[0.606.3] Continual small-impact damage in OMS slow-mo. | Kodera Software | Page 1

naive hawk Feb 20, 2023, 1:42 PM

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In the most recent dive of this game, I commonly noticed loud impact sounds in slow-mo with no apparent impact. While docked at a hab, I experiemented; I had a lot of cargo in a Titan 225, and while docked in a hab and in OMS, impact sounds were continuous. I noticed that every time I entered OMS, even briefly, repair drones launched, so I stopped and watched. While in OMS I was continually taking Faulty Connection damage.

I think the cargo is being registered as a bigger impact than it should while in slow-mo, and damage from inside the cargo bay isn't being prevented, as (I think?) it's supposed to be.

📎 dV.7z

uncut sigil Feb 20, 2023, 5:40 PM

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hm

I distinctly remember fixing a similar issue recently. A regression?

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Also, do symptoms over #1076801872767234118 look familiar?

naive hawk Feb 20, 2023, 9:00 PM

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Doesn't seem to be the same thing. I didn't notice unusual damage except when the OMS was open - I assume it's a physics issue tied to the timescale. That issue seems to be unusual damage dealt by normal impacts on a normal timescale.

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With the OMS closed, for example, my repair drones didn't launch, but if I opened it long enough to hear one clang (I assume there were constant internal impacts to feed this from the hab spin) then came out of it, they would immediately launch again.

uncut sigil Feb 21, 2023, 6:46 AM

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[0.606.3] Continual small-impact damage in OMS slow-mo.

uncut sigil Feb 21, 2023, 9:35 AM

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any chance for replication steps?

naive hawk Feb 21, 2023, 1:19 PM

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Let me load the save and see if I can make it consistent.

I didn't do anything special. Just mined, and hit slowmo, and heard clangs in cargo.

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Can't replicate.

naive hawk Feb 21, 2023, 1:53 PM

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I had noticed at the time that the excavator was a bit misaligned and wobbly. I wonder if I knocked it out of whack and it as banging on the hull.

uncut sigil Feb 21, 2023, 4:25 PM

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that might be the case

uncut sigil Feb 22, 2023, 9:29 AM

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TBH this sounds more like a cradle impact. You had cradles, right?

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btw, this is one of these circumstances where a screenshot - both of OMS and of the situation outside it - would clear up a lot of things and speed up replication considerably

naive hawk Feb 22, 2023, 11:06 AM

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I did, but I didn't observe any issues with either.

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The situation outside was relatively calm; I'm not sure a new screenshot would help more; equipment setup should have been exactly as in the save. It would also happen while drifting without thrust.

If I stumble on it again, I'll try to get video.

uncut sigil Feb 22, 2023, 12:33 PM

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naive hawk The situation outside was relatively calm; I'm not sure a new screenshot would h...

okay, let's try to figure this out without a screenshot:

what was the docking orientation?
how much processed cargo did you have in your containers and which ones?
how much raw cargo was in the cargo hold?

naive hawk Feb 22, 2023, 4:00 PM

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Well, it also happened while not docked. Docked is just when I stopped to watch it and test it; but I heard clanging a number of times while switching to OMS just out mining. The only real oddity is that it always kicked up during the OMS slowdown.

Docking orientation was facing the hab, in a 225. Cozy fit.

That save should have been taken immediately after returning, so I think (?) the ship's log should have a record of what I sold; 5-10 chunks in cargo while observing this, to subtract from processed cargo.

I had a general CC and a mono CC for W, so the front . . . right? Should have been light, taking half the W I got, the front left would have also have had a mix of other minerals. I think I was nearly maxed out on Pt. I wasn't really refusing any minerals, since I had a lot of drone storage and a voyager.

uncut sigil Mar 2, 2023, 9:35 AM

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I'm looking through these kinetic damage computations right now, but there is precious little data I can work with. Going in mostly blind and checking if all the deltas for kinetic damage are computed in the same way.

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The risk here is that if I tweak this non-symmetrically the damage in OMS/adrenaline will be less than it should be; is this a risk we want to take? @naive hawk

naive hawk Mar 2, 2023, 10:44 AM

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I think I would say that we will probably wait to see it happen again, in this or another report, and try and get more data before risking breaking things for it.

uncut sigil Mar 3, 2023, 8:35 AM

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can't replicate that, unfortunately. And the code I looked over seems solid.
made few optimizations along the way, so it's not time wasted.

Should it ever happen again, please record a video or at least grab screenshots; there might be circumstances we are missing.

One possible hint: watch out for ore wedged on your ship or between your ship and station when docking

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actually, I'm going to try to test that hypothesis now

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actually, this is challenging AF to pull off intentionally 😅

naive hawk Mar 3, 2023, 11:23 PM

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I don't think that's it; it continued while undocked.

Possibly something caught between a THICC and the ship.

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Also, I had a voyager, and was using the station to process, so I kept twisting - I would have kicked anything caught between us several times.

#[0.606.3] Continual small-impact damage in OMS slow-mo.