Thread for the original Hollow Knight and Hollow Knight: Silksong in preparation for the 2032 release date. I'm gonna go absolutely feral. Spoilers will probably happen
#THE SILKSONG IS REAL
primal cedar
solar elbow
tacit wadi
Skibidi Rizz
autumn kettle
soonsong
dreamy scarab
nimble sigil
The legends were true...
muted rune
autumn kettle
autumn kettle
autumn kettle
dreamy scarab
Horsefly Armor DLC when
autumn kettle
autumn kettle
Horsefly Armor DLC when
it's part of the 23
autumn kettle
dreamy scarab
primal cedar
I think we silkposted a bit too close to the sun
(this is not an edit, the AI is just that stupid)
tacit wadi
Skong 1 week away
nimble sigil
Good god, only a week.
autumn kettle
nimble sigil
Hey do we have an exact time for when the game is going to release? Is it the fourth of September in Adelaide specifically?
tacit wadi
Unfortunately I do not believe we know
hidden flame
I'm seeing the 5th in Melbourne
elfin ravine
I'm gonna assume it'll be like midnight release on the 4th
hoary tulip
ye
hidden flame
Literally midnight in AU 
dreamy scarab
hidden flame
*50.217
dreamy scarab
thorny bear
autumn kettle
or don't heal at all because you never get hit
nimble sigil
For that, you'd have to be good at the game, something many of us aren't capable of.
thorny bear
hoary tulip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LGXmaIOJY
even Ongbal is skonging it
autumn kettle
thorny bear
nimble sigil
I'm so happy I'm going to have more than two Silksong tracks to listen to soon.
nimble sigil
It's the one part of the game where even pre-release it's impossible to have doubts as to it's quality.
hidden flame
What is it about insane videogame composers named Chris?
nimble sigil
Like, no matter how Silksong ends up being (and my expectations are absolutely very high), we all know the music will be impeccable.
nimble sigil
Wizard.
nimble sigil
Kingdom's Edge still induces some unspeakable feelings in me.
hidden flame
MIne is honestly Dirtmouth
nimble sigil
Honestly almost any song in the soundtrack is worthy of being someone's favorite.
nimble sigil
Not Dream Battle because of Markoth induced trauma.
hidden flame
It's still dope music
hidden flame
Just git good
nimble sigil
Unfortunatley I'm naturally bad.
nimble sigil
It may be why I prefer Grimm's theme to Nightmare King.
Though I also just think Grimm's is better overall.
tacit wadi
Silksong Tomorrow (almost)
autumn kettle
NKG's theme is so fucking immaculate
i love the intro to it
in no small part because of how fucking abrupt it is
nimble sigil
It does fit very well with the fight itself.
hidden flame
I love the theming betwen the two
autumn kettle
graceful, elegant organ track
hidden flame
Grimm is still rock organ
autumn kettle
it's just DADADADADADA
hidden flame
Justsweeping
nimble sigil
Goes well with that sense of hectic panic as you desperately dodge NKG's attacks.
autumn kettle
this, too
hidden flame
Hah
autumn kettle
unlike TMG, NKG just immediately wakes up and chooses violence
hidden flame
Looking a the G&N tracks on Spotify
nimble sigil
Though honestly NKG is not too bad once you get the hang of him.
hidden flame
TMG and NKG are a good double any other track
autumn kettle
the pale court theme is wonderful, on the topic of g&n
hidden flame
I have like 6 favourite tracks, lol
Sealed Vessel is probably my favourite boss theme
autumn kettle
sealed vessel is phenomenal
nimble sigil
It really is.
hidden flame
The "Oh" moment going into the third movement 
autumn kettle
such a powerfully evocative track
nimble sigil
Speaking of the main theme, Truth, Beauty and Hatred is great.
autumn kettle
radiance also has some of the best presentation in gaming history imo
the fucking weight of that [Challenge] prompt
hidden flame
Where's that clip of the guy going "What, am I gonna fight the sun?"
nimble sigil
Fight that sun.
autumn kettle
and the fullscreen titlecard
nimble sigil
Honestly TC nails the presentation of so many of the boss fights.
I love the buildup to Nosk.
thorny bear
incorrect
hidden flame
..ugghh, Oro you oaf.... You wield your nail... like a club...
...Esmy... how much deeper do we have to go...
Oh! What?! Who are you?!
...I see. This old village. What a strange dream, to have led me down here! If you hadn't found me, I don't think I would've ever woken.
I'm Sly. Usually, I live an uneventful life up in Dirtmouth. The air in these ruins doesn't agree with me, so I'd best be getting back.
If you return above, come and see me. I'm probably the friendliest face left there, and I can thank you properly for your good deed.
thorny bear
yeah i just didn't see any reason to phrase it as a question so i gave a contrarian response
hidden flame
Shut
Anyway
There is actually a character you meet who uses Nail Arts
Who is not Sly, you or the triplets
nimble sigil
Wait there is?
hidden flame
There is
Not only Nail Arts, but specifically the Skyward Slash (cut content, Godhome Sly still uses it)
Also cementing my theory is that this character is the vertically deepest boss in the game, referencing the line again
nimble sigil
Wait the Broken Vessel?
hidden flame
Mhm, mhm
nimble sigil
Well considering we have literally no other evidence, it might well be.
It's this or Esmy as a completely unknown character from Sly's past, so I like this theory.
hidden flame
And it may also explain why you find both down in the depths
"Esmy" was trying to show Sly where they were born
Because as a vessel, "no voice to cry suffering explain nothin'"
nimble sigil
Yeah honestly it would make sense (though I guess a vessel dying so close to their birthplace wouldn't be that strange in general).
nimble sigil
Oh good point.
Are they the only vessel corpse we see with a nail too?
Not counting the Greenpath one, who has been impaled by one.
hidden flame
I think so
hidden flame
Not counting the Greenpath one, who has been impaled by one.
Presumably its own
nimble sigil
Plausibly, though it could just have been killed by someone else.
nimble sigil
Hornet being responsible is likely. No way to gauge the timing, I think.
hidden flame
Why else would she be hanging out right there?
nimble sigil
Also I do think it would be reasonably in character for Hornet to stab someone's corpse with their own nail, to make them an example.
nimble sigil
Why else would she be hanging out *right there*?
Her patrolling Greenpath in general before stumbling onto the Knight isn't so unlikely.
hidden flame
True
nimble sigil
The Pilgrim's Road passes through there, so it's a reasonable place for the kingdom's protector to keep watch.
hidden flame
Do we know for sue if Skong is a sequel or prequel yet?
hidden flame
The Pilgrim's Road passes through there, so it's a reasonable place for the king...
Also it's where you get Mothwing, so you need it to get at least one of the dreamers
nimble sigil
Though a prequel may be just as likely, to avoid having to confirm a single ending.
autumn kettle
Do we know for sue if Skong is a sequel or prequel yet?
the game calls itself a sequel, but it's ambiguous whether that just means uh
the obvious definition
or both
probably both!
hidden flame
Also, I can't shake the feeling I've seen this symbol before
nimble sigil
It's all over Pharloom, there's a statue of it in one of the villages, and it's the same shape as the staffs that several bugs (including the ones who captured Hornet) carry.
hidden flame
Not in Silksong, though
nimble sigil
Wait then which enemy where you talking about?
nimble sigil
The hype flows through all of us.
It will be very strange, to have Silksong actually release.
The wait for it has been in the background of my life for six years.
hidden flame
I've only been waiting for like, 2 years proper
nimble sigil
I wasn't that involved in the waiting for the most of it, and it's not like I suffered through it or anything, but I still managed to have like two Silksong dreams.
thorny bear
hidden flame
Had me in the first half, ngl
tacit wadi
Silksong Tomorrow
dreamy scarab
🐞 <t:1756994400:R>
tacit wadi
Wonder if Steam is gonna crash like with Deltarune
nimble sigil
Tomorrow for sure!
thorny bear
Silksong spoilers are not to be posted yet
if there's something minor you could post it behind a spoiler tag
tacit wadi
I'm asking moreso because I can't game the get until friday
so I'm wondering if I should leave the thread until I aquire it
nimble sigil
so I'm wondering if I should leave the thread until I aquire it
I think that even if a rule about no spoilers were to be declared, someone would probably slip up eventually. Leaving the thread may be wise.
nimble sigil
We'll be seeing you!
thorny bear
so, first impressions. The movement feels really nice, but imo the UI feels sorta distracting.
hoary tulip
Silkposting with only 11 hours left on the clock?
granite hedge
skong...
subtle bobcat
guys there was silksong news
hidden flame
1 hour to go!!!!!!!!!
autumn kettle
thorny bear
primal cedar
Silksong in 30 min RAAAHHHHH
(I won't get to play until a bit later but still. Hype as fuck)
nimble sigil
After all this time, Silksong today.
dreamy scarab
we have nothing to silklose but our silkchains
autumn kettle
and also our silkshells
i wonder how hornet dies
obviously she can't leave a shade
hidden flame
I believe it has been stated, actually
thorny bear
it's just always steel soul
autumn kettle
ah, neat
dreamy scarab
it's like those horror comics about Mario being a series of clones. each Hornet takes up the mantle of the last
green bone
Holy shit this boosfight is sick
tacit wadi
Shocking
autumn kettle
pain-peko
pale jolt
tacit wadi
I'm stuck on payment
cerulean gust
steam crashed
autumn kettle
still struggling through the cart rn
dreamy scarab
I'm not seeing any reviews yet. did they not give out any review copies?
hoary tulip
They did not
green bone
IM SO CLOSE
nimble sigil
Yeah I'm barely able to log in to Steam, let alone access the Silksong page.
I'm just going to wait it out for a while.
tacit wadi
I think Steam literally cannot process my transaction
wanton bone
I'm just going to wait it out for a while.
Same.
cerulean gust
inner fog
The game is out but the wait continues
nimble sigil
We're going to have to wait six more years for the game to be purchasable.
hoary tulip
nah ppl are getting through here and there
tacit wadi
Same thing happened with Deltarune a few months back
hoary tulip
managed to add skong to cart
autumn kettle
managed to add skong to cart
I've been at the cart phase on and off for so long ;_;
tacit wadi
same
nimble sigil
Same, same.
hoary tulip
how long was Steam dead for when Deltarune dropped
tacit wadi
like an hour or so
inner fog
fuck it, I'm giving pantheon another shot while I wait
cerulean gust
nimble sigil
fuck it, I'm giving pantheon another shot while I wait
You know, I never did manage to complete the Pantheon of Hallownest.
tacit wadi
Silksong delayed
errant nacelle
do y'all want the Gog link or something
unkempt heart
do y'all want the Gog link or something
will this help to install or something?
elfin spoke
is silksong. today?
errant nacelle
will this help to install or something?
it's another shop that isn't crashed
tacit wadi
already a top seller lol
unkempt heart
is silksong. today?
27 minutes ago
elfin spoke
incredible. silksong 27 minutes ago
cerulean gust
we crashed steam
primal cedar
Silksong is over now
errant nacelle
cerulean gust
let me buy the GAME
unkempt heart
it's another shop that isn't crashed
ok thats probably a good idea ill try steam again thogh
primal cedar
I won't be grabbing it until I get off school but the instant that happens I'm reverting to a feral gremlin creature
cerulean gust
only steam has currency localisation it'd be too expensive for me if I pay in usd
hoary tulip
wait can you link a game you got through GOG to Steam or nah
unkempt heart
only steam has currency localisation it'd be too expensive for me if I pay in us...
samsies
green bone
I think so yeah
cerulean gust
it's like double the price
green bone
the exe
elfin spoke
i have never played hollow knight. should i play it before silksong?
green bone
but you dont get any of the fancies like steam achievements or trading cards
I did it for my exe of Ruina
unkempt heart
i have never played hollow knight. should i play it before silksong?
YES
cerulean gust
yes
hoary tulip
hrrrgh on the one hand Silksong Earlier on the other I kinda want to have the cloud functionality
tacit wadi
Yes
unkempt heart
silksong is probably going to be wway more difficult
cerulean gust
it's a prequel
south marten
i have never played hollow knight. should i play it before silksong?
Do you need to? No.
Will you understand the world more if you play it first? Yes.
tacit wadi
Im in the review + purchase stage
south marten
I'm in the "refreshing my Steam until it lets me see the checkout page" stage
hoary tulip
cannot into load cart
gusty knoll
it's very funny seeing so many people chomping at the bit for a digital download
unkempt heart
cannot into load cart
yup
gusty knoll
like concert tickets but the stock is infinite
unkempt heart
i had it in my cart earlier but i cant evenopen that
unkempt heart
like concert tickets but the stock is infinite
yeah but the servers are down so we cant get it
green bone
Im downloading on Gog but even that is super slow
south marten
it's very funny seeing so many people chomping at the bit for a digital download
We have been waiting for six and a half years
gusty knoll
what's two more hours :))
unkempt heart
what's two more hours :))
I am more rabid than an infected bug for this game
i also only have a certain amount of hours today to play before school tomorrow
ok i got it through GOG
that one image of dr manhattan vaporising some guy
gusty knoll
saying that here and now is a bold move
green bone
Ok that bit didnt get through sorry
thorny bear
i like how all the steam achievements are in exact increments of 5%
south marten
Steam lost my cart contents
thorny bear
either it's still processing or we're in the first 20 people
south marten
I'm back in the fucking building again
unkempt heart
installing silksong from gog
thorny bear
i was able to checkout from humble bundle fine
it gives you a steam key, so your achievements and launching and whatnot will be on steam
ancient ember
This is so fun. I need popcorn for this decadent display of fandomonium
cerulean gust
I got to the purchase screen before crashing
tacit wadi
cerulean gust
@unkempt heart stream it here please
autumn kettle
i have been
stuck here
for twelve thousand years
in the cart
waiting
loading
crying
unkempt heart
hoping
autumn kettle
crashingh
unkempt heart
dreaming
unkempt heart
<@838081792849477632> stream it here please
should i just like call you or?
is there a way to stream to this channel
autumn kettle
do not fucking stream to this channel
unkempt heart
ok
unkempt heart
i do want to say that i have been a beleier since i beat hollow knight
cerulean gust
is there a way to stream to this channel
just hop to + new vc lol
autumn kettle
the steam store isn't crashing anymore now that i've rebooted the client
but silksong is fucking stuck still
in the cart
invisible
unremoveable
unpurchasable
i'm so pissed
cerulean gust
autumn kettle
aaaand i'm back to this glorpshit
nimble sigil
Yeah same boat.
autumn kettle
tacit wadi
She silk my song til I shaw
ancient ember
autumn kettle
https://youtu.be/lO6PrFMlhRU
time to open this in a dozen tabs and put them on repeat staggered
ancient ember
loop of Psalm 13:1 read at blazing speed as well.
inner fog
fuck it, I'm giving pantheon another shot while I wait
BEAT IT YEAAAHHH
first try baybeee
tacit wadi
steam still down huh
inner fog
going fast for except I still can't continue to payment
unkempt heart
this game is good
tacit wadi
Anyone have any luck yet
inner fog
not here
unkempt heart
Anyone have any luck yet
yup, got a decent amount of playtime now
tacit wadi
Restarting my PC, see if that helps at all
unkempt heart
i used GOG
unkempt heart
does gog give steam keys?
uhh i dont think so
autumn kettle
unfort
autumn kettle
i wonder if steam support would be able to do anything yet
or if it's still not worth contacting them for skong problems
near frigate
Definitely not
Turnaround for tickets is almost guaranteed to be longer than however long this takes
And also for obvious security reasons support is not allowed to buy things for you
autumn kettle
yuppers
elfin ravine
also still stuck in server troubles 😔
hoary tulip
if you get the "you've been attempting a lot of purchases" message does that mean you're just locked out for an hour
elfin ravine
it is kinda impressive Skong managed to brick basically every storefront its own
nimble sigil
You know, I'm not very familiar with Steam, how often do these kinds of things happen?
ancient ember
As far as I'm aware? Extremely infrequently.
near frigate
I can't remember the last time
ancient ember
Last time it happened it was (apparantly, haven't looked it up) only for a couple minutes when one of Deltarune chapters released
vital viper
The last time I remember my cart failing was the 2020 summer sale iirc
nimble sigil
I know Steam had trouble when the last two Deltarune chapters came out.
But I can't imagine this time is the worst right? Like, there's got to have been some big AAA games that were more anticipated.
tacit wadi
This is also a lot worse than Deltarune, yeah
near frigate
Yes but those have preorders
tacit wadi
and preloading
near frigate
I've had congested downloads, like for cyberpunk at launch, but nothing like this
nimble sigil
Oh true.
tacit wadi
but yeah, Steam was down for about an hour after Deltarune
Here we're 2 hours in and still waiting
most of us at least
nimble sigil
Anyways, I'm sure they'll fix it eventually. After this long, a few hours more really isn't a problem.
hoary tulip
near frigate
I just got through ||as a gift purchase for my friend||
nimble sigil
Just to clear, are these game spoilers?
elfin ravine
no
tacit wadi
still stuck on "chose a payment method"
near frigate
Actually I might wait on buying for myself tbh
I have stuff I'm in the middle of playing
autumn kettle
ough
elfin ravine
hoary tulip
we just gotta wait
green bone
Out of all the things I expected Skong to have, a ||crafing system|| was not one of them
tacit wadi
Curse my tendency to immediately unspoil things 
thorny bear
inner fog
still stuck in checkout hell
spiral ibex
I’ve been saying to myself that Silksong isn’t released until I’ve got it on my devices, and boy was I right given how it’s trapped in Steam Checkout Hell lol EDIT: ayy checkout worked
tacit wadi
I GOT IN
nimble sigil
Guess they fixed it.
hoary tulip
I’m in…
nimble sigil
Anyways, going into a seclusion until I finish the game. See you people then.
dreamy scarab
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326087305225961472/1413196884360691782/0c9e88ea-e1d8-4b59-9b4a-7583123c141a.png?ex=68bb0da9&is=68b9bc29&hm=e96da98131266f8564371b37889e6a6e40dbdb0c69cd65a882383a3fa3ebbd09& I can't believe Hornet killed Pigmon
inner fog
I'm still stuck 😭
hoary tulip
Okay game obtained see you guys in a few weeks
autumn kettle
goodbye forever my friend
autumn kettle
BUDDY ACQUIRED
god, hornet dair is fucking with me so bad
it's such a neat move though
...i feel like i have missed a dash or something
thorny bear
ten minutes after acquiring that buddy, you shouldn't have it yet
i wonder if "Vren!" will replace "SHAW!"
autumn kettle
||oh, there's the sprint||
elfin ravine
god, hornet dair is fucking with me so bad
the feel of it is very different yeah
autumn kettle
||now i can fight that big fuckass ant bastard||
it's also interesting how many of the starter bosses/enemies casually deal two masks
i like it
but it's scary
second ouppy...
||air-dash is very cute||
thorny bear
sorry, ||NPCs with quests to fight with you in hard bosses?!?||
truly the dark souls of hollow knights
green bone
the feel of it is very different yeah
Some fucker is gonna post a video in 2 weeks of Hornet moving like she Dante from Devil May Cry
autumn kettle
sorry, ||*NPCs with quests to fight with you in hard bosses?!?*||
OH?
THIS GOES CRAZY
elfin ravine
Its ouppy yeah
autumn kettle
okay i think some enemies are double-hitting me
||the big ant guy seems to hit twice sometimes||
||going from full to 0||
okay i'm fucking loving ||the ants as a mantis equivalent||
they look so cool
oh my god
OKAY THIS ONE IS FUCKING HILARIOUS
south marten
I understand why there was so much toxic yuri now...
She laughs at you when she kills you...
brazen steppe
heartbreaking
silksong simplified chinese localization contributed to a large amount of its simplified chinese negative reviews
autumn kettle
myohoho
gleaming reef
Little disappointed the opening shop's ||brooch is misleading. I was expecting a covetous serpent ring effect not an increased currency magnetism range||
😔
thorny bear
god
i don't know if my gaming skills have deteriorated or something
but this fucking ||bird arena|| is giving me so much more trouble than any of the normal ending hollow knight content ever did
tall night
Little disappointed the opening shop's ||brooch is misleading. I was expecting a...
well didnt it say it|| was magnetie and sorta magnet shaped but i do sorta agree, though i dont like when stuff falls into spikepi||t
gleaming reef
Little disappointed the opening shop's ||brooch is misleading. I was expecting a...
Oh actually it's a little better than I thought. The range is the room
It sends all rosaries to you on a delay
south marten
Little disappointed the opening shop's ||brooch is misleading. I was expecting a...
To be fair, ||Gathering Swarm is one of the first charms you can buy in Hollow Knight||
Yeah, it's ||Gathering Swarm|| but Silksong
tall night
my brothers in the same room playing and its hard to not get spoiled by stuff thankfully everything ive seen on his screen is stuff id already seen from promotional videos so far
this is a spoiler thread yes? sick
gleaming reef
Spoiler thread? Yeah there's lots of threads in this game
You should get extra rosaries if you do tricks to avoid the pick-up
spark ether
gotta say I'm feeling really frustrated by the lack of a neutral pogo so far
tall night
its gonna take some getting used to
spark ether
there was one in the trailers, so I know it exists somewhere
but being locked to the directionals does not feel good rn lol
green bone
||God I love how Hornet calls the Bell Beast like a hound|| after the first boss
||holy shit it stamps frustrated if you just wait afterwards||
PUPPY
tall night
wish you could spoiler with a like, how far you are in (not vaguing) cuz im okay with some but not all ya know?
gleaming reef
gotta say I'm feeling really frustrated by the lack of a neutral pogo so far
I think it's to cut down on some of the more severe sequence breaks from HK
You could get the king's crest by pogo-ing off a fly if I remember correctly
spark ether
I gotta be honest that does not justify making the movement feel so much more clunky at all to me
wanton bone
Have it downloaded!
tall night
I LOVE BUGS!
wanton bone
You could get the king's crest by pogo-ing off a fly if I remember correctly
I suspect that even with hornet style movement, that skip still works.
spark ether
like I can accept its a different game with different movement and I just need to get used to it, but if that is actually the reason I'm gonna be fucking pissed lol
gleaming reef
Your reason is probably more correct than my suggestion
They have different gameplay in mind
tall night
i imagine her movement is gonna open up far more than the knights but i agree it feels weird
gleaming reef
Although I have another reason
Her down attack is the same as the hornet enemies from HK
tall night
love the flip out of ledge grab tho
elfin ravine
Her down attack is the same as the hornet enemies from HK
this is I think the main reason
it's a very iconic move for her
green bone
We are also very early in the game
elfin ravine
also that, yeah
green bone
I actually started a new HK file today
elfin ravine
I very much suspect the movement will get much smoother with more abilities
autumn kettle
but this fucking ||bird arena|| is giving me so much more trouble than any of th...
this game is also just
hard
and harder
green bone
and the Knight's initial movement is actively painful even without endgame comparison in a way Hornet's isnt
spark ether
oh random semi related thing I just discovered
tall night
and harder
oooh
spark ether
the ||bell dudes|| in the ||lava|| areas are immune to being pogo'd
gleaming reef
There's a different vibe to the Ghost smashing up every piece of furniture and fencing in the world because it's a soulless bugmonculus
But with Hornet it's like, calm down buddy
Drink your juice
spark ether
cut the girl some slack, she just got kidnapped
I would be angy too in her situation
tacit wadi
Feeling kinda lost on where to go next
gleaming reef
I think up is progress
spark ether
up and to the right so far for me
green bone
Minor visual spoilers for the third zone ||when Hornet holds the map you can see her using a third arm to hold the needle||
south marten
I really hope that whatever trans girl they got to voice the fleas got paid good money to bark and go awoo /j
thorny bear
i'm calling it now: ||when you buy all of the maps, the map merchant is going to offhandedly mention the song she sings is called The|| Silksong
spark ether
||Dash unlocked!!||
south marten
||Dash unlocked!!||
If you hold down the button, ||you keep moving fast!||
unkempt heart
this guy is so annoying, howd you guys beat him? i might just be out of it
spark ether
this guy is so annoying, howd you guys beat him? i might just be out of it
I would explore around the ||deep docks|| more if you haven't. I haven't circled around to fight him again yet, but I imagine what I found there will help signifigantly
unkempt heart
I would explore around the ||deep docks|| more if you haven't. I haven't circled...
I think i remember hearing about that area before but i dont think ive got to there yet
spark ether
ah sorry!
unkempt heart
this guy is so annoying, howd you guys beat him? i might just be out of it
is this fight actually nessescary for progression? i just assumed it was
spark ether
is this fight actually nessescary for progression? i just assumed it was
I was able to leave and progress another way, but I think it still is at some point
gleaming reef
gotta say I'm feeling really frustrated by the lack of a neutral pogo so far
I found the neutral pogo would you like to know where?
spark ether
I would just explore more and then go back to him
you're not even locked in the room with him, you can just leave
spark ether
I found the neutral pogo would you like to know where?
Yes please!!
unkempt heart
you're not even locked in the room with him, you can just leave
yeah, it is kind of funny just rushing away from him
gleaming reef
Yes please!!
||The 500 rosary key in the town unlocks a door across from the elevator down to town, open that door and then go down to a mossy area||
unkempt heart
ive been yearning for a neutral pogo for a while
spark ether
I was able to leave and progress another way, but I think it still is at some po...
oh wait he actually might be totally optional, ||I just found another way into the area I assumed he was guarding||
gleaming reef
||You have to bridge the gap from the elevator by pogo-ing off the fly that's circling the hanging cages, then it's a leap of faith across, it's kinda hard to do.||
Tricky not hard
unkempt heart
oh wait he actually might be totally optional, ||I just found another way into t...
nice
gleaming reef
If you mess up the elevator comes down to get you though
spark ether
oh there
unkempt heart
ill try find the|| deep docks|| but im gonna take a break for now
spark ether
Yeah I was attempting that for a while but I got frustrated by that too and went somewhere else
unkempt heart
I feel like i just need a mothwing cloak to beat him tbh i forgot how useful it was
but yeah i doubt if theres a dash itll be the same
I hope the wave of "where to find every boss in silksong!!!" youtube videos with spoiler bosses on the thumbnail take a while to come out
autumn kettle
god I'm really enjoying the ||far fields|| zone
||the boss there was real neat||
||fourth chorus also goes crazy hard as a name||
tacit wadi
I have reached the ||bloodborne area||
umbral canyon
no spoilers, how far in is the map? IS it past the ||magma area|| or nah?
thorny bear
autumn kettle
no spoilers, how far in is the map? IS it past the ||magma area|| or nah?
i have yet to find one
for ||far fields||, that is
umbral canyon
i've gotten past ||bone bottom|| and haven't found any maps
spark ether
no spoilers, how far in is the map? IS it past the ||magma area|| or nah?
not past
thorny bear
damn, hornet not respecting she/her pronouns? 🤔
tacit wadi
Hornet is home of phobic
autumn kettle
damn, hornet not respecting she/her pronouns? 🤔
where'd you get the ||journal||?
also, did ||fourth chorus|| have any items? i didn't notice any, but that felt weird
tacit wadi
||It does not||
||at least i didnt see any either||
Also the Journal is in the ||bloodborne area inn, forget the name||
||Talk to the slug||
thorny bear
yeah, in ||greymoor||
autumn kettle
haven't found that zone yet
couple hours behind y'all
will keep an eye out for it
thorny bear
it's definitely where the difficulty spike is imo
tacit wadi
Does anyone else feel like getting hit is a lot more punishing?
It feels like more enemies do 2 mask of damage
spark ether
definitely noticing that
I'm dying a lot more to random enemies than I ever did in HK
I keep losing all my rosaries 😭
primal cedar
Ok I love ||Sherma||
autumn kettle
god, the basic enemies in this game are so hardcore
damn, you need six ||pollip hearts?||
gonna take some scouring
thorny bear
||BELLHART?||
if you're there you're way past ||greymoor||. Maybe some nonlinear progression hijinks.
maybe my favorite boss in the series
autumn kettle
if you're there you're way past ||greymoor||. Maybe some nonlinear progression h...
oh
i got there from the left side
thorny bear
huh
autumn kettle
are you supposed to get there from right?
tacit wadi
no
thorny bear
i did, at least
autumn kettle
fascinating
i can't wait to figure out how i get to ||greymoor|| from the other side
i got there from the ||simple key door through the wormways above bonebottom||
gusty storm
its her. hornt from skong
tacit wadi
Well that's ominous
prisma pewter
why does every attack do 2 dmg
honest plank
Lurking
thorny bear
wait do you lose some of your money even if you get back to where you died
i feel like i have less money than i should
tacit wadi
got the ||Reaper Crest||
spark ether
wait do you lose some of your money even if you get back to where you died
that would explain why all the merchants let you bead up your rosaries
rose granite
Boss spoiler thingy for rainy place ||apparently if you find all five fleas you can skip the fight against the big crow boss near greymoor. I do hope that it hasn't fucked up the old knight bug's questline, but was very surprised to see. Wonder if this means the crow boss will come back at a later point or something, or what gives.||
autumn kettle
Boss spoiler thingy for rainy place ||apparently if you find all five fleas you ...
ah shit did i fuck it?
||i seem to have gone to greymoor from both places that don't interact with the boss||
rose granite
ah shit did i fuck it?
In what regard?
autumn kettle
||both from the wormways and from the flea caravan||
||i did find quest boi though||
rose granite
||i seem to have gone to greymoor from *both* places that don't interact with th...
||I don't know lol, playing blind, but honestly it's not that fun a fight anyway aside from the fact that you get to fight with knight bug. The crow has only three moves, getting a fourth at the halfway point, with most of the difficulty coming from dealing 2 hearts worth of damage with every attack when I only have 5 total still.||
autumn kettle
ah
rose granite
So, like, I'm personally fine with this outcome assuming there isn't some kind of ||twist where doing this locks you out of content or kills the knight bug||
||Oh and the runback, unless you complete the reaper's place, is 6 screens long -_-||
I don't think it's a difficult fight per se as much as me getting tired and a little frustrated
Though I do like ||that there are alternate routes, again assuming taking them don't fuck you in the long run, since it makes it actually feel like a metroidvania with multiple options.||
wanton bone
Though I do like ||that there are alternate routes, again assuming taking them d...
I’m really curious how the speedrun will evolve.
wintry tide
The Valve intern that was accidentally inside the server room when Silksong dropped
tacit wadi
Silksong had over 500k players today
rose granite
Also ||I assume that there aren't any truly missable bosses by virtue of there being a quest to fill out your Hunter's Journal||
autumn kettle
||I don't know lol, playing blind, but honestly it's not that fun a fight anyway...
where ||is the boss, anyway?||
||through the bird arena?||
tacit wadi
||the bird is the boss||
thorny bear
it's ||the place where the flea caravan arrives.|| It's possible that if you do that method it never shows up.
rose granite
where ||*is* the boss, anyway?||
||At the gate, where the caravan ends up being||
||wouldn't be surprised if it returns once the caravan leaves||
autumn kettle
damn
||it wasn't there when i got there through shellwood, either||
||unfortunate||
thorny bear
also, at ||sinner's road||, and let me just say
autumn kettle
||which i did before the flea caravan||
thorny bear
what the fuck team cherry
gleaming reef
autumn kettle
i'm so fucking fascinated by this
gleaming reef
thorny bear
that's ominous!
I promise you will know exactly what I'm talking about when you get to it
rose granite
||it wasn't there when i got there through shellwood, either||
||suppose we'll see if you meet them again later. Wouldn't be surprised if it happens.||
rose granite
https://bsky.app/profile/shaunvids.bsky.social/post/3ly23krva4s2y
Also was curious to see if there even were an act 2, and found out through Google that apparently someone has already uploaded an endings video. Didn't watch it ofc ;p, but suppose some folk have fun with data mining.
autumn kettle
man
the ||savage beastfly has been kicking my ass||
dunno why
||i think it's because it's like. the exact same moveset as that one elite enemy from HK||
autumn kettle
alright, ||crest of the beast|| get
still don't have mantis claw (or whatever replaces it) though 
there are so fucking many HEY DID YOU KNOW YOU'LL GET A WALL CLING spots
as is right and proper for a metroidvania
but i want it :(
autumn kettle
oh wait
i'm dumb
i died to the ||shellwood|| boss
and then never came back because i got distracted by nine other zones
tacit wadi
||Moorwing would be so much easier if I didn't have to trek from the Bar everytime I die||
autumn kettle
any advice for the ||moorwing||
i may have permanently locked myself out of it
i hope i haven't
rose granite
||Moorwing would be so much easier if I didn't have to trek from the Bar everyti...
||You can get a shorter spawn if you complete the reaper chapel first, but you're locked into reaper style then because as soon as you sit down you can't regain the chapel spawn||
tacit wadi
||You can get a shorter spawn if you complete the reaper chapel first, but you'r...
||Already did that, and I can't do the reaper temple again after sitting on a bench||
gleaming reef
Man the runback on the red shell area is brutal
tacit wadi
||Is hunter better than reaper?||
rose granite
||Beyond that, the fight itself isn't too complex. I managed to skip it accidentally due to the fleas, but they only have 3 attacks in the firs phase and 4 in the second.||
||The slashes is easy to punish and stays th same between both phases.||
||The swoop is similarly easy to punish for phase 1, and fairly straightforward for phase 2 even with the air ball they throw at the end||
||The air ball attack of the first and second phase is the most deadly one, with the second phase being especially problematic due to the second ball curving up very quickly. Dangerous thing, and what will be the most difficult to learn to dodge.||
||The twin balls for the second phase looks difficult at first, but just requires you to jump twice (or float if you want to) to dodge||
autumn kettle
||the little parkour zone after sister splinter is fun||
rose granite
I was tired whilst fighting, ||and thus accidentally skipped it to do something else for a bit ;p||, but honestly the only part that felt actually difficult about it was the ||2 hearts of damage on every attack||.
tacit wadi
yeah I don't like how damage scale so far tbh
rose granite
I'm tempted to run a second save file ||just to complete that fight proper||, but eh we'll get through the game and see how it goes. Too early to cast judgement.
rose granite
yeah I don't like how damage scale so far tbh
Tbh I think that fight is moreso an exception in terms of difficulty as it seems like a deliberate spike.
thorny bear
yeah i'm gonna be honest, i'm really not a fan of "just make everything do 2 damage lol" as a main source of difficulty in the game
rose granite
||since they do have an NPC there specifically to help you with it||
rose granite
yeah i'm gonna be honest, i'm really not a fan of "just make everything do 2 dam...
It does feel funky that I'm at 2/4 masks so far for an additional heart, and will be needing 6 more before I effectively get another hit against a decent chunk of bosses. I do know where to get 1 more, and have seen another but can't reach it seemingly, but still.
More fine with it on the very telegraphed ones ||but I'm not sad to have missed Moorwing potentially||
I'm expecting there to be a lot of tougher bosses down the line, but I wouldn't be surprised to see ||Moorwing|| end up as one of the less popular ones. Suppose we'll see.
umbral canyon
man that boss in ||the marrow|| has hands. no idea how you're supposed to dodge its jump attacks
rose granite
man that boss in ||the marrow|| has hands. no idea how you're supposed to dodge ...
Which one?
umbral canyon
there's no name announcement for it. it's the uh, one above the ||dollmaker's house where you free the thief||
i could try jump attacking away from it but there legitimately doesn't seem to be a damage window where i'm safe if that's the case and i doubt i'm supposed to kill it with knives and spears
rose granite
there's no name announcement for it. it's the uh, one above the ||dollmaker's ho...
Oh, do you have a screenshot of it? Might've missed that one.
umbral canyon
uhhh, one sec
rose granite
Since I don't remember something major there, but did find the area a bit sparse.
tacit wadi
||Are they the Ant boss?||
spark ether
Oh yeah he's annoying
rose granite
Ah, yeah haven't fought that one yet. Will have to go back and do so then.
thorny bear
my tier ranking of bosses so far:
MM - B+
BB - B+
L - A-
FC - A
MW - C-
SS - A-
GCf - B+
W - S
spark ether
this fucker
Have you explored down and to the right of him?
umbral canyon
Have you explored down and to the right of him?
the ||dollmaker's house with the thief, right?|| yes, i think i have if you're referring to that
rose granite
my tier ranking of bosses so far:
MM - B+
BB - B+
L - A-
FC - A
MW - C-
SS - A-
...
Y'know, I think it's a bit early to be using acronyms for them even if I get that it's to avoid spoilers lol.
spark ether
the ||dollmaker's house with the thief, right?|| yes, i think i have if you're r...
Further than that
umbral canyon
i have not! will do so
spark ether
There's a pickup in that general direction that will help a ton
umbral canyon
yeah, this seems like a 'black knight' type boss tbh
thorny bear
welcome to the 0.2%
(until steam refreshes the stats)
easter egg discovered: ||if you play music at a travel station, it will summon the beast, and it will sing along||
prisma pewter
||WHAT THE FUCK SKULL TYRANT KILLED BELL BOTTOM||
spark ether
the double whammy of more restricted healing and double damage enemies being signifigantly more common is really fucking frustrating to me
hollow elm
I think the damage would be more bearable if healing wasn't so restricted. Really puts a focus on not getting hit
gleaming reef
The 12 screen runbacks are really getting on my nerves
Also you know exactly when I might like to go to a shop and rework my build?
Right after dying to an encounter
You know what I can't do when all my money gets stuck across the map in a locked room
gleaming reef
||it's got a big bone club with spikes||
Thank you for repping the Watto fucking dies PFP it really fixed my mood
primal cedar
God the new pogo is tough to get right
autumn kettle
HMMMMMMMMMMM
autumn kettle
God the new pogo is tough to get right
i suggest picking up ||the small key|| at ||the starting shop||
||you get access to an area west of spawn that gives you HK1 pogo||
primal cedar
I keep missing it, and using it is such a big positioning commitment as opposed to the vessel down slash
hollow elm
God the new pogo is tough to get right
The limited distance is the part tripping me the most, the angle is consistent.
primal cedar
i suggest picking up ||the small key|| at ||the starting shop||
... How far in is this spoiler, before I open it
autumn kettle
HMMMMMM
autumn kettle
... How far in is this spoiler, before I open it
technically, minute 0
primal cedar
Huh. Alright, I'll take it
autumn kettle
more accurately, about like
an hour in
but it's something you can interact with immediately
inner fog
yo anyone know where to find a bone tyrant
thorny bear
i'm feeling genuinely frustrated right now, going to put the game down for today
hollow knight did have some very difficult content, but it was pretty late into the game once you had a lot of tools at your disposal. And it always made a point to not make you do too much annoying backtracking. It wasn't "hey here's an area filled with dozens of unpredictable enemies that all take 20 hits to kill, get through 10 minutes without a bench ||but if you do sit at the bench it immediately kills you||, get fucked idiot"
also it feels like there's much less sense of progression than hollow knight
maybe i'm just being very unperceptive and missing important stuff, but i'm seven hours in and trying my best to check for secrets, and I haven't gotten any mask upgrade, silk upgrade, needle upgrade, or very useful combat charm
hollow elm
It does feel like picking up from Hollow Knight in difficulty, have to adjust a lot more for encounters.
tacit wadi
my main gripe is the whole "every other enemy (and every boss) does 2 damage" thing
thorny bear
Vessel getting skewered by a mantis lord flying at it max speed: one damage
Hornet touching a small stationary bell: two damage
also is there any decent way to make money
i've had to go out of my way to farm and sell all the consumable money items just to afford maps and benches, let alone having anything for permanent upgrades
autumn kettle
maybe i'm just being very unperceptive and missing important stuff, but i'm seve...
you've missed a lot then, yeah
autumn kettle
also is there any decent way to make money
yes
||the polearm-wielding warrior ants|| in ||hunter's march|| drop 25 apiece
and there's a quick run to one of em
by a bench
i've found one of each of the things you've mentioned
tacit wadi
||Where's Hunter;s Marchs?||
thorny bear
ah, so it is just "farm an enemy dozens of times per mask shard/key"
autumn kettle
yeah but that's HK too
or you could scour for relics, which exist here as well
but i haven't found as many
prisma pewter
the runback for ||the last judge is insane||
thorny bear
i never felt any need to farm in hollow knight, even getting the lantern
autumn kettle
huh
thorny bear
largely since all bosses and enemies drop money in that game
and relics are an enormous part of the economy, though i admit i haven't found where to sell them in silksong
autumn kettle
true enough
autumn kettle
and relics are an enormous part of the economy, though i admit i haven't found w...
||same place you get your first nail upgrade||
you should have access to it
since you mentioned ||sinner's road||
and i literally just got there right before tabbing out just now
it's ||from a nearby place that you're def supposed to do before sinner's road||
tacit wadi
I feel lost, the only way forward I know is ||through the Moorwing||
autumn kettle
i wish i could fight it :(
tall night
something apart from hornets movement ive had to adjust for is it feels like average nonboss enemies take less knockback, they just keep coming so i have to be more careful positioning fighting each one? idk
at least compared to HK1 before i got dash i kept just flippingi and letting her fall and on enemies
autumn kettle
does anybody know how to get to this part of ||greymoor?||
tacit wadi
||Topple, how did you get to the non-greymoor upper levels?||
hollow elm
something apart from hornets movement ive had to adjust for is it feels like ave...
It definitely feels like Hornet lacks knockback on swings, or enemies have more weight.
I sorta suspect she has the equivalent of Steady Body, too.
autumn kettle
||Topple, how did you get to the non-greymoor upper levels?||
||like, on the left side?||
||are you talking about shellwood or bellhart?||
autumn kettle
i'm pretty sure you can go from ||bellhart|| to there
but the way i got to it was ||from the simple key door above bonebottom||
||through the wormways||
tacit wadi
gotcha, thanks
I feel like I softlocked myself because I have no rosaries and have no way to farm them
thorny bear
it's ||from a nearby place that you're def supposed to do before sinner's road||
where's the nearby place? i've searched everywhere in the adjacent area
also, huh. that's ||one unit. The meter upgrades only extend your meter by one ninth.||
autumn kettle
where's the nearby place? i've searched everywhere in the adjacent area
||bellhart||
umbral canyon
ok, the ||sprint|| feels fuckin good in this game
umbral canyon
There's a pickup in that general direction that will help a ton
you're right, way easier with that pickup, ty
brave flower
THIS TOOL IS FUCKED
||does it double your damage taken||
||do you take four fucking masks sometimes||
brave flower
AWESOME
brave flower
thats genuinely incredibly fucking funny
brave flower
THIS TOOL IS FUCKED
i have decided that this is made out of ||the path of pain||
autumn kettle
it's certainly interesting!
gleaming reef
||Savage Beastfly|| is fucking bullshit
As soon as minions spawn it becomes complete RNG
tacit wadi
I gotta stop clicking spoilers
gleaming reef
This boss is so fucking inconsistent too
brave flower
WHAT IN THE FUCK
what the fuck is even that
thorny bear
lost $400 to ||savage beastfly|| since it decided to start the fight with two charges at exactly the wrong height to fly over before i grabbed my body
and the only reason i started it in the first place was to get money to finally get a single dang mask upgrade
ok
putting down the game for the time being for real now
autumn kettle
unfort
understandable, though
||beastfly|| is a bastard of a boss
also, I WANT YOU
goddammit i need wings
or whatever the equivalent is
grapple or a temp platform to pogo off or whatever
OH MY GOD?????
THE FUCKING SLAB
autumn kettle
||there was an enemy in a wall cling place in the hollow...||
gleaming reef
lost $400 to ||savage beastfly|| since it decided to start the fight with two ch...
He sucks and the reward for beating him sucks
autumn kettle
NYEHEHEHEHEHEH
autumn kettle
He sucks and the reward for beating him sucks
i like the ||path of the beast tbh||
thorny bear
NYEHEHEHEHEHEH
next TTRPG character name
(also i should really stop auto-clicking spoilers in the channel of a game i'm playing through, huh)
hollow elm
Feels like I'm taking a crowbar to some of these bosses/mini-bosses
prisma pewter
anyone beaten ||the last judge|| boss at the ||top of|| ||blasted steppes||
thorny bear
i got to it like two hours of playtime ago
then went on a quick five minute in-and-out adventure to get my sixth mask
autumn kettle
alas, this is all of my progress
man
these roaches are fucked
especially with the ||barbed bracelet||
hm
i'd actually like some guidance on this one
does anybody know where i can find simple keys, other than the one sold in bonebottom?
thorny bear
so how long until a mod that makes you SHAW every down air
brave flower
does she in fact go SHAW
autumn kettle
not as far as i've seen
gusty storm
has anybody found the lore that explains what's going on with ||Weavers|| and why I've seen screenshots of ||Withered lifeblood plants in pharloom|| and whether or not there is any ||void/ancient abyssal civilization stuff||
thorny bear
there's some interesting lore on that topic in a certain boss's journal text
but otherwise I'd say keep playing and discover
gusty storm
but otherwise I'd say keep playing and discover
I'm not playing it, I don't like sidescrollers. I just like the lore and worldbuilding
autumn kettle
does anybody know where i can find simple keys, other than the one sold in boneb...
welp, found one
thorny bear
I know you can get one ||from a mini boss in the coliseum basement, on the northeast corner of the map||
autumn kettle
ooh
i haven't found ||a colosseum yet||
i've just gotten the one ||at the top of sinner's road||
ah, damn, i totally missed the ||craw|| boss
thorny bear
i haven't found ||a colosseum yet||
(I was doing a bit, sorry. it was the first HK one I thought of.)
autumn kettle
:(
hm.
i don't actually know where to progress now
i thought there would be progress at the end of ||sinner's road||, but it was just an interesting and weird npc
and i need ||wings or something for the other option||
thorny bear
did you max out ||the mini game in Marrow, below the ant entrance?||
autumn kettle
||the ladybugs?||
||they only had two minigames on offer for me, when i checked||
||neither was a key or prog related||
||maybe they'll have a third now?||
thorny bear
||oh I only beat the first one and assumed the second would be progress||
autumn kettle
nah, it was ||just a 220 rosary||
thorny bear
I'm assuming you can't get to the waypoint on your map
autumn kettle
not as far as i'm aware
there might be a route i can hit right here?
not sure if this was something i could reach
it's my next check
thorny bear
not sure if you're past me, have you ||used the music you got from Widow||?
autumn kettle
yeah, in a couple places, but neither was prog yet
autumn kettle
i've found ||two weavenests that weren't prog||
and then ||an inaccessible door in the wormways that needs a vertical movement tool (double jump or something similar)||
thorny bear
||northwest corner of the woods||, iirc
autumn kettle
hm, i feel like i've missed a couple mask shards
i'm still at 2/4, working on my 7th
at ||blasted steppes||
feels like i've missed some places
OH
FOUND ||LAST JUDGE||
ZAMN
before i go for try number three, is there a bench before it or is the runback just brutal?
umbral canyon
ok, the ||big firebomb fuckers|| in the ||deep docks|| are a bit much lol
hidden flame
ok, the ||big firebomb fuckers|| in the ||deep docks|| are a bit much lol
Which ones?
umbral canyon
the ||bell headed flying ones|| that toss the ||2 damage yellow bombs||
i can deal, i see what the point of them is, they're a bit much all the same
autumn kettle
damn, this boss is super cool
hidden flame
||They only do one damage to me||
prisma pewter
how do you ||fix the bench|| in ||sinners road||
thorny bear
left wall
near lynx
Man this game might be one of the hardest games I've every played. Team cherry said "ahh yall thought life was sweet with the mods and added difficulties huh we see you" the path of pain 2 is going to kill me
hidden flame
You're deathless so far!!!!!?!??!!??!
autumn kettle
?
hidden flame
If it takes the Path of Pain 2 to kill you, you are a very good gamer
hot mango
I’ve been dying so many times
hidden flame
Saaaaame
hot mango
I keep losing Rosaries and not being able to buy anything T-T
Vague Minor Spoilers: ||Bench and Stag Tolls are back. With a vengeance.||
hidden flame
It is not an easy game
hot mango
||I had to backtrack and grind specific enemies that actually dropped Rosaries to unlock the bench before a boss. So I didn’t have to run back such a huge distance each time||
hidden flame
I've only|| had benches cost 30 so far, which isn't too bad||
hot mango
||It’s not that the benches are expensive, like they don’t cost more than 50 in the part of the game I’m in. The problem is I keep dying and losing my rosaries, and rosaries are actually pretty rare now||
||Cause unlike Geo, not every enemy drops Rosaries||
||I was even rationing my bone shards after becoming too trigger happy with Pins against a boss over several attempts||
hidden flame
This is why the frayed rosary chains are great
hot mango
Yeah but there are less of those than I expected
hot mango
hm, i feel like i've missed a couple mask shards
I’m like 9 hours in, and have a grand total of. 1 mask shard. And 1 spool upgrade.