Channel's up
#Marathon
placid oxide
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone able to 3rd? Blade's having technical difficulties
craggy laurel
I can!
placid oxide
Channel's up!
indigo oriole
finally i can sleep tonight
cinder hare
hilarious fact, i make so many WSTRs stealing them off dead rooks that its just a default weapon for me now
cinder hare
whats up with rooks being hyperaggro suddenly
twin rain
they're hungry
slate field
Not sure. They're definitely a bit bolder recently
We had one Rook confidently try to 1v3 us while we were at exfil
It uh, didn't end well for him
And we were gonna just let him go
slate field
Rooks have always been evil
pale flare
you must give offerings to appease the Rook
patent thicket
It's kind of funny you say that because I've seen more chill Rooks lately than usual.
cinder hare
holy shit
my team all died in cryo but our assassin trio managed to win a 1v3 against a fake friendly team who shredded us
like DAYUM
indigo oriole
whats up with rooks being hyperaggro suddenly
i cant speak for all rooks but really i just have nothing to lose
fuck it i might get the world's luckiest grenade throw
sometimes i shoot at people at extracts just to give them a scare
indigo oriole
ah
lament pecan
I just went on an average "im going to solo queue dire marsh to maybe donate my kit to tau ceti iv because my vault is full or get some mida salvage" run and i just jumped some poor fuck on his way to a second lockdown and made out like a bandit with like 13k exfil value
suffering from success moment
btw im here to spread the good word about smoke nades. they're so fun with thermals or the V22/V75 or recond pings and are really useful for PvE
cinder hare
yeah cryo is `100% worth it
chilly pebble
You don't need the translation
mossy bridge
You do because it called dire marsh despair marsh
obsidian latch
(@VULFHAUSE_)
mossy bridge
placid oxide
I had no clue you could even get a claymore to attach to a bot
sand sluice
If you're lucky yeah
Can either sneak or just hit the assassin button
Unrelated to that
Sponsored kit queue is basically hunt showdown lite
mossy bridge
oh my god bruh
neat nest
I had no clue you could even get a claymore to attach to a bot
Bruuuh
sand sluice
It's hilarious because like
I've died to so many bs things in marathon that I'm just unfazed by that
neat nest
If that happened to me I’d have to take a break I’d be laughing too hard
sand sluice
Whether or not I take breaks from the game just depends
But tbf I still don't know if the game is right for me or not
Anyways sharing this so you can use this strat or be ready for spawn rushing in cryo
Speaking of which
placid oxide
I just want to get in to Cryo this weekend period
sand sluice
You can do a similarish strat on outpost with thief
sand sluice
I just want to get in to Cryo this weekend period
Like the queue or a specific thing in cryo?
placid oxide
Just getting in there, have a vault full of stuff
neat nest
Anyways sharing this so you can use this strat or be ready for spawn rushing in ...
Splitting to get monitors fast makes sense
I was pretty aware of how bad control is to hang out in but I haven’t learned the rotations to avoid it
sand sluice
Yeh
I just don't have any experience on the map cause no way to go into solo queue and I was busy getting bearings through ranked mode
Plus trying to figure out where my goals are and I think for me cryo would primarily be for vault clears until I can do compiler runs and then knocking out compiler for each shell
Assuming uhh
Bungie doesn't troll with their vagueposting and I don't need to actually get gold 1 or w/e
neat nest
Yeah I don’t know the map well and it makes me way worse at fighting haha
It’s frustrating losing fights I know I should be able to win since I’m off my game on that map but it’ll get better
sand sluice
I know I've lost a fight or two when I could have just used nades because I misunderstood the layout of the next room
But also I still havent like
fully gotten rid of gear pains
But tbf that's because in marathon you're hard limited to vault space + stock
So every time I lose a blue or purple shield it stings cause I only have so many I can burn before I gotta wait
But that's primarily because I'm not very good at the game so recovering from losses takes forever
Actually like uhhhhh
placid oxide
Vault space does feel like it limits my ability to hold on to equipment sometimes
neat nest
I was like “nah I think vault size is ok” until I got at least 1 of every purple salvage taking up space
placid oxide
I keep chems and emp but most everything else I just aggressively use since having space taken up by smokes feels weird
Yeah, salvage definitely has changed how I perceive the vault size
sand sluice
Yeah exactly
As a side note
Jfc I did not realize "not yours, just your turn" has been used in red pill shit like wtf I've been saying it as a mentality thing for extraction shooters for years 
oak glacier
oof
sand sluice
I'll just stick to that other thing I said (if I can remember it)
It was something like
"Have preferred loadouts not guns" or something
I could also do the meme thing with for honor ledges via "the loot taketh and the loot giveth"
tawdry sequoia
I think that's generally an extraction shooter thing, Hunt had Hunt Taketh as well
some days the bayou just says fuck you, and that's alright, we'll get 'em next time
sand sluice
I think I can see it more applicable in hunt cause like
Issue with tarkov doing it is tarkov was always just tarkov being tarkov
Hence why something bad happening is just "getting tarkov'd"
tawdry sequoia
hmm, the gear being less of a wall in Hunt makes it a lot easier to just go c'est la vie about getting got, yeah
also you can't strip a fight clean of valuables, you will by nature leave most everyone's stuff there
patent thicket
“We’ll get ‘em next time.” is engraved on the server racks the Runners are stored in.
chilly pebble
I was like “nah I think vault size is ok” until I got at least 1 of every purple...
An idea I saw somewhere that I really liked was basically being able to make your own kits to compact your vault
so like you set up a build and then click a button to turn it into a 2x2 kit
sand sluice
they could just do the tarkov thing and let us get containers somehow for the true inventory management greebles
chilly pebble
can't edit it further but saves a lot of space
sand sluice
(tbf this is me being selfish)
chilly pebble
I honestly just wish a third of your inventory wasn't locked to salvage
neat nest
An idea I saw somewhere that I really liked was basically being able to make you...
Oh shit I actually love that
I don’t care for a lot of suggestions in the vault’s vein but that’s a neat one
mossy bridge
still thinking of the idea of making DCONs able to send out a single stack of items for a cost
sand sluice
so like you set up a build and then click a button to turn it into a 2x2 kit
yeah this idea is goated
mossy bridge
maybe an item ala conveyance request or matter fixatives
patent thicket
I hope I get the Arachne kit rolled today. It’s been nothing but CyAc all week.
Actually, I take that back. It was CyAc when I was running free kits earlier in the week.
mossy bridge
i love money
patent thicket
mossy bridge
all the arachne skins got except assassin
yippie
also first scorch warden kill
also once again done with the pass
sand sluice
Pass?
neat nest
Hell yeah
mossy bridge
many kity
im down to just the vip upgrades for cyac which are all money
17000 total
upgraded my vault too
patent thicket
I’m probably gonna do a bunch of Rook stuff tonight to rebuild my arsenal.
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for Cryo?
mossy bridge
Later
I have an 02 key to use
For now I am going to the pub
For birthday (2 days late) dinner
I think every runner could’ve been named after a corvid
Destroyer, raven
Thief, magpie
Recon was already blackbird
Rook of course
Assassin, crow
Triage is the hard one I can only really think of bluebird
destroyer is raven because ravens are huge and also armored core
magpies are thieves
crows are smart and sneaky
bluebird because medical symbols tend to be blue and he’s the odd one out in terms of shell abilities
as are bluebirds in terms of appearance
ivory laurel
What corvid is Vandal?
patent thicket
Bluebirds aren’t corvids, you’re thinking of bluejays.
chilly pebble
What corvid is Vandal?
Australian magpie specifically :v
slate field
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for Cryo?
ye
sand sluice
At work otherwise I would
chilly pebble
you have to be aggressive but patient
slate field
<@&1474420814979010821> Looking for a third to do sponsor kit runs
mossy bridge
My inventory is full as hell but fuck it why not
Just give me a bit gotta look after my sister
placid oxide
Already filled up, sorry Atlas
tawdry sequoia
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone for a few runs?
slate field
Eyo
tawdry sequoia
in VC
mossy bridge
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone for a few runs?
sure
tawdry sequoia
@neat nest did you figure out in the end how to avoid the thing where your cursor resets whenever someone types in chat?
neat nest
<@255907872993574923> did you figure out in the end how to avoid the thing where...
I didn’t sorry
cinder hare
downed a team as rook, but my rook buddy died too fast to mercy me 😭
chilly pebble
casual cryo lobby clear
Sadly didn't get to do our vault but we came out with more vault keys than we had before :v
Found the last two teams in a stalemate shit talking each other on prox lmao
mossy bridge
<@&1474420814979010821> need a third, we're doing unsanctioned hostilities 5/5 so get ready for darsh
neat nest
I can hop on in a few
mossy bridge
oki
sand sluice
good
if they're gonna nerf knife, no reason shotguns don't get nerfed as well
granted my guess is misriah will now be the go-to shotgun
and can prob still 2 tap everything
oak glacier
i mean, it might get the same treatment
but also the misriah is way rarer
rooks just print wstrs as long as they get a matter fixative
sand sluice
ye, takes up more slots too, and has slower fire rate
cinder hare
HOLY FUCKING RUN
full team gold'd cuz we SLAYED a gold team instantly though a spawn rush via the ladder
i got a WSTR down on them, they pushed us through the ladder, we deleted them
placid oxide
I’ve seen a lot of folks talking about what to do with grenade spam as well, interested if they do anything there.
cinder hare
my opinion is add a pullout animation and inspect cuz its cool
oak glacier
with how comms have been going
i do hope if they decide to not change one thing they communicate that too
cinder hare
that should alleviate the problem to some extent
neat nest
I think a small CD between throws would be fine
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone interested in getting a second group together?
neat nest
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone interested in getting a second group together?
we might have a slot opening up in a sec
mossy bridge
they do in fact have a slot opening
placid oxide
let me know
mossy bridge
cause i must sleep
goodnight cyan goodnight zul goodnight peaches goodnight marathon discord channel goodnight pilot net
chilly pebble
nerfing the wster before I even get it on rook as is customary
chilly pebble
I just realized something about the upcoming wster changes, it means the blue/purple shielded groups will continue bringing it, it still one magging rooks, while the rooks can no longer do the same so there's no reason to go into wster range as rook
tawdry sequoia
you can still switch to knife and then kill, but yeah
chilly pebble
Switching to knife after you get downed by a counter wster?
non rooks can also bring in stack overflow on it allowing 3 shots
so effectively this is a rook nerf
lament pecan
so has anybody else had issues with the algae ponds lockdown
i just had the easiest time going maintenance > quarantine but then the lockdown cache just wouldnt pop after killing the last wave of bots
sand sluice
yes
you have to be very mindful where the bots spawn in and how many
I believe one will wander off somewhere and it's usually that spawn
sand sluice
lockdowns are really hit or miss
I wouldn't do them unless your run was already dead anyways
lament pecan
it was a sponsored marsh run so we were kinda just dicking around
really i thought id be staying away from lockdowns in sponsored marsh but i actually find them more fun there
neat nest
and can prob still 2 tap everything
It can but the fire rate is a lot slower than the wstr
I'm really happy for the wstr nerf
It was centralizing CQB really hard and thanks to revives you have to do CQB in Marathon
slate field
nerfing the wster before I even get it on rook as is customary
Oh shit I just realized I just got the WSTR on Rook
God fuckin dammit XD
neat nest
I'm also curious if it'll put people low enough for 2 shots and a quick melee
Which is still really fast
slate field
Don't make me use the quick melee
I hate the quick melee in this game
I actually have the button I'd usually reserve for quick melee to just switch to the knife
neat nest
I love the Marathon 1 jab animation it gives some of the guns
I am hoping for more weapon tweaks for cqb though
lament pecan
I'm also curious if it'll put people low enough for 2 shots and a quick melee
sucker punch is about to be, like, useful, maybe
neat nest
Oh shit yeah maybe
lament pecan
(you can still just run stack overflow and 3-tap people)
neat nest
Yeah I'm liking it on it's own I just hope they tweak some other weapons to make the close quarters menu a little more open
lament pecan
i really feel like the misriah is just not good enough at its niche for how infrequently i get my hands on it
neat nest
Big agree
I've seen like 2 of them ever
And IME it's no stronger than the wstr and actually probably weaker
(Also full disclosure I have been advocating for a wstr damage nerf since the MCTT lol)
lament pecan
i remember seeing it for the first time in the server slam thinking "wow this thing is probably hard to use well"
no...
neat nest
It was a demon in the MCTT
They actually nerfed it since then but only handling and ... someother else minor
lament pecan
range, i believe
neat nest
Also jfc they took a hammer to the Impact since the MCTT
It does not feel very good to me now
lament pecan
lowkey... i wish we still had blue thermals.
not necessarily for everything, and i dont care if theyre garbage
lament pecan
but i just like running smokes and thermals
neat nest
Maybe sniper thermals should stay purple
lament pecan
hard agree
neat nest
But like pistol and SMG thermals were fine imo
lament pecan
the pistol thermals are so damn tiny lmao
slate field
Yeah, the pistol thermals are borderline useless for their intended purpose
lament pecan
i actually got a kill with a thermal magnum in smokes today
neat nest
Yeah they're fun for use with smokes and as specialist anti-ghost and assassin stuff
Man I'm stoked for the wstr nerf haha
Damn I am a little salty about the impact nerfs
It felt really good in the MCTT
I also liked how much more random the weapon drops were in it but I think that was specifically for rapid testing
twin rain
I like the impact as-is, it's one of my favourite guns (tho I was a high impact/360rpm AR slut in destiny so I'm biased). I had not touched it in the tests tho, so I don't know what high place it fell from
neat nest
It was also, broadly, OP in the MCTT
twin rain
ah, so the handling. yeah that does a lot for the gunfeel/snappiness
neat nest
So I can only be illegitimately salty
"Damn I miss my generically top 1 gun in the game"
"Felt really good to use the best gun"
patent thicket
Although I think most of my kills have been with either the Retaliator or the Volt Thrower.
cosmic flame
the actual drawtime on the har is quite fast but the ads.time is worse than an lmg and an lmg doesnt need a recoil mod to use without the gun kicking your jaw into the top of your skull
i played a lot of outlaw kc hakke auto rifle back in destiny but jesus
the har was no hakke
lament pecan
bad news for everyone wanting to do conveyance request into drone wing
you have to check dorms now
twin rain
(misread that as "check dms". uesc has one simple trick to get into drone wing but you gotta invest in this bitcoin first)
neat nest
Buy my drone conveyance coin
lament pecan
crazy outpost run tonight where we grabbed the flight control red card, broke into destroyed wing in <5 minutes, looted the command wing, took out a team that kindly donated 3 more red cards and the key for the locked orientation room, so we looted the pinnacle room AND the key room...
i was mostly focused on grabbing purple salvage but our thief made out with like 40k
ivory laurel
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some early morning runs?
cinder hare
1 am
ivory laurel
10 am
split apex
8:30pm
patent thicket
6:53AM
mossy bridge
11:53 AM
sand sluice
25:799 AM
patent thicket
Ah, you’re trapped in the Warp. Good luck.
neat nest
Wh-
placid oxide
Knew the Sekiguchi kit was too strong
celest forum
Please don't tell me people are saying that
I've just been sitting with my- what's the heavy ammo ar called again
And the bully
twin rain
(the Impact)
celest forum
If I don't have one I have the other
Thank you
I am a simple goblin I pick my favorite gun based on look and sound
This has led me to heavy ammo supremacy
Traxus has placed a thirty billion credit bounty on my head to recoup my debts
patent thicket
The V22’s homing shots are helpful but it’s offset with having kind of doodoo damage output. That’s how I feel anyway.
celest forum
Ye
patent thicket
I mostly like it because it helps spot cloaked assassins.
twin rain
I feel it's overheat "clip" is the main limiting factor
where the fire rate falls off a cliff
celest forum
Honestly I use it to smear ghosts when I'm raiding hauler for materials
Because it helps with their shitty little boost strafe move
I want a shitty boost strafe move
patent thicket
That’s what Destroyer has.
patent thicket
I’ve been trying to practice that more.
It helps a lot when you’re not fighting in Bendy Hallway #52.
celest forum
I should try it
I like Recon but we have zero (0) movement techs as far as I can tell
twin rain
it's true
chilly pebble
The volt thrower is good for high mobility(dash, double jump, grappling hook) because it lets you land shots when the opponent has a hard time to
patent thicket
That’s generally how I get kills with it. (And why I’m practicing using my movement tech in combat instead of just using it to cross gaps.)
Charging people with my shield up tends to make them poop their pants and my team can usually capitalize on it even if I die. It’s a little too risky for me to call it super useful though.
It is funny when it works, though.
chilly pebble
ooh nice
patent thicket
Man, Rook is really a good way to recenter yourself in this game.
celest forum
Rook is occasionally the most fun I have yeah
It's really funny when you get adopted by a runner trio
patent thicket
"friend :)"
celest forum
I love the rook friendly voices yeah
I need to sneak around and try to find situations I can run up and mercy kit someone like a defective medic bot
patent thicket
I think the Mercy Kit is a good idea, but it needs a little work.
Unless I'm totally misunderstanding how it works, it really feels like all risk, no reward.
celest forum
It's pretty much a trust exercise
Unless I'm missing something you just go "hey get up buddy" and hope they don't choke slam you instantly
I wonder if you can use it to revive a backpack tho as long as the player is online
chilly pebble
being able to use it to reset the timer on bags would be interesting tech
patent thicket
Imagine looking at your loadout after being eliminated and then you see a notification that a Rook is reviving you.
ivory laurel
My first proper Rook run ended with me almost exfiling with an enemy team (was 1 sec short) and then exfiling with another Rook
patent thicket
I think about the Rook who approached me and two other people in here going "Hey, I'll put my gun away! I just want to exfil." and we let him, but one of us dropped him with a WSTR after he got in the circle.
You know. So he wouldn't get cheeky and drop a claymore.
"You can exfil with us, but we're gonna break your knees first."
celest forum
https://tenor.com/view/rogue-one-k2so-please-do-not-resist-dont-resist-star-wars...
Downing someone and getting them back up as another rook downs then again
patent thicket
I was just cursed with the idea of a Rook's hologram mask displaying the Lancer grinning face from Deltarune.
patent thicket
I'd like some alternate skins for Rook, yeah.
mossy bridge
https://tenor.com/view/rogue-one-k2so-please-do-not-resist-dont-resist-star-wars...
kaytoo my beloved
celest forum
The best
patent thicket
A droid of his model is a major NPC in the Star Wars tabletop campaign I'm running.
celest forum
Actually my favorite SW character
mossy bridge
one of the best things about didneywars
celest forum
What I would do to be built as terribly as that
mossy bridge
them and shore troopers
celest forum
Just comedically constructed
mossy bridge
I think in terms of droids nothing can beat HK47
but K2 definitely beats out the rest
IG88 is good too
patent thicket
I would like more customization in general, but eh.
celest forum
True
But with how much the aesthetic of the game scratches an itch for me I don't mind too terribly
They all look oh so very cool
patent thicket
Yeah that’s why it’s not really something I can say with my whole chest, you know?
celest forum
Felt
"I'm not saying this because I think I could do better I just wanna make something that's more me" yearning for customization
I feel you
"I would like to see what I could make with a Lego box full of costume pieces designed by you"
patent thicket
Something like Halo 3.
celest forum
Ah yeah that could be fun
mossy bridge
i liked the concept art when people were still on the docket instead of runners
glad to see it still lives in the UESC uniforms
and recon kinda
celest forum
I haven't seen this concept art
mossy bridge
grenade spam needs to go the way of the dodo already
absolute culture shock trying to understand how people enjoy cryo like this
I'm understanding why Tarkov makes it so each grenade is a single slot and take time to ready
mossy bridge
the map is so uninformative
patent thicket
That's kind of the point of Cryo Archive, isn't it? That it's obtuse and difficult to navigate?
patent thicket
I'd say that captures the spirit of the original game pretty well. It takes place almost entirely within the Marathon and the levels are all pretty labyrinthine.
placid oxide
Cryo is confusing but calling it bad is kinda wild.
placid oxide
Oh, okay now I get your meaning lol
The in-game map for the level is intend cheeks.
twin rain
I don't think there's a good way to do it without like a metroid-3d rotatable thing
placid oxide
For sure
twin rain
I'm ok with it being a knowledge check of sorts. like the underground areas don't show on any of the other maps either
(tho it's definitely a magnitude more severe on cryo)
placid oxide
I think its intended for sure, they want you disoriented.
mossy bridge
How am I gonna get the knowledge ig I have to sacrifice my vault every time
twin rain
yeah
patent thicket
Man, the maps in the original Marathon really did run the gamut between really cool, "I see what you were going for but this ain't it." to "End my suffering."
indigo oriole
navigate my maze
new marathon map idea: solo only, you spawn into an empty hallway. The Minotaur Is Also Here.
cinder hare
i have a funny gameplay loop now
get minimum needed for cryo -> get as many valuables as you can -> exfil, somehow with 20k -> GOLD MOD
oak glacier
whats your minimum viable loadout to exfil out of cryo
mossy bridge
i'd like to know too
cinder hare
whats your minimum viable loadout to exfil out of cryo
WSTR + blue bag/shield + gun of choice (i like a green LMG) + 1 self + heals
indigo oriole
where do blue shields come from
oak glacier
nucal shop i assume
cinder hare
i just skin people, take their loot, sell it in exchange for blue shield
oak glacier
money can be exchanged for goods and services
cinder hare
its usually 2-3 outpost runs, about 30 minutes in total, depends on how the rooks feelin' that day
indigo oriole
i do need to try and successfully get out of outpost more
cinder hare
most of my gameplay is rook -> rush pinwheel -> steal shit -> CRYO WAHOO
then i save up 24k per day, give or take, meds are the hardest part
but you can just like, idfk, buy an entire armory of gold weapons
indigo oriole
i need to watch some guides ive yet to actually be inside the pinwheel
cinder hare
only like, 3 of these were gained on the field
most of them are from questing rewards or the shop
back to rookin' for blue bags
oak glacier
yeah i know how to grind money that part is not the issue :3
mostly wandered about your baseline cryo loadout cause i havent really touched cryo that much
indigo oriole
wstr is so funny
i love that little cannon
i wish i could put big googly eyes on it
cinder hare
stole a thief's loadout in pinwheel lol
they mustve been pissed
and then thats how i get my loadouts
issue was i dint have fair space for a WSTR
@oak glacier so this build is roughly what i like for Cryo
- any gun of your choice, SMG / AR / LMG being the best choices
- a WSTR (the nerf will change this, might become SMG + PR or the like in the future)
- blue shields, backpack
- enhanced ammo crates! bring just enough to fuel your guns for the first few rooms, then pop an enhanced crate when you upgrade though the arms lockers
- Optional: Cores + Implants
- exactly 1 self-res (its super common in cryo, 2 if you're pvp hungry)
- at least 2 stacks of both heals
- 2 sets of nades cuz nade meta, bubble is good but its a mida rank 5 item so B A H
oak glacier
pr?
cinder hare
precision rifle
oak glacier
ah
chilly pebble
Honestly I don't see the wster changing since everyone runs 3 shots on it anyway
so it'll still onetap purples
cinder hare
i mean im assuming a minimum rage build
so barely modded
no stack overflow if you dont have that
etc etc etc
chilly pebble
you can also run the +melee on hit which is real common for the tap tap punch
cinder hare
you can, i have maxed out arachne though so its not exceedingly necessary for me
chilly pebble
This is why the proposed nerf annoys me, it changes little if anything for non rooks
oak glacier
id rather not speculate on a nerf thats not even here yet
and
its not like they wont change it again if its still an issue
chilly pebble
I wish they'd just kill bubble shields to fix the problem at its source
slow rock
earlier today I unlocked the thing I never knew I wanted: the ability to put gaius's face on my guns
cinder hare
Honestly I want the bubble to stay
Its fun and fine
I wouldn't mind if it was a shell ability instead
But I want the bubble to stay in the game somehow
slow rock
taking my gaius oshikatsu to see all of pinwheel
cinder hare
It would be really funny to have much bigger inventories but a weight limit and make the bubble kinda really heavy
neat nest
This is why the proposed nerf annoys me, it changes little if anything for non r...
It’s still pretty substantial because if you need 3 shots that’s a ~.45 second ttk
chilly pebble
It definitely has a use as an anti sniper tool, but they could just turn it into more of an r6 siege ADS for that, where it blocks all shots outside of a set aoe(say, double? triple? the current aoe?)
cinder hare
Not the kinda thing bungie would want or do but itd be funny
neat nest
Bubble shield just needs better hitreg I think
It has weird tankiness because some shots just don’t seem to damage it
cinder hare
R6 ADS is nades and big projectiles only
chilly pebble
I know, I'm just saying mechanically/aesthetically
I just only ever see bubble shields being used for shotgun dancing
cinder hare
I would like an ADS anti-nade option
neat nest
I also seen them used a fair amount for safe revives at longer range
tawdry sequoia
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone for a few runs?
chilly pebble
eh sure
but yeah doesn't help that my main goal right now is trying to get the rook wster
cinder hare
I also seen them used a fair amount for safe revives at longer range
This is my favorite purpose for a bubble
placid oxide
I also seen them used a fair amount for safe revives at longer range
This is what I really like them for a lot more. Chuck a bubble and help your friend.
chilly pebble
but yeah making the bubbles shoot out sniper shots/long range shots, while now also popping grenades in the area would be a nice rework
mossy bridge
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone for a few runs?
sure
tawdry sequoia
in vc
mossy bridge
Bubble would be 500 times more fair if you could not shoot out of it
neat nest
You can’t
chilly pebble
I mean you can't
mossy bridge
you can't???
cinder hare
Yeah you cant
placid oxide
Nope lol
neat nest
It even slows down allies of the dropper when they pass through it to make dancing the edge less valid
chilly pebble
that's why I call it shotgun dancing, constantly swapping in and out of the shield
neat nest
I think if I was gonna nerf them I’d
- make the sphere smaller by 10% or so so placement matters more and they’re less weird in confined spaces
- make them time out after ~20 seconds
chilly pebble
they last like, more than a minute
placid oxide
They last a long time
mossy bridge
crazy
neat nest
They do but I think it’s like 150 seconds or something
cinder hare
I like the idea that their shield HP degrades over time
mossy bridge
CRAZY
neat nest
Usually the UESC just eventually destroy them
placid oxide
Like functionally the full duration of a fight unless things are stalemated
neat nest
But I think they’re healthier if you can stall them
cinder hare
I like the idea that their shield HP degrades over time
This exists in a few games and I like this
neat nest
I wouldn’t mind if they just lost health to effectively have a short duration either yeah
So there’s still a point in shooting them instead of just waiting it out
cinder hare
Like, incentivize shooting it!
neat nest
I think the issue is mostly that they’re still tough enough to make cracking them hard and you don’t really have any choice but to shotgun dance
indigo oriole
i cant recall with some of the changes, do they still take more damage from volts
neat nest
Nope but they’re also 33% more fragile
placid oxide
i cant recall with some of the changes, do they still take more damage from volt...
Nope
cinder hare
Also after I've been playing for a while I feel like Perimeter feels the best to PvP in
placid oxide
I kinda like the idea of them lasting substantially less time
Give time to rez, maybe pop a heal
neat nest
Oh I’d also like them to be a different color if they’re friendly
placid oxide
Slightly green-tinged
neat nest
Yeah that’d be good
placid oxide
I don’t wish that on anyone
Getting screamed at by the entire community and whichever change you make it will piss off as many people as it appeases.
cinder hare
I'm crazy enough
indigo oriole
Oh I’d also like them to be a different color if they’re friendly
neon pink time
neat nest
Colorblind friendly!
indigo oriole
lets get funky with the colors
neat nest
I think it’s important to know alignment because you can’t damage allied bubble shields
twin rain
new cosmetic item territory
neat nest
Which is honestly a 2 edged sword
placid oxide
Happens where you get pushed out of your bubble and then what little counter-play could exist is gone?
mossy bridge
i cant recall with some of the changes, do they still take more damage from volt...
that got changed to just be more vulnerable to all damage
indigo oriole
i get why, but i always like little edges to different weapons
chilly pebble
Happens where you get pushed out of your bubble and then what little counter-pla...
Both sides just stay on the edge of the bubble though
going further into the bubble means losing instant cover
neat nest
Yeah but you can also magdump the bubble (weapon dependent) to remove it from play if it’s not friendly
You need an lmg or volt thrower or something usually
(Volt thrower is good at even without volt vuln because you can’t miss and it hits like a truck with no headshot multiplier and has a very deep magazine)
cinder hare
It'd be cool if shields were slightly more common and volts did increased damage vs all shields
tawdry sequoia
welp, if anyone else wants to play, I'm in VC 😅
slate field
My collection grows
cinder hare
My collection grows
Somehow I never touched a single gold salvage ever
placid oxide
I have an alien alloy and I don’t know where it came from
Like I do not remember getting it from a faction reward, or finding it in the zone. Best guess I have is anomaly?
placid oxide
That’s what I’m assuming. Did manage to get my last biolens seed for my blue shields from the shop upgrade, thank god.
twin rain
<@&1474420814979010821> squad up?
neat nest
I can hop on after dinner but that’s a few runs away
twin rain
I'll be around all night, I can wait
neat nest
I'll be around all night, I can wait
I’m around now if you’re still up for it
twin rain
yeah lets roll
tawdry sequoia
I can do a couple if you need a third
tawdry sequoia
just grabbing some water
patent thicket
tawdry sequoia
to the triage whose gold demolisher mod I stole with pickpocket drone while he was running to pinwheel, I thank you for your sacrifice 🙏
neat nest
It's funny I keep going into Cryo and eating shit and then I go into any other map and feel dangerous
It's like a training chamber
twin rain
hyperbolic time swamp
neat nest
Did have a tragic fight on Swamp too yeah
patent thicket
On the one hand, I don’t think I’m getting into Cryo this weekend.
On the other hand, it’s because I’ve been spending time with my wife instead of gaming.
cinder hare
i think i should learn to play hyperaggro hyperkill
yeah this is working well
things i need to learn:
speed claying even FASTER
cinder hare
my rook gameplay has gone absolutely insane now that the second i see someone in a bad position i rush and dont stop until theyre dead
cinder hare
experience with purple shields: doesnt fucking matter if you catch em while they looting
issue: there's 3 of them, so maybe WSTR the first then stab the other
or claymore, if you're smart
issue: i dont have a WSTR yet
cinder hare
yeah but idc about the no 2 taps vs blue+
i can just quick melee since my base dmg is like 70 rn
sand sluice
rook base you can not 1 combo purple
sand sluice
ye
cinder hare
gah
cinder hare
god doing more pvp makes me realize lots of my failures come from being too passive
cinder hare
like i can just solo team wipe as a rook by playing super aggressively if i isolate it into a set of 1v1s
sand sluice
hmm
I actually just realized that marathon is probably the best trios extraction shooter
cinder hare
i hope for an in-game LFG
cinder hare
mmm
sand sluice
like
Idk if bungie is aware but their game is the most pvp leaning given how fence rep works in tarkov
sand sluice
fence rep
basically in tarkov
not having a high enough fence rep
-locks you out of certain endings
-makes it so all npcs will attack you (not just bosses)
cinder hare
icic
sand sluice
you lose fence rep by killing player scavs, bosses, or npc scavs
you gain it by killing traitor scavs (as a scav) or exfilling with a scav (co-op extract) as a pmc
cinder hare
icic
ivory laurel
Or paying the scav car to take you out, no?
sand sluice
that only works the first time IIRC
as in, only gives you the rep the first time
tbf you can also gain rep from just extracting as a scav but it's very very little
ivory laurel
The cars and coop give less for each time taken, per map, and reset weekly I think
sand sluice
it does look like they give less each time taken but I'm not seeing where they reset weekly
ivory laurel
They probs removed that
tawdry sequoia
you did it, you're John Marton now
sand sluice
I just wanted to do it season 1 while the event was going on cause omg sekiguchi faction such a grind
curious if I should go for 10 mil credits
chilly pebble
I do find it kinda funny how my goals keep getting nerfed just before getting them
I'm almost at knife damage 3? knife nerf, now I'm almost at the wster? wster nerf
sand sluice
I mean
The good news is that it resets every 3 months
I am curious to see how marathon stabilizes tho
Might have already been posted cause article 6 days old
chilly pebble
game will give me literally any yellow except salvage
patent thicket
Yeehaw
placid oxide
One of the best prestige guns in the game though
ivory laurel
Only Prestige stuff I have touched is 1 backpack and the Prestige Brrt unique
final onyx
the ominous loud sound
we decided to exfil because mare kept disconnecting
disconnected in exfil
???
cinder hare
i like how you can just buy golds out of the shop
patent thicket
That’s a surprisingly low price.
cinder hare
its 24k
i also like rooks defaulting to friendly assumption cuz it means free loot
it feels so cruel but like, its free fuckin' loot man
and if you're lucky you'll find a kitted mofo with purples
who also dies fast af
indigo oriole
it feels so cruel but like, its free fuckin' loot man
mossy bridge
Only Prestige stuff I have touched is 1 backpack and the Prestige Brrt unique
all my golds have been quest rewards except for the thief drone ping core i stole from a team
patent thicket
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some runs?
tawdry sequoia
I'm game
patent thicket
I'll set a channel up, lemme know when you're ready.
twin rain
I'm making dinner, might be able to hop on after atlas is done
mossy bridge
Atlas#0790
neat nest
<@&1474420814979010821> people up for some runs this evening?
cinder hare
yeah gimme 15
tawdry sequoia
yeah 'Im in
neat nest
I'll hop on in a second starting laundry
cinder hare
i made a channel
neat nest
yeah 'Im in
Still available?
tawdry sequoia
neat nest
whoag
patent thicket
Good haul.
patent thicket
Yeah basically.
tawdry sequoia
hey Nucal subsidized my shields, they're a good un'
also my main source for delicious life giving capri suns
patent thicket
Yeah, NuCal is my favorite sponsor by far.
neat nest
same
Forthright and the stuff they give me is nice
I wish I was better at finding biolens seeds though lol
sand sluice
Ngl I kinda want that destroyer skin in the shop
But also
What if they release cooler skins later 
lament pecan
had a bad scuffle in outpost that our third barely pulled us out of, and we head up into pinwheel after the team that nearly killed us (parasitism 1/5) and killed a lone recon, and nearly died to two rooks bumrushing us. then we push a little further and see the rest of the team dead and several more dead rooks lying around them. im not sure who i felt more sorry for. 🫡 i got some nice backpacks out of it tho
patent thicket
I need to get more backpacks. I’m totally out of greens and I think I have three blues left.
neat nest
Greens are only 500 credits it might just be worth buying them
lament pecan
i just don't get why there's a daily limit on them...
neat nest
There is?
ivory laurel
Artificial scarcity is pretty much the norm for extraction shooters
8 greens, 4 blues and 2 purple a reset
lament pecan
its 2 purples???? jfc
ivory laurel
This is why Schemas are great: I have access to 13 green health bags, 3 green reload bags, and 9 blu reload bags. All for the same prices as CyAc store
lament pecan
yeah i just wish i found schemas for anything other than random blue head implants
do schemas reset daily or are they one-time?
ivory laurel
Schemas give you X purchases of the item it is for, and once you bought that many you need to find a new schema
lament pecan
👍
ivory laurel
Guns are often 3x. I think bags are 4x
tawdry sequoia
cyac rank up rewards also tend to contain backpacks
if you have any stored up or some contracts to level it that can help
otherwise...rook runs?
lament pecan
yeah rook is great
tawdry sequoia
get a fixative, bam, backpack
neat nest
Haha what the fuck does this mean Durandal
tawdry sequoia
is this ARG stuff? 
sand sluice
Artificial scarcity is pretty much the norm for extraction shooters
How does Arc Raiders do it?
I know tarkov there is no scarcity once you get flea market unlocked (but tarkov has a whole bunch of other time gates tbf)
neat nest
It’s (hopefully) not it’s just in Cryo
tawdry sequoia
Arc is heavily crafting focused, so your main gating is how much stuff you have to make and level up gear
I think the storefronts are a mix of limited inventories with refreshes and uncapped ones
but it has been a while
mossy bridge
How does Arc Raiders do it?
I know tarkov there is no scarcity once you get fle...
the actual scarcity is "found in raid"
im never gonna get arachne 4 man this shit sucks
i can only get to 18/20 with biomata cores and resin and then it's all purple salvage
i can feasily get 19/20 with enhanced railgun, cutthroat.exe, and knife fight++ but the 20th has to be purple
i have 13 enzyme replicators and 2 reflex coils, as well as 16 nodes and 8 resin
i guess i could do the above 3 and hard strike but like
in total to get rook wstr i need 9 reflex coils 9 enzyme replicators 24 resin and 16 nodes
semi related i just noticed that rook has UESC tattooed on his knuckles
funny
neat nest
I think it would be funny to allow Rooks into Cryo
mossy bridge
it would
neat nest
I think they should I’d love to rook run Cryo to learn the layout better
Sure you basically can’t leave without final exfil and it destroys the security economy
tawdry sequoia
maybe a raid with a version of rooks that works like a dark souls covenant
trying to stop player teams instead of looting per se
though you'd probably have players banding to game the system
but a mode where you play mercenary to UESC would be neat
mossy bridge
i kinda hope we get uesc contracts next season
patent thicket
Let the rats onto the ship.
mossy bridge
scraw
cinder hare
Let the rats onto the ship.
I'm going to wipe a gold team solo as rook if it's Cryo
patent thicket
How?
sand sluice
You just shoot them primarily
sand sluice
the actual scarcity is "found in raid"
Yeah but they made the requirements really lax now that scav counts as fir
cinder hare
How?
A gold team has the same HP as a purple team
I can shred 1 purple so I can shred 3
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone down for some runs?
mossy bridge
sure
chrome rapids
Im down
placid oxide
Anyone up to fill for a third?
tawdry sequoia
in a little bit?
placid oxide
Just hit us up!
tawdry sequoia
sorry, work calls 
oak glacier
its probably some kind of cursed nucal plant that turned invasive
neat nest
Yeah
patent thicket
Almost certainly.
tawdry sequoia
@placid oxide still around? 😅
slate field
Yo
chilly pebble
It’s like bioengineering or something
One of the first nucal(? Might be seki?) quests is talking about sparkleaf printers
patent thicket
This is why I remind myself to do sponsored runs for the first couple of runs to warm up.
chilly pebble
...This has to be a joke
going up the ranks in ranked is a choice
you can just stay and farm bronze 3 forever
cinder hare
yeah you can drop your holotag which is funny stuff
patent thicket
huh?
cinder hare
you can just drop it and exfil with 0 rank gain or loss lol
so if you're cracked, just spend 500 to steal free purple loot
patent thicket
Oh, I thought that was a response to what I said and I was confused.
sand sluice
You dont even have to do that
As long as you take in bronze to gold holotags you stay in the low stakes queue
cinder hare
ranked seriously shouldnt work that way
patent thicket
Yeah, I feel like the whole point of a ranked mode is to move up the ladder.
tawdry sequoia
that's nonsense, yeah, you should just die on exfil attempt without a tag
cinder hare
that's nonsense, yeah, you should just die on exfil attempt without a tag
nah, not as long as thief-stealing exists
cinder hare
just make it untouchable if not killed
tawdry sequoia
I'm assuming that's more complicated
cinder hare
thief shouldnt be able to touch it
cinder hare
I'm assuming that's more complicated
i mean you cant steal people's shields
tawdry sequoia
because it's equipped
it'd require making a ranked tag equipment slot I imagine to make it unstealable
cinder hare
yeah just treat it as an "equipped item"
tawdry sequoia
I'm just suggesting the least work demanding solution
cinder hare
i think it already is gray rarity
tawdry sequoia
I know it is for bronze, I just wasn't sure if it was for every other one
cinder hare
but seriously i feel like thief should only be allowed to touch valuables, mods, etc
tawdry sequoia
I'm fine with it, honestly, it creates a decision point
patent thicket
Bingus steals it.
tawdry sequoia
are you going to try and shoot down the drone to prevent it yoinking your bubble shields, rezzes, etc., opening yourself up to the the rest of the squad picking you, or do you try and use that opportunity to catch a pick from the other team while their thief is busy
cinder hare
im not a fan of it esp cuz its already a strong recon tool
neat nest
By cybermunday on twitter
placid oxide
Destroyer is a badger, right?
twin rain
yeah destroyer gives bear energy to me (tho badger is valid)
someone's a lizard and I cant decide who
placid oxide
Assassin is a gecko, perhaps?
cinder hare
yeah destroyer gives bear energy to me (tho badger is valid)
Destroyer gives bear energy (gay)
twin rain
trueeee
twin rain
holyyyyy
cosmic flame
AINT NO WAY
cinder hare
Crazy fucking skin
LMAO
Honestly what makes this even better is it's meant for the vandal WSTR rush
frail mist
cinder hare
It would be daddy in that case
cinder hare
Honestly what makes this even better is it's meant for the vandal WSTR rush
Either the writing is directed at the MIPs or whoever gives you the achromatic skin is a mommy
cinder hare
So between Handler Oni and toxic yuri Worm, which one is it
cinder hare
writing affirmations for your bullets so they aim assist more
Me writing "good girl" on my Volt Cells so they deal even more thermal damage cuz they're melting at the gay
oak glacier
oak glacier
depends on the bullet
cinder hare
MIPs are like, big transfer energy
Transfem stupid phone
Heavy rounds give me like, bear energy
oak glacier
does that make light ammo twinks?
cinder hare
Yeah
Volt batts feel like the kinda girl to have the worst relationships
Volt cells are the girl they're having the worst relationship ever with
oak glacier
if the bullets are yaoi, the volts are yuri
woeful tundra
cinder hare
You get me
cinder hare
random rook game
random vessel
@woven jewel anyone around for some runs
cinder hare
solo'd a trio as rook, then died to sudden 3rd party 😭
patent thicket
<@&1474420814979010821> I've got time for one or two runs before bed if anyone's up for some random contracts.
sand sluice
ranked seriously shouldnt work that way
Yeah the way ranked works is confusing.
It's why I only took it bronze tags because that way if I get a toxic teammate who threw it cost less points to lose
plus it let me leave if a teammate got unlucky when we were on the way to the extract as collectively the team needed less credit value overall
which I did once because dude took a bit too long to loot and didn't start leaving before another team caught up and they instantly downed him
lament pecan
found a rook in dire marsh that really didnt want to fight, was just following us around and picking up our scraps. only player we saw all game. I gave him a biolens seed and let him exfil with us. 
mossy bridge
yup anotha @vulfhause_ banger
cosmic flame
genuinely bungled a 20k 1v3 because I just couldn't stop swapping weapons bro
I might actually need to become a buddhist
tawdry sequoia
embrace impermanence
all loot is fleeting
your purples are simply returning to the wheel
chilly pebble
You guys get purples?
tawdry sequoia
be as the rook, one with emptiness, full with claymores
mossy bridge
your purples are simply returning to the wheel
the pinwheel, that is
neat nest
These aren’t very complete pack notes I feel
placid oxide
No that seems to match up. I think the WSTR nerf and matchmaking changes are coming in a separate server-side patch?
It feels wonky that now only green meds stack to 3
sand sluice
that is a good point
blue stacks to 6
gray stacks to 6
green stacks to 3
maybe they updated green too but forgot to mention it in the patch notes
placid oxide
Could be!
sand sluice
I def like getting more meds and more meds dropping
makes it so triage doesn't feel as necessary when running free kits
placid oxide
Oh for sure, especially in sponsered
placid oxide
The freed up space would make them more attractive to run
patent thicket
Definitely.
sand sluice
currently taking a break from marathon while I try to figure out what I wanna do next
either cryo or get the shell masteries I think
ivory laurel
Join me in getting the 20m up kill with vandal
sand sluice
Join me in getting the 20m up kill with vandal
I've been thinking about ways to do that
I think the best way would be to play vandal, go to drone wing on round start on outpost with sniper rifles (edit: I meant destroyed wing)
then just shoot down from as high as possible towards the red master key spawn ontop of that building
ivory laurel
I was thinkin' DMarsh, sit ontop of Maintenance or Ponds and shoot at anyone that moves close enough
sand sluice
see the issue with those IMO is people know to look above for those spots
but most people don't think about drone wing because who takes drone wing these days?
and they're too busy assuming people would rush them with shotguns I feel
ivory laurel
Unsure where you mean us to sit? Inside the wing?
sand sluice
right outside the red gate on the upper level
you can look out way below at the red master key ontop of that building
one sec lemme pull up the map
ivory laurel
YOu mean destroyed wing not Drone ?
ivory laurel
YOu understand my confusion then
ivory laurel
sand sluice
you can maybe shoot from ontop of processing down onto the drone wing once it's lowered
neat nest
That’s the find my 7 high points runner one right?
placid oxide
yep
placid oxide
Oh see solo it felt more manageable becase folks aren't looking for a fight quite as much
Like I straight up said hello to folks as I was booking by them
Now 5 looks like it would need a group
neat nest
Ah fair, I found it helped to have the contract stacked up so you could split up to cover more ground without the stamina debuff
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some runs?
slate field
I might be later
tawdry sequoia
I need to make dinner, and then after, yeah
mossy bridge
I can join
cinder hare
mossy bridge
@tawdry sequoia ready?
tawdry sequoia
yyeah lemme hop on
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> need to do outpost quest
neat nest
Which one?
chilly pebble
could probably do that
cinder hare
Which one?
drone wing
neat nest
sharp plover
PHM is set in the near-future (non-specific in the book, 2032 in the movie), so it does actually work
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> need a third
chilly pebble
can't decide which one to get
cinder hare
can't decide which one to get
knife 3
mossy bridge
<@&1474420814979010821> need a third
i can join now
i closed the game before i saw
besides it's best to reboot after a while
slate field
<@&1474420814979010821> Anybody free to do some Dire Marsh sponsored runs?
tawdry sequoia
if we get a third, I can run a few
twin rain
I can run in a little bit, maybe 15-20m
sand sluice
I can join
slate field
Made a VC
sand sluice
waiting to see if hesitant is here since I said I can join 2nd lol
slate field
First come, first serve I say
sand sluice
gotcha
patent thicket
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some random stuff? I'm just grinding NuCaloric rep.
twin rain
yeah gimme a sec
cinder hare
welcome to hell :3
tidal terrace
im already in hell
patent thicket
Join the Tau Ceti IV Runner's Union.
tidal terrace
iits called "graphic design for GIS data analysis"
neat nest
Marton marton marton
tidal terrace
i may not play tonight because of that and the pressure sickness
but tomorrow.... tomorrow i run
random vessel
@woven jewel anyone down for some runs
oak glacier
wrong @
placid oxide
I can
neat nest
I love the DeWalt Stryder
neat nest
Close enough at least haha
patent thicket
You also have the Ryobi V11.
cosmic flame
😭
neat nest
lmfaooo
twin rain
MIDA Multi Toolbox
patent thicket
[Home Depot commercial type beat]
cinder hare
lament pecan
Milwaukee
yk i got this skin today and it would be so cool if i saw the twin tap anywhere besides traxus barters 😭
mossy bridge
minetharakov raiders: 1896
neat nest
yk i got this skin today and it would be so cool if i saw the twin tap anywhere ...
Real
It’s not a bad gun but it shouldn’t be as rare as it is
Oh nice the new patch also got rid of the cryo spawn rushes
tawdry sequoia
sweet
I'll be done with my priority contracts this week so I guess for the rest of the season I'll be doing cryo
and cryo accessories
placid oxide
Oh nice the new patch also got rid of the cryo spawn rushes
Oh shit really? How so?
chilly pebble
guessing they boarded up the rush routes
tawdry sequoia
wasn't it some vents between the spawns