Added buttons to the relevant vents which increase the security requirement to use them
#Marathon
neat nest
placid oxide
Added buttons to the relevant vents which increase the security requirement to u...
I dig it, I’m glad they did so. Aggressive pushing with security clearance is one thing but getting killed before you’re even through with your 2nd room sounded frustrating.
neat nest
I agree
ivory laurel
Anyone got any tips for getting out some key templates?
neat nest
- load into Perimeter
- hide in one of the 1000 hiding places not at a POI
- wait 10 minutes or so
- take a newly spawned exfil where you don’t hear shots
You can also do this on Outpost but it’s harder because of the secure exfils
Dire Marsh is too contested for safe midgame exfils
sand sluice
Outpost my trick was uhh
Wait 10 minutes
Then wait for pinwheel security breach
Then high speed loot the room and exfil
neat nest
For cooking key templates?
sand sluice
Oh for making them?
Can prob do the same
Pinwheel security breach happens just exfil
neat nest
That’s what I’m thinking as well
Though I always did Perimeter
Just wait for a bit after breach and take a guarded or something
sand sluice
Alternatively
Embrace the sayings of charter
Simply wipe the lobby 
It might not work 99 times
But it might work once
patent thicket
I’ve got a bunch of lockbox keys if anyone’s interested in trying to use them later tonight. (I’m in the Eastern Time Zone.)
indigo oriole
i should use mine up too
tawdry sequoia
I have a free yellow key template from getting the unlock last night 
(purple? the highest level CyAc one)
purple, yeah, the superior
I've not gone full coward mode for a blue template before, but I might for a purple
indigo oriole
honestly i should do trios here idk why im so shy about it
sand sluice
I'm too exhausted to voice comm is the primary reason I don't always do it 
I wish I had more time
I wanted as a silly experiment
Make a 2nd account and try to do every priority contract without attacking another runner
mossy bridge
I'm too exhausted to voice comm is the primary reason I don't always do it <:sad...
I don’t have a mic and I still do it
tidal terrace
oh my hgod lmao
indigo oriole
im machine
mossy bridge
this machine knows the difference between metal and flesh and it is hungry for your skin
cinder hare
oh my hgod lmao
iykyk
tidal terrace
iykyk
my "i have never been convicted of sexual relations with a tau ceti iv runner" t-shirt has prompted many questions that the t-shirt answers
mossy bridge
echo 
pulse
cinder hare
my "i have never been convicted of sexual relations with a tau ceti iv runner" t...
:)
cinder hare
Have you SEEN recon’s hand movements during echo pulse
im aware
i love how recon is lesbian bait
mossy bridge
Call her woody guthrie the way her fingers operate this machine
cinder hare
and then vandal is trans bait
mossy bridge
assassin is twink bait
cinder hare
and then theres the evil and intimidating destroyer
mossy bridge
rook is for the V1 demographic
tidal terrace
what is thief
mossy bridge
keep sucking his flat face.
cinder hare
what is thief
third wheel
mossy bridge
Destroyer is ace he is in love with his guns and nothing else
cinder hare
just a dude whose :) all the time
cinder hare
Destroyer is ace he is in love with his guns and nothing else
evil and intimidating (skins you)
spamton gif detected automatic blocking proceedure active
tidal terrace
if i wanted bait i would just text my gf and ask for her opinions on robots
mossy bridge
spamton gif detected automatic blocking proceedure active
What Did I Even Do
slow rock
gaius.... thank you.......
patent thicket
That’s so nice of him.
slow rock
noticed by my oshi
patent thicket
I’m still amused that every conversation with Gaius is just him learning something new and more fucked up about Tau Ceti IV and just kinda going “Damn, that’s crazy.”
It’s like, him and _gantry trying to actually find out what happened and _gantry seems way more shaken than Gaius.
“It was aliens, Gaius.”
“Sheesh. I mean, dang. That’s crazy. I mean. Dang.”
slow rock
I like the part where he goes "the researchers at dire marsh actually tried to cure people? wow. exceeding expectations right there"
patent thicket
“Investigate the death fungus.”
“Okay, Gaius.”
“Here’s a drinkable cheeseburger.”
“No, Gaius.”
slow rock
a fun little glimpse at the nucaloric corporate culture
cinder hare
It’s like, him and _gantry trying to actually find out what happened and _gantry...
i gotta wonder who _gantry broadcasts to now
its just runners hearing his propaganda, right?
slow rock
uesc staff too I assume
slow rock
orion wouldn't, you never know about whoever else is on the team there
cinder hare
final MIDA mission where you raid pinnacle room with a hoard of UESC defectors or something like that
patent thicket
Anyone who’ll listen.
neat nest
There’s other UESC people around Outpost just… not on the map or something
There’s some logs involving them
celest forum
Also like... I assume some ships in orbit?
We keep being sent down to tc4
I imagine they aren't teleporting us all the way to Sol and back
slow rock
yeah there's a log regarding orion reporting to another higherup where he mentions losing people to the anomaly
so he's certainly not alone
patent thicket
Yeah. There’s a flotilla of UESC ships and the corpo ships showed up a little later.
IIRC, anyway?
celest forum
Part of me wonders if consciousness can be stored and transmitted the way they do, can it be copied
Is that way there's thousands of runners who all have the same half dozen identities and were all just kinda used to the idea of shells being a template becausewe're templates
mossy bridge
I thought the corporations were all in Sol
And that’s why we needed FTL comms back up
cinder hare
there's gotta be at least one freak whose cloned themselves into like 3 bodies and now just enjoys their polyselfcule
mossy bridge
To get jobs from them
mossy bridge
there's gotta be at least one freak whose cloned themselves into like 3 bodies a...
charter
neat nest
And that’s why we needed FTL comms back up
They are but there’s a local runner ship which makes the bodies and has the servers and such on it I think
It’s a mentioned as a joint Traxus Sekiguchi thing in the old ARG
celest forum
Sekiguchi got the Runner Factory in high orbit or smth yeah
Since traxus has legal salvage rights
I think CyAcme and NuCal are just part of that joint consortium of unofficially allied corpogoblins
MIDA is a terrorist organization and Arachne is a death cult
With the luxury of their dead coming back when they have runners
neat nest
NuCaloric seems to have legally enforceable salvage rights but wasn’t mentioned in the ARG
Arachne is very specifically a “death you recover from” cult
mossy bridge
They all do except mida because they’re terrorists and Arachne because they don’t give a shit about anything except murder
neat nest
Charter mentions they got started from revelations felt during cryosleep
celest forum
Yeah they wanna basically perfect humanity through the Tournament Nexus (autocorrect but honestly an improvement)
cinder hare
yeah
celest forum
I'm just mad that the MIDA skins aren't as cool as _g looks
mossy bridge
True
celest forum
I want weird holographic graffiti bullshit
celest forum
I'm surprised mida isn't behind rooks tbh
"hijacking the cop robot and being a gremlin" seems very on brand
mossy bridge
Nobody knows who leaked the specs for the UESC recruits that became Rook
But it was probably MIDA
or someone sympathetic to them
patent thicket
“friend :)”
cinder hare
i still believe rooks have aggro matchmaking
patent thicket
I live in a vent and scurry out to grab unstable gel off the ground.
celest forum
I love being friend rook
cinder hare
i love being murder rook
celest forum
Two rooks staring at each other in prolonged awkward silence
There is a rock on the ground between them
patent thicket
What do you guys think Destroyer looks like without his helmet?
I bet he’s handsome. 🙂
celest forum
I mean if I go by voice I agree
I expect that to be a pleasant face
Plus all the shells got a kind of appeal to them as far as the face we can see
Recon just a mouth tho
wraith vector
There might not even be more face, yeah
celest forum
Honestly if I could replace my head with a helmet looking apparatus and still have everything work I would
patent thicket
He has his mouth exposed to drink cheeseburgers.
celest forum
Me trying to think of what a runnersona would look like if I made one and it's just a mix of assassin and recon bits with a full face covering visor and a destiny style hunter cloak
patent thicket
I’ve been working on an idea for that too.
celest forum
Generic, yes, but tell me it wouldn't blend into the setting seamlessly
patent thicket
I really like the Destroyer’s look.
celest forum
If anything I'd give the design funny legs like those cool prosthetics with the like curved leg bit
sand sluice
I don't like the base destroyer look
but I do like the look when he actually gets a full helmet
patent thicket
I like it with the MIDA skin a lot.
The white armor you get out of the box is kinda meh.
celest forum
Aesthetically the Azrael Assassin and the way the Midnight Thief skin (the spooky one with the runner blueblood spatter) looks are peak to me
I should try running thief more
Grappling hook and "what if recon pulse didn't take three minutes to reload and was better" speaks to me
mossy bridge
Grappling hook and "what if recon pulse didn't take three minutes to reload and ...
what if your drone did something too
finds enemies AND explodes, this time doing something more than just tickling them
oh shit nice blue shields for neurochems
celest forum
Yeah if crab could ping things when it picks a friend and was more than a sneeze I'd be down
mossy bridge
that's pickpocket drone
- flies fast
- blows up if you put a claymore on it
- can ping anything like you would
- can even pick shit up and open doors
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for a few runs?
tidal terrace
i am but im very new
celest forum
I'm at work but if people are running in a few hours I'll be down
sand sluice
Im stuck at work yeah
indigo oriole
time to introduce may to losing everything
placid oxide
If we can get 3 I'll get a room set up!
patent thicket
bongus marton
placid oxide
Did a rook run where a random thief tried to murder me, missed their wstr shots and got stabbed to death. This person had 3 red cards on them and I got to open pinwheel room by myself. Where was their team, why did they randomly try to attack me when they’re apparently legally blind.
placid oxide
Yeah…
I am really hoping for sponsered kit cryo one week
I saw that suggested on reddit and I would actually love the chance to run it without fear to be able to really commit the map to memory
tawdry sequoia
I'm a lot lower on my patch kits
I do like to take a stack each to a more kitted run, they really do help get back in action
chilly pebble
I like running 3 of each of the blues alongside my 3 of each of the greens
I don't really need more than that, and it means if I find some in mission I can easily have space for em
placid oxide
I ran through a full 2 stacks of blues in a single DM run where we were trying for a key room.
tawdry sequoia
that was a crazy match to be fair
placid oxide
Fair. I do also tend to heal to top off more than is maybe necessary.
tawdry sequoia
I mean the alternative is underhealing like me and then being salty when someone downs you way easier for it
echo scroll
I should probably uh
Oh I have 3 full stacks of each, I am so reliant of triage drones
patent thicket
I've got four of these, if anyone wants to do some runs.
random vessel
I can be around
tidal terrace
<@&1474420814979010821> Need a third.
i could join but im very new
patent thicket
That's okay, it's not like I'm an expert myself.
random vessel
Ur fine
patent thicket
My Bungie ID is Quad Damage#7599
random vessel
C-class Hero#3010 on my end
tidal terrace
just to boot up
patent thicket
That's okay I'm just fussing with my inventory.
cinder hare
i could join but im very new
That's actually a bonus
neat nest
dire marsh is my favorite map btw
cinder hare
ooh neuro-optic
ivory laurel
Is/was Dire Marsh 5 or 6 squads?
mossy bridge
5 I think
mossy bridge
tidal terrace
@neat nest @random vessel i finally did that goddamn prio contract i was trying to do yesterday with the full map rotation of perimeter. ended up encountering a recon who said "hiiii" while we shot the fuck out of each other. i got their shields and cores for free
i went in with the sponsored kit lol
random vessel
Niiice
neat nest
That’s a good haul
tidal terrace
it was a very very nice haul yeah
i felt better about killing a green shield with nucal kit than the haul honestly
and getting hte contract
mossy bridge
what was the schema
tidal terrace
uhh honestly dont remember?
tidal terrace
what was the schema
looks like magnum with ping v4?
ivory laurel
Only 3 claymores seems bad
tawdry sequoia
I was too tired and busy to play yesterday 
I need to have less things to do so I can play more Marathon and git gud
celest forum
I actually find myself not enjoying the snipers in this game
Mind you I'm also a tremendous SMG and shotgun enjoyer but
Usually I at least kinda like using them
oak glacier
I'm happy with all the experiments they've been doing
The depleted healing item buff clearly came from the sponsored marsh data, and it's honestly a perfect place to test this too
celest forum
I desperately want to play with the volt shotgun but it keeps eluding me
mossy bridge
neat nest
Yea
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some early Cryo runs?
mossy bridge
i have not played once today but sure
you know what this game needs
the ability to put things in inventory overflow while sorting
even if there's not tetris in this game
oak glacier
yeah i do hope theyll improve the vault ui a bit
neat nest
Would be nice yeah
oak glacier
a search would be nice @_@
mossy bridge
true
neat nest
You can use your backpack but it’s awkward to switch with
mossy bridge
also actually showing the items that materialist and anomaly give you upon exfil
oh i forgot i had Twelve MIDA Free Kits in my inventory
guess ill warm up a lil on free kit runs while waiting for a third
celest forum
I like when the free kit gives me an lmg
Because then my starting kit is whatever the first runner I see brought to the mission
pale flare
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some early Cryo runs?
I haven't done cryo since day one, but I'd be down
placid oxide
I'll get a VC going then
pale flare
Amaryllis#7956
placid oxide
I did not know the misriah's gold mod was a full auto mode lol
I may have to grab 2 of those just to have around
twin rain
I need a Misriah so bad. I've got like 2 whole guns worth of purple mods for it just. Waiting.
tidal terrace
Because then my starting kit is whatever the first runner I see brought to the m...
It's always a second LMG
My friend told me that he brought his nucal kit to a gun fight against another nucal kit and lost it so he just got a new one and I told him it sounds like he's feeding nucal kits to the uesc and he started crying
mossy bridge
Had one misriah and it was nice
Just a real fucking nice feeling pump shotgun
Nothing special about it
it feels like the embodiment of
neat nest
Very much so
placid oxide
Interested to see how the circuit breaker is viewed now that the wstr is less omnipresent
neat nest
I think they gotta make some guns more common to really shake up the meta
Like I’ve had dozens of wstrs
And uh 2 Misriahs ever
And between 0-1 circuit breakers
Nerfing the WSTR isn’t gonna make me use those I’ll just use the Bully
oak glacier
i do wonder what the economy will be in s2
cause i expect theyll do bigger changes with a reset on the table
neat nest
My wish is for a substantially flatter weapon availability curve
More expensive guns in arms lockers
More random UESC drops
Clearer ways to get rare salvage or reduced requirements for it
oak glacier
yeah
it is harder to experiment with this since items will escape into the wider economy if you have a "flat weapon curve dire marsh"
but again
with data from s1
i do hope theyll make drop rate changes
neat nest
Same
They had a very flat very random curve in the MCTT
Which I liked but it was also whack
Like I got 1 ares and 1 wstr ever
And so many twin taps
slow rock
I've made it to 69 hours played now (nice) and I still feel like I've not seen half the weapons in this game
patent thicket
What’s a Misriah? I’ve never seen one.
Up to my eyeballs in Punches and Retaliators though.
patent thicket
c-cadia…
ivory laurel
Cadia has fallen
patent thicket
Cadia stands in my heart, dammit!
tidal terrace
ilike this game a lot i think
indigo oriole
im really enjoying the sponsored kit mode
reminds me of the very first week or two where arms locker spawns were hotly contested
tidal terrace
im really enjoying the sponsored kit mode
My favourite thing about the sponsored kit is that the basic weapon is in fact good enough to chew a decent number of runners who are on green or blue shield with good positioning
And then you can just. Have their stuff
indigo oriole
its free stuff
tidal terrace
It's free stuff
I try to at least be kind to people I murder for their gear
I apologise for it
indigo oriole
time for me to try and do all these 'in one run' dire marsh missions
cinder hare
it is indeed free stuff
tidal terrace
time for me to try and do all these 'in one run' dire marsh missions
Average in one run mission reads like "sound an alarm and shoot your friend and then get bit by a tick but in the butt and jump up and down then loot a piece of biorod and kill 456 runners and spin on yo head
like why are we doing this
indigo oriole
runnah
i need you to ding dong ditch the uesc 3 times in dire marsh
tidal terrace
what could mida possibly get out of this
cinder hare
average mida mission is like,
"go on a date with UESC commander"
"cheat on her with vandal"
"broadcast her reaction on the net"
(all in one run)
neat nest
The lore reason is you’re collecting experimental data for the research AI who runs R&D for the company that makes shells
And uh a lot of it is weird dangerous drugs
But it’s fine
cinder hare
wtf does the simbiont do anyways
neat nest
Your bodies undergoes a death-analogue after 25 minutes
neat nest
wtf does the simbiont do anyways
Each one does different things I think there’s a lore entry
indigo oriole
i trust moth mom with my life
i do love the drugs its like 'take this shit that we normally use to make resident evil bosses and like, go scan yourself while high on it'
cinder hare
i kinda love this
neat nest
It’s really charming
cinder hare
ATP collapse risk: significantly elevated**
tidal terrace
i kinda love this
kojima birthday cutscene vibes
cinder hare
It’s really charming
its also just really cute
like its very corporate
but also, i love how its kinda unfiltered in like, "btw bureaucracy fucking sucks so thank you for using the protomolecule on yourself"
and them being like "also you got us a budget increase we love you, more budget wahoo!"
tawdry sequoia
I wish, I'm still in marton jail (work)
indigo oriole
i can marton
random vessel
gimmie 15 and i can be in
neat nest
I’m available but kinda worn out
placid oxide
Seepy Marton
sand sluice
I apologise for it
No need, the loot taketh and the loot giveth
patent thicket
pale flare
<@&1474420814979010821> one for marton
neat nest
I can hop on in a few
placid oxide
I can as well
twin rain
I may endeavor for a 2nd squad in a wee bit
patent thicket
I might be free.
twin rain
lets roll
patent thicket
I'll come in just a second.
pale flare
<@&1474420814979010821> had a space open up if anyone wants to join
cinder hare
im playing tarkov rn
twin rain
<@&1474420814979010821> late night post-dinner runback
lament pecan
i took it upon myself to show my two partners that started playing marathon like last month cryo archive for the first time.
somehow we managed a hail mary final exfil without even figuring out where the spawn was first and it was the most stressful experience ive ever had in this game and i want to do it again
sand sluice
me, "fuck it, not doing anything else, I'll goober around in cryo fill cause only got 1ish month left"
complete vaults 1-3
gets things
tawdry sequoia
jesus christ
placid oxide
i took it upon myself to show my two partners that started playing marathon like...
The tension of Cryo run exfils when you know nothing about the map, with the music kicking in and you’re dodging players and bots is the best high this game has to offer.
tidal terrace
always something really fuinny about when youre just trying to learn a map with a sponsored kit and an assassin gets you and dissapointedly walks away
slow rock
solo assassins make me wish that trap bags were an actual bag you equipped that simply pop a grenade in their face if they loot you
tawdry sequoia
I have solved this issue by only playing Rook solo
placid oxide
I run solo exclusively to do key templates, otherwise it’s all rook or fill
tawdry sequoia
I should play fill more, but the times I do want to play there's usually peeps here
tidal terrace
solo assassins make me wish that trap bags were an actual bag you equipped that ...
solo assassins remind me of those like
really really large rats in new york
that struggle to open empty pizza boxes
they kill you and open your bag and surprise its a mi/da sponsored kit
slow rock
folks have caught on by now for the most part but right after the recent recon buffs, hunting assassins was great sport
neat nest
Yeah
slow rock
rook city, tau ceti
tawdry sequoia
Outpost can be a bit confusing but honestly it tends to have fewer unsatisfying run ends than Dire Marsh imo
I remember one Outpust run that tilted me a bit, compared to a good few Marsh ones
patent thicket
solo assassins make me wish that trap bags were an actual bag you equipped that ...
This is what I thought it was the first time I used one. Imagine my disappointment.
indigo oriole
i like how many options outpost offers for varied firefights
tidal terrace
<@&1474420814979010821> hello marton. i am unemployed. anyone want to go to outpost
neat nest
I’m too employed but I’ll be around in about 5-6 hours
tawdry sequoia
oh my gosh same
sand sluice
I'll be home roughly same time yeah
patent thicket
I’m employed and can’t for minimum 4.5 hours.
chilly pebble
patent thicket
Something I was thinking about. They probably employ runners in all kinds of dangerous fields. They got us on TCIV but there’s probably a lot of them living that Hardspace Shipbreaker life back in Sol.
neat nest
lol
chilly pebble
I mean yeah, shell tech isn't just for us
there's gotta be so much fuckin' slavery using them especially on mars
patent thicket
That’s what came to mind, yeah. Shit’s bleak.
chilly pebble
mars already tried to get away from UESC once, they're not gonna loosen that collar ever
twin rain
it probably costs too much for the average corpo to use en masse when population and poverty is already very high on mars. there's probably someone desperate enough to do the job at hand and the corpo benefits from their relative disposability
patent thicket
Could be, but they probably do use them for hazardous work.
chilly pebble
Also that once your mind is digitized you.. can't really undo that
Because while rook can hack into a uesc bot, there's no fuckin' way seki nor uesc will allow that
twin rain
stuck in shell work til your psyche unravels from the accumulated trauma from too many work accidents
chilly pebble
And then you suddenly understand what durandal was talking about
tidal terrace
oh my god lmfao
just got the end of run cutaway as usual
saw a recon snipe a destroyer in the exfil space and the destroyer went down
and then the exfil popped and they didnt even get the loot
twin rain
yuup. exfilling while downed is great tech (it won't exfil a body bag)
the "fuck you for getting away with it" snipe
chilly pebble
Honestly I'd be fine if it exfilled body bags if the player was still around
twin rain
nahhh
the scary tech is when a thief drone zaps you when you're in the exfil zone and you drop your biggest item on the floor
tidal terrace
yuup. exfilling while downed is great tech (it won't exfil a body bag)
the funny part is that the exfil was gonna pop anyway
it was already active
neat nest
There’s a lot of mars lore (ok maybe not a lot a lot but more than I expected) in the arg
tidal terrace
they just shot that guy for no reason
twin rain
exactly! the fuck you shot
neat nest
Mars is seemingly much wealthier now
indigo oriole
sometimes as rook i open fire at people on activated exfils just to feel something
tidal terrace
sometimes as vandal i sit in hauler and have lunch and then crawl up the vents and kill people
patent thicket
This weekend, my goal is to be way more aggressive as a Destroyer because trying to play it safe gets me slimed more often than not.
tidal terrace
AFFIRM: Slime or be Slimed. AFFIRM: Slime or be Slimed.
patent thicket
My situational awareness is getting better, my positioning needs improvement and I need to work on using my abilities in combat. And remembering grenades exist.
sand sluice
I had no goals
I'm just glad I got cryo 1-3 subroutines done
I want to eventually get vandal compiler skin
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some daytime running?
tidal terrace
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some daytime running?
give me 15 minutes and i can
eating some nutritional intake
tidal terrace
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some daytime running?
twoday#2911
placid oxide
invite sent
neat nest
Huh
indigo oriole
oho
tawdry sequoia
huh indeed
tawdry sequoia
supposedly they are looking into the CARRI salvage kits not giving good enough loot as well
slow rock
that's pretty good
cinder hare
Lmao they said sorry gacha rates suck
tawdry sequoia
I think they screwed up somewhere and it's generating a tier lower than it's supposed to
or it's based on a much more worse weighting than intended, cause yeah I've gotten pretty much only greens from the blue pack
and I know people have gotten whites too
neat nest
Dang
placid oxide
Yeah I bought multiple of them that first week and quickly realized they were dog water compared to saving up for a key template and rep packs
twin rain
Yeah I've gotten only grey salvage outta the green packs
slow rock
the rep packs were quite nice
tawdry sequoia
yeah you get better salvage from the rep packs honestly
sand sluice
placid oxide
Double checking, anyone up to fill as a third for some contract runs?
mossy bridge
Double checking, anyone up to fill as a third for some contract runs?
sure
ivory laurel
I dunno why, but it feels like teams spawn closer together now, disregarding map. Like seconds from spawning encountering 2 teams
neat nest
I feel like there’s more spawn rushing now
placid oxide
Even Cryo, they want to they just can't as easily now
sand sluice
And even then that's just dependent on getting a lobby with a stack wanting to lobby wipe or not
If you stay out of the way and run at first sight of another team you're fine tho
Unlike dire marsh or outpost where just safer to lobby wipe so you can do everything uncontested
ivory laurel
Had a Perimeter run where 4 teams were at North Relay in the first like 4 mins it felt like
sand sluice
Had that too at one point but seemed rather low
Ideally matchmaking changes would fix such occurrences if it's happening a lot
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone?
mossy bridge
if you can get a second player i could join
tidal terrace
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone?
gmme 20 minutes and i could join
cinder hare
sure y not then
final onyx
lmk if you need me
cinder hare
may what level are you
tidal terrace
17
indigo oriole
Catching up to me already
cinder hare
coffee reasonable
tidal terrace
coffee reasonable
tag is twoday#2911
cinder hare
mossy bridge
schmoney
slow rock
also lol
I thought I had this one today but it only tracks personal kills and I had only shot two of the rooks we encountered 😔
tidal terrace
I thought I had this one today but it only tracks personal kills and I had only ...
i killed a rook right at the start who i didnt realise was friendly and then another rook came along and res'd me after a third rook had taken me down and then those two rooks went and got downed by a bot and they had been res'd once already so i had to put them down
slow rock
I want that sticker so bad
slate field
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some Cryo runs?
twin rain
Will be home from work in like 45m if you're (or anyone else is) still lookin
slate field
I have other people that want to do Helldivers later, so I don't know how long I have to play Marathon now
tidal terrace
got shot by a rook who failed to extract because they shot me instead
truly, an iq too high
patent thicket
The mind of a Rook is inscrutable.
sharp plover
final onyx
i was playing triage so i got pissed by proxy
tawdry sequoia
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone wanna squad?
random vessel
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone wanna squad?
I can be around in 5
pale flare
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone wanna squad?
I can hop on
tawdry sequoia
k, I'll get vc up
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> What are the odds we have a second squad up to forming?
cinder hare
trying ABI rn
patent thicket
I'd like to, but I probably won't be available for another hour or so.
neat nest
I gotta eat dinner then I am
placid oxide
Any ETA cyan?
neat nest
I’m free now
tawdry sequoia
tidal terrace
rook players are lowkey the arc raiders ot eh communtiy
patent thicket
Raccoons.
patent thicket
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some late-night runs?
neat nest
gr8 run
sand sluice
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some late-night runs?
I can yeah
placid oxide
Loaded in solo to make a key from a template
Chilling in the most out of the way spot near Overflow and a fella just waltzes over, not paying attention
Turns out, he has a key on him for the room at Overflow and a full loadout
2 keys from 1 run
cosmic flame
neat nest
Lmao
placid oxide
I am just glad that it wasn't another data wall room key
@patent thicket @sand sluice Y'all want to group?
placid oxide
After 150 hours I finally exfiled with a misriah
I can’t wait to load in, over-commit and die with this having fired exactly 1 shot
ivory laurel
Now to never use it
placid oxide
Oh I’ll use it alright
Maybe not well
Thing’s so damn rare I don’t actually have a feel for it at all.
ivory laurel
I want to get a 2nd one so I can bring it into run
placid oxide
I bought the prestige mod for it a few days ago on a whim so at the very least it will be very shiny when I do use it.
neat nest
I can’t wait to load in, over-commit and die with this having fired exactly 1 sh...
I fired 2 when this happened to me
placid oxide
Brag about it Cyan
twin rain
the quest to empty a misriah tube before dying
placid oxide
At least that’s one contract you don’t have to go to Bio-Research to fulfill?
twin rain
about that...
final onyx
<@&1474420814979010821> who up shifting they paradigm
mossy bridge
sure i can caloric my nu
twin rain
shore
final onyx
voice channel up
tidal terrace
<@&1474420814979010821> who up shifting they paradigm
i can join in a bit
final onyx
o shit
tidal terrace
<@&1474420814979010821> enough for a second squad?
twin rain
I'll be on later most likely
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> enough for a second squad?
Will be on soon
tidal terrace
i finally stole from outpost and survived
slow rock
I could do some runs
tidal terrace
I could do some runs
ok i can join in maybe 10 then
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> since im now ready
slow rock
alas
cinder hare
in which case ill hop onto random q street brawl
slow rock
I'm guessing we're martoning another time then
sand sluice
I wonder if I'll get compiler done before I hit 25 successful exfils 
tidal terrace
I'm guessing we're martoning another time then
later, yeah
neat nest
mossy bridge
m77 my love
tidal terrace
I'm guessing we're martoning another time then
thijs you still on?
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> need third
slow rock
thijs you still on?
I'm getting ready for bed. normie sleep schedule, I'm sorry
indigo oriole
what a chudling
patent thicket
How long is Cryo still up for?
twin rain
cyro access ends <t:1777222800:R>
I think anyways, might be off by an hour due to daylight savings time in one timezone or another
patent thicket
All right, just double checking because I probably won't be available until later tonight and I want to try Cryo at least one time this weekend.
tidal terrace
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone who can support a shivering sad duo
patent thicket
Ssssure, I think I can do a couple of runs before dinner.
tidal terrace
twoday#2911
placid oxide
Cryo ending middle of the day Sunday is so weird
sand sluice
I can fill for like an hr or 2 sounds like
just helped a poor free kit who got marton'd with the mm lel
def crazy tho how hard wstr got nerfed, it's to the point I'm seeing people take a 2nd mid range gun over the wstr
feels nice the misriah is actually the go-to shotgun now
neat nest
Yeah it’s hard to use now
tidal terrace
got my first purple shield and purple backpack
patent thicket
🎉
tidal terrace
🎉
Honestly I'm happy I spotted that one runner at the end cause that was 100% a scenario where we get pinged and die at exfil
and instead I believe they cut and split after seeing a three stack spot them
patent thicket
I think you're probably right. The post-exfil spycam showed us a scene worthy of Khorne that we totally avoided.
neat nest
It's so funny when you exfil and its stressful because you keep hearing shots in the distance and they might be coming closer and then the post-run cam is just the kingsman church scene 120 meters away
patent thicket
tidal terrace
It's so funny when you exfil and its stressful because you keep hearing shots in...
That was literally what was going down yeah the last two teams were wiping each other
I had a dream about getting slimed in intersection
cinder hare
Honestly I'm happy I spotted that one runner at the end cause that was 100% a sc...
Managed to blast their shields and held a thermal angle on them so they couldn't do shit :)
neat nest
I'm so glad I'm out of the matchmaking strata where every Darsh game has 3+ teams doing the pilgrimage from Bioresearch to Quarantine for one reason or another
cinder hare
Also i really really wanted to push algae there cuz it was a fucking WAR and if I could land my shots we'd have so much loot
neat nest
I love ponds because it's inexplicably as bad to try to attack as it is to defend
cinder hare
Thermals dont feel fun to use ngl
tidal terrace
I'm so glad I'm out of the matchmaking strata where every Darsh game has 3+ team...
We had to do that this run because we had to get quarantine key and then go to ai uplink and then go to anomaly and then go to maintenance to avoid danger and then go to west gate for dcon and intersectionvto exfil
cinder hare
I kinda wish there was a way to balance them outside of just "less range" and stuff
neat nest
There's other levers I think
cinder hare
I like the realism route where it's based on heat levels and thermals have like, 20hz refresh rate, etc
neat nest
Like making the range falloff soft (EG - how brightly lit a target is fades to 0 slowly instead of dropping all at once) or giving them a "fade in" as they detect they people or making them generate heat as your shell works to keep the gallium cool or etc
I do think they needed a bludgeoning but the state they've been left in makes smoke really hard to counter haha
cinder hare
Also another thing is that thermals have naturally kinda really low resolutiojs
Like 240p
neat nest
Well, for irl ones
I think that's the tricky thing about Marathon thermals - they ought to be a lot more advanced feeling (and mostly are)
tidal terrace
Spectroscopy goggles instead of thermals
cinder hare
I personally believe that thermals would be 10x cooler if they had like, ewar based mechanics
neat nest
just equalize the playing field and give everyone flir mode eyes
random vessel
shell that can pop flares when
cinder hare
Where like, they work kinda weakly normally, but then if you stare at someone for a few moments it locks and highlights brighter
neat nest
Where like, they work kinda weakly normally, but then if you stare at someone fo...
Or tie brightness to Firewall stat
cinder hare
Yeah that's my first thought
neat nest
I definitely agree that the current bludgeoning they've gotten was needed to make the sandbox bigger but they also need something of a buff and rework
Cause now I basically just don't bother looking for them lol
They're hard to find and only situationally good
cinder hare
Also I think itd be fun to have "heatwaves" as weather
neat nest
(Thermal snipers nonwithstanding)
cinder hare
Man I really want to make a very specific flavor of extraction shooter now
I think I like the idea that shells have e-war subsystems advanced enough that thermals have huge parts of it replaced by CPU and AI-seek/lock systems in order to function right, which costs a lot of resolution and such
neat nest
I do like how the wstr nerf has made for way more mid-range fights with automatics
Since it's less rewarding to push CQB unless you have a clear advantage
I do think they can revert the first round of wstr nerfs now though (recoil increased, draw time increased)
So it's clearer as a role as a pocket emergency problem solver up close
cinder hare
I just wanted heavily reduced RoF for it, personally
Alongside 100 flat damage if all pellets connect
Instead of 150 or so
neat nest
I think it's in a good spot as the damaged/cracked shield atomic bomber
neat nest
I did not haha, it was too homogenous imo
Which is to say the combination of the wstr being BiS up close, close to BiS in general and the general necessity of CQB in Marathon combined with it being the easiest 7k weapon to get meant that you could reasonably expect everyone geared to be running it and approach thusly
And especially when you got to Cryo it was kind of annoying how every fight was wstr-dominated outside of some places in Control
Now the I guess "grenade meta" is also kinda whack in Cryo but I've also had some more exciting midrange cat-and-mouses there
cinder hare
Oh yeah it's too good in general but i liked how it was a really good pick for point blank in general
neat nest
Yeah I do run into an issue now where I'm kinda like "uhhhh" when it comes to choosing a CQB option
cinder hare
Like I still want it to be The Point Blank pick, but not quite The Shotgun
neat nest
Like I still want it to be The Point Blank pick, but not quite The Shotgun
I think it's still one of the best options there
It has like a 375ms ttk
with shoot shoot punch
neat nest
I thought it was like 316
So it's probably like 400 now
But the punch is very fast
It just has lots of recovery frames
tidal terrace
I have used vandal power slide into wstr into slap many many times to pick rooks in pinwheel
And frankly they deserve it
Should've fucking known better
neat nest
I was doing Unsanctioned Hostilities 4 recently and there was a rook who I think was trying to be friendly
tidal terrace
Nobody loots pinnacle without me
neat nest
But I couldn't really hear whatever they said in prox chat
And just unloaded the brrt I picked up on them lol
tidal terrace
Cyan there was a funny incident yesterday with a rook I had
neat nest
Taking 0 chances on UH4
tidal terrace
I was drunk after a graduation party
And accidentally queued rook on perim
Shot the first person I saw
He downed me and then said verbatim
"what the fuck is wrong with you? we're rooks. We fight together. Kill together. Strive together. Now get back up and-" at which point I said "I forgot" in voice chat and he then promptly killed me for being a girl
average rook player after encountering a human instead of a faceless vulture
neat nest
lmao
I do like the emergent dynamic that other rooks are plausibly friendly but other runners are almost certainly not
cinder hare
"what the fuck is wrong with you? we're rooks. We fight together. Kill together....
Yeah ive been called the hard n word so many times
neat nest
I've apparently been blessed in prox chat I so rarely run into that stuff
I do run into a lot of people who are just [inaudible, quiet] though
tidal terrace
Yeah ive been called the hard n word so many times
I mean you know what I sound like and they just randomly kill me so much more often for being a girl lmao
tidal terrace
I do run into a lot of people who are just [inaudible, quiet] though
the average rook player is honestly much more like "imw gogiring gmdmghh tof epinewehel"
neat nest
lol yea
cinder hare
I mean you know what I sound like and they just randomly kill me so much more of...
Yeah, just, god fuck the casual toxicity, fuck the misogyny
tidal terrace
they're gamers
cinder hare
I only feel halfway ok prox chatting because for some reason people really like my voice in chat most of the time
tidal terrace
you sound more like a gamer than me
I don't sound like a gamer that plays marathon
cinder hare
I can Valorant Speak that's for sure
I try to keep my voice softer, more twinkish if I can but like, voice training 
sand sluice
I don't get called anything when I prox chat, only when I kill people
tidal terrace
unless I'm actively below average standard like sick or tired I just sound like a Vtuber
sand sluice
Natural Vtuber voice
the voice doesn't bother me but I stg I had somebody try to engagement bait me with the most annoying composure on the planet
they kept going "hi little rook!" like 57 times or some shit
cinder hare
You do sound like Uma EN VA lol
sand sluice
like someone looking at an animal in the zoo or something and I was like "nope, not even responding"
cinder hare
I dont know what an uma would sound like in English but I perceive you as an Uma
random vessel
she's tm opera o irl
neat nest
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone available for a third? Doing early game
tidal terrace
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone available for a third? Doing early game
I can join in like 30 min to 45
tidal terrace
she's tm opera o irl
I do genuinely sound like opera in the English dub which is not helped by the fact i look like opera
im the kind of person that does marathon inspired Makeup to wear to university
And I was a theater kid
im unfortunately Extremely Opera O coded
sand sluice
I do genuinely sound like opera in the English dub which is not helped by the fa...
me thinking "nah no way"
looks up opera "actually yeah that's pretty close from what I remember"
tidal terrace
*me thinking* "nah no way"
*looks up opera* "actually yeah that's pretty close f...
it's bad enough that my gf calls me opera
cinder hare
😭
neat nest
purple shield barter rolled through huh
cinder hare
I do genuinely sound like opera in the English dub which is not helped by the fa...
en dub of which?
im curious now
tidal terrace
en dub of which?
TM Opera O
tidal terrace
Maybe I hallucinated them
cinder hare
maaa
tidal terrace
<@&1474420814979010821> runnah anyone want to go do things in a single run
twin rain
yeah I'm down
cinder hare
alri
cinder hare
just @ me qwhen you done with street brawl carmen
im doing a nromal match rn
tidal terrace
oh good luck then
neat nest
<@&1474420814979010821> looking for 1
random vessel
Can be in after this street brawl
neat nest
how long are those usually?
neat nest
sweet
neat nest
Silly run
tidal terrace
a failed exfil on outpost will have you screaming that we should run it back
A successful exfil on outpost will have you hang up the account
random vessel
Can't end on a loss
lime sequoia
<@&1474420814979010821> need 2
tidal terrace
How it feels when you got a purple pack and shield with your misriah and lookout and head out only to get low-key slimed in intersection
placid oxide
Intersection is the bermuda triangle of dire marsh and I’d rather fight through algae ponds than that cursed place
slow rock
honestly I've died around bioresearch more times than on the rest of darsh combined
twin rain
algae ponds isnt as bad as it used to be now that everyone doesn't have that one quest at the same time anymore (still dangerous due to being accessible via basically any angle)
chilly pebble
bioresearch is cursed because there's so many quests that go there so people just instinctively go there now
patent thicket
indigo oriole
going the long way around intersection is a canon event for every player
sand sluice
there's a long way around intersection?
I just go through the 2 buildings and frag out
neat nest
Wrapping around through canal
sand sluice
But that takes so long tho
indigo oriole
what am i even doing on marsh that puts things on a timer; i'll gladly kill a few extra minutes to get somewhere safely
neat nest
Yeah there's only a couple of contracts which make you do it in a hurry
indigo oriole
my funny tech for success on all the dcon delivery missions is i will wait until the last ~5min or so on a map to do them
i'll go chill somewhere or take a hike
sand sluice
I just w key towards the objectives and dcons
Works out more often than not, usually when I take things slow I die more due to rats wanting to take it slower
Esp if you take a free kit
No reason not to w key unless you know for a fact someone is nearby
indigo oriole
because i want to actually finish the mission lmao
sometimes it does get a little old to die multiple times trying to do one contract and if 5-10 extra slow minutes helps me get it done
so be it
sand sluice
Yeh if youre dying a lot take it slower cause that means youre just getting unlucky or your pathing is on disadvantage
Like if you don't do the window wall jump from greenhouse into the first intersection building
Or you don't w key onto skyline if you get west gate spawn
indigo oriole
the window what
sand sluice
Yeah you can avoid going through the bottom door of first building by just using the outside vent by doing a wall jump off the slanted wall outside greenhouse
neat nest
The canal route also goes by a lot more loot which can make it worth it as well
sand sluice
Ye canal route you can go through ponds and then then the supply drop building and hit 2 med box/munitions spawns
Only issues with ponds is usually turrets and with canal it's just scramblers from maint to ai uplink or vice versa but that's more gonna come down to luck
I put it roughly same luck for intersection tho unless it's just an assassin
Cause assassins will just cloak through intersection
If you're thief you can grapple onto top of intersection buildings, not 100% about vandal doing it from greenhouse side tho
With intersection I think biggest concern is if someone is camping skyline/quarantine with sniper rifle
indigo oriole
if someones got a sniper it is what it is
sand sluice
Like maybe top of algae too but I don't see snipers sit up there too much, especially with thermals nerf
Dire marsh v silly
Weirdly enough tho I think I'm more comfortable with dire marsh over perimeter now
indigo oriole
i feel at ease in perimeter, i dont mind outpost (i have never been inside pinwheel), but dire marsh feels like where dreams go to die
neat nest
Outpost saves most of it's uneasiness for pinwheel but it gets rough in there
sand sluice
I hated dire marsh too and bounced around over time and after reaching endgame and feeling out solo queue a bit more it wasnt tooooo bad, mainly gotta be super mindful about free kits run never being "bad" because you risk nothing
I think gold salvage pains were the big thing but in totality even with as many cryo runs I did recently gold salvage is just not accessible for most people
I think once wipe happens there'll be a sorta week feeling for each map where depending on stage of wipe certain maps will feel easier/harder due to everyone at different gear and quest levels
Very excited for next season and night dire marsh
indigo oriole
i do hope night marsh is nice and spooky
i just dont have any interest in cryo or trying too hard for really good pinwheel runs, i just like playing marathon to be a little goofy
neat nest
Pinwheel is pretty doable while being a little goofy but Cryo is crazy intense
tawdry sequoia
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone for a few quick runs?
twin rain
yeah I can
mossy bridge
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone for a few quick runs?
sure
tawdry sequoia
in VC
mossy bridge
Pinwheel is pretty doable while being a little goofy but Cryo is crazy intense
I cannot deal with cryo because I do not know the map and I do not have the required gear (5000 grenades)
neat nest
You can get away with like 6-10 for learning the map ime
But lordy is it hard to learn
indigo oriole
🤔 grenades are in kind of a weird spot huh
neat nest
I think it has more to do with Cryo being mostly composed of confined spaces or 3rd party city
So grenades are Really Good there
indigo oriole
makes sense
its really low-commitment in a lot of ways to open a door and chuck in a surprise
neat nest
And there's lot of narrow rathole tunnels
sand sluice
cryo with grenade spam is a lot of "they are in that small corridor and this is easy damage"
if you have strong clearance and know rotations it's better to try to get them to waste a few before running away and rotating
slow rock
I think grenades are pretty powerful in general
patent thicket
I need to get better about remembering to use them.
mossy bridge
they are but it's worsened by throwing five jillion of them in a split second
slow rock
just changing the numbers on them would be kind of a lame nerf though
yeah it's the spamming that's bad
they ought to add some fuse timers to the grenades instead of messing with their damage, imo
neat nest
I think a short global cooldown (5-7 seconds?) would do it?
mossy bridge
make it so you can cook the nades too
placid oxide
Blessed enzyme replicator for purple shield barter
patent thicket
I was gonna do my first Cryo Archive run today but I decided to take a nap first and it turned into one of those naps that's way, way longer than you expect and you wake up with no HP and several status effects.
wild jetty
MARATHON
I LOVE MARATHON
I dont play it im just here for the art
Genuinely the best art style of an fps since... forever?
Bungie was so ballsy going for this complete overturn of traditional sci fi norms with the aggressively saturated and hypercorporate art
with a good dose of transhumanism and godhood
patent thicket
Bungie traditionally has good art direction.
They’re also really good at mythic worldbuilding. It’s what keeps me coming back to their games.
indigo oriole
the art is so nice
even the art direction in like... the store
its so nice
like a fashion magazine
patent thicket
They really did sell it as this dystopian corporate hellworld.
It makes me want to see what the main New Cascadia colony looks like.
I hope that'll be a map or series of maps in later seasons.
tidal terrace
like a fashion magazine
My mom thought that marathon was a Japanese fashion gun site and assumed I was ordering custom glocks to the house when she saw it for the first time. Which is kind of funny because one of her main pursuits is contemporary Japanese fashion
patent thicket
That's pretty funny.
cinder hare
I want a Marathon Magazine
If Marathon had some flavor of persistent world mode, god DAMN
patent thicket
You know what the weirdest part is for me, though? The fact that even with this vastly, vastly different style, I can still see echoes of the original Marathon in the game and its world.
I can't quite put my finger on it, but having played through the original game recently and playing this game now, they still feel related.
neat nest
Yeah it’s weird
patent thicket
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some runs? I'm not picky, I just have a contract to deliver salvage to DCON.
tall lily
sure, be on in a sec
tawdry sequoia
I can play a bit
lime sequoia
<@&1474420814979010821> looking for 2
patent thicket
I'll be hopping out after this run if you want to take my seat once I do.
lime sequoia
ok
tawdry sequoia
I should hop off as well tbh after this, so looking for 1 more I guess?
twin rain
I'll join in
random vessel
Cracking these bad boy open to exfil more often
tawdry sequoia
I'll join in
looks like our trio cleared so hopefully you have a full set
tall lily
ok I'm starting to figure out the general scope of this
less complex than I think it was at the start
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Folks want to group up?
twin rain
right on time (yeah)
placid oxide
I'll get a channel going
patent thicket
Some real clean runs though. Kind of wish I was recording.
tall lily
so in terms of vault allocation, I want to hoard stuff and use (and lose) gear?
since gear seems a lot lower value density than stuff
neat nest
Stuff meaning salvage?
neat nest
Yeah that’s about it
placid oxide
Shields and backpacks are generally what I keep the most of, at least until you are at the point you can comfortably buy backpacks.
neat nest
Yeah backpacks shields and salvage are so important
And eventually you get most of em from the armory
I need to grind lockdowns lol
placid oxide
Gold salvage is my main sticking point right now as well
cinder hare
so in terms of vault allocation, I want to hoard stuff and use (and lose) gear?
Generally, you shouldn't worry about losing a gun or whatnot
As long as you have money in reserves, and a small backup of backpacks and shields youre fine
Also heals
The rest just comes and goes
patent thicket
Thinking about the Rook we killed who was doing a Hillbilly Prospector Voice.
Yeehaw indeed, you strange person.
final onyx
that was Roachard mycopunk i think
tidal terrace
yltsi the sponsored kit payout
placid oxide
Anyone want to fill for a 3rd?
tidal terrace
so in terms of vault allocation, I want to hoard stuff and use (and lose) gear?
my recommendation as a newer player so far is that salvage and backpacks are worth more than credits
If you ever are out of weapons just find friends
Id fill for third but i just shut down for the night sorry....
neat nest
Yeah it's a little late for me
tall lily
oh also lmgs fuck
tidal terrace
oh also lmgs fuck
They're okay
tall lily
only 50-60 rounds in a belt is kinda meh but they put lead downrange like nothing else
tidal terrace
The problem is the rounds
neat nest
Now that they buffed the railguns pretty much everything feels at least decent
The wstr feels kinda bad but that's mostly me remembering how stupid good it was
tidal terrace
The problem is the rounds
Like early it's fine but by the end of a mission two slots of ammo is like
id rather have one slot of ammo than two, and two slots than three
neat nest
You survive cryo just to go right back to pinwheel
By coolguygames on twitter, seemingly not posted to his youtube
tidal terrace
rooks after you just kill them and don't mercy kit
Low-key the ideal is to leave with no ammo other than mips or heavy
maybe volt charges? But light ammo is free af
neat nest
Volt cells are really rare but all the volt cell weapons are really ammo efficient it's weird
twin rain
usually I find when I take in 3 volt cells I leave with 3 volt cells (the purple-blue ones not the white-red volt batteries or whatever they're called exactly)
tidal terrace
even like, four to five biomass is low-key worth dropping eighty light rounds
tidal terrace
usually I find when I take in 3 volt cells I leave with 3 volt cells (the purple...
same
And then they go to my volt cell pile
neat nest
I like to pack 6 volt batteries if I'm using a lot of volt weapons
tidal terrace
Or the like two that drain fast
The volt thrower
Personally I think my favourite light weapons are the overrun and ce tac sidearm
They're dirt cheap and they Work
sand sluice
blue overrun is about on par with green bully with the exception of range
overrun is definitely meant to be a cheap fill gun
neat nest
I think my favorite light ammo guns are the brrt and stryder
sand sluice
brrt is fine but I do not like the drrvish
neat nest
I have trouble finding brrts though
Actually I don't find stryders that often either I guess
For heavy it's prolly the demolition and twintap
The bully is good but I don't like it it just feels very meta safe
sand sluice
it might get nerfed eventually but hard to say given it's heavy ammo
twin rain
it's less good after the recent changes
sand sluice
like if it was light ammo I would def assume it would get nerfed
neat nest
It's still so good though
twin rain
more of a cqb monster
neat nest
Shit's a high damage laser out to like 30 meters
sand sluice
bully is one of the best weapons in the game IMO
twin rain
than a generalist thing
neat nest
And they're easy as hell to get so you can learn them really well
sand sluice
yeh
copperhead is slightly better but good luck finding a copperhead, and even if you do get a schema the copperhead is rly expensive
neat nest
#bungoplzflattentheweaponspawncurve
Yeah I have a copperhead schema but at 6k a pop why not just use my unlimited 1k or less bullies
sand sluice
yep exactly
you're very unlikely to deplete the armory stock of bullies in a day unless you're just getting really bad runs
but like I said the only thing that really makes bully "balanced" is it being heavy ammo
cause usec doesn't drop heavy but it's almost always not a factor cause other players bring in heavy ammo and you can just buy more stacks
neat nest
Yeah it burns heavy faster than I think any other gun
Cause the demolition has about 120 rpm or something
And hits like a baby sniper rifle per shot
oh my bad 225 rpm once spun up
But it also 4-5 taps runners iirc
tidal terrace
blue overrun is about on par with green bully with the exception of range
Main advantage of it for me is that it's basically free
a bully is also heavy ammo obviously
But ovverrun kit is like... 200 creds
sand sluice
yeh
overrun with green mods is more generalist
a lot of people struggle with the recoil on it but if you use it a bit, it should get easier to control
and it's so cheap you can just ditch it if something better shows up
neat nest
Yeah Overrun kinda fucks with the right recoil control mods and some practice
sand sluice
I ran it into cryo recently and did fine enough, main issue I ran into was magazine capacity
neat nest
Yeah it's a real problem for it
sand sluice
which at that point I kinda was like "well, at this point I should just pickup the retaliators off the floor"
neat nest
25 base just kinda sucks
neat nest
If it was like 30 or 35 base it would be a very strong albeit ammo burn heavy AR
lament pecan
Yeah Overrun kinda fucks with the right recoil control mods and some practice
its a bit of a shame though because i usually just end up slapping those same recoil mods on an M77 from the store...
neat nest
Yeah that's real
placid oxide
Yeah, the Overrun suffers from being the m77’s shitty little brother
Other than being able to take a scope it has zero advantages
neat nest
It technically has more DPS if you laser heads with it
Wait I am just wrong
They're basically the same
lament pecan
its especially a struggle because i really like the sturdy brace grip, but those arent fungible like the vertical grip.
neat nest
10,584 dpm vs 10,800
placid oxide
10,584 dpm vs 10,800
Yeah I’ll take that trade any day lol
lament pecan
its like...
sturdy brace (not in armory)
vigilant(?) (in armory but sig. worse recoil reduction)
the other two grips
neat nest
Yeah I’ll take that trade any day lol
Also this is in the M77's favor
While also being more controllable and slower firing
lament pecan
recoil reduction is just so valuable on ARs
neat nest
Yeah the Overrun is kinda low grade I can't defend it better lol
Good thing they're like 100 dollars
placid oxide
Yeah it’s there for an early AR option
lament pecan
one time i looted the new unique overrun out of a secure container
it served me well in beating somebody else in a trade at like 5m (they had a regular overrun)
placid oxide
The Impact is the one that I am most baffled by really
lament pecan
impact is suuuper weird
placid oxide
Unless I’m wildly misjudging it, it feels like it gets outclassed heavily by the m77
neat nest
It does WAY more damage than the M77
placid oxide
Can observe continental drift in the time it takes to shoulder and ADS though
neat nest
15,360 dpm vs 10,800 and it has a slightly better precision multiplier
lament pecan
i think its better for bots, esp with a circuit tracer
its like the demolition HMG of ARs
twin rain
yeah
placid oxide
Yeah I get that vibe