pvp

[abstract yacht]

Move/Jump spd sure helps you get around the map but they are not any priority whatsoever

You can live with only 10% of either especially as a chung since you have >>X and >>^X

Even more so as a CC so those commands dont waste any cannonballs at all so you can infinitely spam them around

and in most cases you end up having 15-20% without even trying

I have 23% move and 18% jump without even trying

[gentle trench]

Not really id say

Atleast, for a CC

38.6% dmg reduction 510k Hp

+/- 5.5k phys and mag def

[gentle trench]

Oh nice

Ive seen some sockets on yasu so I thought its probably needed because we have pretty mobile combos

https://m.twitch.tv/clip/PrettiestSourOryxPicoMause-m0JzsEhv61irJGLq

[marsh plume]

If u rly want to minmax you could use a single sage for mov/jump each

Since the highest value you can get on armor is 18 iirc

You can bank ur duelist

So you can just use ur unused alt sages

[gentle trench]

Oh damn I can make multiple duelist sets and get free +9?

Thats awesome 😄

I think shining dual acceleration stones are best

5action 12jump 12 speed vs 24% jump or speed with sage

Ayyy FoJ drop at week 3

Are VoS rates similar? I doubt they are tbh xD

[dusk dock]

It's joever

Right now its my guildie versus a FP

[empty ore]

Poor Hayai

[dusk dock]

You're telling me

It be your own Bullet Blitz

[abstract yacht]

Never look at max values.
as someone who has played the era when they were a thing
you'll never get full values unless spending a horrid amount of them, which is not possible to do in these days because there's no supply.
No, it's not worth it and no, it's not any better

even dual stones from these times (heroic stones) still take a bad amount to even maximize both stats (getting crit + mpr both at cap is stupid costly if u aint lucky)
now imagine one stone that doesnt just have 2 stats BUT 3

[dusk dock]

^

[gentle trench]

Fair xD

[gentle trench]

How OP are these tho?

[fiery lion]

Undefeated#2424 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[burnt jungle]

it only works on pve

and even then, its way too expensive and its not even worth with its effect

and its not even a high priority socket either

[gentle trench]

Gotcha

Rip pve only I guess xD

Guess its like a collectors item?

[dusk dock]

alright feelas

Genesis

or Luciel?

[gentle trench]

Emporium and ashal are really the only places to buy stuff? Its pretty dead :c

[gentle trench]

I think genesis xD

[dusk dock]

Genesis might win tbh

I was hoping the Elly would at least be top 4

Unless I am misremembering

[marsh plume]

Genesis has one of the best if not the best 1s tool rn

The low cost of the tp on top of the refund make it a pretty ridiculous tool

The elesis tourney winner only played 1 match yday

And it was vs aes

[mystic elbow]

Some character servers have markets

Ara, LuCiel and Laby does but idk about Chung cuz I’m not in it

[gentle trench]

Yasu said the chung server didnt have :c

But he also said he didnt know if hes in the right one

[mystic elbow]

There’s multiple

[dusk dock]

only played or won?

[mystic elbow]

Both

He played one match and won it

[dusk dock]

what about the others

.

[mystic elbow]

Aisha played most of her matches

13 I think

[dusk dock]

zamn

[mystic elbow]

Won 9(?)

[dusk dock]

Aisha szn

[mystic elbow]

Cuz she won’t be here today for the beginning

[dusk dock]

o ut

fr?

makes sense

[mystic elbow]

Hero played 5(?) and won them

[dusk dock]

all 5?

[mystic elbow]

Yes

[dusk dock]

could havr sworn he lost to Aisha

iirc

[mystic elbow]

Jushi and Wishlock played 4

He won against her

[dusk dock]

op

nvm then

what about my boi

[mystic elbow]

Both of them are running 3 wins 1 loss

[dusk dock]

OnlyNice

[mystic elbow]

He played 4 I think

Lost 3 won 1

[dusk dock]

i was there

for that one win

[fiery lion]

dekomlev#0 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dusk dock]

the comeback

[mystic elbow]

Was a good win

[dusk dock]

deserved

he saw chat and was like

OnlyLose?

nah

imma do my own thing

[mystic elbow]

He said he wasn’t playing well that day

But him joining was very last minute

[dusk dock]

yeah

i heard things about him tho

not any good however

[willow mural]

general rule of thumb:
if 1 stone costs a leg to buy, dont use it

socketing is rng, so you can end up buying multiple of those and still not get a good roll

[mystic elbow]

I think he’s pretty decent

Def better than me 😭

[dusk dock]

who

OnlyNice?

he nice

[dusk dock]

@willow mural

[split thistle]

Read them so hard lol

[willow mural]

this is exactly how id get caught

LOL

i run around too much

[willow mural]

when can i ban myself from fighting certain characters

finally i got him

[willow mural]

going back to using flame orb

i really wish it was cheaper but thats ok

[gentle trench]

That one was actually fixed 3%

[willow mural]

still not worth it imo

[gentle trench]

Hahahaha

[gentle trench]

Why do they remake sparring rooms btw?

[empty ore]

After a while the sparring rooms increase in latency

[gentle trench]

Ah gotcha

[glass echo]

Don't ever expect them to fix it, either

[willow mural]

the sequel!!!

its really hard to fight him on maps with curves

this will never fail to make me laugh

can u even get ties in pvp

any other pvp 5/5s i should look into

[glass echo]

No ties, only a winner and loser

[fiery lion]

hashime#0 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glass echo]

@willow mural Oh man I messed up that last awk so hard

Meant to go behind you not into the sword 🤦🏻‍♂️

[willow mural]

i missed that first orb and rethought my life decisions

[glass echo]

Damage

[willow mural]

i need another ib

[glass echo]

What weapon are you using

[willow mural]

vos this time round

[glass echo]

+11?

[willow mural]

its my pve 💀

yea

[empty ore]

whats your current

[willow mural]

7w rn

i wanna play around w something else

[glass echo]

My +11 FoJ is pretty weak

[willow mural]

its crazy how much of a dmg difference +11 foj and +11 vos is

its honestly ridiculous

[glass echo]

Not me losing to an RV because they healed after they revived

Let's remove revive titles from PvP, thank you

[empty ore]

Elpheus, Horde, Lapis. Wander Marchen (Accessories), Crescent Lullaby,

@willow mural

[willow mural]

ill go back to elpheus

cuz i dont feel like buying another set lol

[empty ore]

Why are you bored of 7w

[willow mural]

ive been using it for like 2 yrs

i just wanna change it up

[gentle trench]

Is it possible OnlyNice uses 2set amethystine in pvp?

The 2set is -5% mp 16k hp and 10% dmg reduction, it also has way more stats then sparring gear

[willow mural]

why do some people flag when theyre lagging

like bro what r u flagging for, ur the one with the upper hand

[gentle trench]

What does flagging mean exactly?

Sorry for being a noob lol

[willow mural]

when u press f1 and summon ur guild flag

[gentle trench]

Ah

But does it mean something?

[willow mural]

its just taunting

[gentle trench]

Like being salty or calling u bad or the match unfair?

[willow mural]

i was SALTY

lmao

its no big deal but i was in my feelings

[gentle trench]

Ah theres no meaning behind it

I hear it quite often so I thought it probably would be something offensive xD

[willow mural]

its the equivilent of pointing at someone and blowing a raspberry

[gentle trench]

Ah hahaha I see

Whats with the ice map? Why isnt it used for the tourney?

[willow mural]

its really glichty

there are areas where u can fall thru the floor

its funny cuz u can see it as soon as u spawn and do the intro pose

[gentle trench]

O.o

[willow mural]

ur character just falls lol

[fiery lion]

Undefeated#2424 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[gentle trench]

Oh vvtf

[willow mural]

that was an awful idea i shouldnt have done that 💀

elpheus makes me sooo tanky so i survived that

stupid tho

[gentle trench]

Hahaha nice win

[willow mural]

i kinda wanna try out crescent lullaby

[gentle trench]

I moved from elpheus to HoD but kinda feel like going back haha

Also

Does chung have an advantage against GS?

I know when I fought GS I shouldve won and almost did, I missed because my own mistake and he had like 1hp left. Jushiroh also won from Ssllg, does GS have a hard time fighting a chung? Or is my anecdotal evidence based on one match just weak

[willow mural]

based on one match

u can win against him

but its definitely an uphill battle

[gentle trench]

But from a GS perspective is chung a class u wanna avoid?

I feel like he has a better chance picking MasterAltria for the top4 fight as picking Jushiroh but what do I know

[gentle trench]

Oh wishlock aswell I think?

[willow mural]

i feel like i do more dmg with my foj than my vos wth

that was epic

dont lie

@dusk dock didnt know that that skill only had a hitbox at the very end

conqueror

[gentle trench]

O.o

[gentle trench]

W

[gentle trench]

Man I just had 6 continuous losses against an overfunded ultranoob who I just completely slaughtered and then he 1shotted me with a skill that probably was just 150mp xD

Nearly got him 5/6 times

[dusk dock]

Mod conq is so weird

[knotty kraken]

OoR is lying if its an 11% change to proc

took ~40 seconds of near constant attacking to proc once

they were already halfway dead by then

[mighty drum]

rng be rng

[willow mural]

yall

should i keep this or keep rolling on my wep

[mighty drum]

probably just me being dumb but id get something useful there like attack speed/hp

[willow mural]

yh thts wht i was thinking

[mighty drum]

i dont pvp anymore but thats what i would expect ... survivability and utility over dmg

[willow mural]

but that 6.25 atk level so 🤔

that awk duration killing my vibe

[mighty drum]

oh ye and awakening charge over awakening duration owo so you can get back out of awakening to use it again xD

more potential iframes xD

freeze frames

sorry

same dif

owo

[willow mural]

nah its all good

[mystic elbow]

uh

6.25 is pretty nice

but like ya said the awk duration

if u feel like u can get it again

[mighty drum]

reroll owo

[mystic elbow]

or smth equal or better

then sure

if not then I wouldn't risk it

[willow mural]

what should i try to get

[mighty drum]

burn it xD

[mystic elbow]

anything thats not

awk duration

😭

[willow mural]

🤔

[mystic elbow]

no

[mighty drum]

oooh

[willow mural]

hate my life

[mighty drum]

LOL

welp least you will have alot of mp

xD

nah not really

mp gain on attack has pretty bad scaleing sadge

[willow mural]

how bout this

it rlly loves move spd

oh mai

[mystic elbow]

double mag

get

double

thats why I said equal or better

or a little worse as long as it's double mag lines

[mighty drum]

owo

honestly id stay with either of those last 2 unless you had like 2-5 stacks of time and space scrolls to reroll with lel

[willow mural]

W

[dull forum]

Pvp Id poggies

[willow mural]

also reidented some other stuff for more mp

[mystic elbow]

girlie

no..

[mighty drum]

OP

[willow mural]

maybe instead of looking for another pvp 5/5, i should look for another combo 🤔

[mighty drum]

i take it all back xD

[mighty drum]

i guess pvp accessory use isnt a thing anymore

[mystic elbow]

uhh i mean thats alright

do u feel like u need a different pvp acc

[willow mural]

i just wanna try somethin new

[mystic elbow]

anything specific?

[willow mural]

more dmg instead of mp cost ig

[mystic elbow]

mm well theres RL weap or 2/4

CL 4/4 tho idk how that'd work on FL

I think that's it for dmg specific combos

[willow mural]

ill just cope with what i got for now

[mystic elbow]

sob

if u have BM/WhM 4/4 u can mess around with resets

[willow mural]

i wish i had that 😭

i do want rosa lethe tho..

if i were, whatd i get?

sun aura insignia instead of elpheus ofc so i can keep mr's set effect

ig i go back to using demonic eye unless theres a better support unit?

[mystic elbow]

Yeah that works

U only need 2/4 MR so u can either get RF/RFvB 2/4 or ice queen/demonic eye

[willow mural]

yeah ill use that

just gotta find rl wep first

and im not buying it for 4b lmaooo

what???

wth was that

[knotty kraken]

approaches you in hitstun

[willow mural]

i was really close to beating this overgeared fb

really close

i just squandered my resources tho

[knotty kraken]

pat

[willow mural]

got him

[abstract yacht]

used to be a thing.

but I think they got rid of draws (save for disconnection on start cases) eventually

so now is just whoever touches ground and triggers death animation first loses

[willow mural]

ah

useless info but good to know!

[dusk dock]

wait

fr

i cant draw

man

i have plenty of close calls

i hate it here that draws arent an actual thing

very useful to me

bad to know

q

[dusk dock]

btw common artist L

[pastel creek]

Where in relation to PvP can you draw

[willow mural]

u know like a draw

a tie

[pastel creek]

Ohhhhhh

[gentle trench]

On what item is this?

[dusk dock]

wordplay

[pastel creek]

Yeah i get it now

[dusk dock]

@willow mural

[fiery lion]

Undefeated#2424 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dusk dock]

@gentle trench

[gentle trench]

Whahaha I almost fugged up

[dusk dock]

watch your tone my clip

[gentle trench]

I finished off someone with 3% HP with Artillery nova

Didnt know he had a resurrect passive

☠️☠️☠️

[gentle trench]

Lets see!

[gentle trench]

Nice one!

LMAO

It was that guy

I used my artillery nova on him when he had 3% hp 😂

[dusk dock]

BM

[gentle trench]

BM?

Oh hey that was you!

Gg 😄

[dusk dock]

bad manners

wait

that was you?

.

[gentle trench]

Yeah ^^

[dusk dock]

lemme say what I want to say in pvp so i dont get bot warned

[gentle trench]

In pvp?

[dusk dock]

DMs**

check em

[gentle trench]

Sure ^^

[dusk dock]

@mystic elbow @willow mural @gentle trench

[gentle trench]

He says Im a lagger, is that true?

[dusk dock]

with the hard R

[gentle trench]

First time someone calls me a lagger tbh

But elsword connects the player to the player right? So it could be if we play together we lag

[dusk dock]

this is a lagger

[dusk dock]

@mystic elbow

[gentle trench]

That mustve been atleast a little scary haha

[dusk dock]

for who?

i know you aint talking about me

[gentle trench]

XD

[mystic elbow]

Why am i being tagged

[willow mural]

My pvp foj

[willow mural]

@dusk dock lmao the tanking

[willow mural]

And based off those videos, nah
Just typical chung lingering hitbox things

[dusk dock]

he wanted your opinion

[willow mural]

Dang ur an old player

I didn't know u had that April fools cut in

[dusk dock]

yeah im old

its MP cost atm

since i dont care about

pvp rn

My only source of enjoyment is sparring matches with OnlyNice tbh

[willow mural]

ANOTHER pvp tourney

[dusk dock]

This is how much I care about Arena rn

[mystic elbow]

Sure but why was I tagged a 2nd time

[dusk dock]

Idk

[mystic elbow]

You’re the one who tagged the heck u mean 😭

The only part that was iffy to me was the first clip at the end with you mod pulse to ^Z then he gets out of it but I’m only iffy on it because it could’ve been low alt

Other than that he’s flinched on time and responded to all time stops without delay

[dusk dock]

I forgor 💀

Thank you

[mystic elbow]

Actually your Z didn’t connect at all so he got out anyway

[dusk dock]

Remember when we could do ^z infinitely

Like everyone else in the game

zzz

Add main features are receiving the most mind boggling nerfs you will ever see

[gentle trench]

😄

[gentle trench]

^^

Ty guys

[mystic elbow]

yea but awful rules

[dusk dock]

wait

the rules are out already?

[mystic elbow]

yea

[dusk dock]

link?

or iis it on the offical website?

[mystic elbow]

it should be on the official website

[dusk dock]

same rules as that last one, right?

[mystic elbow]

no

there's heavy gear restrictions

idk why they keep doing that

[dusk dock]

not this one, right?

STANDARD RULE SET
All Accessories are allowed.
All Costumes are allowed.
All Equipment is allowed.
All Sockets and Attributes are allowed.
Artifact Accessories are allowed.
Use of Hyperactive skills are allowed.
Mod Skills are allowed.
All Force Skills (Passives and Actives) are allowed.
El Resonance will be enabled.
Wedding Skills are prohibited.
No Unsportsmanlike Conduct.
Character Class and Name Changes can be made on a case-by-case basis until the Brackets get posted.

ok so

@abstract yacht

you were right

this is what happens when two bottoms find each other in arena

we both lose

draws are non-existent

[willow mural]

honestly?

[mystic elbow]

2s matches gonna take several years

Idk why they took away tied matches

[willow mural]

if they added more events alongside the pvp ones, i wouldnt be so annoyed with them

getting pvp tourneys back to back now

i still find it funny how they know blizzard is a glitch fest, yet they dont fix it

[mystic elbow]

I like watching the tourney's tho

[willow mural]

it feels like theyre leaving the pve side of the game to the wayside though

same attendance event and play dungeon with x character for the last 2 years 💀

the kc rewards are also whack for the other events
artists 1st place get 12k (i got like 1.5k from my sticker) and the pvp players get 50k

[mystic elbow]

I dont think so, all balance patches are for pve(but affect pvp), and pve gets more overall content.

Raiden used to even do Rosso runs with chat

The only reason we started getting more pvp tournaments is because they had a good amount of ppl join and watch

With this one it seems like they also had a good amount of people vote

[empty ore]

Pve will never be left to the wayside

[mystic elbow]

Pve is the most important part of this game

Pvp is just a side hoe atp

[empty ore]

Yep. Its just something to do when you get bored of pve

Theyve tried bringing in other game modes. But they are all so gimmicky

Does anyone actually do pet pvp?

[willow mural]

no LOL

[mystic elbow]

Yeah no 💀

[willow mural]

we got challenge mode (that no one plays), pet pvp, and mount race

that people also dont play

only things we gotten that were pretty good were the raid events and punch events (and we hadnt had those in a hot second)

but other than that, its like gacha sign in events for the most part

and the aforementioned kc disparity

well we did get ran raid, idk why i forgot to mention that loll

but other than that, no new major content updates

[mystic elbow]

We havent had a real balance patch in years

💀

[willow mural]

at least kr is getting a pvp patch

but i dont have high hopes for that

[mystic elbow]

So even tho there’s been tournaments it’s just been broken characters added to each tournament

[willow mural]

someones gonna get a slap on the wrist or the wrong skill gonna be nerfed

yeah, seriously

[mystic elbow]

With no change

Esp Laby tourney

[willow mural]

lets give this character 24/7 super armor, 12 super cheap catching skills, and commands that are impossible to escape

and then theres the fact that if u dont have gear, ur probably getting one shot

which i think is annoying, that u have to pve in order to pvp

remember when holy declatation was still 20s of super armor

now its 12 but its still goofy

and yeah, those balance patches were definitely pve oriented, very annoying

the urge to take off rising burst from my bar is intense

its a good skill but its so feedy

[mystic elbow]

Depending on how much mp cost u have and how much mp it gives back to you

It might not be worth

[willow mural]

nvm it just saved my butt

but at the same time, i could just use scaldic

not like i have much to replace it with

if avatar of fire had a bigger aoe id use it instead

[mystic elbow]

Ig not rly replace it just use it less

[willow mural]

thats the plan

its good for catching after a mb

@gentle trench gg!

[gentle trench]

Gg!

[willow mural]

do u have land demolisher?

thats really annoying but its really good for catching

[gentle trench]

Yeah ^^

Its my main tool haha

Dont think I had the chance to use it against you because I had to use SA

But its usually my finisher

[willow mural]

oops not land demolisher

[gentle trench]

I figured out that I can keep my combo up so long after earthquake that I can just use artillery nova right after

[willow mural]

the one where he smacks the ground and launches the person upwards

[gentle trench]

Ground smash?

[willow mural]

probably

[gentle trench]

Ah land smash

[willow mural]

cuz even if i do a skill thru it, ill still get launched up if its still there 💀

[gentle trench]

Thats what everyone said but I wasnt able to use it properly 🥲

I removed it from my keyboard

[willow mural]

ah

[mystic elbow]

Wat

[gentle trench]

But maybe I didnt understand it fully

[mystic elbow]

Put it back on

[willow mural]

im not a chung player, im just saying what i see from ccs

and maybe in place of artillery nova when u did it, u can use mod guardians rage

[mystic elbow]

CCs mostly use it when after kd/mb cuz a lot of ppl tend to roll -> awk

[willow mural]

cuz i was right above u when u got up, so u coulda sucked me back in

[gentle trench]

I can use it when u MB?

[mystic elbow]

After mb

Or kd

[gentle trench]

Hmm true yeah!

I wonder if the dmg is worth it

How is mod guardians rage vs SA? Are u stuck?

[gentle trench]

And then it catches?

Or is it so they cant press a skill? 🤔

[willow mural]

yh around here

or when i jumped up onto that platform

i had no resources cuz i squandered all of em on infernal blade

[gentle trench]

Ah when I stand below you to suck you in

Yeah thats a good one

[willow mural]

its so annoying LMAO

[gentle trench]

But if u MB I wasted the same MP I would use for earthquake

[mystic elbow]

It’s basically an awk punish

[gentle trench]

And earthquake gives me no KD combo and 20% more dps, plus its a great 2hit dps skill

[willow mural]

i wouldnt have the mp to mb

i had like 10 lmao

[mystic elbow]

They’ll awk but not be able to do anything and then get lifted

So awk punish + pretty good recatch

Until ppl know you’re gonna do it at least

[fiery lion]

Undefeated#2424 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[willow mural]

F

[mystic elbow]

Nice

[fiery lion]

Undefeated#2424 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[gentle trench]

Ah, I shouldve watched ur bar more closely

[mystic elbow]

[gentle trench]

I just catch with Z?

Launch and Z ?

Oh its not this skill?

No launch hmmm

[willow mural]

z or the canon skill

[mystic elbow]

Are u using normal or mod

[willow mural]

where stuff comes outta both sides

idk what that skill is called but its busted lmao

i think its an active

[gentle trench]

Oh guard

[gentle trench]

Normal

[mystic elbow]

Use mod

Mod has a debuff on it too

Forgot which

[gentle trench]

Pog its mod 😄

Oh 6sec no dash after being hit

:)

Now we talking

[willow mural]

gl!

[mystic elbow]

U can catch off it with guard

[gentle trench]

Gg’

!*

[willow mural]

[gentle trench]

Im being gatekeeped xD

I was 87% for SS haha

64% now

But I dont think Im worthy for SS yet either way

[willow mural]

sheesh

yeah my gear is better than urs im betting

my luciels cant get into ss either

[pastel creek]

https://tenor.com/view/gg-ez-gg-skill-issue-orin-okuu-utsuho-gif-23153296

[gentle trench]

Img someone flagged me after my artillery nova missed because of their skill

Death penalty

[gentle trench]

Meh skill issue

I dont think its my gear holding me back tbh

I think I really shine at flinging, but my combos and catches are not SS+ tier

I dont know my class very well, let alone other classes

[willow mural]

the more u fight other classes, the more u get a feel for the meta kit

[gentle trench]

But since I finally made good progress on gear, I kinda have time to nerd into it and practice my combos

[gentle trench]

^^

[willow mural]

as for ur own class, watching pvp videos, recording matches, and asking for help is a great start

[gentle trench]

Yeah I should start recording

[willow mural]

rn im trying to focus on what gives others less resources and what gives me more mana

[gentle trench]

Whats the easyest way to share a recording and cut it etc?

[willow mural]

i just use the windows game bar

[gentle trench]

I found that out this week 😄

[willow mural]

and then edit it in photos

[gentle trench]

I can feed myself a lot of mana with xxx in the corner

[willow mural]

just gotta keep an eye on the opponents mp

i always assume they have like 30% mp cost reduction

[gentle trench]

Photos? Like a standard windows app

[willow mural]

yeah

[gentle trench]

Sorry Im kind of a mac user

But I built a pc for elsword xd

[willow mural]

thats what i do

ooooh

ig u can use obs or something

[gentle trench]

Oh they have a trim feature

Thats cool

Seems easy

And then how to post it here? Do I need discord nitro or something xD

[willow mural]

nah

just click the + sign

or drag and drop

[gentle trench]

OBS makes me mad

Nice fixed the issues

[gentle trench]

too big

jeez 1 match 500mb

what fps do u guys record

behold

my first recorded match

any tips are welcome xD

look at the mp feed of xxx at the start

pretty naughty right?

[gentle trench]

@dusk dock gg ^^

[willow mural]

u can also use this
https://8mb.video/

recording windowed also helps

[gentle trench]

Oh sweet ty ^^

[dusk dock]

wait

that was you?

.

[gentle trench]

yeah ^^

but I didnt hit record :x

[dusk dock]

real

[gentle trench]

Gg ^^

[mystic elbow]

Few things, the obten was odd

He was nowhere near u

But then u used it to get closer and saw him use iron body

But then awk and land demo

Imo those were all bad moves

After that u continued to play aggressive against KE with full mana while u had next to none

U saw him use his SA command then pressed land demo again and wasted more mana by doing so

[gentle trench]

hmm maybe idk how his SA command looks yet xD

[mystic elbow]

Means u need to learn more characters

Character knowledge is important

[willow mural]

fellow na voice enjoyer

[mystic elbow]

🤮

[willow mural]

if you see a red aura outlining and elboy or an elgirl, thats iron body and you have to run

[empty ore]

Its actually terrible on SA targets, it will not succ them.

[willow mural]

ib lasts for 5 seconds, and if they have the mana, they will extend it

my thing when it comes to kes dashing around is to just not approach them because they will catch you

unless you have lingering commands like antis balls (lol)

[empty ore]

If you're feeling anxious. XX to abuse heavy stance in neutral. You want to feel like an unnaproachable wall.

Also learn to not dive too much. Theres a good reason the experienced chung mains dont do it too often. Rather they'll do >>^X^vZ for baiting.

[willow mural]

id also try finding another combo? you gave him half a mana bar

[mystic elbow]

XXX isnt bad normally it doesnt feed like that

Maybe its bc he wasnt in awk when he did it

[dusk dock]

I need to figure out how to record my matches better.

Might have to play on full screen.

I'm hyped as hell for this next tournament.

Which is why I will be in arena with those rule sets applied.

So if you want to have a good time or free RP

Hmu

;s

[gentle trench]

True!

[gentle trench]

Is the cast animation obvious?

[gentle trench]

I can just spam xx>xx<xx>xx?

[willow mural]

yeah

theres a little sound effect too

[gentle trench]

Is the ^ after the >>^x a typo or is there a difference in >>^x^vx and >>^xvx?

[gentle trench]

But I got a whole, its my best mp gain I heard

[empty ore]

Yeah thats typo. yours is correct

[gentle trench]

Oh damn theres a diff in that too? ☠️

[gentle trench]

Gotcha! Ty

[gentle trench]

Wow it was so obvious

But compared to my wonder wall its not obvious at all xD

Ill remember it now ty!

[willow mural]

you always have to pay attention to ur opponent

[gentle trench]

I also think I remove mod from WW

[willow mural]

if dude has mp, hell probably use it

[gentle trench]

The explosion happens to ruin my combo

Fair yeah xD

It also never came to mind to run when they are in SA

I thought I just had to play better

How stupid was I lmao

Thinking I could just outplay SA while I know how damn OP it is for me and how everybody always runs

Less >>^xx more >>^xvz is a great one indeed, I happened to be practicing >>^xvz this night, but its still kinda quick for ne xD

Me*

And run when SA

I also played StarMeow today

I once got him to 70% HP ^^

Even tho that was with artillery nova

And we played like 20 matches

Damn what is he fast and good, also the no mana break in FP’s combos is so impressive

I wanna watch him vs yasu xD

[gentle trench]

Whats the best thing to do then? I just rush for the catch to finish him off or make him MB, running will only give him an advantage to time to use it on me right?

[willow mural]

Hell try to catch you with it
If you're playing aggro, what if guess is that he'd try to catch you with that super armor dash and then go from there

I think where you messed up was giving him so much mana to begin with, id try to pressure a mana break by using some cheap skills or make him use escape

[dusk dock]

comeback szn @willow mural

[abstract yacht]

CC: hello there
KE: iron body
CC: bye have a beautiful day

[abstract yacht]

man just went nyooom with the slow dive lmaooo

[gentle trench]

Oh really? So first catch its better to let him mana break and lose MP then to damage with a combo? 🤔

[gentle trench]

XD

Thats like me fr hahaha

[gentle trench]

Ayyy almost SSS

Nice one

[real viper]

what would you you do when you're matched against a running CA?

[glass echo]

Just take the L

[real viper]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-this-is-fine-on-fire-house-on-fire-adventure-time-gif-14133769

[gentle trench]

Is the henir weekly per acc or per char? And are the pieces shareable? 😮

[real viper]

per char and no, it's not shareable

[gentle trench]

Rippo

[real viper]

this is just my personal opinion
just remove that S.Ar from the dash atk command and CA normal again
command with high mobility + S.Ar just making her too good to abuse without any downside
similar to AD

most char with S.Ar I know have a downside of something which kinda making it fair

[dusk dock]

Update:

I'm also using HH in PvP since Ignite is banned (yes I know EA is better)

[oblique sundial]

Why use HH at all

Isn't it a damage loss?

[solid socket]

Yes it is, you're straight up griefing yourself using hh

[dusk dock]

Even if it's unique, yes.

That's why I'm using it

.

[willow mural]

I'm p sure other players don't count as bosses tho

[gentle trench]

Banned?

[gentle trench]

Might aswell unequip your weapon xD

[marsh plume]

the newest tourney

it's 2v2 and they banned a bunch of stuff

i guess it's to make it more accesible

but some of the stuff doesn't make sense

[dusk dock]

Like what?

[marsh plume]

erp disabled yet you only rly need 200 to have most of the important stuff

including hp and resists

only mp visor mp neck and rof

yet no champ accs

which are easy to get and farm

restrict gear but allow artifacts

[willow mural]

The artifact part is weird

The only thing u can't easily farm is allowed? 🤨

[gentle trench]

True yeah

[gentle trench]

Bruh

Why not just sparring with no equipment box checked?

Or does that nerf attackspeed etc hard?

Also do you join the tourney as a team or do u team up with people randomly?

[gentle trench]

After HP we go for resist?

[marsh plume]

either you go for hp resist or mpr first

depends on what suits you

personally mpr>hp>resists

also

[willow mural]

I went mp cost > resist > hp > mp

[marsh plume]

sparring gear no longer exists

it's just duelist now

oh wait i read it wrong

lol

[marsh plume]

if you disable the gear option spar

all of your stats go down to base

meaning that abt everything you do hurts

assuming it's your mainstat

so taking out escapes you'd pt much just kill off first catch depending on class

[gentle trench]

Same I guess but some ppl said max mp

[gentle trench]

Oh damn I see

[marsh plume]

max mp is an extra

its nice to have

[gentle trench]

Thought so too yeah

[marsh plume]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nod-cat-nod-cat-nodding-cute-cat-gif-23793862

[mystic elbow]

I'm rly about to get only 33 kc

[empty ore]

Just roll over and accept your fate. The amount of effort is headache inducing

[real viper]

Sadge

Tho technically it's still possible to catch but there are many things prevent it

Just annoyed

If it were a fair lost then I'd gladly take it

That running person was also well geared and yet playing like that

God thinking about that boiled my head

[dusk dock]

Anyone wanna team in the tourney with a DB?

i just want the experience

[gentle trench]

Whahaha from the voting? 😂

[heavy spear]

a CA once timed me out with constant air >>x
i got an advantage against her, then i lost it, then she just stayed in the air and never bothered to hit me from that point on

[marsh plume]

CA can just time u out

hence why low dmg settings r always horrible vs clockers

and/or low cost healers

[real viper]

CA can jump 3 times iirc but her jump count reset once she touch the ground which is kinda understandable

But her midair ZX (I mean >>^ZX is case mistake) can just spam nonstop without a cap time to use

*base on what I have seen

And midair trade can be a bad call (most of the time)

[rich quail]

Eve naturally has a faster fall speed, so yeah. Usually a bad idea to try to knock her out of the sky unless you can also beat her to the ground.

[empty ore]

Get slap'd

[heavy spear]

i was able to contest her with dem's triple jump until she decided she didn't want to fight me anymore

it caught her off guard at first but then she adapted to it

[real viper]

But the only issue with CA I see most of the time is the S.Ar from the dash atk cmd

As I mentioned earlier in here, there are things you're free to abuse for catching but it will be balance if there's a downside of it

[mystic elbow]

Yeah I voted MasterAltria

I read wrong tho

599 ppl voted total not voted for Altria

We’re good (hopefully)

[real viper]

Even FrB player spamming derp dive has it downside which opponent can exploit from it and turn the tide back

Make sense?

[glass echo]

Sorry, but 4th paths were not made equal so they don't get to care about that

😔

[real viper]

At least Kog announced that they will be looking at pvp balance upcoming

[glass echo]

I have literally 0 expectations

[real viper]

So I'm kinda looking forward to it

They did received a lot of complain about 4th path being power creep (?) against other paths

[gentle trench]

Oh gz!

[mystic elbow]

Tys

[real viper]

Fix the commands, please 🙏

They're unfair mostly because of commands I think, their skills are sorta fine

But regarding, let's just see what they're planning

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/PSA7vMbUVc2XPHrxxkVzP9QCAxrzj9L1rjuixSFlcBg/%3Fsize%3D44%26quality%3Dlossless/https/cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/417269295383314452.webp

[glass echo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/220430621007151104/1113638517797572698/uncannycat.gif

[mystic elbow]

Their skills are just as bad as the commands

[real viper]

Yes I know but it will be another topic

[rich quail]

You look at Mod Maximum Dive, which had crazy homing range for all of a few weeks before getting gutted, and then M.Persistent Rush and Chasing Prey both get to do The Same Thing But Better...

[real viper]

What does mod M.Dive do agen?

[empty ore]

Heres the thing tho, so long as you can see the dash coming. You dont have to engage with it.

[rich quail]

It used to teleport you to the target for a sucker punch.

[real viper]

Gomen, I never play RH

[mystic elbow]

The same thing as chasing prey

But x2 worse

[rich quail]

Raven beta testing crap for better characters again.

[real viper]

But the thing is that it's spammable which doesn't create a gap I can punish

That's the thing

[glass echo]

CA should get the ES treatment

😏

[real viper]

And compete against it with S.Ar also not too ideal

Since her slap can redirect you

:derp:

And chaining a skill after S.Ar is a thing after all

[mystic elbow]

What class are u? ^

[real viper]

CU

[mystic elbow]

Oh no wonder

[real viper]

I can play against it but there are certain cases...

[mystic elbow]

CU cant do much against CA

[real viper]

I can

But there are just...

Many disadvantage

[mystic elbow]

Against optimal CA?

🤔

I dont think CU has much in her kit to deal with optimal CA

[real viper]

Ofc not against a good CA, you know...
Those that I admit lost against

I can, however

Close to winning against

But "mind game"

[mystic elbow]

Yea when i talk about CA i only mean optimal CA

Not the idiots that use >>^ZXX as their combo

[real viper]

I can still do somewhat things against them

It just a hard match up

[mystic elbow]

Thats what im saying..

[real viper]

Yeah I get that...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/798867760666116156.png

[mystic elbow]

[real viper]

I was just trying to point out unbalance things of her

[mystic elbow]

Of CA?

[real viper]

Yeah

[mystic elbow]

Dw

We all know

[real viper]

Kekw

[mystic elbow]

CA is a top 5 stupid character

[real viper]

Others can me from my mistakes so I'm fine with that

Like, not too much of unbalance as it goes around CA playstyle so can't blame

@mystic elbow you played against CS?

[mystic elbow]

Yeah

She’s not difficult for me

[real viper]

Any tips when they spam midair homing? For other chars cuz my CU has my own tactic

[mystic elbow]

What other characters are u

[real viper]

Chungs (exclude DA)

She's midair + S.Ar on midair

[mystic elbow]

Honestly I’d just kinda let her if it’s during neutral

Let em waste the mana

I feel like FP could rapid cannon as she’s falling down from doing the command

[real viper]

Idk, feels like rapid cannon is shorter that the command duration

[mystic elbow]

Cent if u have the mana for it u can cannon strike

U dont have to do it instantly

But u can also try to get some shots in at a distance

[real viper]

If she's on ground then stun shot (for FP) the best choice but midair is...

What about CC?

[mystic elbow]

Tho I don’t play Chung at all so I cant rly give good advice on a char I don’t rly play

[real viper]

'kay I get that, just give your thought

[mystic elbow]

CC.. I think heavy stance might be your bestie by doing XXX

[real viper]

But then what after she proc my heavy stance?

I'm kinda stuck at that part

[mystic elbow]

If u have the mana for it then ig mod land mash

Backblast can just get u caught especially if u use it as a panic button

[real viper]

There's plenty of leftover homing bullets around so backblast don't rly solve anything imo

As I said, the S.Ar stationary midair cmd + homing is still a problem to me

No real answer yet

[dusk dock]

DoomBringer.exe

@willow mural

[real viper]

Imma gonna give you dozen of spears if I can match up against you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/955288611803242549.png

[dusk dock]

do it

right now

right now

bet you wont

no balls

[real viper]

If I can

[dusk dock]

and what is stopping you from doing so?

[real viper]

Different server

Kekw

[dusk dock]

real

[real viper]

You NA, I'm INT

You underestimating CU?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/749059868664660058.png

[dusk dock]

yes

LOL

[dusk dock]

@willow mural

[empty ore]

Not even the power of never giving up could stop you

[empty ore]

This gets a stylish point

[willow mural]

clean

the quick silver accel was amazing

how on earth are you playing with screen flasheso n

daily pvp chronicles

til that rising burst can hit a little below

and that if i extend my iframes enough i can ignore eves core laser

[mystic elbow]

that eve had my friend doing 17 minute 15-6 run

[dusk dock]

😮

I have more clips

I just dont wanna spam this thread

LOL

[abstract yacht]

why nawt

it's what this channel is for :^)

[dusk dock]

ok

found a way to avoid

Genesis bs

[loud wadi]

low alt moment

[high smelt]

ye DB's nasod armor screws GS up a lot

[abstract yacht]

is no one gonna mention the Proto title

[dusk dock]

Yes

Got my revenge btw

@willow mural @abstract yacht

[gentle trench]

Do you run a lot of damage reduction sockets as add?

And do you use 2/4 spar 2/4 ame to be more tanky?

[fiery lion]

dekomlev#0 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dusk dock]

@gentle trench one sec

[dusk dock]

No

Artifacts

[dusk dock]

Full spar

Do you need to see my stats?

Add me in game tbh

[gentle trench]

Im at work rightnow

[dusk dock]

Perfect.

[gentle trench]

Yeah Im kinda curious what ur defence and hp is

[dusk dock]

ok

[gentle trench]

Nice

Yesterday there were so many adds in pvp all of a sudden haha

[dusk dock]

@gentle trench

[gentle trench]

I think I played 5-6

[dusk dock]

way too many Genesis for my own liking before rest

Was about to kms tbh

[gentle trench]

I only fought a genesis once so far

And I nearly won too, so I dont have a good indicator of how crazy they are yet haha

[dusk dock]

Consider yourseld lucky.

Check out the vid I sent.

[gentle trench]

Yeah I watched it actually 🙂

[dusk dock]

Before your boss catches you lacking.

Well?

[gentle trench]

Hahaha

[dusk dock]

Did it answer your question

.

[gentle trench]

Haha fair they are pretty good I guess xD

I fought StarMeow yday

20 matches

[dusk dock]

This man said its pretty good like its meter gear solid

Boy

My stats are godlike

[gentle trench]

I only once got him to 70% hp

So only 30% dmg

[dusk dock]

;c

[gentle trench]

Was crazy hes so fast

[dusk dock]

I worked hard for this view (lie)

[dusk dock]

Who

I know the name

[gentle trench]

XD

[dusk dock]

Just not the class

Or char

[gentle trench]

Hes a FP

[dusk dock]

Or person

Or player

Or care tbh

[gentle trench]

Well hes a high SSS player

I heard CC doesnt got sh!!t on FP in a matchup

Well he proved it I guess haha

But the skill difference between us was crazy too, he was years ahead haha

Also its almost impossible to MB on FP’s combos

So I see how Ssllg lost from jushiroh even though hes GS

[dusk dock]

Release me from this prison

[dusk dock]

This is no high SSS

[gentle trench]

Maybe I gotta ask Ssllg to fight me so I get scared of GS instead of FP

[dusk dock]

You are either on board

Or you only got SSS for the chair

Its early season so

He will fade out if he isnt that good tbh

[gentle trench]

Im sure he been star rank before

He was in the hamels guardian tourney

Jushiroh did beat him to pulp but he does also have much better gear

Next time I will record how he slaughters me for u guys xD

[dusk dock]

jesus christ what a lagger

[dusk dock]

Oh yeah?

How far did he go

Tell me now

If you cant tell me

Then he didnt go far enough for you to remember

Ergo

Who?????

[gentle trench]

Ayyy gz

[dusk dock]

Void wep btw

[gentle trench]

I havent watched it yet only like 20min

[gentle trench]

+10?

[dusk dock]

Ofc

Pull up the tourney

Rn

[gentle trench]

https://www.youtube.com/live/tckpMPOao3w?feature=share

[dusk dock]

So he made it top 8

Is that what you are implying?