NTCED Parts Pack

[hasty venture]

hmm

I get the feeling its this section from ship-ctrl.gd

but im not sure

[hasty venture]

@empty crystal quick, I need images for nexus

[empty crystal]

what do you want from me

I don't just have images for your mod handy

[hasty venture]

ANYTHING WORKS

JUST GIBBY

[empty crystal]

I don't have anything

bruh

[hasty venture]

bruh bruh

*I said ANYTHING *

[empty crystal]

just open your own game and take screenshots?

[hasty venture]

lazy

[empty crystal]

like I don't have images I can just give you that work for your shit dawg

[hasty venture]

idk

[empty crystal]

well I'm not doing it for you

[hasty venture]

fineeeeeee

was gonna say anime

[prime flame]

@hasty venture
you have a couple files in you mod that are just full copies of vanilla files (e.g. WeaponSlotUpgrade.tscn & drone-plant.gd), do those have a particular purpose?

i ask since my modmanager is picking them up and overriding actual changes with them

[hasty venture]

uh, basically for referancing or needed

uh let me see in the editor

[empty crystal]

as far as I know your mod has zero reason to include WeaponSlotUpgrade.tscn or drone-plant.gd

drone-pland.gd is definitely un-needed

[prime flame]

basically the issue is they aren't inherited, they're full duplicates, so when the loader picks them up it overrides all inheritance

[empty crystal]

Yeah, those shouldn't be in there then

[hasty venture]

in my mod I don't see the default files

OH

wait

[prime flame]

and i'm trying to figure out if that's a thing i need to deal with or if those are unnecessary

[hasty venture]

release shouldn't-

wait

OH FUCK

[empty crystal]

Yeah, dawg, 1.0 and onwards have had those files in it

[hasty venture]

I FORGOT TO REMOVE

only two files yes?

cuz then I'll reupdate

[prime flame]

i didn't do a thorough check

but quick glance tells me it's just those two

i was so confused why inheritance was getting wiped out

[hasty venture]

yeah my bad on that

[devout peak]

maybe something that could be a neat tool to work on if you ever get free time would be a checker for code compared to vanilla files, and if any files have too much of a similarity it would highlight them to avoid future issues like this

[hasty venture]

it was since the initial commit

[empty crystal]

yeah, throw out WeaponSlotUpgrade.tscn, it's containing folder "Upgrades" and drone-plant.gd

[prime flame]

yeah, there's a lot of room for improvement, but i'm making sure the core concept actually works rn

[empty crystal]

Za'krin out here wondering why his loader isn't working, meanwhile rena with copied over default files

[devout peak]

absolutely, no point making an elaborate tool fixing something that can just be dealt with quickly when the main project is still at hand

[prime flame]

i would never know if the order was just slightly different

[hasty venture]

HUSH

I WAS BEGINNING AT MODDING

REWEEEEEEEE

[empty crystal]

it's fine, it was literally a non-issue up until Za'krin cooked up a fancier loader that just auto loads files and says "modmain? I hardly know her"

[round roost]

on that subject. anything of mine doing it?

[prime flame]

not that i've seen so far

also just made https://discord.com/channels/426287934870781952/1296705616919789598 so i can stop taking over random threads

[hasty venture]

ok, redownload it since its now gone

[empty crystal]

he probably doesn't even need to re-download it

[hasty venture]

LOL

[hasty venture]

ngl, Dual haulers in my mod come in clutch

[north wigeon]

i faintly regained my motivation to mod this game so i tried doing just this mod, fresh download for both the mod and game and still only works inf front of the bay 😭 🙏

i will commit space warcrimes not before seen soon

hold on...

holy shit

disregard my earlier message, the mod is working

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-happy-surprised-chris-pratt-parks-and-rec-gif-5362501

[round roost]

Glad to hear

[hasty venture]

Noice

@cerulean steppe I saw the thing, what's wrong with the UA translation?

[cerulean steppe]

Line for loading it is commented out in modmain

[hasty venture]

Ah, that's weird

Ok, well shit I got work in a few ;w; I'll fix it tonight

Ngl, I thought it was enabled

[round roost]

i think the ZKY modmain we have been using has the UA translation commented out by default

[hasty venture]

Hmm

[round roost]

func _init(modLoader = ModLoader):
l("Initializing")

updateTL("i18n/en.txt", "|")
`#updateTL("i18n/ua.txt", "|")`   < dis one
replaceScene("enceladus/Upgrades.tscn")
replaceScene("ships/modules/AuxSlot.tscn")

[hasty venture]

Right

Swore I enabled it tho

[round roost]

survey for the 1.0 release pack says no

and the 1.0.1 patch

[hasty venture]

as I can see

[hasty venture]

im stuck on what tod do

hurrrr

[empty crystal]

enjoy the game for a while

that's what I've been doing, haven't really worked on much of anything and just beein vibin in the game

[round roost]

And testing my stuff for me lol

Ty

[empty crystal]

Hey, no worries, I've got a vested interest in KTI's success, if they go under, Bootleg looses a sick ass platform to install PDT-Lasers on

[round roost]

lol

[hasty venture]

Ok, news, getting some commissioned artwork :p

[round roost]

oooh

nice

[hasty venture]

when I get time, im updating my lore page lol

[devout peak]

that's pretty cool actually. looking forward to it!

[hasty venture]

yee, first one is gonna be a promotional poster I thought about for these drones lol

tho, with limited info on how they look like, its a vague interpatation

[sweet grail]

They're pretty nondescript. Basically a chunk of propellant with a mirror array.

Best advice on depicting them might be from a distance - they'll sparkle like space glitter, with the propellant discharges and the mirrors reflecting that chaotically.

If you had to depict one close up . . . maybe like a caltrop with really long spikes, a ball of rocket fuel around the vertex where they meet, and at the tip of each spike, brakching arms that hold faceted mirrors in a vaguely spherical shape around it.

[devout peak]

yknow, i just thought, do you take commissions lurkily?

you are an artist after all

plus would be pretty cool to have some of the art portions for a DV mod done by one of the artists too

[hasty venture]

Ah oki, I already have a interpation of what they would look like if they were in person

I can't wait tho lol

Im going all in to this modpack :p

[sweet grail]

Well, I'm a writer, so in that sense I'm an artist. 🙂

I've been involved in a lot of design discussion and decisions, but beyond that my contributions have been largely laying out some event spreadsheets for how to tie some story events together, and dialog writing, though Koder's also written a lot of his own, too.

[round roost]

so do we have you to thank for the wonderful steam updates that get written in lore style?

i love reading every single one of those

[sweet grail]

I have written some of those, but often Koder is too quick for me on those. By the time he starts assembling them, he's rarely in a mood to delay them for long.

The time mismatch doesn't help; the ones I've written have usually been early in the morning for me, before work. By the time I get home, he's getting ready to go to sleep.

[round roost]

ahh i see

[sweet grail]

Right now I'm trying to put down a path forward for a story event, and it's tetchy because I want there to be a little investigation, but question-and-answer means some non-branching, non-decision dialogs, which we're trying to avoid, so I have to walk that tightrope.

[hasty venture]

Safe to say, the drones look about to be as what I think they would look like

Well, NTCED's version anyways

[hasty venture]

Alright

I have updated the wiki and the new artwork is here for the mod :3

@empty crystal don't look to much at the bottom words, had to work with all the info I got around the place lol

@round roost also you too

[round roost]

yooo that looks awesome

[hasty venture]

It doesss

This is the interpretation we had

Cute lil drones

[devout peak]

that looks amazing. really shines like a high-end promotional poster

[hasty venture]

Yesh, I love it, turned out really well with all the info we had

Would've been easier to base it off something already there but yeee

[round roost]

what did that cost btw?

cause that looks great, and if i get enough money i might commission them for the KTI MPDGs and the "TitanXL" XD

[hasty venture]

Well make sure you got something that they can reference off of

[hasty venture]

For a poster, $120 but I got like 2 other variants also so worth

[round roost]

dang nice

[devout peak]

that actually seems pretty reasonable. if I ever get into making mods, might consider it also

[hasty venture]

Yesh

I can post the other two here

But me workin

[round roost]

go for it when you can

lol

[hasty venture]

I have their twitter handle on the GitHub wiki but I could put it here if it's fine

[hasty venture]

@round roost here's the other two alts

[hasty venture]

imagine every in game company having a promtional poster, the Wiki would be full

[sweet grail]

Not sure if it's a combination of mods, but the NTCED milspec prototype doesn't seem to want to activate if any value except zero is set.

[devout peak]

it would be. and that is why I plan on making each mod have its own dedicated page where such things would be perfect, and leaving the modding page with a quick descriptory snippet

[hasty venture]

you are on 1.0.1 right?

that's weird

there was also the new update on the drone stuff so hmm

[sweet grail]

I am unsure. It's hard to keep up with mod versioning, at times.

Let me check the date the file was modified.

[hasty venture]

usually, a quick glance at the mods folder, I put down its verison

[sweet grail]

Oh, it's in the file name. No, I am not. Thanks.

[hasty venture]

yeppppppp

So much easy to just glance at the file name lol

[sweet grail]

I need to make a habit of rechecking gits or subject posts first.

[hasty venture]

lol ye, I update the mod verison at the top so people or newer know

[devout peak]

if only a solid way of checking for updates could be figured out for it, would eliminate most of these sorts of issues

[hasty venture]

yeah

would defo help alot

[devout peak]

maybe if and when Za'krin gets around to overhauling the end-user side of the ZKYLoader, we might see some functionality like it

[hasty venture]

hopefully

[devout peak]

well, that's up to Za'krin really, but hopefully soonish

[hasty venture]

I'm full sending it on this one

[round roost]

yeah i need to start versioning my mod files lmao

[devout peak]

something like a mod_version tag in the modmain or smth I would imagine

[round roost]

yeah but thats not very user friendly

they would need to be experienced modding enough to know to look in that file

[devout peak]

yeah, it would only really be useful if the game or another mod read them

[round roost]

a new user should be able to get a zip, see the version, and pop it in the folder.

[devout peak]

yup

[sweet grail]

Funny thing is, I already downloaded the update, just never placed it.

[hasty venture]

lmfaooooooo

Looking back, it was funny while thinking of how the drones and stuff would actually worked based from lore and game footage

[hasty venture]

Idk why, but this goes hard

[round roost]

I gotta say I love it. But also that it looks like the movie poster for speed. And speed 2

[hasty venture]

Crazy xD

[round roost]

but just barely lmao

[hasty venture]

Tech magaiznes do it too

[round roost]

true

[sweet grail]

In NTCED 1.0.1, some of the dual systems do not always seem to respect the sanbus. I keep seeing two launchers launching to one target.

It's not as obvious in a still, but they're launching from two sources, here.

[hasty venture]

Yeah running into that problem but I think it's cause we never over wrote the vanilla SANBUS just for the sake of saving a headache

[sweet grail]

I didn't notice it using single launchers, so I think it might just be the duals.

[hasty venture]

Yeah it's a problem with duals :/

Since it still uses vanilla sanbus

Me and Za'krin talked about it way earlier

[empty crystal]

I think Advanced Drones actually ended up doing it's own sanbus stuff for multi-drone and related things, so you might want to try and upgrade NTCED to use adv drones as the base instead of multi-drone

it still has the exact same support for multi-drones but it also contains the MPU drones and Yeet Protocol goodies too

[hasty venture]

Oh boi

[empty crystal]

I mean it's basically just multi-drones, but with more functionality available to use

really wouldn't be significantly difficult to switch over to it instead of multi-drones

[hasty venture]

swore I used the updated one tho

[sweet grail]

On a secondary note . . . I wouldn't mind seeing lower-powered dual hauls. Less launch capability per target, less oomph in moving things, but that's the trade-off you make for being able to handle more at once.

Would encourage mixes; single systems for catching runners, dual systems for handling a crowd.

[hasty venture]

Hmm good idea

I'll work on having lower powered models

[hasty venture]

Wdym by less launch capabilities?

[empty crystal]

multi-drones and advanced drones are two different things, I think there's zips for it somewhere in the Mod Dev Discussion thread

[sweet grail]

Like, Haul Drones launch 50ps, dual hauls launch 55ps (I assume that's per target?). Would be an interesting point of balance if the trade-off for handling multiple targets was launching at 30dps per target, instead.

If I'm misreading that, and it actually is launching 27.5 drones per target, then just ignore this.

[hasty venture]

Ah you mean lower the consumption rate

[sweet grail]

AND their effectiveness in moving things, with it, as I assume those go hand-in-hand.

[hasty venture]

Right ofc

I will need to update to advanced and other thing

Might as well do a 2.0.0....

Or not idk

[sweet grail]

"Feeling cute, might update my mods later, IDK."

[hasty venture]

LMAO

idk if it should be considered as v2 update or not

maybe it should

[sweet grail]

I would typically save big versions for big new capabilities, but versioning systems are like assholes. 🙂

[hasty venture]

yeah, tbh, was gonna do 1.5.0 with smaller amount of models but considering what you suggested... we looking at uh, probably alot of models

idk how imma verision this, might as well consider 2.0

[hasty venture]

@cerulean steppe today I find out if you unhash both langugue files, you will fuck up the game

wait

no im dumb, I never put in the lanagugue file in my test verisons

dies

[hasty venture]

@sweet grail new release is out, updates on both Github and Nexus

[hasty venture]

ok now to plan the THICC(ER)

[hasty venture]

https://github.com/Nishikawa-Technologies-Corporation/NTCED-Delta-V-Mod/releases/tag/1.1.0

for everyone to be in the know

right now for other news

working on the THICC(ER) storage

I think it falls under EXSTORAGE

[hasty venture]

right idk wtf is going on

im like

confused

Since I have the left and right scenes but they use the SYSTEM_EXSTORAGE name atm but I dont see EXSTORAGE-R anywhere or EXSTORAGE-L

and also I wanna custom color it

reeee

[cerulean steppe]

I think it's in ship scenes

Here got them

[hasty venture]

ahhhhh

[hasty venture]

thank you

[hasty venture]

Question, what is the actual file called

wait-

stares

I must be really blind

wait no

I still need that file

gah

[cerulean steppe]

StoragePod by the looks of it

[hasty venture]

hnn

no doesnt seem to be it

[hasty venture]

from this screenshot, what file was it?

[cerulean steppe]

I opened K225 (ATK225.tscn) and looked around slots.

[hasty venture]

hmm

weird

dont tell me I gotta do that for all the ships

[cerulean steppe]

Probably this or IoE route

[hasty venture]

sweet gods save me now

Unless Zakrin has any input about this or I just gotta live with the fact I now have to mode every ship

[prime flame]

what are you trying to do

new thicc type?

[hasty venture]

yes

I was trying to do it how I usually do it with the drones

I got like

45% of the way till I ran into the issue of different system names

I have the right and left scenes then was gonna add them to the upgrade UI but then I couldn't due to it

[prime flame]

right, so you already have weaponslot.tscn set up with the equipment, you're just trying to add them to upgrades.tscn now?

I made custom containers before, let me check how they're done

system = "SYSTEM_EXCOM-L"
nameOverride = "SYSTEM_EXCOM"
price = 111000
testProtocol = "detach"```

[hasty venture]

right its like that

problem comes to be the system naming

which is the default one so

idk where to go about

it seems im missing a few steps or not idk

name for the UIs is THICCER LEFT and RIGHT

in relation to the spirties so ye

[prime flame]

sorry, I'm not clear on what part you're stuck on

[hasty venture]

uh

ok so

basically im trying to follow how the default THICC's are done right? when I go to look at the default, the deafult has a Left and a Right System name. I copyed the modules correctly and pathing just like how I did the drones but it seems like I may be missing another compnetant to this setup

[prime flame]

lemme finish eating and I'll take a look

[hasty venture]

sure thing

also it seems the the material stuff get belong to each ship too

and here I also wanted to try making custom colors to them too

[prime flame]

oké am done eating

can i see your zip

[hasty venture]

uh sure thing

has a bunch of old files and all

its my modding/work folder of it after all

[prime flame]

ye, no worries

[prime flame]

okay, here should be what you need to change

[hasty venture]

I'll review it later but it seems like I over reacted from a glance lol

[hasty venture]

alright, after looking at it, I understand now

hmmm question remains how, how do I edit the mesh/color

[hasty venture]

thinking noises

[hasty venture]

Looking to see for anyone using this right now, got a bug report that the drones aren't working as intended again

[prime flame]

@hasty venture here's a patched version of the drone script, it should fix that issue with multiple drones targeting the same chunks.

[hasty venture]

Thank you Za'krin

[hasty venture]

Confirmed fix and hotfix has been pushed out to all sites

[jagged plaza]

so just to check, no compatibility with IOE? I have both and i am not seeing your dreones in the store

[devout peak]

not with the original. it overrides the way slots work, so you won't see any equipment from other mods on any equipment slot that IoE adds equipment for

[jagged plaza]

but i can use your rewrite?

[devout peak]

yeah, it should work

[jagged plaza]

ok i will test it, how do i back up my saves? so i dont bork something

[devout peak]

for backing up saves, you're best copying them to a separate folder that's easy access in the save directory, which operating system are you using as the location will change based upon it?

[jagged plaza]

windows 10

is it "savegame-c.dv/ .dvb"

[devout peak]

yes, the .dvb specifically is a backup of the save from before the current save time

[jagged plaza]

hmm so they show in the shop, but the EXT mil-specs, so far, dont do anything

yea, something is still causing a break in them, the drones show using the compatibility mod, but they dont work on a dive. Dont even show in the J menu

[devout peak]

weird

i'll prob have to take a look in a bit, currently trying to fix the docking bays on the OCPs

[jagged plaza]

the base drones fully work, and also the IOE drones arent in the shop
but yea, now i have my save backedup, and know how to i can guinea pig these

[devout peak]

yeah i did notice the lack of IoE equipment from my testing

[jagged plaza]

hmm apparently, i DONT have base IOE, but your IOER 1.75 and in that one the IOE drones are there

nvm, im dumb

[devout peak]

which ship are you using btw?

[jagged plaza]

Titan atm, i got the IOE big boy, the Frgiate

[devout peak]

yeah def something fishy with the docking bays, having a similar issue on the OCP as well

[hasty venture]

Yeah IOE classic is not compatible with this but with Hev's technically should work as long as the drones between the two don't do something funky

[jagged plaza]

yea, so far just the things posted above, your drones not working in a dive, and IOE(hev's) not even showing in the game, it'll all work out eventually i am sure.

[devout peak]

yeah, i kinda screwed up with the docking bays, hopefully i'll figure it out before long

[stone cape]

anyone else getting an issues with drones not working with ships beyond the starter ship? am not on beta or experimental, tried the eagle prospector and ATK 225 so far and the drones aren't going out to pick stuff up... Tried installing the experimental branch as the hotfix mentions they are now working with experimental version fo the game but no change :(

[devout peak]

i can confirm they don't work on an eagle for me too. they launch for me but don't apply forces to ore chunks

looks like the issue affects vanilla drones as well

[stone cape]

any known mod incompatibilities besides IoE? I'm running better refining, the bootleg stuff, some of the the KT stuff (not the ships) and the old remove ID limit for ore chunks mod

[devout peak]

i think it's a direct issue with NTCED, as it's the only mod i'm running with the test

[stone cape]

that's a dang shame, was hoping to finally realise my dream of having a ring wiping mothership ATK225 :(

[devout peak]

seems to also be a little inconsistent with different equipment too, some work, some don't

[hasty venture]

Awe fuck

I think there was a update that probably tweaked the settings then

[opal pilot]

Are the drones supposed to be tug, haul or both? Their description makes it seem like they are supposed to do both but they never push the rocks into my open excavator like haul drones do

[cerulean steppe]

Haul, wait for update.

[distant gulch]

@cerulean steppe hi! Any news on fix? Or latest change in vanilla game caused deep rework for haul drones?

[hasty venture]

Might need to unpack the game again with the current updates

And hope it fixes itself

[warm oar]

same 😭

[distant gulch]

😭

[warm oar]

I got the same bug with the 7 new companions and THICC from the Derelict Delights mod that I had with the NTCED Parts Pack, where they only appear when equipped to the K37 TNTRL.
I removed other mods one by one until I found that the culprit was the Heavy Cothon mod. Just an FYI.

[stone cape]

one day...

[hasty venture]

Alright

So time to take a look into this

Im wondering since there have been alot of update lately if extracting all the game files with all current updates will work then patching above that would fix it or not

Not sure since I am clueless to all hell getting back into this

[hasty venture]

@cerulean steppe hey also question, where you the one to also mod ship colors or no

[cerulean steppe]

You mean ship skins like in #workshop-archive ? I've done some for personal use. But that's in game feature, not really a mod.

[hasty venture]

Yes and oh

I was attempting to make a custom paintjob for a part

The bigger container

[cerulean steppe]

@hasty venture So in ships it's handled by hull.gd attached to sprite node. Not sure how your container is set up. Then you just use that sprite from files and recolor it. Also not sure how to set script up to use paint job from mod zip if you want that.

[hasty venture]

Oh lord

It sounds complicated

That's why I kinda gave for awhile

[cerulean steppe]

Not really, maybe I'm just bad at explaining it.

Derelict Delights container as example
Script is already attached to sprite

Now all you really have to do is change where it points to and find texture which is right there.

[devout peak]

i believe the pointer does accept files from the internal system (res://), so theoretically you'd just need to point it to the current location of the image

[cerulean steppe]

Hmm actually doesn't appear to work. Maybe look at how vilcy and g4a revenge ships get paint?

Ok if you add texture in first node with ship-ctrl.gd it works, but I guess it hard codes it.

[hasty venture]

I see

Hmm I wanted where it would have the fictional name and blue paint to show it being different

Bleh, first, I'll focus on fixing the mod then return to the thiccer containers

[hasty venture]

If anyone is wondering, yes there is still a planned fix, work has been killing me so I haven't had time to do so

[distant gulch]

i'm interested. Maybe you can give ability to update/fix your mod to someone? like Hev?

[hasty venture]

Should be able to, its really the matter of moving the files to the latest updated verison of the game

Pretty sure you can fork it

[distant gulch]

so You don't mind if someone else "updates" the mod? Thank you.
Hopefully Hev (one of DV's modding Gurus) will see what's broken here after DV updated the hauling drone mechanics.

[hasty venture]

Ye, I think it needs to just referance the new updated files verus the other ones

thats my guess

[distant gulch]

hmm. Ok. thx for the hint! @devout peak

[hasty venture]

Ye, as long as credit is given blah blah all that stuff, im ok with it

if its easier, I can merge into the main from a fork and credit whoever and all

[distant gulch]

@hasty venture Also: This is one of my most beloved mods. Thanks for making this! It was SUPER helpful!

[hasty venture]

Oh yes

but Za'krin is also the one who really helped pull this mod in through too

without the files he made, it wouldn't exist ;w;

I still have some stuff to throw in but time is not on my side

[distant gulch]

like many other mods and skins)

[hasty venture]

yeppp

[devout peak]

hm, the fix may be harder than i first thought. i originally assumed it was that drone code had changed since, but comparing the current build to the latest build on the last release shows that it hadn't

[distant gulch]

F. 😭

[hasty venture]

wait what

so the idea of transferring the files from the updated game is not working??

thats what I thought too

I was gonna have it referance the newly updated game verison so it works

but if what I was gonna do not work then this is a issue ;w;

[devout peak]

one thing i ddn't do was check the code for the SANBUS system, i only checked that for the drone plants themselves

[hasty venture]

ah

yeah, plan was to re-referance everything

so it doesnt cause issues

if that worked then its fixed

[devout peak]

from what i can tell when running the mod thrugh the debugger, the multi-drone systems seems to fail to find targets, and the single-drone systems find targets but don't apply forces

if that's any lead to go on

[hasty venture]

hmmm

is this with after re-referancing all files or some?

[devout peak]

before, there's no problems with references from what i can tell

[hasty venture]

hmm

well I did pull from lastest updated

[devout peak]

i see

[hasty venture]

I think I showed screenshots and compared between the two

[devout peak]

actually, i just thought, i do have a set of backups that do go back as far as when the last release was made, which i guess a binary search could be made through them to find the first version where they break

[hasty venture]

Oh really??

that would be helpful

[devout peak]

hold up, lemmie pull up the repo rq

[hasty venture]

I havent had time to keep tabs really

;w;

I been busy play other games

[devout peak]

fair enough

alright, here we go: https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/DV-Version-Backups

[hasty venture]

oh nice

last time it worked from 1.63.9 eexperimental

so from 1.64.14 onwards we need to check

oh lordy

[devout peak]

yeah, best thing i'd say is to pick the middle version inbetween, then depending on if it works, pick the middle between that and 1.63.9 or the current release, and repeat

[hasty venture]

yep

oh boi

and I got my taxes to do

[devout peak]

oop, maybe something for later

[hasty venture]

yep

very big undertaking

[distant gulch]

😭

[distant gulch]

@hasty venture @devout peak This mod works again!!! WTF LMAO

[hasty venture]

Video now

What version

I NEED THE STATS NO W

WHAT FUCKING BLACK MAGIC DID YOU USE @distant gulch

[devout peak]

actually, i just found a bug with it:

literally unplayable again

[hasty venture]

Sad

[hasty venture]

Was it the SANBUS again?

[devout peak]

no, it's just a typo

"HYBIRD"

[hasty venture]

Hybrid

[devout peak]

instead of HYBRID

[hasty venture]

OH

Wait

How tf did I miss that

Well, it's fine

[devout peak]

yeah, quick fix regardless

[hasty venture]

You gave me a stroke

I thought it was borked yet again

Hev, you can't give me heart attacks like this

[devout peak]

i won't do it again :P

[hasty venture]

@distant gulch but yeah, whenever you can, lmk the version details when it was working

[distant gulch]

all works

HOW

?!

[hasty venture]

@distant gulch I meant the game's version, not mod

[distant gulch]

ok

1.72.13

[hasty venture]

[distant gulch]

save folder with all logs and etc.

game's mods folder

[hasty venture]

Well

im on expertimenal and its working fine

latest and untouched

soooooo

[devout peak]

lol, at least that's good news

[hasty venture]

yep

I been too busy to work on adding other of the planned stuff tho

I wanted longer range ones and more multi ones

also add in a custom painted modified thicc containers

[devout peak]

well, let's hope you get the chance soon

[hasty venture]

hopefully

will say, I think I balanced it out so well the vanilla powerplants cant keep up

[devout peak]

lol i suppose that does help keep it balanced

[hasty venture]

yes

Acutally, the only thing helping my ship is the K-Tech stuff

Military ones are so OP tho

@distant gulch curious, have you gotten to the Mil-spec models in your game?

[distant gulch]

Maybe once or twice, then THAT DV patch came out and all the modified haulers stopped working. Now I'm running 2 dual hybrid. Hopefully I can try Mil-specs soon. Glad to hear everything is working as intended.

[hasty venture]

Works very fine so somehow crisis fixed automatically lol

The power draw is insane though lol

[distant gulch]

not with modded power sources, LOL

[hasty venture]

Yes

Well actually

Even with the mega kti

It drains it so fast

While processing so

[distant gulch]

_<

[hasty venture]

@devout peak btw dunno how much you used my mod but any inputs you wanna give? I am gonna start working on adding new Mil-Spec stuff

im open to ideas on new add-ons

[devout peak]

tbh, and kinda ironically too, i don't actually use mods all that much, especially content mods like this, but from what i recall of this, I'd say that what's already in is pretty good. for ideas, perhaps a set of single tugs and hauls that can handle just outside of visual range, and another idea i've had but never sought to suggest properly is a softer form of nanodrone being an "anomaly handler", which handles only smalligh non-ore items (drones, lifepods, torbernite, etc), at a close range (something like < 200m or smth, and being really slow about it), but something to help with the gathering of those sorts of items

[hasty venture]

Ah I see

so recovery drones and consumer varients that extend just outside of visual range

[devout peak]

yeah, that's pretty much a good approximation of it

[hasty venture]

@devout peak you up

I forgot how to add the UI.TSCN to the Upgrades.TSCN

was it something something Instance child scene?

[devout peak]

lucky u got me right now, i was literally just about to head to sleep

but yeah, you instance a scene (believe it's systemupgradeui.tscn or smth, the other equipment items should reference the same scene, hover over them and it should say)

[hasty venture]

lmaooo

this part?

[devout peak]

yeah

[hasty venture]

ok

its been so fucking long

lol

Im about to drop a op testing equipment

aka me trying to remember so

lol

[devout peak]

fair enough lol

[hasty venture]

This new one is power hungry af

I need to make a new turbine and new cargo hold

[devout peak]

lol i see

[hasty venture]

550MW

of power draw

yes im crazy but also balance

[devout peak]

ok double checked and apparently i was wrong, it's systemshipupgradeui

[hasty venture]

oh

[devout peak]

i completely get u with this tho, i'm completely for the vanilla+ style of mods

[hasty venture]

oh wait

I remember

this is how we did it before

so technically

its more so renaming than anything

[devout peak]

yeah, it makes it a lot easier for duplicating it across lots of slots

[hasty venture]

yes

and when you have so many

its easier to fine and access

[devout peak]

absolutely

i pulled up the upgrades scene for IoER, i have no idea what went through my mind to feel like it had to be done manually

[hasty venture]

yeah

[devout peak]

actually, i think it's because it was copy-pasted, as Space did it the same way for the original IoE

[hasty venture]

yeahh

so I did this all manually

omg

a pain

[devout peak]

yup, i'm gonna add this to the list of features i want to add to my library mod, as it would probably be a huge help to have it added programmatically instead of being added to each slot in turn

[hasty venture]

mhmm

I still need to work on my modded containers and figure out how to paint them

aka no time for it rn

now

if I didnt add in said mod yet but its in the list

would it break the game

[devout peak]

shouldn't do

[hasty venture]

it has a UI screen in the upgrades thing

but idk

[devout peak]

hold on, i don't think we're talking about the same mod, which mod is this specifically?

[hasty venture]

mine :p

[devout peak]

o

[hasty venture]

So here I have the UI for the soon to be upgraded cargo pods

problem is I dont have it really worked in there yet

I got everything in place but

should I delete it or having the UI there be ok?

[devout peak]

ohh, ok now i see what you're saying. (i really do need sleep lol). but having it there should be ok, it just won't do anything when trying to interact with it

[hasty venture]

oki

all fine then

now go sleepppp

thank you so much

[devout peak]

np

[hasty venture]

can defo say it works

[hasty venture]

well

its time to tweak it now

[devout peak]

ooh, looking forward to it

[hasty venture]

I may have gone too overboard on their pulling rates lol

[devout peak]

lol, would not be the first time that super speed drones have been made for fun #1290925501250273343 message

[hasty venture]

ah yes, the good old days

[devout peak]

absolutely lol

[distant gulch]

Hi Rena-chan! So... How about new Mil-Spec Haul/repair drones with a build-in drone printer? Efficient in terms of material usage, but energy-consuming. And yes, print volumes should be added up. And a prototype that is inefficient in terms of material use, but less energy intensive.

[distant gulch]

Hmm. I use 2+ haulers, so sometimes the ores near my ship behave similarly, but not as fast, most of the time. Haha.

[hasty venture]

Oki, seems like something I should consider more

[sweet grail]

If ore is moving too fast around where it's supposed to collect, the tuning for the deceleration range will be useful. Things nearby will move slowly, but as long as you're capturing it all, that's what matters, right?

[hasty venture]

Gotta be a work in progress

I wanted to make a god tier one ngl lol

me just grinding for it

[tribal yacht]

Seems like only the dual haul set of drones work. The others have zero effect on ore, they dont move them.

[hasty venture]

thats weird

and this is latest??

[main trail]

I’ve run into a problem: I’ve equipped the drones in the equipment tab, but when I go into a dive the drones are gone… No toggling in Geologist tab, and no drones are flying out to collect ore. Help

Maybe it’s related to IoER?

[hasty venture]

You're using it with IoER?

I used it with some other mods but not with IoER and it worked fine for me

[main trail]

Yeah I am, it’s probably causing problems. Thx!

[hasty venture]

Yep yep

[autumn roost]

Hold on a moment

Uggghh
Thought this was a mod that added
DRONE drones
and not just microdrones

I fucked around and found out and apparantly Derelict Delights adds new drone companions, and I have NO idea where it gets those from

I'll do some more experimenting on my end but I'm so sorry

Well, some good news at least

I did test it with IoER, and the nanodrones work perfectly fine

[limber prism]

they are broken in my save

[autumn roost]

Well, dealt with enough nonsense personally

I think the newer version of the mod may address this? It changes how things are added, it's a bit broken (referring to IoER)

But hopefully with the usage of hevlib things can be made more compatible

I'm just gonna wait until the newer versions are cleaned up more

[hollow marlin]

Is it safe to assume this mod is non-functional? My experience with it varies from the drones not moving ore to not appearing at all in the geologist tab.

[hasty venture]

Are you using it with another mod or by itself

[exotic sable]

this mod does not play well with IndustriesOfEnceladus and also appears to have incompletely implemented functions, I did a lot of personal work on it on my end and I'd love to talk about fixing it up for a proper updated release at some point

still a very fun mod, i love the multiple drones implementation

[devout peak]

try this. it should work now, but requires HevLib to function (although if you're using IoE it shouldn't be a problem)

also, @hasty venture see if this patch works for you too, might be a good thing to have it updated on github and nexus too if others have the issue as well

[exotic sable]

seems to work so far, going to do more thorough testing now

[hasty venture]

Alright, thank you Hev!

[cyan remnant]

i just installed this version of the mod (used to run the one found on nexus) and while the drones show up now and actually fly out, they dont seem to do anything to the ore chunks

[devout peak]

weird, they worked in the sim for me, but i might've had a different setup. if it's ok with you, do you mind filling out this form (just put the mod's name under other), and i can take a look later: https://forms.gle/vUoarawnYjy3hXJi9

[devout peak]

Ok, looks like the dual haulers m.o.d. and the dual hybird harvester class still work, but the other 4 do appear to be broken. I'll look further into what separates those two from the others

[devout peak]

Ok, very weird cause, but I believe it's because those two are custom modules while the rest instance the vanilla drone mount

Which I suppose also makes sense, as the same thing happened with IoE's drone mounts

[devout peak]

@hasty venture i've made a pull request to merge the fix here, and in the meantime here's a compiled zip too. This should have all drone units working, at least a test i did with a titan with all fitted worked

@cyan remnant try this patch

[hasty venture]

Oop, yeah I did see that pull request, I just haven't had time to merge it

Let me go ahead and merge it and also update stuff

Honestly, I have been out of the loop and might just do a co-contributor, haven't had time to work on stuff lately

[devout peak]

That's fine, figured life was happening with u. I am happy that the age old issue with some mounts not working is solved now though

[cyan remnant]

they seem to work now

[hasty venture]

so new release has the fixed stuff and should be working

[devout peak]

@hasty venture i've made a minor maintenance patch through a pull request. not required, but it fixes the HevLib checker, and updates the manifest

[hasty venture]

Sounds good, I'll give it a look and merge it

[finite elbow]

Can this mod work with this modlist or is it outdated? Is it safe to add mid-save?

[devout peak]

github version should be compatible with, and mid save should also be ok

[finite elbow]

Thanks for the reply 🙂

[outer fulcrum]

The Dual Hybird Harvester seems to let ore drift away from 750m compare to THI Harvester