Mechanic Brewery Season 6 Contest!

[obsidian nymph]

(i just vibed and voted for my own and one i did art for)

[slow tangle]

north america

[hushed marlin]

Tortuga

[proven coral]

ahhh

[edgy veldt]

Gotta read up on the competition and prepare to take my L lol

[pure yarrow]

we've got a week, stuff's gonna change fast

[tawdry tiger]

Time to show my friends all of the mechs in a big read through together

😎

[slow tangle]

Some native groups also call North America Turtle Island as well , if i remember right

[urban patrol]

Tortuga literally translates to "turtle"

[quick junco]

I know I'm a relative unknown here but I still have some hope for my FMC Wolpertinger. Everyone liked it when I playtested it

[tough chasm]

ill vote for you then

nvm already did

[fading kindle]

same bro, my submission is probably the most cursed thing here and not in the "whacky HORUS paracausality" way but the "what the fuck was this goober thinking when they made this" way

[slow tangle]

yeah, same when it comes to the peppercorn, i know people over in Shell's server really enjoyed seeing me work on it for the months i did

[tough chasm]

it looked badass

[slow tangle]

i know SOME people recognize me, hehe

[pure yarrow]

I had positive responses for the Coyote, but I've never really gotten to put my stuff out before

[edgy veldt]

I’m just joking, though I haven’t actually seen any results or voted myself, I just know my bracket has some with multiple nominations, but honestly just happy to get to read more homebrew stuff

[pure yarrow]

I'll admit to it being nerve racking

[tough chasm]

a friend showed me the peppercorn the other day

thought it was a cool idea

[pure yarrow]

"Yo holy shit, [84] cakes!"

[slow tangle]

:0 whoa!!

🥺

[formal loom]

oh the voting doc is up?

[edgy veldt]

Is it cursed enough to make my GM suffer? Cause then I’ll have to run it LOL

[tough chasm]

uh cardinal if you know em

[pure yarrow]

The peppercorn, I'd actually found a wee bit back! It's great!

[pure yarrow]

Pinned!

[slow tangle]

:0 !!!!!!!

[pure yarrow]

I liked it!

Never used it, but I did enjoy the read

[slow tangle]

tyyy oh that means so much

[obsidian nymph]

(im just happy my baby is doin good for now)

[formal loom]

oh neat. is there a quick place to look at all the compiled links?

[tough chasm]

discord search function

[formal loom]

or is it just go hunt them down in chat

ahh

[tough chasm]

its, not as bad as it seams

[obsidian nymph]

(my baby in first 🥹)

[tough chasm]

i just vote for the ones i know and then the ones that people mention in chat

[fading kindle]

btw i noticed that you can select multiple frames on the google doc but i take it we're only allowed to vote for one?

[formal loom]

I guess I could search for @ dragonkidd instead to only show submissions

[tough chasm]

you can vote multipul

[obsidian nymph]

(vote multiple!)

[hazy flare]

Wait no, stop! Don’t give him ideas

[slow tangle]

" mentions: dragonkid11 in: "Mechanic Brewery Season 6 Contest!" has: link " something like this?

[urban patrol]

I can't wait to actually make an LCP so I can start testing my mech for the module I'm working on

[slow tangle]

OH this might not cover the lcp havers

[edgy veldt]

It’s even a Horus mech, Ford, you’re doomed

[formal loom]

running a session so it will take us a while to sit down and look over things, we only ever remember reading a few

[slow tangle]

" mentions: dragonkid11 in: "Mechanic Brewery Season 6 Contest!" has: link has:file " i think should bring up MOST of them - brings up 77 results?

something like this

there might be a couple that dont properly mention dragonkid, but then that will get you down to just a few

[obsidian nymph]

(thats an arty frame yes?)

[tough chasm]

striker arty

[obsidian nymph]

(coooll)

[formal loom]

i suppose i could probably compile the links together myself actually when I finish session

[tough chasm]

hole puncher

[obsidian nymph]

(i made a similar thing with my kamehameha)

[tough chasm]

i think i voted for that one

i love striker arties

[obsidian nymph]

(speaking of i voted for fitzgerald iirc :3)

[bitter turret]

while excitement is understandable if your frame is in the lead, it doesn't feel great to be posting it for the people who aren't

probably a good idea to keep that in mind going forward

[tough chasm]

thats a good point actually

mb

[obsidian nymph]

(yeahhhh fair)

[tough chasm]

to be fair, voting has just started

anything can happen

[slow tangle]

it also can cause sways in voting subconciously
-# (not saying anyone is doing it maliciously, i think everyone is super excited hehe)

[obsidian nymph]

(that too, i think once people look at mechs and not names mine will fall)

[bitter turret]

indeed so

[sour smelt]

It just in general ends up kinda finnicky, just keep it to yourself for now even if it's the first hour or so

[tough chasm]

nah, your just had my favorite mechanics of the set

[alpine moth]

damn, I hope people start looking at the mechs. I was basically a glorified spellchecker, but I'm stupid fucking proud of what @tribal radish has made

Artistically, mechanically, lore-wise, all of it

The Richard has some of my favorite lore blurbs of anything

Like, "I need to see if J.K. Simmons has a Cameo or something so I can get him to read the Frame blurb and the 6GRC description"

[runic raft]

I'm not sure how possible this is but I definitely think the poll should have a link to all the LCPs

Or at least a convenient way to view them

[obsidian nymph]

(mine doesnt have an lcp and ive heard some dont have documents)

[tough chasm]

writing lore blurbs is so hard

[alpine moth]

you might just have to search them up in here

[tough chasm]

had someone go through and tell me that half of mine were mispelled and not tonally appropriate

[slow tangle]

im excited to see what people think of my silly little guy - the RPC Peppercorn is the Nelson/Everest/face of the provider and so im quite proud of it, and i think its flavor text does a lot to tell people what the RPC is without TELLING you what it is

[alpine moth]

I agree, which is why my man Logez has some fuckin sauce. He needs a bit of help grammatically and stylistically, but who doesn't?

[tough chasm]

most still arent

real authors have NO CLUE how to spell

[slow tangle]

my spouse did a spell and grammar check for my lore writing hehe

[fading kindle]

woa some of these mechs are really cool :0

[tough chasm]

love wins

at syntax

[slow tangle]

it sure does @blazing chasm 🥰

[alpine moth]

It's a damn shame I couldn't post the SW//MG Merlin, the lore blurbs only really work in Comp/Con but holy fuck is it funny.

[tough chasm]

post em now i wanna see

[alpine moth]

for reference:

[tough chasm]

thats fucking hilarious

i love making funny entries but

i think you got me beat

[south moth]

woe, curse of ra leetspeak

[alpine moth]

and this is why we need more eyes on Puddlestompers

more people need to appreciate this

\

[hushed marlin]

Man I think I have to go read Fitzgerald, that thing is dominating

[cedar path]

fitzgerald goes hard

[tough chasm]

lemme know your thoughts

[cedar path]

one of my favorite designs in all of the sixth voice tbh

[frozen vine]

Playtesting the Cochise has been a blast

[tough chasm]

i saw you say a positive thing about the sixth voice like a week ago and it made my day

also what the fuck is a gashmoingus

[frozen vine]

Fitzgerald slaps but I have a soft spot for the Sluagh

[cedar path]

gashmoingus

[frozen vine]

It’s beautiful

[hushed marlin]

Ok the flavor text is already selling me holy shit

[cedar path]

slaugh is also cool, makes me think of coleslaw

[tough chasm]

pishly is a god amongst men

you see the primrose?

[frozen vine]

I don’t think I have

[frozen vine]

OOOOOO

[alpine moth]

very pink

[frozen vine]

I 💜 Pishly’s art

[cedar path]

oh shit i haven't seen that one yet

[alpine moth]

Pink, purple, and magenta seem to be real popular

[cedar path]

god pishly is goated

[tough chasm]

the vast majority of my creative direction was just, pink please

[tough chasm]

i love this art

[autumn ibex]

We posting art I see
-# still not done but, you know, i got something at least

[hushed marlin]

I've got a few pishly works and yeah they are incredible

[alpine moth]

It's the Solomon! Go check it out!

[tough chasm]

its isnt OFFICALLY out yet

[tough chasm]

PEAK

[tough chasm]

what did you get?

[alpine moth]

The Solomon is perhaps my favorite of SW//MG!

[tough chasm]

didnt know you knew him

[cedar path]

god i should've read some of these mechs as they were posted

reading through all of these is gonna take hours

[alpine moth]

i mean, I've got a couple good places to start

[frozen vine]

Yeah same

I read a few and then glanced away and then 20 more showed up and I was like… yeah, no

[unkempt hollow]

I really appreciate that so many people are willing to sit down and read through at least some of them

[frozen vine]

“That’s a later Nara problem” and now later Nara is pissed

[alpine moth]

Bro is stanced the fuck up

[cedar path]

i think i'd feel bad if i voted without giving everything a long hard look

[frozen vine]

Hubba hubba

[hushed marlin]

RKF Aster, HA Black Prince (vote!), IPS-N Jani Beg, SSC Splendour

[frozen vine]

GOD THEYRE SO GOOD

[cedar path]

jani beg is still the most evil looking mech i've ever seen

[alpine moth]

oh damn I know why one of ours is lagging, there ain't no art for it!

[tough chasm]

oh my god i saw the lsat one of those

[obsidian nymph]

(loving the diva that is #4)

[tough chasm]

howd youd get him for a commission

[autumn ibex]

maybe I can finish my art before voting is done lmao and then I can get like 2 more votes

[tough chasm]

i had to literally force him to take my money

[hushed marlin]

Asked politely and it was free despite my pleas

[tough chasm]

yeah,,,

yeah.

[hushed marlin]

Man remade Aster completely on a whim, too

[frozen vine]

I reached out to him after I messaged you Bel and he also offered to do one free for me once he had time - like no please let me support you I’m begging

[cedar path]

from what i've heard getting a commission from pishly is real tough if you don't know him

[frozen vine]

He’s a very busy person for sure

[hushed marlin]

This was the original

[alpine moth]

Nope I was wrong there is art

Here it is again because the Aldrin and Armstrong fuckin rule

Aldrin on the left and Armstrong on the right

[tough chasm]

that was still in his mouse days wasnt it

[hushed marlin]

Yup

[alpine moth]

Also! If you load these guys up on Comp/Con, the other is greyed out like a Character Select screen!

[tough chasm]

hell i think fitz was too

[hushed marlin]

Art's at least 2 years old at this point

[cedar path]

motherfucker drew the fitzgerald with a mouse????

man what the hell

[tough chasm]

he drew like, 70% of the sixth voice with a mouse

in windows paint 3d

which im pretty sure is defuct now

[south moth]

Pishly is a being of immense power

[cedar path]

does he do cave paintings on the side or something

[tough chasm]

hes like, an engineering student i think

and employed

[cedar path]

ive heard studying engineering like, saps your soul out of you rapidly

[tough chasm]

thats what the new england clam chowder is for

too bad hes alergic to shellfish

[cedar path]

ive seen before and after photos of like, 4 years engineering school and they always look like they just walked barefoot through hell

[inner rampart]

Hello, I know the chat may buried but can I get the link for the voting again 😢 😭 😿

[alpine moth]

It’s pinned

[pure yarrow]

It's pinned!

[autumn ibex]

its pinned now

[inner rampart]

Thank you 😢 😭 😿

[pure yarrow]

slowly raises hand, writing a lab report on a different monitor

Hi, hi, engineering student here. Yep.

[tough chasm]

ill pray for you

not religous but

i think you may need it anyway

[pure yarrow]

I'll take whatever I can get these days, yeah

[autumn ibex]

my problem now is that im bad at drawing robots, so im kinda just winging it

[tough chasm]

looks fucking sick

is that minecraft enchanting table

[autumn ibex]

yes

[tough chasm]

what does it say

[manic marsh]

That looks rad

I'm enjoying just seeing all the different stuff people've come up with

[autumn ibex]

PIXEL lmao

PIXEL 0

[frozen vine]

Beats not being able to draw at all

[cedar path]

slap him on his bald ass head and it will make a gong sound

[autumn ibex]

Menace wants to get smote

[cedar path]

bald

its like that one scene in the spongebob movie

[autumn ibex]

I am also somewhat trying to imitate the Lancer style, albiet without antialiasing

so I'm kinda

making it work

[uncut cosmos]

this is why we kitbash with retrograde

[cedar path]

jokes aside it looks quite nice

[tough chasm]

the lancer style is so hard

[uncut cosmos]

and pray it vaguely looks good

[fallen prism]

Fingers crossed my submission gets in, but there's such a torrent of entries that I'm admittedly quite nervous the Artemisia won't get enough support lol

[autumn ibex]

like the Deva lol

[frozen vine]

Nah I can’t even do that. Had Fugo do it for me (they’re awesome btw, have only ever been a pleasure to talk to)

[cedar path]

fugo is cool

[uncut cosmos]

I've got a few lying around myself but yee can be fiddly to get exactly what you're looking for (particularly if you're f2p like me)

[proud matrix]

be proud of Artemisia, it's fuckin bangin!

[fallen prism]

ty Xiya

[manic marsh]

Oh, I love the arms on the first one there

[uncut cosmos]

Thanks thats the Crassus gilgamesh alt I submitted

[slow tangle]

oh posting art?

yea - the art i did of peppercorn was mostly sketch art i did on paper, but i wanted to touch it up and clean it up in a way that felt like it was pulled from someone's notes or a magezine or something

[sour meadow]

is there a google sheet with all the frames and their documents or whatnot for easy reading?

[proud matrix]

I knowit's been said by others, but like genuinely genuinely there are so many amazing frames and cool fucking ideas

[proud matrix]

unironically I've jsut been using the search function in discord

[urban patrol]

I dn't think so, but you can probably just Ctrl+F the mech name

[hushed marlin]

Not currently but apparently jho has one?

[frozen vine]

Like mine which everyone should vote for /j

[tough chasm]

woah, thats just like mine, which everyone should vote for

[frozen vine]

No way!

[pure yarrow]

It's pulling well, and I'm certain a frame as well-made as it is will get a chance in the sun!

[tough chasm]

No way!

[south moth]

honestly I might do something like this when I start making art for my stuff. Inspiring stuff.

[pure yarrow]

Actively pulling for you!

[hushed marlin]

And mine, which- [I am promptly dragged offstage]

[frozen vine]

For real though, best of luck everyone

[manic marsh]

I didn't submit anything myself(got some ideas but nothing concrete enough to put together yet), definitely inspiring me to want to do more though

[frozen vine]

This friendly lil competition has exposed me to so many cool homebrews that I don’t think I would’ve seen otherwise. Shit’s awesome

[alpine moth]

YOU GUYS HAVEN’T EVEN SEEN THE TALENTS AND CORE BONUSES—

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-show-kermit-the-frog-kermit-hook-gif-26475607

[cedar path]

theres some good resources pinned in #homebrew-design if you want to give it a shot

[manic marsh]

Reading over the Artemisia now, I love the hijack rounds
(Don't have a lot of feedback or anything but that bit stood out to me)

[manic marsh]

Thank!

[autumn ibex]

Paratech do indeed be a full manufacturer with 7 frames, 6 core bonuses, 5 NPCs (+2 templates) and uh

idk something else lol

but we arent doing full LCP reviews

[cedar path]

yeah no mechanic brewery 7 is when he'll have people submit whole manufacturers

[hushed marlin]

Mech brewery season 8 talents only

[sour smelt]

friend shape

[autumn ibex]

lmao maybe by then Paratech will be fully finished

[alpine moth]

Sage-Wisemann Munitions Grant and Safety Obstruction-Solutions are also full manufacturers.

[inner rampart]

Im praying the ssc empress is getting their flowers bro

The self invade is my only wish for lancer

[proud matrix]

wait, he might be cookin

[alpine moth]

None of you are prepared for Autocon

Hell, I might not be prepared for Autocon…

[unkempt hollow]

Genuinely shocked that the frame I submitted got as many early votes as it did

[obsidian nymph]

(reading its sum up it sounds cool!)

[unkempt hollow]

I'm terrified to look at the poll right now 😅

[unkempt hollow]

I appreciate that. I don't expect to win any popularity contests, I just want to get my stuff out there

[manic marsh]

Gotta love stuff that plays with heat like that

[obsidian nymph]

(mine fucks with heat a lil too :3)

[limpid flint]

Block 1 is. Something I guess.

[obsidian nymph]

(yeahhhhh isnt the fitzgerald a previously like semi-known mech?)

[limpid flint]

(I have no idea.)

[quick junco]

Finally finished voting. Phew!

I'm genuinely happy to see so many people put their work out there. It's been a pleasure to read it all!

[obsidian nymph]

(im writing out fluff for mine right now and i forgot i named one of the systems 'quake charges' and its just a reference to video game stuff)

[edgy veldt]

How long did it take for reference?

[tough chasm]

someone made a post about it on reddit a little while ago

[obsidian nymph]

(mmmmm)

(i feel like ive seen it before)

[tough chasm]

making posts on reddit and tumblr does help

i would recomended it for anyone

[hushed marlin]

Yeah Fitz and BP are sitting top of the list currently, although quite a few frames are about to break 20 votes as well

[alpine moth]

That’s how we got some of the folks in the Tri-M thread. One person helped correct a pretty major oversight

[hushed marlin]

Block 6 has a dead tie at 19

[manic marsh]

Oh, the Orion Protocol is rad.

[obsidian nymph]

(sekhmet! 2!!)

[hushed marlin]

And Jötunn broke it at 20 just now, making it the third to reach 20 votes

[manic marsh]

As a fan of Sekhmet 1 I gotta give appreciation to the sequel

[obsidian nymph]

(several others are about to as well)

[tough chasm]

some of these are close

really close

im also REALLY suprised Kai isnt sweeping

[hushed marlin]

Me too!!!

[uncut cosmos]

We got another 7 days i wouldnt start calling anything now

[hushed marlin]

I half expected to get buried so I am very pleasantly surprised

[autumn ibex]

its hard to get burried when everything is a list

[sour meadow]

i do wish they all had links because some of them even Discord isnt allowing me to find

[autumn ibex]

apparently someone has all the links compiled but uh

[manic marsh]

Friend of mine made the HA Chamber, I helped a bit with some initial proofreading there. Definitely check that one out(don't wanna shill too hard but I do wanna give him the shout-out, told him about the contest and woke up the next day to him having cooked up a full license).

[autumn ibex]

yeah lol

[obsidian nymph]

(shill harder!! ⚡)

[pure yarrow]

(while I'm online, if anyone wants the TRIC Coyote's doc, just feel free to ping me for the .pdf!)

[quick junco]

Slightly over an hour

[alpine moth]

If anybody wants to look further into Puddlestomper’s you can find us in the official Comp/Con directory!

[cedar path]

could you link me your Kamehameha? i can't seem to find it

[obsidian nymph]

.

[sour meadow]

yeah about what i expected

[obsidian nymph]

(im so sorry ariana you deserved better for the grisper)

[sour meadow]

eh

im a lil upset but its not that big of a deal

[obsidian nymph]

(still! sunzi that grisps through portals is really cool)

(yes im gassing you up intentionally so people vote for it)

(i am not biased in any way)

[sour meadow]

lmao thanks rachel

[cedar path]

it is quite neat, i'm going to vote for it once i get to that part

[sour meadow]

i do think that the sheer density of submissions both is a benefit and a curse, cuz theres so much to read through

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11cC1hU3CICTEoz1SLv_SAsC2CJhb1UtEZHy2PyKfZns/edit?usp=sharing

this is the noddi for reference

The Grisper

[cedar path]

the grumbly grabber

[obsidian nymph]

(for the record i made the art lmao)

[sour meadow]

yee

[quick junco]

The FMC Wolpertinger has gotten any level of attention at all, so I've gotten what I set out to accomplish

[sour meadow]

its very good

i am very happy Pixel's Fool is getting attention though

[manic marsh]

Having someone organize where to find all this stuff in a list or spreadsheet or something might not be a bad idea for the future(though it's not necessarily easy to set that up either)

[unkempt hollow]

Pixel's stuff is kickass

[manic marsh]

"You can teleport while grappling"
I'm sold

[sour meadow]

the entire intent of the noddi is to kidnap people

[hushed marlin]

Battle of the century

[unkempt hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/why-must-you-hurt-me-this-way-big-gif-19114472

[obsidian nymph]

(we're up to 7 people with 20+ votes)

[sour meadow]

its second trait is also a nerfed version of its original form

which was any teleport in Range 50

[obsidian nymph]

(if theres a tie between the two i hope they both make it in it would be based)

[sour meadow]

and as funny as it was to cross the entire goddamn map when a Mirage teleports, it was so not balanced

[tough chasm]

whats really funny is that jyva isnt even here to see it

i had to tell him

[obsidian nymph]

(lmao)

[tawny orbit]

is jhos overview doc available anywhere yet

[sour meadow]

also i cant fuckin find the document with Kai Taves Chimera

[tawny orbit]

Kinda dont want to scroll

[manic marsh]

I get why that needed to be balanced, but I respect the energy of the mapwide "you turn around and it's behind you" energy

[unkempt hollow]

It's in Field Guide to Suldan, it's a Hydra alt frame iirc

[hushed marlin]

The Kaimera
#1466615504301981903 message

[halcyon mango]

Nope

[tawny orbit]

darn

I started my own, but stopped, then jho said they were working on it so I didnt continue

I'm only up to like 30 submissions

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zxFb1UOuskeZ5poBN2vkB4Lx9b8LBlmaZQQTkcoW6z4/edit?usp=sharing
Here's part of the list, hopefully jho gets the full one out soon

[manic marsh]

Seeing it numbered like this, that's a lot of mechs

[tawny orbit]

What was the final tally? Like 90?

[obsidian nymph]

(84)

[tawny orbit]

Actually, I'll open up the doc to editing

If people wanna continue the list - community effort and all that

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zxFb1UOuskeZ5poBN2vkB4Lx9b8LBlmaZQQTkcoW6z4/edit?usp=sharing

Editable version ^

I was going in chronological submission order, but it doesnt matter as long as its somewhat complete

[sour meadow]

im gonna let yall do this, i dont wanna break anything

[obsidian nymph]

(got ya)

[sour meadow]

<33

Appreciated yall

[alpine moth]

yeah there's quite a lot to comb through, y'all got this

if you could also link the art from the Armstrong and Aldrin, since they're a separate post, that'd be nice

[tough chasm]

holy moly, block 14 is contentious

[obsidian nymph]

(look at block 12)

[tough chasm]

holy moly

yeah

[obsidian nymph]

(i vote for the shengmu its cool i like gms frames)

[fading kindle]

wait people are actually voting for the Jinn?

[obsidian nymph]

(looks like it)

[fading kindle]

i thought this thing was gonna get like 3 votes 😭

[obsidian nymph]

(fluff text adventures)

[fading kindle]

im glad to see that my horrific creation is doing well

[obsidian nymph]

(i thought ours was gonna flop)

[fading kindle]

which one was that again?

[slow tangle]

guys didnt we say before we shouldnt post the results so far?

how it can make people feel bad potentially and might also sway votes subconciously?

[obsidian nymph]

(fair)

[obsidian nymph]

(kamehameha)

[fading kindle]

oh wait that was one i couldnt find any google docs or lcps for

[obsidian nymph]

(thats so weird cus i posted one)

(i think its cus i didnt include the name in the message)

[fading kindle]

that might be it cos im searching for the frames by name

[obsidian nymph]

.

[fading kindle]

fire frame

[slow tangle]

@solemn iron @celest bloom any chance we could get this pinned?

[fading kindle]

also when i saw this i immedietly thought of the metal pipe falling sound

[manic marsh]

hits you with a pipe oh im sorry
hits you with a pipe sorrgy accident

[fading kindle]

i just realised that if you stun someone, you can mark their space as the kill zone and if they fail their save they instantly take 3d6 + 4 AP kenetic damage lmao

[tough chasm]

orbital strike

[bitter turret]

it's an agi save, if you stun them it auto-fails

[fading kindle]

its just some guy sitting in a mech in space with a buncha metal pipes throwing them down

[fading kindle]

i meant the save to not be stunned, unless im remembering the condition incorrectly (which is very possible cos im still pretty new to the system :P)

[bitter turret]

ah

[fading kindle]

regardless i'd kill to see somebody pull that off in an actual game, and they'd better have that soundboard ready if they do

[slow tangle]

hey genuine question - is there a reason the Aquarius is in 2 brackets?

[hushed marlin]

We've got the first frame to get to 30 votes

Three guesses on which one

[unkempt hollow]

Fitzgerald?

[bitter turret]

can you not

[fading kindle]

btw i can change my answers later right?

[cedar path]

someone submitted an older version, i submitted the newest version

[hushed marlin]

Yes, you can

[fading kindle]

GOOD, its 3am and im waaaayyyyy too tired to be reading through these frames rn

[slow tangle]

odd that that went through anyway - id think a newer version would superceed any submissions of an older one

the aquarius v2 is quite cool, i say as someone in the saame bracket

[cedar path]

its because they don't work quite the same. same core idea of making poker hands, different executions

[slow tangle]

fair! i just think you know, sometimems a devs vision changes lol

[cedar path]

also i think the only thing the two have in common license wise is the jimbo class nhp

[obsidian nymph]

(two more fluff texts to write)

(just finished the quake charges)

(unfortunately for my poor creative sensors one of those is an NHP)

[tough chasm]

writing is so hard

[obsidian nymph]

(yep)

(why past me, why choose to do an nhp for your first ever full license)

[tough chasm]

yeah , its

hard to write for

the actual lancer compendiums are sooooo hard to replicate

i didnt even really try after a point

[obsidian nymph]

(real)

[cedar path]

yeah lancer flavor texts have a very specific style that i struggle to imitate

[sour meadow]

is the intent that thjeres gonna be a video for each bracket?

[tough chasm]

if you go funny enough people dont notice

[slow tangle]

i have a writing style i like to do that reflects both being an anthropologist, my provider being a nonprofit founded by a Clone, a Cyborg, an NHP and a [Wallflower Spoilers], my provider texts being heavily focused on the "little guys" and indivudual experiences, and it being explicitly anti fascist in theme/story

so i dont have to perfectly mimic the sttyle , im okay being stand out in it as long as its got a good flavor and feel

[tough chasm]

yeah, thats

based

[slow tangle]

im such a big fan of this "leftist forum discourse" flavor text i cooked up for one of the LL3 weapons of the Peppercorn

[south moth]

I'm the odd man out in that I love doing lore blurbs

[slow tangle]

which was also a fun way of telling players how its pronounced

[south moth]

it's just very hard to solidify the lore to begin with

[slow tangle]

oh i also do - i just have such a Vibe

[obsidian nymph]

(im still happy with this lil part that i added to the kame)

[manic marsh]

Gotta hit it with the "only mention the consequences of misusing it, or specific directions against how to use it and no other details"

[cedar path]

i just know horus has infighting the likes of which a normal person couldn't even comprehend

[obsidian nymph]

(dear god)

[slow tangle]

because the same license, the peppercorn, has THIS in it in its LL1

so i love the duality of the anti fascist non profit flavor text i can pull off here

[proud matrix]

Lore blurbs can be so damn fun to do especially when you lock in with what you're doin

People have made really fuckin banger blurbs just in general

[north quartz]

I'd suggest that while the lore in the base game is very technical, it's worthwhile in homebrew to explore a lot of different ways of getting the lore acoss, especially if if helps provide context to the greater narrative around the frames.

[cedar path]

I really like the flavor that kajowwojak wrote for the galapagos, its very cool. i couldn't have written it half as well

it was fun working with him, i haven't really worked together on any homebrew projects with others much before

[obsidian nymph]

(ok does this cook?)

[north quartz]

Collaboration is indeed a delight.

[cedar path]

yeah you cooked

[slow tangle]

and then we have the "corporate" speak

[obsidian nymph]

('irritant canisters' made my go 🤨)

(good work)

[alpine moth]

This isn't a lore blurb per se, but I do find the Solomon's superheavy to be very humourous

"You may no longer feel pain for the character this scene."

[quick junco]

I think the most cooking I've done on a frame's lore is not on the one I submitted (FMC Wolpertinger), but on the ZTC Cuckoo

[frozen vine]

Same tbh

[alpine moth]

I read it again, god help me

J.K. Simmons! Tim Curry! Basically anyone from the cast of Red Alert 3! One of 'em's gotta read this!

[primal swift]

Yeah, I'm probably not going to win, it seems.

But I tried, and I got my friend to make art which will be in the final book, and that's what matters.

[tribal radish]

I'm glad two of mine seemed to be in a solid second place.

[left bloom]

Going into any of these things actually expecting to win is priming yourself for disappointment, really. If you do get the most votes, that's great, but it's more about the process and getting things out there.

[tribal radish]

-# Hey, maybe the runner ups will be spillover for seasons 7 and 8

[obsidian nymph]

(oh yeah)
(when i submitted this i did not think i was gonna win, no way no how)

[left bloom]

I know I've had 5 sales since this contest started, so, hey, that says something about how it reaches people.

[slow tangle]

Honestly, I don't expect myself to win or nor am I expecting a loss either, but something that was really nice to hear and see is that people were very excited to share around the peppercorn the moment they saw it, and also that people recognized the peppercorn and evidently some people had already shared the peppercorn around and chatted about it before, before I submitted it, like in the past.

Which is really really nice and made me really happy to see. I'm glad people have been enjoying my designwork

[slow tangle]

Ty kai!

[frozen vine]

The peppercorn got my vote for sure

It's generally been a joy to look over what everyone else has made

Even if it's a lot to go through

[limpid flint]

Honestly, my work got picked, and that's a win for me.

[frozen vine]

Hell yeah

[left bloom]

Yeah, there's always a warm fuzzy feeling you get when it turns out, oh, actually people have read my stuff and maybe actually like it.

[primal swift]

Yeah, several other people saw the Melonpan and went, "Aww yiss."

[frozen vine]

I feel like there's ghosts reading my sub lol. Cochise has a fair few votes but I haven't seen anyone talk about it

[left bloom]

Sometimes things just end up that way - especially when there's just so much here. Information overload.

[frozen vine]

True true

[primal swift]

I saw this post that made me think of seeing Kai, DataMoth, and Ru in the submissions /silly

[left bloom]

I don't think I'm as popular as you think I am, haha. But I appreciate the sentiment.

[frozen vine]

"Only the truly divine deny their divinity"

[sour fable]

gave a description for Shuck in the Submissions Doc

"Horror-esque Counter Sniper mech with a built-in Tsundere NHP"

[sour fable]

dialogue from the NHP

[I’m sorry my friend about our first interactions, I hope that.. This could maybe make up for what i did.]

[glacial dust]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LKLJ4vTyu5402wtqEnbS1BW23q8JjYrM6AT7C0hkb_U/edit?usp=drivesdk

[proven coral]

oh thank you

[glacial dust]

Sorry for the delay, just woke up

[gloomy kettle]

I can't believe how well the Archon is doing, but I'm so happy people enjoy my brews enough to vote for it

[hoary sonnet]

looks like the horus jinn was incorrectly categorized. it's an alt frame

[autumn ibex]

Finally finished voting

goddamn there was a lot to look through

[autumn ibex]

well I wish I saw this before I Ctrl F'd 1000 times

lmao

[golden mason]

that's where i'm at too at the moment lmao

lots of reading

i got time to burn at least

[autumn ibex]

My allergies are killing me and I am very sleepy so I think I'm done for now, unless I want to come back and reconsider

but I think I got everything I wanted

A lot of hard choices

and a couple blocks with 2 votes cuz I couldnt choose lool

[glacial dust]

I was asleeeeep 😭

Also damn I'm up against the Flies. RIP me lol.

[tough chasm]

its tied rn so

anyones game

[sour fable]

my ahh against the Kamehameha and Simo

[hoary sonnet]

just finished voting! it was so heartwarming seeing just how creative this community can be. so many of the frames i read were truly inspiring. it's rare we get to see so much homebrew in one place.

huge thanks to anyone who gave one of my frames a vote too! big preesh.

[glacial dust]

The stats are visible and I will be agonizing over them for the entire voting period. 😤

Also just realized I never shared the Bayou art here

It's in the doc, but for visibility I should share in thread

[shut path]

We love predator mech.

[unkempt hollow]

Getting big Killer Croc vibes

[gloomy kettle]

Fucking same lol

At least mine is doing well, but somehow that's making the agonizing worse I think

[jade grove]

I love all these frames, there so much fun. And thanks to people who voted for my silly alt frame, the Empress, I'm happy to know people like it

[golden mason]

yeah i just finished my reading of all 83 of them

lmao

4 hours later, unironically

(admittedly i spent an hour break but)

[gloomy kettle]

I've been going thru the list in piecemeal and updating my vote as I go

Much more manageable that way

[golden mason]

i knew if i didn't do it in one go, i wouldn't

so nah

had to lock in

[gloomy kettle]

Real

[golden mason]

i will say one thing though

that many people in only the first day? amazing

[shut path]

I need to sit down and vote soon...

[shut path]

added the clovis to the chart

Going down the line and reading up on each mech is great tho.

I'm really fuckin' with the Melonpan.

[pulsar oracle]

The Simo is very funny I like it a lot

[urban patrol]

honestly, seeing that my frame got any positive attention, much less this much positive attention, makes me think that getting art for it would actually be worthwhile

[unkempt hollow]

Same

[shut path]

I know a few artists who work for pretty good prices, if you want a recc.

I've got like...10+ artists having contributed to my own upcoming project, so I've got a few on mind.

[uncut cosmos]

If you want to "test" what art might look like/ give people an idea, can always do kitbashing on retrograde

[urban patrol]

Tempting! I am currently still financially recovering from having to take my car to the mechanics

[uncut cosmos]

well. Upshot of retrograde, if you're patient and can use an mspaint equiv, its free

I use mac preview myself

[formal loom]

long process to go through the votes so far

[uncut cosmos]

tho now my image folders is now full of random stuff like random pockets from mechs

[urban patrol]

Yeah, that's fair.

I've seen people talk about Acesprite. If I get the time, I'll definitely consider bashing something!

[unkempt hollow]

Can we update descriptions/art at this stage or would that be disqualifying?

[glacial dust]

I'd err against

[uncut cosmos]

Probably want to check with dragonkid. Might be able to Add art particularly if you got mbe a late comission. But change or remove content probably no

[urban patrol]

Oh, that's a good question to ask.

I'm making this mech for a module I'm working on, so getting art for it would be separate from this contest

[unkempt hollow]

No changes to currently existing things, just adding missing descriptions. All I have fluff-wise is a bunch of notes, and I didn't really have time or the headspace to write anything that met my own personal standards when I transferred things over from my .lcp into a .pdf format

I just want it to be as good and presentable as it can be, I hate feeling like I did a half-ass job

Maybe I'll find the motivation to actually sit down and get some writing done this week

The .lcp has been basically mechanically complete for a few months, I just need to buckle down and write the damn fluff

[marsh cliff]

thank you!!!!

[marsh cliff]

He just a silly little guy.

[shut path]

HA artemisia is neat.

@fallen prism Really enjoying your frame, but, I am curious why it's a full license as opposed to being an alt frame of Iskander? Is it because it couldn't mount the gravity gun, or, something else?

[pulsar oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/dwarf-pirates-caribbean-of-the-gif-19918274

[fallen prism]

It originally was an Iskander alt, but far earlier in its design.

I got a bunch of feedback in #homebrew-design at the time that led me to tone down the frame and in the process it evolved into its own license

[shut path]

aaaah.

[autumn ibex]

The trick is to simply forget anything is happening until the voting period ends lmao

[frozen vine]

Yo @proven coral the HORUS Jinn is a goblin alt frame but its listed outside the alt frame blocks

[proven coral]

yeah it's a bit, too late for that

coughs

[frozen vine]

oof

[proven coral]

I guess it is a Jinn

[frozen vine]

OKAY

[primal swift]

If you like it, you should read the whole PDF. It's got other frames, core bonuses, and specialty licenses.

[shut path]

Maybe after i get through all 16 blocks of submissions.

I'm only on block 5 rn 😭

[primal swift]

Yeah, reading 84 mechanic blocks is... Wow.

[shut path]

thankfully some of these go by quicker than others.

[crisp sundial]

you're reading them all? respect

[shut path]

if someone takes the time to read my mech and consider whether or not to vote for it, everyone else deserves the same treatment.

I'm reading the stuff in the same block as me to, just cos.

[halcyon mango]

I'm going to read it all tomorrow. Ideally somebody will organize it by block

If not, I'll try to remember

It'll be pretty easy. Add block number and order within block, then sort

[glacial dust]

Block 1:
Fitzgerald
Melonpan
Dragoon
Elmo
Ananke
Pierrot

[shut path]

Doin' that rn to the spreadsheet rn since i'm already looking at it.

[glacial dust]

I don't have all the blocks since I literally just started reading

but I had all these in tabs so

[shut path]

there we go.

[glacial dust]

oh I should do that with my sheet too

[shut path]

added block numbers to everything on the spreadsheet and filtered by block so its easier for people to check through.

still missing some people submitting a few entries, but, eeeeh, I've done enough.

man, block 8 is stacked...

[glacial dust]

should be done

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LKLJ4vTyu5402wtqEnbS1BW23q8JjYrM6AT7C0hkb_U/edit?usp=sharing

[shut path]

oooh

[glacial dust]

how the heck did I not mark the empress as an alt the first time around, I remember specifically checking this one...

[halcyon mango]

I know it's terrifying lol

[shut path]

it's the only one I've voted for more than one option on 😅

the flies, bayou and the Krait are all just too good.

[polar hollow]

Oh btw, I don't know if I forgot to note this, but the RKF Grammatophyllum is actually an alt-frame ^^:;;

(in other news, gosh I'm loving what I'm seeing of the Dragoon in Block 1 👀 )

[glacial dust]

damn maybe we do have 16 alts in here

[shut path]

voted for the gramma, fun frame.

[glacial dust]

since apparently I missed 3 so far

[grave badger]

How can I NOT vote for Godzilla vro🙏

I didn't even check the doc I just voted purely off of the name🥀

[hushed marlin]

And Elmo too, rec's 11 trait wonder

[polar hollow]

thank you ❤️

[tough chasm]

I was so sad to see that I was in the same block

[glacial dust]

is... is the cyclops an alt?

there's nothing that says so, but there's no license either...

[shut path]

i think it is, but no idea of what.

gobbo?

[glacial dust]

man I fuck with the Coyote, but it could use some formatting cleanup here and there

[polar hollow]

yeah.... guts feeling would be tempted to say "Alt-Hydra" with the drone focus but yeah

[slow tangle]

The Elmo is so fascinating

I have to sit down and show it to @blazing chasm

[shut path]

It's doing alot all at once.

[slow tangle]

An Elmo and a Peppercorn walk into a bar. The bar has no more space. /J

[shut path]

it's the marvel rivals deadpool of homebrew mechs /j

[hushed marlin]

Truly the dark souls of complexity budget

[slow tangle]

It's strength is in its versatility, I really think it would be extremely hard to actually unlock all of those abilities in one rest cycle

[shut path]

It would be, but, it's not impossible, and with some teamwork, you could get the ones you really want up and running within an encounter unless the GM plays hardball and makes winning the sitrep a challenge.

[south moth]

Kuutusei (the homebrew Elmo's from) is really good in general

[cedar path]

rec is just goated like that

[shut path]

fuuuucccck, the Horus Archon and the Fu in block 10 are both good....

[cedar path]

the archon is honestly one of my favorite homebrew frames like in general

[shut path]

also, putting the diamondback and the diamondback back to back on the same block is too funny.

[shut path]

i've been outta the loop for a good few months, so I'm seeing it for the first time.

[cedar path]

its in hardvac blues. they have a third party forum. whole lotta cool stuff in there i'd like to run

[fallen prism]

Glad to see the SSC Grayling doing well in its block; having played with one in a game for a bit now I can confidently say it's a fun arty frame

[shut path]

almost done, 6 blocks left to go....

[sour fable]

i have feeling Block 9 is basically the Artillery Block

[obsidian nymph]

(wait how many artys are in that block?)

[sour fable]

IPS-N Kamehameha, SYU Simo, LSR Black Shuck

[shut path]

there's a lot of different mechanical attempts to create 'bounces attack off thing' throughout this year. it's honestly really neat seeing the different ways people have tried to tackle it.

[sour fable]

the one Submission i had in mind instead of Black Shuck was Collie

[obsidian nymph]

(heh)

[spark crypt]

I of course will be voting for myself and recognizable names

Shame there’s no description blurb on each frame but that’s a lot of work

[glacial dust]

RIP

[spark crypt]

May the best author win

[limpid flint]

I should make a short description for the Dragoon, since it is my work.

[fading kindle]

just finished reading through all the frames and locked in my votes. These frames are really cool :D

[frail bane]

I'll have to comb through the frames so I can at least submit my votes for block 12

[unique rain]

sorry I didn't make it clear, but the Cyclops is an alt of the balor

[pulsar oracle]

Guilty as charged though I didn't submit it here

[sour smelt]

It'd prolly be good to add that under the role thing like the official alts do as an fyi

so ppl know it retroactively

[unique rain]

good point, will do

[formal loom]

The original submission posts usually have them, but those are understandably hard to go digging through

[tough chasm]

To be fair, most have compendiums

Chances are you are gonna be reading it anyway

[formal loom]

compendiums? Like the lore/flavor text, or a blurb in some larger manufacturer

[tough chasm]

compendium entry, the flavor text

[bitter turret]

I would generally advise voters make a good-faith effort to find the various frames and read them before voting. :^)

[spark crypt]

Due diligence is a good idea

Just make sure you vote for SVI frames also

[slow tangle]

Yeah, people put a lot of work and love into these things, and it honestly also takes a little bit of vulnerability to put our work out there like this

Everyone did great , Even if you didn't win (I still have not had the time to sit down and look at everything yet 😩)

[fallen prism]

Admittedly I am feeling the need to better elaborate on things in the lore blurb on the Artemisia in the future, but for now what's there isn't inaccurate, just very to-the-point

[spark crypt]

I forget people read the flavor blurbs

Ursa Major’s is just “it’s cool”

[autumn ibex]

lmao

I didn't write full-page flavour text for my systems just for fun, you know

[fallen prism]

I do have some funny cursed development lore of the Artemisia though, in a meta sense

Thing started as a modified Ultra Seeder boss in a one-shot

and then I had a brainwave looking at a game with lil bomb crawler units and decided to make it a frame that just did that

[spark crypt]

I couldn’t fit Ursa Major cleanly into a “video game” so I just gave up and made it a train

The Aquarius however.

[primal swift]

I had originally planned to name and style my mechs after SpaceChem bosses, but decided against it. The Baguette, Melonpan, Hardtack, and especially the Challah have some of that DNA.

[fallen prism]

I wish I'd finished the art I started a long time ago for another one of my homebrew frames, the Echo Blue

Would've probably considered entering that one in as well if I'd not gone with the Artemisia

(The Echo Blue being a nasty little half-size Mourning Cloak alt that literally does some fighting game teleport-counter shit when someone tries to hack it)

[slow tangle]

Yeah the flavor text on the peppercorn was very purposefully written in a way that was designed to communicate the vibe and feel of what the RPC is as a organization without directly telling you what the RPC is as an organization

And I do think I do that successfully

[glacial dust]

that's significantly more flavortext than I am willing to read most of the time when browsing a license tbh

[autumn ibex]

Smh my head

[glacial dust]

not to say it's bad, it's probably better than what I have on Bayou

just like, long

[magic void]

I do like the Peppercorn, a lot of work seems like it went into it not breaking anything and being a usable little support guy

[formal loom]

i can't remember too much about the development history for the grayling without going back to crawl through older editions of the document but i vaguely remember concept notes of death's head alt or proto-tagetes number 7 way back in the days before i think wallflower act 1 released,

[shut path]

Lore is hard.
Concise lore is harder.
Interesting lore that is concise is hard as hell.

[formal loom]

looking back into history this was in fact a death's head alt in 2021,

[fallen prism]

I know with the Artemisia I tried my best on its core system fluff to convey the idea of "Watchdog Equivalent That Hates You (maybe)™" for its integrated combat-controller AI

[formal loom]

I am always a fan of machine minds, haha

also looking back, it seems that tthe design history was death's head alt first back in Aug 2021, and then by mid december, the grayling was born (and the sol sonatas have not changed since their first iteration beyond name and flavor text wow

[fallen prism]

The Sol Sonata rifles are honestly kinda perfect as a good value LL3 aux gun

imo

(bias showing but still)

[magic void]

Big fan of the bullfrog, big guy with big hammer

[vast nimbus]

SPACECHEM MENTIONED

[shut path]

The closest thing I have to a machine mind in my catalog is a neural plug interface for the mech that forces you to act like a parent.

[primal swift]

Yep. The Melonpan was originally the Gorgathar, which summoned eldritch tentacles. The name and flavor changed, but most of the mech remained intact.

[shut path]

It totally isnt the inbuilt AI that is altering your neurons.

[primal swift]

I had a vision of a wacky waving tube guy with a sword, and went "Welp, we're doing this now." Plus it's slightly more plausible.

[urban patrol]

You know, I wonder if it's a bad thing that my teleportuga will likely get changed after playtesting...

[frozen vine]

Almost always a good thing

[hushed marlin]

In the context of this event? Yeah it won't be ideal for an explainer video to be out of date like that. However, incorporating playtest data will most certainly improve the quality of the work overall, so as long as no drastic changes are needed it should be a net positive

[glacial dust]

alright voted for everything but alt categories (need to come back to those tomorrow)

peeked at the results, verr sadge my boy is lagging behind in block 8 pretty severely

[urban patrol]

So, there's exactly one change that I'm really on the fence on, and that's its teleporting ram.

At the current, it can teleport to any adjacent space, which can include behind, which is very versatile and avoids the most awkward niches,

But it also means you can get big movement as a result of, say, ramming a Goliath that's 3 spaces away, and then teleporting to an adjacent space on the opposite side.

The core power is definitely unique, I'm just not sure if its... meaningful, if that makes sense?

Being able to control knockback, and ram a bunch of people and terrain definitely will matter

But I do feel like, at its core, the mech will operate mostly the same.

It's designed to get into the thick of things where it gets to use its shotguns, but is not fantastic about getting out of a bunch of targets

[halcyon mango]

Same. I guess crit frames are popular

[glacial dust]

Flies is a full ten ahead of Bayou y'know

-# admittedly, one of those is mine...

[halcyon mango]

My vote was flies and bayou haha

[glacial dust]

same actually lol

[urban patrol]

Anything can change!

Galapagos had a fairly commanding lead when I went to bed, now he's in second place

[glacial dust]

I doubt ya boi is gonna close a 20 vote gap but here's hoping 🤞

[slow tangle]

ty!! yea, the peppercorn has a few months of design in it to be this very interesting mech that does popshots with "on attack/hit/crit" weapons, while also supplementing non-attack abilities into its movepool , a supportive infantryman that can hop around, bring help to allies or suffering to foes, and fire off a shot

[glacial dust]

As an aside

The Kamehameha is honestly fire

Big fan of that one

[urban patrol]

Even if I don't make it out of round 1 of voting

I feel much more comfortable about the Galapagos being put into a module

[polar hollow]

Grammatophyllum in my case is also in second place of it's block. Unsure if I can reach first place in anyway but here's hoping I guess ^^;

[glacial dust]

It's interesting to see how some of the brackets just seem to have more engagement than others at first it seems like it's on a downward trend from the first block on, but that it spikes back up and varies a decent bit from there. The current most voted block is actually block 10, with the Frederick, Archon, Fu, and both Diamondbacks.

[shut path]

the choice between archon and fu was really tough, to the point I just went with both.

I think the Fu is the more interesting frame, but the archon is one of the best executed in the whole competition rn.

Some blocks are easier to vote on than others, but, tbh, it has normally been a choice of like...2 frames, or I note one I really like over the others, with the exception of block 8, which is the most stacked of the competition.

I'm invested in the Bayou, I think flies is well executed, and krait really speaks to me.

[tough chasm]

that block is really fucking tough

that was probably the hardest one

[shut path]

it's the only one I put down three votes for, although, I may revise that once I'm done with blocks 15 and 16.

the black prince goes so hard....

[tough chasm]

black prince is really cool

i woulda hated to be put in some of those blocks

[shut path]

I don't mind being in block 6.
It'd have been funnier if I was in the same block as the Caeser, since it'd be a battle of drone mechs, but butting heads with stuff like the jotunn ain't something bad, and wouldn't mind losing to.

(I've not seen the results fyi, so idk who's in the lead, no one spoil me.)

[jade prism]

anyone hav the link to the voting google doc form because i can't find it lmao

[hushed marlin]

Pinned

[shut path]

finally reached the Basilica

A mech throwing its pilot at opponents to make them easier to kill is peak comedy.

[jade prism]

oh my god that fucks

[slow tangle]

Reminder for everyone who hasn't voted yet that you can vote for multiple in a bracket

[sour smelt]

fuck concise lore, plant a meme into it

(this is a joke concise lore is very nice to have QvQ)

[formal loom]

Can we stop live discussing the voting results in realtime, I don't really think its healthy for anyone, and im not really sure what impact that sort of thing might have on actual voting

[left bloom]

Concise mechanics are also hard. 😔

I keep going "surely this concept is simple!" 6 sentences later "Oh god."

Turns out simple concepts often have tons of edge cases you need to cover, haha.

[sour smelt]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah tell me about it. It's part of why initially one of the other systems on Krait mentioned not breaking protocols

[south moth]

this is so real.
If I was good at memery I would post one of those "tru..." images

[sour smelt]

it's also why the doc with the manufacturer has an FAQ cuz by the nine lancer's specific wording can confuse people at times

[shut path]

the Clovis took a lot of cutting down to get to where it currently is, and it's still a bit of a mouthful of a mech.

[left bloom]

Spelling out things that're theoretically intuitive into mechanics is a really great exercise in learning why things being intuitive isn't always helpful, haha.

[shut path]

the horse drone is honestly in need of a re-write, it's so much text for something really simple...

[left bloom]

"Oh, I totally know what you're getting at! But how does that work?"

[shut path]

amen.

[sour smelt]

"Oh hey cool system! So how does this interact with this other thing you've never thought of since you never interacted with that playstyle?"

[left bloom]

I think the longest block of text I've ever had to write for a simple ability was figuring out how to turn "Your frame is hardlight and turns on or off around you when you mount or dismount" into a trait. There were so many things I had to consider with how that actually had to be represented mechanically.

[slow tangle]

Yeah like multiple people have asked this over the course of like the past day or so and I feel like we keep getting people agreeing with that request and then that request keeps getting ignored

If you want to discuss the current voting results why not just take it to DM's. I'll be the first to admit I've asked if someone can show me what the current block 14 looks like - but I specifically asked them to show me in DMs.

Talking about the numbers is going to mess with stuff, both how people feel and how people vote.

[shut path]

sounds like Ru's Arthur mech in some regards, although that was going for something a lil different.

[left bloom]

I'll note if you're interested in results, you can check them by going back to the form.

[shut path]

might be worth pinning it, since it'll get lost in the metaphorical sauce.

[left bloom]

(You can also edit votes if need be, such as if you didn't register you could vote for more than 1 frame and want to change that.)

[slow tangle]

I haven't had the chance to actually do the form yet because I haven't had the chance to go through 80 something mechs

I have chronic fatigue and work and other things going on 😩😩

[left bloom]

Ah, gotcha.

Though, In theory you could just vote in one block and then go back to edit as you go through.

Since you're not forced to fill out stuff in each block to submit.

[sour smelt]

Not gonna lie I find it odd to be looking at Krait in the doc, looking at Krait in the submission and remembering this is a wibbly wobbly journey that will soon be 3 years long

how in the hell has it been that long already, like whut

[left bloom]

That's just how progress is, haha.

[sour smelt]

Guess so. Only took 3 years, 2 reworks and like 5 different scrapped systems/weapons.

[shut path]

ticking away at a project, watching the efforts accumulate, is part of the fun tbh.

[gloomy kettle]

thats what I've been doing, and its definitely spared me a headache

currently up to block 12!

[left bloom]

On the other had, I definitely looked back at the end of Iridia and went "...if I knew I would be doing that much scope creep by the end of this, I never would have started", haha.

Know your scale and try to stick to it. 😛

[sour smelt]

Yeah Iridia has sooooo much stuff, part of why I still haven't gotten around reading the whole thing

The couple of frames I did read were neat tho, like the self-Lock On Defender

[shut path]

see, psyclopean time has been the exact opposite.
It was supposed to be 15 frames, none of which were alts, 10 solar systems, an entire pilot rp system as an alt to bonds, etc.

I've done nothing but cut down the scope as time has gone by, to the point I'd have had the whole thing finished by next week if my laptop wasn't stolen, causing me to lose 4 months of work.

[left bloom]

Yeeeeah. Advice for prospective homebrewers: Working on too much stuff is how you get it so people get overwhelmed looking at your things and don't actually give you feedback on any of it. 😛

[glacial dust]

DMs with whom?

[left bloom]

Posting one thing you actually want eyes on is how you actually get feedback - don't post a whole document, haha.

[shut path]

I routinely have Iridia on my list of '3rd party content I allow' for campaigns, cos so many frames in it are so good 😅

having the Nemesis in my shadow wolf campaign has been a blast, really fills a niche in the group that needed plugging.

[slow tangle]

A couple people, I don't want to bother anyone more than like once

Think I asked like two people total

[glacial dust]

Like I don't mind not discussing it having seen it be requested but like

[left bloom]

Oh, that's good to hear. I'm always glad to hear both good and bad feedback about things if you end up wanting to share in the Iridia thread.

It's hard to know what works (or doesn't) if nobody tells you. 😛

[glacial dust]

"why not take it to DMs" is a bad argument because it's discussion of a topic in the topical channel

[slow tangle]

Sorry babe I might have confused which aspect of like DMs you were asking abou- yea ok oops

I DID NOT SAY BABE VOICE TO TEXT STOP

[sour smelt]

LMAOOOOO

PROXY BABES SOMEONE LIVE, ASKED TO LEAVE THREAD

[slow tangle]

NEW YORK ACCENT AND LISP BETRAYED ME

[glacial dust]

I'm flattered but taken lol

[slow tangle]

i am also taken

[shut path]

Fair!
I can't think of much rn, but, if I note anything I'll let you know.
On the GM side of things, weaponmaster remains my favourite template, but, I'll gush about it in the appropriate thread.

[slow tangle]

No you're probably right, I just couldn't think of a better alternative to offer haha

[left bloom]

(Just knowing what frames/licenses people take in the first place is honestly helpful feedback, haha.)

[glacial dust]

Tbh this is what you normally make a thread for

[left bloom]

"Here's the stuff people think is cool!"

[glacial dust]

But we're already in a thread

I don't think discord supports threadception

[sour smelt]

It does not, as funny as that would be

[hushed marlin]

Just spoiler it?

[tawdry tiger]

Oh wow, I wasn’t expecting me and my friend’s Nosoi to do as well as it did…

Huh, that’s neat.

[glacial dust]

As an aside Mouse

You were right, 16 alts

I missed a few...

[hushed marlin]

YES, MY MOST MEANINGLESS VICTORY YET

[tawdry tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-club-penguin-dance-gif-18030942

[slow tangle]

omg i didnt even see the fool was submitted @ @autumn ibex , nice

funnnnnn

and the jackelope noooo not those 2 being in the same bracket i love both of those 😭 - i havent even gotten to look at the others in that bracket and its already feeling stacked @vast nimbus cooked with jackelope

[tawdry tiger]

The jacakalope is indeed cool.

[autumn ibex]

you can vote for multiple things

so you can double up

[slow tangle]

i know!!!

but it feels like

"how can you pit 2 bad bitches against each other" BUT SO MANY OF THESE BRACKETS FEEL THAT WAY LOL

cant we just let them all win /j

[pure yarrow]

The Coyote: My ill-formatted, yet somehow favorite child I haven't let out of the mines in over a year

Me, that same year later: OH RIGHT YOU EXIST, GETTEM

[polar hollow]

Coyote definitely got my eye 👀

also damn what I wouldn't do to see my giant gilded trashson Grammatophyllum featured.

This said I have to admit I really liked the Dragoon, Rozhestvensky and Cyclops

[magic void]

Is? Grammatophyllum a barb alt?

[polar hollow]

Tortuga actually!

[magic void]

Ok that makes a little more sense

I was looking at it going "Ok its got Colossus and Slow... but, I have no idea what this thing wants to take from the Barb license"

[polar hollow]

It was heavily inspired by Goliath NPCs, with Hyperdense Armor being the biggest piece of license gear which led me to decide on the Tortuga license as the closest thing to Siege Armor.

[pure yarrow]

The plan is simple: knife! And if that don't work...
Use more knife

[magic void]

Tort makes sense though for those reasons, plus the shotgun and the Tortuga's famous Hacker Statline

[polar hollow]

yup

[pure yarrow]

the 84 frame swarm, DragonKid is now busy for the next...
checks notes
7 years, assuming a video per month

[hushed marlin]

Tortuga's Hacker Stats aren't really relevant though, given that frames are mutually exclusive and Tort has no hacker equipment in license

[fallen prism]

True, though FragSig is always solid

[pure yarrow]

Being honest, I got the Coyote into a doc in a pseudo-panic from an LCP, which on short notice means I did not get the format quite right... It's annoying, which is why I'm still stunned I'm here.
The empress is cool AF though

[fallen prism]

All the sick frame art here makes me want to have more time and energy to draw my own frames more

(or comm but money's tight rn sadly)

[slow tangle]

im still so proud of the peppercorn's core power - i think i had a lot of fun conceptualizing this and planning it out

[hushed marlin]

loads catalytic hammer with malicious intent

... Oh wait ranged only

[left bloom]

The amount of great mech art that happens around Lancer is honestly one of the most impressive things about the community, imo.

[slow tangle]

teehee

[left bloom]

I know I want to keep commissioning tons of different artists, but, alas, time and money. 😔

[slow tangle]

ive considered removing ranged only

but thats something i need more playtesting on i think

[tough chasm]

playtesting in general is so time consuming

[slow tangle]

yea you know what im gonna do a TINY update to the protager nanotool at LL3 - because i forgot it didnt work with the core power - and make it a range 1 threat 1 launcher

so it works with the core power but i dont have to make the core power work with melee

[slow tangle]

now working as intended

[formal loom]

welp, after 24 hours, finally finished voting!

[tough chasm]

thats really funny

thats what 30 minutes per frame or something

actually i think its more like 20

[formal loom]

this includes me sleeping, eating, running campaigns, and doing things other than looking at the documents

some took a couple reads to decide on, others i think were faster to read through

[uncut cosmos]

I think can be a pretty key ingredient to whether people like frames or not. If it is complicated is it worth the effort

[sour smelt]

Complexity is definitely a big thing for frames yea

[uncut cosmos]

I did axe like a guardian trait from mine cause I just went "nope too busy" (also it didn't really contribute anything to the intended playstyle)

[north quartz]

On the subject of the frame art, I will add that both @austere pumice and JubeiMuffins have been instrumental and excellent in terms of providing all the visual art in WA, whether providing new designs from the ground-up or providing interesting re-renditions of the existing material.

[formal loom]

i wasnt quite thinking so much on complexitiy as just amount of words and formatting or having to look at external details or comparisons

[uncut cosmos]

that too. as usual follows the usual ttrpg vibes, people really like rulesets that fit on one page (well i guess specifically reference documents)

[formal loom]

they all also have varying degrees of lore lenth in either direction

ultimately though its been a fun time voting and submitting for the contest, even if it is the second time i've submitted "Artillery frame with lock on syngery advanced computer systems a constellar origin good sensors and the Heavyweight Mechanic"

[fallen prism]

True

However

Grayling good

-# (Yes I am profoundly biased lmao)

[formal loom]

tru

stay on the lookout for my submission to the next season of mechanic brewery season 7: Artillery frame with smart weapons lock on synergy advanced computer systems good sensors and the Heavyweight mechanic /joking

[sour smelt]

!remindme 6 months

[slow tangle]

LMAO

[slow tangle]

block 14 is quite stacked, ive got some good competition

[sour smelt]

Next time Mechanics Brewery shows up I hope to have NEXA mostly done so I can show off something a bit more unorthodox.

[shut path]

If we do get another one, I'll hopefully be able to submit something a bit more flashy.
Probably the size 3 wrestling mech that explodes when you hurt it as a core power.

[autumn ibex]

If we do get another one I hope I have art finished for it by then lmao

[left bloom]

I mean, the last one was 3 years ago, so you've got time, probably. 😛

[cedar path]

Didn't you hear? The next one starts in 15 minutes

[frozen vine]

I cant imagine anyone is too keen on parsing 80+ mechs anytime soon

[proven coral]

alright let's check how the poll is going

how in the world is block 6 tied

there's a tied in block 14 too

[slow tangle]

block 14 stacked what can i say we were all cooking

[autumn ibex]

A lot of good optinos

[arctic helm]

allllrighty time to vote

[nocturne crest]

I'm trying to limit my votes to 2 per block because otherwise...

[autumn ibex]

judging by the ties there are probably a lot of double votes lol

[tough chasm]

i lost a vote lmao

[unkempt hollow]

I've been asking myself the same thing

It's been neck-and-neck since yesterday

[magic quiver]

consult a Power Knuckles / Catalytic setup, i feel would be most conductive

that or Chain Axe as well

many great choices

[rigid pier]

Same, and even then, for some of the blocks it's so hard to pick just 2

Turns out the Lancer community in general are pretty damn good at cooking

[pulsar oracle]

This was probably asked twenty times already but how much time do we have to vote?

[left bloom]

IIRC, the timeframe's a week.

[pulsar oracle]

Thank you

[left bloom]

Ah, yep, from the top post:

then the polling phase will begin right afterward on Google form for a week too

[tough chasm]

win or lose, i think this contest was a really fun way to see all the different homebrew people are making

there is so much more than i even imagined

[magic quiver]

i have a question, if it won't be any trouble.

[fallen prism]

Sure, what's up

[magic quiver]

Dispersor Cloak states that it can only have two charges used per scene, and is destroyed when it runs out of charges.

What then happens when you

can no longer spend charges, but through points in Engineering or other bonuses

still have charges?

I am currently interpreting it as

"if you have any bonus to Limited Systems you just have RES to Energy and Burn"

[bitter turret]

as the person who broke it to begin with: no, absolutely not
if you can't spend charges but have them, it don't matter

"take HA core bonus to have perma-resistance" is Bad

[magic quiver]

sure but you could imagine the confusion due to

as long as that's something addressed thats fine, thanks for your time, both

[bitter turret]

@fallen prism add "which can be spent" to the above sentence

[magic quiver]

^

[fallen prism]

Yeah, fair point

But Ash is indeed right, you can only benefit from the function of the system twice a scene

[magic quiver]

i had seen

[fallen prism]

Appreciate the spot

[magic quiver]

its a fun idea, reminds me of the uhh

Priest system of a similar name i believe

[fallen prism]

Mechanically Priests were a bit of an inspiration, narratively antibeam cloaks are cool

[magic quiver]

o7

[formal loom]

tis tru

i did for a while debate on whether or not i wanted to include supplementary reading but decided against it ultimately, as its probably not the place to introduce a political manifesto

Heavyweight is enough of a manifesto as is

[rigid pier]

man I just thought of a really good bit for the next submission (Editors note: This is not a good bit)
Once voting is open, whole cloth change the entire frame, once a day, every day, until voting is closed
Spark an argument in the forums about if the mech submitted was a Support, Controller, Artillery, Striker or Defender, whether it was a weapon class specialist, a hack platform or a condition peddler

[tough chasm]

that would be funny

[obsidian nymph]

(first thing i see looking at the chat)
(um, thanks! <3)

[sour fable]

Currently making art for my submission

[tough chasm]

pishly ref spotted

also i lvoe the huge gun

[sour fable]

Le Particle Accelerator

[onyx sierra]

That is a lot of entries. I do feel I have to at least give a cursory read to them all before voting.

[autumn ibex]

Since we're here, I might as well post the LCP stuff too
https://docs.google.com/document/d/146tcZeYxynJS5FaywFjtK-nUQtHU7KEvCV7IJoRLsuU/edit?usp=sharing

[glacial dust]

side note

how the heck did you get your document so fancy?

I wish I could get my manufacturer documents looking this nice

[tribal radish]

Seconded.

[sour meadow]

Third

[shut path]

It looks like a wombo combo of a few subtle factors.

Like placing the manufacturers art behind text at a lowered opacity, aligning text to fill, carefully spacing out the text correctly and just a touch of a good writing style.

[slow tangle]

Yeah I'll definitely have to consult you for this at some point

[autumn ibex]

I am very passionate about formatting lol

Granted, there is a document base somewhere

But i do very specifically copy the text sizes and everything from the book

[polar hollow]

I do have to say while the art for the Fitzgerald is cool, I really wishes the Dragoon ranked higher in the voting.

Really neat little WW2 engineering corp tank of a spidermech I love it and it's deployable bobbins systems in it's license to go above difficult terrain and stuff

And even if the art is rough, I love the attention to tiny details in it.

(also I love the HA Brugha, there's so many ways a centipede mechs could have been such a mechanical nightmare bogging down games yet everything about the mech and it's license impress me with it's self-restraint and straightforwardness)

[halcyon mango]

If there is another, I'll probably submimt the onion

[autumn ibex]

Art draws the eye and is usually what attracts people to a frame first

Its a big reason why I read through everything before voting

Its more fair for the stuff without art

[slow tangle]

How many days left for the voting by the way?

I haven't been keeping track mentally

[vast nimbus]

5-ish

[slow tangle]

Found it okay 4:00 a.m. EST Feb 14th (9 am GMT)

(Which if I'm doing the math right seems to be like 8 ish days?)

[shut path]

I mainly judged based on the mechanics tbh.
Anyone can commission an art piece and get someone talented to make it, lore is conveying a specific idea of what it is within the narrative but not impactful in play half the time. Mechanics? that's where the creator shines brightest, and where it matters most.

[bitter turret]

while this is true, it unfortunately isn't borne out in voting trends

[shut path]

mhm.

Its how I vote, not how everyone does.

someone voted based on the mech names, for example.

[slow tangle]

💀

That's wild to me — because especially for third party manufacturers — you don't know the context of why that manufacturer uses that name

[shut path]

the reason behing the naming scheme of homebrew manufacturers can be pretty fun.

like seashells, her mechs from scrapper are named after terms of phrase.

[tough chasm]

You made the dragoon? I really liked that one

I honestly thought the whole block was pretty cool

[slow tangle]

For the RPC, The RPC is simultaneously a revolutionary organization as well as a non-profit political and community outreach organization, with very small local branches that are interconnected across the galaxy.

The choice of naming for spices has to do with the fact that spices are deeply interwoven into history and culture, but also the fact that in story, the RPC uses kitchen terminology and spices and culinary terms as a guise to be able to speak about anti-fascist action in public without talking about anti-fascist action in public.

In addition it's also reflective of the fact that I am a anthropologist who, One of my two main fields is the culture of food.

[tough chasm]

You don't think so?

The use of spices as anti fascist code is actually brilliant

Plus it's a very different theming from the rest of the manufactures

[glacial dust]

SKE's frames are named after biomes and geographical features, because they started out as a local engineering group on a fairly hostile frontier planet

[slow tangle]

I quite like SKEs naming scheme

[tough chasm]

The names of lancer both official and not are so cleverly designed

It's clear there was a lot of thought behind them and it's such an integral part of the game

[autumn ibex]

Unfortunately yeah not everyone gives things a fair shot

[glacial dust]

if I were more confident in my alt frame stable I might've submitted something from KM&M

[autumn ibex]

The Fool didn't get much attention until I did a doodle for it

And the manufacturer logo

[polar hollow]

oh, I didn't. My frame is actually the Grammatophyllum(a Tortuga Variant inspired by Goliath NPCs) in Block 5. But I really loved the Dragoon and Brugha and wishes they were higher because they do fun but straightforward stuff in mechanics imo (I do notice I tend to favor simple mechanics over overly complex ones)

[glacial dust]

which are all named after crabs because the whole operation is 5 guys in a shed in space Hawaiʻi

[bitter turret]

I don't think people are ignoring mechanics, but whether conscious or subconscious, it's undeniable that frames with art (especially high-production-value art) visibly increases a frame's vote share.

[sour meadow]

Also how professional the document itself looks

[glacial dust]

I admit it has an effect for me

I'm a visual person, art is the first thing that catches my interest even with core mechs

[pulsar oracle]

I give a vote to every size half frames and nothing else
(lie)

[tribal radish]

I do enjoy seeing and figuring out naming schemes in people’s homebrew.

[shut path]

E.Y.E frames are named after historical figures from Unions history, as well as after people who's names are significant to the culture that inspired them.

We've got the Poia, a native american frame which is a support/striker that uses pure hate of those who harm it and its allies to kill better.
The Clovis, named after the original king of france, is a french mech that fields hordes of rifle wielding grognards, is mounted on a horse drone, and has andre the giant as a back up.
The Wilart, named after a badass WW english immigrant soldier, is built to be a mech that'd be used by rich assholes for hunting people, right down to being entirely dependent upon its own allies to function properly.

I could go on, but, the idea is pretty simple. Plus, they're all named after dead people who's relatives wont sue E.Y.E for misrepresentation, which is important as its a multi-media entertainment corporation that explicitly coops historical figures, among other things, to produce pro-union propaganda.

they are not good people.

[tough chasm]

I really liked that one too lmao

[shut path]

but they make tiny robot mechs for people to do metabot stuff with, so people in universe like them.

[slow tangle]

I can't remember if I brought this up before but the company also explicitly reflects my other anthropological field, me being a queer disabled medical anthropologist who wants to use my work to better advocate for people who are viewed as less than human, by society, like us disabled people, queer people, and other marginalized people.

The founders are a clone, an android (90%+ machine), an unshackled NHP, and a [wallflower spoiler]

So them being a very much non-profit anti-fascist organization that has many local branches across the galaxy, focused both on community aid and revolutionary action - yea thats why

The writing and thematics of the company is very personal

[polar hollow]

thank you ^^

It's been a challenge for me to convey the idea of what gives the feel of the Goliath(at least, corebook one) on a player frame without making it too powerful; thus, rather than directly copy specific optional, stuff like noticing that Goliath has a lot of grapple-like flavored abilities with range higher than 1 which inspired giving Gram's grapple and rams a reach of 2 ontop of the bonus against size 1 and smaller characters(to sell the idea you're playing that giant of a frame, but also play on a bit of a "bully" theme which I felt fit the House of Stone as it's implied manufacturers).

[shut path]

also had this art commissioned for EYE, which definitely gets their vibe across.

[polar hollow]

Meanwhile Tortuga was an easy choice as the license because of the presence of Hyperdense Armor in it's license giving a very nice direct equivalent to Siege Armor from corebook goliaths ontop of the improved shotguns weaponry

(ultimately the whole thing was also inspired because there's not a whole lot of ways to mimic Crush Targeting outside of Examplar 3 and that come with a lot of added wrinkles for something I feel should have an easy player equivalent hence it's presence as an integrated tech action ^^; )

[tough chasm]

Zone control Tortuga alt,,,

[polar hollow]

I am proud of my gilded karrakin trashbully son

[shut path]

tortuga that inflicts invades onto people when shooting them with CQBs....

[primal swift]

I don't bother making my Gdoc look fancy. It was temporary. I used this to make my PDF. https://tetragramm.itch.io/lancer-typst

[tough chasm]

I love that Tortuga has so many alt frames, really speaks to the versitility of the liscence

[shut path]

shooting someone with a shotgun, just to puppet systems them back into your warm ~deadly~ embrace' would be fun.

the tort is the gift that keeps on giving.

[polar hollow]

tbh I think it's a bit more because tortuga is such a popular frame but had yet to have any alt-frames until I feel recently in third party. I didn't know so many people made tortuga variants until this season of mechanic brewery

[tribal radish]

-# eh I’ll throw mine in if others seem to be

My own are SO-S and SW//MG.

SO-S is a product of an auxiliary fleet from IPS-N settling down into Tri-M (the guides system) after maintaining sole trade with them under an isolationist policy for a couple hundred years, eventually with those loosening up SO-S was semi abandoned as a project and completely reformed into the major civilians manufacturer for Tri-M. With conflict threatened for a handful of decades now SO-S tentatively pivots to weapons manufacturing to try and help defend. Its naming scheme is people or groups that either truly aimed or allegedly aimed to have some great noble goal but created things or fields that irreversibly changed history for good and bad.

SW//MG is a bunch of jackasses that stumbled into being mech commissioners after they began running out of alive members from their militant Horus cell days who name all of their stuff after magic nonsense because they are pretentious.

[shut path]

I'm more of a swallowtail guy, but, making an alt for my baby boy is hard since it's already pefect.

[tribal radish]

I think it more speaks to how many people want to make siege ram work.

[polar hollow]

and then you already have it's rambo cousin the Rangertail to boot

[shut path]

I don't like rangertail tbh.

[polar hollow]

I know I've seen folks talk a lot about how Tortuga is apparently a license hard to make variant frames for.

[shut path]

I think it's kinda, as the kids put it, mid-af on god frfr no cap sigma cappa.