hard to punish

echo phoenix
#

like might be better idea if just remove mid air SA commands.

mystic elbow
#

Cata’s is easier for classes to deal with

#

So much more avoidable and isnt completely unpunishable

solid socket
#

pvping against add rly is just a game of cat and mouse

#

actually there's a lot of chars like that

#

😔

sacred niche
#

Man, whoever that mpx I fought 3~4 hours ago in the arena, sorry I forgot your name but absolute respect to you man, you're probably the only Add that I had fun to fight with all those win/lose trades.

celest ore
#

reminds me of some tb (storm trooper at the time i think) i found in arena many a year ago
i wish i remembered their ign 😔

#

i've still never had that much fun

heavy spear
#

makes a mental note to log in for that free foj

#

overall in past years of pvp i've had more fun in sparring rooms than in arena

oblique sundial
#

Catas always been an ape pos but they're not as bad as the fourth jobs

glass echo
mystic elbow
#

also balance patch maybe(?)

rich quail
#

It's the end of the season this week, aka the only time they implement patches, so, yeah.

#

Oh boy time to see just how many blue things are up in top 100 this season.

oblique sundial
#

Free jc cool time to be a uh

#

Idk aes or demersio again

glass echo
#

I see

#

Do I have to actually do PvE for the free FoJ though

#

If I do I'm not even going to bother lmao

willow mural
#

80% sure you just have to sit on ur butt for like an hr

glass echo
#

You love to see it

#

What day will it be on

willow mural
#

iunno

glass echo
#

Time to prob miss it then lmao

heavy spear
#

the post says it'll be on the weekend

burnt jungle
#

pvp patch will be here during maint DemSleepBen

full yoke
#

why did nova got nerfed on pvp?

#

and a napalm half bopnus decrese

#

we use a 150-200 mp for a 5 sec buff but it got nerfed?

#

then bursting blade is just better

oblique sundial
#

so just use bursting blade

full yoke
#

yeah but why did he get nerfed?

#

is what im asking out for

oblique sundial
#

Because it's kog

#

Why is CA still broken?

real viper
#

there are a lot of skills and passives that has pvp stat same with dungeon stat so the they complained about it

full yoke
#

That's stupid ?

oblique sundial
#

Your expectations should be in the basement

#

Like so low that buffing TP sounds like a good idea

full yoke
#

Yeaps

hollow hound
heavy spear
#

lol, dem untouched

willow mural
#

time to try out pvp with nerfed fl

full yoke
#

realys

willow mural
#

ok this does kinda hurt

dull forum
#

AD is dead

#

ggs

willow mural
#

yeah skulltilt

#

why did they nerf her too the ground but not rev, proph, or gen

dull forum
#

i mean

#

she plays like

#

bq now

#

but her command damage to hit

#

HARDDDDDDDDD bro

#

i went from doing 20ks unawakend

#

to 7ks non crit

#

:j

willow mural
#

she deserved it worryback

#

if i cant have my cmd dmg no one can

dull forum
#

she still has

#

another command dmg string

#

but its not as good

mystic elbow
#

for the best rly 💀

hollow hound
dull forum
#

the >>zxxx

#

is the new damage command

#

😭

oblique sundial
#

Dem untouched

#

Looks like I'm playing dem again

oblique sundial
#

or cata

#

hm

mystic elbow
#

go dem

oblique sundial
#

but the funny 40 mp active

mystic elbow
#

what about it

oblique sundial
#

optimizing the fun out of games

mystic elbow
#

u can do that by running ppl over on dem

oblique sundial
#

yeah thats what i mean :(

celest ore
#

they really did let es off easy

mystic elbow
#

es doesn't even need nerfs almost at all anyway

oblique sundial
#

it has been one hour and i already miss dia command damage

mystic elbow
#

no cuz why'd u actually go dem

oblique sundial
#

because i hate fun

heavy spear
#

i miss having damage

#

but i guess it's ok cause i can catch flying characters with rise up

mystic elbow
#

idk dem seems kinda fun 🤔

heavy spear
#

it can be fun if you like tentacles

oblique sundial
#

Dem is a lot of fun, I'm just used 30k normals

heavy spear
#

dem isn't very fun on small bosses in pve

willow mural
#

yeah skulltilt

oblique sundial
#

Hey at least dem got a new "nuke"

#

And mod rise up

#

Why they have half a wind blast for 50 mp is between the devs and God

empty ore
#

Funny enough I still see people using unmod more

heavy spear
#

i dont have mod but i somehow cant imagine using it more than unmod rise up

willow mural
#

@gentle trench gg!

#

@elfin rune YUJIIIIII

elfin rune
#

gg

#

I was jk on flagging

#

😔

willow mural
#

OMG YOURE ALIVE

#

I THOUGHT YOU WERE DEAD FOREVER

#

how have u been omg

#

also no hard feelings idk how to pvp on luciel lmao

elfin rune
#

Nah ur good

oblique sundial
#

Omg yuji

gentle trench
#

I mean pvp

willow mural
#

cielfan4902 was me

#

the innocent

gentle trench
#

Oh I see!

#

Gg man 😄

#

Im im bed its time to sleep for me now haha

#

Goodnight! GL on ur matches o/

elfin rune
oblique sundial
#

😍😍😍

gentle trench
#

How to use fog? ;o

gentle trench
#

Also, do I get crit dmg on artifact 3rd line?

dull forum
#

Attack speed

#

Mainstat

#

@gentle trench

#

Critical damage gets normalized

#

So the 5% becomes 2

#

So best in slot would be attack speed

#

Imo

#

Since it's 8% and frees up socketing space

#

Or going for the main stats

#

600 attack is pretty meh but ok

gentle trench
# dull forum So the 5% becomes 2

Isnt 2% crit kinda nice still? I was also thinking of 8% attackspeed but its pretty easy to cap it and I dont have any el collection yet

mystic elbow
#

2% is nice but not worth the slot

gentle trench
#

Gotcha

#

U also agree on attackspeed cas?

mystic elbow
#

Kinda

#

For pvp for sure

#

But if you’re going for SoA its better off that you get a pve stat

gentle trench
#

Ah that makes sense

#

I got 5% attackspeed

#

Might be worth keeping to save some money for now

#

Im at 129% attackspeed lmao

mystic elbow
#

How much action speed were u recommended for CC

gentle trench
#

127 but I prefer 128

#

I think its a noticeable difference

mystic elbow
#

Mmm

gentle trench
#

Idk how I got 129, probably the 6% attackspeed on my additional from VoS

mystic elbow
#

Well

#

Do u have DA and TW in collection

gentle trench
#

Nope xD

#

I have one rena

#

Ah 3rd rena but just S1

mystic elbow
#

Go finish collection Bruh

gentle trench
#

I should :c

#

But kinda short on time with work

#

I did have someone that carried me dungeons for 200m/h that was really nice but she stopped

fiery lionBOT
#
bigwoofles has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

#
bigwoofles has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

mystic elbow
#

bruh

gentle trench
#

Lol

#

I didnt have time to read

mystic elbow
#

Oh well

dull forum
#

Hm

#

What are ur other stats

#

If ur crit maxi mp cost red DMG are low

gentle trench
#

Im in game rn if u wanna check

dull forum
#

I'm at work deadge

gentle trench
#

I think they are very high

#

Crit is 90% (+10%)

dull forum
#

Mp cost

gentle trench
#

Maxi is 74.5% but thats more then yasu has

gentle trench
dull forum
#

Red dmg

gentle trench
#

36% red dmg

dull forum
#

Yeah that's low

#

Idk about move jump

gentle trench
#

Move jump 108%

dull forum
#

I think 124s are fine

gentle trench
#

Gotcha

dull forum
#

It depends

#

I think cc gets

#

Movement speed too

#

What's ur

#

Shoes

#

And bottom enhancement

gentle trench
#

+9

#

Does it give movement speed? 😮

#

I can still get the collection speed ones

dull forum
#

Shoes gives u maximize

#

Bottom gives u attack speed

#

The higher ur bottom enhance the less attack speed socket you need

gentle trench
#

Ah gotcha

dull forum
#

But ideally u wanna

gentle trench
#

I feel like I might get away with just collection

dull forum
#

Go for 40% red at least

#

What's ur current

#

Iv

#

Ib*

gentle trench
#

I use HoD

empty ore
# gentle trench How to use fog? ;o

'
Using fog tactically: Most people who use fog use it based on reaction. But you can also use it to control space i.e forcing them to a specific space, limiting their options. Try not to fog as a reflex to your opponent fogging.
"

dull forum
gentle trench
empty ore
#

Thats one method to using it yes.

#

The most basic way is

#

if they're in your range, and its off CD and you know you can catch em. Use it

gentle trench
# dull forum What about ur weapon and accessory setups

Rn I use a s2 +10 VoS and my accesories are

Flos fairy+libri
Mark of inferno & undying flame
Demonic vine crown
Rosa lethe cape (I desperately want cannon 😭)
Nasod eye
MR ear and arm ornament
Bravery+magic neck+ring of fury

empty ore
#

Dont use it on SA targets imo

gentle trench
dull forum
#

What's ur cannon

#

Like the costume avcs

#

Acc

gentle trench
#

Ah I just have a filler elpheus one, and I have a AA spare

#

I just cant find a RL seller ;c

dull forum
#

Skull

#

That sucks

empty ore
#

Yeah good freakin luck with Rosa Lethe stuff

mystic elbow
#

I can't find the weapon anywhere 🤔

#

there's one for ara that I might get

#

n i have aisha's & eves

gentle trench
#

Someone find me a cannon I give you a reward xD

mystic elbow
#

mood

#

i got my two weapons for 1.2b + hanger

gentle trench
#

RL?

#

Damn Id pay 3b for one now if id get the chance

mystic elbow
#

ya RL

abstract yacht
#

a Chung should have no issues hitting smn 2 (or 3 idk range) platforms above with it then go with >>^X to follow
but it's also up to how fast you're reacting to it

hollow hound
#

I need advice for FoJ mystics (for pvp).

empty ore
#

Theres no advice, just the standard

#

Red Phys/Mag attack level
Blue Phys/Mag %
Yellow Phys/Mag %

abstract yacht
#

the usual atk% and atk lv

if u wanna do the funni
you can go double attack chance or attribute chance

but thats about it

dull forum
#

if ur ca just full phys

#

as they said

hollow hound
#

Phy what?

empty ore
#

Physical, the stat

heavy spear
#

happy free foj day

#

my void gives more cp

glass echo
#

So you just have to log for an hour?

mystic elbow
#

yes

heavy spear
#

still waiting for a free vos if it ever comes

glass echo
dull forum
#

punch event

#

with a free +9 vos

heavy spear
#

i dont know what a punch event is but ok i'll wait for it

#

suppose that also means there isn't any point in investing in this foj

oblique sundial
#

I'll grab a free vos ig

abstract yacht
# heavy spear my void gives more cp

if both are +10

give it mystics and that'll change

if void is +11
void can give more than a full mystic FoJ yeah but the FoJ would still be way better dmg wise.

#

source: I was still using +11 Void during the BoJ +10 april fools which was a perfect FoJ yet it decreased my CP by 300k but it was still stronger.

heavy spear
#

i should save my mystics for that, i'm thinking

dull forum
#

tell u rq

#

so whenever we get a punch event

#

u get a free +10

#

foj

#

then u do quests

#

and it converts into +9 vos

#

it keeps the same mystics iirc

#

but not sages ids n stuff

heavy spear
#

oh ok

oblique sundial
#

i love nether shredder

willow mural
#

other than that wth

willow mural
#

nerf daybreaker

#

how was she not hit

#

she can cast blast arrow for literally nothing

#

same thing for dius aers pulling light

oblique sundial
#

kill her before she kills you

gentle trench
#

Enhancing armor for pvp you go gloves>top>bottom>shoes?

gentle trench
real viper
#

didn't they nerfed that 12s SA down to 6s?

gentle trench
#

Reeeeee literally losing from someone who 1shots me smh

#

Guy didnt hit me once

gentle trench
empty ore
#

1 mistake dont complain

willow mural
gentle trench
willow mural
#

yeah sure

gentle trench
#

😄

willow mural
#

ima use my cat cuz i want practice

gentle trench
#

Oki

#

Do u make room?

#

Idk the settings xD

#

Im ready

willow mural
#

idk which mode to pick lol

gentle trench
#

Same ;-;

#

Maybe brawl? Because this one has item

willow mural
#

nah brawl is the meme one

#

what does item even mean

gentle trench
#

Potions and those field things like freeze and thunder

#

Whatever xD

willow mural
#

oh

#

lemme change that then

gentle trench
#

I once played in practice channel too, was nice but gave way more mp per sec :/

willow mural
#

wanna keep erp on?

gentle trench
#

Sure

willow mural
#

same pass

noble pelican
#

Team Match = most similar to Arena (1 kill = win) but you can change the time; I like using this one from 1v1s
Team Death Match = reach a certain amount of kills to win
Survival = big meme