Game only works if I play the tutorial | Kodera Software | Page 1

winged thunder · 2023-02-15T21:26:36.882Z

Reproduction steps: 1. Start the game 2. click on a savegame Observations: - loading bar fills, fills, then stops almost full. - ringroids on menu screen stop spinning - Around this time there is a bobble in the music, or maybe it switched tracks? - Application is unresponsive, needs `kill -9` Workaround: 1. restart game 2. go to settings, enable `tutorial` 3. start fresh 😭

winged thunder Feb 15, 2023, 9:26 PM

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Reproduction steps:

Start the game
click on a savegame

Observations:

loading bar fills, fills, then stops almost full.
ringroids on menu screen stop spinning
Around this time there is a bobble in the music, or maybe it switched tracks?
Application is unresponsive, needs kill -9

Workaround:

restart game
go to settings, enable tutorial
start fresh 😭

📎 dv_stuck_on_loading.tgz

jagged falcon Feb 15, 2023, 9:36 PM

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start by verifying the game files / reinstalling - depending on the purchase platform. This looks like a corrupted game file.

winged thunder Feb 15, 2023, 10:16 PM

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purchase platform GOG. deleted game install, reran launcher, no change to behavior. Attaching output of find . -iname '*' -print0 | xargs -0 sha1sum > dv_shas.txt (which did not change during the reinstall)

📎 dv_shas.txt

winged thunder Feb 15, 2023, 11:09 PM

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Additional twist: completing the tutorial (all the way back to Enceladus station), then 'save and exit to main menu' allowed me to successfully load a game, but just starting the tutorial and trying to quit to main menu immediately gave the behavior as described in top-post

jagged falcon Feb 16, 2023, 8:00 AM

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Unfortunately, I can't replicate this on my side. Please try:

running the game executable on the terminal with --verbose command line flag; should not help stability, but the extra output can point to the problem.
running 0.606.0

winged thunder Feb 17, 2023, 12:07 AM

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both of these were run with $ stdbuf -o0 ./game/Delta-V.x86_64 --verbose > __filename__

no_tutorial.log is created by starting the game, and clicking on a previously saved game from the main menu. (freeze with progress bar ~ 80%)
with_tutorial.log is created by starting the game, going through the tutorial until enceladus, exiting to main menu, then clicking on a save game (loads game successfully)

📎 no_tutorial.log 📎 with_tutorial.log

jagged falcon Feb 17, 2023, 8:15 AM

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This is an interesting case.

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please add an (empty) ads dir just next to your logs and see if that changes things for you.

winged thunder Feb 17, 2023, 1:18 PM

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mkdir ~/.local/share/dV/ads creates a peer directory to logs, no noticeable change to behavior, no files are written there.

The attached file was created with strace -f ./game/Delta-V.x86_64 2> strace.log , and ^C to terminate shortly after the problem occurred. I was previously under the impression that SIGTERM was ineffective, but apparently the signal handler is still listening the 'frozen' state.

📎 strace.tgz

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You mentioned yesterday running 0.606.0, but that version hasn't made it through the GOG pipeline yet, I'll keep an eye out for it over the weekend.

jagged falcon Feb 17, 2023, 1:45 PM

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winged thunder `mkdir ~/.local/share/dV/ads` creates a peer directory to `logs`, no noticeable ...

do could you get me --verbose log after that?

winged thunder Feb 17, 2023, 11:47 PM

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verbose log after 0.606, 👍

jagged falcon Feb 18, 2023, 6:27 AM

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winged thunder verbose log after 0.606, 👍

verbose log after you put ads directory in the user data space, and it crashes. It should disable loading of the files that were last in the most recent problematic --verbose log

jagged falcon Feb 19, 2023, 10:24 AM

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@winged thunder 0.606.1 should be now available as a downloadable installer on GOG, could you check with that?

winged thunder Feb 19, 2023, 11:09 AM

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stdbuf -o0 ./game/Delta-V.x86_64 --verbose > 606_with_ads_dir.log

📎 606_with_ads_dir.log

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The exact same output was generated with 0.604.0, which surprised me to not find the string "0.604.0" or "0.606.1" inside

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$ ls -l ~/.local/share/dV 
total 536
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris    608 Feb 18 21:33 achievements.dv
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris    576 Feb 18 07:06 achievements.dvb
drwxrwxr-x 2 chris chris   4096 Feb 17 06:43 ads
drwxrwxr-x 2 chris chris   4096 Feb 19 05:59 logs
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris  60928 Feb 14 21:42 savegame-b.dv
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris  61760 Feb 14 21:37 savegame-b.dvb
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris 188080 Feb 18 21:33 savegame-c.dv
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris 185600 Feb 18 21:21 savegame-c.dvb
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris   5872 Feb 16 18:54 savegame-d.dvb
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris    912 Feb 14 18:54 savegame.dv
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris    832 Feb 14 16:33 savegame.dvb
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris   5792 Feb 17 18:57 savegame-f.dvb
-rw-rw-r-- 1 chris chris   1187 Feb 19 05:59 settings.cfg

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to be explicit, 0.606.1 has the same freezing behavior as 0.604.0

jagged falcon Feb 19, 2023, 12:29 PM

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hm, it still ends in

Loading resource: res://enceladus/VideoPlayer.tscn.converted.res
Loading resource: res://enceladus/VideoLoop.gdc
Loading resource: res://enceladus/ENN/MineralPriceLabelTool.gdc
Loading resource: res://enceladus/ENN/enn-1.ogv

🤔

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please remove that ads directory, it cuts content from your game

winged thunder Feb 19, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Perhaps loading enn-1.ogv works correctly, but the issue happens just after.

Comparing to a healthy run on my other linux machine... What happens between
Loading resource: res://enceladus/ENN/enn-1.ogv
and
Loading resource: res://sfx/thruster.tscn.converted.res (the next line from --verbose from a healthy machine)

jagged falcon Feb 20, 2023, 10:28 AM

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Please check with 0.606.3

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There is a patch included to address your specific problem.

jagged falcon Feb 23, 2023, 7:41 AM

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Is this still affecting you post 0.606.3?

winged thunder Feb 25, 2023, 12:22 AM

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I updated to 607.3 today, issue still exists

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📎 failing_607_3.log

jagged falcon Feb 27, 2023, 12:41 PM

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Unfortunately at this point I don't really know how to help you with this.

jagged falcon Feb 28, 2023, 10:05 AM

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I think I just got a second report for this.

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Hopefully this will help to figure this out quickly

jagged falcon Feb 28, 2023, 11:16 AM

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@winged thunder please check if 0.608.2 makes a difference for you

winged thunder Feb 28, 2023, 9:34 PM

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gog is still on 608.1 I'll keep an eye out for the update

jagged falcon Feb 28, 2023, 10:08 PM

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winged thunder gog is still on 608.1 I'll keep an eye out for the update

you can test this with a demo from Steam

winged thunder Mar 5, 2023, 10:11 PM

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Was just able to test with 608.5, issue still exists.

📎 game_output.txt

jagged falcon Mar 6, 2023, 8:05 AM

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well, thiss is going to be a PITA to fix then, since I can't see this first hand, and the iterations are taking us up weeks

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my current hypothesis is that your platforms' ogv player conflicts somehow with the threaded loader the game uses.

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to verify that - please load up the game to the main menu, wait for about a minute (until it stops output stuff on the terminal), and then try to load the save.

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regardless if this succesed or fails, logs from that will be useful

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doubly so should you mark somehow the point where you actually pressed the button in the game output

jagged falcon Mar 7, 2023, 9:34 AM

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please check with v0.609.1

jagged falcon Mar 13, 2023, 8:30 AM

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any change to your situation?

#Game only works if I play the tutorial