THE SILKSONG IS REAL

[inland wave]

y'all need to specify like, which act a spoiler is in, or somethin

[formal zenith]

well i guess i'll just try this fight again tomorrow

[hollow elm]

I've been fiending after learning (Act 1) ||Wanderer Crest swings fast enough to clash a full 3-hit combo||.

[formal zenith]

if every boss is gonna be this much of a slog from now on idk if i'm gonna get through the whole game

[hollow elm]

Silksong bosses have a more defined attack string/opening pattern to them, and you're quite low on equipment compared to when I beat it.

Staying alive, and fighting off the ||flying bugs|| got me more than the boss.

[formal zenith]

what annoys me about ||sister splinter|| is that her attack pattern is extremely simple but ||the minions just completely throw a wrench into your rhythm||

[safe yew]

my current wall isn't a wall so much as a moat (act 1; tail end i think): ||i simply cannot work up the motivation to try to beat the last judge when i have to runback through at least a fourth of the blasted steps every time i die. what is team cherry's motivation here||

[formal zenith]

so phase 1 becomes really tedious and then phases 2 and after just have an absurd difficulty spike

[formal zenith]

oh no.... please tell me that's not worse than the ||moorwing|| runback

[safe yew]

||it's not even the boss itself, it's the runback||

[hollow elm]

(Act 1, tail end, exploration) ||The runback is less taxing if you get the platforming down, but it's pretty unplesant in general I think.|| ||I've heard there's another way around the boss instead.||

[inland wave]

That said: i do hope that boss chokes on blood

||The spin has far too fucking little of a windup||

||especially for a Full Screen Except A Circle||

[safe yew]

||it's not just the platforming, it's the enemies. i've also heard of the other way; however, the other way makes deepnest look welcoming. i've made little headway there||

[inland wave]

'The jump attack is a downward diagonal? Let's make every other enemy hover perpendicular to that'

[autumn kettle]

WHAT THE FUCK

GOD I'M SAYING THAT SO MUCH

TEAM CHERRY

YOU'VE COOKED SO HARD

YOU'VE COOKED SO HARD

[brave flower]

is that not just the ||ouppy||

is there a ||second ouppy||

[autumn kettle]

N O P E

[brave flower]

what is it

[inland wave]

ok nobody click anything in that conversation

[autumn kettle]

not spoiling it lmao

[inland wave]

someone's at endgame lmao

[hollow elm]

I really don't like the lack of anti-air options (in Act 1 at least), have mostly relied on ||Sting Shard's AoE||, or ||Longpin's upwards arc|| to soften fliers.

[brave flower]

||OUPPIES!!!||

[thorny bear]

ok so is there a map of the ||slab|| anywhere

i have whacked every square inch of every wall available, and can't find any other entrances to the area

and i cannot find any progress anywhere

[prisma pewter]

yo the ||raging conchfly|| runback is

something

[autumn kettle]

yeah

i don't remember where unfortunately, but

there is one

in like a secret side room

[prisma pewter]

its in the ||northern side of the area|| so if you havent gotten there you wont be able to find it

[somber smelt]

I've spent the last two hours fighting ||moorwing||

send help

[thorny bear]

could i please have some indication on how to get there

[modern fossil]

Has anyone else made it into the shaking room ||to the right of the toll bench in far fields? I made it into there and tried opening the door for the giant beetle inside and now it's simply disappeared after I died to it||

||which like yeah it was trying to get out but I was kinda expecting a reward of sorts lol||

||or to at least know where the beetle went||

[inner fog]

(Endgame spoilers) God, I cannot wait to start piecing together the lore behind ||the mother||

(seriously, final boss stuff) because like, they also appear to be ||a silk construct??||

[elfin ravine]

someone please confirm to me if I can finish ||Mount Fay|| with only ||the grapple, or if I'm missing an ability here||

[thorny bear]

you're meant to do it now

[elfin ravine]

there is a bit through some spikes that I'm not sure how I'm supposed to do

[autumn kettle]

ah, i found one of my missing memory lockets

[autumn kettle]

||grand mother silk?||

[elfin ravine]

pause screen covering things up unfortunately, but can't get a snip otherwise

wait I'm stupid

I can just grapple through

[autumn kettle]

i've done that many times myself

"ah shit i need cdash, where's that?"

"wait right i have a fucking harpoon"

[elfin ravine]

I keep forgetting I can just harpoon onto thin air

[inner fog]

oh shit I almost forgot

The seal of binding in the Weaver Den from the first game

still don’t know wtf it means

[autumn kettle]

oh jesus

six more?

ig that includes yellows and blues

but still

[autumn kettle]

i wonder if it has something to do with ||the pale king and the first sinner||

||the latter of which may have taught the former runecraft?||

||or possibly the other way around? or some bullshit||

[inner fog]

Yeah! That was the first thing to come to mind!

[autumn kettle]

||since the first sinner (and her silk skill) use the fucking pure vessel's rune bomb||

[inner fog]

||Since silk runes are a lost art||

[autumn kettle]

yeah

||i'm almost positive that her art and the king have a direct link in some way||

||whether that be her teaching him, him teaching her, collaboration on the magecraft, or her disciples that fled to hallownest teaching the king||

[inner fog]

||Could be something else though, considering the massive implications alone of being the “first sinner”||

[autumn kettle]

||yeah, it probably has something to do with the weavers' "betrayal" of the grand mother||

course

i'm getting into some act 3 tomfuckery

that seems to be unveiling some of this

[brave flower]

is act 3 ||post final boss?||

[inner fog]

||or creation? Still can’t get out of my head that she’s by all appearances, a construct like lace and phantom||

[prisma pewter]

man doing ||couriers rasher|| gave me a rush

[thorny bear]

could i at least have a hint on how to get to the north part of ||slab||

[autumn kettle]

[autumn kettle]

sorry, which north part?

that's probably a frustrating question, but

there are a few things i think you could mean by that

[inner fog]

soyjak pointing as I see this

[autumn kettle]

act 3 is just

made of lore

[thorny bear]

i only have a few rooms of the area available to me, and drakonix said the map is in the northern side

[autumn kettle]

||DREAMNAIL PART TWO||

[thorny bear]

basically just how to get to any part of ||slab|| besides the travel station and the bit immediately connecting the mountain to the citadel

[autumn kettle]

posting this so i remember it for later, i'm dead fucking certain this is true ending-related

[autumn kettle]

lemme head back in so i can try to figure it out

[thorny bear]

if you don't remember it's fine

I just can't figure out what else is left to try, and no one else seemed to have trouble accessing the area

[autumn kettle]

for clarity, is this a ||kidnapping slab journey or a from-citadel one?||

okay

for the map

do you know where the bench is?

[thorny bear]

at the travel station?

[autumn kettle]

nah, the other one

[thorny bear]

no

[autumn kettle]

hm

[prisma pewter]

do u have the ||apostate key||?

[autumn kettle]

this question is relevant i think

[autumn kettle]

no they don't lmfao they're still trying to clear the first run

[prisma pewter]

im pretty sure you can only get the map after the key, no?

[autumn kettle]

no???

[thorny bear]

I have the travel station, the room above it, and some rooms to the right of that connecting to the citadel, and a little bit of the gated off area of the mountain

and have checked every inch of those areas and can't find a way to get to another bench

I feel so dumb but I don't know what I could be missing

[autumn kettle]

okay i'm going to ping this a third time

||did you walk in from the citadel or get kidnapped?||

[thorny bear]

i have not been ||kidnapped||

[autumn kettle]

okay, i think that's it then

||i'm pretty sure you need the third key to get to the first two if you didn't yahar'gul yourself in deep docks||

||and the third (apostate) key is post-bilewater||

[elfin ravine]

||Mountain ascended, wings gotten ||

[autumn kettle]

fucking nice

||god i love that zone||

[elfin ravine]

||didn't expect it to akso protect you from the cold ||

[autumn kettle]

||it's so incredibly fun||

||it's downy wings!||

[elfin ravine]

Yeah it makes sense

[prisma pewter]

i got that key before the other 2

i think i was being stupid and missed smthn until i opened the ||apostate||

[elfin ravine]

Guess I can also go explore ||Bilewater|| now

And a bunch of places really

Should probably start looking for the oil stuff too

[brave flower]

im a lil lost

[prisma pewter]

||wailing broodmother|| is a PITA

[autumn kettle]

ooh

[brave flower]

mainly, where is the ||dash||

[brave flower]

||SANS CHARM RETURNS||

[hidden flame]

Send me your map, I tell thee

[hoary tulip]

okay

I need a question answered

does getting hit when you're doing the timed courier mission make the clock permanently speed up

because this feels IMPOSSIBLE

[thorny bear]

thanks for the advice, i decided to do main quest for now

beat ||lace 2|| fourth try. the ||bug drone|| tool is so good against that boss, since they trigger the parries

also this is actually some really solid hollow knight lore imo

[thorny bear]

it was always kinda ambiguous whether Knight was sentient and felt emotion, it's cool to know it did

[hoary tulip]

seriously has anyone here done the courier's rasher

[autumn kettle]

yeah

[hoary tulip]

I need help

this timer feels impossibly tight

[hidden flame]

So the first two endings are ultimately futile?

[autumn kettle]

do you have the ||grand gate shortcut?||

[hoary tulip]

||the one in the top right of Grand Gate into Choral Chambers?||

[autumn kettle]

yep

and do you have ||wings?||

[hoary tulip]

yeah

[autumn kettle]

then just gotta run

[hoary tulip]

I even have the ||speed anklets||

this shit is fucked, I'm getting to Grand Gate with like a quarter of the timer left

[autumn kettle]

huh

you're taking damage?

[hoary tulip]

uh yeah of three runs I've gotten to Blasted Steps hitless zero times?

[autumn kettle]

oh

that's your problem

remember that harpoon is really good

[hoary tulip]

the first question I asked was if taking damage speeds the rest of the timer up

because it feels like the timer is like, laughably short

[autumn kettle]

it's only really short if you get hit

you've got two or so bars left hitless

[prisma pewter]

u have everything u need

you just need reps

[hoary tulip]

I'm getting to Blasted Steps with like half of my fuckin timer left

I'll try this later when it's not late at night and I'm not exhausted from skonging all day

[autumn kettle]

i did it in like three attempts, it felt pretty fluid to me

er

four or five, maybe

definitely come back to it with a fresh brain

and fresh hands

harpoon mobility is super important

as is ||wing mobility||

[brave flower]

is it behind that evil ass skull ant

[prisma pewter]

it is not

[thorny bear]

well. yeah. i don't think there was ever any question about that.

[brave flower]

ok phew

[thorny bear]

(of hollow knight, i mean)

[brave flower]

then where

[autumn kettle]

true ending isn't futile, you're killing the radiance

it's just with the sacrifice of yourself and the hollow knight

[thorny bear]

i assumed "first two" meant the ones where you don't

[autumn kettle]

unless you meant sealed siblings

[thorny bear]

sealed siblings is technically slightly faster than true ending

[autumn kettle]

or they meant, I guess yeah

[thorny bear]

sealed siblings always felt so silly to me

[autumn kettle]

it's very funny

it's the ending for fucking it all up

and just deliberately failing the qte

[thorny bear]

"wait guys, hold on a second. what if the player is set up for true ending but doesn't use the dream nail? should we just script it so they use the nail? no, that would be patronizing...should the bad ending just play out as normal? no, hornet being there would be different...ah, we can just tweak it a bit to make another ending, why not"

[brave flower]

seriously where is the ||dash||, i feel like i need it to progress in any way but cannot find iy

I FOUND IT

[sinful stirrup]

Crest of the reaper my beloved

Also I just ||evolved|| hunter crest?? That's a thing, apparently

[autumn kettle]

ye

only it though apparently

[prisma pewter]

fuckoff

[autumn kettle]

IT'S SO FUNNY

[sinful stirrup]

Sadje, guess it makes sense given that the other crests have a similar built in effect

Also made it to the top of thr steppe, and I meant to have fabled ||harpoon||?

[prisma pewter]

oh ||theres another pale oil to be found?||

[autumn kettle]

man, this minigame is so fucking tough

[thorny bear]

huh, they just straight-up made ||the real final boss of hollow knight the fake final boss of|| silksong

[brave flower]

elaborate

[autumn kettle]

it's exactly what it sounds like

[thorny bear]

||the bad ending final boss of silksong is extremely similar to Radiance||

[autumn kettle]

just keep playing

[brave flower]

i found the ||spike trap tool||, very fun

[sinful stirrup]

That tool is great

[autumn kettle]

ough

[sinful stirrup]

Very good against some bosses

[sinful stirrup]

I skipped it lmao, Other Routes

[thorny bear]

let's go bb

i wanna say sixth try? definitely wasn't as bad as i expected.
probably my favorite boss in the series.

[autumn kettle]

she was really cool

normal ending tho?

[thorny bear]

some day before i die i will beat hollow knight steel soul

[autumn kettle]

alas

[thorny bear]

the same is absolutely not true of silksong lmao

[thorny bear]

what are you talking about? ||my health and silk meter got so big :D i'm so strong and powerful now this is such a good outcome :)||

[sinful stirrup]

Also the dichotomy of act one bosses
Good: ||weaver, lace, fourth chorus||
Horrible: ||beast fly, sister splinter||

[thorny bear]

i'm a ||splinter|| enjoyer tbh

[sinful stirrup]

||Infinite adds|| sure is a choice

[thorny bear]

everything feels telegraphed enough to be fair

[hoary tulip]

||Beastfly|| can fuck right off

[sinful stirrup]

Oh that's the better of those two for sure

[hoary tulip]

wretched, awful boss fight

[thorny bear]

in every server i'm in with a silksong thread i've seen people vent about how much they hate beastfly lol

[hoary tulip]

okay

good

that boss is wack

[thorny bear]

if balance patches happen i'm sure it will be tweaked

[sinful stirrup]

The thing is, would be simple without the adds

[hoary tulip]

there are some true Visual Clutter Assholes in this game

||Widow|| is kind of an offender of this category imo, great boss fight but the sheer density of visual information you need to take in gets rough

[sinful stirrup]

Widow 2nd phase was a lot, but manageable

Widow was good as hell imo

[autumn kettle]

despair

you need to fucking beat

to win

[thorny bear]

grishkin goat

[autumn kettle]

this minigame sucks ass

[thorny bear]

hornet simply doesn't have the same competitive mindset

[autumn kettle]

the others were fun

but ugh

[thorny bear]

the same passion for the game

[sinful stirrup]

I've found the straight pin game, I do not have the rosaries

I am so pöör

[hoary tulip]

Hollow Knight: Hornet Goes Fucking Broke

[sinful stirrup]

Also wondering where all the charms are, I have like, 2 or each category

Except yello

[thorny bear]

yeah they're bizarrely scarce early game

[elfin ravine]

You get a bunch more later

[hoary tulip]

It’s a steady drip through the entire game instead of being frontloaded like Hollow Knight is IMO

[green bone]

God I feel so behind everyone

[hoary tulip]

The first 50% of Hollow Knight’s charms are in the first 50% of the story, which seems reasonable until you realize how much bullshit not-story there is to do in Hollow Knight

[green bone]

At the 8 hour mark doing ||Chapel of the Beast|| and people already beat the game

[thorny bear]

giving players access to different options to see what playstyles they like is something you want to do early imo

[autumn kettle]

i fucking hate this minigame

[green bone]

Yeah HK's charms are like: you get 80% through regular progression and then hunt the 20% remaining for 40 hours

[hoary tulip]

Yea but that’s why the frontloaded customization thing in Silksong are something else

[green bone]

And also the best ones are basically all in that 20%

[thorny bear]

what do you mean, you get Compass so early

[green bone]

That's why "basically" is there

[hoary tulip]

Hmm

Trying to figure out how to phrase this

I don’t know how to talk about like

Truly hidden areas without the spoiler tag not giving something away lol

[thorny bear]

it's definitely not uncommon for very important pieces of content to be hidden somewhere most players could never find

see: every fromsoft game

[hoary tulip]

To be fair you can win every Dark Souls game with the starting gear only going to the most important indicated points of interest

[thorny bear]

"most important indicated" is doing some herculean lifting

baseless speculation time:
In one year, what do you think the any% and 100% silksong world records will be?

i want to say 40 minutes and 6 hours

[autumn kettle]

just say secret zone or something and spit yo shit

i'm curious

i think i've found all but two areas in the game now

with some help

[hoary tulip]

||It’s crazy that Weavenest Atla is secret||

[haughty oasis]

is there some sort of lockout or something if you beat the final boss before doing everything in the game

idk if im even as close to it as i thought

[autumn kettle]

||yeah it's kinda fucked up, however, many true ending things in games are||

[autumn kettle]

yes for some stuff

dunno how much

but absolutely

[haughty oasis]

ive been exploring the map instead of getting the three funny guys in the citadel

[hoary tulip]

||true ending??? man I’ve just been in there to upgrade my crest and get the Compass slot||

[autumn kettle]

that too!

[haughty oasis]

im basically asking if theres like a way to accidentally get the true ending

i guess thats not to big a worry

[hoary tulip]

Actually, real question, as someone who’s done a lot of Act 2 stuff

Where is the point of no return at

[haughty oasis]

yeah im curious about that too

[hoary tulip]

Because I’d really rather not fuck my savefile up

[thorny bear]

wait what do you mean ||compass slot||?

[autumn kettle]

killing ||grand mother silk||

[hoary tulip]

I don’t know what that is so I assume I’m good to go until I do

[autumn kettle]

||the spider-god||

[hoary tulip]

Even more spoiled now

[autumn kettle]

sorry, i just wanted to be as clear as possible for point of no return

and ||it being a spider and also a god is extremely extremely telegraphed and also explicitly stated by hornet a couple times||

[hoary tulip]

I mean yeah

I kinda already knew

But I didn’t Really already know

[autumn kettle]

||which is why i didn't consider it a spoiler||

||sorry, though||

[hoary tulip]

Nah it’s all good

Like I said

I kinda already knew that

So it’s whatever

[autumn kettle]

yeah hornet straight out says both parts

during msq prog

[hoary tulip]

She sure does

[autumn kettle]

they're not playing coy with this one lmfao

||"yeah you fucks already know what's going on, and hornet is a protagonist that can talk"||

[hoary tulip]

YouTubers will still be surprised

[autumn kettle]

||"no reason for her to be cagey"||

anyway, i am going to bed

||flea festival|| was making me fucking mald

which is a first for this game so far

so it's definitely time to call it quits

||i quite liked 2/3 of the minigames, but the juggling one sucks ass||

[hoary tulip]

The first time I saw thread come from above while Radiance.wav played I was like “yeah alright”

[autumn kettle]

lmfao

yeah it's not

especially hidden

||and also a bunch of the needolin thoughts are radiance-ass OUR LIGHT||

||FOR...YOU...FOREVER||

[hoary tulip]

Mhm

[autumn kettle]

||PHARLOOM ETERNAL||

all that shit

[hoary tulip]

I’ve been jamming on the Needolin

[autumn kettle]

needolin is peam

[hoary tulip]

Sometimes you just gotta sit down and bang out the tunes

[autumn kettle]

wish it didn't cost silk

[hoary tulip]

With your buddy Bellbeast

[autumn kettle]

but at least i have ||the archivist|| to play sick beats on demand

[haughty oasis]

also yeah I've heard people talk about this but i got an entirely different upgrade there

[hoary tulip]

whuh

[autumn kettle]

oh?

[haughty oasis]

||my base crest got upgraded with a focus mechanic||

[autumn kettle]

||not yellow vesticrest and then hunter upgrade?||

yes

[hoary tulip]

||I got Evolved Hunter and the yellow tool vesticrest||

[autumn kettle]

that's the ||crest upgrade||

[haughty oasis]

i never got that first hting

[autumn kettle]

guess the order's flipped then

[hoary tulip]

HMM

[autumn kettle]

and i was wrong

[haughty oasis]

do i have to do something to get her to not just say this

[hoary tulip]

okay that raises questions

[autumn kettle]

||suppose it's hunter 1 -> yellow vest -> hunter 2 -> blue vest -> ???||

[hoary tulip]

yeah I also have that dialogue

[autumn kettle]

yes

[haughty oasis]

what is it

[autumn kettle]

||get more crests||

[haughty oasis]

???

i think its bugged for me

i have 4

[autumn kettle]

hm

[hoary tulip]

I'm worried that it may be bugged for me too if that's the case

[haughty oasis]

i had 4 when i first entered

[autumn kettle]

maybe that's not the trigger then...

[hoary tulip]

I have 5

and I haven't gotten past the ||yellow vesticrest||

[autumn kettle]

i currently have 6 and have ||yellow and blue vesti and two hunter upgrades||

[haughty oasis]

do i need to spend memory lockets?

[autumn kettle]

maybe?

[haughty oasis]

im stockpiling them

[autumn kettle]

don't

[hoary tulip]

I was kinda wondering if I needed to use mem lockets too

[autumn kettle]

i've used every locket i have

[hoary tulip]

since I uh

I have 6

[autumn kettle]

except the one that i just picked up

[haughty oasis]

SAME

[hoary tulip]

I've been sitting on a pile of memory lockets

[autumn kettle]

and i've maxed out every crest except #6

(which needs this current locket + one more)

[hoary tulip]

wait but like

whuh

[haughty oasis]

ok

[hoary tulip]

that's insane

[haughty oasis]

its triggered by used memory lockets

lol

[autumn kettle]

guess so

[hoary tulip]

goddamnit

[autumn kettle]

and i'm still short an entire crest

and however many lockets it takes to max

probably 2

[hoary tulip]

wait topple what the fuck kind of memory locket hoard did you find

[haughty oasis]

i used 2

and i got a buff

[autumn kettle]

i dunno, they're just kinda everywhere

[hoary tulip]

well

[autumn kettle]

unfortunately they were too common for me to keep track of their locations

which is going to make finding the last ones a bitch and a half

[hoary tulip]

I guess that solves the enigma of how to become more spiritually powerful

[haughty oasis]

ok i used 6 lockets and got only 1 upgrade

[autumn kettle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[haughty oasis]

it probably triggers at 5 and 10 total actually

[autumn kettle]

there must be some bullshit, yeah

[haughty oasis]

cuz i had 3, went to 5 and saw a trigger

then one by one had no triggers up to 9

i have one i can buy so i can grind up some money tomorrow and test

[hollow elm]

Pretty surprised I've been bouncing between Crests for various reasons. (Act 1, middle-ish) ||Evolved Hunter Crest feels a lot better to use, extra damage from focus meter gives a solid reason to use over Wanderer/Reaper.||

[safe yew]

(same as above) ||how does the focus meter on evolved hunter work? i haven't really used evolved hunter enough to notice it||

[haughty oasis]

When it's full u do more damage

[safe yew]

i see

[haughty oasis]

It goes down when u get hit

It's full after 6 hits iirc

[sinful stirrup]

It empties when you get hit, in fact

Fully

[haughty oasis]

Yeah I shoulda been more clear

[safe yew]

i see. i have dubious dodging skills so i will stick to wanderer

[sinful stirrup]

It's similar to reaper

Where you get bonus silk drops until you get hit or timer goes

[green bone]

i have been stuck on this fucker for an hour

[inland wave]

So is this Rosary thing like, supposed to be infuriating?

I just got to the ||Undercroft|| and I want to hit someone with a hammer

[hollow elm]

Very heavy emphasis on stringing beads if you don't have a plan for them Right Now.

Stringed beads aren't dropped on death, and don't have to worry about retrieving them on death.

[spark ether]

I got so frustrated by having to grind so many all the time that I've fully just thrown in the towel and started cheating them in

I can tell you how if you want

[inland wave]

I know about the string thing

But when the only enemies in the area you can't leave drop two to three (if they aren't ||torn apart by buzzsaws||) it gets a little annoying to have to pay each time

but i ain't gonna cheat

just horf

i get it, class disparity

[fathom shadow]

Does anyone know what the Taunt button even does?
R3 on controller.
It uses some silk but doesn’t seem to do anything other than look cool?
I thought it was meant to be a parry button.

[sinful stirrup]

Whelp

I've been bugknaqpped

[hollow elm]

That might be the needolin bind or something else, since it doesn't seem to be bound to anything normally.

[green bone]

Does anyone know how to progress from here? Checked everywhere I could think of

[sinful stirrup]

Can't go left from bellhart?

Try going up the big shaft in mosshome

To the left of bone bottom

[green bone]

||I can go to Shellwood but I cant find my way out of the first room||

||it seems like I'd need a claw equivalent to do it?||

[sinful stirrup]

||Mantis claw? yeah||

But yeah , mosshome, up/across the shaft

Also you have revealed a secret area to me! Thank

yoo, spool half lesssgo

[umbral canyon]

ok, idk what i was expecting from the game but (post-bellhart) ||a fucking prison break arc|| was not part of it

there's some shit in this game, damn

also, early game areas repopulate with new quests and minibosses, very nice

the rosary drought definitely eases up post-bellhart as well, so that's something

still stingier than it needs to be in the early game

[hollow elm]

The areas around Bellhart are definitely loaded in comparison. It took me a while to clear Bellhart itself though.

[umbral canyon]

yeah i just beat ||widow||, doing a tour of the early game areas now that i have the ||mantis claw||. i've managed to clear out all the merchants prior to that area too i'm pretty sure

including the hidden one in ||hunter's march||

[green bone]

Yeah that definitely works then

Was wondering if I had to use ||a Simple Key|| to progress

[umbral canyon]

i think that's for optional areas only? i've only seen one door but the wording makes me think there'll be others

[sinful stirrup]

I've seen more simple locks that doors lmao

[green bone]

||There's two I know, the one I had to use to climb up the Moss shaft and another one in Deep Docks||

[hollow elm]

I haven't used any until much later, seems to generally enable shortcuts/optional paths. At the same time, I've been pogoing off flying enemies to get places early.

[sinful stirrup]

Yeah I did that a few times in gloom

[green bone]

Ok that's ||Sister Splinter|| fucking dead

fun boss

god I waited so long for this

[umbral canyon]

a lot of bosses in this game have a gimmick where they summon way too many minions but also kill them

[tacit wadi]

Anyone know how you get access to the second needle upgrade?

[autumn kettle]

||citadel, like he says||

||there's a quest that'll take a while and a hidden one||

||then a third somewhere, but that's almost certainly act 3||

[tacit wadi]

||I guess I probably should have phrased it better; how do you get into the locked room with the oil for the second sword upgrade?||

[autumn kettle]

||vault||

[tacit wadi]

gotcha

thanks

[hot mango]

So you know how I was having issues finding Mask Shards + Spool Upgrades earlier?

So I got my third spool upgrade and 2 mask upgrades yesterday

They make the game SO much more manageable because at max silk I can use a Silk Skill and still Bind + take way more hits now

[green bone]

very very fun boss fight ( ||Bellhart spoilers||)

[green bone]

afaik it can be used to aggro enemies to you

might be useful to some pogo skips

[hoary tulip]

this boss is sick

[green bone]

Probably when Silksong finally clicked for me

She's so fucking funny

[somber smelt]

worst way to die in silksong sofar: staggering a boss that then falls on you and kills you

[autumn kettle]

yeah that one's pretty painful

alright.

back on skong

back to the flea juggle grind

this minigame is ass

THANK GOD

OH FUCK

THAT WAS SO WORTH IT

christ

i dunno how i'll get 100% under 30 hours with this fuckery

that'll take me one on its own

[brave flower]

what are you even getting from these things

[autumn kettle]

don't worry about it

[brave flower]

[autumn kettle]

hmmmm

[somber smelt]

Beat ||sister splinter, now up against Widow, and holy hell||

Gonna go use my new trick where I can first I think

[autumn kettle]

oh my god and there's more

i feel so clever

i know it's well-signposted

because silksong is a fucking 12/10 game

but

i still feel so clever

[brave flower]

is silksong secretly a fuckin animal well-type game

wherein the rabbit hole keeps getting deeper

[autumn kettle]

unfortunately i've never played animal well :(

i really need to though

if that's the first thing your mind jumps to

[brave flower]

same genre as blue prince/void stranger/tunic

[brave flower]

animal well is REALLY good

[autumn kettle]

Some Fucked Shit?

[brave flower]

puzzle games that fucking destroy you

and make you go "holy shit i can DO that???"

[autumn kettle]

there's not that level of lunacy, because regrettably silksong is made by sane people

but it's really cool

i have found

||a secret area with some path of pain bullshit movement demands||

it's so cool

[brave flower]

it was???

[hot mango]

Pleaaaase spoiler tag

[autumn kettle]

i...did?

you must have just clicked on it

[hot mango]

… that’s my bad sorry

[autumn kettle]

yes it is

[hot mango]

I didn’t even notice I did- I didn’t mean to click on it

[tacit wadi]

||the maggot trap is diabolical jesus christ||

[autumn kettle]

it's so fucking funny

it's abhorrent

||okay i hope there aren't any movement tools after wings & launch, because if there are this platforming section will be lame, but if there aren't this is the coolest fucking thing since path of pain||

i'm having an absolute ball

god

if these are the basegame final movement puzzles

i can't even imagine what the dlc ones will be like

[green bone]

|| https://youtu.be/cGpXlJ3r8SE || v. early game spoiler

[brave flower]

holy shit that ||lace|| fight was fantastic

[lost brook]

i uh

||i feel like i should get some more uprades before fighting you||

[elfin ravine]

go for it honestly

[autumn kettle]

HOLY FUCK IT KEEPS GOING

[autumn kettle]

SOMEBODY'S GOTTA WITNESS THIS

JESUS CHRIST THIS SECTION IS INSANE

oughghgoughoughough

i wish more people were this far along

[elfin ravine]

||Lace is fairly manageable IMO ||

[autumn kettle]

so i could lose my mind with company instead of in solitude

[elfin ravine]

working on it 😛

[autumn kettle]

HOLY SHIT I THINK I DID IT

JESUS CHRIST THAT SECTION WAS SO HARD

[dense grove]

nah ur fine lol

[autumn kettle]

hey what the fuck

HEY WHAT THE FUCK

[tacit wadi]

owo

[autumn kettle]

i

am inordinately proud of that

i hope there's not another movement tool i missed that makes it easy

so that i look like a fucking chump for struggling so hard to get up there

[lost brook]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN DASH DOWNWARDS

[autumn kettle]

excuse me what the fuck

[brave flower]

this is the fight i just did, it does a FANTASTIC job of teaching you how to deal with it just by getting your ass kicked a couple times

definitely just go for it

[lost brook]

yeah it took me 3 tries

[brave flower]

hell yeah

really fun, huh?

[lost brook]

which unfortunately was overshadowed by

[lost brook]

me discovering THIS while flailing

[brave flower]

this game's so god damn cool

unfortunately i can only play it in short bursts

otherwise i will probably tilt

[autumn kettle]

christ, i feel like king high gigachad after that fucking section i just did

y'all will uh

know it when you get to it

lemme know when you do

because i want to fucking gush

about how goddamn cool some of the platforming in this game is

[brave flower]

gonna take me a while but ill let you know when i get there!

[lost brook]

uh

is there a good place for me to farm rosaries

[autumn kettle]

also, on the one hand this is kind of melancholy, on the other hand hornet canonically fucks

which is really funny

[brave flower]

mosshome's not bad

[autumn kettle]

where are you?

if you can get to ||greymoor||, there's a very, very fast spot right there

[brave flower]

you can get there from ||bonebottom bellway once you get the elevator|| and theres a tonof rosaries to be had there

[lost brook]

||the elevator huh||

....

why did i just turn into snake for a second

[autumn kettle]

:{

[dense grove]

Spoilers, asking if a certain route is doable now ||If I completed the enemy rush in Craw Lake and sent up all the balloons, as well as hitting the second switch among the balloon jumping, is it possible for me to get all the way to the top yet, or do I have to take another route to get to what I can now see is a Weaver shrine?||

[wanton bone]

It’s doable.

[dense grove]

Fuck

Followup

How?

<XD

[dense grove]

extremely important news

[wanton bone]

Uhh… there’s the ||ledge just under the second switch, that takes you to a more enclosed space. It’s a bit of a tricky jump but doable. Don’t forget to glide.||

[dense grove]

ah

I shall look

[autumn kettle]

damn, the ||dreamer equivalents in this game got fucking hands||

[lost brook]

....hey uh

Is our Friend hunter here

Or a equivalent of him

[brave flower]

is there ||markoth||

[elfin ravine]

||Architect's Melody|| obtained
have to say, it was almost harder to get out of ||Clockwork Core|| again than to get in

unless I missed some kind of easy way back down

also wonder if there is a solution to that puzzle anywhere, because I just bruteforced it

[autumn kettle]

i think it's just reading and matching

[dense grove]

got it, ballin

immediately changed to that skill

also ||found a new tool||

[autumn kettle]

there's a lot of those

51 even

[dense grove]

51 of the ones ||you activate with up + r1???||

[autumn kettle]

nah

||only like 15 red tools||

[dense grove]

I was boutta be like 'damn that's even deeper buildcrafting than I thought'

[autumn kettle]

||18, looks like||

[lost brook]

can you kill him

[autumn kettle]

yes

[dense grove]

I've been doing everything except going towards the direction I think is progress

[autumn kettle]

currently beating my head against the wall that is ||karmelita||

[dense grove]

||past Moorwing cuz fuck Moorwing all my homies hate Moorwing||

[autumn kettle]

i'm no closer to solving her than i was 20 minutes ago

that's a first for this game

really gotta just

slow the fuck down and look at the attacks

i can no longer dodge based on vibes and reflex

[elfin ravine]

There's a few ways around it too, if you'd rather avoid the fight

[dense grove]

I mean I'll take it lmao

[elfin ravine]

||one way is to complete the Flea quest, and find five fleas. If you do, the caravan goes to the spot where the Moorwing is rn and lets you skip it for now||
||another is to buy the key in Bone Bottom, and then use it on the top left of the area. If you make it all the way through the area on the other side, you can get to a new area that will also let you progress into the place after Moorwing||

[severe swift]

wtf does the ||needolin|| even do?

[autumn kettle]

many things

||dream nail things, mostly||

[sinful stirrup]

It opens certain doors, and gets you lore

[autumn kettle]

and more :)

[hoary tulip]

You play that funky music

[gusty storm]

SHARE LORE

[dense grove]

oh cool ||I already bought that key to get the wanderer crest||

[gusty storm]

I actively don't care about spoilers as I'm not playing and will happily listen to all lore drops

[dense grove]

white bug?

[hot mango]

Act 2 Spoiler: ||Does anyone know where the maps for The Stage and the Memory Vaults are? I "completed" both areas but didn't find squat||

[autumn kettle]

same map

it's hidden away a bit

[hoary tulip]

It’s in an annoying hidden spot

[autumn kettle]

||northeast corner of the zone, in an attic trapdoor - it also opens up a shortcut to songclave||

[hoary tulip]

||That shortcut is gas||

[hot mango]

||I better find that then that sounds really handy||

||Also the Whiteward boss is rough. Like it feels like it should be easier but the windows to damage it are small + it's hitbox is so big so it's really hard to find a window to damage it||

Still haven't beat it yet because between attempts I realized it was 3 AM and I should sleep

[hoary tulip]

That guy is a dick

[autumn kettle]

||which one is the whiteward boss?||

[hoary tulip]

||The Unravelled||

[autumn kettle]

oh fuck

did i never find that?

i don't think i did

how do you get there?

[hoary tulip]

Ooh, got one over Topple

[autumn kettle]

||is it through the locked door?||

||because i never found that stupid fucking key||

[hot mango]

||The Key is hidden in the vents||

[autumn kettle]

oughoughughuhg

[hot mango]

||ALso in Whiteward||

[autumn kettle]

okay, guess i've got a few things to mop up

[brave flower]

btw its time to avoid youtube

[autumn kettle]

i'd appreciate some direction later, i think

[hot mango]

You also need to have unlocked the ||Grapple||

[brave flower]

people are alreafy cranking out "all bosses" videos

i have been spoiled on some stuff by accident

[autumn kettle]

i think i have every movement tool lmao

[hoary tulip]

I preemptively blocked those creators from my feed

[hot mango]

||w/o it it's inaccessible, straight up||

[brave flower]

fuck Video Game News

[hot mango]

YouTube is unreliable unfortunately- this is a good heads up I will keep in mind

[hot mango]

I really hope the reward is noteworthy

[autumn kettle]

okay, stuck on this boss for the better part of an hour, through breaks

yowch

this is my first like

real roadblock

[hot mango]

Then again Lore is a reward I enjoy because I'm weird

[autumn kettle]

this one is fucked up

[hot mango]

The ||Whiteward|| boss or a different one?

[autumn kettle]

no

i just said i didn't know that existed

[elfin ravine]

man, I hate that arena in ||Bilewater||

[autumn kettle]

||karmelita||, one of the ||super-dreamers|| in act3

i'm curious if this is just going to be a me thing

[hot mango]

I was just assuming you modified spacetime to get stuck on a boss for an hour in 3 minutes lmao

[autumn kettle]

usually the bosses i get stuck on are the ones other people find kind of easy, and the "difficult" bosses i just enjoy and breeze through

[hot mango]

Like genuinely that was my thought process w/ 0 ill intent

[hot mango]

Breaking: radiant gamer gets stuck on boss. compatriots are sweating.

[autumn kettle]

lol

ah, damn

got her to phase 3

better than i've been doing

i've been using reaper for the first time basically all game

i was totally floundering on wanderer

swapped to beast, did even worse

but reaper's got the range, and god does this boss have range

[hot mango]

Did I ever tell y'all about that time I glitched the ||Savage Beastfly Hunt Fight?||

||Basically, I fell in lava the same time it dove in lava, and that made it stuck under lava until I reset the room||

^ Low Stakes Wish Spoiler btw, it should be act 2 exclusive I think

[autumn kettle]

wack

[hot mango]

||Savage Beastfly 2 sucks btw, adding essentially Fire Aspids to the fight is painful||

Also, question- what qualifies as an ||expanding of power for the sake of getting crest upgrades from Alta?||

[autumn kettle]

it seems to be ||memory locket expenditure||

[hot mango]

Huh... that's weird. Very unintuitive.

[somber smelt]

||beastfly|| is giving me trouble
something about huge floaty enemies always throws me off

[hot mango]

To get a heads up- ||does it look like there are enough Memory Lockets to max out every crest? Where I’m at in the game that seems extremely out of reach and I only have 4 crests total||

[autumn kettle]

ugh

got super greedy

[autumn kettle]

yes

i've definitely missed a fistful of gubbins

and i've maxed out every crest except the one i don't have

[hot mango]

Okay cool I wasn’t using them out of fear of specifically not being able to do that

[rose granite]

||The forum fight was, uhm, tough to say the least.|| Think I'll go do some other stuff before doing that fight again.

[prisma pewter]

its cool they added a p6 tho :)

[autumn kettle]

yeah, needle 4 is definitely good for that one

[rose granite]

Yeah, got to ||the first miniboss, beat them, lost to the surprise of there being one more wave, looked it up, and found that, uh, I was halfway and not at the end||

[autumn kettle]

lol

[rose granite]

Don't even have me needle 3 yet ;p.

[somber smelt]

okay so this boss is bull lmao
it's attack patterns are imprecise enough that sometimes you just don't get the dodge on instinct and it Also spawns adds

[rose granite]

Oh yeah that's a rough one.

[somber smelt]

Sometimes i'll just jump into the damn thing by accident and die because it's just so floaty

[rose granite]

Not the toughest I've met, but they really do love putting you against hordes in this game

[autumn kettle]

god

i'm so close

to beating this boss

[elfin ravine]

I am currently being frustrated by the boss in ||Sinner's Road||

[somber smelt]

Yeah ||moorwing|| was worse for me but it's the same brand of Why I'm Bad At It

[elfin ravine]

the muckmaggots are so goddamn annoying

[prisma pewter]

which is that again

[elfin ravine]

also two mask contact damage again

[hot mango]

There’s this really long quest I’m doing to get the item I presumably need for Needle 3 but I have literally no idea if that’s the right item or not, ||I just saw I needed an oil and the reward is an oil so I’m just guessing||

[rose granite]

||That's one of the routes, but it is the more difficult one to get.||

[hot mango]

||I also saw a locked room in the Citadel that was full of Pins so I think if I get in there I might find the oil there too. No spoils tho||

[autumn kettle]

GET. FUCKED. BOZO.

christ

that took me a uh

long time

like 20 tries

30?

[hot mango]

Man I don’t even count my attempt number most bosses take me that many

[autumn kettle]

hmmmmm

[rose granite]

Also, think I might just install mods for the compass, magnet, and at least more shell shards, since at this point that'd just be some nice QoL to have.

[autumn kettle]

i thought this would open up

lol

[hot mango]

The enemy gauntlets are also hell

[autumn kettle]

there's a compass slot though

[hot mango]

It was a common mod for Hollow Knight and I’m unsurprised Silksong is no different

[rose granite]

So far I've only seen the tool, so guessing that's later.

[elfin ravine]

I am not a fan of shell shards as a mechanic tbh

[rose granite]

There is, checked earlier.

[hot mango]

Personally the Yellow tools are niche enough that I see no problem equipping the compass- swapping them around isn’t a big deal to me

[elfin ravine]

it's just the same thing as Bloodborne and Sekiro again
meaningless if you're doing well, forcing you to farm when you're doing badly

[hot mango]

I’m the exact opposite- Shell shards is making me see why people love Bloodborne so much

[green bone]

Angeban93

[brave flower]

whats a good rosary farming spot

[hot mango]

You get such a surplus too that it’s not a big deal until you’re really deep into boss attempts

[rose granite]

Mm, increasingly not either. I was more okay when using tools sparingly, but realising a run can be 90+ shards if it goes deep is one of those things that kinda confirms what I was suspecting; it becomes an issue when you're struggling only

[brave flower]

i have ||the dash and the parachute||

[rose granite]

Which since I've not seen a shard magnet yet makes it awkward

[hot mango]

Then perhaps I don’t have as many hours yet lol

[autumn kettle]

i've never run out of shell shards once

[rose granite]

And whilst that's something you can do, I do just kinda want to use tools that aren't the compass whilst exploring.

[green bone]

I've been using the right side tunnel of the ||Greymoore inn||

[hollow elm]

I've gotten used to running around without Compass instead to have harder to replace utilities instead. Silksong's areas are fortunately much easier to recognize.

[prisma pewter]

its a hint that you should leave and go do something else

[dense grove]

God the soundtrack is so good...

[autumn kettle]

yeah

[rose granite]

But yeah, went in having an idea of why the shade are the way they are (you can go find my prior comment in this thread about it and bullets/vials in Bloodborne), whilst also feeling that the way it's intending to achieve things in a soft manner are just not for me.

[elfin ravine]

being forced to go farm shards is not gonna make me any less tilted about grinding a boss tbh

[rose granite]

Understand what the mechanic does and the ways in which one can see it as clever; also just don't vibe with it so will prolly just install a mod to increase the amount you get at least.

[elfin ravine]

also again, it's not even like you run out of shards that slowly

[autumn kettle]

hey what the fuck

[elfin ravine]

if you heavily use tools you can easily use 50+ shards per attempt

[hollow elm]

I'm suprised I haven't ran into a shard magnet item yet, with how much more of a hassle they are to grab manually for refilling.

[lost brook]

hey uh

....whjere is the bench here

i saw it,didnt have the money,went to farm the money and came back

but i forgor where it was :)

[rose granite]

Same, and tbh I'm starting to wonder if it exists. Might, but unsure

[prisma pewter]

are there just infinite ||crests|| or what

[autumn kettle]

i just got the last one!

HEY WHAT THE FUCK

[hot mango]

For some reason I doubt it exists :(

[autumn kettle]

alright, where was that ||key in the vents|| in whiteward again?

[elfin ravine]

it's through that passage up from you

[autumn kettle]

time to scrape the map

and then find those last two fucking memory lockets...

[hot mango]

||So there’s the hallway on the right side of the elevator shaft. Going long enough in that area, you’re gonna exit up into a hallway that goes 2 ways, specifically entering from a hole in the floor. At that intersection, there’s a secret hole that allows you to go up. I’d be more specific but I forget details beyond that||

[autumn kettle]

i swear to god i found that...

ough

[hot mango]

Then I could be wrong, I coulda swore it was in there

[autumn kettle]

no you're probably right

and i just missed it

like i have five other things in similar places

[brave flower]

I USED THE KEY IN THE WRONG PLACE

[hot mango]

In that secret area you’ll find one of those ||hooks you hang onto in order to weigh it down and activate a mechanism||

[hollow elm]

I guess buying shard packs is the main way to get more shards in reserve quickly.

[hot mango]

Prolly

But Roasaries are also really scarce, especially if you suck at a specific runback to your cocoon

[prisma pewter]

it sucks when there is a rosary cost in an area where enemies dont drop rosaries

[autumn kettle]

is it this fucking section?

because i couldn't figure out how to successfully interact with it

[hot mango]

I never saw that section imma be real

Or maybe I did I legit do not recall

[autumn kettle]

gdi

[hot mango]

Pretty sure I didn’t tho

So I think that’s the wrong area

OH WAIT I REMMEBER SPECIFICS

Okay, ||It’s above the furnace room iirc||

[autumn kettle]

ah

i know where to go now

thanks

ugh

[hot mango]

||the place with the scissor worms- there’s a platform below an entrance to the hall above the furnace room. You wanna go up there and then go one level higher- the entrance to one level higher is hidden||

[brave flower]

wheres the first ||crest|| i can get if i completely bungled the ||simple key and opened the door to the wormways instead of the wanderer crest||

[hot mango]

||The door to the wormways is the door to the wanderer crest iirc. I didn’t experience it personally but I heard that’s an alt path||

[brave flower]

oh sick

[autumn kettle]

yeah...

i think i fucking went there

before i had ||grapple||

[hot mango]

That makes sense yeah

[autumn kettle]

anguish

and i just never remembered to come back

[brave flower]

i dont have that yet :)

[hot mango]

I would’ve done the exact same thing tbh

[autumn kettle]

it is

||wormways -> down||

||since up takes movement you don't have yet||

other way has other things

[hot mango]

I used my one simple key in the area above Greymoore, so so far I have no idea why ||wormways|| exists. It’s a really small area from what I’ve seen thus far

Now I gotta save up to buy another

[safe yew]

the double damage has gotten frankly ridiculous. i'd install a no double damage mod but honestly i might be looking for something more like a double masks mod

[autumn kettle]

just stuff

[elfin ravine]

it's an alternate way to ||Shellwood||

[autumn kettle]

oh okay

[elfin ravine]

also I just did ||Phantom||

neat boss

[autumn kettle]

hell yeah

they were one of my favorites so far

[elfin ravine]

||seems like if you wanted to do it this way, you could also avoid Judge and get into the Citadel from this side?||

[green bone]

Yeah its what I used because I have no idea how you are supposed to get ||wall cling|| otherwize

[autumn kettle]

yep!

||last judge|| seems completely optional!

...||for normal ending :)||

[brave flower]

i found a ||chapel in greymoor||, do you need anything beyond ||dash and parachute|| for it or can i do it now

[thorny bear]

i completed the ||cogwork heart||, the ||mist/organ||, and the ||memorium||

and it doesn't seem like there was a point to any of them

[brave flower]

its the ||reaper||

[autumn kettle]

nope, you're good

[autumn kettle]

there's a point to all of them

immediately for ||the heart||, ||phantom is mostly just for parry||, and later (smile) for ||the memorium||

[thorny bear]

i gave the ||heart|| to the sentinel, i guess i just have to research the entire citadel to find where they are now?

at this point i'm pressed enough for how to progress postgame that i'm considering doing the MMO "kill x of this enemy" "deliver this thing here on foot" quests

[autumn kettle]

if you'd like, i can point you to where ||i found them||

dunno if it's randomized, but

[hollow elm]

I've noticed some of them grant bonus progress for higher tier enemies.

[autumn kettle]

fuck. okay, this was completable still but good to know.

time-sensitive

OH

AND WOW THAT WAS IMPORTANT

fuck me

[hot mango]

there's a postgame?

You know what don't answer that

[brave flower]

YEAAAAAAH

oh my god it has a ||shoryuken||

[lost brook]

i uh

i cant find it

[spark ether]

man I really want to enjoy the ||sister splinter|| fight, but the ||adds also dealing 2 masks|| is just a step too far for me

[prisma pewter]

how do i ||get rid of the parasite from the rite of rebirth quest||

a hint would be nice

i dont understand what ||high into the moors means||

[autumn kettle]

vague hint: ||bloodborne reference :)||

specific person: ||find your good 'ol buddy yarnaby||

[elfin ravine]

||the vertical shaft going up, you need the walljump to get up though IIRC||
||it's the only bench in that area||

[autumn kettle]

has anyone found ||coral shot?||

[lost brook]

||....but

But I got to it before with only dash?||

[thorny bear]

YOOO

[prisma pewter]

big

[thorny bear]

a ubisoft side quest leading me to the entrance of an undiscovered zone is actually neat game design

[prisma pewter]

anyone know whats going on with ||green prince||

[prisma pewter]

yea im pretty sure the only reason theyre in the game is to give more of a guided backtracking

[somber smelt]

The hunts and stuff are cute, yeah

[inland wave]

Also nice to have a voiced protag for it

[somber smelt]

Hornet's characterization is fun

[inland wave]

Though it was fun for folks to see the Knight and make a ton of assumptions

[somber smelt]

"I am too busy to play simple games"
"There's a prize"
"Oh it is so on"

[inland wave]

Her notes in the Hunter Log also good

||'I wish they were not violent, I'd like to pet their fur'||

[somber smelt]

I just beat ||Widow|| and am calling it for the day

What a fight lmao

[inland wave]

YeaaaaaHHH good one

Game loves angles bouncing

[hollow elm]

Congrats, that one took me a lot.

[somber smelt]

It wasn't too bad for me - certainly a better time than the fight i was stuck on

The ||fakeout|| got a laugh out of me

[inland wave]

Her stupid little scampering animation

[autumn kettle]

okay, act 3 ||super-dreamer|| boss number 2 cleared

did this entire thing first try

this was

so fucking disappointing ngl

compared to the visual spectacle here and the brutal challenge of the first one i fought

[lost brook]

the silksong concussion mod

after you pogo off of someone with a helmet 20 times they die from a massive brain hemorrhage

[thorny bear]

really looks like there should be something there but i can't find any entrances along the border

i guess it's probably just another "do something else in another part of the map and get teleported there" situation

[autumn kettle]

||you missed a secret entrance somewhere else||

[hot mango]

Topple did you find the ||whiteward boss|| yet?

If so how was it?

(Based on how you mentioned breezing through other stuff I presume you had an easier time than I currently am)

[autumn kettle]

i mean

i had 9 masks and needle 5

[hot mango]

That is also true

[autumn kettle]

i completely ignored all of its mechanics to beat it to death

by facetanking everything and staggering it through hits

and then just healing after stagger phase

i can't really rate it as a boss because i came at an Objectively Incorrect Time

and i just did not engage with it at all

[hot mango]

Eh it's an optional boss there was no Incorrect time

I might come back to it after I get a few upgrades in that case- I was trying to strategize around it but I'm reaching a point where I kinda wanna move on

[wanton bone]

On that one, I saw a streamer play it, and ||I think it's suposed to also be a bit easier, since part of the challenge are the arenas before it||

[wanton bone]

Or oh. This one.

[autumn kettle]

i suppose

but none of those were difficult either

[brave flower]

oh god the ||moorwing|| runback is gonna be wretched

is there any bench closer than ||halfway home||

[formal zenith]

if you do the ||reaper chapel|| it respawns you there

[wanton bone]

Honestly that one was kind of long, but other than one room, very safe. Honestly better than Soul Sanctum or Mantis Lords.

... maybe not mantis lords if you picked the less safe path, tbf, I was just weird.

[brave flower]

i alr did it

I FOUND SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL

[inland wave]

Me when Sherma

[brave flower]

THE ||MOORWING IS GOING DOWN||

[wanton bone]

Do share?

[autumn kettle]

there are many secrets in this game...

[lost brook]

...am i missing something

i missed like 12 of those spikey floaty guys and this is all i got

[elfin ravine]

How do I get into ||The Slab|| btw?

Do I need the key

[elfin ravine]

You need to hit their spikes

[lost brook]

oh

[elfin ravine]

While they are stuck in a wall

[autumn kettle]

two ways

||get yahar'gul'd in deep docks||

||or come in the front way from the citadel||

this place is so fucking pretty

[elfin ravine]

I have the front way, but can't seem to get anywhere from there

[elfin ravine]

also do I need a key for that?

used my last one to get ||rosary cannon||

[autumn kettle]

nope

or sorry yes

but not a simple key

it's ||at the end of bilewater||

[elfin ravine]

guess I can try grinding that one

would be easier if I didn't have to go so damn far from the bench

and the hidden bench also only helps so far

also still need to find more stuff for the oil

only got one so far, and the delivery

[dense grove]

man

I may be slightly dumb

||where's the moss druid again?||

||I have her berries but forget where she is||

[autumn kettle]

||bit above the bell beast arena||

[dense grove]

Thaaaaaanks!

[inland wave]

I'd love for more bosses to have like

some sort of reward at all

throw me some fuckin rosaries

the fights are fun

and i get the experience of it

but the game demands things fucking constantly

[autumn kettle]

why tf they shakin

[brave flower]

i just died to the most obnoxious thing ever

||moorwing|| ended up so elevated that its projectile was IN THE AIR instead of moving along the ground

[primal cedar]

Uhh do you need some kind of ability to use updrafts??

[brave flower]

||npc will help you with moorwing||

[primal cedar]

Hunters March has been kicking my ass for 3 hours and now I'm very confused about how to progress

[thorny bear]

afaik it's completely optional

[rose granite]

I have been vindicated.

[primal cedar]

... are you kidding me

[autumn kettle]

for now, treat it as totally optional yeah

[primal cedar]

So I'll need some sort of glide ability I assume, and I've wasted the last 3 hours of my miserable existence

I love silksong