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Hmm what does have the best dpm (I'm literally just multiplying Firepower by RoF)
Ok so it's the wstr so far
But not really
Seems to be wstr then Zeus then Brrt then Impact
warframe moment where you genuinely need to consider mag size and reload speed for DPM
Makes me thing this is maybe not the best stat to look at
I think it's almost impossible to actually fire the BRRT at 1000 rpm
yeah I think that assumes the burst RPM not sustained salvo average
So in practical terms it's gotta be the Zeus
Impact har is a weird precision automatic rifle
It's benefit is mainly being able to shoot up to 60m base over the 46m base of the m77
But like the same thing with the bully
Range is largely a position thing that you can just, W key forward
Lowkey I think it's in a weird spot from being a god gun in the MCTT and then getting nerfed
If thats the case then yeah
Misriah only started getting more use recently without the slick mag due to wstr getting hard nerfed
It was largely the same back then but it dropped a lot more and the ergonomic stats were... pretty much the same as the M77s by my memory?
I remember it being one of the dedicated endgame guns
That was admittedly the True Thermal Meta though
Since range limits hadn't been invented
So every fight was like "dedicated thermal spotter making callouts and then 2 people who pull triggers"
Meanwhile me right now, "I gotta get my vault full of purple bullys and keys somehow because getting DNA access cards are a pain"
i think the impact HAR just needs a slight ADS speed buff
it doesnt need it it just doesnt feel good to ADS without a bunch of mods
art by @/moritya369_dayo on twitter
Somewhere in the heavens… Signal Jammer Man is out there… waiting…
@cinder hare i have been working on creating the reserve
despite being just a little baby season level 23 goblin i have the capacity for items that fucking kill anyone
That’s a good reserve
i have so many mips too
honestly part of what i do to stock up on ammo and salvage is i run rook on outpost and then dont go to pinwheel
That's solid asf
because everyone is in pinwheel
i can just loot everything they left on the ground and then leave
it usually gets me like twenty to thirty salvage pieces and a few thousand dollars
Ye
in case youre wondering about my ammo reserve
theres a few mips i have backed up for using
I have like 0 ammo lol
i like having ammo in backup so i can pull whatever i want out the inventory
Oh yeah funny but stupid fact
The repeater has a DPS so low, even with only headshots im pretty sure the overrun with only bodyshots is better
i mostly have it for money
Understandable
I want them to give the repeater like, 3x headshot mult or something crazy
sometimes you have two backup wstrs and brrts and longshots and youre still impoverished
It’s already very high at 2.1
It’s really weird because it has a low fire rate but also cracks blue shields in 1 shot
Yeah i just think itd be funny if they buffed it like that
Realistically it just needs faster RoF and reload speed probably
Good on teamfights since your buddies can finish people off and it gives sniper level scares without scope glint
i gotta get so many unstable diodes and gunmetal
Yeah it's just weird
theyre putting me in the perimeter relay baby jail and darsh jail
Its got good stats in general but it's also just kinda ass at the same time lol
I think the repeater is a pretty good teamfight gun but it’s bad for dueling
It’s like a budget Ares
Then again part of it is snipers being really strong in this game
speakijng of snipers
where is a good place to get the defeat a runner from 20m above achievement
Outpost has a lot of vert
destroyed wing on outpost looking down at red key
The various rooftops on darsh work iirc
its the last one i need for vandal mastery
There's also a really high place you can get to on.. north relay? on perimeter, where the locked room is
I think it’s south relay but yeah
And station
South is the one with the keyroom up high yeah
North has a pretty tall rooftop too though
no I did mean north relay
There's a (prestige?) locked room on this big antenna
with a jumping puzzle to get up to it
Rooking: When the rooks get a little too strong together
I do find it funny that someone on another discord went "Maybe we'll see p'fhor enemies replace uesc enemies later on!" as if the current endgame boss of the game isn't the tiniest baby man p'fhor possible
wow i forgot how much i suck when it's a 1v3
weakest sphit'ca versus strongest destroyer
Okay, sure
It would be funny if the Pfhor stayed normal enemies but the Spht were beastmode
we could absolutely take most phfor
i wouldnt say an assault trooper is less dangerous than like
a warrior
like sure juggernauts? cyborgs? nah
not helped by the rook kit being like
heres six dollars and bus fare
go, my child
kill them all
More like 4 dollars after the wster nerf :v
it was 10 dollars back thne
now its six dollars
tbh if youre jus taiming for money on rook dont take fights
half a penny (as in an american one sliced in half) and a pack of gum that was left in the cup holder of a car baking in the sun for a year
most fights are gonna drop more stuff than you really can carry and also will drag out in comparison to just picking stuff up and leaving while everyone is elsewhere
My main thing rn for Rook runs are purple weapon mods for bully
wow i expected like
better loot or at least some more discreetness from outpost supply drops but uh
nope! just the same as anywhere else except the same colour as like, loot boxes in locked rooms
no lonmger completely rinsed and got a br33 bully and brrt from the drop
i guess
Outpost having armories + pinwheel + convoy are best loot sources
Arguably if you lobby wipe with a dcon mission
You can inf farm bot drops
i mean im just rooking it
the evil and intimidating shroud rook:
Cause if you put the wrong thing in the dcon it spawns in uesc bots
lol what
I think it just spawns them regardless I've put the right stuff in for a quest and it sends them anywho
Yeah but to activate dcon you need the quest
Otherwise you cant interact with it IIRC
<@&1474420814979010821> any martoners?
I can here in a bit
hopefully done with work in an hour, then I can 
how long is a bit? asking since im doing writing work rn
like 20- minutes or 15 or 10
10-15
ok k
got the classic darsh death 😔 happens to the best of us
lost some of my good cores though which im more annoyed about
they need to take all the nerfs from the WSTR and knife and give them all to grenades ten fold
Every player encounter being "who is able to throw the most grenades well" is not fun
I mean there's some skill to grenade throws, the issue with it rn isn't the grenade throwing it's more the spam aspect because you can basically do constant AOE damage of differing types until you get a pick and then unga
Make all grenades 3 slots instead of two, you cowards
Add ogryn bomb Bungie
add the hellbomb
popped a recon who was looting a bag by crawling through a vent into their room lmao
honestly felt bad for them they didn't even hear me crawl in and the whole thing took only a couple shots
if they added the box of grenades from darktide i would not even be mad
It does feel like a comedy bit almost when most engagements in enclosed spaces start with an entire fireworks stand being thrown at one another through some doorways.
I mean, even in real life a lot of clearing a room is opening a door or window and chucking a grenade in before proceeding.
Sure, but it feels like a more Looney Tunes version when it is 15 continuous seconds of explosions, chemicals, fire, and seeker shards all flying in.
Then the dust settles and you didn't actually kill anyone.
No one died, but everyone is deaf.
Pullout animation!
It's a very Halo-esque grenade throw, with the grenades being a lot more powerful than the ones in Halo.
<@&1474420814979010821> any runnahs
I’m down
gimme 10
vault is looking scrumptious
Oh man I can't show vault it's so grody
I have a dragon hoarding problem
(This is less impressive than it looks Traxus gave half of this to me)
<@&1474420814979010821> marathon
oh actually hold on I need to rotate laundry
but marathon
I might be able to hop on in a min
not really, there's some quest stuff but it's just killing people and looting stuff
I can do a run or two
is there a way to upgrade weapon color
slap better mods on them
It's just based on mods yeah
oh ok so if I pick up a M77 it gets better with good mods
yeah, makes grey guns a decent pickup if you've got a lot of mods in vault
I have not learned Outland bullet drop yet
It seems to when I look at the trail
Very flat and then it falls after 70 or so meters I think?
I don't think it does
I can't really tell
when traxus has a barter that's 1 reflex coil for one purple precision barrel and you actually realize its just a little bit tempting
...arachne has a purple hurting hands with triage cloak,
oh dear i see that one too...
im not nearly as flush with the salvage for it but it seems to be a lot easier to get my hands on if i look for it
think I realised the in universe reason why rook isn’t allowed on the marathon
Compilers and robots famously do not mix
Unless your name is Durandal
I mean he's a hacked UESC bot, which are already on the marathon
true but pair that with an uploaded consciousness controlling them
We're only allowed on the marathon because durandal highjacks our transfer to tau ceti is how I interpreted it
And he has no interest in allowing rooks to hack in
That seems like a reasonable assumption to me. We’re there by Durandal’s whim and he doesn’t want his ship full of raccoons.
Patch notes <@&1474420814979010821>
Free cryo kit a week!
WSTR buffs!
Bugfixes!
I like it the wstr sucks ass vs uesc
maybe this will let it one tap recruits again
@twin rain
Fixed an issue that could cause Runners to get stuck behind barriers in the Drone Wing while completing the Mida Truth/Lies 2/6 contract.
😩
we got stuck in there with two complete priority contracts that just needed exfil, loot from a teamfight, 5+ minutes on the clock, and free run of pinwheel
Nice! (That the bug is fixed)
Me and a couple others put a whole crew inside baby jail using this bug lowkey. Because they thought that they could use our conveyance.
Lmao
Happy for the wstr buff (fucked up to say) they hit that gun way too hard
Yeah it went from being a menace to being a confetti gun
Hopefully this brings a bit of balance now
yeah I've been on the other end of it once with someone from a trio we were fighting getting stuck in there
I feel hitting it to hard and un-nerfing it is the better way than doing a little at a time, as people might feel that Bungo ain't dealing with the issues appropriately
I have just bought marathon.,.....
They’ve been generally really on the ball.
are servers down rn?
Yep! Weekly maintenance/update
that'd do it
Should be back up in the next 10-15 tho
I just got a new ethernet cable to play actually lol
couldnt even get through the tutorial before my wifi broked
They kept trying to back up conveyance after we disabled that and we deadass wiped two teams and a rook that way it was really really funny
Did I feel bad about it? A little. But they started swearing at us after the second conveyance attempt so it mostly became funny
Bungee please make Signal Jammer Guy a real NPC you can run into that jump scares you that would be really funny I think
1/1000000 chance he runs up and stabs you before running away really fast. If you shoot him enough he doesn’t die but drops a special weapon
Yeah they are much more dangerous than some similar games’ pve
That's funny. That's so funny. That's so funny that you fixed this after it happened to us.

Drops mini-jammer chips and Signal Jammers.
sure
gimme a sec brb
I approached them like they were hunt zombies
I should have approached them like tarkov scavs
wait what the hell
everything has a trace status
how did i only just notice this
i thought it was only a few things that did
Yeah.
atlas#0790
170 damage, which is... blue shield 2 tap i think?
Given he has a favorite room and everything, he feels like a picky little cat whose like, "meow meow meow ewwwww rook [anti-rook words] meow meow meow" while the other runners are like, "did you hear that cat use the z word?"
It just makes it less likely for partial misses to make it fail to kill grey and green shields
Also goes out further I think?
Also means 2 good shots+any one bullet kills blues
I guess the meta is now nade -> WSTR
doesnt he embody a cat
the pink kity that appears sometimes
Durandal has always been cat-coded.
Its just a theory but I believe in it
The cat is another being I think, but Durandal seems to favor it?
Possibly geah
Could see him using the cat as a way to keep eyes on the surface?
DISCORD: https://discord.gg/N5PupB6uXP
After 1,000 solo runs in Marathon, I’ve finally cracked what actually works when you drop in alone: pathing, priorities, loadouts, and mindset. In this video I break down the biggest lessons I’ve learned from thousands of fights, failed extracts, and clutch extractions so you can skip the painful trial...
Lmfao this bug rules
The you survived bonus
loooool
Ive been using it to track the number of teams lol
The chudling.
go my scarab
Sparsh lives
Same it’s great for the pacing
My last regular darsh run was like back to back to back fights
It's just as stressful but less random
Regular darsh has six locations (intersection isn't real) and six teams
It was fun - we racked up like 9 runner kills - but we wound up getting a tense 2k and then fucking off to exfil because we spent so much time fighting
It's really unsurprising that you inevitably meet
Sparsh gives you the opportunity to encounter or to get a lucky rotate
Outpost has a sort of similar issue
Cause early on there's only like three places and until pinwheel opens there's gonna be at least two teams fighting for control of one place
I actually really like marathon's visual design because I can actually see enemies
hunt and tarkov I do not have the monitor or possibly the eyes to see background-colored people against the background but marathon its not bad
Word, despite how intensely colorful it is it’s pretty visually clear
smurfs
It’s later in the season I can see people going ranked with very strong gear boxes
im so not sorry for being the cruelest rook alive
like im sorry but ive been betrayed so many times
also you had a whole stack of meds
and the purple bag... im sorry but i need bags
Also you threatened me when I met you and forced me to kill someone for you to live
As much as there's cheaters, there's not really smurfs because no reason to smurf.
Ranked literally only has 2 queues and anybody who isn't cheating would never go into high stakes queue because it's pointless
Honestly SBMM or something would help
Yeah prob
Then people who die for w/e reason doing co-evolution 4/5 will get easier and easier lobbies until they can eventually do it
Same thing for cryo and every other map people struggle on
There’s some really basic dividers that folks have theorized exist, I think mostly tied to seasonal level
I would say so
That’s all Bungie has confirmed yeah
Yeah this is pretty much how you should play, it's tarkov 101 and it's similar in marathon. Marathon is just less req for payoff.
It's why I always say to just W key places because you generally get more success w keying objs than trying to sneak when everything makes noise
Key templates are the one thing that really encourages stealth as a full playstyle
And even that is basically “sit in the most obscure corner possible until you can exfil”
It's also why assassins annoy me cause the smoke and cloak are such gimmicky things with rps answers instead of you being able to 50/50 them with knife like you used to, but it's w/e, marathon is a solo 2nd game tbf
Yeah, doesn't help keys are weirdly loud in marathon
But it makes sense when you think of the trios design
I still gotta try the signal jammer trick even though I don’t think it works
Supposedly you don’t trigger the key room farm alarm if you have a jammer active when activating it
I’ll try anything for science
ngl im curious how marathon would feel if they had a BR mode
id play apex if apex was marathon instead, if you understand me
Eh
Sponsered is the closest you’ll get
i tried apex and it just doesnt "feel right"
I would enjoy it more but I probably wouldn't play it
something changed after i quit and it just doesnt feel right
I mean
also bungie guns feel infinitely better
I’m an old and cannot hang with the sweats anymore
Apex accepted techs with high execution requirement (to the point of which the execution of said tech is 100% easier with hall effect keyboards)
mantlesliding being built in tech is 100% a good change
They then proceeded to, for w/e reason, nerf every low execution requirement tech, and introduce hitstop
i think its just b-hopping doesnt feel "right"
So no basic bhopping
oh god hitstop? no fucking wonder movement felt so jank
with deadlock at least i can just buy juggernaut and ignore 50% of your slows, or get unstoppable, etc
I feel like it was maybe done to better support movement ability chars
apex sounds like it needs a total floor-up rework lmao
then again, same with overwatch in some sense, and so many other live service games
Ehh
then again, a bit of it is Carmen being Picky As Fuck about her games
To me the issue with OW1 was doing OW2 and then doing w/e it is now
But I'm looking at it casually
I do want a Satisfactory-movement, bungie guns, deadlock tech kinda game
Titanfall 2 with bungie guns
yeah, not exactly titanfall, but really good movement either way
Granted titanfall 2 has titans so pilotsvpilots
I don’t think Bungie guns would actually feel that good in Titanfall
i think titanfall is just too fast somehow
I am a Titanfall 1 grog though
Then you'd have to be more specific what you mean by deadlock tech
like i guess somewhere between satisfactory and marathon right now?
cornerboosting, mantlesliding, some walljumping
the technical side of it
That kind of exists already
You just most of the time don't have a reason to do that sorta stuff because you can hit max speed off a grapple or by grenade boosting
If that's the issue then maybe more like, og quake
mmm
Granted Idk how you could make corner boosting super workable in an fps
I guess it would be first person blind timing
Idk maybe Brink-ish movement
Regardless tho I'm decently satisfied with Marathon atm
I am curious about future experimental queues and am still excited for night marsh
i would deeply enjoy if we somehow got the insane armored core quickboosts the assault troopers and commanders have
It's what destroyer has just slower
I was just about to say, lol
I’m excited for Season 2 while also hoping that things like rep grind and material requirements are reduced enough to make it possible on a reasonable amount of playtime
I think they should scrap materialist and reduce salvage requirements
it's more the around corner stuff
that's whati want
i can get behind that
wanted to play some free kit solos in DM and get contracts done
traxus free kit day
also make events more common, give an extra like, 45 seconds to the intercept mission
we need to put the person that made the hardline PR in a lab to be studied
As we get deeper into Season 1, we've been monitoring your feedback around the current combat sandbox closely. We wanted to talk a little about a few of the topics we're seeing frequently from the community, and some updates we're planning.
Looking at grenades, gold ares railgun, and discussing the wstr changes
it would be pretty crippling if grenades didn't stack at all
Damage numbers feel like an alternative place to look
This is basically canon given half the stuff ONI says
ONI’s positive affirmations getting much spicer than expected
I’d have to try it to see how it feels
thinking on it more it'd probably be more punishing mid-run as you would be enticed to drop em in favor of something else, but it would still be possible to bring a bagful at the start to trade em for the first opponent's bag.
Yeah I’m inclined to agree
I think for a quick and dirty fix there should just be a 7 second cd between pushing G
What about an arbitrary limit on equipment that can be brought in?
I’m not in favor of it necessarily
Doesn’t help so much on Cryo especially since you just get piles of hand grenades
Stacking changes won’t impact Cryo much either though when you can refill from every folio and resupply cubby
Pullout animation
evil voice grenades are compromised material
They should add plasma grenades
I could see it being a shell ability
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some runs?
I could run!
Will get a room going
Anyone able to fill for a third with Blade and I?
take yr time
i can
Think we may be full up Carmen
i could run with you
gimme a seccc
horrific runs
absolutely horrific. just terrifying and fucked up ways to be tortured fro eternity today
mostly thanks to keys and fights over keys lmao
weirdly i think i often feel more annoyed by runs where i have good loot i want to take out then runs where i have good loot i bring in. the rat is strong in me
Same
We gotta run it back tomorrow and get the purples we were robbed of
I had a good rook with nice blue that I lost from incompetence and messing up extil
but I've got a purple longshot ready to go
Yeah we need to
I maintain that adding fuse timers is the way to fix the spam. bungie please hire me.
I had a run last night where someone nearly jumped me in command wing but I just started screaming over voip and he was like “hey we can clear the room together” so we cleared it and when he went to loot a box I hit him in the head with my Outland, poor guy is never gonna trust anyone ever again
Should have kept his guard up
Like he found the body of the last guy I killed and was like “oh the bots must’ve got him”
we let a rook go last night but I've never teamed up with one
Teaming up with rooks is very hard
It’s hard for them to tell who to shoot and the added time to do IFF can make you die
I'd also just not trust them not to get ideas tbh
the ambiguity is a problem
and anyone going 'I'm just a smol bean, a little baby boy, and it's my birthday, don't shoot me' is inherently suspicious to me
There's no real benefit for a team to trust a rook or to let them live
Carri event doesn't apply to trios for outside their own trio
9/10 times I will just put them down, it isn’t worth the risk of them deciding to be cheeky and putting a claymore down when you are turned around.
I usually give them like a moment of 'hey I know you exist and don't HAVE to kill you with my friends' but they always usually use it to shoot me so welp
Very rarely they are polite and receive a Mech OS or somesuch
I’m cool with exfilling with rooks but I don’t want to team up or anything
yeah
It feels like encountering a raccoon while taking the trash out
We're not going to be friends but we don't have to be enemies
there were a few times where final exfil just has some rooks stalking near the edge of the exfil like wild animals
if you're cold, they're cold, let them in 😔
“You can exfil with us but we’re gonna break your knees first.”
I have done that before, put them DBNO to make sure I don’t catch a wstr to the head when they are in with us.
You did that while I was on your crew once.
Had too many Rooks try to jump in and get a cheeky kill while they back out and get a bag off a team.
New map got leaked by @tidal terrace :3
Also fun fact, the Volley, HAR, and Bully share parts from each other, like the HAR and Volley share stocks, and the HAR and Bully share trigger / chambers
So the HIGH ROF on the Overrun is almost 100% because there's a LOW ROF version out there, god bungie cooked with these designs
can we get that low ROF overrun please and thank you bunglo
No.
It’s the M77 I think
i guess
I think they also have some parts commonality but I’m not sure
The M77 is lowkey very weird
I love/hate that the charging handle reciprocates through the rear irons when it’s in scope mode
it can't decide whether it wants to be in bed with the bully or the br33
(Not a real leak)
Purple shield for enzyme replicator barter day
again
also triage cloak knife fight v4 from arachne
Have they addressed that the Sponsored Marsh que is gone?
DIdn't Ziegler say that it would stay 1 more week?
On to Infinity, I guess!
Oh weird yeah it’s supposed to still be around
epicccc I graduated now I can be a bum on marathon all day
<@&1474420814979010821> Day runners around?
At work unfortunately
I can probably do a few runs.
sure
Yeag
Gimme a 5 minute time
Better Call Saul Stinger ocurring
Anyone know why misriahs have such a high value for enduring?
I exfiled 2 misriahs with enduring and without ever using them again they are at 26.3k and 12.4k to sell them
which feels wildly out of proportion to every other item with it I have seen
Probably that then
Queue is back!
@tidal terrace there's room for a third now
Im be right back ye
Making a cogee
Csofee
the latte
I wanna marathon so badddddddd
mf said im making a congee
Not even a drinkable burger what has this world come to 

calvage...
remember to report stuff if youre on the marathon server
is there a place to report a typo like this to lmao
marathon server mostly, and bungie forums
i intentionally stay out cuz i fucking love warring on the internet
tm. compound c
you ever just find 3 cryo keys in a single outpost game
pinnacle room i assume?
and warden
i was duo queueing w a friend who does not care if i take the good stuff
Do you need those to get into CA?
no, they're just like key room keys for CA
they're for the Vaults, super key rooms (they need more than just the keys)
I see.
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone up for some runs
Maybe in a bit.
I could in 10 or so
I might later
I can be in in a bit
in an hour or so
yes
i keep thinking about a theoretical support assassin whose kit is like:
invis: vs player only, UESC still sees you, also works vs thermals
smoke: includes temp sig jam for all allies
v: no longer a smoke, gives sig jam to nearby allies for a while, somehow reduces how much players can see you in adverse weather (only if weather becomes wilder and changes more regularly?)
Invis vs. players only?
Why?
Is this because of your weird beef about Assassins being able to avoid UESC?
i mean there's just this weird tension between rook and assassin
No, there isn't. I don't know where you got that idea
in terms of abilities and where they can go though
And? Half of the shells have abilities that give them additional aerial mobility
That's not a problem to be solved
yeah, but that's a tradeoff of the kit
i get rook being weaker than others in general, as a scav option
but it feels weird to me that rook's basic skill is weaker than assassin's in every regard
That's... the point?
also because part of it is because i feel like assassin being the number 1 solo pick feels annoying
Ah, so this is just complaining about Assassin
not really.
Pretty sure the mods made it very clear that isn't allowed.
I'm not saying the design is bad.
But you keep going on and on about redesigning them
I sent that once, today.
I've seen you bring it up multiple times
yeah, i just like doing design-stuffs too
This probably isn't the channel for that, then
im not even saying the current assassin is bad, i'm just talking about a theoretical other designs
Try the Marathon Discord
i dont stay in that server.
I don't blame you, lol
but seriously, you're being quite hostile for when i'm just trying to talk about an alternative concept
i dont like assassin, but im not complaining
Uh-huh.
Like, I did word it somewhat poorly
but what i was trying to say is closer to like, I feel like Assassin's kit could be more fun or interesting with more support anti-info tools, and if it's capabilities were either more distinct from rooks or opposite to that (such as rook invis to uesc, but not players, and vice versa)
even though rook is wholly it's own playstyle due to filling into trios with a WSTR, clays, and a backpack (which is its own ability in a way, thus replacing the need for a stronger ult through a strong kit on entry), i'd prefer when every ability, in general, is distinct and has it's own usecase other skills dont have
I imagine they might introduce alternative models for the shells that change up their kit in some way, later down the line
like Vandal vs Thief, Thief's is a lot easier to use and can get much more vert at once, but Vandal's is massively more accessible and regularly available
An assassin that messes with signal jamming might be interesting, but the invisibility is kind of key to his whole core design
but in the case of Vandal vs Destroyer, I think Vandal needs some changes or Destroyer needs some changes due to how Destroyer has the whole air-boost
which offers much more flexibility than Vandal's slide
yeah i wouldnt be certain on changing the invis wholly, but at the least it shouldnt remove aggro, so the UESC keeps on their "active / hunting" state for the duration
or make it so when you run UESC can still see you to an extent, similar to Rook's
I don't think they should touch his invis period
I think it's already in a good place balance-wise
yeah this is less about balance and more about how his gameplay is
Okay but in a multiplayer competitive game you have to take balance into consideration
because there's also situations where a character (shiv from deadlock, for instance) is balanced but not fun / in the best place for the game
That's just a no-brainer
Bring back MCTT assassin
4 more seconds of invis and the smoke bomb is 1 huge circle not a string of 3 grenades
like, appear behind you, delete you, disappear
Deadlock is a third-person MOBA shooter that's still in beta, and not very comparable to a fully released first-person extraction shooter
The invis is quick enough to recharge with a few tactical recovery upgrades, 15 secs off the base would be insane
yeah but it's still a good example of balance flaws
I do think his smoke abilities feel like the weakest part of his kit and could use some tweaking
It really isn't.
I mean, i'm not comparing the games, i'm talking about designs being innately flawed in one way or another
Yeah, I'm not gonna get anywhere arguing about this with you so I'm gonna ask you politely to please drop it
I'm honestly just confused by your argument, really
and why you decided to frame it as complaining about assassin in the first place
but ill stop now
Please drop it.
Thank you
Anyone else been having issues lately with icons in menus being glacially slow to update?
Nvm, it's not happening anymore for some reason. I think it might be because I wiped a bunch of old drivers and reset my Nvidia settings
skinning or red room?
both
slimed the entire map within 5 minutes of spawn and got pinnacle
to be fair we basically fourth partied a fight to put 7 bags on the floor
How the fuck
Literally everyone decided to fight under drone wing
Ngl i have a slight suspicion being level 91 means we get queued into lobbies way harder than normal
That explains it
this party has an average level around 60-70
We learned from Bungie support that 71+ is one of the level buckets
For anomaly anyway not sure if it's anything else
Yeah true, I just get queued into level like, 150+ lobbies regularly
I've met level 200s multiple times
thas a lot of guns
more than i need
my stash has about... 6 guns
maybe 7
it's like, gold magnum, gold wstr, gold bully, and then 3 more guns that i save for actual usage
most of my storage is salvage, meds, and mods
i wish we had separate salavage space, cuz it takes up like, 150 slots
same yeah
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone down for some sponsored Darsh runs?
I would, but it's quite late here.
I could make more space if I got rid of purple shields but trying to have a fair bit in my inv
Same, shields being the one thing I can’t buy at purple means I’ve got more of that saved than anything else.
Yeah the metaprog be rougher than tarkov
it would be really nice to either have a separate salvage section or allow you to "preinvest" into stuff
Separate salvage section would be nice ye
I get what the devs are trying to go for though
I kinda wish I could like
Extract d2 knowledge from people so I better understood how bungie does stuff
Omg
Bungie apparently broke rank for pinnacle rank
That's so funny
They changed holo tag buy options so pinnacle can't buy anything below plat but nobody realistically will buy anything above gold
That means anybody grinding codex entries get stuck at low pinnacle unless they get lucky on queues
Apparently you can get around it by stockpiling holotags of lower ranks though
vault space is like my #1 deterrent from playing long sessions...
Just gotta die more
suffering from success moment
but no lowkey i wish i didnt come out of super successful runs and just go "oh right i dont have room for any of this" because of a bunch of minor pain points that just really add up
if i sell it all for credits... i cant use those credits to get a lot of it back...
im sure i'll have the opposite problem tomorrow when cryo archive opens back up
rip me, I'm def gonna need to take a break from this game soon
I’m totally out of leg and head implants, nearly out of body implants, I have two cores left and I lost most of my blue and green shields yesterday. Guess it’s a Rook day today.
I was having some bad rook runs
So I did free kit runs solo on outpost
I killed 3 runners and got into pinwheel solo
I even had 3 red keys
I don't feel much anymore when I extract successfully 
I am definitely ready for s2
Yesterday was abysmal. The worst day I've had so far, I think. Hopefully today will be better.
Perhaps
The loot giveth
And loot taketh
The only static unchanging thing is the flow of loot
The loot mostly tooketh yesterday.
I hope it giveth to me this weekend
That was me on like Sunday
I want to beat compiler so I can say I've completed the game
Yesterday was brutal
I doubt I'll ever hit compiler. I'm considering the game complete once I do truth/lies 6
well, I've already done it technically. but not for myself
I’d like to do compiler but idk if it’ll happen this season haha
getting the coolest priority contract done and then I'll see what I do for the rest of the season
My season goal is level 100 to get all the cheevos and feeling comfy on Cryo
Id like to do compiler too
Would need better gear but yknow it's chill
Honestly compiler itself isn't the struggle part
Its doing vaults 1-6
After that you just need DNA access card and get good enough rng on a lobby
You can hit clearance level 5 without running into players with enough luck
That’s good to hear that’s what I was feeling
Vault runs seem awfully time consuming to learn
Compiler only actually requires clearance 3, clearance 5 is the extra loot room but they nerfed it IMO
Biggest pain is getting the DNA access cards cause those are rng and seem to come out of vaults
I’m at the “ok so I know the objectives now but my PvP on Cryo feels 2 standard deviations worse than on any other map because I don’t know the map well enough” and that makes it feel agonizing to feed keys to people lol
Pvp on cryo is like
Stalemate->pick->wipe
And honestly if you get caught in a stalemate better to just gtfo
Cause they're always a 50-50
Alternatively throw more grenades than the other team
Learning each vault and having the keys is def the biggest pain points
Esp cause 06 key is contraband
Ideally if you do it. The key holder keeps both tags and the key and if a teammate goes down you just run and exfil rather than risk it
Yeahhh same
Wstr might be a consistent way to hit the ante requirement though
But map knowledge is so important
The only reason I'm as good at outpost run backs as I am is because I know that map like a rat
some friends of mine were doing two wstr loadouts as a bootleg way to do "free" kits for cryo exploration
Cryo is hard to learn too
the double kill I got yesterday with cyan and blade was really funny
It’s huge and maze like
they just chased after you guys while I was crawling in the vents and then stabbed them to death lmao
Oh my god that was such a weird fight
Best part of knowing outpost like a rat is the memorisation of all the pinwheel exits tho
it was so funny
it had to be infuriating for them
The sum total of my contribution was being rezzed and noticing the invisible assassin sneaking up behind Blade
They picked you, tracked down blade, and then this weird ass vandal crawls out of a vent and stabs your assassin to death and then stabs the destroyer when they come for backup
Otherwise I just blundered into all 3 of them at once and died instantly like a red dead redemption character at the end
id quit the game for the day after that
Cyan has anti assassin vision confirmed, I'm blind af that they have to be running 
the funny part btw is that the assassin didn't see me chasing them
Because they thought I was upstairs
god what a cluster fuck of outpost yesterday
It was very cool to show you the orientation drop off though
Reason I like doing that is because it denies rooks entering and most people forget about it
So you can just leave through the walls and they'll lose track of you
Orientation drop off?
there's vents in the walls of destroyed wing that drop you right into the front door of orientation
without needing to open the security door
and without going to the regular exits elsewhere
Oh pinwheel exits
Yeah
Those are super rarely used
Generally cause most people exist in like the dead or fed state
I still think they should do a thing where you can set up a premade kit to compress a whole loadout into four spaces in the vault.
I don't but again, usually I just 1 tap headshot rooks with the outland. Or last night where a rook killed a rando when I was in trio fill.
They put down a claymore and sat behind it and I was playing vandal and charging the arm cannon going, "shame" before I blew them up with their claymore
Looney Tunes type shit.
P much
Rook standing there like Wile E. Coyote
I like stabbing them to death
I should have grabbed all the red keys tho but I didn't do it cause I assumed the trio fill lobby was gonna be more dangerous
Instead it was 25 or so minutes of me just walking around deleting runners with the outland as they and my teammates bumbled around the map
Such a different game when you know all the spawns and know where you can sit for free info from the spawns
Sadly I still don't have the "stab 25 people to death" knife
I don't either but tbf I think that's just combat eliminations so can just do it off one good cryo run of stabbing bots
Despite my best efforts
it's just hostiles yes
but I just keep barely missing
I had 23 the other day
Apparently I do and I genuinely don’t understand what’s happening
Do I have weird settings?
Could also just have game file corruption somehow but that's thinking zebras when you hear hoofs
Likely some sorta settings thing
I can usually spot them. They shimmer in a similar way to Infiltrators in PlanetSide 2.
Unless they're holding totally still.
I'm betting its a color depth thing
Maybe.
I'm gonna be doing Rook runs for a bit but if anyone wants to group up, I'm down.
Inb4 this is how some people find out they're color blind
I have stuff to loose
What do you see in this circle?
I just started a run, but it's Rook so... y'know. Please tand by.
Sixty sev---how dare u
Yeah if you can only see a six, you're colorblind.
It's 96.
67
It's 96. You should go to an optometrist.
What if I want to go to the Marathon?
How about this one?
"Skin 1 billion runners"
please post a colour blindness test instead of a brown blob next time
Only if it's consensual
but yeah assassins look heat shimmes
cyan do you live further south or in a tropical area
maybe people who see more heat shimmers have anti assassin vicion
Not really
See to me there's nothing if they crouch walk
I do like to play assassin so maybe I get more time looking at the shimmer
How's the Rookage going?
Just trying to go for exfil at the moment.
Ended up teaming up with another Rook and going for Final Exfil.
Quad Damage#7599
Sent req
Not seeing it.
if only this was the kind of game you could listen to music to
or watch a youtube video with
You can
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It keeps butting in whenever I'm trying to listen for shit
I know, i usually upload Faulconer stuff now a days, but i thought I'd try something different. I could'nt find a really high quality version of this song on Youtube, so I recorded/edited this from the GT DVD's, and decided to upload it here in hd. This song gets alot of hate, but i actually kind of like it, aha.
They should change it to 95 so it's a multiple of 7 instead of 100
I kind of want to buy destiny 2
Nah I should just play for honor for my destiny memes
Been having thoughts about marathon
<@&1474420814979010821> any runnahs
Three
I’m a little at work atm
Oh my gosh I just noticed the background
Why can't you be a neet like me cyan it really opens up your free time
We have a spot open
Pretty sure both Cyan and I work day jobs
i am probably gonna go back to working 5-9
Lmao
Why is it called a biotoxic disinjector anyway
Wouldn’t having your biotoxins disinjected be good??
The gun is rapid disinjecting the green slime at your foes
i've literally never seen this gun in operation but by a direct read of the etymology without the modular subtranslations (toxins as english word, injection) it kinda means "removal device that is toxic to life"
like if you point it at somebody and all their proteins blast out of their pores
that would suck
Makes the runner's cognition core or w/e it is called eject from their skulls pretty rapidly
so canonically in the original game i belive its kind of like the dna gun in cruelty squad
where it kinda gloops you by just fucking your entire nervous system beyond belief
It’s also like loaded with ferrofluid or something?
weekly cryo free kits finally
lot of people with money out there that don't normally got it
first cryo run went well but wasnt familiar with exfil procedure
i feel confident in my ability to run it back and pony up gear to stake
every cryo run i've had the team's bumbled around in our spawn before someone else with more security clearance comes in to blow us away
I am more confident in finding exfils now as well
Find exfil terminal with lvl 3 clearance and hit the button.
Then run to that exfil
Bigger issue was finding said terminal
Exfil terminals are near yellow corridors near the corners of Control
I think it went pretty smoothly until the end!
our group was all people who were on their first cryo run lol
so we did not have a lot of the knowledge we needed
aside from eku
learning via being exploded
i was trying to find the terminals but we got a bit rushed and panicked, i could have probably gone ahead and found one of teh exfil terminals but got a bit spooked
didnt lose anything
also i finally got the knife skin
i have all of the "you are not a good person" cosmetics now
Not my first, but still in single digit
I desire to get cryo first runners when I'm going for compiler
I want them to be in their room and suddenly get spooked by the green flashes
type s'pht
<@&1474420814979010821> I feel like running Cryo, maybe in an hour
i join
I am also up for some more Cryo
i have some good loot for it anyway
Btw if you have a Miserah, Cryo is the best place for it
Gonna loot it off the dead runners we create
lemme do 1-2 runs first and pickup some fresh guns
This is my slop from last night's run with cyan and blade
i need a shotty
Found it!
a non-wstr shotty 
I can bring ya a Circuit breaker

j can bring a grey wstr
You got any frags? I recommend bringing 2 if you got em
yeah bring at least 2, ideally 12
i have more grenades in the kit than I showed
I just don't to spoil the surprise
i hate rook runs where im doing good then boom, sudden purple shield team rush
i need to shoot more
Be down for Cryo if there's room/enough interest to get a 2nd squad going
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I'll be on later tonight (~3-4hrs)
im constantly code weasle'ing
Like the synth company?
But seriously Arturia synths are very marathon
ye
check out their website and their hardware and software
It's extremely marathon
it also happens to be my program of choice
im never gonna friendly a rook ever
I think it’s a little less so but this cardputer thingy is also stunningly Marathon
I'll pull up some of their very marathon
it is such a pain getting 3v1'd outta nowhere
like these
arturia has a distinct visual style
Ooh that second one in particular yeah I see it
wait those are actually affordable
<@&1474420814979010821> it has been an hour
fucky wifi tho
when you learn some of the less obvious flank routes in outpost the map feels CRAZY fun actually
wow i completely forgot how bad trio fills are
they also do not know of this lovely thing called push to talk so i need to hear them slurp soda into the mic
@tidal terrace @ivory laurel I shouldn't queue since the wifi is just too inconsistent to run reliably
I feel like if I went in id get code Weasle'd the second I try to run
@tidal terrace do you need a third
I think so
god i wish cox internet wasnt so shit
also i think it might have to do with marathon servers
CW: meat sandwich
In a Single Run:
Eat Fresh 0/1
Exfil Successfully 0/1
<@&1474420814979010821> wifi finally stabilized
will be playing in like, 30 if theres a trio
<@&1474420814979010821>
meming on outpost if anyone wants to join
I think I've got a couple runs in me.
Just need a few minutes.
Quad Damage#7599 whenever you're ready.
still good or no?
I'd be down to clown if we can get a third
im gonna have dinner but i could play in 30-40
Ah, sorry, didn't see the ping. I did a bunch of Rook runs, but I'm good to go again if you want. I probably have energy for a few runs.
I will be free 👍 for marton
I managed to refill my stock of guns, but I need to get more blue shields.
Nucal time for you
This is what came to mind immediately for some reason.
"Why did you Destroyer Explode?"
"Teleport to Dire Marsh."
"Darsh."
"It's Dire Marsh time for you."
I can fill any empty slots later if y'all will have me
I wanna take some serious cracks at Cryo Archive
hearing "we'll take care of you" as a rook
<@&1474420814979010821> lookin for a third if anyone's up
I wish I could run today 
I'm in, gimme a sec
we're doing a meme run first
My aunt’s visiting so I’ll be away for a lot of this evening and tomorrow haha
stabbing people in perimeter
I’m a stab enabler. 🙂
<@&1474420814979010821> slot opened up
first successful cryo exfil
@cosmic flame the humble Punishment Mod
i wonder what THATS for.
also did prove that my theory of being able to hear final exfil more easily than spot it
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone wanna play?
it’s like nine AM UCT
fair
Also an international discord
Ye, we are pretty international. Like it's just past noon here
If I was home I'd have been game yeah
Yeah, I think that if you opt into a role which isn't timezone specific, you have to accept that folk outside of your timezone also exist.
As someone living in the American south, I wish I didn’t live in my own timezone.
Are you in Brazil time
Im in EST but I also work nights so im on weirdo time lol
Central time here
EST.
gaius posted something so bad even his friends were down on it
Let’s get you patched up.
Akira psychic blast image flash
Ok I need to see that
What was it yeah
Trying to find motivation to play this again
It's okay to not play
If it wasnt for me randomly queueing cryo and getting AI subroutines I would probably just be spamming random trio fill runs going for shell mastery
I got vandal yesterday shooting down from destroyed wing to get the 20m from above
Captioned "let's get you patched up habibi"
Lmfao oh no
The spinal curving that poor shell is experiencing
had to explain marathon lore to my gf over breakfast today
now she's mad at me for increasing the backlog
Nah just tell her that shells are basically just web packets trying to inject themselves into http requests and getting a return is them successfully extracting
She wanted to know about the original triology
There’s some great 5 hour youtube videos that can do it justice, lol
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for a few runs?
Give me like twenty mins and I can
omk im free
can join now if we get a third
Anyone else? I am down for w/e
i can join in 5
Dope, I'll get a channel going
Okee Dokee

