THE SILKSONG IS REAL

[autumn kettle]

lmao

fucksplosion time

[tacit wadi]

Think fast chucklenuts

[fervent sand]

||TROBBIO||

I love that I saw "this tool is completely unusable" post about the mirror but it was complaining that Hornet doesn't scream "TROBBIO!" when using it

[autumn kettle]

based and real

[fervent sand]

I'd actually kinda love if they had given the tools different little voice lines when using them

even if it was just Hornet letting out a low, evil giggle when throwing tacks

[brave flower]

have the standard straight pin be SHAW so we can spam SHAW as god intended

[autumn kettle]

i'm still sad that thread storm doesn't have her shouting hegaale

[brave flower]

at least theres a dedicated GARAMA button

[fervent sand]

And a dedicated POSHANKA method

[dreamy scarab]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/1o0dhfs/just_made_the_best_umbrella_ever/

[brave flower]

the shawmbrella...

[proud cobalt]

Clever.

[thick urchin]

Just knocked out Last Judge (I already beat phantom), Courier Rashier, supplies for songwest, and rescuing Sherma from whiteward.

Blasted steps look REALLY different after you have double jump... and there's several jumps that are clearly meant to be just out of reach even for double jump, that a double jump beast charge can easilly clear.

[autumn kettle]

i can't actually think of any steps jumps that are out of reach for wings ngl

at least, the one i can you can get with a pogo

[thick urchin]

You can reach the bottom of the cage I'm standing on in the second pic and walljump up, with a 2J beast charge from the ledge in the first pic.

[autumn kettle]

ohhh, that section

right

you can totally reach that one with just goated wings btw

(clawline included, in fairness)

[thick urchin]

well, it's easy with beast charge

same with the "needs pogo" earlier in the room, and an earlier "just barely possible" doublejump shortcut

[autumn kettle]

oh, none of those jumps need pogo, i was thinking of the one in the last judge walkup room

[thick urchin]

The final bells?

[autumn kettle]

p sure yeah

[fervent sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/comments/1o0gj6w/made_a_mod_that_gives_hornets_outfit_for/

[safe yew]

beat da final boss of act 3

Gamed Complete

[autumn kettle]

congrats

thoughts?

[safe yew]

on the boss or in general? re. boss, difficult. re. game, peak

[fervent sand]

Did ya get ||Mr mushroom launched to space?||

[rose granite]

Realisation: (8 limbs + 0 limbs)/2 = 4 limbs

The reason why Hornet has 2 arms and 2 legs is because she's half spider, half wyrm.

Yeah I'm subscribing to this idea now.

[autumn kettle]

(she also has more than 4 limbs)

(we see at least six)

[rose granite]

I knew it, Pale King has their cloak to hide how many limbs they have.

But yeah, it's an old joke at this point.

[umbral canyon]

she does hold the needle while using the scuttle brace, so it might actually be 6 tbh

[thick urchin]

Except the scuttlebrace is explicitly a mechanical frame. It could be adding entirely new legs on it's own.

[rose granite]

One key question does become that if she has 6+ limbs, where is she hiding the extra ones when naked?

Sounds like a shitpost question, but is meant genuinely.

(and obvious comment, the image is spoilered because it's a spoiler and not because it's NSFW ;p.)

[autumn kettle]

no idea

[rose granite]

My own read on it would align with Rakaydos here, and why I think the scuttle is better viewed as an exception than a rule (in part because holding the needle can be done with silk, but folk have debated Hornet having 4 or 6 legs whilst scuttling anyway so I don't think that's a deal-breaker).

To give an actual answer, I'd wager her body is much like her siblings malleable to some extent, with the norm being the 4 limbed form but exceptions being feasible through assistance and in moments.

In other words, the existence Shape of Unn doesn't meant the Knight has 0 limbs even if that is in the moment true; since inherent in the topic is the presumption that we're talking about a default state rather than exceptions brought on by other means.

Hornet has 4 limbs, but can have more through assistance potentially if need be.

Ofc that is personal interpretation since it's not the most important thing in the world, being just a silly joke in the first place ;p.

[hot mango]

I think the text explicitly states that

Act 2 secret NPC spoilers: ||How badly would it have gone if Hornet had lied to Loam in order to get him to escape?||

[dreamy scarab]

Hollow Knight 3 becomes a QWOPesque farce of ||a horse trying to escape pharloom's air vents||

[thick urchin]

He's in a hidden room, sealed away behind a breakable wall- so there's no reason to believe there ISNT others behind UNbreakable walls. There are too many moving parts for just that NPC to be powring them. Honestly, they are probably enough similar situations that if what you suggest happened, there would be no significant difference.

[hot mango]

I think the worst case scenario is ||he lets himself die because he believes he sinned too badly to be redeemed in life, perhaps becoming a corpse in the Slab||

[thick urchin]

...that reminds me. Apparently there's a lore tablet with the punishments given to sinners. ||Entombed forever to power the citadel underworks, with no redemption|| seems in line with the examples.

[rose granite]

Yeah, that and ||the city does continue working even after they're dead.||

[rose granite]

There are a few I think, but it's been a while since I read them.

[inner fog]

Could be a General Grievous kinda deal with the arms kept together normally

https://tenor.com/view/general-grievous-star-wars-gif-25054286

[fervent sand]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wovbWo7EK9s

[fervent sand]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1707wAVTs-c

[safe yew]

how did y'all go about beating act 3's final boss? i ended up doing it with a perhaps slightly cheesy build (spoilers abound): ||i employed shaman crest with volt filament, weavelight, and pale nails on the neutral-skill button, with play consisting of staying at a distance and launching pale nails whenever possible. i also brought along reserve bind (my one heal for the fight, given all silk is going into nails) and magnetite dice. i found this quite effective: i needed only be vaguely near lost lace to output damage, which let me focus on safer dodging (and thereby made the one-heal situation less punishing)||

[autumn kettle]

i hit them with my needle until they died

this took several hours of learning

[green bone]

Act 3 ||Doing Nyleth rn for my third heart and increasingly starting to suspect I may have missed the third automatic silk-generation upgrade and you dont get it from the main story||

[autumn kettle]

but now i can first try it every time

[safe yew]

would you like a pointer on where to find it?

[elfin ravine]

the last silk heart is indeed optional

[dreamy scarab]

and pretty tucked out of the way

[green bone]

Yeah sure

[safe yew]

(act 2 spoilers) ||return to whiteward. there is a hidden key that fits a lock there - unlock it to open the way to the silk heart||

[green bone]

omfg bruh

lmao

[safe yew]

||back to the bloodborne zone with ye||

[green bone]

The funny part is that ||Whiteward|| was one of the few areas I was 100% confident I fully explored

[elfin ravine]

it's pretty easily missable

[dreamy scarab]

easy to miss, easy to get close without the right skill, easy to forget about...

[elfin ravine]

I figured I would just find the key elsewhere, and forgot

[green bone]

By tomoart985

[fluid star]

I too just hit them with the needle until they died, like topple.

[inland wave]

Same, went Hunter Crest for maximum Hornetstyle

(Did use fast heal and extra heal because golly they just throw a lotta stuff at you for a while )

[rose granite]

Honestly I mainly bounced on their head.

I learnt from Zelda that you're supposed to go after the large weak spot on an enemy, and their head was the largest so seemed appropriate.

[elfin ravine]

It really is as you say; this is a silk shot that will never miss

[rose granite]

But yeah, for a consistent method ||Charge slashes with Shaman seems to be a solid strategy, in part because she's a little too evasive for a lot of the more abusable tools, and in part because Charged Slash + Nail Skills is a lot of damage.||

[inland wave]

That got me through the ||Coral Gauntlet|| real nicely. Flying? Spikes? Whatever, ||High Damage Energy Wave||

[fervent sand]

||I went in with poison architect build, learned the patterns for the early stages, I think I grabbed quick healing just in case. Then when I got through to the phase with the big waves going back and forth every now and then, and the summoning void, I started to dump poison tacks on the floor and throw up some cog flies. That plus hitting when I can got me the fight!||

||didn't use any of my items until I was in the latter half of the fight. Otherwise I would have probably slipped up and dieded.||

[green bone]

032_0032

[autumn kettle]

people be going wild with the skong edits

[thick urchin]

If I was able to make a modded HK boss battle, I think I'd do double Lost Kin, but change one of their heads to match the corpse at Mothwing Cloak, repace the orange goo with black goo, and they summon siblings instead of infection ghosts.

Maybe make it two different versions of lost kin, dream and non dream.

[autumn kettle]

if i made an HK mod boss I'd make it just

the Ghost but with the Hollow Point mod

little ghost has an ak47

it would probably be a skong boss, come to think of it

[thorny bear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsgSvnL9saM

[proud cobalt]

My friend apparently beat them with ||longclaw|| and nail after using up all their shards and rosaries and not wanting to farm for more.

[thick urchin]

Has someone made a mod yet for getting silk on tool hits?

[safe yew]

i don't see any on nexus mods

[autumn kettle]

that sounds beyond broken, but probably entertaining to experience once or twice

[proud cobalt]

Feels like Crisanta of the Wrapped Agony from Blasphemous.

[proud cobalt]

Lol.

[green bone]

Act 3

[safe yew]

(act 3 spoilers)

[haughty zodiac]

Sharing this here because it slaps and is relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4uMerMpdw

[granite hedge]

PHENOMENAL ||Silkpost.|| Absolute cinema right here

[vagrant spruce]

fun fact from reddit a friend sent me - (act 2 spoilers) ||if you find the flea NPCs/huge flea during the "find 5 fleas" quest you get at the start of the game, they have unique icons in the journal||

(||you just have to not find any other fleas first||)

[brave flower]

yeah i found the ||horrible flea within the first 5||

[vagrant spruce]

i definitely didn't, i found that in act 3 after buying a hint LOL

[elfin ravine]

Mooshka also has special dialogue if you find a lot of fleas before you ever talk to him

[vagrant spruce]

oh, neat

[hidden flame]

Chris

Larkin

Is

A

Genius

[solar elbow]

cliag

[proud cobalt]

Well, that's kind of disturbing, but it's fictional bugs so it gets a pass I guess.

[dreamy scarab]

I think it's an edit, given it showed up on the Skong reddit as a silkpost

[solar elbow]

They fell for the silkpost

[proud cobalt]

Oh, ok.

Is a silkpost a shitpost?

[dreamy scarab]

Bingo

[solar elbow]

Specifically it’s people making up (mostly stupid) shit about silksong and trying to pass it off as “real”

[dreamy scarab]

Originally it was, like, faking leaks and release info before we had a release date. But the posters are evolving

https://youtu.be/WSkbylysplI the least serious Folding Ideas

[proud cobalt]

Ok...

[green bone]

Act 3 ||Nyleth feels like such a "yeah I guess this is her"boss||

[thick urchin]

...attempting Savage Beastfly: The Sequel.

[rotund magnet]

||nyleth was really easy||

[tacit wadi]

She was the only one that I didnt fight incidentally

[thick urchin]

Savage beastfly is living up to it's reputation. I've made it past the double summon a few times, but not far enough to win.

[fervent sand]

I believe in you

[thick urchin]

2 hours on one boss is time for a break.

I need to get a needlestorm quick kill on the adds. perhaps a clawline needlestorm should be something I practice?

[autumn kettle]

clawline is a great thing to practice, yeah

you could also use sharpdart

which should be a lot safer for you than thread storm, while still killing it

[umbral canyon]

https://youtu.be/AG_H1WwoSk8?si=jxS3PaJnMr4t0H5i i think the mark of a good game is that it inspires this type of response from people tbh

[rotund magnet]

Rosary canon is fun but very impractical

[safe yew]

it's in dire need of a damage boost

[proud cobalt]

Hell yes.

Friend used RC alot

[proud cobalt]

Do you know 'da artist?

[hot mango]

I actually unequipped tools because I never learned to use them in high stress situations so the visual clutter kept screwing me over… then I equipped Flea Brew + Plasmium Phial and that fixed things

[green bone]

Act 3 Spoilers) by @dim_sharp

||Geniunely the most heartbreaking boss fight in the game||

[wanton bone]

Enough with the silkposting.

[hoary tulip]

Enough ingenious silkposts, I shall tolerate them no further

[proud cobalt]

Lol.

[proud cobalt]

It really is funny reading it because late game it was one of my friend’s go to tools in prolonged boss fight attempts.

Alongside Tacks.

They actually would swap between a lot, but Tacks and RC stuck around a decent chunk.

They used it to save on shards while having over a thousand rosaries.

[green bone]

The silkposting will continue until morale improves

[brave flower]

morale has already improved, the game is out and its really good!!!

[proud cobalt]

True.

Now we silkpost to troll the doubters.

[south marten]

They discovered infinite silk glitch

[thick urchin]

Alright, back to the Beastfly 2 grind

[rose granite]

I mean yeah, ||that's just grandmother silk||

[thick urchin]

Well that was fast...

call it 2, 2 and a half hours day 1, 15 minutes day 2

[south marten]

No no no

Outside ||GMS fight||

[tall night]

https://youtu.be/wSQFmQ3WwVY?si=veKJ4iK0NhPcUVUQ

[rose granite]

Oh I know ||t'was just joking since she's also an infinite source of silk.||

[south marten]

I mean yeah

But also ||she's part of the glitch currently lmao||

[dreamy scarab]

Act 3: I did the Very Hard Platforming! ...but I forgot to finish the hunter's journal for the ||manta things|| at the end...

[inland wave]

Did the same, didn't even factor in for me that they were like, killable

[dreamy scarab]

Seems like everything is killable given the application of magic or high explosives

Will see if I can't sneak in from the shortcut at the end

[thick urchin]

Chef Lugosi is shaping up about as hard as Beastfly was. Maybe not quite as much, but still awkward to learn, and I'm taking the runback slow and safe- so far me cocoon has almost a thousand rosaries just from runback enemies.

Might be time to think about extracting the coocoon and buying something.

...extracted, key bought, remaining rosaries turned into items... and then I notice the donation wishes. Benchwarp back to the Chef runback. Maybe when I actually beat him.

[dreamy scarab]

oh, interesting: the bugs (act 3, sorta secret) ||on the surface|| don't have contact damage

[hot mango]

Both unexpectedly funny and also a brand new interaction I never knew about (act 2 spoilers) || https://youtube.com/shorts/sbzkpnBNVOg||

[elfin ravine]

If its a poison cogfly, the barnak also gets damaged I believe

[fervent sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1o2wtef/remembered_i_had_free_will_by_dooblebugss/

punishment

[proud cobalt]

Lol, fair enough.

Pretty cursed but not the most bothersome thing.

[rose granite]

I think they're cute

[proud cobalt]

Yeah, it's fine.

There are vastly worse ships.

The Green Prince's relationship weirds me out but that's fiction so it's fine.

[rose granite]

Yeah, I find the topic of what makes a dynamic to be a fun one, but dont engage in the talks too much besides Phantom.

It was a bit funny though to see Shakra somehow ending up being shipped with Hollow Knight though.

[proud cobalt]

I have no clue where that ship comes from.

[rose granite]

I'll admit that much as I think myself capable of calling a dynamic, or characters folk will ship even if I think they're inserting a dynamic into it not supported by the text, that one slipped me by

[proud cobalt]

Yeah, I don't really partake in very much shipping as by and large romance tends to bore me, or in worse cases, disturb/creep me out.

[rose granite]

Tbh I think partially them being tall, partially because it's funny, and partially because ships generally operate within a dynamic imagined more than anything.

[tall night]

why?

[proud cobalt]

Ok, for some reason I forgot The Hollow Knight is the name of the... well the Hollow Knight and not the Vessel.

[proud cobalt]

'Keeping it in the family.'

[rose granite]

I'm on the other end with enjoying romance a lot as a genre, simply because I enjoy interpersonal dynamics in stories, but this also leads to me dying on plenty a hill haha.

[tall night]

oh they arent actually brothers. i saw a post around saying they were but it was fake afaik

[proud cobalt]

I thought they literally said in game they were brothers?

[tall night]

the game calls them lovers and partners a few times but not that i know of

[proud cobalt]

A friend I talk to frequently is a diehard romantic so that's fine.

[rose granite]

At least they are alike enough to have undertones of the narcissistic potentially, but I think it works either way since it's more a classic tragedy kind of story.

[proud cobalt]

Ok where did I hear they were brothers? Cause it was very much not from reading any sort of posts.

Cause I have not read any posts about Silksong at all.

[rose granite]

It's a popular interpretation of their lines in the journal I believe.

[tall night]

i think some translations are a little iffy as well, im not sure

[rose granite]

Which admittedly translations can have contradictory information, ain't too unusual.

Especially if it's a question of subtext.

[tall night]

though take it with a grain of salt i could also be wrong, i just havent seen anything that suggested it

they are royalty i suppose- it just seems unlikely

[proud cobalt]

I thought in dialogue with him he mentions they were family and partners... but reading over the wiki dialogue list, nothing of the sort is there.

[rose granite]

I think it's vague enough that either interpretation is valid as an initial read, which invariably means you're going to have long talks about it lol.

[tall night]

found this in the reddit regarding translations lol

[proud cobalt]

I have no clue where I read that they were brothers then, I've only seen one guy play the game to completion in English.

Like the other 2 I watched partway, one of them idr if they even met him and the other... was around cogwork dancers.

I'm gonna ask my friend who I watched play their opinion.

[proud cobalt]

Ok, they said from reading the lore they were either just lovers or brothers that loved each other very much, but the line I was thinking wasn't there.

Whatever, seems I was wrong, this was brought up because odd relationships/ships in HK/SS.

Iirc, wasn't Iselda in HK an adventurer before Cornifer?

[elfin ravine]

She was yes

[proud cobalt]

Just checking, wonder what got her to settle down with Cornifer.

And I don't mean just 'romance' but rather what you all think she saw in him, and vice versa.

Do you think it was originally just a sort of adventuring party of 'map maker and adventurer bodyguard'?

[rose granite]

Look, he's cute.

Putting it another way, whilst there are many a different form of romances both in fiction and IRL, with these I'd argue it's in part the capacity to be vulnerable in moments of intimacy, to find someone who makes a home your home.

There's a piece of dialogue from if you Dream Nail Iselda that's rather relevant here.

I'm glad I put down my weapon, this quiet life with Corny makes me a lot happier. It would be nice to stretch my legs again though... sometime soon...

[autumn kettle]

i love how sweet the couples in HK are

[rose granite]

Cornifer is eccentric, weird, and with a deep love for cartography, but much as those qualities I'm sure worry Iselda, they're also why I'd wager she loves him dearly.

Fittingly the storyline with the two does end with Iselda likely following her husband out on their adventures together.

Cornifer's home at last, but look at him, he's exhausted. He always does this, furiously charts a place, then collapses once he's done.
He'll be sleeping for some time I imagine, so even with him home, I'm still lost for company.
Ahhh, but I do love the bug, even his faults. Seeing his passion for maps, it's something of an inspiration.
Corny keeps asking me to join him on his adventures and I've always declined. Maybe next time I should accept the offer?

[autumn kettle]

would love to see them in skong dlc

[inland wave]

I do feel like it could have been like, a month, or 300 years since Hollow Knight

[proud cobalt]

Apologies if I came off as insulting Corny, am not intending to, I just wanna know what specifically. I just hate the excuse of 'It was love at first sight' because that simply almost never turns out well.

While I'm not geared towards romance, I can accept friendship just fine and alot of those things are good in a friendship too.

[rose granite]

It's not really a romance at first sight deal with them, and more a form of cozy intimacy and the potential to make something together. It's vulnerable and honest in a way, where yes he's a goofball but that's also why he's lovely.

It's worth noting that a lot of things that make for a lasting friendship also help with lasting romances, but romance is to an extent also something which to various degrees clicks.

Even if romance can be ironically romanticised too at times in ways that doesn't really work, but if I go down that rabbit hole you'll just have me talking about why platform economics suck as they try to turn the personable into a transactional good, to instill in people a sense that we are to speak of ourselves as commodities, which this isn't the channel for ;p.

[proud cobalt]

Yeah fair enough, I want to say I wasn't thinking Cornifer/Iselda was a 'love at first sight' case but rather that I would not accept that as an answer. I wanted to actually hear of their qualities and you have thus explained them, thank you.

[tall night]

When it comes to the princes the lore tablet was like, souls entwined born apart i just sort of assumed that meant soul mates

[tall night]

also, personal theory for act 2 ||old penitent is totally conductor romino||

[south marten]

Where are they again?

[tall night]

hes in ||an empty cell in the slab, you caan hear grumbling in the darkness hes hugee and trundles out of the dark comes out from deep in the cell and sings for you if you needolin, one of my favorite npcs||

looking into it this seems to be a shared theory among some

theres something here i think

||like maybe a halfway form that isnt weaver totally , this is all spitballing of course, mayabe like the conductors were like the weavers doing what silk did to them, like vampire spawn making their own vampire spawn elevating lesser things idk who knows||

[autumn kettle]

||where is the name romino mentioned otherwise?||

[tall night]

romino is who wrote the controversial pharloom poem at the start of the game

[autumn kettle]

ahhhh

[dreamy scarab]

act 3 late: the ||Karmelita|| fight is really cool. I can tell I'm close to getting it, but it's definitely kicking my ass 😂

[inland wave]

Sometimes she pulls the ol' ||"I'm gonna do this four times in a row actually"|| manuever and that always gets me

'surely not again-FUCK'

[dreamy scarab]

preemptively taking a lot of breaks with how much this fight seems to hurt people. (for a while I was convinced this was the secret final boss, since the name kept coming up in "act 3 fights that are kicking my ass" discussions)

[rose granite]

It is one of the toughest fights in the game for good reason

[elfin ravine]

What really got me about it is her blocking

[dreamy scarab]

yeah! blocking is unfair, only I should get to parry

[elfin ravine]

It feels just slightly random sometimes

[rose granite]

I got done in by the spin against the wall tbh

But Silksong in general is very much like fighting games in that Bosses are rough if you're up against a wall.

[dreamy scarab]

except ||groal||, ironically

wait, no, that one's still true ||because you barely get any damage windows unless you stand in the middle||

[fervent sand]

I mean unless you throw tools at the dude

Suck bombs frog face

[rose granite]

There is another boss where I discovered that standing against a wall and throwing diagonal down airs just wrecked them.

||Nyleth||

It may be the boss the second most hard countered by a tool I've encountered in the game.

[hollow elm]

[Act 3 boss, Act 2 skill] ||Nyleth|| gets dumped on really badly by the ||Cross Stitch|| skill, too.

[rose granite]

They just have a rough time as soon as you realise you don't actually need to play by their rules.

||since the only real challenge in the fight is that the floor, and her wall, is lava||

[fluid star]

I'm very curious what "playing by her rules" looks like, considering ||"pogo on this moving platforming section that can occasionally hurt you" is pretty much how to win against the boss.||

[rose granite]

That's playing by their rules yes. ||Try out some conchshells in the fight and you'll see how quickly she just plain dies. It's honestly kind of silly.||

[thick urchin]

Doing the bilewater gauntlet. Found the ||real|| bench, but it's still a mandatory maggot dunk to get back to the main path.

[autumn kettle]

it is not, no

i can confidently say skill issue

[thick urchin]

(Or a longer route to get back to an earlier point)

[autumn kettle]

again, no

[sinful stirrup]

You can do it with clawline+dash, but it requires precision

I just used the wreath.

[autumn kettle]

you don't even need precision, neutral clawline from near the ledge sets you up absurdly generous

[sinful stirrup]

Regardless, 'skill issue' is not actually a helpful response, it's just condescending.

[somber smelt]

I could not land that often enough to matter haha

[thick urchin]

With your help, I was able to get past the first wave of the final arena. Got up to round 5, or so, no boss yet.

[rose granite]

It's a tough one

[elfin ravine]

If you have other things to do still, I very much recommend leaving Bilehaven for last

[rose granite]

I'm guessing you're also doing it all with Beast still?

[elfin ravine]

It only locks something for the very end of Act 2

[thick urchin]

yes. And I've been putting off Clockwork Dancers.

I might be down to this and High Halls.

[rose granite]

Ah if so then yeah I get why the dunk may indeed be mandatory, but don't quite know how the various parts of bilewater feel to cross with different degrees of mobility tools available.

IIRC did you do the ascent of Mount Fay without clawline, or am I misremembering?

[thick urchin]

I was not THAT masochistic.

[rose granite]

Hey, some folk are

[thick urchin]

I tried a few times, but that first gap was too much for me.

[rose granite]

Mm, if you're willing to do Clockwork it does open up the route to a lot of stuff afterwards

[thick urchin]

/killingourgays

[rose granite]

Think ||Clockwork > Pale Oil in Whispering > Clawline > Mount Fay|| is what really opened up the game for me, especially since you max out on tools along the way there.

[thick urchin]

Speaking of pale oil, I've got 3 parts of for the gourmang oil. Need Crustnut and Nectar.

[autumn kettle]

i'm embarrassed to admit i didn't think of where to get nectar

[rose granite]

Oh those two are fairly easy ||Blasted Steps and Halfway||

you've got this.

[fluid star]

Technically, I suppose, for the ||Crustnut||.

[wanton bone]

||what’s the alternative route into whispering vaults? Is there one||?

[rose granite]

Hm, can't think of any rn?

[vagrant spruce]

||in from cogwork core, in from underworks||. there's two routes opened up from the inside first - ||choral chambers through trobbio arena, first shrine through the hole in the floor||. not sure what movement abilities are required for the 2nd main entrance

[wanton bone]

In from ||Underworks requires Trobbio, no?||

[vagrant spruce]

progression wise, i don't think there's any major way in that isn't the obvious & intended one

i'm pretty sure no - whiteward works

might require double jump, not sure, but you just need to be on the correct side

[wanton bone]

Checking an online map and it has a ||locked door only openable from trobbio’s elevator.||

[rose granite]

Yeah that's what I was thinking? This being the relevant section on the map.

[thick urchin]

Searched|| Blasted steps, accidently discovered Sands of Karak||, cant find crustnet.

[rose granite]

You're closer then

I misremembered the exact location, but you accidentally found the right direction

[wanton bone]

Orange’s advice is bad, look in the ||sands||

[rose granite]

To be fair I didn't think they'd unlocked ||Sands|| yet ;p.

[wanton bone]

And also, ||Dancers|| is a big checkpoint boss. Probably the intended first boss of act 2, seeing how much it unlocks.

[thick urchin]

to be fair, I hadnt. :p

[elfin ravine]

it's further in there, keep looking

[thick urchin]

Got the Nectar, finally.

[thick urchin]

Crustnut and Oil aquired, ||nail sharpened.||

[autumn kettle]

yippee

[thick urchin]

||Broodmother|| time. I have a decent strategy to get to phase 2, but phase 2 throws off my rythum, and 3 mistakes and it's over.

[autumn kettle]

not doing it with 7 or 8 masks?

that seems like it could get rough

[thick urchin]

I'm at 7, but I'm assuming at least one of the mistakes is a combo.

Using upgraded Druids as my blue slot.

[warm wraith]

Oh I should upgrade druids

[wanton bone]

What nail upgrade?

[thick urchin]

Just 1 ||oil||

[fervent sand]

I've done it on 1 but it will be a little bit of a rough fight

[thick urchin]

The beast pogo does work in phase 1, thou

[fervent sand]

Part of me who likes making food from games and stuff wants to try and make the master's gourmet food

Not exactly of course

But something

[dreamy scarab]

pretty straightforward aspic. gotta find a roach alternative, but that could be, like, shrimp.

[wanton bone]

I'd highly recomend a forray into clockwork then.

[autumn kettle]

(maggot, not roach)

(the larval form)

(but extreme quibble)

[fervent sand]

Nectar, pickled maggot, greasy meat, crustnut and mossberry stew...

[elfin ravine]

The crustnut sounds basically like nutmeg tbh

[fervent sand]

It pretty much is

It's weird where this might wind up being almost a dessert. if it wasn't for the meat.

[autumn kettle]

well, that's like a lot of savory jellies, yeah?

[fervent sand]

Probably yeah

[solar elbow]

like one of those jello mold salad things?

[fervent sand]

bloop

[wanton bone]

This feels like some dish made by a 50s housewife who both really likes jello and has no idea how to actually cook.

[fervent sand]

Do my best not to make ick

[warm wraith]

hh anyone have tips for ||bell eater?||

[vagrant spruce]

^ early act 3 boss

[vagrant spruce]

do you have the ||voltvessel|| red tool?

or ||rune rage|| silk skill?

a lot of tools in general are solid on that fight. you can hit the projectiles to knock them away as well, you don't need to dodge them (a mix of dodge/parrying them is probably best). otherwise, just be patient and only try for ~2 hits per cycle, and you can chip it down slowly

[warm wraith]

gotcha, i do have both

no shards though loll

[vagrant spruce]

lmaoo

||voltvessels specifically is good because it's high damage, hits in an aoe so it'll always hit the vulnerable parts, and you can catch both head and butt in the same cast. rune rage, same thing, big aoe. thread storm is better for damage i think but riskier to use bc the range, so if you're struggling i'd try rune raging from out of range of either end of the boss||

[warm wraith]

right, makes sense

tyty

[vagrant spruce]

gl!

[warm wraith]

did it!!

||my goat came in clutch||

||BABIES OH MY GID||

[vagrant spruce]

wooooo!

[vagrant spruce]

||you have unlocked the best ability now. summon babies||

[warm wraith]

||hello snail shamans. hornet is so pissed (as she should be)||

[warm wraith]

sdjfkjdsfnkjd ||the climb out of abyss is grueling my wrist hurts, i will try again some other day lmaoo||

[fluid star]

I found the first section of that, with the ||big lava spitters|| very rough. After that though it was just quick and tight, but quite rewarding feeling, platforming.

[thick urchin]

...beat broodmother earlier today. I had a winning stratagy last night, but my execution was falling apart due to fatigue.

Still have Upper Sands, Upper Memorium, Wisp Thicket, Upper Bilewater, and High Halls as places I can clear out before Cog Dancers. Plus First sinner.

[rose granite]

Is there any special reason why you're leaving cog dancers til last?

[thick urchin]

Not really

[rose granite]

Also, don't think you can do High Halls without having done Cog, unless you're using some tech I'm not aware of.

Which you might be.

[thick urchin]

I can get INTO high halls from the left. I dont know if it's completable.

[wanton bone]

In that case, I’d recommend clearing them - they unlock a lot of early act 2 stuff.

[rose granite]

Yeah, basically ||all movement options left and a nail upgrade are locked behind them, amongst other things.||

But of what you listed, only High Halls is the one I'm fairly sure you can't do. Doesn't mean the others won't be really difficult still, but I can't remember which of them may have jumps that require later movement tech.

[wanton bone]

And the stuff they block is on the easier end of act 2

[wanton bone]

You can get the movement tools without dancers.

[rose granite]

Still, kudos to you for pushing through all of this; you're doing stuff I'd have balked at lol.

[thick urchin]

Yea, I'm pretty sure the only movement tool I dont have is the vertical superjump.

[fluid star]

I don't think any ||movement options|| are locked behind Dancers. You can get into the ||Eastern Underworks|| from ||Whiteward|| instead.

[rose granite]

Ah ok, if so then you're good.

[wanton bone]

But nail upgrade and a lot of other random stuff is behind them.

[rose granite]

For some reason I was assuming the latter location was locked behind having to beat the dancers, but since Memorium was mentioned that is demonstrably wrong.

If so it's mainly the pale oil that you can't get rn, and the rest you can do as you want.

[thick urchin]

And I got one oil from the|| gorumand||, so I'm actually pretty close to on curve without the cog locked oil.

[elfin ravine]

Two other areas are locked by Dancers

[rose granite]

If I can recommend one thing ||complete Shakra's questline before you do High Halls||

Not 100% necessary, but fun

[wanton bone]

I think you're also pushing into the stuff that's assumed to be after 2 oils.

[elfin ravine]

I would very much recommend doing Vaults for the oil before you try Bilehaven at least

[thick urchin]

Do I need the high halls map for that, or just wisp thicket?

[rose granite]

You don't need either of those two for that I don't think.

[thick urchin]

...oh, wispering vaults.

[autumn kettle]

vaults oil and the pile of money you get in vaults is so helpful

for basically everything in citadel, but certainly halls gauntlet and bilewater

[rose granite]

Still, overall I honestly think you'll be fine. Purchase the tool damage upgrades so that you're maxed there if anything.

[autumn kettle]

i think you just need every shakra map

which means no thicket, slab, or citadel maps are necessary

[rose granite]

But if you've got the skills to do what you've already done, you have the skills to do what's left.

[thick urchin]

What are these.. TOOLS... you speak of? /s

Tried using tacks on broodmother till I ran out of shards.

[rose granite]

It also upgrades ||flintslate|| I believe ;p.

[thick urchin]

I really need the upgraded ||plasmium injector||

[rose granite]

Though not by much, since it only affects the burning I think

That I'm afraid is really late into the game.

Though I feel you, it's annoying to use without it.

[thick urchin]

...something for a beast crest TAS would be to get the 5 ||plasmium flies|| and then ||overdose with injector||, and then just never use a bench ever.

[autumn kettle]

what do you mean? that takes time

a lot more time than just not getting hit

if you're doing a TAS

[thick urchin]

Maybe steel soul then. :p

[thick urchin]

||High halls|| is all done except the gauntlet, including the shortcut so I can reach the gauntlet faster.

[rose granite]

My boys!

[thick urchin]

Maybe I should let "the boys" handle Cogwork Dancers.

But after I've gotten everything else.

I'll probably hold off the actual ||high halls gauntlet|| till after ||Oil 2||, given it's notoriety.

[autumn kettle]

dancers are extremely easy, you probably won't want to even spend the shards on them

[modern fossil]

Dancers are a little tricky but once you get it you'll wish you could do it again

[warm wraith]

I’m never doing ||high halls gauntlet|| ever again <3

[autumn kettle]

lol

[wanton bone]

Honestly, would make some sense for the boss rush mode to include the more notable gauntlets.

[tall night]

im considering just cheesing it if it starts pissing me off

[rose granite]

Should be fine if you have a bunch of damage upgrades.

But without them it can be rough yeah

[rose granite]

Pantheon that's just all the enemy gauntlets combined into one.

I don't think it'd even be that difficult with enough upgrades, even if red tools would suffer, just incredibly tedious ;p.

[warm wraith]

Oh true red tools would suffer in a pantheon like environment huh

[autumn kettle]

i mean, not especially

pantheons scatter benches

and i imagine there would be shard nodes similar to the lifeblood ones

[warm wraith]

Mm fair

[rose granite]

Depends on the pantheon but should be fine if they give you back some after each fight or every so often .

The issue was more because in this joke hypothetical, you'd be fighting all the arenas in a row without a break in-between.

[warm wraith]

aah right

sting shard <3

[thick urchin]

Put a bench IN the arena. To use it, you have to have an uninterrupted second without getting attacked.

[rose granite]

I think you don't even need a condition, people would just be so sure it'd be trapped that they'd never use it.

[thick urchin]

set the rules to- you repair tools first, then masks, and it all stops if you are hit.

[wanton bone]

Could even include tool but not hp repair stations.

[hot mango]

Hey does Multibinder prompt Clawmirror to trigger multiple times? I was watching a video where someone had both equipped and it looks like that happened

[hoary tulip]

yes

[elfin ravine]

It does, yes

[hot mango]

Goddamn

[dreamy scarab]

I think it might not if you have witch crest equipped, but I haven't tested that

With Claw Mirror equipped, Hornet's Bind animation is changed to add a twirl before Binding.

[rose granite]

Should work, though the binds are fast enough with multibind that I don't think you get the full damage of the rotation in both blasts. This just means that the damage isn't doubled, but it's still very high (unless they've nerfed it ;p).

[dreamy scarab]

oh, interesting. because it's multiple small hits, rather than one big hit?

if anything it should be buffed now, since it's scaling with tool kits

[rose granite]

Think it's just that the binds are too fast for all the mirror blasts to proc 2 times.

[dreamy scarab]

does that mean that injector band reduces multibinder+mirror damage as well?

[rose granite]

Can't remember, there's a video on it but those are difficult to find

[elfin ravine]

it actually got higher with the last patch I believe

since mirror damage scales with toolkits now

[rose granite]

Here's an old breakdown of it, not accounting for patch changes if there are any

[dreamy scarab]

I should probably try mirror in my witch loadout for (late act 3) ||Karmelita||. But I like sawtooth circlet and longclaw too much...

[elfin ravine]

Sawtooth also got buffed pretty significantly in the last patch

at full toolkits it scales up to I think about slightly more than a nail hit worth of damage?
assuming fully upgraded nail

[dreamy scarab]

yeah. the answer is probably drop longclaw and git gud instead of relying it to patch my sketchy positioning. I lose too much health to needlessly avoidable contact damage.

27+1 on the circlet, according to the wiki, versus 21 on the final needle (17 on final-1)

but I swear the circlet can trigger multiple hits on certain animations/larger enemies, so actual damage could be higher in practice

[rose granite]

I'm more hedging my bets since Team Cherry don't give exact numbers for their changes, and have been doing quite a few of those recently (skill spoilers) ||https://youtu.be/md6g33Sjru0?si=yLhq_1TngCjGofO-||

[dreamy scarab]

oh, I think that's one I watched last night ||the nerf to extended threadstorm is interesting. it was probably too strong, but now it doesn't seem worth it to extend it for damage||

[rose granite]

Overall they've normalised the damage across skills, which feels odd with ||Rune Rage receiving nerfs across the board||

As such your best bet rn is prolly to use threadstorm for AOE moreso than dps, and then focusing on utility/ease of use for your mainstay skills.

Current damage numbers for the curious.

[elfin ravine]

you can AFAIK also multi hit with Circlet by turning around during the animation

[elfin ravine]

RR getting nerfed feels so strange

and with Threadstorm going down as well, it just feels like the other options are even better in comparison

||Nails|| especially

[dreamy scarab]

oh, that's really funny. so Total Optimal Play is like. Jump, pogo, double jump (wiggle control stick aggressively), down dash, pogo, loop. only twice as many inputs as I can feasibly manage 😂

[elfin ravine]

yes

you do a lot of dash into pogo into cancelled double jump

[dreamy scarab]

mhm. I just need to learn to avoid ||Karmelita|| jumping up and hitting me in the middle of pogos. then I'll be unstoppable

[rose granite]

Threadstorm does have some very specific utility still such as dealing with fixed enemy spawns in arena battles, but yeah.

[elfin ravine]

but also yeah, it is really demanding input wise
but does actually do some pretty crazy output if you do it right

[rose granite]

Think rn with skills I'll just prioritise utility since the difference between them all in terms of damage is about a single needle attack at most.

[elfin ravine]

here's a video showcasing it a bit on the act 2 boss
though she is also uniquely vulnerable to this strat too I suppose
|| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z82SgTu1KrE ||

but either way, Circlet is a lot better than I gave it credit for originally
especially after the patch now

[rose granite]

Yeah, tbh the main struggle with learning to use it is just spacing

And after that all the animation cancelling

[elfin ravine]

for bosses with contact damage, which is the majority, it is definitely trickier to use well

[inland wave]

As someone that beat the whole game without knowing you could mash Thread Storm: Thread Storm will remain good

[elfin ravine]

though there is also a lot of shenanigans with dash iframes you can do

[rose granite]

Which is the usual story with a lot of stuff in this game. There's a reason why reaper is so popular lol.

[rose granite]

Not really the argument being made, just that it'll be more niche and that extending it is unlikely to be worth it now.

[elfin ravine]

it'll still be good, but with it's damage advantage much lower it does give an edge to other silk skills with less committment necessary IMO

[rose granite]

That and the extended damage is unlikely to be worth it

Leaving it as I suspect largely an AOE option or for hitting bosses with annoying angles.

[wanton bone]

I find myself swapping between threadstorm and the spear depending on how close I want to get and what AoE coverage I want. Spear saved my ass in a particularly arena or two. Also have the dash, but haven’t really used it. I’m also admittedly bad about using silk skills.

[rose granite]

The dash is nice as an aoe and escape option, with damage on par with threadstorm now.

[elfin ravine]

Sharpdart and Cross Stitch gained a good bit of damage with the patch

[rose granite]

Yeah, the damage between all skills rn is fairly similar.

[wanton bone]

It looks like sharpdart is still 3xNail

[rose granite]

RR and extended threadstorm being the two outliers, but RR is RNG dependent whereas extended threadstorm is an extra 21 damage I believe which is made up for with a single nail strike (which you should have time for).

[dreamy scarab]

right. even without fancy inputs, just pogo+circlet shreds her, but that's another level

[rose granite]

It's kinda funny how many bosses still struggle against pogos. Their main recourse is oft their repositioning.

[dreamy scarab]

that's probably why I've gotten as far as I have. my instinct is to pogo everything.

...which works well except for the things that are immune to pogos

[rose granite]

Pogoing and projectile parries are two skills which I legitimately think can get you through almost the whole game

[wanton bone]

I like Hunter, but there’s so many places where the pogo is rough.

[thick urchin]

Upper Sands conquered

[rose granite]

She found her people!

Turns out Hornet wasn't a weaver all along, she was a ||lobster!||

[thick urchin]

In other news, fleatopia, before cogwork dancers

[modern fossil]

100% with a minimum amount of bosses would be cool to see

Although I guess cogwork dancers is mandatory without glitches

[sinful stirrup]

Blend frames are usually weird

[autumn kettle]

the creature

[spark ether]

awoooo

[warm wraith]

omg

[proud cobalt]

Now dodge them…

[rotund magnet]

The jiggle is the one I can’t accomplish

Juggle

[proud cobalt]

It did look difficult.

[inland wave]

It's just a bit too much 'pay attention to the whole screen at once', the random speedball fleas are a dread curse

[proud cobalt]

Yah.

[elfin ravine]

https://www.tumblr.com/friedunicornstudio/637526061511589888/

FRIED UNICORN STUDIO

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[proud cobalt]

Fair enough.

[thick urchin]

Interesting... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKjKE18U1kQ

I might be interested in a "1 player per crest" type setup. Pretend Wanderer is Knight, Reaper is Quirrel, ect.

[elfin ravine]

that was fast

[wanton bone]

My guess is it’s borrowing heavily from HK multiplayer

[wanton bone]

Huh, seems like they have synced damage, just with friendly fire turned off. Might not be the case, hard to tell from the 3 minutes I watched. If so, Silksong Speedrunner vs. Hunters is technically feasible.

[south marten]

Hunters should only be allowed to have Hunter crest

[thick urchin]

Or beast crest

[tulip nest]

I'm nearly there but good lord I am not enjoying act 3

I'm enjoying the setting, but I feel like Act 2 had stronger bosses

||Nyleth is gimmicky, Khann is 4 fucking gauntlets, and I was really hoping for a sword fight against pinstress rather than Primal Aspid Boss||

[modern fossil]

Luckily you did the weakest parts of act 3 first lol

I promise the remaining portions are much better

[autumn kettle]

I found ||nyleth's gimmick to be quite refreshing||

||an extremely easy and low-intensity but fun platforming boss as a palate cleanser after the tight, fast-paced fights with seth and karmelita||

||the latter of which you'll be coming up on soon||

oh!

okay, ||shaman|| crest wasn't supposed to be this slow with multibinder

good to know!

oh, and this also wasn't intended

also good to know

[safe yew]

oh indeed

[fervent sand]

Bell beast no longer classified as OD support dog

[elfin ravine]

https://www.tumblr.com/miikrowelle/796872808397406208/oh-so-many-fluffy-fleas-hornet-in-flea-heaven-rn

Miikrowelle

Oh so many fluffy fleas.....

Tumblr · Oct 8, 2025, 8:58 PM

[thick urchin]

...finally reached Groal, not just his minions.

One poisn cogfly seems to be a good sweetspot for getting past the minions.

[hoary tulip]

Bilewater boss spoilers: ||https://youtu.be/A9jqMn5XBQg||

[thick urchin]

furthest I got today was ||Vengeful Spirit|| phase. In other news, where's a good place to farm up shell shards?

[elfin ravine]

Farm rosaries and buy shard bundles instead

It's faster

[proud cobalt]

Saw this, is great.

[warm wraith]

act 3 ||went above the cradle. got a trinket. and maybe carpal tunnel.||

[safe yew]

(act 3 spoilers, though i'm just talking about a song from the soundtrack with a spoilery name) ||time signature's wacky on lost verdania. switches around between 7/4 and 8/4 a bunch||

[thick urchin]

...just had a really good run where all I did was throw bombs when Groal tried sucking me in. Got to the spell phase in only 3-4 hits, and got another hit or two in afterward as well.

...last beast shard popped. I've got like 2-3 more attempts before I have to abandon this.

[rose granite]

Yeah, had an experience like that with another boss which was ultimately what lead to me installing a mod for a shard magnet (and 2x shard droprate with another mod ;p). Not necessary for the game by any means, but was a really nice piece of quality of life.

Still surprised there wasn't a side quest in the game to make a shard magnet, either by upgrading the shard tool or by combining it with the rosary magnet.

Still, you've got this

[dreamy scarab]

I feel like there's a (silly) diegetic explanation in "shards are parts of a shell, so they aren't magnetic"....which begs the question of why rosaries are

[thick urchin]

...and I'm out

[rose granite]

True, the only thing you should be able to collect is magnetite

Hornet will have a dice collection to rival any ttrpg player.

[wanton bone]

A collection of loaded dice, even.

[rose granite]

Rosary cannon + Magnet + Magnetite Dice for the ultimate weapon.

[autumn kettle]

magnetite in em

[thick urchin]

Restocked and back at the bench.

Farming the tall guys outside First Shrine with Beast crest is funny. With rage, dash knocks you into the air and you can strike 3 more times before you hit the ground.

[autumn kettle]

i love doing that with longclaw wanderer, yeah

[thick urchin]

GROAL DEFEATED!

Apparently the cheese strat works.

That leaves ||Wisp Thicket, High halls gauntlet, First sinner||, and three fleas in areas I can access, before the game forces me to be homophobic.

[rose granite]

Can't believe you'd be phobic against homes

[thick urchin]

Have you seen what they become under the full moon? shudders WEREhouses!

[rose granite]

Omg, they were houses!

[south marten]

What's homophobic in this case? Fighting Lace?

[noble ocean]

|| Clover dancer?||

[wet anvil]

I think they're talking about breaking up the couple ||of Cogwork Dancers||

[thick urchin]

^this

[thick urchin]

||Wisp thicket|| just needs to clear it's boss now.

[thick urchin]

boss cleared

Pretty lucrative runback, if you defend yourself each attempt and dont just make a mad dash for the boss.

[proud cobalt]

Fair enough.

[south marten]

fwiw, ||Cogwork Dancers are one person||

[fervent sand]

I kinda love that item. Fwoosh squoosh boom

[warm wraith]

am i just tired or is ||tormented trobio|| really annoying lol

[fervent sand]

I mean my boy is designed to be over the top and annoying

randomly bouncing multiple direction hitting bomb balls n all

[thick urchin]

||First sinner|| Down!

Memory Crystal was great in this fight.

I also used the anklets and flea brew to keep up with her.

My crest

[granite hedge]

is that the beast crest?

[thick urchin]

Yes

[rotund magnet]

Tgats the one I really can’t figure out

Pogo is just so awkwards

[thick urchin]

After playing beast, reaper/wanderer pogos are so slow and small. If you're not skipping every other pogo target, you're not pogoing beast correctly.

Father of the flame, I was pogoing back and forth between the top two lanterns, dodging flame attacks, until they both went down.

[thick urchin]

It is done. People ragequit over this?

...and they guy isnt giving me his song!

[elfin ravine]

Presumably because you haven't done Dancers yet

[dreamy scarab]

I wonder how many people go in without ||Shakra's help||

[elfin ravine]

A lot probably

[hoary tulip]

it is MUCH easier as a tag team match

[elfin ravine]

She does help a lot yeah

[rose granite]

Yeah, talked about it before but fights like these in pretty much any game come down to largely two things; Damage and/or Crowd Control. Since Silksong doesn't really have much CC, it's generally a damage thing.

You see the same thing happen with pretty much all the summon fights in the game, with ||raging conchfly being a technical exception||, where if you can't kill the summoned adds quickly, chances are the fight is going to be a lot harder.

[dreamy scarab]

Every time ||conchfly|| comes up I wonder if I got extremely lucky or what, because it really didn't seem that bad

[inland wave]

Wait, ||Shakra appears for that? I had Garmond and Zaza assist me.. neat!||

[thick urchin]

Is there a hotkey to clip footage in windows/steam?

Couldnt quite get "Proof of Sands completion" on screen as well, other than just in the toolbar. But prove of Father of the Flame, First sinner, (most of) High Halls, all in the Cogwork Dancer arena.

[rose granite]

To be clear I did bring it up as a positive example in this case.

IE an exception to the rule.

[thick urchin]

Was I supposed to kill the adds? I focused mainly on the boss unless I needed rage healing.

||Beastfly|| adds were a much bigger problem.

[rose granite]

The typical issue fights with multiple adds tend to have is when they act independent of one another such that their attack cycles get out of sync or overlap, leading to chaotic patterns you can't easily predict. This is why the strategies for dealing with such scenarios are typically centred around preventing them from becoming chaotic, which can be done through herding, Crowd Control, or plain ol' killing most of them. Since Silksong doesn't necessarily have great crowd control, you are typically looking at killing any spawned adds as quickly as possible as to prevent chaos. If you can the fights are really easy, if you can't they are oft very hard.

There is some further nuance to it, such as how enemies who exert a lot of area denial but have predictable patterns are easy on their own but hard in groups (this video is a good example of that funnily enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ath7hdPTmmM), but that is the general gist.

||Conchfly/flies|| and Cogwork Dancers are exceptions to the rule since whilst they do present you with multiple foes, they are synchronised in their attacks meaning you do not have to deal with the struggle of asynchronous, overlapping attack patterns.

[rose granite]

Again, to be clear, I mentioned that boss as an example of a fight where the adds work out fine and aren't a hassle.

Like that is the point I'm making, that they weren't a major issue.

[thick urchin]

It sounded like they were supposed to be an example of "Kill the adds or your going to have trouble."

[rose granite]

I'll admit I don't know how to make it clearer that they were an exception to the rule than saying that they were an exception.

[thick urchin]

More that it seems to say the EXCEPTION is that you have to kill the ads now.

[rose granite]

That's why I put it as an apposition, as extra but not necessary information which acknowledges that there are some summon fights where summons don't cause the chaos I was otherwise talking about. Could've put it in parentheses, but eh.

[brave flower]

personally i feel like the intro to that kind of fight, sister splinter, does a great job of teaching you how to handle them

splinter herself is very easy to dodge, so you want to use silk to keep the arena clear of bullshit

[rose granite]

The easiest strategy in Sister Splinter is admittedly to just spawn camp them.

Which goes hand in hand with the prior point about it being about bursting down any adds that spawn if you can, since trying to deal with them alongside the boss gets more and more difficult the longer the adds are alive.

[warm wraith]

Me T-T

[autumn kettle]

it's not very hard if you go and grab needle 4 first

but if you don't finish the gourmet quest, it's daunting

[vagrant spruce]

for steam, yeah there is, but iirc its not enabled by default. if you have the drive space, you can also configure steam to straight up save the last X minutes (up to like 2-4 hours iirc) of gameplay footage at a time to go back and clip later

id personally recommend just setting it to save the last ~15 automatically, thats generally enough to grab swag moments

[hollow elm]

I had ||G&Z instead, from roaming Citadel a lot||.

[south marten]

You can't even get Needle 4 before ||Act 3|| though?

[autumn kettle]

4 not 5

[south marten]

But there's only 4 upgrades. The highest you can get by then is Nail 3.

Needle*

[autumn kettle]

yes, 1 + 4 = 5

there is also literally a needle 0 (no needle) in silksong

i.e. the slab

[south marten]

But that's not Needle 0, that's No Needle

Nail 0 is no upgrades, so Needle 0 is no upgrades

[autumn kettle]

unforchies, people being unable to count is not my problem

[south marten]

Because it's a +0 weapon

[autumn kettle]

when you have 0 of something

you don't have it

there is a "has 0 needle" upgrade level in silksong

there is also has an unupgraded needle level

which is 1 (the base)

[south marten]

Okay so I get what you're saying here

But it's a +0 weapon, and then you can upgrade it to +4, which is how soulslike works

[autumn kettle]

sure, and if a + was ever anywhere in the discussions, that would make it justifiable

it is not

[south marten]

Consider that that's simply how the weapon upgrades in Hollow Knight have been for seven years

Base the naming convention on the existing convention

[autumn kettle]

but there's also straight up a new 0-tier upgrade level

people can be as wrong as they want

[south marten]

But that's not an upgrade level, that's not having a weapon

[autumn kettle]

correct, level 0

[south marten]

Y'know what, this isn't productive. If you're just gonna keep insulting me for not agreeing with you, I'm gonna dip.

[autumn kettle]

i wasn't attempting to insult you, but i agree, this has not been in any way productive and would not if it continued

[rose granite]

Feel ya, but we persevere lol

[thick urchin]

...anyway, I've got two pieces of the melody now (top of the tower, and high halls that I already did the gauntlet for) and am heading into Whispering Vaults now. Upper Cogwork Core was interesting- there's clearly a grapple hook platforming puzzle, but also, you can literally just pogo up the gears.

[rose granite]

The upper core is pain without double jump, but quite fun otherwise. If you're good at pogo jumps though I can see it being enjoyable even without the cloak, since the parts that a lack of double jump make difficult are also the parts where pogoing is important.

[thick urchin]

I went in with pogos AND double jump

[rose granite]

Yeah at that point it's quite the nice experience.

[sinful stirrup]

It's very doable with just clawline

[rose granite]

Definitely, I just struggled when I ascended using only clawline.

[thick urchin]

I find it amusing looking at streamers that take one look at beast crest, "slashes, lifesteal on bind, ok, ok... pogo... AW HELL NO."
It's actually too powerful for them to wrap their minds around, so they call it "awkward" as they try and force it into the same box as the weak-butt wanderer and reaper pogos.

[warm wraith]

I like reaper pogo…

[thick urchin]

Please keep all nails contained within the ride until the character has come to a complete stop...

[tulip nest]

I really haven't bothered with the other crests

Except for flea games

[rose granite]

Reaper is nice.

Though the double boss video (which I'm very tempted to download that mod once it's complete) did give me a lot of respect for wanderer.

The faster attack speed proved necessary for double bosses by virtue of how small the damage windows there were.

[warm wraith]

Mmm makes sense

I can’t switch off reaper I feel like lmao, I’m so used to it

[thick urchin]

The biggest thing for adapting to Beast Crest is Expanding your Awareness. You can hit something halfway to the edge of the screen, but if it gets too close before you push the button, it's gonna hurt.

I probably wouldnt use it for hyper-precise modded boss challanges, but as a 40 year old who's starting to slow down, it's fun to faceroll with.

[safe yew]

i find that beast crest has a hard time justifying itself for me, between the down-air going sideways and the lack of blue tool slots - that's likely an artifact of how i tend to play, though

[rose granite]

The down-air is good if you become comfortable with it, though lacking blue tools is a bit of a bigger hindrance. I don't think it's a surprising coincidence that the most popular build I see on Beast is Flintslate plus fleabrew, which is fairly independent of blue tools and lets you focus on the damage.

[autumn kettle]

you shouldn't go flea brew

the as increase doesn't stack

[thick urchin]

Flea brew doesnt stack attack speed with the rage, but it gives rage attack speed outside of rage.

also movespeed

[autumn kettle]

yeah, but clawline solves the movespeed bit

so you're better off jamming wheels or smth

[thick urchin]

Beast doesnt need help closing the distance. It needs help OPENING it.

[autumn kettle]

clawline works for that too tho

[thick urchin]

...personally, I never use clawline in combat. Maybe it's because I'm not a good enough player that I'm hanging on every scrap of silk for the next rage. Or maybe it's the startup lag.

[autumn kettle]

i highly suggest trying to change that

it's a crazy strong tool

[hollow elm]

Clawline refunds if it hits an enemy

[thick urchin]

Oh, I use it for platforming. But boss fights are in areas too small to need it.

Airdash has a faster startup.

[autumn kettle]

you can use both!

dash -> harpoon or harpoon -> dash

[thick urchin]

I dont need to go that far! Walljump dash pogo dash walljump.

As I said, boss arenas are SMALL for beast crest.

[autumn kettle]

wall jumping in boss fights?

i'm rarely outside of center-stage

[warm wraith]

act 3 ||64/66 score for flea dodge.........gdi||

[autumn kettle]

oof

i've hit par exactly

which doesn't count as a victory

got ||30 for juggle||

[warm wraith]

did ||pogo just fine, dreading juggle a bit lol, what crest is best for that one? reaper is prolly too inconsistent||

[autumn kettle]

||shaman||

||i've tried wanderer, reaper, witch, and shaman||

||shaman is far and away the most generous for it||

[elfin ravine]

I used Hunter personally

[thick urchin]

I can wall jumt to pogo center stage and return to the wall without touching the ground, usually. And that's without clawshot

[autumn kettle]

that sounds like a lot more time than i'd like to spend not hitting the boss ngl

maybe the movement is faster than i'm envisioning it, but

i play beast to slam my face into their face into the sawblades i'm cosplaying grind them into huntress food

[thick urchin]

Oh, I've probably got shitty DPS, but it's fun.

the idea is to safely farm up enough silk for the next rage, and the pogo is VERY safe.

[rose granite]

||You can do it with pretty much every one, but shaman is what I used and would wager is the easiest.||

[thick urchin]

...Hivesteel Needle Aquired.

[thick urchin]

And I found the twisted bud. Already had what I thought was the cure marked on the map, so I knocked out the witch crest real quick. Back on Beast now.

[warm wraith]

yay last pale oil obtained

[autumn kettle]

nice

[rotund magnet]

wait shakra can help you in that fight?

[tulip nest]

Down to the last few bosses, still adamant that act 2 is stronger than 3, though it's kinda hard to do a strong act 3 in a game that goes on like this

Definitely feels like I'm just checking boxes now, but the boxes themselves are well designed, so it's fun

[warm wraith]

Agree so far

I can’t remember where I’ve picked up masks or spools from so I’m gonna have to just go and check every location,,,

[elfin ravine]

I did also overall enjoy act 2 more I think

[rose granite]

I suspect that's a fairly common take. Whilst I enjoyed Act 3 a lot, Act 1 and even moreso Act 2 felt stronger to me personally, in part because there were just more, novel areas to explore.

Still an overall fun final act, and good conclusion

[vernal stone]

Act 3 mostly had new challenges rather than new explorable areas which is fine but I like exploring

That said personally i was really hitting some fatigue before I rolled credits so I'm not sure if I woukd want a longer third act either

[rose granite]

Fatigue was definitely setting in for me too, though I think that was partially due to at the start of act 3 having unlocked most of the play-style defining abilities already (there's no shade cloak for example) coupled with the more refreshing¹ areas being limited in scope ||since I think the dreams all represented areas cut in scope to various degrees, at least with Coral Forest and the Ant Kingdom since we did see some parts of them in trailers that didn't make the final cut.||

¹Refreshing in that they add some contrast to the rest of Act 3 and shake things up.

Overall though I think Act 2 was the high point for me, but act 3 remained solid with strong moments.

[thick urchin]

Finished Trobio and the melody, reached Lace 2. Who is kicking my butt. I've reached phase 2, but it's not a consistant thing.

Also I realized I missed a second silkheart, so I tracked down ||the Unraveled|| by looking at a map.

[tulip nest]

Yeah I've really enjoyed the designs, but the areas are very limited

Not that I'm really complaining after like, 40+ hours or whatever

[rose granite]

Ye, it's one of those things where I can understand why some areas got cut (scope creep, changes in overall design, etc), but it's a bit of a shame.

Still nice though.

[warm wraith]

Chat should I go for 100% completion or keep my sanity

[elfin ravine]

what are you missing still?

100% is overall not that bad IMO

[warm wraith]

I don’t have completion checker yet

[vagrant spruce]

100% completion really isn't bad in this game, since its just a collectathon for the last ~15% no matter what you do

[elfin ravine]

the most annoying part is just hunting down which shards or spools you missed

[autumn kettle]

100% is deceptively simple in silksong

[warm wraith]

Hit it

[autumn kettle]

because a lot of content isn't %

[elfin ravine]

the vast majority of completion is just tools

[vagrant spruce]

ah, no point if you don't have the completion checker - you can't get 100% until then, i think. or at least don't bother trying

[elfin ravine]

and then also masks and spools

[rose granite]

100% completion isn't 100% of the game. It's pretty much just the tools plus some other things.

[vagrant spruce]

wait until you hit the point where you actually do get the completion checker (in this game, i'ts called the 'farsight' fwiw, the actual item pickup blurb is a little deceiving)

[elfin ravine]

most of the really optional stuff is mementos, which don't count for completion

[rose granite]

For reference if you're curious about what counts towards completion ||https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1ng54do/list_of_requirements_to_get_100_completion/||

[vagrant spruce]

the bottom line is that unsurprisingly, its not possible to get 100% until you're at least a decent chunk into act 3, and nothing is missable. after that, you can just look up where the last mask/spool/tool/craftmetal (for tools) are if you still haven't found em

[rose granite]

It's kinda funny that the majority ||51%|| of the completion rate in the game is just tools.

[elfin ravine]

yeah

it's kinda weird to me

[rose granite]

Not wanting to do decimals I assume, but ye.

[autumn kettle]

i'm kind of torn, because on the one hand i'm glad that 100% is so straightforward

[vagrant spruce]

it makes sense, i think. easier to lock the % to only unmissable things, and it makes sense that they don't want "100% of the game" to include the achievements hard enough to preclude some players from finishing them (like some of the mementos, mostly ||surface|| & ||guardian||)

[autumn kettle]

but on the other hand, i wish it was more representative of overall completion

[vagrant spruce]

i think they care more about making the game "100%"able by anybody no matter what choices/skill you have, rather than actually requiring you exhaust everything in the game. coming from somebody who 100%'d a yakuza game for fun once, im very sympathetic to their decision LOL

[elfin ravine]

mementos not counting I think is fine

[autumn kettle]

i'd also call ||nuu's memento|| a possible pain point

[elfin ravine]

it's mostly that bosses, wishes, and a bunch of other stuff just don't count into it at all feels... weird

[vagrant spruce]

it would be kinda nice if there was an in-game tracker for wish%, but since some wishes are missable that makes sense

[rose granite]

I don't think it's in any way intuitive without prior information, since it's a list of unique items and doesn't count any individual upgrades for example ||meaning Fay down doesn't count, nor Druid's eyes||, but it makes sense why Team Cherry would do it this way to keep it simple for themselves.

[vagrant spruce]

yeah i think re upgrade it's mostly odd that ||float / faydown|| doesn't count. i understand its self consistent right now, but i don't understand what made them decide to implement it like that

[elfin ravine]

cloak in general doesn't count IIRC

[vagrant spruce]

the other individual upgrades im less confused about, but that one is mildly surprising to me

[autumn kettle]

i think it's probably a result of the massive tool count

and they went backward

[vagrant spruce]

yeah, fair enough topple

[rose granite]

It's very clean from a dev POV so I think the decision to do it this way makes sense, even if it looks weird and isn't one I think is really representative of 100%ing the game.

[vagrant spruce]

it's not any cleaner than tracking it, really. i've looked at the silksong code for bingo purposes, it would not have been any extra effort to track cloak et. al. as a % lol

[autumn kettle]

i def suspect that they'd have made like, a couple important wishes (or the cloak upgrades) % if there were 48 or 49 tools

or maybe they had an idea of "we want tools to be %, and we want [x and y other things] to be %"

and then backfilled the last couple % with more tools when they were done?

[vagrant spruce]

if they'd obliterated ||wispfire lantern|| we would have had float as a %....

[rose granite]

Agree there, they mostly seem to have wanted to keep it as whole numbers without any decimals.

[autumn kettle]

lmfao

poor ||lantern||

[vagrant spruce]

(i like that tool, to be clear, thematically - it looks great and i wish i could run it wholeheartedly. but it's balls and we all know it)

[rose granite]

Think it got a buff not too long ago to be okay, but eh not really my jam either way.

[autumn kettle]

even worse than ||glowing womb||

[vagrant spruce]

i tested it on the last patch when bingus testing and the tracking is still horrible

which is feelsbad enough to make me not want to use it :/

[autumn kettle]

i wonder if they'll ever do a total rework of it?

[elfin ravine]

at least the damage isn't as bad anymore, but still not great yeah

[autumn kettle]

since it, and its equivalents in HK1, are pretty poor

[rose granite]

Admittedly one of those tools where I'd be fine with installing some mod to just remove the silk cost and not worry too much more.

[autumn kettle]

honestly

i'd be interested if they like

[vagrant spruce]

yeah, it still comes out to "less than 1 nail hit" 95% of the time, tho

lol

[autumn kettle]

played with the "alternate bind inputs" that we know they can do

because architect has up bind, so what if they made ||wispfire lantern|| a tool that adds a down bind

to do new things?

[vagrant spruce]

ah, that'd have been neat

||spend soul to spawn a bunch of homing fire orbs or smth||

[autumn kettle]

||homing orbs immediately, or maybe a buff that spawns a pale nail-esque projectile once every couple of seconds||

||like a spooled-out dark souls homing soulmass||

||to fit with the way the wisp lantern enemies also spawn their doom babies every couple seconds||

||alternatively, just giving them detonations like the enemies would also help a lot, since you wouldn't need tracking there||

[thick urchin]

They buffed it, it's decent now.

[warm wraith]

Ugh I love ||pale nails||

Go to tools are ||cogflies and sting shard tho||

I wish I used ||poison pollip|| more but ||reserve bind|| is <3

And ||fractured mask + warding bell||

[brave flower]

tbf ||pollip|| falls off really hard

[warm wraith]

Mmm that’s a shame

[hot mango]

So how we feeling about being able to throw the Flea Brew Bottle?

[autumn kettle]

as a thing that cherry already added, or as a theoretical addition? because either way, that'd be neat

but only if hornet has to sheepishly go back to the fleas and explain that she smashed the bottle after chugging it all

they'll understand and be perfectly fine with it, but she would be super awkward about it

[elfin ravine]

it's in the game

[autumn kettle]

nice

is that something i just straight up never noticed?

[elfin ravine]

if you use the bottle while out of charges IIRC

[autumn kettle]

or was it a change from the new update

[elfin ravine]

it throws it as a projectile that does like 3 damage

[hoary tulip]

Is the empty bottle just a last resort throwable weapon or what

[fervent sand]

Yuh

[warm wraith]

Oh that’s funny

[thick urchin]

Lace 2 down! ||Wisplantern + cogflies/Plasmium, because landing beast heals is almost impossible. Phase 1 nail only, phase 2 start popping cogflies, phase 3 (if I reach it) start using Plasmium to stall for the win with the wisp and flies handle the risky stuff.||

[warm wraith]

Woo

[thick urchin]

wow. Bench after victory. NOTHING left.

[thick urchin]

Any advise for reaching this last flea? the path up from below is blocked off by crossbars.

[thick urchin]

..found it eventually.

[proud cobalt]

I looked it up and was like 'Oh that's complicated.'

[autumn kettle]

close

[thick urchin]

I'm confident I'm where I should be for Crests ||(Shaman)||, Skills ||Silk Soar||, Maps ||var act 3 areas||, and shards ||exactly one mask in act 3||, what I'm wondering about is tools.

Is there 2 Act 3 Only tools?

[autumn kettle]

uhhhhh

i don't think so?

there's one i can think of

||the pin badge||

[thick urchin]

Looks like the other is a quest I need to run around for a bit before it will show to me. ||Reserve bind||

[warm wraith]

Beloved!!!!

[thick urchin]

||Reserve bind|| Aquired

[warm wraith]

Fuck yeah

[proud cobalt]

I've pointed it out before but I'll do it again, notice how Vessel's Charms are usually magical compared to Hornet's Tools being mechanical (Yes I know they both have overlap)? I think that's neat.

[thick urchin]

Eh, Vessel just doesnt have Red tools. He's got 3 silk slots instead.

[proud cobalt]

I guess?

[thick urchin]

Blue tools, in particular, are magic as hell.

[proud cobalt]

I'd say while Blue has the most magic tools (Silk counts as magic, right?), it also has plenty of actually physical tools that make sense. Like poison.

[thick urchin]

Making potions you drink also exude a dangerous level of BO, while at the same time poisoning every tool, including magic silk guns, seems fairly magic to me.

[proud cobalt]

Ok it does have alot of silk based tools in Blue.

[proud cobalt]

I still argue it's literally just a sack of poison.

I mean you can see the potions are a different color so it's been tampered with.

[thick urchin]

Bad ending (I have what I need for Act 3, I just didnt use it)

[proud cobalt]

Fair enough.

[thick urchin]

Steam says 98 hours played

[proud cobalt]

Magic.

Still, Blue does have fully non-magic tools, it's just there are some things that can be either way depending on how you argue, like ||Fractured Mask||.

[thick urchin]

...Starting act 3, they force you into Hunter crest, and I need to fight an arena before they let me change D:

[autumn kettle]

dw it's a short arena

it is odd that they put you back into hunter, though

probably something to do with coding limitations

based on the way they do the intro

[hollow elm]

Notably with (Act 2 tool) ||Voltvessels (spike), it only affects the direct-hit spiked bit||.

[proud cobalt]

OOooh, you mean with poison, I was so confused and trying to figure out what you meant.

[dreamy scarab]

I figured it was thematic: hornet's default state is hunter with no tools, so if she's exhausted or in jail or incapacitated then that's what she uses

[thick urchin]

Rune rage is amazingly effective against ||Bell Eater||. With silk hearts, I hardly needed to get into combat at all.

[autumn kettle]

reasonable and also plausible!

[thick urchin]

Apparently she even needs to re-evolve the hunter crest!

Currently in the ||Abyss||

[thick urchin]

Almost had the ||Abyss escape||, but I clipped some spikes on the way up.

[autumn kettle]

||how are you liking it? I love that there are two fucking metroid escape sequences in silksong||

[thick urchin]

Beast crest is not what this escape sequence was designed for. ||No enemies until you get to the part you're expected to clawshot to enemies, and very little actual pogoing. So no healing and no downslash. Ant the part I thought was an escape was just the first large room. Managed to get out finally, though.||

[safe yew]

doing a second skong run. just entered act 2, took the alternate route

[warm wraith]

The ||whiteward silkheart|| is still avalible in act 3 right

[safe yew]

yea

[rose granite]

Technically a late-game spoiler, but absolutely adorable ||https://youtube.com/shorts/xiT1BcdIhzM?si=JyCQ4wFfcOI0WO7m||

[warm wraith]

beat ||crawlord first try.. cosmetic..||

[dreamy scarab]

but also ||passive income||

...||at a point in the game where money may have lost all meaning||

[proud cobalt]

There's so much in this game I still don't know, that's great.

[warm wraith]

Ooh is That what the bell does? Noted
Maybe it’ll be helpful still lmao,,?

[elfin ravine]

||yes, it periodically gives shards and rosaries at your house||

[warm wraith]

Mhm cool

Think there’s still stuff from the blasted steps merchant I’m missing? So

[thick urchin]

So I remembered that a thing was possible in a certian place and decided to try it...

[thick urchin]

Even ||dream drugs|| arnt getting me past the second arena this early, though,

[thorny bear]

concept of hornet's appearance:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/1nfqa46/hornet_without_a_mask/

[autumn kettle]

that massive haircut is cute

[thorny bear]

also

TIL the flea quest has a different ending if you get every flea before you fight the Clockwork Dancers

[hoary tulip]

enough silkposts

[thorny bear]

hm?

I think posting Silksong Easter eggs in the Silksong channel is reasonable

[hoary tulip]

did you perhaps get this off the subreddit

[thorny bear]

no, it's from my uncle who works at team cherry

trust

[tulip nest]

unrelated but this game made me respect elder hu more

even if he is a dogshit boss

[rose granite]

Good, you are supposed to respect your elders

Or kill them, unsure which one it is.

[autumn kettle]

||https://bsky.app/profile/anthonylegua1.bsky.social/post/3m2yxxxi7fc2b||

ANThony(COMMS OPEN) (@anthonylegua1.bsky.social)

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Bluesky · Oct 12, 2025, 3:05 PM

spoilers for the whole game

[dreamy scarab]

can't wait for the Cat's in the Cradle AMVs

[thick urchin]

Impossibru! Cannot be done! I SHOULD KNOW

[rose granite]

Their friendship continues. Artist https://pizza990.carrd.co/

[proud cobalt]

Lol.

[warm wraith]

beat skong~

few loose ends for 100%

[proud cobalt]

Hey, Loose Ends are bad, that's how we get Unraveled.

[warm wraith]

LOL

[proud cobalt]

There's Steel Soul mode.

[warm wraith]

true but I think steel soul is too hard for me lol

[warm wraith]

anyone have tips for ||tormented trobbio?||

[thick urchin]

I'm still stuck at the crab kingdom multigauntlet.

[dreamy scarab]

same. ||I could technically skip it, what with Verdania, but. completionism...||

[thick urchin]

I've gotten past the last wave of he second gauntlet exactly once.

[hollow elm]

It's a lot like pulling apart Trial of the Fool, there's a lot to learn.

[tulip nest]

It's Trobbio but more. Use clawline to reach him, don't be afraid to use your tools, watch your positioning

[hoary tulip]

Bat the bouncy balls away if they get close

[warm wraith]

did it~

trying to find the. last mask fragment.

[tulip nest]

In the game?

||Gilly|| has one for a quest reward that people miss

[warm wraith]

got that one

just gotta backtrack to every location i couldve missed one

[tulip nest]

If you don't mind spoilers there's a completion site

You slot your save in and it just tells you which one you missed

[warm wraith]

oh sick yeah

[proud cobalt]

That’s cool.

[tulip nest]

https://silksong-completionist.com/

[warm wraith]

||the whispering vaults one, could swear id done it lol||

yippee 100%

think ill save some content for whenever silksong gets a content update, ||cursed crest ending, mushroom ending, nyleth||

various mementos

[proud cobalt]

Fair enough.

[safe yew]

first playthrough i caved and installed no double damage for last judge and onward, so i've been doing an unmodded second playthrough. i've definitely gotten better at the game

[tulip nest]

Sumwann, wonderful (lady?) that she is, has done it again

and compiled all the silksong sprites into organized folders to download

[hot mango]

Okay DLC Theory: ||Moss Druid will be involved somehow. Why? Because all her Mossberry Dialogue references the Heart Memories, as well as her Needolin Dialogue. She could very well be the memory required to access the boss Rush, or open the way to a new memory. Probably less Godmaster and more Hidden Dreams DLC||

[dreamy scarab]

Or ||Moss druid is there and it's a cooking game||

[modern fossil]

||Nu and Mossdruid team up to create the world's greatest cookbook||

[fervent sand]

I'd be there for that

Opposite of the fleabrew, slows you down and makes you tougher

[hidden flame]

||It's all rasher quests, simultaneously, Overcooked style||

[fervent sand]

No fear I did the ||mask lacquer delivery||

[autumn kettle]

damn, i never got around to that one

it seemed super tricky and i got hyperfixated on achievement things instead

how long did it take you?

[fervent sand]

I also kicked Overcooked 2 in the ass with my best friend and we are still friends after that

I think it was my second try. Did a bunch of deliveries in a row and was locked in by the time I was on that.

It helped I climbed it recently for the tool form at the top

[autumn kettle]

phenomenal, nice

[fervent sand]

God though, multi player deliveries where you get a delivery halfway through in whatever state the last person had it in

[hidden flame]

No, no

You can just have several running at once, and they can have multiple stages

[autumn kettle]

waow

[wanton bone]

Also Reaper’s uppercut is a grim move.

[autumn kettle]

TRUE

wanderer dash into reaper dash is like, exactly grimm's dash

er, dash attacks

[brave flower]

consider: architect pogo

[autumn kettle]

yeah, also a grimm move

[forest jasper]

I've noticed that in Silksong, the three ||Melodies|| you need to learn each correspond to one of the three main pillars of Metroidvania gameplay
The H||igh|| H||alls|| correspond to combat: ||At the end of the area is a long, brutal arena with two minibosses.||
The C||ogwork|| C||ore|| corresponds to platforming: ||The entire area is a difficult platforming challenge.||
The W||hispering|| V||aults|| correspond to exploration: ||It's the largest of the three areas, and you have to make your way through most of it to find the psalm cylinder.||

[hoary tulip]

it does seem that way, yeah

[tacit wadi]

I honestly found the ||High Halls Gauntlet|| fairly easy

though I also always struggled with platforming more than combat

[tulip nest]

I am also the same

I'm bad at precision platforming

[rotund magnet]

I found high halls to be brutal

vault was super easy and cogwork core was tough but did it without death

[warm wraith]

same, high halls sucked but i did it without maxed nail i think so

[rose granite]

Yeah, it's more of a gear check than most other fights.

[forest jasper]

High Halls was (or rather, is; I still haven't completed it) brutal

Cogwork Core was super fun

Whispering Vaults was whatever

The existence of Broodmother implies that The Slab is a giant family business

[autumn kettle]

it is

that's not an implication, the jailers are just the fly species

[forest jasper]

no, a literal family

[autumn kettle]

because the broodmother was a "sinner"

[forest jasper]

that's rude

[elfin ravine]

they were exiled to the Slab for some past transgression themselves

[forest jasper]

forever?