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left grove Oct 6, 2024, 11:27 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/holy-grail-wonderful-magic-unbelievable-awesome-gif-20587160

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paper spade Oct 6, 2024, 11:27 PM

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if you can't tell I'm a big fan of standalone mods and being able to piece meal your own choices together instead of big bundled mods KEKW

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so much so I'm very likely making IoE dependent versions of my AP and PDT-Laser so they can be used with IoE

left grove Oct 6, 2024, 11:31 PM

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hmm. im gonna assume it didnt work because of the extra text i tagged into it
600kg chunk should have refined at 150% efficiency.

left grove Oct 6, 2024, 11:34 PM

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paper spade so much so I'm very likely making IoE dependent versions of my AP and PDT-Laser ...

also yeah i have absolutely been looking at that PDT laser mod lol. if i wasnt so addicted to MWGs i probably would have pounced on it already

paper spade Oct 6, 2024, 11:34 PM

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trust me, it's better

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KEKW

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however, currently not compatible with IoE

left grove Oct 6, 2024, 11:35 PM

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do the chunks not fly away as quickly? i admit i never tried the basic laser system in game.

paper spade Oct 6, 2024, 11:35 PM

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IoE kinda takes a hammer to the base game's files to do it's things so it blocks mooost other things from doing theirs

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A CL-200AP (the laser my PDT is based on) tuned to lowest power and max frequency, can crack Be containing ringoids without the Be Rocketing off into space, or your forehead

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so

left grove Oct 6, 2024, 11:36 PM

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what im hearing is ive been using the wrong tool for the right job lol

paper spade Oct 6, 2024, 11:36 PM

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pulse lasers, when tuned correctly are probably the gentlest way of mining, and the best

paper spade Oct 6, 2024, 11:36 PM

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left grove what im hearing is ive been using the wrong tool for the right job lol

Not really, power draw is a lot more with lasers than it is with microwaves

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a fully detuned PDT-Laser still uses 120mw of power draw

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KEKW

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a fully detuned Microwave, what 45mw?

left grove Oct 6, 2024, 11:37 PM

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i think so?

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i admit i never rally figured out the MW tuning. i set max power and max resonance >.>

paper spade Oct 6, 2024, 11:38 PM

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yeah, so you can run a warship of a titan with PDMWGs a lot easier than a warship of a Titan with 8 PDT-Lasers

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KEKW

left grove Oct 6, 2024, 11:39 PM

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can confirm im refining at 150% now lol

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ty for showing me this amazing mod.

paper spade Oct 6, 2024, 11:39 PM

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left grove i admit i never rally figured out the MW tuning. i set max power and max resona...

on the MWGs higher power gives it a wider cone of effectiveness, lower power gives it a narrower cone

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so higher power can cook multiple small ringoids in the same beam, where lower power will really only be able to hit one thing at a time

left grove Oct 6, 2024, 11:40 PM

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yeah the power = cone size i get. the water resonance i never figured out tho

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i just set it at max and it seems to work faster lmao

hollow pewter Oct 6, 2024, 11:40 PM

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water resonance is the EM/thermal damage mix. higher resonance means a higher thermal to EM ratio, lowering it makes the EM ratio better

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EM damage is better if you want to disable a ship's computer, but sucks for mining

left grove Oct 6, 2024, 11:41 PM

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ok so i am doing it right for mining, cool

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ty

hollow pewter Oct 6, 2024, 11:41 PM

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👍

neon yacht Oct 7, 2024, 4:25 AM

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I swear i'll get around to overhauling that one day. eventually™️

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so many projects, never enough time

left grove Oct 7, 2024, 4:30 AM

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neon yacht I swear i'll get around to overhauling that one day. eventually™️

i would love to see it, i tried the ZKY pack today but something was causing a CTD, i suspect it was more minerals as it only crashed when i was in the belt and breaking rocks.

and despite several hours of attempts, the silly ATK222222225 refused to spawn in the dealership.
it was set to true in mod settings.

neon yacht Oct 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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left grove i would love to see it, i tried the ZKY pack today but something was causing a C...

oh yeah, more minerals is actually built off ZKY, so they conflict if you try to run them together. As for the 222222225, i have no idea, it's been so long since I touched that

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honestly, considering that was how i learned to program, and it hasn't been updated in a year or something, it's held together pretty well.

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i won't really be able to touch it until after i work on fragmented modloading. i'd really like to make more mods work together

left grove Oct 7, 2024, 4:45 AM

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no worries, the OCP Drone loads perfectly. as does the ATK with 4 arm slots. so at least those are holding together well

neon yacht Oct 11, 2024, 8:08 AM

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well i'm certainly cooking something
packedScript.source_code = packedScript.source_code.replacen("var loader = false", "var loader = instance_from_id(%s)" % get_instance_id())

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time will tell if i burn down the kitchen or not

left grove Oct 11, 2024, 5:47 PM

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So i went poking around in godot lastnight. I cannot find Ultracapacitors, Turbines, or Reactors as standalone modules to make more of. i found the upgradesUI for all of them, but not the slot.tscn files are those all going to require a new ship just like a custom MPU would?
(I did find a reactor.tscn file but it seems to be dedicated to the K37?)

paper spade Oct 11, 2024, 5:54 PM

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So from a quick glance at the files, it looks like there's one base scene the AuxMpd.tscn that is then inherited into AuxSlot.tscn

AuxSlot.tscn appears to be where the different variants of the AuxMPD are being created, where it inherits the "AuxMpd.tscn" for each slot and then changes the stats there

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you also want to make sure that your MPDs you're adding to the AuxSlot.tscn are being loaded as placeholder

left grove Oct 11, 2024, 5:55 PM

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oh yeah i made working MPDGs easy with Rena helping lastnight

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im trying to look at reactors and turbines now, like the nakamura 16S or the 6X rod cores

paper spade Oct 11, 2024, 5:56 PM

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FusionReactor.tscn and NuclearReactor.tscn appear to be reactor related

left grove Oct 11, 2024, 5:57 PM

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i looked at those but only saw sprites for the K37 so i wasnt sure lmao

paper spade Oct 11, 2024, 6:00 PM

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there's a lot of cases where the game will only have one or two base scenes/scripts that it uses and it'll just inherit those and make tweaks there instead of having individual scenes for each variant of things

left grove Oct 11, 2024, 6:01 PM

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ah, ok time to.. figure out how these work then XD ty

left grove Oct 11, 2024, 7:39 PM

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yeah. i have zero idea how reactors work lmao. back to MPDGs XD

neon yacht Oct 11, 2024, 7:46 PM

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so reactor cores, turbines, and ultracapacitors are super simple. They're not actually real objects, they're just a number in the ship config. IIRC to add new ones the only thing you should need to edit is the upgrades.tscn.

However... i believe ships themselves have limits built into the hulls for the maximum size installable, so you would have to edit that as well.

but that's just off the top of my head, I'm not at pc right now, so I can't double check the details.

left grove Oct 11, 2024, 7:48 PM

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ah. ok i will look at that TY

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theoretically it should be as simple as adding a new inherited item into the upgrades.tscn then?

neon yacht Oct 11, 2024, 7:50 PM

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correct, but they might not be equippable on ships if they are outside the ship limits

left grove Oct 11, 2024, 7:50 PM

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gotcha, i will start small and see what works. ty

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 4:35 AM

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Uhoh

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gil_heh

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these PDT-Lasers are actually rather underwhelming...

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 4:42 AM

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...pdt gungnir

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 4:42 AM

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I will eventually PDT everything if someone else doesn't get to it first

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but the actual PDT-Lasers in the game already, kinda wack, mine are better

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KEKW

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 4:43 AM

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balance? never heard of it!

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 4:44 AM

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well you'd think for something we're not allowed to have and only see on BBW would be something more.... potent or alluring, but it's actually a fairly weak lil thing

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KEKW

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 4:44 AM

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ah well

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those aren't the ones on bbw

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 4:44 AM

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like it's not awful, and it's certainly a PDT Laser, but I just figured it would be better

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 4:44 AM

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neon yacht those aren't the ones on bbw

well now that's racist

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how do I get those

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KEKW

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 4:45 AM

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the funny thing is, the bootleg ones you made are basically how the bbw lasers work

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 4:45 AM

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paper spade Uhoh

those lasers are from IRRS-T

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 4:46 AM

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neon yacht the funny thing is, the bootleg ones you made are basically how the bbw lasers w...

jjjkek

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 4:47 AM

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vilcy canonically uses bootleg brand products

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 4:48 AM

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lulw

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 5:06 AM

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waaaait, so BBW just uses the PDT.tscn for it's "laser" which is really just a PDMWG, and also a Pivot Arm?!?!??!

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pogHuh

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So it's even more bootleg than my bootleg?!?!

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well 2 of them are basically normal PDMWGs stats wise, and then 4 of them are 40000 power draw instead of 10000

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 5:16 AM

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I might regret asking this one. Are thrusters another case of "make a new ship" for them?

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I made one RCS thruster, it shows in the shop. Just the simulation doesnt work, they dont move me at all in there. idk if i need to run out into the belt to test properly

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 5:27 AM

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no, thrusters should just need to be added to thrusterslot.tscn

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shouldn't have to mess with ships at all

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 5:29 AM

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ok ty

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Yup they work fine. it was a naming issue. TY za'krin

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now to figure out the cargopods lmao. when i import the L and R variants of them they stack onto the same 2d scene. idk if thats supposed to happen

dark pike Oct 12, 2024, 10:01 AM

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paper spade waaaait, so BBW just uses the PDT.tscn for it's "laser" which is really just a P...

I seem to recall that the BBW had the stock 600's and 150's mounted on pivot arms, and mikes on the sides. Theta's PDT are a 150 variant, I think.

BBW was designed before we had any actual PDT.

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Two 600's with fast targeting and a wider range, two 150's with a smaller range and slower targeting.

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:29 AM

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neon yacht well i'm certainly cooking *something* `packedScript.source_code = packedScript....

building has not yet combusted

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:30 AM

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nice

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im trying to cook a custom K225 using your drone OCP mod as a guide.

based on everything im looking at so far, it should be functional... i just have no idea how to find out without spamming resort stays and checking the dealer XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:32 AM

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yea, that's pretty much the way to do it (:

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:32 AM

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oh boy, i was honestly hoping for some magic way to make it easy XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:33 AM

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not without modding the dealership or something

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:33 AM

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no way to alter the spawn chance using that currentgame.gd file you have in the zip?

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that one i mean

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:34 AM

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yeah, you can just copy-paste it really

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:34 AM

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oh i did, but i have no clue what these numbers mean XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:35 AM

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oh yeah, that's the age of the ship

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i mean you can just copy-paste the dictionary a bunch

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:35 AM

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just did a name swap. also not sure if it matters, im using the modmain from the droneOCP as well.

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:38 AM

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just do like

{"name" : "K225-KTI", "age" : 24 * 3600 * 365 * 200},
{"name" : "K225-KTI", "age" : 24 * 3600 * 365 * 200},
{"name" : "K225-KTI", "age" : 24 * 3600 * 365 * 200},
{"name" : "K225-KTI", "age" : 24 * 3600 * 365 * 200},
{"name" : "K225-KTI", "age" : 24 * 3600 * 365 * 200},
]```
(you get the point)

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:38 AM

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ahh, force it to spawn i see

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:39 AM

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actually

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yea

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just

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usedShipsPool = [{"name" : "K225-KTI", "age" : 24 * 3600 * 365 * 200}]

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me when i overcomplicate things

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:41 AM

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gotcha. time to test 😄

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:42 AM

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neon yacht building has not yet combusted

(example of what i'm cooking)

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:42 AM

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hopefully its actually loading at all...

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i gotta be honest, i dont really understand the code, just that its for the multi-drone mod XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:43 AM

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that's the entire modmain

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:43 AM

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oh dang thats short

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:44 AM

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(:

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:44 AM

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so for my custom ship... i DID mess with the cargobay 2d scene.
but its an inherited ship.tscn file, saved in the exact file structure as the base game. so i think it should be working fine?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:45 AM

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neon yacht ```usedShipsPool = [{"name" : "K225-KTI", "age" : 24 * 3600 * 365 * 200}]```

sadly this isnt forcing it to spawn. i assume something is wrong and its failing to load.

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:46 AM

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mind showing me your dv_log_0 file from https://discord.com/channels/426287934870781952/1067385553261166602?

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:46 AM

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neon yacht building has not yet combusted

~~if only you had a modloader telling you what was happening~~

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:47 AM

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[2024/10/12 03:40:59]: ModLoader: K-T Industrial K225-KTI.zip loaded. its loading supposedly

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:47 AM

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just dump the whole thing here

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:47 AM

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📎 dv_log_0.txt

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:50 AM

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i'd say dependency issue, but i don't think anything there should be

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just try it with no other mods to be sure

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:51 AM

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will do. ty for checking that over

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:52 AM

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also the mod you chose for reference is like one of the first mods i ever made

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so it's not great

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:53 AM

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fair, but i have confirmed that it DOES load.

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and id rather reference your work and not IoE. so i dont accidentally make it incompatible with the universe

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:54 AM

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lmao

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does your engine_log.txt say anything

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:54 AM

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📎 engine_log.txt

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:55 AM

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there we go

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:55 AM

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the ship file IS in there

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:56 AM

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you might have a typo in your modmain or your filepaths? looks like it doesn't see shipyard.gd where it thinks it should

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:57 AM

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modLoader.installScriptExtension("res://K-T Industrial K225-KTI/ships/Shipyard.gd")

path is: K-T Industrial K225-KTI\ships\Shipyard.gd

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:58 AM

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hmmmhmm

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and what does the shipyard.gd look like

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:58 AM

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📎 shipyard.gd

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oh i was hoping it was gonna preview lmao

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:59 AM

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it might be caps sensitive

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:59 AM

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its the same code from your OCP just emptied the main weapon slots with "empty"

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ill try the cap didnt see that at all lol

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 10:59 AM

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neon yacht it might be caps sensitive

since that fileis lowercase

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ye

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:01 AM

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to put it bluntly though. this is essentially your OCPDrone mod with a different ship. without upgrades.tscn since i made no changes to slots everything else was copied.

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Every bit of my issues. was a freakin Capital S XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:04 AM

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it really do be like that sometimes

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:04 AM

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though for some reason now my furry crew is all humans

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:04 AM

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ah yeah

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so

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that was before i figured out how to fix that

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you know how in the other modmains i have the loadDLC func?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:04 AM

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the preload dlc function from my other modmains should fix it if i splice it in right?

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:05 AM

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yee, exactly

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:06 AM

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well now i know how to make ships variants. wooo!

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:06 AM

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neon yacht building has not yet combusted

~~again! if only there was a modloader to take care of that for you!~~

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:06 AM

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XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:06 AM

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left grove well now i know how to make ships variants. wooo!

yay! it's a bit more in-depth than most things

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:07 AM

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now that its 4am. time to go on a ring dive and see if my changes to the ship actually worked

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:07 AM

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relatable

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:07 AM

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if only i could get the same ship name on the new model. then it would be perfect

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:08 AM

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what's different about the variant?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:08 AM

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its... its also showing me a K37 when i preview in the dealer... but when i buy it its a K225

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:09 AM

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interesting

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i can't say i've seen that one

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:10 AM

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basically this variant has the K225-BB cargo hold. The MPUs shapes are customized to fit its new shape. and the processed storage is set to some absurd number for testing if it worked

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:10 AM

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left grove its... its also showing me a K37 when i preview in the dealer... but when i buy ...

can i get a screenshot of what you mean?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:11 AM

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neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:11 AM

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oh yeah, that sure is the default k37

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ships["K225-KTI"] = load("res://K-T Industrial K225-KTI/ships/ATK225-KTI.tscn")
configAlias["K225-KTI"] = "225-KTI"
defaultShipConfig["K225-KTI"] = {

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might be your issue?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:13 AM

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ahh let me go fix that

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So is my save file forever humanized again? i tossed the preload DL function into the modmain but it didnt have the furry crew active still

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:15 AM

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you have to run it first thing in your init()

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:17 AM

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i assume that means at the top of the modmain? cause thats where its at

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neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:18 AM

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left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:19 AM

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ah... ill try that

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idk if its cause of the hud or if all i did was give my ship some holes lmao

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:21 AM

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you have to define a custom cargo bay area on the ship for the scanner to show

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but also the hud probably isn't set up for it, no

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:21 AM

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seems fair. XD

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i will tackle that tomorrow. turns out another glaring issue popped up, my highstress weapons are not equipping anything.

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:23 AM

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fun !

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mmm

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:24 AM

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i have a rough guess why. cause of the shipyard file

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:24 AM

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you need to make sure the mod loads after anything that affects weaponslot.tscn

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:24 AM

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11 is my mod priority for this. any other mod is loading before it at this point

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any mod i make is prioritized in sequence. so my first mod was 4. then 5 6 7 8. and so on

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i assume this is the culprit for my weapon slots

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:26 AM

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shouldn't be, that's just the default config when you buy a ship

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:27 AM

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interesting. cause this ship has nothing changed for weapon slots. it doesnt even reference the weaponslot.tscn... (though i guess maybe thats also why its broken?) XD

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the MT companion works perfectly on it. so that works atleast

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:28 AM

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so

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only the forward slots are broken?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:29 AM

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yes

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:29 AM

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left grove i assume this is the culprit for my weapon slots

maybe that did break something then

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which is funky

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:29 AM

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low stress works for loading guns. just checked

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only the HS slots are effected. im going to do something silly and put the arms back on it in the outfit file XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:30 AM

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ohhhh

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wait

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:30 AM

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hm?

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:30 AM

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sorry

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you added HS hardpoints

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:30 AM

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OH is my 4am brain that dumb lmao

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the titan doesnt GET HS. omg lol

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.......but what if it could 😄

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thats weaponslot.tscn right? >.> or am i just digging up a huge workload of insanity for myself

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my brain sees one thing right now.

titan crab.

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:33 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855015718861275146/1147063939973259304/image.png

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:34 AM

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i was honestly thinking closer to the front for feeding

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:34 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/426287934870781954/1158677164724600904/image.png?ex=670b8033&is=670a2eb3&hm=d322995f68b9975a52bba3a8e47380a07db2216b4d9f174116f85acf66c5a0e1&

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:35 AM

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either way. for now im gonna remove the HS slots from the shipyard file lol

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yee thats more like it XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:36 AM

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left grove thats weaponslot.tscn right? >.> or am i just digging up a huge workload of in...

it's not very crazy as long as you use slots that already exist in upgrades.tscn

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you basically just copy-paste one of these

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:37 AM

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nice. i will look at that tomorrow for sure. gonna just strip this ship for now, and sell it back before i reload to fix the dlc init and the slots

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:37 AM

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and fill out the data slot, toggle key, etc

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:37 AM

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oh nice

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and i can move it around in godot to be where i want it?

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:38 AM

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yea, you can put it wherever

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:38 AM

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sweet

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brb scrolling up to find that initdlc thing

deft bane Oct 12, 2024, 11:40 AM

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neon yacht https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/426287934870781954/1158677164724600904/im...

Ghost in the shell type shit

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:40 AM

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tachikoma vibes for sure

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:41 AM

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neon yacht

so thats all i need for the DLC loader?

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:42 AM

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okay so

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:42 AM

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left grove

take this script

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and just put loadDLC() under the _init()

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:43 AM

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ok one sec. my appologies for being a code idiot XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:43 AM

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no worries lmao

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honestly my best advice would be to do it in godot

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just because there it will yell at you if something is wrong

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:44 AM

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it didnt yell..

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yay?

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:45 AM

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yay (:

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:45 AM

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wooo!

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:45 AM

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(probably)

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:45 AM

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XD

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so all of this above it is useless now? or is that init referencing to that code

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neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:46 AM

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yeah, it's calling that func

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and that func is expecting the 'l' func

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which you do not have

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so you can just delete those two lines

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:47 AM

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ok

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:47 AM

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or copy it from the other script as well

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:48 AM

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gah godot keeps yelling about stuff that i havent touched

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the method "updateUpgrades( )" isnt declared in the current class XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:49 AM

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uhh

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what code did you grab

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:49 AM

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my shipfile doesnt have upgrades. it was leftover from the OCP code

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:50 AM

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just toss the whole thing over

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so i can see rq

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:50 AM

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kk

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📎 ModMain.gd

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:52 AM

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yeah no, that should be fine

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you getting that error on currentgame.gd?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:53 AM

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modmain. one sec ill show ya what was wrong

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this was left over from the original OCPdrone modmain.
func updateUpgrades():
replaceScene("res://DroneOCP/enceladus/Upgrades.tscn", "res://enceladus/Upgrades.tscn")

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but my ship has no upgrades changes

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:54 AM

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oh yeah, just nuke that then

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:55 AM

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yeah i did. i was just worried cause godot yelled. then figured it out after i mentioned it here lol

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:55 AM

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# Set mod priority if you want it to load before/after other mods
# Mods are loaded from lowest to highest priority, default is 0
const MOD_PRIORITY = 11
# Name of the mod, used for writing to the logs
const MOD_NAME = "K-Tech Industrial MPU"
# Path of the mod folder, automatically generated on runtime
var modPath:String = get_script().resource_path.get_base_dir() + "/"
# Required var for the replaceScene() func to work
var _savedObjects = []

# Instances Settings.gd, loads DLC, then frees the script.
func loadDLC():
    var DLCLoader:Settings = preload("res://Settings.gd").new()
    DLCLoader.loadDLC()
    DLCLoader.queue_free()

func _init(modLoader = ModLoader):
    l("Initializing")
    loadDLC()
    modLoader.installScriptExtension("res://K-T Industrial K225-KTI/CurrentGame.gd")
    modLoader.installScriptExtension("res://K-T Industrial K225-KTI/ships/Shipyard.gd")
    l("Initialized")

func _ready():
    l("Ready")


func l(msg:String, title:String = MOD_NAME):
    Debug.l("[%s]: %s" % [title, msg])```

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try that version

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:56 AM

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hmm ok.

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yup worked perfectly. as usual when its something you write XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:59 AM

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trust me you don't want to see how i started lol

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:59 AM

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i spoke slightly too soon maybe? that or this is from something else

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the forever load has hit

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:59 AM

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that is

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interesting

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 12:00 PM

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one sec engine log has a hit

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 12:00 PM

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but not related to the modmain

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 12:01 PM

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it was shipyard

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i had an extra } on line 45 at the end

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 12:01 PM

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left grove Oct 12, 2024, 12:02 PM

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XD

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Shipyard.gd:45) - Parse Error: Error parsing expression, misplaced: '}'

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the curly boi won

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 12:02 PM

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he always does

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 12:03 PM

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time to see why its crashed this time 😄

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error log is very angy now. i modified the shipyard.gd in godot and godot says its fine....

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ERROR: Condition "err" is true. Returned: err
at: GDScript::load_source_code (modules\gdscript\gdscript.cpp:807) - Condition "err" is true. Returned: err
ERROR: Cannot load source code from file 'res://K-T Industrial K225-KTI/ships/Shipyard.gd'.
at: ResourceFormatLoaderGDScript::load (modules\gdscript\gdscript.cpp:2209) - Condition "err != OK" is true. Returned: RES()
ERROR: Failed loading resource: res://K-T Industrial K225-KTI/ships/Shipyard.gd. Make sure resources have been imported by opening the project in the editor at least once.
at: ResourceLoader::_load (core\io\resource_loader.cpp:271) - Condition "found" is true. Returned: RES()
ERROR: Error loading resource: 'res://K-T Industrial K225-KTI/ships/Shipyard.gd'.
at: _ResourceLoader::load (core\bind\core_bind.cpp:76) - Condition "err != OK" is true. Returned: ret

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 12:05 PM

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looks like it's not seeing the file again?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 12:05 PM

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...freaking godot saved it lowercase again lmao

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renamed it in godot with a S now

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 12:06 PM

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that'll do it

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 12:07 PM

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yup

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loaded perfect now

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 12:07 PM

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wooo !

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 12:13 PM

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ok time for a test dive. see if the... well never mind lmao that was different

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nvm think i got it figured out.

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the new cargo bay is colliding with THICCS so its ejecting them lmao

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 12:15 PM

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oh yeah, they're probably clipping like crazy

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 12:15 PM

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my ship ejected thiccs at E during the launch sequence and it was so bad the game just closed XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 12:16 PM

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that's an accomplishment

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 12:16 PM

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XD

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ok enough cooking for the night. its almost 6am XD

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 12:21 PM

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🫡

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 12:22 PM

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ty for all the help, the absolutely HUGE help.
i will see yall later.

dark pike Oct 12, 2024, 1:58 PM

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Just an FYI for mods with MPUs. #experimental-feedback message

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 4:21 PM

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Oof, rip BetterRefining and probably IoE's MPUs kekNotLikeThis

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:31 PM

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the code for BR seems fairly simple as it just modifies the games base values from what i can see. so it might not be a loss unless the new code changes variables to constants

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:32 PM

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Yeah, it's probably unaffected tbh, that message was sent before I finally woke up and read through what all had been messed with

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I'm now more concerned about how to un-nerf the space bar, but am also too lazy to update my game to the latest experimental version and decompile it to hunt down that space bar change KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:35 PM

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paper spade I'm now more concerned about how to un-nerf the space bar, but am also too lazy ...

im cookin, mainly for the MPU changes just to see if the code has changed much.
i...might be able to find the bar but i doubt it XD

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:37 PM

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It's my favorite method of keeping my crew happy, least amount of time spent to keep them happy. So like at some level I understand the change, but on another level, how dare Koder try and tell me crippling alcoholism isn't a valid method of improving crew morale?!?!?!?!

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:38 PM

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it IS kind of concerning to have multiple drunk ship crews operating mining hsips with various weapons while drunk lmao

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but im also the crazy guy that gives my crew a 7 day resort stay every time i go to E

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:39 PM

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Yeeeah, but like, now it's only one drink, and it only takes like 2-3 to maintain peak happiness, so the crew are never even really that drunk

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it would have been funnier to put in consequences for drinking too much instead of limiting it to 1 drink per dive

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:40 PM

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what code language is a gd file?

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c++? c#?

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 6:41 PM

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GDscript, similar to C++ i believe but does have differences

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:41 PM

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gotcha

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ty

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 6:42 PM

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there is a decent bit of documentation if you google it though, and is pretty easy to understand from the things i've dealt with it

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:42 PM

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yeah no worries i will get there in time.
i was mainly asking cause im comparing the new and old MPU.gd

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:42 PM

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I've heard GDscript referred to as "If Lua and Python had a love child"

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:43 PM

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drones are now 0.8fe 0.2 pt

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 6:44 PM

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wasn't that what it was to begin with?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:44 PM

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it was 0.4fe 0.1pt

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 6:44 PM

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i see. same ratio just difference in numbers

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:45 PM

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yeah just a doubling of cost to make new drones

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:45 PM

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so it's more expensive now to print them? any changes to print speed?

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if not, gross

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I really don't like that at all

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:45 PM

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base mineral efficiency seems to be 0.8
mase remass efficiency down to 0.5

from 1 : 1

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 6:46 PM

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hm, when i'm next at my pc i'll decompile the new release and compare to an older one in case there's other code at play that also was changed

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:46 PM

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old code
const droneUnit = 1.0

new
const droneUnit = 0.1

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@paper spade

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:47 PM

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This is really just sounding like a drone nerf being slid in, which seems absurd, because it's already pretty abysmally slow

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I thought the Iron costs were good before, if anything it could have used more PT being used, but not more Iron

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:48 PM

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func getTuneables():
return {
"TUNE_MPU_SPEED": {
"type": "float",
"min": float(kgps) * 0.5,
"max": float(kgps) * 1.5,
"step": ceil(float(kgps) / 100),
"default": kgps,
"current": getKgps(),
"unit": "kg/s",
"testProtocol": "cargo"
}
}

this is the func for tuning

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 6:48 PM

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i don't exactly remember how it's handled, as for all we know it's handled as a ratio as drones are a continuous print instead of in sets of 10kg like ammo

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turns out there isn't a change in the ratio, my decompile from 1.60.0 has the following

const droneCostPerKg = {
    "Fe":0.8, 
    "Pt":0.2```

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:50 PM

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well that's good

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a ratio change would have been annoying

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:50 PM

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hmm. i should decompile my 1.6.0 again then.

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i might have saved a file i shouldnt have XD

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 6:51 PM

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that can always be something

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:51 PM

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I just wouldn't be able to stand a nerf to drone print ratios or speed right now kekNotLikeThis

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:51 PM

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if dronePrintTime > 0 and dronePrintCtr >= dronePrintTime:
if tryToDraw(droneCostPerKg, droneUnit):
ship.addDrones(droneUnit)
dronePrintCtr -= dronePrintTime
if dronePrintTime > 1:
if ship.isPlayerControlled() and printA:
printA.play()

old print formula

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:51 PM

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it's already on the conservative "Almost isn't worth it sometimes" side of balance, don't need to knee cap it any harder

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:52 PM

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if dronePrintTime > 0 and dronePrintCtr >= dronePrintTime:
if tryToDraw(droneCostPerKg, droneUnit):
ship.addDrones(droneUnit)
dronePrintCtr -= dronePrintTime
if dronePrintTime > 1:
if ship.isPlayerControlled() and printA:
printA.play()
new print formula

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no changes i can see

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:52 PM

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Yeah, nothing changed surrounding the drones, good

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:53 PM

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i dont see a reason why BR would fail to work.

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im going to load experimental and test it

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:54 PM

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like I said earlier, based on the patch notes, there's no reason why it shouldn't still work

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it might have some wonky interactions with the new efficiency thing, but it should still work as it would normally with default tuning

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:56 PM

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left grove if dronePrintTime > 0 and dronePrintCtr >= dronePrintTime: if tryToD...

I wish I could look at this and immediately understand what I'd need to change to make drones print faster, but alas, my brain does not have that skill, and math is my one true genuine weakness, I fuckin suck at math 😅

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:56 PM

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BR works confirmed

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 6:57 PM

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wonder if IoE works too, as i can see it maybe having issues with the preprocessors, but who knows

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:57 PM

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my broke af settings are 190% efficiency XD. 1500fe from a 794fe chunk.

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 6:57 PM

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lol

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:57 PM

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hollow pewter wonder if IoE works too, as i can see it maybe having issues with the preprocess...

already reported as working, at least works normally, unsure about if the efficiency tuning works as intended with it though

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 6:58 PM

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left grove my broke af settings are 190% efficiency XD. 1500fe from a 794fe chunk.

out here breaking the laws of physics and anime alchemy and probably some other laws at the same time

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 6:59 PM

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XD

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 7:00 PM

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paper spade out here breaking the laws of physics and anime alchemy and probably some other ...

look. i needed the processing speed and efficiency. i just made a new K225 variant lastnight and its got 180K processed storage internal. not even including the THICC Ports

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i dont want a ring dive to last me 12 hours irl XD

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also happy to report the BLIPDTs work
as do the multi drones.
and all my stuff XD

stable token Oct 12, 2024, 7:06 PM

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Is the multidrone stuff not part of K-Tech?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 7:09 PM

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zakrins

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i never made custom drones

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 7:12 PM

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the multi-drones aren't really a real mod, I just wrote an example for Rena to use for https://discord.com/channels/426287934870781952/1290925501250273343

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 7:26 PM

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Yeah, you can technically use multi-drones as-is right now, but it'll get a more fleshed out and polished release for NTCED soonTM when Rena's able to

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 7:32 PM

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left grove also happy to report the BLIPDTs work as do the multi drones. and all my stuff ...

yeah nothing about the update should have broken anything. koder and the gang are really good about not making wild sweeping changes all the time that always break things KEKW

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 7:33 PM

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left grove look. i needed the processing speed and efficiency. i just made a new K225 var...

Hurry up and release the Titan Cut, need more mounts sacrifice

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4 lasers, 2 deca drones, 4 monothiccs, very happy barrito

stable token Oct 12, 2024, 7:49 PM

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Ahh, whoops, thanks.

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:00 PM

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paper spade Hurry up and release the Titan Cut, need more mounts <a:sacrifice:12470177059037...

lmao. i still have to learn how to add more mount slots

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:06 PM

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Oreb for the Oreb God

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glorious

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 8:07 PM

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imagine if you could weaponize it. just send that hurling towards the nearest ship

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:08 PM

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you can technically semi-weaponize them right now if you have YeetProtocol installed and set the vibe check real high so it just throws everything everywhere

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spray and pray: ore style

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 8:08 PM

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lmao i didn't think of that

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:09 PM

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I'm actually very close to finally installing YeetProtocol and giving it shot, since I'm running 20 drone streams and made them not use nearly as much drone ammo, YeetProtocol might not burn through my supply nearly as hard

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I already had to start running the Id limit mod cause I create so many ore chunks I overwhelm default limits

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KEKW

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 8:13 PM

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yeah that's fair. it's an absolute shame that it does it, and frankly i'd be happy with either the limit or yeet protocol mods to help with it

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:14 PM

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Yeah, I get why the id limit exists, I just wish it was something we could tweak without a mod (not that it's really an issue that you need a mod for it, I fixed the one issue running mods had for me anyway KEKW )

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:14 PM

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i know im addicted to making DV mods now. i just made another mpdg mod from my chrome book remote logged into my desktop

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from my bed

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 8:15 PM

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paper spade Yeah, I get why the id limit exists, I just wish it was something we could tweak...

one way i wish it would work so that way it could be balanced would be tied to the number or experience of geologists, or just have the ability to buy them a better computer

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:16 PM

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hollow pewter one way i wish it would work so that way it could be balanced would be tied to t...

I think the main reason why it's limited in the first place is performance more than anything. I honestly don't see any real reason, other than potential performance cost concerns that would prevent such a system from being a thing

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it doesn't make much sense in any other context to me anyway, like make it make sense that my Geologists can't actually keep track of shit and have to re-indentify the same 4 piece of ore over and over again because there's just one too many pieces around KEKW

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:17 PM

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left grove i know im addicted to making DV mods now. i just made another mpdg mod from m...

I'm trying to actually play the game for a little bit for once, instead of modding or running my testing save where nothing I do really matters KEKW

hollow pewter Oct 12, 2024, 8:17 PM

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guess that would make sense, but given that most of the ore IDed is off screen, it would make sense just to not have them rendered which would provide probably a better impact

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:18 PM

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paper spade I'm trying to actually play the game for a little bit for once, instead of moddi...

go for it my dude. you wanna try out the stupid thrusters and torch i made last night?

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:18 PM

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I still have some plans for other PDT weapons, and I need to polish up and release the "Proper" PDT-Laser (which is hilariously underwhelming compared to mine, but BBW's lasers are even more bootleg than my own too)

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:19 PM

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left grove go for it my dude. you wanna try out the stupid thrusters and torch i made last...

collecting ore for the ore gods

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:20 PM

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lol nice let me know if you do. the titan loves them.. the reactor heat not so much (for "balance" reasons)

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:21 PM

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I usually either run MA350HOs and K44s or another combo that I can't remember off the top of my head

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the first combo is more for efficiency and being a boat, the second combo is more sporty, but sucks fuel hard

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:21 PM

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mine are running... 2000kn RCS. 8000kn Torch IF i put in the correct numbers in godot lol

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the torch is a "retooled ZAP drive, utilizing more robust parts, modified to burn remass directly from the ship stores"
its got double durability, half the repair cost, but 2x the repair time. and no burn time limit
roughly 3 second torch burst 150m/s

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:25 PM

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good lord

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:29 PM

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titan go vroom vroom

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it also costs more than the zapdrive on the titan. 3m E$

dark pike Oct 12, 2024, 8:32 PM

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paper spade It's my favorite method of keeping my crew happy, least amount of time spent to ...

Honestly, services are so potent that I rarely need the bars. If you use pretty much any service other than the capsule hotel to pass time, you can usually keep a smile on their face.

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Just from passing the repair time, mind, not doing any extra.

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:33 PM

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Do you have the option to switch which services you use when you do the "Launch Dive" to get the remaining time skip instead of doing it in the pre-set chunks?

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cause I've just always done the capsule default option to pass repair times and then use the bar if I want to make sure they're happy, but that won't be a viable option soon enough (I'm not on the latest branch, I tend to stick to stable, so I can keep doing it until it hits main)

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:36 PM

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personally i just manually pass the repair time with services first. but thats me, spending money cause the titan brings in the monies XD

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:37 PM

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I just like minimizing down-time and the amount of time skipping I do so I avoid paying the crew as frequently between hauls

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it's why I have 2 of the same setup titans, so I can swap when one needs to stay down for longer repairs

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:37 PM

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lmao

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:38 PM

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Koder doesn't support the corpo slave driver style

#

SCsobbing2

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:40 PM

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i kinda always thought that we just owned our own ships. hired the crew, and independently contracted to E for mining rights

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:44 PM

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Exactly, and Koder won't let us be corpo wage slave drivers who force our crews to be alcoholics who can't remember to ask for better pay and working conditions

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smh

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koder nerfed the corporate pizza party and I'm sad

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:48 PM

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ah fair i suppose lol

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 8:50 PM

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it's something I'll probably look at modding if/when it hits the stable branch, cause I rebase my decompile for those rather than the experimental branch releases, cause Koder can be a mad man sometimes and crank out multiple versions in a week KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 8:52 PM

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i just cant wait to see the in universe patch notes for the bar XD that should be funny

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:01 PM

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not even full and it's already more than what I'd make with my older setups gil_heh I love it

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:01 PM

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"Outrage among miners in the Enceladus system this week as a local meeting point nicknamed "the space bar" had to impose a strict limit on served drinks after a shipping error caused supplies to reach critical levels. " 😛

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:02 PM

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the most casual high value sell screen I've personally had KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:03 PM

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paper spade not even full and it's already more than what I'd make with my older setups <:gi...

niiice.

after i get some food in me, im gonna start trying to cook a "titan cut" as you call it. XD

#

give me a wish list of slots. keeping in mind that i dont know how to physically extend the hull yet. everything has to fit on the model as is 😛

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:04 PM

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well I just want a titan, like it is now, but like 2-4 extra mounts

#

instead of 8, 10-12

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then I can still cram 4 lasers, 2 decas and 4 monothiccys

#

KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:05 PM

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ok.. that would be weaponslot.tscn right?

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:05 PM

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nah, I'm pretty sure that's a ship scene joint

#

cause I think the ship needs to have actual physical space for the thing to be installed, on top of having the slots allowing said things to be installed

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:06 PM

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i will take a look. zakrin showed me a picture and said i just have to copy paste something .. but i gotta find it buried in here XD

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:07 PM

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ope, I just re-looked at YeetProtocol and something tells me it might conflict with multi-drones.... monkaHmm

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wait, nope.... I don't think it should....

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:11 PM

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ok figured that out really quick. now to figure out moving them physically on the ship XD

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:16 PM

#

huh, YeetProtocol does not seem to work like the name would suggest.... either I don't understand how this is supposed to work or it doesn't work like I expect it, orrrr ti doesn't work....

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:16 PM

#

oh?

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:19 PM

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paper spade then I can still cram 4 lasers, 2 decas and 4 monothiccys

TWO of these are going to only support drones.

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:20 PM

#

yeah, it doesn't seem like it works, or if it does, it doesn't do what I expected based on the name

#

cause what it seems like it's doing is what regular drones do, which is try to grab unmarked ores until they're marked, and then gives up on them, resulting in stuff mostly getting thrown on a course to hit your ship instead of "getting yeeted away" like I was figuring

#

like based on this, this mod either doesn't currently work, or doesn't work as this makes it sound like it would

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:22 PM

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the wording makes it sound like it should yeet ores that you filter out

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:22 PM

#

unless my original assumption was correct and YeetProtocol and Multi-drone somehow conflict

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:22 PM

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possibly

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:22 PM

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maybe Yeet doesn't work on drones using the multi-drone-plant.gd and only drone-plant.gd?

#

but multi-drone-plant.gd extends drone-plant, so that really doesn't make sense to me

#

but what I was experiencing certainly isn't what I would call "YeetProtocol" kekNotLikeThis

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 9:26 PM

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I can take a look later to add compatability if they're conflicting

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:31 PM

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I think if there's a conflict it's probably the both of them using/tweaking func scanForTarget(s) (delta):

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 9:31 PM

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oh yeah, I had to take a hammer to that function for the multi-drones to work

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:32 PM

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yeah and this suggests that it should be yeeting away from the ship and I am simply not experiencing that the way I would expect

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so I do assume there's a conflict between the two, probably related to func scanForTarget

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KEKW

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 9:35 PM

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yeah so basically what's happening

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is my code is only scanning for minerals you want

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so it just ignores minerals you would want to yeet away

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:37 PM

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huh... would that also happen if I were to use the vanilla drones? because it didn't seem to be yeeting the ore that fails the vibe check even with those.....

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Short of pulling out every other mod and testing that, I'm starting to think YeetProtocol just doesn't actually work properly anymore kekNotLikeThis

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or I woefully misunderstand what it's actually trying to do

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cause with the regular MLF Haul Drones it did not "Eat up quite a bit of drones" or "Yeet away the chunks that fail the geologist check", at least not the way I assume it would based on the descriptions KEKW

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 9:40 PM

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well, first it's only set to work with hauls, and it still has to compete with minerals you actually want it to work on

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but yea, from your description it may no longer work

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:41 PM

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right, I get that, but the actual yeeting away of failed minerals does not actually seem to be happening

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at most it seems to occasionally slightly bump things so it doesn't hit the shp

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but "yeet away from the ship" based on the description and that "DesiredYeetVelocity" bit, it's not working

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I'm gonna try changing YeetProtocol to func scanForTargets from func scanForTarget and see if that does anything, cause that's one obvious difference between your script and theirs (obviously ignoring the many other obvious differences)

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 9:45 PM

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depending on load order, that will either do nothing, or cause the game to crash

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probably just nothing tbh

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:46 PM

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I'm just trying to figure out why it doesn't even seem to be working with vanilla drones, but I'm probably outta my depth on this one KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:48 PM

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@neon yacht sorry i dont like pining normally. how do i remove or specify what item can go into a specific slot?

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 9:48 PM

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that's handled by upgrades.tscn

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:48 PM

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so not handled on the ship tscn. got it.

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 9:49 PM

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you set the slot type on the slot, and the relevant entry in upgrades controls what items show up

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:50 PM

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i set the slot type on the slot inside of upgrades.tscn or the ship tscn

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just making sure i get this right lol

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 9:50 PM

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ship scene, in the inspector on the right when you select the weaponslot node

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:51 PM

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ah so "slot middleLeft"

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 9:51 PM

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yeah, that field

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if you check upgrades.tscn, you can see what slots already exist

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otherwise you would have to make new ones which is more work

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:52 PM

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ah ok ill see what i can do ty

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 9:52 PM

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neon yacht depending on load order, that will either do nothing, or cause the game to crash

shocker, you were right, it appeared to do nothing kekNotLikeThis

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 9:54 PM

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neon yacht if you check upgrades.tscn, you can see what slots already exist

ok so weaponSlot.leftDrone.type ONLY allows drones in it. gotcha.

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 10:07 PM

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paper spade shocker, you were right, it appeared to do nothing <:kekNotLikeThis:124619588011...

yeah, I'm stumped on this one. I do feel fairly confident in saying it doesn't actually work as intended anymore though, or it's just got a seriously misleading name and description leading to improper expectations of function.

I'll tap out on this, my focus is shot as hell right now, and I'm sure someone else can figure this one out KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:29 PM

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ok im stumped on my own stuff too lmao.
added slots to the ship scene.
but what else do i add them to to show up under the equipment screen

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 10:36 PM

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if you're doing slots that don't already exist like say a "Bay5" and "Bay6" for a titan with 6 bay slots instead of 4. I'm pretty sure you'd need to also add those new slots to Upgrades.tscn, or possibly one of the scenes that gets inherited into that scene's nodes.

Not entirely sure, but that's my best guess

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:38 PM

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paper spade if you're doing slots that don't already exist like say a "Bay5" and "Bay6" for ...

so far this is what i have

left and right 4 are for salvage arms. (but i might scrap those for a different model)

L R 3 are meant to be only drones.

L R 2 are additional weapons.

the THICC slots remain untouched. (this thing will be BUSTED lmao)

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brb checking on food

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 10:39 PM

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I've got no personal experience with modding ships or adding new slots that didn't already exist and just adding to those slots

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so I'm really not sure

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 10:42 PM

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All good. I will load up the ocpdrone and see if I can follow along on that since it adds a new slot

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:07 PM

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wow yeah i was overcomplicating that lmao.

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@paper spade

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:13 PM

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jesus christ

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:13 PM

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yeah not sure how im going to handle the key binds

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lmao

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but you wanted something crazy.

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:14 PM

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I mean the better question is how does that even logically work.... jjjkek

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:14 PM

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well i did lower the power drain on my BLI mod. 3mj per laser in tuning

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im cooking some minor slot tweaks right now

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:15 PM

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no I mean how does that layout even logically work, you've basically doubled the slot count of everything on the ship

but it's still just a regular titan

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:20 PM

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oh well

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:20 PM

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left grove but you wanted something crazy.

I mean, I did, but I didn't mean batshit bonkers KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:20 PM

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the original titan had cargo pod slots under the front two weapon slots to begin with.

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logically one you assume that you can just have slots on top of all the pod slots. since its in a little docking bay

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:21 PM

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That's probably explained with "something something the cockpit being on that segment allows for further reinforcing of the hull that allows for mounting weapons atop the bays" or something

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:21 PM

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the read engine bell mounts are not for weapons tho. i just dont know how to limit them

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its supposed to be just salvage arms lmao

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:22 PM

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sketchy place to put arms, right near the ass and reactor KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:22 PM

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paper spade That's probably explained with "something something the cockpit being on that se...

those pod bays should be reinforced anyway, since each one can hold up to 90Tons of material.

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:23 PM

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paper spade sketchy place to put arms, right near the ass and reactor <:KEKW:119013103511196...

never said it was a smart design. this is like. after market ringa build

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:24 PM

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I guess I'm just learning that I'm less Bootleg than the name implies jjjkek

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between the game's own "PDT Laser" for BBW, and now this, I gotta change the company's name to "Not So Bootleg Industries" KEKLEO

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:24 PM

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when i upload the finalized version i will send it to ya for research purposes 😛

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im not bootleg, im just... overkill

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:25 PM

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You say that now until a salvage arm rams a ship up your ass and kills you kappa

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:25 PM

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bootleg is strapping lasers onto an auto target mount.

overkill is strapping more of those mounts onto a freighter 🙂

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:26 PM

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I mean I didn't even slap it on to anything, I just told the CL-200AP that it was allowed to use more than a quarter of a degree of gimbal angle jjjkek

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the rest was word soup to "explain" why it's so gangster compared to the CL-200AP kekVibe

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:28 PM

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XD nice. i was wondering how you managed it

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:30 PM

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Yeah, it's literally just a CL-200AP cloned out into it's own item, given it's own name and some flavor text and stat display to match what it's got, but other than that it's a CL-200AP that's allowed to gimbal more (and subsequently has a larger targeting area) and with the wear value tweaked slightly, which I still need to tweak

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need misaligns and the other one to be a bit more prominent, cause right now the wear is a little aggressive, but wear also doesn't really do anything negative to the lasers tbh, so it's really just a "Dump money into repairing/replacing them so they aren't red/yellow anymore" KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:33 PM

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oh lol good to know

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the beast is ready to probably kill itself lmao

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:36 PM

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gonna laugh if the arm just smacks the rods and blows up immediately

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KEKW

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I'd assume it's off axis and not actually able to intersect with it, but it would be hilarious if it happened anyway

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:37 PM

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you mean the heat fins?

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those seem to be off axis they never hit anything

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:38 PM

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I know, I'm just saying, would be hilarious if putting arms in that location was the thing that managed to smack them and blow you up

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:38 PM

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oh yeah that would

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:39 PM

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left grove its supposed to be just salvage arms lmao

if it's supposed to be just salvage arms, and absolutely nothing else, you can just add the arm scene to the ship directly, and not bother with the weaponslot

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:40 PM

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i might need to do that...
my boy a bit special right now

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:41 PM

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and I would probably rotate the center hardpoints a little so they face away from the ship and don't shoot itself in the back

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:41 PM

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OCP enjoyers boutta lose their minds when they find out the Titan is getting an insane glowup

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:42 PM

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left grove i might need to do that... my boy a bit special right now

there's a toggle for 'mirrored' or something on the arm scene that you probably want to hit

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:42 PM

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ah i will check on that

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:42 PM

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paper spade OCP enjoyers boutta lose their minds when they find out the Titan is getting an ...

eh kinda. but my arms arent good for actual mining.

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:43 PM

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yeah, but the OCP is the only ship that can do dual salvage at the same time, you're about to shoot that in the face, that was my point

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:43 PM

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might do arms on front and the laser mounts on back. so it can crab feed

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IoE shot it first with the titan HH.

im just beating the corpse lmao

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and dancing on the grave cause this thing still has 180K processed material storage

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:44 PM

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making the Titan into an actual black hole with it's mass to volume ratio

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:45 PM

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why do you think i made main torches and RCS so strong XD?

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i need to push the singularity somehow

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:45 PM

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because the ship weighs 2millon kgs

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:45 PM

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360K Kg currently

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in sim

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:46 PM

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well yeah, but you have 6 monothiccs on it

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KEKW

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and the insane 180,000kg processed mat storage to boot

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:47 PM

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oh i know. i think this thing has a total of 2.7m storage

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cause thats 180K PER ore.

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:48 PM

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And I thought I was throwing balance to the wind and dunking on the "sidegrades only" philosophy

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I am merely childs play

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jjjkek

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:48 PM

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Hi, Im Kad. I break things 😄

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:50 PM

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paper spade I am merely childs play

new crazy BLI idea

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:50 PM

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PDT-Gungir, I know, get in line

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:50 PM

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modify the THICCs to be detachable PDLTs that fly in formation with you and attack targets

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:50 PM

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oh god no

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wheezeNuke

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:50 PM

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XD

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:50 PM

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I wouldn't trust those little fuckers with weapons

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they're so brainless

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:51 PM

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im laughing so hard im turning freaking red

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:51 PM

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I can't even have those little bastards fly in formation cause they insist on the formation being "right in the fuck way of my weapons"

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no way am I gonna give those things guns and trust them to not shoot me in the reactor the first chance they get

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KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:52 PM

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as for the pdt gungir, never used it personally, so im not really in line for it XD

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and i suppose thats fair

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@neon yacht i cant find a mirror setting for the arm. i might just drop the arms for now.

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:53 PM

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PDT-CL-600P and PDT-Gungir have been the two that immediately popped up after I did my first one, and I'm not opposed to it, I'm just lazy and spent a solid week burning my brain trying to learn the little I know now, and then had a bit of the wind taken out of my sails when I realized a couple things I wanted to attempt were just out of my reach KEKW

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:54 PM

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ah fair

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i got really sad when i hit the reactor and capacitor limits

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:54 PM

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I know I can probably learn and improve, but some of my ideas likely involve getting deeper into the GDscript stuff and I struggle with understanding actual programming stuff

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:54 PM

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left grove <@367512738521415680> i cant find a mirror setting for the arm. i might just dr...

I don't remember exactly what it's called, but i swear it exists lmao

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:54 PM

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but then i moved to RCS and torches to continue learning 😄

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:55 PM

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neon yacht I don't remember exactly what it's called, but i swear it exists lmao

its under the SALVAGE_ARM right? not the slot itself

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:55 PM

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I think so

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:55 PM

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ok i will check again to be sure i didnt miss it

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"Flip"

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found it with search bar

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:56 PM

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👍

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:56 PM

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paper spade I know I can probably learn and improve, but some of my ideas likely involve get...

the current child

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:57 PM

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neon yacht and I would probably rotate the center hardpoints a little so they face away fro...

actually un-required, I've mounted lasers to the middle bays and I've never done any damage to myself

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it might clean up any potential sight line blocking though, so no harm in doing it either

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KEKW

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:58 PM

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i was more concerned for other weapons tbh

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:58 PM

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it was actually one of the things I was surprised wasn't an instant issue with my lasers on the titan KEKW

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:58 PM

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neon yacht i was more concerned for other weapons tbh

ah, fair, Kad just kept showing it off with my lasers so I thought it was related to that

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:58 PM

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its aliiive!

neon yacht Oct 12, 2024, 11:59 PM

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it lives !

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:59 PM

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left grove its aliiive!

I hate it and love it, I'll take 12

left grove Oct 12, 2024, 11:59 PM

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bruh i dont dare put anything else on it OTHER than your lasers right now

paper spade Oct 12, 2024, 11:59 PM

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you wanna put worse lasers on it?

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KEKW

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I can do that for ya

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:00 AM

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HMMM BUT WHAT IF...

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:00 AM

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most of the translation in this is literally ripped from PDT-Laser so the stats aren't accurate

📎 BootlegRealPDT-Laser.zip

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but this is the actual official, already exists in the files, PDT-Laser (not the really good and bootleg one BBW uses though)

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:01 AM

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with 180K Fe to fuel 4 gungir i might be able to fire for 0.5 seconds

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:01 AM

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that's probably why the Gungir is going to be the last thing I PDTify

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KEKW

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I rarely use things that use ammo

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:01 AM

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but i can evaporate anything in front of me

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i assume

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never used one. no clue what it does

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:01 AM

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it can kill yourself if you're not careful

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gil_heh

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:02 AM

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oh?

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is that the "residual charge" warning?

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:04 AM

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I'll let you FAAFO

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gil_heh

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:04 AM

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oh i have no interest in the gungir. im keeping the busted lasers lmao

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time for a test dive

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:05 AM

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you should try out the real PDT lasers for giggles, and to appreciate the bootleg ones that much more

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it's actually hilarious to me that my way of doing it, while being more work, was honestly the better route to go with it rather than just unlocking the PDT-Laser that does exist in a useable state

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:06 AM

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lmao

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oh i forgot to change the keybindings lmao

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guess this is gonna be an interesting dive

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:06 AM

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it's also, kinda a very similar way the game actually does BBW's fancy pdt lasers we all want but can't have

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jjjkek

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:07 AM

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the green looking ones?

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:08 AM

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the ones that seem to obliterate things whenever BBW is even remotely nearby KEKW

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those are actually some janky bootleg specials KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:09 AM

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ah

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:09 AM

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the mod I posted in here for the "Real" PDT-Laser is the PDT-Laser from the IRRS-T

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:10 AM

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nice

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idk what that is tho. but nice

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hmm i might need to reduce the mid laser rotation so they can all cover the same targets

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:12 AM

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that's why I actually really like the stock weapon slots layouts on the titan with my lasers, cause I specifically didn't do Sanbus on mine so they could do that whole "Shoot at the same target and make it absolutely go byebye" thing gil_heh

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and was surprised it didn't immediately make the titan kill it's self

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:13 AM

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so.. if i pop sanbus on it handles targets better?

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:13 AM

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you can put 8 lasers on a stock titan and it doesn't just murder it

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:13 AM

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nice lol

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:13 AM

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left grove so.. if i pop sanbus on it handles targets better?

Sanbus makes it so none of the weapons with Sanbus can aim at the same target

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which is either a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how you see it and how you like your weapons to behave

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:14 AM

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ah

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:14 AM

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no sanbus is how the PDMWGs work, and is how I wanted my lasers to work, so I didn't do sanbus for them

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like Sanbus is good on paper and in theory, but I often really dislike the fact that it means none of the sanbus weapons will ever work on the exact same target in most cases

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and I'm always about having all my weapons hitting the same giant ringoid I don't want to smash into at 30+m/s

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gil_heh

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:15 AM

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yeah sanbus seems good for small rock clearing, but bad for giant roid clearing

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:16 AM

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I just find the "advanced targeting" and sanbus stuff to be more annoying than useful

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:17 AM

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its great for drones

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:17 AM

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the "dumb" targeting and no sanbus might also have some quirky behavior for weapons, but it's honestly less frustrating to deal with for me KEKW

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:17 AM

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left grove its great for drones

oh yeah, drones honestly need sanbus to exist efficiently

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you'd waste soooooo many more drones if it didn't have sanbus

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:18 AM

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yeah

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time to let this baby drift for a bit lmao

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:22 AM

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I need it, with functioning keybinds for the arms and all the weapon slots KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:22 AM

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help me figure out what keys i can use for that and you got a deal lmao

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:22 AM

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and maybe a sliiiightly less insane combined ore capacity KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:23 AM

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what would you say is slightly less

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:23 AM

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I'd say something like 25k per ore type for internal processed storage would still be a lovely bump in capacity without being just pure unhinged

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:24 AM

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i can agree to that

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and its balanced a bit better for general use

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twin decahauls are murdering my drone storage lol

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PONDER THE OREB

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:25 AM

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and is a little less likely to full on require modded thrusters too, cause you can just use the very strong and not fuel efficient ones the game already has

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:25 AM

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you dont want to go 150m/s with a single key tap?

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:25 AM

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left grove PONDER THE OREB

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

Tenor

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:25 AM

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cant do more. ran out of drones

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:25 AM

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RIP

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:25 AM

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waiting for more to print

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:25 AM

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:26 AM

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gonna go get more food while that cooks lol

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 12:26 AM

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paper spade https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

*M(ORE)

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:26 AM

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left grove waiting for more to print

this is why I just halved the drone weight to 0.05kg from 0.1kg, and put it at 25 drones per second instead of 50

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:26 AM

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paper spade I'd say something like 25k per ore type for internal processed storage would sti...

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:26 AM

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probably don't even need to go that far, but it makes it far less painful

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:27 AM

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paper spade this is why I just halved the drone weight to 0.05kg from 0.1kg, and put it at 2...

dunno where to do that yet

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:27 AM

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I did it in multi-drone

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gil_heh

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:27 AM

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hmm ill have to go hunt for that

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1.1m of vanadium and some iron and plat. the monocargos arent even filled yet (all set to W for maximum Win)

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:28 AM

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WeaponSlot.tscn, in the script variables for the drones it adds

"Drone Weight Kg" and "Drones Per Second" are the two you're looking for in the list

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Drones Per Second is higher up, Drone Weight is lower in the list

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:29 AM

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left grove 1.1m of vanadium and some iron and plat. the monocargos arent even filled yet (...

"some iron and some plat" has 90,000kg of iron and 83,000kg of plat

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jjjkek

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just a lil bit

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a smidge

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:30 AM

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only a bit

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besides thats all for more drones

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:30 AM

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your game is gonna be running for a week to print through all that

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jjjkek

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:30 AM

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lmao

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:31 AM

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I really do need to try and bash my head against that wall one of these days, drone printing is so slow even when you crank it to the lowest value the engine will take before defaulting again

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:31 AM

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I mean... The shps just floating while I'm in Godot. So yeah it can print for a bit lol

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:32 AM

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right but it takes like 10 minutes to print like 2000kg of drones, it's insane

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KEKW

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and that's assuming you turn the drones off and make sure they don't fire off at anything

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lulw

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:32 AM

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Lol

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I left it sitting still. Only random chunks that float close will trigger it now

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:34 AM

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when you break the laws of physics and make the drones half the weight and only use 25/s instead of 50/s though, that printing thing becomes waaaaaaaay less of an issue

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I've actually yet to run out of my 20K kg storage running 2 deca drones with the way I have it setup

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I've gotten down to like 15K on the storage when it gets real poppin, but by the time my containers fill up and I'm about ready to switch to raw ore mode for a bit, I've usually gotten back to at least 19k without having to sit and wait in place for multiple minutes

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:36 AM

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Don't worry. When I finish with multi drones it's gonna be fiiiiine

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I honestly might borrow the mod. As a "competitor" to renas lmao

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:38 AM

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I'm honestly gonna keep running multi-drones in the way I have it setup, and probably just drop in my own translations file and give it some Bootleg sauce and then just keep it as one of my purely personal bootleg projects KEKW

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won't even end up on the github lulw

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:39 AM

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yeah this ship is probably going to remain here. personally shared around to peeps that want it

neon yacht Oct 13, 2024, 12:40 AM

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glad you guys enjoy the funni drone mod

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:40 AM

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I already added a Quad drone and a "Dodeca" drone which is incorrectly named for giggles but it's a 20x launcher

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:40 AM

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neon yacht glad you guys enjoy the funni drone mod

funni drone mod is very good, and I need to disect it and make funni multi-beam laser mod happen now KEKW

neon yacht Oct 13, 2024, 12:41 AM

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disco mod

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:41 AM

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cat_yes

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:41 AM

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ok hold up i have a silly question.

im seeing here that you have a single drone plant. and the weapons slot tscn references that single item.

have i been doing this crap backwards the whole time?

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:41 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/lasers-concert-lights-gif-5102526

Tenor

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front of the titan be like

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:43 AM

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ive been making individual auxmpd.tscn files for each MPDG and thruster. and adding them to the same auxslot.tscn file.

can i just ref the same auxmpd.tscn file and change the stats in the auxslot.tscn file to make a new version.?

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i did that shit backwards.... didnt i.

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:43 AM

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if I'm not mistaken, yeah, both approaches are valid

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:43 AM

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lmao. task failed successfully

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might also explain why i was having trouble making all of my MPDGs work inside the same mod zip

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:45 AM

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not necissarily, there's some places where the game does the whole "one base scene inherited and tweaked else where" for thing and others do more specific base scenes that inherit from another base scene for stuff

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:46 AM

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whats "drone amount" i changed drones per second and weight.

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:46 AM

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both approaches are valid, and depending on what you're doing, one might be easier than the other. But Za'krin's approach is probably the more elegant and smaller in file size way to do things for most stuff

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:47 AM

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left grove whats "drone amount" i changed drones per second and weight.

Drone amount is how you set how many drone streams it has

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1 = 1 drone

100 = 100 drones

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:47 AM

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so 1 is 1 chunk. 100 is 100 chunks pulled?

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yep confirmed looking at infini haul

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:47 AM

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1 is 1 drone

100 is 1 drone that acts like it's 100 drones

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:47 AM

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ty

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Drones Per Second is what I've been assuming to be the "How much drone ammo per second does this use" value (and I think I've been right)

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:48 AM

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yeah that makes sense there

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:49 AM

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and then I'm not really entirely sure what changing the drone weight is realllllllly doing, but I've halved it with the halved drones per second, and it's been rather nice for deca+ levels of things

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I assume if you just halved the weight, it would effectively make 20K KG be 40K KG of effective drones, but I'm really not actually sure exactly what messing with the drone weight on the launchers themselves does

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KEKW

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hell, the drone weight might even make printing drones more effective, I have no clue lulw

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:52 AM

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whats the lowest sanity check for drone weight you have tried

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:52 AM

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lowest I've tried has been 0.05, I assume that one is going to go as low as 0.01 before it defaults

neon yacht Oct 13, 2024, 12:53 AM

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check the infinidrones (:

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:54 AM

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oh, you did 0

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neat

neon yacht Oct 13, 2024, 12:54 AM

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they're actually infinite

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:54 AM

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the infinihaul have no drone usage?

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:54 AM

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what a wacky thing

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KEKW

neon yacht Oct 13, 2024, 12:54 AM

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yea

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:54 AM

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dang thats nice

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:54 AM

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left grove the infinihaul have no drone usage?

no they have very high magic drone usage

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:54 AM

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lol

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:55 AM

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drones magically have no weight or limit or resource

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they just exist

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pocket drone swarm

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:55 AM

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i always assumed the "infini" part of the name was due to the amount of launchers on it

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 12:55 AM

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the answer: yes

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 12:55 AM

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XD

neon yacht Oct 13, 2024, 12:55 AM

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little bit of A, little bit of B

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:00 AM

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paper spade the answer: yes

24k or 26k internal storage

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i forgot what you said earlier lol

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:00 AM

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25K, but 24K is also reasonable

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:00 AM

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i mean. ANYTHING is more reasonable than what i set

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:00 AM

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accccccurate

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:03 AM

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ok gonna walk the roomies dog and then i will get this ship tested and zipped for delivery

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:04 AM

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When that happens I'll have to just accept that "YeetProtocol" isn't a thing I can have, and instead, enact the "EatProtocol" and just not filter anything anymore and eat everything

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can't have left over ore debris you want to yeet if you ate it all

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bigbrain

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:06 AM

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left grove ok gonna walk the roomies dog and then i will get this ship tested and zipped fo...

oh yeah, reminder to not have the mod setup in the "force it to show up in the dealer" way for the actual release 👍

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probably don't want it to be constantly in the dealer for normal gameplay KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:12 AM

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Oh yeah I will fix that too

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Good call

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Should I even release this to the public? Or will koder hunt me down and send me to spacebar jail

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:15 AM

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pff, koder hasn't nuked the modloader and there's been a number of "not very dV in nature" "balanced" mods made since it was added

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KEKW

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have you seen Za'krin's own Titan abomination?

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:17 AM

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yeah

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:18 AM

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so you're safe lulw

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:18 AM

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i think they shared a picture of it last night. i probably mistook it for an IoE titan lmao

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it was like. 5am. my brain was fried

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im REALLY debating it

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:21 AM

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:21 AM

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currently my broken 225 is "sufficient child" which is hilarious too

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my stock 225 is "fat child"

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:22 AM

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my 2 titans are North Spacefellow and Anticipated Buffoon

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the second one is my personal favorite of the two

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:22 AM

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eyy i think my original K37 was an anticipated buffoon

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one of my THIMCS is named "star criticism" and i keep thinking it says "star citizen" lmao

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:24 AM

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one of these days I might look into a mod that forces containers and drones to be named as a sub variant of the name of the ship they're mounted to instead of the random that it is now

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that's probably a larger project though

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:25 AM

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probably. im fairly sure the pods are named randomly because they are ships themselves

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:25 AM

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but it would be awesome to have your containers or drones always have names that relate to the ship's name

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I think one of my containers at one point was called "Anticipated Wizard" or something like that

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and it was an awesome lil moment of "heh, they're matching themes"

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:29 AM

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hmm something i have not figured out yet is a custom dealer info panel with all the info other ships have

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 1:29 AM

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I would not be shocked if part of it is handled by translation files

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I think the promo image part is handled differently, but I'm not super sure how that all works tbh

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:30 AM

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promo image should be working. but its not again.. dunno if thats cause im forcing it to spawn in the list or not

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 1:57 AM

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starting test dive.

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lmao 0.01 drone weight is how much it drains from storage

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i think drones per second is the animation sprite? not sure there

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 2:34 AM

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paper spade I would not be shocked if part of it is handled by translation files

gotta put her back in the oven for a few more minutes. the mid lasers collide on the thiccs and cant hit targets

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confirmed that drone weight is how much you pull from the storage when using a drone. so 0.01 kg basically just means 0. cause our MPUs balance that out perfectly

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 2:50 AM

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@paper spade
cant collide with anything if i can make it fit lmao

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 2:51 AM

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KEKW

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 2:51 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-mini-me-gif-527567897262279175

Tenor

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 3:08 AM

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paper spade <:KEKW:1190131035111964732>

its insane. i love it

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neon yacht Oct 13, 2024, 3:09 AM

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it really is starting to look like a rave

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I really wanna make disco lasers now

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 3:09 AM

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XD

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 3:09 AM

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left grove

Glorious

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 3:10 AM

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neon yacht I really wanna make disco lasers now

Multi-drone, but Multi-beam, you're already like 60% of the way there

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🤣

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 3:10 AM

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going to test the arms next. just fixing the drone mod up a bit more.

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 3:37 AM

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sad but i think i have to put the lasers back to 1x scale. scaling them down reduced the range

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:13 AM

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@neon yacht by chance do you have a cheatsheet for the OMS keys i can assign to things?

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:36 AM

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Salvage test works good after changing the thruster layout
(these are my custom RCS and Torch btw)

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 4:39 AM

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nice nice, are the arms able to be toggled on and off still?

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:41 AM

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not yet

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still trying to figure out how to change the keybinds for them

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currently i cant turn off the drones either

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 4:41 AM

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might hard coded to the slot type and amount of slots?

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:42 AM

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i really hope not

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lol

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 4:42 AM

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or in there somewhere

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:45 AM

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the problem is that the keys are currently odd if you don't move the torches' key

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:45 AM

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oh? please do tell.

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:46 AM

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you have 1-9 available, 0 is used by the torch toggle, then you'd continue with -, =, and BACKSPACE

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:46 AM

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ok so random letters on the keyboard wont work.

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:47 AM

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i mean they could be, it's totally up to you, just it would be a bit odd at least in my opinion

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:48 AM

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true, im just trying to figure out how to handle it.
is it toggle command or command

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:49 AM

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honestly idk, never dealt with it personally. always the fuck around and find out which one it is

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:49 AM

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ah fair

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i will try this and see how it goes

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ty tho

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:49 AM

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np.

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 4:49 AM

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pretty sure putting w in that field assigns it to be able to be fired with your "Fire weapons" hotkey so probably space

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in command that is

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not sure what else it can do, but I do recall seeing some things like weapons have w in that field

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:50 AM

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yeah that might be it, as i do remember think it was lurkily saying that a toggle you can add manually in the config is 'w' to double tap the tools

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:51 AM

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yeah. i had to remove w from the arms slots since they dont really need to be fired manually in this position

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:52 AM

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yeah, plus they're tied to the excavator usually

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since that's not exactly a possibility, unnecessary really

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 4:53 AM

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I'm trying to poke around in the game files and I honestly have no clue how keybinds are being assigned to slots/equipment

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:54 AM

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Maybe i should just ditch the arms idea. throw in 2 more PDLTs, move them to the engine bell and face them backwards for defense XD

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 4:55 AM

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honestly I like the arms more than another set of weapon mounts

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🤣

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:55 AM

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fair but how the heck am i supposed to stow them. i cant even assign a key to them

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:55 AM

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while we're on the subject of silly additions, why not a K37 excavator on the two frontal docking bays?

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:56 AM

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huh?

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:56 AM

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have the arms at the rear chuck ore into the ship from the side since it can't reach the front

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:56 AM

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omg thats actually kinda funny

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.... dangit im trying to think how that would work now.

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 4:57 AM

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have fun reworking all the collisions on the ship and mpus to make that happen though

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😅

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:57 AM

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lmao yeah

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:57 AM

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well the 225 has the benefit of being a huge tube so having the excavators on the upper sides near the front isnt a bad idea...

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:57 AM

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left grove .... dangit im trying to think how that would work now.

honestly the idea i had was a beak attached where the docking bay should be, similar to how the modified one has the docking bays using a torch slot instead

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:58 AM

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oh maybe the pelican excavator on the front.

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 4:58 AM

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that too, have the front one have an advantage compared to the side

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:58 AM

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yeah that variant with the torches was terrifying

neon yacht Oct 13, 2024, 4:59 AM

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left grove <@367512738521415680> by chance do you have a cheatsheet for the OMS keys i can ...

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:59 AM

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idk how to get one. but if i ever do im putting my custom torches on it

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 4:59 AM

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maybe you need to put one of your set of slots in your modified titan on one of these existing ship_slots for the Toggle Command?

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:59 AM

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neon yacht

LEGEND

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 4:59 AM

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still have no clue how keybinds work, just diggin blind

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 4:59 AM

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zakrin just got that covered

hollow pewter Oct 13, 2024, 5:00 AM

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dangit the one time i'm at my pc and i don't have the hard drive with my decompile on is the one time i am told where to find the debug keybinds lmao

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:01 AM

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looks like I wasn't crazy though, looks like the keybinds are assigned to a slot label and those are used in the "Toggle Command" field to assign it to a keybind group for said slot

neon yacht Oct 13, 2024, 5:03 AM

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if you wanna get fancy you can add more keybinds on runtime, but then you're getting into code territory

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I think barrito saw how it was done for the mpu key and 180 flip?

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:05 AM

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yep, I saw how it was done, and then did it worse 🙂

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who needs a keybind set for you by default, just open the config and set it yourself 🤣

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:05 AM

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side track question.

why does your droneplant constantly update on the disk? its not being changed, but every time i tab out of godot it wants me to reload it.

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:06 AM

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do you have it open in like NP++ by chance?

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:06 AM

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nope

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:06 AM

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are you absolutely sure? cause I've not had that

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:06 AM

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paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:06 AM

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I did have weird issues randomly with IoE one time, and I had to do a fresh import of that to get it to behave again

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might be a similar thing

neon yacht Oct 13, 2024, 5:07 AM

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neon yacht

save your files and hit reload current project

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see if that fixes it

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:07 AM

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yep fixed. dunno why it was doing that

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ty

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:08 AM

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project.godot more like project.confused

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:08 AM

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paper spade project.godot more like project.confused

yeah but you arent about to try swapping excavators lmao

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:09 AM

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I don't actually understand why you'd do that tbh, I don't think the arms should be useful for mining, there's already 10 suns worth of power of drone capability on that thing

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🤣

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:09 AM

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im not doing the side excavator thing. just the pelican swap

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im thinking about a version that just drops the entire slot for the arms.
if i learn how to do the keybinds later down the line i will make one that has arms again

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:10 AM

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you're gonna give a snaggle face 😭

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:10 AM

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left grove im thinking about a version that just drops the entire slot for the arms. if ...

I'm pretty sure you just need to assign it to an existing slot for the Toggle Command to lump it into an existing keybind

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:10 AM

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but digi think about it. the pelican scoop is larger. which means a larger target for the oreb

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:10 AM

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it may not be perfect but its better than having to get into the code side of things to add new ones

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:11 AM

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left grove but digi think about it. the pelican scoop is larger. which means a larger ta...

I can't, too much of my brain still considers some sliver of "balance" yours doesn't 🤣

deft bane Oct 13, 2024, 5:11 AM

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.>

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:11 AM

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im removing the arms FOR balance lmao

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some* balance

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:11 AM

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but arms for salvage, let the thing do salvage

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😠

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it's already a fat fuck it doesn't need a bigger mouth 🤣

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:12 AM

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it can already do salvage. i just cant stow the arms. i can absolutely deliver it as is and just let the arms to they thing lol

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:12 AM

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left grove it can already do salvage. i just cant stow the arms. i can absolutely deliver...

#1252866978075512863 message

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try this

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just add it to an existing slot group for the keybind

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:13 AM

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if you turn off all its options in the geo tab for the arms it can fully ignore everything.

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one sec checking

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:13 AM

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I was looking in the ship scene for the k225

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I noticed each of the slots on it have a slot name assigned in the "Toggle Comamnd" section, and those corrispond to the input mapping in the project settings for the different groups and their keybinds

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so I assume that's where it's being assigned for the existing keys the game has and knows about

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assigning a full on new keybind, like Za'krin said, is gonna involve the programming side of things

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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yeah so im doing something jank with it

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ALL the laser slots. are going to be 1.

both drones are 2.

both arms are 3

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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that's better than no control over some things

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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indeed

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:16 AM

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and the keybind grouping already happens

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so solid solution until you're able to do a more elegant keybind addition in the future maybe

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:18 AM

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ffffack. slot 3 is one of the thiccs

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:18 AM

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TogglePropulsion and ZKY (and subsequently M is For MPU and Turn N Burn on my repo) all have different examples of adding new keybinds that you can look at, at some point, and I'm sure Za'krin wouldn't be opposed to answering some questions on it, seeing as he's the one I stole turn n burn and m is for mpu from and used Toggle Propulsions simpler implementation 😅

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:19 AM

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left grove ffffack. slot 3 is one of the thiccs

might just need to lump the arms in with the Weapons grouping and have it be more of a "Stow for Astrogation" feature rather than an explicit toggle for individual equipment

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cause I tend to turn off my weapons and drones and arm if I have one when I do astrogation so that way nothing is trying to make debris or drag debris towards the proxy zone

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:20 AM

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true

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i found out slowing down the radar sweep makes blind spots in the proxy so you can sneak in some astrogation % each time its not looking at any debris in the zone

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:21 AM

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plus as mentioned the arm can be filtered in such a way that it basically does nothing when it's turned on, so that can be a workaround

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:22 AM

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left grove i found out slowing down the radar sweep makes blind spots in the proxy so you ...

right but if you're like astrogating in-ring to another in-ring location and have to be doing on-the-move setup, it's better to not be pulling in or making new debris, at least imo

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:22 AM

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what looks better btw. elbow forward or elbow backwards

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:22 AM

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elbow back

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:22 AM

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gotcha keeping it as is

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:23 AM

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like it was here

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yee

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:23 AM

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yeah thats elbow back

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:23 AM

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elbows forward would look goofy, and I think it would kinda maybe imply/make the arms more likely to smack into the booty? (I may just be blowing complete speculative smoke out of my ass on that one)

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 AM

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no i agree

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 AM

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plus it aligns with the radiator towers, definitely just the right way to orient those

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the ship speaks, and you listened

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 AM

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well that image is old af lol

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 AM

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I mean I know it's not the most recent showing, but it's still a good example of the arms

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:25 AM

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this is the current setup. the elbows just barely cover the radiators

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:25 AM

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I know they're more midship army bois now instead of on the butt

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:25 AM

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and it brings ships in towards the midship so the RCS that i moved around wont mess with them

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 AM

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yeah, but the forearms are alllllllllllmost in line with the towers, which is still basically the original vibe

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 AM

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left grove and it brings ships in towards the midship so the RCS that i moved around wont m...

yeah and probably just better to not have it super off COM

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 AM

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ye

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got the angle back 🙂

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:33 AM

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oh damn, they even stow almost like they were meant to be there

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😅

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:33 AM

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right?

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this one stows straight across. but loses the arm angle with radiators

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:34 AM

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left grove got the angle back 🙂

oh, another option you could do for the keybinds, excavator on 1, drones and lasers on 2

then you could have "no weapons no drones" toggle, while still having "arms do the thang or not" toggle

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either one works tho, just a thought that popped into my head looking at that video

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:35 AM

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hmmm

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an option to try after testing

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@paper spade know what vibe im getting from this now?

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paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:36 AM

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left grove this one stows straight across. but loses the arm angle with radiators

I think the ones that align with the radiators with the slighly off stowing is the better one tbh

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:36 AM

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agreed

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the slightly offset stowing kinda makes it look like its done with my shit

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:38 AM

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it honestly still looks like it was the way it was supposed to be on that ship

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:38 AM

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somehow lmao

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i did try to align the base of the arms with the mid hull as best i could

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:39 AM

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something something the designers really fuckin needed those arms to line up with the radiator stacks otherwise their families would be murdered for soup or some dystopian shit

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:39 AM

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its at an area near the old mid hull thrusters sat. so its "reinforced" there

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of course! you gotta align the arms with the radiators, otherwise its heresy

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:47 AM

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Ya know a neat utility mod idea for myself for later, or for anyone with the drive and time: Ship Dealer Refresher, mod that adds some sort of way to refresh the ship listings, useful for when you get a new ship mod and really want the chance to buy one

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:48 AM

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sounds like something out of my skill range lol

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:54 AM

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Yeah, sounds like something I'd need to spend some time with to figure out, but I figured I'd shoot it out, never know when Za'krin sees an idea and goes "Ya know, gimme like 15 minutes and I can probably whip up a solution for that"

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🤣

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 5:54 AM

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wanna know somethign silly but easy af to do?

change excavators on ships.

all they do is change the scale of the scoop

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 5:56 AM

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not surprised tbh 😅

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 6:12 AM

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im gonna test out a larger scoop. if it doesnt work or looks bad im gonna go back to small scoop

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 6:13 AM

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Free My Boy TitanXL the Titan Cut

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he did nothin wrong

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 6:13 AM

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ok nope. its doing the constant excavator grinding sound lol

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 6:14 AM

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the titan resists the mouth transplant

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 6:14 AM

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i wish the virtual service wasnt so pixelated

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 6:14 AM

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it has a mouth and it is screaming

left grove Oct 13, 2024, 6:14 AM

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e

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yup

paper spade Oct 13, 2024, 6:15 AM

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not me out here with a mod Za'krin cooked up to specifically shut the Eagle Prospector's grinders volume up cause it's too damn loud

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