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#Mod Development Discussion/Help
paper spade
left grove
freakin saint you are
paper spade
I'd be a monster if I showed that one off, explained what it did, and who made it, and then just said "yeah nah, you're on your own"
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paper spade
that was my first attempt to dive into modding, making the grinder not annoyingly loud, and Za'krin ended up scooping that one up and taking care of it in like 5 minutes cause I still had NO clue what I was doing at that point
left grove
lol
paper spade
kinda sad the larger excavator didnt work. it looked GREAT in godot
you'd probably have to adjust either it's position, or the shape/collision on it, or something like that to get it to more accurately work with the titan
not really sure, but I kinda figured there'd be a liiitle bit more than just "Slap it in and scale it up or down" ๐
left grove
i had the collision customized. the ship hull collider customized. the position customized. it looked PERFECT
but then in game it shrinks back down
paper spade
miiiiiight need some more fine tuning, or maybe there's something about setting the open and close limits that influences it doing that or not?
left grove
who knows. i know how to somewhat do it now. so i can always try again later
left grove
its not that its not fully closing. the jaws shrank back down in game
paper spade
ohh
left grove
in editor is fully closed perfect. in game the scale didnt keep
paper spade
might need to make a close of that excavator and just scale it up in that scene and then inherit it into the slot or however you're getting it on to the ship
?
paper spade
maybe you have to scale up whatever is able to be assigned to that slot too?
just trying to spark an idea or something, I don't really have much clue about how these ships work ๐
left grove
for now. i think this thing is somewhat ready? minus the large excavator. it has the arms. the lasers. the capacity.
ill worry about the excavator later
paper spade
yeah, big mouth is just extra overkill on the overkill cake
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I need my hands on it so I can dealer shuffle until i get a listing for it
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left grove
let me make one quick test dive to the edge to confirm everything
paper spade
ship explodes immediately after leaving the dock
left grove
hey maybe
last night i managed to cause the ship to eject all the THICCS during the launch animation. and then crash the game
zarkin said that was an achievment
paper spade
too much thrust 5 titan
left grove
nope it was collisions
i had modified the cargo bay to be like the Breakbulk variant, but keep the thiccs. which collided into the cargo bay and shot them out of the cradles
paper spade
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who knew trying to force a container into a slot specifically designed to no longer have a container resists having containers
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left grove
ok im gonna throw this zip directly at you digi. its temporary cause its special
paper spade
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hollow pewter
but then in game it shrinks back down
imagine the view of this from the front perspective. shit would look like doc ock
left grove
XD
neon yacht
@paper spade
paper spade
Yeet Protocol lives again!
neon yacht
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paper spade
For real, it's gonna be so nice to clear out the hundreds of chunks of garbage I don't want from the surrounding 800m around my ship at all times
paper spade
Gather an Oreb, and then Launch the Oreb at something/someone
Delete an Obontu with an Oreb 
hollow pewter
set the AP to target a chunk that fails the check and watch as it carries the chunk through rocks, demolishing them in the process
paper spade
It's actually hilarious watching a drone with decent tug and haul power grabbing ore stuck behind ringoids and just pulling those ringoids in slowly by smashing the ore into the rock
hollow pewter
i can imagine
neon yacht
apparently this wasn't enough lol
deft bane
lol
hollow pewter
It's actually hilarious watching a drone with decent tug and haul power grabbing...
out of mass driver ammo but forgot to downsize the nanodrone storage? no problem
paper spade
apparently this wasn't enough lol
might need to give it more tug power to really create the Yeet
or just more absurd velocity values
hollow pewter
wait isn't this like a large-scale fission simulation at this point tho
ore chunks get flung into rock, rock splits into more ore chunks, ore chunks get flung into more rocks, repeat
paper spade
Oh god.... now what does it look like when a piece of ore riccochets off of another ringoid and returns to sender
death
neon yacht
ore chunks get flung into rock, rock splits into more ore chunks, ore chunks get...
Kessler syndrome my beloved
hollow pewter
indeed (i forgot it had a name)
neon yacht
***death***
the hauls can't even bring it to your ship without slamming it into you with this much power
hollow pewter
just thought, could this theoretically be it's own equipment type perhaps
paper spade
the oscillation of ore in front of the ship with an over powered drone is a hilarious sight
neon yacht
just thought, could this theoretically be it's own equipment type perhaps
personally i don't really see a situation where i'd sacrifice a slot for it
hollow pewter
fair
could be a toggle between pull and push hauls, and have each using different variables, but i guess that's what the filter is for
paper spade
Yeah, in theory it could be it's own piece of equipment, but I definitely wouldn't be able to justify a slot just for drones that clear unwanted ore around me
hollow pewter
ooh
neon yacht
i think i'll make my multidrone mod into an actual mod, and people who want to add fancy drones can just inherit it into their own mod
hollow pewter
that's actually pretty cool
albeit i guess you do that sort of thing a lot now, guess you could say you're the "Messiah" of ฮV's modding scene
(i've been playing a lot of oneshot recently so that term is the first one that came to mind)
hollow pewter
fair enough
i think you've been a major part of the modding scene the entire time i've been a part of the community
so i guess it only checks out
now that i think about it, basically every recently made mod uses part of your modloader replacement functions, so i suppose you literally are a backbone of it
paper spade
his modmain is basically the golden standard for templates to use
you may not always use the helper functions in it, but when you do, they're great
hollow pewter
yeah i've seen
paper spade
it's starting to get weird to me looking at modmains that aren't templated off of Za'krin's
"what is this foreign ancient magics?!"
hollow pewter
i can see why they would be, as Za'krin does put a good reasoning to using them too: "I found these functions to either be too limited, or in the case of addTranslationsFromCSV(), no longer functional. To remedy this, I have provided some replacements that I use on my own mods."
heck even a tiny mod that i use that overrides a whole two lines uses it, it's crazy how universally important it is
paper spade
Yep, his translations function is primo, and his extendScript function is really nice cause it gets the relative path for you, so you can just do like enceladus/upgrades.tscn instead of the full mymodfolder/enceladus/upgrades.tscn
which isn't much, but it's very nice
makes copying and pasting modmains between mods and just tweaking things as needed much easier
hollow pewter
yeah, not to mention i've also found it helpful as i've renamed the root folder of my own mod a good few times, and it's nice being a tiny thing i don't need to worry about
paper spade
Yeeep, it's a small thing, but it really stacks up as a lovely QoL thing
hollow pewter
yknow, because it's so universally used, i wonder if an implementation of it's functions could be worked into the current modloader, alongside the older (i suppose "legacy") functionality as well
probably something for @neon yacht to figure out though, it is their work after all
neon yacht
haha, that would be crazy
hollow pewter
it would, but you never know
hollow pewter
haha, that would be crazy
also i only just saw but you're running a 4070! man you've kitted out your pc
neon yacht
it's real nice
hollow pewter
i can imagine lol
neon yacht
some of my projects still abuse it a bit too much lol
hollow pewter
LMAO wtf are you doing
neon yacht
lots of horrible things involving transparent windows overlayed ontop of the screen.
the actually useful one is this
picks up my voice and displays it on screen
then when i hit enter it pastes it into chat
i use it to talk in games without having to type
left grove
apollogies for buggin you while you are cooking some drone magic up. Can you take a look at my mod and see whats wrong with it @neon yacht when you get a chance is fine, not a huge rush.
I have been going insane looking at one of my new ships that suddenly stopped working today. I cannot find the main reason. the dv_log0.txt shows the mod loading fine. but then says "no such ship: Kitsumo-KTI" i have gone over every section of code that names the ship and tried multiple different variations to get it working.
left grove
i use it to talk in games without having to type
thats freakin sweet
neon yacht
apollogies for buggin you while you are cooking some drone magic up. Can you ta...
yeah, i can take a look
left grove
the not working version. not sure why
neon yacht
thats freakin sweet
it also nukes my cpu
(ignore the dragon)
left grove
LMAO why is there a dragon
gonna afk for a few min. dinner and dog walk, just @ me with the results if you find anything
neon yacht
why would there not be a dragon
neon yacht
LMAO why is there a dragon
paper spade
haha, that would be crazy
woah
deft bane
whoa
neon yacht
so 2 issues:
first, the file paths you had in modmain.gd were incorrect (perhaps from a previous version)
second, in currentgame.gd and shipyard.gd, you were using two different spellings, "KITSUMO-KTI" and "Kitsumo-KTI"
left grove
its been driving me up a wall for 3 hours lmao. i tried combinations for everything checked the spelling on all of it too.
probably getting a case of code blindness lmao
left grove
so 2 issues:
first, the file paths you had in modmain.gd were incorrect (perhaps...
TY. gonna go make these changes and test again
then i get to tackle having it show up in the dealer preview lmao
neon yacht
something is being cooked
left grove
that dragon just broke those rocks with its sick moves
neon yacht
left grove
i am actually excited to see the code on these lmao
paper spade
Now all that's missing is drones that scoop bodies and other things the arm will but the drones won't
hollow pewter
wait u just gave me an idea: NT companion variants equipped with haul drones that mine and bring ores to you using those instead of how they work currently
left grove
ooooh
and thats safer than strapping a laser on them
hell you could give them an MPU and redock them to transfer the processed ore over while refueling them for another run
hollow pewter
that too
left grove
i wish i knew how to do any of that XD
hollow pewter
lmao, a steeper learning curve. im sure it could be done tho
neon yacht
how the hell am i gonna make this look good
i somehow need to make the drones go out and then back
- make the ore 'puff' when it vanishes
- idk some particles or something
neon yacht
drone-based kinetic weapon + ranged MPU
deft bane
gotcha
ngl, its one of my things todo lol
was because someone mentioned it and sparked my interest
neon yacht
my script extension is already almost the same size as the base script
my brain is a puddle of goo
deft bane
lol
neon yacht
whoops
dark pike
You know, one thing I haven't seen in a mod, I don't think, is a hardpoint-based factory for consumables. Something I'd always would like to have seen, since the voyager is so useful in some ways, but also so cumbersome in others. And I think a hardpoint is a fair sacrifice for that capability.
naive patio
Would it be a bad idea to start a 'mod request' thread? I just had an idea, and it feels like things could get buried in this very busy thread
left grove
probably not bad at all.
just have a set structure to it so that when someone posts an idea they include some sort of standardized hashtag so we can search through the ideas list
like.
mod idea
mod name:
mod idea description:
paper spade
I'd maybe call it "Mod Ideas" just so there's a place to put ideas that won't get buried, would accomplish the same thing without making anyone feel like they're being a bother
paper spade
like.
#
mod idea
mod name:
mod idea description:
yee, something like this
naive patio
Awesome, thx. Starting the first suggestion rn
dark pike
Pinned that thread.
naive patio
Could probably just combine keyword and tag? Looking at it now ๐
Just make sure pineapple is the FIRST tag?
dark pike
Would have pinned this one, too, but it looks like you can only pin one entire thread. I figured that would would me more what randos are looking for.
left grove
the keyword is for mod makers to have a search tag
something not likely to come up in conversation about DV
naive patio
Right, but it probably doesn't need its' own heading in the post, right?
left grove
i suppose
naive patio
I'll change one of the two, and you tell me? That way we can compare easy, side by side.
left grove
Mod Tags & Keyword:
dark pike
You can search IN a chat room, right? If you're already searching, you can contstrict it to that thread, I think.
naive patio
Yeah, you can do "in:"
dark pike
Only in channels, not threads. :/
naive patio
Really? Huh....that's a choice
left grove
discord being discord lmao
left grove
https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-owen-wilson-amazing-wonderful-gif-6103373
agreed with your second version
paper spade
how exactly do these values work, just want to make sure I actually understand what lowering or increasing them is doing
naive patio
Looks like 'max health' for capacity?
left grove
@paper spade my RCS thrusters that constantly got bent had low Capacity stats
so thats the main health of that damage stat
paper spade
okay, that's what my working assumption was
naive patio
Then threshold is where it begins to show as 'damaged' in the mechanic tab maybe?
left grove
possibly. never figured that one out
left grove
threshold is the force required i think
considering i just ran a test by smacking my RCS against a rock
naive patio
I could see that. I've bumped things before without causing any damage at all, very lightly. IRL you would get something from every bump, but from a game setting, that doesn't really make much sense
left grove
im bumping fast enough to cause the adrenaline booster to activate. lol
yeah i gotta reduce the threshold on my RCS. bonked them good and no change
paper spade
oof, don't know if I'll make it back in time to re-buy my OG Titan just for the sake of collection
left grove
that might have 3 days left in the shop
paper spade
Wasn't sure how much longer I had, cause I sold it a while ago in-game wise
hollow pewter
time to tune down xenon usage then
paper spade
I already rock 0 xenon
left grove
im givin you an estimate i dont know the exact time but 3 days feels safe
paper spade
but I sold 2 salvaged ships and the OCP I wasn't actually using to get the money to buy it back, now I'll do a run and get the money to re-buy the OCP
left grove
ah good idea
left grove
yeah
hollow pewter
do you have access to the G4A station at all?
left grove
probably 10 days on that OCP
paper spade
nope, I've only just started seeing JG4 transponder ships
my game has not been very kind on that front, or I've missed the opportunity on more than one occassion
left grove
dont worry i havent either
hollow pewter
sadly the transponder tag doesn't correlate with the Ganymedians, so you might be seeing a false positive
shame though, as you might have to spend way longer making that million or so
paper spade
shame though, as you might have to spend way longer making that million or so
"spend way longer" it'll take me 20 minutes tops to pull in the ~1.3M the ship is worth
hollow pewter
fair enough, forgot you had that thing
hollow pewter
indeed
left grove
fair enough, forgot you had that ***thing***
left grove
lmao
hollow pewter
pffff ok you got a laugh out of me. made a fool out of myself in the process as i'm at work too
left grove
XD
paper spade
neon yacht
any thoughts on how this looks?
left grove
looks good to me!
neon yacht
the one thing i want to do (but will probably be a nightmare) is to have the drones go out and then back
since they need to bring the processed ore back somehow
left grove
hmmm
any way you can code it to play the drone sprite flying to the rock in reverse after it has a grip on the chunk?
neon yacht
so the main thing is all of this behavior is in the drone-plant.gd script, and i'm trying really hard to keep it that way. But i think in order to do that i need to modify the DroneLaunchManager.gd as well
left grove
ah
neon yacht
orrrrr
i get really funny and spawn an invisible dronemanager that i teleport to the roid's position every frame
nothing bad could possibly come of this !
left grove
sounds laggy
dark pike
I believe the drones are supposed to be a shader? It's been a while since we talked about the graphics for those.
left grove
the drones being shaders kinda makes a ton of sense as to why zakrins infinidrone launching 1000 of them was murdering my GPU lmao
neon yacht
it's a set of 3 particle emitters, with a launch point, target point, and special behavior for when the two are close together.
i would have to make a return stream and then modify the code for it
left grove
ah
maybe explain it away in lore or something then
"ore particulate material is siphoned along the drone stream back to the mothership for storage as processed material"
neon yacht
ah but there's something you'll learn about me
i want it done this way
so it's gonna happen one way or another
left grove
XD
dark pike
I think they'd literally have to cut chunks off and carry the chunklets back, realistically.
Latch on, use the mirrors to cut bits off, then kick the bits all the way back to the ship by kicking the latched-on drone propellant with lasers.
Now an ARM with a built-in MPU, that might make a lot of sense.
neon yacht
that would actually be pretty reasonable to make i imagine
left grove
OCP and Titan-KTI enjoyers rejoice as the ARM-1500 soon might support MPU refining lmao
neon yacht
i do wonder about the refining speed required for it to feel useful
it wouldn't make much logical sense for it to be very fast i imagine
but in gameplay terms, having to hold on to a chunk right infront of your cargo bay for an extended period of time makes even less sense
left grove
unless its vacuuming up the chunks along that thick cable / tube that goes along the arm directly into the storage
neon yacht
i mean, that's the whole point of what an mpu does
is break down the material so that is possible
paper spade
drones that delete the ore when it doesn't pass the vibe check instead of yeeting the ore that doesn't pass the vibe check 
I'm very guilty of straight up littering the rings with thousands of pieces of ore left behind cause it was all trash
left grove
lol
neon yacht
it's a little buggy, but the idea is there
left grove
eyyyy but it works
paper spade
ohhh sick
left grove
imo looks pretty dang nice
paper spade
yeah, where's the buggy?
the drone pop at the end when it's done?
ahh, I see, it spawns the return stream from the piece of ore in a slightly weird way before the inital "to the ore" stream has fully reached the piece of ore
paper spade
still a really solid first showing
neon yacht
paper spade
I had to look closely to really notice any quirkiness
neon yacht
seeing what i can cook up
neon yacht
it still has that ending bug, but looks much nicer now
hollow pewter
couple of thoughts (i've only just seen the work on the MPU drones):
- I wonder if it'd be possible to have the geologist update the water content of the ore chunk while it's being processed, allowing an estimated time to complete the process for a chunk (although it'd only update at best every few secs)
- would be a second variant that doesn't completely process the chunk, only taking the water content out of it for remass be a good option to have along side this version?
neon yacht
I wonder if it'd be possible to have the geologist update the water content of the ore chunk while it's being processed
very possible, yes, but would either have to override the code, or give your geologist insane xp
hollow pewter
gotcha
neon yacht
and it might look weird, as the geologist error would cause the values to jump around
hollow pewter
true, it would have to only work while being processed and have a severe delay also
neon yacht
but it is something i have on the backburner if i think of a nice way to do it
hollow pewter
sounds good
i've just thought of a few ideas that i'm gonna add on a couple of things to the second idea i had, mainly for balancing and realism purposes
a remass-only harvesting set of drones would likely work by cutting out chunks of ice and leaving the ore, but would not be able to get a decent bit of the ice due to it being stuck between parts of the ore chunk that are too close, and would also not work for the ore part (would probably use an equation to figure out how much ice to leave behind, maybe stopping at around 1/50th of the mass of the ore). this could also be used in tandem with the full MPU drones, except those don't process remass and would lose some of it, at the cost of needing to be more hands-on to get the more remass efficient deal
deft bane
oooo
neon yacht
i have just come to the unfortunate conclusion that i need to make new mpu-equivalent behavior from scratch to do what i want
it'll be really cool though, so totally worth it ;)
left grove
oh?
can you make the drone print cost and time a variable while you are at it?
i think me and digi would love to be able to tweak the print speed
neon yacht
doesn't better refining already allow for that
left grove
only the refining speed and the print speed can only go as low as 0.01 so idk if that can be changed any more..
but not the drones cost.
the code for the MPU states that as a constant.
hollow pewter
the constants can be changed, by either changing the constant, or just not using it in overriding code
left grove
oh?
i was under the impression that it couldnt be changed
based on the guide Zakrin made for an introduction to modding
hollow pewter
iirc it can only be done with functions, but you could just copy-paste the MPU code and input your own numbers anyway
left grove
it'll be really cool though, so totally worth it ;)
you might want to wait tho will the 1.6 patch hits? since it changes some of the MPU code
left grove
iirc it can only be done with functions, but you could just copy-paste the MPU c...
so basically just what better refining does, but use the entire script as the extend?
hollow pewter
smth like that. i have delved into some modding with changes like this but not much, but should be totally possible
left grove
interesting. something to test later for sure
left grove
ohh nice
paper spade
Za'krin out here rebasing his decompile after every patch cause he's smart
neon yacht
i did it specifically because the mentioned mpu changes
looks like it shouldn't affect any of my stuff though
paper spade
anyone got any clue off the top of their head how you'd widen the beam on a pulse laser? I wanna experiment with a slightly wider beam for my Bootleg PDT-Laser, but I'm lost on how that bit is being done
neon yacht
uhhh, you don't
paper spade
RIP
neon yacht
it's a raycast, so it has no width
paper spade
neon yacht
technically you could convert it to a shapecast, but i have a suspicion that would be very hard
paper spade
sounds like script programming shenanigans, which is largely outta my wheelhouse right now
neon yacht
yeah, when i say "very hard" i usually mean "i have no idea how" lmao
left grove
its scary when Za'Krin doesnt know how to do it.
thats how you know its eldritch knowledge lol
paper spade
see if that widens the beam
if it's a raycast and not a shape cast I don't think the width of the beam is gonna do anything
neon yacht
var hitpoint = space_state.intersect_ray(global_position, global_position + ray.rotated(global_rotation), ship.physicsExclude, 35)
paper spade
other than visual changes of course
neon yacht
`var hitpoint = space_state.intersect_ray(global_position, global_position + ray...
yeah, that's a ray alright, and better yet this means it doesn't know how to handle multiple collisions either
paper spade
so disco laser definitely needs some monkeying around to make happen, aka not a task for this jabrony right now
neon yacht
...fat lasers would be very funny though
paper spade
I just want to widen the beam so it's like just a smiiiiidge wider than an ore chunk, so it can still hit ringoids behind ore chunks
cause those lil bastards get in the way connnnnstantly, but I do suppose that's part of the intended trade-off
left grove
isnt the MWG a raycast as well?
paper spade
lol accurancy
paper spade
isnt the MWG a raycast as well?
Imma take a wild guess and assume it's shapecast and not raycast
left grove
that ones wide. maybe see if you can slap the MWG beam onto your lasers?
bootleg the bootleg
neon yacht
oh my god
left grove
im scared
paper spade
I got no clue what I'm looking at
paper spade
controlled by the beam shape in the weapon scene? 
neon yacht
it just shoots a ray randomly within the microwave cone
paper spade
oh
left grove
XD
neon yacht
the microwave is just a laser
left grove
shotgun ray go!
neon yacht
it's literally a shotgun laser
paper spade
left grove
so the MWG is a laser shotgun with low power so it takes longer to effect the rocks lol
if it works it works
paper spade
well lower power, and possibly no kinetic damage
cause MWGs do the whole EMP thing and thermal transfer, and laser do the ablative and heat thing
iirc
neon yacht
yeah, the actual damage properties are different
paper spade
but it functions like a laser does mechanically within the engine, but shotgun
dark pike
Yah, mikes are just a raycast shotgun.
Well, a very inaccurate machine gun, since I think it's one by one, but you know.
paper spade
Za'krin is about to disco laser so hard in a minute
he's doing it right now, I can feel it
left grove
but it functions like a laser does mechanically within the engine, but shotgun
every single frame is a new raycast. so yeah minigun laser
neon yacht
he's doing it right now, I can feel it
it's so tempting
paper spade
wide-beam and disco-laser, they can be real, cause you're smart enough
neon yacht
i gotta finish these drones first
paper spade
the backlog grows
neon yacht
lasers coming eventuallyโข๏ธ
paper spade
neon yacht
speaking of drones
i have now oficially more than doubled the length of the drone script
left grove
@neon yacht sorry to bug ya. does toggling the visibility of something in godot make it not appear in game? or just in the godot scene
im gonna test it but want to be sure im not breaking something when i do lol
neon yacht
it makes it invisible in-game as well, assuming that nothing else sets it to visible again
left grove
gotcha ty
neon yacht
still a couple things i'm not happy with
the actual mechanics all work, now it's just a matter of polish
paper spade
niceee
left grove
the actual mechanics all work, now it's just a matter of polish
cant wait to see the polished version. im already planning to add them to my titan and make it a drone beast. or just buy another one and make that the drone beast.
fack forgot to turn off the damn @
neon yacht
i think i'll put together an actual release tomorrow
been working on this off-and-on throughout the entire day basically
i think it looks great, would love feedback aswell
i will leave you with my favorite line of code
left grove
Looks amazing
dark pike
I think it would be best to keep conversation out of the megathread, when at all possible; better to ping that person to come over here.
paper spade
I think it would honestly be better if the Mods Ideas was it's own forum section similar to how Workshop is, then discussion pertaining to a certain idea can continue in it's own thread before it potentially reaches a stage that would warrant it's own development thread in Workshop.
But I do agree
I only bring it up because the current format for it is in a channel style that kinda encourages regular chatting behavior instead of on-topic threading
granite robin
@paper spade hey do you install only AchieveDeez, AcheetaDeez or both at the same time? Goofed a bit with save edit to see which crew members I should bring more in dives and overwrote main save, so I'm now cheetah ๐
paper spade
Only one a time, AchieveDeez does modded
Acheeta does modded and cheated
but I'm fairly positive the way they're both written would cause fuckery to ensue if they're both loaded at the same time
or it might just end up "which ever loads last wins" since they touch basically the exact same function/check
but yeah, should just need AcheetaDeez to be good to go ๐
I knew having both versions would be handy for someone some day glad I did it like that
paper spade
@neon yacht sorry to ping you, but I'm curious about a drone related thing and you seem to be rather familiar with them at this point
Is it possible to make the drones grab things like bodies and life pods and toblerones without any scripting? Or is that something that would require some level of patching things?
paper spade
based on my quick experiments and looks at the game's scripts for the docking arm and the drone plant.... loooooks like it probably requires patching drone behavior to make it work.
Yeeeah, I'm basicaly 100% certain it'd require patching the drone-plant.gd to have a similar setup to the DockingArm.gd. Not just a simple changing of Collision masks or layers
paper spade
#1295484079696904194 message @hollow pewter wait what? they do?
(trying to not clog up the ideas thread with general discussion of things)
hollow pewter
oh right, but yeah they do
paper spade
I've never had them do that.... I assume the unmarked filter needs to be on?
or are you talking about drones like companion drones? because I'm talking about the nanodrones. Just wanna make sure I'm on the same page
hollow pewter
I've never had them do that.... I assume the unmarked filter needs to be on?
yeah the unmarked needs to be on
left grove
shit wish i had thought to turn that on last time i had to chase a pod
175m/s dash after a pod in my titan in a propeller field
even with the BLI lasers and my stupid RCS and torch, pucker factor was HIGH
neon yacht
<@367512738521415680> sorry to ping you, but I'm curious about a drone related t...
yeah, you got it right, would require patching the drone-plant.gd
paper spade
Yeeeah, I figured, thanks for the confirmation ๐
paper spade
yeah the unmarked needs to be on
huh, so they do... wild.
neon yacht
As i teased a few times, i'm working on a new ModLoader for the game. Anybody willing to be sacrifices beta testers for it?
paper spade
what's it do, and what's it gonna break
left grove
paper spade
I'm currently staring at DockingArm.gd and drone-plant.gd trying to understand anything and I feel.... not great
neon yacht
well, any mods that use variations of my modmain should work just fine, but the very old mods that require the original modloader will not work. as much as i love backwards compatibility, i also think that we should try to set a higher standard for mods.
paper spade
I can't argue with that
neon yacht
the main reason for making it is so that you don't have to keep copying the modmain, and just use the functions straight out of the modloader
and i have some ideas on how to make mods support eachother better in the future
as well as tools for mod makers to use like easily adding settings/controls/whatnot
for example, all of the main functions used can be simplified to stuff like this
paper spade
ooooh, nice nice
left grove
i think the only mod in my list that this would break is better refining
but i can probably just slap your newer modmain on that and have it working
paper spade
I have a couple it would break, but wouldn't be nearly that complicated to fix it
I gotta stop lookin at these other scripts though, my brain hurts now
left grove
just do what i do.
throw it into chatGPT and have it explain it to you. then read what it says and vaguely understand the code at a bare minimum level. XD
paper spade
was trying to figure out how the salvage arm knows what bodies and other anomalies are but the drone-plant doesn't, since they both seemingly know what life pods are, but I'm gonna fry my last brain cell
every time I think it shouldn't be that hard to look at things and slowly understand what they're doing, I'm sorely mistaken, at least for my abilities
neon yacht
if people want to try it, here you go
it loads as a normal mod, and then checks for a folder called 'mods' inside the mods folder (so you have path/to/game/mods/mods)
then you just put the mods you want in there
paper spade
can you currently dual-load old and new format mods?
neon yacht
and these two are made with the loader in mind, so you can see some examples of what a new modmain would look like
neon yacht
can you currently dual-load old and new format mods?
you can, but all new mods will load before any old mod
paper spade
okay neat neat, that makes me more likely to test it sooner rather than later
won't need to immediately port evvvverything in my folder
neon yacht
i mean, i've been slapping various mods you guys have posted into the new loader and nothing has exploded yet
paper spade
sick
left grove
@paper spade i just hopefully slapped the new modmain style onto this in a working manner
so it should work still with the new loader
neon yacht
but the main really big reason i want to do it is so that every file can be loaded at a separate priority, so even really big mods can be compatible
left grove
loading now
fingers crossed
@neon yacht would doing somethign like this work?
i will just pull those mods for now to test again
neon yacht
i mean, those mods should be compatible with the loader
neon yacht
<@118807387162411010> i just hopefully slapped the new modmain style onto this ...
here's one for the new loader
note the .8kb file reduction from trimming the modmain
left grove
ty
neon yacht
also if you run it through command line (which i highly recommend for modding in general)
left grove
neon yacht
you can use --debug-mods to have it print out right to the console
yeah, your better refining modmain was broken
left grove
trying a third time with the new BR zip
something else is crashing me
making a new game save works
old saves not compat?
paper spade
you might need to go back through your mods that you moved into the new mods/mods folder
neon yacht
it doesn't touch saves or the main game at all
paper spade
cause based on your earlier screenshot, you moved a bunch of stuff over
paper spade
like I think you want it to look like this, "mods/mods" containing stuff in the testloader format
un-ported old mods in the upper folder like this
neon yacht
works fine
paper spade
and if you sped through and updated each modmains yourself for the new loader, you probably should go back through those
neon yacht
zip your entire mods folder and toss it to me rq
paper spade
how is your mods folder over 8mb without ultra compression?
mine is only 249kb
uncompressed
left grove
its not i was just a dumbass reading the filesize for DeltaV.exe
my brain hurts today lol
paper spade
neon yacht
uhh loads fine for me
neon yacht
paper spade
So you're able to dump old mods into the new mods/mods directory, and the new loader will load everything, it just loads new modmain mods first?
paper spade
that's the backup file
neon yacht
save is either blown up or not compatible with one of the mods
left grove
interesting
save edit to the rescue lmao
been wanting to get a fresh save. RIP to the funny ship names tho
ty for checking
bonus. i get to watch that banger of an intro again
neon yacht
So you're able to dump old mods into the new `mods/mods` directory, and the new ...
so any mod can be run by the new loader. However, mods that directly reference the modloader for a function (such as better refining) will not work, as those functions simply aren't there anymore
anything based on my modmain will work because they are completely self-contained, they don't interact with the loader at all
paper spade
but if they haven't been ported yet, it's best to leave them in the upper mods directory for the old loader to handle?
left grove
bruh this new modmain is so freakin CLEAN i love it lol
neon yacht
so any mod can be run by the new loader. However, mods that directly reference t...
only if they directly reference the modloader
neon yacht
was literally just taking a picture of that
paper spade
ones that straight up use "modLoader.function"
neon yacht
exactly
paper spade
I see
neon yacht
right now it should work pretty much just like the original modloader
but the idea is to add commonly used features between mods
for example, the loader autmatically loads the dlc, so every mod doesn't have to do that
left grove
question for the DecaMPU. does that require a cargo MPU onboard?
neon yacht
no
left grove
oh dang nice
neon yacht
they're written completely from scratch, they're MPUs in name only
left grove
hmm i see
paper spade
shiet, basically anything that still works on that one GitLab repo is gonna need to get modernized, 8 of them in my paticular case
problem for not right now me
left grove
the new modmain is so clean it might be a simple fix now that i have seen what its doing.
paper spade
I mean yeah, it's not hard to update the modmains, I just don't feel like going through 8 mods right now
paper spade
Yeah, I wasn't even planning on fully using the new modmain and everything just yet, the 8 mods I need to update are just ones that use modLoader.function stuff, which can just get updated for your modmain template I've already been using
I'll worry about getting my stuff on the new new modmain structure when things are a bit less alpha
left grove
well
becuase the drones dont have a price you can currently VERY carefully manage your power on a fully stock new save to use the kinetic, haul and mpu drones lmao
deft bane
.>
neon yacht
well
becuase the drones dont have a price you can currently VERY carefully mana...
yeah, i was more worried about getting the damn things to work
neon yacht
check out advanced-drone-plant.gd if you want to see my descent into insanity
left grove
its also REALLY NICE that cutting the drones off mid MPU harvest gives you a partial amount of the chunk
paper spade
I looked at it for 0.003 seconds and I nearly cried, I already spent way too much time drooling while looking at DockingArm.gd and drone-plant.gd 
neon yacht
:)
neon yacht
yeah, some bits are quite terrible tbh
paper spade
"quite terrible" says the guy who can do insane shit I can't even begin to wrap my head around
give yourself a little bit of credit
neon yacht
i very nearly simulated each drone carrying a chunk back to the ship, before i realized that i would like to finish this decade
neon yacht
yep, none of the drones should target things in the cargo
left grove
im sorry to say it rena, but i might use these drones
left grove
rest up
deft bane
im sorry to say it rena, but i might use these drones
womp womp
left grove
can we even improve the sanbus system without driving zakrin mad?
neon yacht
im sorry to say it rena, but i might use these drones
these drones aren't even a real mod yet
left grove
these drones aren't even a real mod yet
neon yacht
can we even improve the sanbus system without driving zakrin mad?
oh it's so terrible, the multidrones actually have their own internal sanbus plus the external sanbus
paper spade
these drones aren't even a real mod yet
if that's not a real mod... I've been playing with playdoh and jamming it into my game
left grove
IKR?
neon yacht
at least yours has translations lmao
paper spade
I mean none of what I've done is impressive by any means, and the neater stuff, was figured out by other people
paper spade
at least yours has translations lmao
that is a low bar
neon yacht
the drones sure don't
(not to mention being completely broken things that i was using for testing)
paper spade
translation files are the easiest bit of non-work that goes into the modding, minus maybe cooking up fun flavor for it, but like compared to the rest?
left grove
it looks so unnatural without weapons lmao
paper spade
the starter K37 that straight up can't defend it's self
(unless Za'krin was a crazy man and made them also able to target ships already and has just been sitting on that little secret)
neon yacht
it looks so unnatural without weapons lmao
oh no i forgot to adjust the positions
neon yacht
(unless Za'krin was a crazy man and made them also able to target ships already ...
idk, try it (:
left grove
bruh i legit didnt see them untill you said that
neon yacht
idk, try it (:
(i legit do not know)
left grove
they blend the fuck in almost perfectly i thought it was the normal image of the 37
paper spade
(i legit do not know)
neon yacht
quick, go find a ship and set the iff to hostile
left grove
i ran out of drones 5 minutes ago
neon yacht
left grove
i only have the 1k tank
neon yacht
omw to go test it
neon yacht
doesn't look like it ๐
neon yacht
what's interesting is they're not showing up as potential targets at all
which is very interesting because i took that directly from the existing pdt script
left grove
indeed
paper spade
it's part of the collision mask/layer system
neon yacht
that filters what the drone detection area will pick up
left grove
ah
paper spade
if it knows what to do with it though
neon yacht
aka, before it gets to my code
paper spade
I tried messing with that section to get the drones to pick up bodies and crystals and whatnot and it did nothing
the fun part is if you set both the layer and mask, things just straight up stop showing up
fun way to mine without ore showing up
left grove
im totally not just doing something unethical with your drone mod zakrin
totally didnt just try splicing the MPU drone printing function into the code for the mpu drones <,<
left grove
we bout to find out if what i did works lol
left grove
the answer was no
lmao
game was just like. NAH we good fam. and didnt even spawn them
neon yacht
yeah, they're basically nothing like mpus tbh
left grove
fair
it was a batshit crazy idea to begin with lol
i just copy pastad the Aux cargo gd code from IoE to see if it would work. since that code handles printing drones and ammo
left grove
next week on zakrin makes a monster mod.
"so drones now refine ships down to base elements"
"if you find any carbon and water in the mixture, best not to worry about it."
paper spade
"so the drones are now your torches and RCS"
neon yacht
if that had any practical use whatsoever, i would probably do it
left grove
what, refining a ship down to base material? or the drones are torches and rcs
neon yacht
the torches one
this is what fighting someone when you don't have a weapon looks like
the drones are very not good against ships
neon yacht
this is actually really fun
left grove
lmao is that escape pods?
neon yacht
yea
neon yacht
3 yeah, can't fit a fourth all the way in there
okay, i'm going to try a version with cranked up kinetic damage to test
they i'll drop the new version
yeah it works, it's just mega-terrible
neon yacht
incredible
neon yacht
yes
left grove
fair
neon yacht
1000x damage multiplier
though i realize
this will attack every ship
even friendlies
hold on
paper spade
left grove
this will attack every ship
so what im hearing is that these are MY rocks. and no one else can have them
neon yacht
exactly
left grove
also free escape pods
paper spade
drones be like: IFF? IFF what? It's mine, if you touch it, you die
hollow pewter
i am a calamity
i think i made a suggestion like this a while back, sorta inverted repair drones, and i think this perfectly fits the bill i had in mind. great work as ever
left grove
its a bit hard to notice.
nothing goes into the cargo.
when i go forward near the end, ore comes out the engine bell
neon yacht
yeahhhh
left grove
and on the ships left hull side, (the top of the screen) ore can be seen spinning wildly inside the hull image
neon yacht
there's kindof a reason the mpus don't change the size of ore in vanilla
paper spade
and on the ships left hull side, (the top of the screen) ore can be seen spinni...
the ore is just being spun wildly by the drones the entire time there
neon yacht
left grove
3 chunks made it in
neon yacht
well
left grove
also
the MPU drones dont SEEM to retarget new chunks when the geologist tab has been changed to ignore an ore type
tested that by filling my processed cargo and watching the drones keep going after chunks but the cargo not go up. then disabled the geo tab for all the ores i had full
neon yacht
i could just disable the shrinking effect
filters won't work without a geologist onboard
technically all of those chunks classify as unmarked
neon yacht
i could just disable the shrinking effect
but it looks so good
the real solution is to set a limit on some scale
but it's so satisfying having an accurate visual representation of progress
left grove
lol
i think its fine if you can filter haul drones to ignore ore that has been scaled down
paper spade
that could result in drones ignoring ore that still has value that passes their filters, but doesn't pass the size
so might not be the best solution
left grove
hmm true
but i meant more along the lines of.
this ore is being worked on by MPU drones. dont touch
neon yacht
i mean, the easy solution is to just make it scale less
or clamp the scale
or clamp the scale on the collider, but let the visuals scale further?
left grove
that could work
paper spade
ah, yeah that would probably work
left grove
does your new modloader handle the DLC loading?
neon yacht
yea
left grove
ok cool
i think its not loading my ships into the dealer
so im gonna swap them all over to the new loader to check
neon yacht
i really need a name for it other than "new modloader"
paper spade
ModdyMcModFaceLoader
neon yacht
very true
left grove
gonna test the K225 first to see if that works
hollow pewter
lol let's push the ego and call it Za'krinloader
hollow pewter
ModdyMcModFaceLoader
although i much prefer this
hollow pewter
lol
paper spade
OutPizza'dTheHuttLoader
left grove
OPTHL
hollow pewter
ZKYLoader?
paper spade
moreGooderLoader
left grove
the ZKYLoader is on brand for sure
hollow pewter
yeah, decided to reference the first big-time user of it
neon yacht
i did have that thought
paper spade
I fully support it, but I prefer a shitpost name, so that way future modding community can be super confused why they need [insert shitpost title] loader to have the proper modded experience
hollow pewter
that's a good point
neon yacht
so true
hollow pewter
NotAModLoader
paper spade
"why the hell do I need this mod called 'gabingusbeansBurgerLoader' for my mods to load properly?!?!"
hollow pewter
just come up with something for zky to stand for
and this is where the roadblocks start to appear, but im sure we can make it work
neon yacht
"this is not the modloader, it's a mod that the modloader loads to load mods"
paper spade
just come up with something for zky to stand for
Zebras Kicked Yesterday Loader
hollow pewter
lol one that just came to mind: COADERLOADER
completely referencing another game entirely to add to the confusion
neon yacht
NotAVirus100%LegitLoader
paper spade
sys32DeleterLoader.mp4.exe
ThisDoesAbsolutelyNothingWhyAreYouUsingItPleaseStopBeforeYouBreakItLoader
hollow pewter
sys32DeleterLoader.mp4.exe
and for the linux users: WereGoingToScrewUpCHMODLoader
paper spade
"TheCommunityTriedToNameThisModLoaderButCollectivelyWentOffTheRailsSoThisIsWhatYouGetLoader"
paper spade
The only thing related to ZKY that actually manifested was Zebras Kicked Yesterday Loader
left grove
lmao yep
hollow pewter
@neon yacht the one time having a unique set of initials screws you over
paper spade
Zebra Ninja Yeast Loader, because my mind is deranged I guess
neon yacht
it do be that way
the good part is that the name doesn't really matter and i can change it at any time
hollow pewter
true
neon yacht
so i'ma just make a github for it rq
left grove
hmm yeah something about this new modloader is not playing nice with my ships.
ahh found it still using the modloader. one sec fixing
@neon yacht can you include a template modmain with the modloader on the github?
so we can swap stuff over super easy hopefully without asking for help evry 5 min lol
neon yacht
yeah, i can do that
left grove
tyty
wait a second.
did you remove the requirement for "Res://Foldername/foldername/" before a file ?
i see your advanced drones modmain only uses "enceladus/weaponslotupgrade.tscn" and "weapons/weaponslot.tscn"
though im modifying scripts. so maybe i do still need the res
neon yacht
they get readded down here
paper spade
his current modmain contains a sick helper function already that gets rid of that, so the new moadloader just has that baked in
left grove
ok thats probably whats breaking my ship mods lol. i just copy pasted the replacescene and extendscript lines from the old one
paper spade
Yeah, that'll do it
left grove
yay for learning!
paper spade
it's why I quickly switched over to using his modmain as a template for all of mine
left grove
im working on it. slowly lol
neon yacht
paper spade
cut out the need for "res://yada" every time, and now it's just a pretty seamless swap to the testloader format
neon yacht
https://github.com/ZakrinYoran/ZKYLoader
no readme yet
paper spade
just gotta swap out the helper functions for the loader functions instead
45 lines of beauty, what a modmain template 
left grove
ty
neon yacht
this version should also be compatible with any legacy mods that used the old script extension function
it is not going to support the old scene replacement methods however, simple because those are (imo) very terrible and liable to cause horrible issues
literally the reason i stopped using any modLoader functions
paper spade
and by that do you mean the ModLoader.function or?
left grove
this is fine tho right?
replaceScene("enceladus/Dealer.tscn")
func _init(__):
l("Initializing")
updateTL("/en.txt", "|")
updateTL("/ua.txt", "|")
replaceScene("enceladus/Dealer.tscn")
installScriptExtension("/CurrentGame.gd")
installScriptExtension("ships/Shipyard.gd")
l("Initialized")
this is all im doing right now
neon yacht
and by that do you mean the ModLoader.function or?
these guys from the vanilla modloader
paper spade
ahh
neon yacht
not adding those or equivalents because they break alot
specifically any scene that has placeholders
- any scene that changes itself when loaded
neon yacht
func _init(__):
l("Initializing")
updateTL("/en.txt", "|")
updateTL...
some of your strings are starting with "/" which will break it
paper spade
how badly is this going to need a re-write? and hell, does this even actually work right now
neon yacht
also that is assuming you have functions in your script that link to the modmain
neon yacht
how badly is this going to need a re-write? and hell, does this even actually wo...
no idea if it still owrks
but looks 100% compatible out of the box
(assuming you grabbed the new version from the github)
neon yacht
how badly is this going to need a re-write? and hell, does this even actually wo...
this code actually gives me terrible ideas, thanks
left grove
well my games in a crash loop now
paper spade
yeah mine is crashing too
neon yacht
load one at a time
left grove
i emptied my mod folder. the ZKYLoader was crashing it
pulled the loader.zip out of mods and it loads fine
left grove
odd. leme try again
neon yacht
i mean, i know it works
neon yacht
left grove
it was save edit of all things
neon yacht
oh yeah
left grove
the newer one you sent i think
neon yacht
you either have to use the release version
left grove
wierd part being it was loading fine like 5 min ago
paper spade
worked for me
hollow pewter
lmao just checked the modloader code and it seems you have ascended beyond absurdly low priority numbers
paper spade
paper spade
lmao just checked the modloader code and it seems you have ascended beyond absur...
forcing it to load first frfr
left grove
ok back to testing.
neon yacht
i do what i must
hollow pewter
the irony of the statement though, "ascended beyond absurdly low"
paper spade
gonna write a mod that uses -INFx2
and just tells the game to ignore everything and just play a big fart sound
neon yacht
ok back to testing.
sounds like you might have the wrong folder structure?
paper spade
I'm running a garbage pale and they all seem to be working, and not a single one of them is updated for the ZKYLoader format
well saveedit is
neon yacht
yeah, i tried to make it compatible
hollow pewter
would the --debug-mods argument help with the crashing at all, as i just noticed that it's a thing with the modloader?
unless im completely reading the wrong way into it ofc
neon yacht
right now that's just for seeing the output in real-time
which would likely tell you what's wrong
but you can see that info in the logs anyway, sooo...
hollow pewter
gotcha, im taking that debugMode is a vanilla variable (can't check tho, not at pc)
left grove
its splash screen crashing
neon yacht
can i see your logs
paper spade
yeah, i tried to make it compatible
yeah, nah, you knocked that one out of the park. None of the old mods I use that still seem to work had any issues, all seemed to be picked up and loaded properly, verrrrrry nice
neon yacht
that's showing a valid load as far as i can tell
left grove
deleting better refining fixed it
hollow pewter
by going forward we can reach the past
paper spade
I love the step towards better compatibility already showing that in practice by back supporting most(if not all) of the currently functioning old mods and new "old" mods
left grove
thats interesting cause i just redownloaded the original and it instacrashed me
paper spade
I mean every single one of my mods in the mods/mods folder are old non-ZKYLoader format mods, and they all work
so you might have goofed something in updating a mod's modmain to the new format?
left grove
all of mine are reimported old modmain style
paper spade
huh
left grove
im gonna do it again to be sure
but deleting better refining got it loading perfectly with everything else
paper spade
O.o
left grove
so now its angry with advanced drones?
neon yacht
ironic that all the problems are my own mods
because i changed things while working on it
paper spade
why have you done this 
left grove
works
paper spade
yep
neon yacht
also that version won't kill everyone
paper spade
also that version won't kill everyone
very nice
neon yacht
just those the MWG would kill
paper spade
all the drones need now is grabbing the rest of what the arms can minus ships and drones are perfect creatures for me
hollow pewter
ironic that all the problems are my own mods
now all that's left is to see if IoE can be made compatible somehow
left grove
ngl i was getting a little heated with the mods not loading
paper spade
OCP with 2 arms, all drones, some murder drones, some mpu, some grabby the bodies and crystals bois, delicious
left grove
almost wanted to throw the entire new modloader out
left grove
OCP with 2 arms, all drones, some murder drones, some mpu, some grabby the bodie...
my 230 has 2 drone slots. and then the main slots should also support drones
neon yacht
now all that's left is to see if IoE can be made compatible somehow
it probably is in all honesty?
hollow pewter
maybe, sadly im not at my pc to test it right now
left grove
@paper spade you still have your titanXL right?
hollow pewter
but with the loader itself
it would be a start regardless
paper spade
Confirmed, IoE still hates everyone else
left grove
nice
hollow pewter
would be very ironic it works though as i have just put a bit on the wiki about it's incompatibility
ah nvm
left grove
my game refuses to load my titan
the mod loads. the dealer doesnt show it. and im using that dealer override to force it in
paper spade
my game refuses to load my titan
is the titan getting loaded after stuff like it needs to be?
left grove
i assume?
i never changed the priority from the original
i think its loading them out of order
paper spade
I mean, I'm not using the one with forced dealer, but mine works fine
left grove
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: Loading mods...
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: AdvancedDrones.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: BetterRefining.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: BootlegERM-420.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: BootlegPDT-Laser.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: K-T Industrial Big-Block MPDG.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: K-T Industrial EIME-KTI.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: K-T Industrial K225-KTI.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: K-T Industrial Kitsumo.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: K-T Industrial KTI-MPR RCS.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: K-T Industrial KTI-MPR Torch.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: K-T Industrial KTI-MTR RCS.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: K-T Industrial Micro-Block MPDG.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: K-T Industrial OCP230-KTI.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: K-T Industrial Small-Block MPDG.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: SaveEdit.zip loaded.
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: Done loading mods.
its loading by order in the folder
neon yacht
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYLoader]: Loading mods...
[2024/10/15 21:35:39]: [ZKYL...
this section is before it can see the priority
left grove
ah
left grove
255 lines down
paper spade
AlertSounds for me is set to -100 and MysteryHunt is -99, and they're loading in the correct order
neon yacht
you know what
left grove
hm?
neon yacht
i'll just make it print out the mod priorities
so this is easier to see in the future
left grove
i would love that omg lol
paper spade
i'll just make it print out the mod priorities
and this is why you're the brains around here
left grove
based on the mod loaded before it, yes its the right order
@paper spade can you load this zip up. and see if the one in your fleet still pops in? (and save your current one as a backup)
paper spade
trying it out now
left grove
ty
paper spade
Current one still shows up
left grove
my game hates me then
wish we could just add our mod ships the the new ships selection
paper spade
are you sure you're doing the dealer forcing part correctly still?
hollow pewter
i'll just make it print out the mod priorities
yknow, i wonder how easy it would be to create an automatic updater for the modloader (or a handler for other mods handled by the ZKYLoader also)
paper spade
since that seems to be the hiccup right?
left grove
godot says the script is fine
neon yacht
yknow, i wonder how easy it would be to create an automatic updater for the modl...
depends what you mean
left grove
where
left grove
god damnit
neon yacht
(that one does)