#Blood of Kings
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Howdy
Alright folks I made the ad post
Enjoy
Oh yeah here’s the full meme if anyone wants it
Do we want to come up with nicknames for the squad?
Yeah you guys need a squad name!
Could be something simple, I think you guys should go for something buggy lol
my immedate thought was "proper fucking lancers" but
oh i love that lmao
Zhao did call you proper lancers
excatly!
Are we playing tomorrow?
I believe so
hell yea
smooshes them together now kith
What is this art? These are gorgeous.
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Ah shit they dropped the pilot? I gotta watch this.
It’s really good
Yeah its pretty good
Moar
That moment when you realize who the "knights" of Guinevere are
Also I LOOOVE Frankie!!
slowly plotting out threads for Peat and laughing evilly at work
Oh boy, money!
i am
so impatient to leave work holy RA
also as for team names
i keep having "The Dead Alreadys" stuck in my head
one and a half hours...
soon.......
okay guys!
@spice gulch @raven fossil @crude raptor @dreamy cove summoning my pokemon team here
HORUS hangout!
we ride
bwa
whats everyones soundtrack for this session?
Twenty One Pilots - Breach [specifically City Walls, and rn, Center Mass]
nice nice
yall know how the enclave support sheild says it makes rounds skip away on a random trajectory, so i imagine that the superior intellengence is just leveraging that to redirect allied shots towards their intended target
Comic moment: pyro missing 3 targets including an IMMOBILE TURRET but still hitting the seeder
WA: "1/turn, when you attack with a Main ranged weapon, you may expend charges to apply one of the following effects to your attack at the listed cost." (1 usage)
Sharanga: "This weapon can attack two targets at a time" (1 attack)
1 attack = 1 usage
as a rule of thumb-- you choose your mech name, but your callsign is assigned
in world
round 3 start PC activation
Update: Hivemind's Turret Drones are apparently unhittable.
Updated comic idea: unhittable turret drones
we gon get gta 6 livestreamed from a base on the Moon before wallflower pt 2
This is true
Fuck. I missed the sit in. How'd it go.
My saba and kiara hololive merch will arrive before wallflower 2 (no thanks to the Clown in Chief's Big Beautiful Blockade)
Oh gods, I gotta know the stories behind "Hivemind," "Pyrite," and "Notus."
Notus is probably an assigned codename of sorts, so they didn’t have to use its full designation in reports and such
This tracks tbh
Swarm of bees
I'm listening.
Maybe a beehive fell on her head?
That's definitely embarrassing enough to warrant a callsign.
100%
Why do I get the feeling it'd be Pyrite that came up with it?
Speaking of Pyrite, I have an idea for how Peat got that callsign.
Found "gold" once, thought he was rich, turns out the whole thing was pyrite.
@raven fossil
Gold is pretty worthless in any sort of interstellar economy tbh
Depends on the planet
I mean if it’s still used in electronics
And I mean the post scarcity is really only in the core worlds
Yeah Union seems kinda fraudulent ngl
I mean Long Rim is I think the best splat and its ALL ABOUT crushing poverty/scarcity in space
They're doing their best.
I mean union does it’s best but
Union are genuinely trying to be the good guys. Bureaucracy takes time.
Guys I got a squad name idea
And it’s not like they can force people to join they had a whole revolution about that
"The Night Shift"
I do like that
Honestly Long Rim could be transplanted into the Alien franchise and you wouldn't need to change anything about it
Cepheus' Hostile is a cool setting too
Mothership is rad
Anti optimistic scifi is always an interesting take. Still, Union in Lancer is laughably inepet, incompetent, and impotent. No wonder Miguel said its not utopia and he regrets using that word.
Ngl I rip on it but still ig its worth it for a Union official landing on an impoverished planet/crumbling space station and pulling a "ensign, ensure everyone here has a blanket by sundown" scene.
Still
I feel most scifi nowadays is either sellout rehashed slop or
Blatant doomerism
Which is rapidly becoming realism (soz for any negativity had a rough week)
I do appreciate that Lancer tries to avoid the entire Grimdark esthetic that sci-fi seems to love
Honestly I think anti-optimistic is separate from ""grimdark[derp]""
W40k is basically Berserk in space. Its a dark fantasy with a space themed coat of paint.
Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora is anti-optimistic
Alien is anti optimistic.
Anti optimistic scifi shows a grimy future devoid of even pretended glory, and whether, say, gravity is generated by plot-tech "grav generator" or interstellar travel by "warp drives" or cryoships is irrelevant because its about how we will continue to be the same hyperaggressive barely sapient gits no matter how many fancy toys we have.
Alien is a horror movie, of course it's pessimistic.
Yeah. It's also about workplace r*pe culture.
Seems I missed siomething
isnt the long rim ma thing because most folks want out of union, or to be away from it?
Union's got no authority there
Nah, the Long Rim's the edge of Union Space.
Where their reach is...tenuous, to say the least
It's where people go to be forgotten, to be left alone or to try and make it big, if they think highly enough of themselves. Problem with post-scarcity in Union is it leaves a lot less room for people who want to be better off than everyone else.
Now that people start being born there in a bad situation they didn't choose, Union starts to think maybe they should do something about it. Most people there don't like Union too much though, so that complicates things.
[Also responding to WaterDragon] The Long Rim isn't some kind of voluntary poverty zone. It's a locale completely based on crippling poverty and scarcity in space that exists because a. fixed gate based ftl is by definition exclusionary and b. Union can't settle space effectively.
It's Space Yancy Street.
And yes, I love the book but then again I still think it says something about portraying utopia in media that utopia isn't really a place you can adventure in, and so the archetypal Frontier ( ie the Long Rim is needed)
(But this is another discussion altogether)
Close, but wrong
Peat got the codename due to having shut down a despot during negotiations on integration of a non-core planet, one where said despot considered him to be "worth his weight in gold" as he thought he was on his side.
He was not.
Eventually it leads to said rule collapsing in on itself, but that's a different story involving another Lancer of mine.
Nice
Also I'm gonna tldr my thoughts on the Long Rim to "it's basically a weird area of space that's kind of both unexplored, explored, and Harrison is trying to push into it to get an edge up in settling the dawnline shore, which is also a rush alongside the KTB and a hellscape of its own"
it's shit. it's a shit place full of things going on, and it's basically just the wild west in space
this isn't bad, but basically it's nigh impossible to control because Union unfortunately can't take the proper time to make sure everywhere around the Rao Co is fine when HA and the KTB may be commiting crimes on the Shore
but anyways there's your niblet of Peat lore
Neat
finally making those demo edits today, got an hour of free time
ill post the changelog here
Fixed a bit of formatting
Added new dialogue to mission 2 to build up Kingmaker Squad a bit before mission 5
Removed Windvale
Added Windvale back
Gave a better reason for PCs to run off to the second combat of Mission 2
demo updated
Also, did some math, assuming we can get through each mission in aound 2-3 sessions, I see us ending this playtest at about 3-4 months assuming we're good at our jobs
If you guys had to think up a color scheme for Hivemind, what would it be?
I mean, obvious answer is black and yellow/gold
Decided to make Hivemind's Hydra in Retrograde Minis...
I can't download it because I'm not a patron for them
Something Wicked This Way Comes
And I got her drone suite made too
The Lobotomy corp series is basically about living and working in a metavault
Honestly, I think In Golden Flame is probably the best fanmade adventure ever, but it's interesting how it makes Union out to be even more absurdly inept than its already portrayed as in canon.
Besides the whole ""deliberately ignoring Hell's Gate"" thing, the Union characters regularly come across as the most whiny, navel gazing, and insufferable people ever. IGF was also the one where Union lost so badly to a irl aughts level society they allowed chassis to be captured and somehow reverse engineered, they got caught in a grinding ground war, and basically were powerless to stop multiple genocides.
Like, in the Vex-verse they can't even manage what they did in Winter Scar
So in general I'm not sure how intentional that is
I am very confused as to why you're posting this here...?
Yep
Gr8
yep! we're all still here!
this is deemed disinformation, and anti blood of kings activity, sieze them
GUARDS!
SIEZE THEM! THEY HAVE BETRAYED THE PLAYTEST
(I would like to ask discussion of other campaigns and modules be kept to their specific thread, as this is about BOK now IGF
Got it got it
yep!
I dont think there will be many scouts in this
i can only thing of about... three
tomorrow...
i may not be able to make it cus im going to a watch party for the homestuck animated pilot tmo with some freinds, yall continue on without me
if you are sure, and if everyone else is!
im downnn
I have been informed that my wife will need to borrow my PC tomorrow, so I probably won't be able to be here
Oh no the one viv is making?
I can make it!
ye!
ye i dont wanna hold up the playtest!
Alright
Well, if only two of you can make it, then we won’t ply
(Guys please lock in we need to finish this some day pleeeeeeeease)
But yeah, maybe…
Are you free Sunday?
@crude raptor @dreamy cove @spice gulch @raven fossil apologies for the late nighter but are you all free Sunday perhaps?
I can
I am fully free sunday
I'm good for tomorrow.
Alright!
So, Pagan, Petra, and Effffe!
Sunday!
7PM EST
Be there, or be square
Everyone good with that?
I can't wait to get my Hydra.
yeppu
Ye
Well this is embarassing
Computer restarted and somehow I lost my character even logged in??
Tl dr
I think I need someone to share my code with me again
Yep!
Hm alright, and it’s still gone? Def report that to the folks at the compcon dev team
I should have your build on me
i may actually be able to make it, we'll have to see
Could you pm the code pls? Thx!
Npnp
3ish hours…
soon..
SOON [now]
Looking like not currently
Will be delayed by about 15 min
yep
Will be in shortly
I may be able to make it, but I will be late, y’all start without me and if I’m there I’m there
I am here, but I need a minute.
Eta 5 min
👍
fuck discord is lagging so hard and wont start
@wary apex There's a side door that has restrooms on the side
Hol on restarting eta 2 min
LAND-DOG THE GRAND SEQUEL
hell yeah
I couldn't find a normal clip of this scene on youtube, so I thought I'd post the one I used.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Comic idea: the Monarch's serenade
Saladin
got it got it
NOTUS rn
fuck yea
I might switch the Monarch to a Viceroy at some indeterminate point (do I unlock the Viceroy frame as well as the Monarch frame at LL2 or can I only ever choose one?)
(ie how alt frames work?)
i think you get both right?
checks out
The OROCHI Drones have 16, and the Tempest and Turret Drones have 15.
you know the "i owe muscle man so much money" im picturing that but its notus
silksong memories
UHLZUB [new code] @wary apex
LFRSRD
i feel like with the addtion of sheild of the legion notus has become so much more of an irritant
I love that, due to this scene being on a bridge, the Tempest drone is basically just a bowling ball.
Yeah basically
Oh shit IT IS
Also
I'm been working on a couple new templates for personal games
the Oceanic and the Terrorist
Might post them in general chat soon
As an aside to the game: I think Mario would have been very surprised at how he got his new mech, because iirc no printers exist on Etrusca(?)
"Wow it was that easy?!"
"Aye, we jus' kinda print things."
Yeah the only printers are union controlled, I have to imagine Mario watching his mech be printed in awe
Ye I forgor abt that but was too focused on him immediately rushing off to the serenade with his new sound system
It was peak tho dw
it was indeed peak
Thankies~~
Anti optimistic scifi
Are folks alright to play tomorrow? Saturday 7:00
ye! i should be good!
@dreamy cove @crude raptor @raven fossil today!
Wooooo
7:00est
That’s fine, seems like we’ve got enough to continue the playtest
today!
today
soon!!!!
Soon!!!!
we'll be invading IPS-N hangout
o7
There are campaign rooms we could use, too.
i dont really care one way or the other
A train blocking 10 min late maybe
i am ready
gonna be muted, getting water rq
we'll wait for u!
I forgot-- +1 has Custom Paint Job on LAND DOG THE GRAND SEQUEL (the picture is of a beautiful stylized musical notes going all up and down the Monarch. A small artistic portrait of Zhou is drawn on one of the wings.)
Comic idea: FINAL DESTINATION MARIO
Mario destination
I think I can say after this session
In terms of a release date, with the playtest speed and some things I’ll rework for balance
I think we’ve got a release for early 2026 ready
hell yea!
Yep, it’ll certainly take some time, but I also have classes to handle so it’s how it’s
But I am excited for when it eventually does release
same im excited!
Rad!
The power armor Ghenghis https://www.tumblr.com/squishkitt/780110560105742336/ha-chagatai-aka-genghis-mk3-developed-with
WE ARE THE BROTHERHOOD. OF. STEEL.
WHERE IS YOUR CHAGATAI, SOLDIER?!?!
Union Auxiliary Unit 382, attached to Battlegroup Sandman, serving aboard Light In Shining Dark, unofficial designation, "Union's Hand." Lieutenant Elspeth McCormick, reporting. Callsign, "Hivemind."
YOU WILL BE SERVING THE COLONIAL LEGIONNAIRES FOR FIIIIIIIVE HUNDRED YEARS. BECAUSE THAT IS HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO REPLCE A SUIT OF MARK 3 GHENGIS ARMOR.
Hey I have a question: Are we Union Navy or DoJ/HR?
i assumed we were navy
As did I
Either works tbh
They are two different entities, but noted.
Double checked my writings, the PCs are a DOJ auxilliary group that was in the area, and was called in to try and help with the Situation of Etrusca
so is my basically playing the game wrong for all our sessions til last week going to mess anything up?
no thats also another allowed plot hook
Theres two plot hooks for PCs, DOJ auxilliary and Etruscan Royal Army transfer
DOJ/HR, yay
Union Department of Justice and Human Rights
Oh God, we very well might be a fuckin Liberator Team.
And then Maaario~~
fun fact thats actually the name of a combat
"The Department of Justice and Human Rights" is the name of the final fight of Mission 5
hell yea
Oh, hey, just wanted to inform you guys that my Saturday has freed up for a bit, so I'll be able to make it earlier now.
Soz i cant make it this time
6 would work perfectly fine
Pls keep up the rizz tho for Mario!
Alright, can everyone else make it tomorrow at 6?
maybe
Up to you guys, I'm free after work today for the most part.
Well, we gotta k ow who’s free
You are
Efffe isn’t
Squid’s a maybe, @raven fossil ? If not that’s fine, and if not would you all be okay with changing to Sunday for this week?
i think id be good for sunday, and ill know if im free when I know when something else that im going to today actually Is
Gotcha! No pressure
ill lyk as soon i have more information
I have a shift 12-5 and a dinner after that but from there on I’m free
I can make it tonight
Sundays from now on I may or may not be able to work, as I started a new job and tomorrow is 3-10PM
but tonight is a yes cause only training from 12-4 
my things at 5 i dont think im gonna be able to make it today yall, sorry
Its gr8 you got a new job!
i cant no, sorry
No Sunday? Sad
not this sunday at least, subsequent sundays are a different matter
Alright, I think we gotta postpone this week then
damn :(
buh
HA Colonial's dedicated colony-forward mechs HA Cortes and the variant Pizarro when
So next Saturday can folks try and make ot?
I can
God bless you effe
i absolutely can
Should be able to.
Not...exactly, no.
That is to say, is the number of sapient slaves Union tolerates a number other than zero?
How would NOTUS explain it, do you think?
Not if it can help it.
NHPs are shackled to make them have empathy and compassion towards humans; an unshackled NHP acts with alien logic. Shackled NHPs prefer being shackled to the alternative, as it turns out cascading is very decidedly not fun. It turns out ego death is a very unpleasant experience.
Oh for sure
I just know some ppl have portrayed shackling as innately evil and tantamount to slavery
Ie Sirens Song Mountains Remorse, where shackling NHPs is basically portrayed as a 1:1 parallel of the American enslavement of Africans (fwiw I'm black so make of that what you will)
by that SHAKA guy
Wuh? Sirens song L? Shackling is… not that I don’t think? I subscribe to position A here where NHPs like it because otherwise they cannot be happy and have human friends etc
Yeah SHAKA has some real hot takes on NHPs
Sirens song is kinda nonsensical if you think about it
Shackled NHPs will follow orders because they want to.
If Joe Schmo gives an order to a shackled NHP, the NHP has every ability to tell him to go fuck himself.
I mean (and lmk celt if you want me to step off here bc this is your thread)
Shackling is not portrayed as a 1:1 parallel in SSMR, SSC's legal and social treatment of NHPs in the specific context that is the Farm is what is portrayed as a parallel, and it's deliberately not 1:1, it uses language that specifically evokes that as a way of drawing the parallel but specifically outlines that the case is not completely identical, in the same way that Wallflower often uses language very evocative of the Vietnam war but does not draw a 1:1 comparison between the HUC and Viet Cong
I personally read the takes on shacking in SSMR as being very descended from a particular critical approach on identity and the nature of its formation under methods of oppression, but in a "shackling is like Black Skin, White Masks" way, not a "shackling is literally slavery" way
I just know that SHAKA has very.... hardline interpretations of NHP rights and Union in general
ie in the FG to Mfecane, he basically bashes Union, and the explicitly imperialist Aun are the good guys in his view
I'm not sure that's my read of Mfecane either (I don't read him as ascribing a hard good guy/bad guy line on Union and the Aun??), but either way, I recommend the context of this post where he posted his explicit thoughts on the intent with what he's trying to say w SSMR
And in the comments is a review that basically takes him apart.
Ngl the Mfecane is basically an AI dictatorship and ethnostate but thats just like my opinion dude
Anyways celt I rly like how you are writing a story where Union is unequivocally the good guys on their own merit
A bit tired of the recent Union bashing from.... every other 3pp module.
(Yet another OSR+OWS W but that's first party)
Hm?
PCs are Union Navy mech pilots in a conflict where Union is pretty much entirely in the right
Even get some folks bending around protocol to take action (in a good way) and weaponizing red tape against the Corpos (once again, in a good way)
Oh ok i get it
Doh I just realized I read OSR as Old School Renaissance and not as the Solstice Rain and Winter Scar duology
All good
The Cressidium Arc™
(I remeber asking Kai if there was a name for both together and they said no)
(It's horrible I have to make one up every time)
The Cressidian Crisis
The Criss-Cross Cressidium Sauce
dang you really snuck in when I wasnt looking smh, ur fine continue
Always :)
I am a proud Union citizen if Union has no defenders I am DEAD\
sorry I didnt see this earlier I had school and family things yesterday
Havent read OWS but I know they are p good stories
Union #1
Im also sad I cant find an emote for the GMS logo
I will try to be more active here I just got a lot to do with my classes
If I had to give my fave faction, Union, especially the DOJ are easily my fave, tied with Albatross
But the DOJ/HR is one of my favorite fictional miltiary organizations, purely because of why they fight. They don't fight for money, or to control, but for ideas, and the basic human rights of everyone in the stars
which comment? Poking through the post now
The really long one that begins with "if you were looking for more positivity probably don't read this" or something like it
~~ in comparison the UNSC is just USAmerican world takeover military propaganda, and even the UFP honestly is just too badly warped by the sellout era to rly mean anything to anyone anymore~~
tl dr Union is the new ideal of utopia in progress imho
what even IS GMS' logo?
thats right
(the first one haha)
although ngl I'm still kinda sad that the route to Union involved collapsing ass backwards into the dark ages
its unfortunate, and then there was the whole
SecComm Coup
which also sucked major leagues
i think that sort of says something that even the most optimistic shit nowadays involves the acknowledgement that modern society is absolutely fucked
SecComm sucked major ass, yeah, but they lost the war
ThirdComm came up, and beat them. Did it take a while? Yeah. Did thirdcomm even exist when this all started? Nope. But is the lancer universe a whole lot beetter off with ThirdComm then without? IMO yes, definetly, absolutely
(I was talking about the initial collapse and the 10)
Like, if you think about it, there's a tremendous amount of future history in Lancer that is basically a giant prologue
Unfortunately the 10 also spawned the Aun and, old Earth colonial stuff spawend the KTB
This is ture
but I dont see that as unfortunate
in the sense of spawning different groups*
I do. The Aun and the KTB are basically almost uniformly backwards and awful.
The Ungratefuls are 100% the good guys in the KTB at least.
OBJECTION.mp3
I disagree with the idea that the entirety of the KTB or Aunic suck
- we do not have enough info about the aunic ascendancy, but I do think we know they kinda suck
i mean the 10 also spawned the KTB. they're both Tenners
the KTB was spawned from the very first pre Ten colonial efforts
- the KTB is not inherrantly all bad, I point to Water and Dust as two groups that explicetly deny the whole nobles ruling ignobles thing
plus, a lot of what made the KTB into its modern self was Union, (specifically SecComm but still)
They're basically a theocratic dictatorship, the Imperium of Man lite except replace the God emperor with Metat Aun
It literally was not. It was a tenner called the Apollo, the first to launch, that managed to land prior to the Fall and establish back contact
ugh the fg to Aun not being done is messing with me
like. page 1 of FG KTB
(i neeeed the Ofanim art Tom)
Metat'Aun stole another Apollo from another universe and gave it to the Aun? or am I actually going insane
yep, that happened
well damn
wha
I also say its a fair mistake to make
forgetting the KTB was a tenner when the ten are mainly seen as
HUmanity all fleeing earth before it sucks forever
I admit
I also forgot they were a part of the Ten lol
but also, earth didnt suck forever
Yeah, I mean, the Tenners imo serve to be civilizations that lack Union's history and hangups
it got better 👍
Yeah if you think about thats sort of the Muskrat's wet dreams-- or one of them at least
okay I fear weve lost the plot what were we originally talking about
ye
anyways, I still think the KTB bascially enforcing space feudalism with space serfs makes them skeevy to me
then again the corpos are defnitely worse
so im not gon say much more on that
I think we were talkin about Union and how third party stuff treats them
I admit, I have not read a lot of 3rd party adventures! Shit I haven't read a lot of 1st party adventures! (to not be spoiled when I play them)(
But, one I read exstensively
Oh i thought we switched the topic haha
oh idk
pls contiune!
but I also wanna yap about an inspiration or two for how I wrote BoK
Operation Solstice Rain
I read it a million times
I learned all I could from it
and I loved what I saw
(we can tell haha-- crashing dropships count is 2 by my last blush)
but yeah one of the goat starter modules
The story of a Union strike team being grounded in a hostile urban battle was amazing
and I felt I wanted to try and capture the Righteous kick ass feeling I felt thinking about a DOJ strike team throwing down with the furies
My fave is Winter Scar
with the epic set piece stuff of the ||Typhon rising||, and generally learning the secrets of a world
I am also
a massive star wars fan
and I cannot lie
it influenced me alot
I love a good story of good fighting evil, and to me, the Union DOJ/HR tackling a fascist government is Lancer's ultimate version of that
Yes, there are attrocities and things Union cannot stop out there, but here? On Etrusca? Union is going to fight tooth and nail to stop them before they can hurt any more people
I tried to write Union as the hero, undeniably so when compaired to the threats they face across BoK, even if the PCs take the route of ERA transfers, theyll still take the role of the hero
I feel In Golden Flame (one of my fave 3pp works), while undoubtedly one of the highest production value 3pp Lancer works since Legionnaire, really leans into the concept of "Union is a bunch of ineffectual buffoons straight from that infamous 2019 socdem convention"
When your enemies are as awful as Count Viscor II, Commander Hannibal and his Kingmaker Squad, and the rest of the ERA, your gonna have to shape up to the role
that, and BoK is inpsired by MacBeth, a stageplay!
I have the sword!
So there very much are archtypiucal roles of hero and villain the character stake
Oh i dislike this but ill think on that later
like, okay minor spoilers
but all of Mission 6
Sic Sempyr Tyrannus, is centered around a sort of side objective the PCs take on
Hunting down, and bringing in a wanted war criminal working for the Etruscan Royal Army
Honestly when a combat is literally named this, you know its time for Big Damn Heroes
In short, BoK is very much a good vs evil story, and Union is undeniably the good guys
If prompted I will keep yapping lol
I made a mistake thats the combat name of mission 6's final fight against Commander Hannibal
and your goal there, while to fight him, isnt to kill him. Your job is the bring him in and arrest him. He's a criminal, and needs to stand trial, once the war on Etrusca get's started the PCs will, yes have the go ahead to go lethal if need be, but Union Command and Zhao will always want these guys brought in alive, so they can face justice
But uh yeah didn’t mean to take over the discussion of yall had other topics!
hell i was just shooting the breeze to make up for the delay lol
ah alrighty, im happy with any discussion here I suppose
just happy to have been a part of it for once
im also thinking about dropping mission 3 from the story, I will admit, or making it optional, and it feels almost like a sidequest for the PCs
or marking it as optional
With all this talk of you liking OSR and stuff, I might just try and run OWS for some of y'all if I had the time and also if timezones weren't a fuck; I'm not convinced they line up
Anyways yeah I defo agree that the only thing that could ever top OSR is OWS in my totally not biased opinion
<- guy who participated in the playtest and has led to between 1 and 2 changes to the final product
Ooh, what changes?
||MBT used to trigger the tank shock save effect on all moves instead of only boosts. I made the siege canon player that turn 1 left all the NPCs (save for the MBT itself) at half hp regret that decision by bullying it to total destruction with the power of free actionless damage + barrage power.||
||Also the fusion torch exotic is inaccurate now, but that one had already been reported, my group was just the one to test it to confirm the change.||
||Actually we opened up some of the maps a bit, the outpost in mission 1 combat 1 where the ennemies spawn was actually (if going by the strictest RAW) fully unescapable for the Goliath, now it isn't.||
Rebake goliaths get sicknasty with it if you have that
Anyone got the npc rebake?
And could maybe share it?
I've still got the pre-release doc+lcp, but that's about it
I know Kai's okay with ppl pirating it but I haven't yet so
(and plan on paying for it anyways)
I'll be honest, the thing I like most about the rebakes is that they make investing in evasion actually worth it (and e-defense too)
Like, I played a 15 hp 4 heat cap Dusk Wing and was 100% fine with 16 eva and 12 e-def (not a lot of tech attackers or smart, sure, but still)
Second favorite thing is removing some comboes that make me actually straight-up leave the game (I get this close), which is also good as a GM because I don't have to resist the temptation of the objectively best move, because it makes me sick even when I'm the one doing it.
Also feeling like I don't have to hold back is nice, I get to play out of my mind and still leave my PCs a chance.
The -hurk-
..the ...
The existence of the fucking
The fucking rainmaker combo. Makes me want to do unspeakable things. We win everytime anyways. But still. I want need it gone from my sight and mind.
I mean, you should see pretty soon actually, I heard we're getting close to seeing them pop up in LT now
Get some first-hand experience and all that
i see
What does the rebake even do?
It’s just remaking NPCs I think
Yup, main goal is honing in on each NPC's specific role/thing, removing tier-scaling multiattackers, and buffing/nerfing where need be (bastion is a good class now, and Operator is actually fair beyond tier 1)
The same way some people re-balance player options to be more fitting to their licences/frames or to be more worth the investment
If anyone gets a copy put it in a filebin pls
I do not sadly, im sure the thread does?
Hello
Also, reading everything back, we do love Big Damn Heroes moments.
Hai we tryna find a copy of the npc rebake for celt and friends
Failing that can we like crowdfund it in the thread?
Soz Im broke otherwise I would just get it
thanks 👍
Blood of kings isnt balanced around that so it wont be getting used
but nice to have
Thx
Did you find it?
I forgor 😔
Can you believe I ever doubted having ADHD ?
Anyways
Wallflower and conscript are probably not up to date, but those are still in active development and as such free in the thread
I just have a massive backlog
As for lcps, that's what I have. No clue if it's the last free version, work with the pdf first and maybe you'll find things wrong with the lcps
Fair, and besides, using paid content for your paid(?) content means you're either stealing or forcing people to buy another product to play yours, neither being particularly good
So more than understandable
cough Pathfinder cough
Not aware of what you're referring to but yeah sure, probably
hi i have been busy but like
i really need to comment on things regarding NHP* AND shaka's stuff
I really feel like, as a POC, this is a gross mischaracterization of Mfecane
You have to understand that all of Shaka's media for Lancer is written from the lens of a BIPOC creator, and as a person of Black ancestry.
African Americans especially have a long, well recorded history wrt treatment in America, and this does reflect in a lot of the things they write.
To a person of color, even myself, I can see how NHPs could be considered slavery, and the idea of a state where a culture and the NHP leading it tell Union to fuck off is entirely acceptable and plausible.
Everyone remembers the Sparri, but not everyone considers the idea that not everyone would want to join Union
NHPs are considered barely people, and while shackling can keep them to a human perspective, NHPs still have barely any rights and are still bound to humanity and forced to do as we ask of them
This is why CHAGA in SSMR seeks freedom, why people are helping him to escape the horrid trappings SSC forces upon him
I feel like ignoring that does a huge disservice
imo, Union is not perfect, especially ThirdComm
FirstComm was optimistic, SecComm was fascist, ThirdComm is a mix of both. Heroic but fallible, mired under a host of political swamp shittery that tries its best but can fantastically fail
DOJ/HR and the Albatross are probably the most reliable things when it comes to Union and Union adjacent forces
Certain groups and Nations rejecting and being outright dismissive of Union is only a natural endpoint to that thoughtline
"How can you protect us when you can't even protect yourselves"
Union can barely uphold the Three Pillars across its massive space as is, so for some, it is better to never have them involved at all
A lot of my views on Lancer come from the same trappings and perspectives a person like SHAKA would have: my real life experience as a POC where the worst could happen because of how people like me were treated.
anyways sorry for rambling
I was too busy and had a lot to say and unfortunately have been bogged in work
As a person of African ancestry, it honestly comes across as less a measured take on anything so much as a Coates/Kendi level screed on why racism against american descendants of slavery must always exist in fiction because it exists irl.
Also, yay, great to see SHAKA does in fact write NHPs as 1:1 parallels of irl african slaves.
Bruh
This is one of those conversations I have to step in on. I have point out where your characterization is inaccurate and also that I find it peculiar for someone to have this kinda of take, I’m honestly surprised.
Mfecnae was never an ethnostate and I would challenge you to find an explicit mention of truly that- an example that examples the faculties of a state entity that seeks to preserve a racial identity by law and practice - and subjugates other groups, isolates them for what they can’t control. Honestly to say, ur take is straight up reckless- so much so that it makes me question ur ability to reason and make any substantive point - that I can look at and say “yeah, they thought that through”.
My guy if u don’t like it that’s fine- though that doesn’t give u a right to say ignorant shit.
I admit I do use the avenger from wallflower a few times, but he is easily replacible
Also what the fuck did I miss
I was not expecting this.
Just kinda. rambled for a moment because I feel like some stuff should be clarified and then was gonna yap about BoK thing i had in my head
Can we please not have an argument or something in my game thread?
Can do, apologies
I'm already moving on
It’s fine, I suppose I’ll toss my dreams of going first party away now tho, my reputation has been ruined /j
for future reference lets just, keep all discussion here related to the module. Thank you!
anyways, next playtest is on saturday the... 18th?
yaaay
We could try and find a new #4 if you'd like.
im willing to do that if everyone else is
i may have a couple people who may want in if need be
I'm down for this
feel free to send em my way
I can also pull on some people I know perhaps?
we'll see
Ill try to find someone by saturday
I can hit some people up if needed.
Send them my way, ill ask around my circles
ive got someone whod be down, you want me to just send them your way or send them to here?
both, let them see what weve got and send em my way please
bet
If y'all want to, if you send a hammertime thingy of your usual time for sessions, I can tell you if it lines up
sure we play on saturdays 6:00 EST (sometimes 6:30/7:00) and play for 3/4 hours
im gonna go through all the folks whove stopped by to ask, and ill let folks know who ive accepted
I also don’t know what hammertime is
Oh and we use tabletop simulator on steam do you have it?
No, but I plan on buying it in the very near future (like 3 days or so)
https://www.hammertime.cyou
It makes copy/paste-able blocks that show a given time and/or date in a variety of styles that automatically adapt to the timezone of the reader
Because timezones are a fuck and I don't get them (I really tried), it makes knowing when something is way easier
Yeah see that's Sunday 00:00 for me so a bit too rough to be there on the regular unfortunately.
If it was only for like one or two sessions I could do it but since it's meant to be a long-term thing I'd rather just let someone more appropriate have the spot
At least you know what hammertime is now ! It's so impossibly great for stuff like this; know you'll have it if you need it
In the meantime, best of luck on the recruitment process !
Maybe after the rebalancing and re runs of a few sitreps I’ll summon you!
wahoo!!!!
khdfkjgdfgdf oop
yippee!
Waves!!
hello person i definatly dont know!!!!
Hello complete stranger!!!!
Well, squid, willo, Petra and pagan, we are all in on Saturday correct?
Ah
@raven fossil @crude raptor don’t mean to bother you, but can you confirm for Saturday or Sunday?
I am free this whole weekend.
Yeag!
Alright, Saturday or Sunday will be good then, just gotta know what Petra’s thinking
Sorry still waking up night be slow fi respond
I rise from the evil slime bubble where i sleep and slump over my evil computer made of bones and wicked magics
And i try to settle on sn eeeeeevil build concept while i read lore
The speedy and ever present Nelson?
Either Striker or Support, yeah.
i can saturday
i think ive settled on a character idea, and im also already loving the setting
Wonderful! Feel free to message me about it or put it here!
i kinda want her personality and vibes to be a surprise so ill probably dm you about it
👍
Oh, fair warning, my character is incredibly Scottish.
oh wonderful
wasnt the gms frame named "By the pricking of my thumb"?
dfkghdfgdfgdfg
Yep
Yeah, the Chomolungma was "By the Pricking of My Thumbs"
And then the Hydra is "Something Wicked This Way Comes"
mine is 300 Cubits Long 50 Cubits Wide
Woman's out here piloting Noah's Ark
If I ever switch off of Hydra
The next frame will either be "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow"
Or "Birnam Wood to Dunsinane"
Man, Macbeth is just full of great mech names
This is kinda why I wanted to try and get in if I could too, because I have 0 knowledge of Macbeth (beyond that one Make Some Noise skit) and could use that to test if everything was still held up despite that
macbeth actually isnt real its a government psyop
macbeth never happened, some guy just wrote it like a billion years ago, its one big deception
Hey! Guards! Sieze her! She knows too much!
So tomorrow is going to suck for me.
My work scheduled me to come in at 3 AM tomorrow and work a 12 hour shift
are you still going to be able to make it? and if not should we switch to sunday>
as Im pretty sure everyone here can do sunday, correct?
Hey folks! I realize that things have been a bit slow recently, so who wants a sneak peak of some future missions!
I offer a funny piece I added to an optional combat players might run into
think ive finally settled on a nelson/ghengis
love that honestly
hell yea
wait shit
nvm!
discovering the nelson has no heavy mount puts a dampener on my plans RAH
inconvient!
Super heavy mounting does exist if you have some silly plan
But I wanna know what the plan is?
ill dm :D
Thank you, these guys are utter morons lol
Who’s ready for toniiiiiioght!
Me, I suppose.
I am operating off of like, 2 naps and a shitload of Dr. Pepper.
WOO
Also I believe this might be the first TTRPG group I have participated in with more women than men, so that's really neat!
RAGHH lamcer today :D
Lancer tonight!!!!
WOOH
I am thrilled i have been working on a character voice
4 hours…
Lamther
lamb thop
Lammer
1/2 hour...
Soon…
on it boss 🫡
Ill be there in about 15 minutes
I am too!! Yall will create a grand slauighter
whats the snack
@ancient badge
this-esque
cinematic
quick heroforge of the worst woman you know
That poor fucking seeder
good
So my thoughts: The new lady is awesome.
oh im loving it so far
as it deserved
Lesson learned: Demolishers fuckin hurt.
lesson learned, i thuroughly enjoy nelson
i get to be such a little shit
Angel swoops you like an angry bird
bonjour
oh hello
Hello
chat say hi to one of the players in the game that inspired Blood of Kings
indeed
Hiii
i played the goblin pilot with four arms
Hell yes
i learned ton hate hackers those days
hehe, puppet systems go brr
i'm currently playing a calendula and i love it. hackers are great.
Horus has all youll ever need for hacking ever
horus has all you'll ever need. the edlritch mechs are my favorite.
Im gonna start putting liscences into gorgon soon
i need to make a gorgon sometime
:)
:) i like the sound of this
she going to start quoting the 10 commandments when she kills people
GOOD
the calendulich is funny
Hola
We love Spooky Dave.
spooky dave is amazing.
Hi, I'm the squad's Hydra pilot.
i originally did not vibe with spooky dave, but that's why i ultimately pucked them
I have a bowling ball. It is called the Tempest Drone.
hell yeah
Are you playing it in Wallflower?
One of the Wallflower exotics is absolutely cracked on Calendula.
nah, another thing that celt is running. she's a great dm.
Oh she is a delight to play with.
But yeah, Brood-Sibling's Molt is fuckin' nuts on Calendula.
actually, my goal is to one day run wallflower. as a dm.
Also Hi, yeah, as MJ said, I was one of the early players.
Hello.
Ah yes, the tank.
the tank...
Lead for breakfast, brass for dinner
Our current squad is Hydra, Death's Head, Nelson, and Saladin.
We had a Goblin, Death's head, Tortuga, Iskander, Amber Phantom, and a Saladin
don't forget the balor
And the Gaylor, yes
That's a lot of people, Jesus.
it was
That's a lot of people at once, yeah
Still had a good time with it tho
I was gonna say, I'd probably max out at 5.
Anything above 5 just gets too hectic imo
I've been at 6+ player tables once or twice, but only ever in person and never ever Lancer of all games. If I ever say something like trying >5 players in Lancer that's a doppleganger.
i had a good time
Glad it worked out for y'all then though, that's certainly a unique Lancer experience !
Honestly the only big problem was that we kinda steamrolled the enemies a decent amount of the time, and we had one player who's turns took way too long (amber phantom, looking at you)
Of course it was the Ampham
Why am I not shocked it was the Amber Phantom?
The person that does turn fuckery takes the longest turns.
Actually, the turn fuckery had almost nothing to do with it
It was just that he had so many weapons he'd use every turn
And he'd go through them like an accountant
Saturday...
Yep.
soooooon
sooon...
soon.....
i am probally gonne be late cus i have rehersal till like, 7 that day, but i should still be able to make it
alright, are people okay with starting at 7?
Yup
Sure
yessu
Prepare the squarification chambers
We shall
It’s actually helpful that we’re playing at 7 tonight cuz I’m out canvassing today
nice nice
wait hold on @spice gulch post the image
gif
whatevre
YOU KNOW THE ONE
YEEEAAAAHHHHH
WOOOOH
THATS IT BABY THATS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR
THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT
THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT LETS GOOOO
WOOOOOOHHHHH
Hell yeah
true!
See yall in an hour!
Tirteen minute
Soon
:D
#comicdub #anime #worthit
Tomboy GF Comic Dub
Artist - spicymancer
All Credits:
Comic By : spicymancer
Voiced By [Man]: - eSpressoVA
Video & Thumbnail Edited By : Skippy
Warning: Lesbians
Guys, please, can we keep the discussion here to just blood of kings?
Yep
smiles in Railgun
ipsn
Oh I'll get to be a menace.
its time
@wary apex using the restroom real quick, apolocheese if i miss any introductory things
im coming im just doing chem homework
we'll wait dw
may i pop in for a quick hello?
sure just dont interrupt too much, all spectators are welcome
Goobles the mirage
The standoff
alright, i return to the shadow realm. glad to have joined in time to see the death of goobles!
notus misses one session, comes back, immedatly gets into a fucking stand off with a goliath
the playtest is going well
LL3 share code: KR7AOL
ODP4QN
i now have! yet another shield!
[please don't stand in front of me thankies]
thats my whole job tho!
Angel: BES9XR
are we still planning on playing saturday?
if so ill have to sit out, busy that night
well, is everyone available saturday?
i am free
Squid? Pagan?
