suggestion list to improve pvp

[viral obsidian]

1. Remove personal quests
   Players circumvent PQs with weak teams at start or taking 3 teams with the same A team. It makes no sense.

2. Players should not attack with their top team and leave a bad one
   Either:

• Force using heroes that are in reserve to attack; or
• Force us to pick a limited number of heroes when a session starts e.g 15 heroes team that must be used for a specific pvp session. No other hero can be used to attack or defend.

3. Same boosted classes for attacking and defending teams in pits
   Both teams would then be on an equal footing.

4. Design all areas like vale
   Paying upgrades makes pvp a spending competition in other areas. This should not be the case.

5. Same energy cost regardless of the structure level (or at least reduce the cost to attack high level structures)
   Give an incentive to try higher level structures.

6. Hide hero stats
   Reward innovative builds and avoid copycats.

[hazy oxide]

1: I don't agree on this. The PQ is one of the reason for Kings club and make it able for other players to get some orbs for there arena heroes even if they can't make it to top 5. A change could be to remove the part where you need to kill 5-10-15 heroes

2: I like the idea, but I see a problem with newer players there don't have many heroes and if there good heroes is lock into a arena they can't use them to take other structure.

4: I agree and maybe more structures as well, maybe 15 instead of 10.

5: I agree on the energy is to high, but i also see the point that if a structure cost a lot of energy to take you should place better heroes to defend it (but this do not happen)

6: Hide the heroes stats and gear would make the top tier arena be more interesting (if we had tier list) I do still agree it would be better to have them hidden so you can't just counter pick and counter gear.

[frosty dragon]

2. That is the entire point.

Why should you spend time putting together a team to defend an asset, moving around artefacts, boosting heroes only for it to be wiped out by someone using a single team of their most powerful heroes to take out everything in every arena, while those same heroes are also defending other PvP assets?

That leaves you to then have to take it back when they put rubbish, a single hero or a team that was not capable of taking the asset to begin with. There used to be strategy involved in attacking and defending structures but now as Mazi said, it's a game of ping pong - take an asset, lose an asset, take an asset, lose an asset, take an asset. You can't defend it most of the time when the likes of Boblin Protector, Fire Mage or whoever is boosted, knowing you're going to get attacked by teams of fully ascended Demetrius/Sentinel/Barb/Marlo/First Mate/etc.

It's boring, there is no strategy involved at all and it's a complete waste of time to prepare teams and move artefacts around, you might as well just stick level one heroes in there.

[hazy oxide]

I agree. I do also now just place 1 hero in my structures. My point is that for newer players they don't have the heroes to place in expedition, mines and then arena and especially there strongest heroes they need other places.

[frosty dragon]

They will all be in the same boat & have to decide where to place their heroes.

They won't be attacking someone with fifteen heroes in the Forest Arena unless they're against someone who is focusing everything on Forest Arena, because they will all be in the same situation.

[hazy oxide]

They wont, there is no tier list so they can be against over players who have the heroes to fight. The old tier list from v2 or v3 did do something so lower powered players had a chance

If 2 should be a great idea (its a good idea now, don't get me wrong) newer players should have a easier time to get new heroes they can use instead of arena becomes a late game feature

[frosty dragon]

There might not be a tier list so people can manipulate their power but there are tiers still, so they will be in the same situation as others in their tier!

Whether they are at the bottom or top end of their current tier is of no concern to me or this suggestion

[hazy oxide]

I know thats how you think.

The old tier system was bad because it did not scale up with the tier rank and kept the same reward for each tier so players manipulate their power to stay in a easier tier

[gloomy kestrel]

I’m going to drink my coffee so I don’t read wrong

[frosty dragon]

You're going to need something stronger than coffee.

[gloomy kestrel]

I just hope I manipulated my power enough to be paired with @hazy oxide

[hazy oxide]

I guess you need to come down to 2700k power then 😅

[gloomy kestrel]

Wait a day or 2 when I start a new account t

[hazy oxide]

I wait and see how fast you can do that 😉

[frosty dragon]

Careful Plear. When I tried to explain why moving the shop around so the free stuff is on the first page and people don't see any offers is a bad idea financially, he attacked me twice in Arena.

[gloomy kestrel]

2700k is 2.7M right?

[hazy oxide]

Did i? 😂

[hazy oxide]

yes, not sure what your power level are at now, not even sure who you are ingame

[gloomy kestrel]

So many ways I could answer that