I don't mind there being a more valid reason for thief steal other than lootgoblin/annoying me
#Marathon
tawdry sequoia
chilly pebble
Yeah it feels like they pushed her buffs back until they could figure out what exactly to do with her
I just wish they told us
chilly pebble
I don't mind there being a more valid reason for thief steal other than lootgobl...
It was already great for stealing heals
neat nest
Same
sand sluice
Eh I'm okay with them being more silent on what they're working on
neat nest
I imagine more stuff for Vandal is just later
And I think Vandal was in less of a bad place than Recon
tawdry sequoia
they communicated clear changes for the recon and didn't for the vandal, that was clear enough for me to suggest that the vandal fix isn't coming yet
cinder hare
I just want vandal to have normal slide rn
wraith vector
Optional megaslide would be nice tbh
chilly pebble
Left us drift the slide
neat nest
I think slide canceling would make Vandal a menace which is good
oak glacier
theres a chance there will be vandal changes this season, it just probably will be in its own patch and not a big mid season like the recon changes now
cinder hare
My experience so far with ranked vandal is she's surprisingly strong
chilly pebble
I still like the idea of also giving vandal a single walljump
oak glacier
but theres fully the chance its gonna be a s2 thing too
tawdry sequoia
I think they are probably trying to not to be too apex-y with the vandal
ivory laurel
Vandal the Randal, DK of Perimeter
chilly pebble
the doublejump isn't too useful most of the time I feel
cinder hare
Its stupid useful ime
tawdry sequoia
high ground wins fights
cinder hare
God if you ever run triple jump in cryo...
ivory laurel
Let Double jump is great
oak glacier
isnt her double jump her most useful bit lol?
chilly pebble
Being able to get more vertical height by putting a walljump in there too would let them get to places thief can more often
cinder hare
Yeah it is
neat nest
I think it’s really good, there’s a lot of unique roof-to-roof routing and no cooldown roof access rules
cinder hare
Vandal is just like, the highest skill floor plus ceiling of all the shells
ivory laurel
I think they should make pre charging Vandal's blast more obvious
cinder hare
Since she's so positioning and anti positioning
tawdry sequoia
is there any tech for slide into jump
neat nest
I think Vandals issues are just:
- slide feels janky and uncontrollable
- heat costs are really high with that big heat cap
- arm cannon is weak
Double jump and prime are very good
sand sluice
They probably do not want to contest apex on making apex
https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/s/3Gwh8QXtpc
Reddit
oak glacier
i think rather than giving her a fully normal slide
make the mega slide cancellable early
placid oxide
That’s the biggest change I want really
woeful tundra
the doublejump isn't too useful most of the time I feel
It's the only reason I play her
It's crazy strong
placid oxide
Just let us cancel slide at any point in the animation
woeful tundra
Maybe the strongest single runner ability in the game
neat nest
Make mega slide cost half as much heat but you pay heat to put the brakes on and end it early
chilly pebble
I guess I'm just more used to the absurd positions I can get to with thief
woeful tundra
Thief can't compare to vandal jump mobility and flank angles
I play with thieves all the time
ivory laurel
Thief hook has a long ass CD compared to jump
oak glacier
Make mega slide cost half as much heat but you pay heat to put the brakes on and...
big brain, let you spend a ramping heat cost to keep the slide going even further
woeful tundra
You need to spend a very important cooldown to go to one place and stay there
neat nest
You can get to most of the same places as thief but the routine is weird or you need the arm blaster
And for everything else there’s no cooldown
woeful tundra
I am constantly going places my team has to stop me from going cause they can't follow me
I'm like a cat
chilly pebble
There's so many weird greeblies you can stick to with the thief grapple it's kinda funny
sand sluice
Her vertical movement is the best reason to play her
ivory laurel
I am constantly going places my team has to stop me from going cause they can't ...
Same
chilly pebble
just angles you'd never think to look
sand sluice
Thief's grapple goes on a cooldown
neat nest
Also for an indirect Vandal buff: Nerfs to Destroyer parries and Thruster
chilly pebble
I'm also just missing my pilot movement from titanfall :v
sand sluice
Also for an indirect Vandal buff: Nerfs to Destroyer parries and Thruster
I certainly hope they wouldn't
neat nest
Since Destroyer is the main competitor
cinder hare
Ngl it's kinda funny how Vandal is treated as like, the strongest in outdoor maps by some players
ivory laurel
Vandal blast dmg buff would be neat
neat nest
I certainly hope they wouldn't
Thruster heat cost up by 9% and the cancel window on the shield lengthened so you can’t flicker it as much
neat nest
cinder hare
I think most people like roughly where destroyer is at atm
neat nest
Yeah I just mean the stuff which is in today’s notes
cinder hare
I kinda wish they nerfed WSTR
chilly pebble
I just want to be able to football tackle someone with the shield like the uesc shielders can
lemme absolutely yeet em
sand sluice
Yeah the nerfs are reasonable
sand sluice
I kinda wish they nerfed WSTR
I would find shotgun nerfs hilarious because if they did I feel like they would just nerf knife again
cinder hare
Really funny thing, they added more spawns to the destroyed wing buttons
chilly pebble
I wish they'd nerf the snipers more directly like damage for example
neat nest
I think just adding a little more delay to it would be a fine nerf
cinder hare
I think devs want their damage to be high but make the repeek a lot harder
neat nest
The wstr is more or less unreactable if you read the situation wrong
chilly pebble
Being able to just get randomly oneshot never feels good
cinder hare
I've been advocating for reducing the RoF by a lot
sand sluice
I wish they'd nerf the snipers more directly like damage for example
Damage idk cause you can reliably ego peek them with other guns in most situations
neat nest
A lot would make it bad
Just a bit
Like .1 seconds
Gives people about 200 ms of reaction to do something
chilly pebble
Snipers currently(though less thermals does help this a bit) don't really have counterplay if used as an opener
chilly pebble
"move from cover to cover" doesn't help much when the marsh is 90% open space :v
sand sluice
Snipers currently(though less thermals does help this a bit) don't really have c...
IIRC current counter play is bubble ye
cinder hare
Since the ttk is 300 something ms
chilly pebble
Bubble needs to you know a sniper exists
cinder hare
500 would make it so it's just below the average
cinder hare
Bubble needs to you know a sniper exists
If you're constantly scanning the map you'll notice them yeah
neat nest
#needthat
sand sluice
Ye. Or just take purple shield
chilly pebble
I can't even buy blues yet
neat nest
"move from cover to cover" doesn't help much when the marsh is 90% open space :v
For marsh just take the defilades and anomaly there’s like 2-3 places all the snipers shoot from
sand sluice
Ye
neat nest
(It’s mostly maintenance roof and ponds roof)
cinder hare
Way too expensive imo
sand sluice
Thankfully blues can be reasonably earned
chilly pebble
I've had some devious sniper perches on marsh with my thief at times
neat nest
Yeah just stack up neurochems and wait for NuCal to barter blue shields
chilly pebble
cause if you get high enough up a minijammer might as well be invis
sand sluice
Good luck getting enough gold salvage for purple shields though 😭 (why barter is the best work arounrd)
chilly pebble
speaking of which I'm surprised they didn't nerf the vandal infinite jammer trick
while getting the right implants can be a bit of a pain, it's incredibly strong for a green core
chilly pebble
Yeah it's just something I'm used to most devs nerfing
much like how they went "okay you can only put one claymore on drones" rather than no claymores on drones anymore :v
sand sluice
Most of the more crazy stuff doesn't get patched super quickly
Like you can climb into escape vent from command wing still
cinder hare
I was hoping for a weight mechanic and making claymores heavy so you could bring 2 but it'd be really slowly
chilly pebble
Like the claymore drone is now a gameplay mechanic rather than something maybe unintended
sand sluice
Well, I assume you still can, would have to go check it
Plus you can't get into command wing, you can just sit there to jump people
oak glacier
i remember in closed beta you could slide into the destroyed wing barriers and just phase through them
was fun exploring pinwheel with basically noone there
neat nest
That was hilarious
sand sluice
I'm sad cause I still can't figure out how to jump up as rook despite it being possible
mossy bridge
Read the patch notes
All really good changes
I’m so glad they didn’t get rid of the claymore drones
Just made it a bit more sane
mossy bridge
patent thicket
bingus
mossy bridge
amory
ivory laurel
Not a fan of the new implant look
patent thicket
Cool skull.
oak glacier
i like that the implants are distinct now
im not sure im in love with the new look tho yeah
ivory laurel
The new weapon mod look is good tho
mossy bridge
kity
sand sluice
durandal stole my armory
Left you with the ranked holotags tho so you can queue into rank
chilly pebble
amory <:think:824540124352086016>
it's where you use your calvage
mossy bridge
chilly pebble
My top 3 are probably destroyer, tirage, vandal
I... never realized destroyer had lips lmao
mossy bridge
one of the main draws of his cyber red skin is covering those up
chilly pebble
"cover them up slut"
chilly pebble
I also like that they apparently made it retroactive
mossy bridge
yes that's why i have the vandal and thief ones
chilly pebble
which weapons in the arachne free kit again
I don't know how often I got it with how much I've had traxus
genuinely wouldn't be wrong to say I've had traxus 1/4 to 1/3 of the days I've had the game
games about to do a funny I feel it
oh it hasn't reset yet
neat nest
I... never realized destroyer had lips lmao
Gotta be able to drink thos burgs
neat nest
which weapons in the arachne free kit again
Retaliator
chilly pebble
ohgod the new implant icons
patent thicket
"cover them up slut"
How else is he supposed to drink his NuCaloric Number 187 Drinkable Cheeseburger?
chilly pebble
boofed
patent thicket
What do the new implant icons look like?
chilly pebble
I prefer it too, it just takes a bit of getting used to
huh, gantry's priority cutscene reset for me
and traxus
chips also changed
neat nest
Legs
wraith vector
Slightly silly
tawdry sequoia
yeah that's a bit goofy
shoulda just gone staight for a sole and toes imprint, smdh
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some runs?
ivory laurel
I feeel like I can do a Marthon
oak glacier
placid oxide
Not being able to get prestige salvage hurts but I'm just glad to have a plcae to MAYBE get biolense seeds
placid oxide
Could also be there's another box at superior rarity that gives you a chance at prestige too
That just rotates in intermittently
oak glacier
true!
neat nest
Thanks NuCaloric you’re the best
neat nest
https://tenor.com/view/signalis-elster-replikas-gif-27083529
Elster never wore anything so low cut haha
patent thicket
If the WEAVEworms produce the Shell with the clothes on… are the clothes part of the body? Are we running around naked?
chilly pebble
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some runs?
sure
chilly pebble
If the WEAVEworms produce the Shell with the clothes on… are the clothes part of...
we're running around naked
placid oxide
Had to step away for a quick work call, will ping when back
chilly pebble
it's like warframes, it might look like we have clothes but the clothes are made from the same thing as our flesh
neat nest
If the WEAVEworms produce the Shell with the clothes on… are the clothes part of...
I think it’s a mix
Like Thief’s jacket and such seem like clothes
But I’m not sure what’s under them
placid oxide
They just switch from "print biosynthetic skin" to "print silk strands"
neat nest
There’s lore bits on what biological systems the shells have though
chilly pebble
actually, it might be actual clothes
chilly pebble
I just remembered recon has the crossed out UESC thing
placid oxide
Yeah they have printed organs and such right?
neat nest
They have digestive and circulatory and respiratory systems and ATP and such
They’re synthetic but VERY biomimicking I think
patent thicket
You can drink the Cheeseburger but you probably shouldn’t.
placid oxide
No one should
chilly pebble
You can drink the Cheeseburger but you probably shouldn’t.
Ending [F] from nier automata
placid oxide
@chilly pebble Ready if you are
chilly pebble
ye
chilly pebble
actually speaking of shelf stable, I wonder how long a shell lasts
mossy bridge
we do reconnaissance now statement
chilly pebble
due to its manufacturing it doesn't really feel repairable
patent thicket
actually speaking of shelf stable, I wonder how long a shell lasts
Between one and thirty minutes.
mossy bridge
I feel like they’d last as long as anything else if maintained properly and with a stable connection
placid oxide
Got a room set up down below Nal
neat nest
They seem to last a while not on TCIV yeah
chilly pebble
huh I don't see a room
neat nest
But the TCIV ones are reduced spec because they’re dead/inert in 30 minutes
mossy bridge
when you know it’s some The Anomaly bullshit but you can’t prove it
chilly pebble
Are the rooms set to hidden by default now or something
placid oxide
Should be public now
chilly pebble
hm still don't see it
sand sluice
Ahh yes, the meme post
neat nest
The kneejerk reaction is driving me bonkers it’s fine
The important thing is it doesn’t fuckin go head legs torso now
sand sluice
I find it funny lel
Like this feels like you walk into sekiguchi store and the moth has a funny little hat that says "build-a-bear" but bear is crossed out with a marker and replaced with the word, "shell"
mossy bridge
they're fine honestly
sand sluice
Yeah tbh I'm more interested in the rep boosters
Purple salvage and below has always been lootable given enough time
twin rain
I do prefer the old implant visuals, but I get that being able to tell them apart at a glance (or at a distance, or on smaller monitors/tvs) has been a common complaint for some time now.
sand sluice
Gold salvage is the only thing that feels impossible to get
twin rain
So I accept the changes with the understanding that I will get used to it in time, like a lot of marathons visual sauce
patent thicket
I’m here for the shitposting about it, I didn’t even think that people were making earnest complaints.
twin rain
Yah I hope not.
sand sluice
I think the icons goofy but nothing terrible
tawdry sequoia
Yeah, I don't love it, but aside from it looking goofy on first blush I'm gonna give it some time to see
neat nest
I think it’s really helpful for loose implants
When they’re not in containers
Since it’s basically impossible to ID them quickly if they wind up faced away from you
mossy bridge
I do prefer the old implant visuals, but I get that being able to tell them apar...
i wish they'd just color code them for what slot it is and then give them unique icons
slate field
Now if only they can make chips and reinforced shields identifiable at a glance
Couldn't tell you how many times I've been excited to see a particular chip shape only for it to be some garbage like Ornithologist
patent thicket
slate field
I don't think anyone intentionally uses that chip, even for the stat boost
I'm not even 100% sure how it's supposed to work
mossy bridge
tbf if you have show value in run on you can see if a shield is reinforced or not from the price difference
protector v1 is 150
reinforced shields v1 is 180
twin rain
i wish they'd just color code them for what slot it is and then give them unique...
Isn't that how it is? They're red/orange/green for head/body/legs
slate field
Show value in run is bugged for me, everything shows up as 0 credits by default
mossy bridge
i mean yeah
it is
but in addition to that
they add unique icons for the different implants
twin rain
You mean like hurting hands vs helping hands etc?
mossy bridge
yeah
slate field
That would be nice
twin rain
Hmm. I think that's feasible but maybe not anytime soon. They'd have to go back to the blocky shapes for more room to work with imo. (Legs is pretty cramped atm)
slate field
They'd have to make it fairly unobtrusive to avoid more visual clutter
twin rain
Sorta like the destiny gun perk icons. It's doable.
slate field
Ye
chilly pebble
Just a psa, either there's a cheat to use the drone elevator or there's multiple cards that spawn now
cause I had the key on me but someone snuck in through drone
cinder hare
??????
cinder hare
Just a psa, either there's a cheat to use the drone elevator or there's multiple...
you can always just call it back down
theres a button to do that
chilly pebble
No we didn't use it at all in the first place
cinder hare
ah
chilly pebble
we went in through main entrance
neat nest
There being 2 would be so exciting
chilly pebble
It was a thief, can you hit the elevator button with the drone?
cinder hare
i thought these would get purple'd or something
chilly pebble
might have somehow got the drone up there
neat nest
i thought these would get purple'd or something
No they’re just super strong legacy scopes
twin rain
Yeah, it's more of a tradeoff now: thermals? Or good stats?
As the patch notes has that particular scope also giving negative aim assist and range now too.
slate field
Still wish there was a toggle for thermals, and that they still worked while you're cloaked
The stat nerf is a good approach, I'm not sure nerfing the thermal range even further was necessary though
sand sluice
It was a thief, can you hit the elevator button with the drone?
I wouldn't know but if I had to guess.
Yes. But it requires them getting in somehow already
My guess is you could probably use normal pinwheel entrance, fly the drone over, hit the button, then go up it
cinder hare
I just want some kind of anti-fog
sand sluice
I'm actually kind of okay with heavier fog in the maps especially with thermal nerfs
Anything to move away from lobby wiping being the optimal play
neat nest
Same I think most of the bad feels are when it’s really foggy and there could be a thermal sniper 1 waying you
sand sluice
Ye it's my main issue with dire marsh outside of just purple teams speed blitzing
But that's just it, if they have to get closer I can have an easier time fighting back
slate field
You know what I would like to see? Map weather rotation/prediction so you know what the maps are gonna look like before you hop into a match and can prepare accordingly
I actually really enjoy the ambience of rain or fog on Perimeter and Dire Marsh
(Also makes stealth easier, ofc)
Would also help to make the world feel slightly more immersive. Like ONI is giving me a sitrep before each run
placid oxide
Yeah the fog with thermals being nerfed is great to me
Having to constantly wonder “Am I going to get dinked from nowhere with no counter play” makes the fog not fun
mossy bridge
You know what I would like to see? Map weather rotation/prediction so you know w...
same
Tarkov does this for time of day and weather
so for example you could choose between 11:00 AM and clear or 21:00 PM and rainy on Customs
obsidian latch
patent thicket
I prefer PBR.
placid oxide
Activating seek and destroy makes destroyer say it with the “Bud-Weis-er” cadence of the commercial
neat nest
very weird visual glitch last night
tawdry sequoia
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone for some runs?
neat nest
I'm down after my Lancer game which is about to start so it'll be a while
tawdry sequoia
that's probably too late for me unfortunately
patent thicket
I'm down if we can get a third.
placid oxide
Also available here in 10 or so
Or if we can get a second group going since I think that's 3 already
tawdry sequoia
Nalesh is in for a full Perimeter run, so if you wanna hop in with us
neat nest
New Zeus be like
placid oxide
Just what you expect to find in a folio
neat nest
sand sluice
why is the game so laggy today wth
tawdry sequoia
new patch blues
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone for some continued runs?
twin rain
Might be able to join in an hour lmao
placid oxide
Nah lol
twin rain
a shell so good they killed it twice
cinder hare
really good rook run
god this is amazing
like, imagine the game telling you, "pssst, play around and rat and you might just get your hands on some gold items"
neat nest
Oh shit nice
twin rain
how many tokens are you getting on average?
cinder hare
how many tokens are you getting on average?
id say about 20~25 per match
twin rain
hm! that's quite a bit more than I thought. very lucrative
cinder hare
mind, only on an exfil
twin rain
even still
ivory laurel
Hovering the CyAc commendations tells how you get them. A rook exfiling with a full 3stack gets 20 (5 for being rook and 5 for each hostile you exfil with to a max of 15)
obsidian latch
How often does the free kit switch?
late geyser
Man i hope duos come back soon
tawdry sequoia
there is duo queue in the new free kit mode
iirc
not sure if it's in the same pool as trios
ivory laurel
How often does the free kit switch?
I think daily, but it's not weighted so you can get the same kit for a week straight
tawdry sequoia
yeah it's the daily armory refresh, but we don't really see how it's determined and you absolutely get the same one multiple times in a row
sand sluice
extracted with anomaly for once
now I gotta choose between rez speed, knife leech, or prime recovery cooldown 
funnily enough this was one of the fastest times I shredded a runner because I had destroyer ult ready and a runner was ontop of maint and took a potshot at me with their volley
they were on the other side peeking so figured I might be able to move up and the individual unfortunately jumped onto myside up top and I was like "well, this might be one of the most free kills I've gotten" and sure enough I lasered them and sent them ragdolling with destroyer ult
sand sluice
It's marton
Also I kinda want this event to be permanent
It's giving me some decent tarkov scav run vibes instead of just murder hobo everything in sight
Like sure sometimes it still happens
tawdry sequoia
looking forward to trying it
was running some spon kit yesterday after mostly running properly kitted for a while and it was fun scrounging for guns and upgrades
chilly pebble
extracted with anomaly for once
I really need to start running anomaly
Had a chunky dire rook run though, grabbed a thermal sniper scope too
oak glacier
chilly pebble
another 50 credit salvage yet again nothing but greys
really does not seem worth doing
oak glacier
im gonna save up 75 for the key templates
and maybe wait and see if it rolls in a better crate?
tawdry sequoia
How much rep is the rep packs?
sand sluice
500
Very solid
3 per stock rotation
Also ngl
I think they like
Stealth buffed how common the outland is compared to the longshot
I've seen like 5-6 and 1 Longshot recently
Also also
Longshot 7k
Outland schema is 3k
tawdry sequoia
damn
chilly pebble
You should be able to dap up another rook to make each other show up like a teammate
tawdry sequoia
slap an IFF tag on them
oak glacier
would be fun if mercy kit marked you as temporary friendly so you couldnt just rez people to shoot them down
obsidian latch
I don’t think I extracted successfully once tonight but I finally get my Arachne quest done so I’m happy
placid oxide
Stealth buffed how common the outland is compared to the longshot
I also noticed this, found multiple outlands in arms lockers on Outpost and it had me doing double-takes
neat nest
I think they swapped how common the Outland and Longshot are yeah
I uh
I might be leaving my legacy scope thermal longshot in the vault for a while
sand sluice
I only have the purple thermal sights
sand sluice
I might be leaving my legacy scope thermal longshot in the vault for a while
Ya got 1 and a half months! Then the great worm in the stars will come and sluuuurp all the vaults
neat nest
Ya got 1 and a half months! Then the great worm in the stars will come and sluuu...
I wanna wait a while to jumpscare really impress the person who takes it off my corpse
sand sluice
Speaking of losing things
I had this...thing
I forgot wtf it was called
It sold for 250 credits
I think it was a trinket or something, basically it said every time I exfil with it I would get more carri commendations
I do not know what I did not take a screenshot of this 
neat nest
I think the patch notes mentioned that
tawdry sequoia
yeah I saw someone else post a trinket on reddit that gave self-rez on exfil
neat nest
They added a CARRI trinket which gives points on every exfil
tawdry sequoia
they might have tweaked the trinket drop rate
sand sluice
Yeah it was a blue one or something
neat nest
And unlike most trinkets it’s only deluxe
sand sluice
yeah I saw someone else post a trinket on reddit that gave self-rez on exfil
Ye this one was contraband (red)
Which is funny because it's a 10k trinket
That generates self rez on exfil
tawdry sequoia
yeah, it's kind of a poor return on investment
patent thicket
In-universe, I think the reset is going to be the debt payment on our shells coming due.
tawdry sequoia
10k risk for 800 store value
if you're supremely confident, good for you, but I'd probably just sell it
chilly pebble
yeah like literally just grab a stack or two of grey valueables
indigo oriole
hows the new patch
placid oxide
Seems good so far
The CARRI system was nice from the bit of it I got to use. Extra salvage or faction rep is a good baseline.
indigo oriole
yeah i havent gotten to touch it yet but yall are cool and active and i trust the channel opinions here
patent thicket
It gives you another avenue for getting salvage you need, too.
placid oxide
Nice for folks like myself who don’t level a particular faction as much for some reason. I’ve got Seki at level 13 and everyone else VIP or close because I just didn’t do their contract line as much.
indigo oriole
lmao yeah all my stuff is just at 10~13 rn
placid oxide
(I play this game too much)
indigo oriole
i just die a lot and dont complete contracts LOL
tawdry sequoia
I'm decently leveled on a few, but my MIDA and Traxus is low teens
placid oxide
Mida and Seki are the two I have left for priority contracts
Mostly because their contract lines feel more tedious to do than the others
neat nest
I think MIDA’s are fine but lordy Seki is repetitive
placid oxide
Go from Bio-research to Quarantine, but this time make sure you bring a chitin sample with you
neat nest
Yeah the whole line is just “remember going between bio research and quarantine? What if it was iteratively more painful?”
placid oxide
I could move through intersection blindfolded by this point
mossy bridge
my nucal is at 27 and my cyac is 25
twin rain
I'm a little surprised how most people have nucal higher than cyac (myself included). I expected the opposite to occur. Not that it's a problem, but it's interesting to me.
tawdry sequoia
I think cyac having no priority line means it falls behind
and nucal has pretty good looting based xp triggers
supply drops, tick nest, med cabinets
placid oxide
Plus you’re getting rep for NuCal through other folks’ contracts as well
Assuming you’re playing trios
patent thicket
Me exfiltrating with no ammo, one gun and a box of keepsakes.
mossy bridge
no idea, i didnt even know you could get above vip 1
twin rain
probably no limit so you can still get rank up rewards and rep doesn't get deprecated
sand sluice
I think cyac having no priority line means it falls behind
Cyac and Arachne are the two easiest to level outside of contracts.
If you're spamming contracts then some people will have other factions higher.
Sekiguchi is the one that will be the slowest due to only 1 set of prio contracts and having the most specific in-game rep event (anomaly)
twin rain
speaking of charter, most of you might know by know but the arachne skins were awarded retroactively
tawdry sequoia
yeah, I have assassin and thief
twin rain
it's sick
mossy bridge
Charter going to make that guy the pope of skinning dudes
Archbishop of Fleet Street
mossy bridge
Thinking about the tweet of someone saying they should add a giant fly to algae ponds
patent thicket
I have an Arachne paid sponsor kit sitting in my inventory muttering to me like the Green Goblin mask.
wintry shuttle
Thinking about the tweet of someone saying they should add a giant fly to algae ...
Giant frog instead
Forg
Forg
Forg
The Forg will come and devour you, False-Light.
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for daytime runs? I need to do Coevolution 4 but also down for w/e
mossy bridge
sure
tawdry sequoia
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for daytime runs? I need to do Coevolution 4 b...
If you're still looking
mossy bridge
Giant frog instead
i have bad experiences with giant frog enemies
YEAH I KNOW RIGHT
tawdry sequoia
cinder hare
someone brought up that making self-res purple + more expensive might not be good for casuals who cant afford to bring 1-3 every game
esp since a good amount of play can become self res spam
cinder hare
yeah but im ignoring solos for now
mossy bridge
on the other hand reboot+
neat nest
Aren’t they like 500 credits a pop
cinder hare
esp cuz they're depleted
mossy bridge
800 now
placid oxide
800
oak glacier
800 is nothing >_>
cinder hare
which is an interesting line of thought, but i do think increasing the price to 800 doesnt address the "issue"
mossy bridge
800, purple quality
neat nest
Yeah I don’t think it’s really a problem
Cheaper than 3 stack of green shield recharges
placid oxide
With cryo it almost feels silly to bring them yourself when they give you so many
cinder hare
also bubbles being purple does help since its not a shop item so you have to go out to get them
cinder hare
With cryo it almost feels silly to bring them yourself when they give you so man...
i bring 1 sharp just in case, really
mossy bridge
it makes them rarer spawns
cinder hare
esp cuz purple now = less in cryo
also interestingly, vandal is somewhat meta in the highest ranks of cryo, where everyone sports golds and purples
because triple jump is just way too good
sand sluice
someone brought up that making self-res purple + more expensive might not be goo...
Having grinded up to gold ranked + seeing balance changes, you're basically looking at 4 sets of people. Have they put in the time and do they have a dedicated stack
The primary issues with the game outside of direct balance is primarily going to be econ.
If you aren't answering yes to both earlier there's a fairly strong change you've never gotten gold salvage by this point which if you look at meta prog, gold savage is the end game goal to 100% upgrades.
Purple shields are thankfully available via nucal milestone 3 barter, so past that you're looking at guns which won't always make the difference assuming devs are actively balancing (right now compiler gun might still be strong but outside of that gold weapons don't put out as much as advantage as people might feel)
mossy bridge
@tawdry sequoia coming back now
tawdry sequoia
sorry, had to hop off
mossy bridge
it’s cool
sand sluice
You can earn credits + purple salvage as rook fairly easily thankfully so credits aren't that much of a hard debuff to casual players and moreso hit the players that spend the least amount of time with no dedicated stack the most (assuming they can even buy self rez)
mossy bridge
You can earn credits + purple salvage as rook fairly easily thankfully so credit...
hi im players without a dedicated stack
and let me tell you: we're fucking broke
me after cyac runs my pockets ffor cash
sand sluice
Yeh exactly, for you, it would mainly be looking at rook runs to earn some money
mossy bridge
i sleep on rook runs honestly
sand sluice
But that requires time
mossy bridge
bad habit
sand sluice
Well tbf
cinder hare
outpost rooks :)
sand sluice
Rook runs you can't actively do prio contract
Which means you likely aren't able to upgrade your faction rep to get w/e bonuses
Which then cycle back to making it easier to get things
mossy bridge
true
neat nest
I haven’t been doing many rook runs since my vault is too full
cinder hare
run flight ctrl -> rat -> steal leftovers (usually blues and all that, and purp salvages if you can -> hide -> final exfil
mossy bridge
that's why i dont do them or at least, part of why
cinder hare
i use rook runs to gather guns for ranked
neat nest
Unrelated but my steaks have been too juicy and lobsters too buttery lately
mossy bridge
I only do outpost rook that shit feels like my ass was sent to shadow moses
cinder hare
and if i exfil ranked, i come out with really good guns
like, a purpl bully or a outland or whatever
mossy bridge
did my first carri aaaaaaaaaaand it's all greys
sand sluice
Wdym
tawdry sequoia
I got greens
mossy bridge
carri enhanced salvage crate
sand sluice
Oh
mossy bridge
I wouldnt mind greens if it was hard drives, compounds or lenses
Those are the three i'm still short on
sand sluice
I would be mindful about doing that and instead focus on faction rep
mossy bridge
don't need anymore sparkleaf atp
sand sluice
Since faction rep levels give salvage and once you hit vip they regularly give purp salvage
neat nest
Prolly all my ONI good runner points are going into Sekiguchi rep
sand sluice
Prolly all my ONI good runner points are going into Sekiguchi rep
Yup same here, I just wanna hit vip with all factions so I don't have to worry about doing it s2
neat nest
cinder hare
i should vip nucal
placid oxide
It's been a reliable way for me to get biolens seeds
oak glacier
im trying to vip arachne rn
gonna work on the others after ~w~
obsidian latch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364289254045515886/1480661349536104518/R...
Need this but it’s the recon and med drones doing this
neat nest
Need that too now
pale flare
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone up for some runs?
oak glacier
oh the sponsored queue is up
tawdry sequoia
I have a shockingly packed social schedule for tonight 
I wanted to play more but, friends who rarely show up
obsidian latch
Need that too now
The drones are definitely Gen Alpha iPad kids
Triage tries to teach Squish to be a good boy but Recon just watches the Scout run around and crawl all over everyone and she just shrugs
placid oxide
Some posts suggesting this may be an upcoming assassin skin that got datamined
oak glacier
craziest sponsored dire marsh run
we did the anomaly
got the cube
were waiting on exfil
i get downed
i start crawling to exfil
cube carrier gets downed, starts crawling after me
i make it to exfil
countdown starts
cube carrier makes it, and enemy runner starts shooting at me and fully kills me
starts shooting at the carrier too
but because i started the countdown he makes it out
best part
both randos we're german
they would just ocasionally ask me something in english and id use the ping system to reply yes/no
very fun run
poggies
i honestly wasnt expecting the reward to get shared without me sucessfully exfiling
cinder hare
oh yeah stay till the end and you get shared stuff & quest rewards
twin rain
huge!
oak glacier
me and other german bro died
so the second the cube carrier german bro exfiled we finished :3
#worth
neat nest
craziest sponsored dire marsh run
Oh nice it shows shared stuff now
twin rain
it did before, a similar thing happened to me a few weeks back (the cube carrier exfilled first without us and we died shortly after)
pale flare
oh that's pretty cool
twin rain
<@&1474420814979010821> mednesday might marton?
craggy laurel
I can join in a few!
twin rain
startin a channel
placid oxide
I can in about 20 or so
twin rain
looks like we filled! maybe later if folks drop
placid oxide
Sounds good!
pale flare
secured resource is pretty profitable now
oak glacier
oooh nice
is the br33 from that?
pale flare
and the blue shield from a commander that spawned from it, too
oak glacier
nice nice
void stirrup
What's the sauce on the blue unique BR?
mossy bridge
I think that’s the one bungo used as an example
So you can probably find it posted on their socials
neat nest
What's the sauce on the blue unique BR?
very good
void stirrup
I think that’s the one bungo used as an example
I believe that was the DRRVSH, which is the BRRRT unique
pale flare
pale flare
I think it's like +10-15 all non damage stats?
void stirrup
Does it not say the stat boosts up top? on the lil descriptor bar
The range does seem a fair bit higher tho, which is noice
pale flare
I think the specifics for the br specifically are on ziegler's twitter, but I ain't logging into that lol
standard br (no mods) in my vault for reference
<@&1474420814979010821> there enough folks to get a second team together?
pale flare
finished someone in the exfil but the animation took too long and I got exfiled before I could leave and my teammates died to another squad T_T
chilly pebble
<@&1474420814979010821> there enough folks to get a second team together?
I'm up for some
random vessel
I can be around
twin rain
space has opened up in the first squad as well
lament pecan
anybody else finding a ton of outlands since the update
i had never seven seen one before today but ive seen like 6 in the wild since today
neat nest
I think they swapped the spawn commonalities of the Longshot and Outland last patch
twin rain
I've heard that too. Hadn't seen one myself (mostly just playing as fertilizer in dire marsh)
but I'm excited/scared, that thing's nasty
cinder hare
crazy idea
if you can prox chat via thief drone someday
im gonna use it to find friendlies
toss a heal or something cheap in -> prox chat -> friendly(?)
even better if its ranked, cuz 6 man in ranked = "ight lets ambush them later" hehehehehe
lament pecan
I think they swapped the spawn commonalities of the Longshot and Outland last pa...
i hate to make an obvious "wow this is just like (insert previous bungie title)" comparison but finding an outland feels a LOT more like finding a power weapon in a halo map or something
neat nest
I've actually yet to use one much but it seems so good if you hit your headshots
lament pecan
hell in dire marsh free kits i think i just downed some poor runner with a chest shot
cinder hare
i wanna new shell to play with...
distant zinc
i can’t wait for sentinel
i heard rumors there are probably gonna be 3 more runners added
lament pecan
yeah, the one based on the UI having an odd amount of room for just 7 shells, right?
cinder hare
mightve had the funniest game ever
i solo'd an entire team
as rook
without even being present for the fight
i just claymore'd some doors and then the whole team walked in and died
obsidian latch
Me and 2 Russian guys iced out like most of a server before we got jumped while recovering
slow rock
if you ask me, all rooks are evil.
cinder hare
I love the unamused triage
lament pecan
EVIL ROOK
me, seeing my squadmate get downed by two wstr shots from a rook: "They have to reload, now is my chance to push"
the EVIL ROOK:
im a little sad that thermals got put in purple jail bc i ran recon with a thermal bully and like 6 smokes and just went specops on people
cinder hare
If I get a WSTR I'm so sorry rooks but I'm gonna farm all your backpacks
lament pecan
unironically i dont even buy many blue bags anymore i just go rook hunting on outpost
neat nest
Ah so people become runners for French foreign legion reasons
Pretty good line in the article
obsidian latch
Honestly idk this has been on my phone at least a week
woeful tundra
Then don't post it here.
obsidian latch
👍
sand sluice
I'm glad to see most people are enjoying the dire marsh sponsored kit queue and giving non loaded feedback about how it feels vs normal game
A lot of people are finding more nuanced opinions than the kinda go-to "purple shield stacks are making the queues unbearable"
For me personally tho either my cyac store is bugged or the +500 rep boxes are a one stock deal 😭
tawdry sequoia
I think they said the boxes are limited
sand sluice
Gotcha
Kind of a rip for me but tbf it was mainly cause of sekiguchi
And I get not letting people just buy them repeatedly cause then that way people will still do the prio contracts or rotating contracts
tawdry sequoia
Armory
The C.A.R.R.I. Armory allows you to spend CyberAcme Commendations for Salvage Crates that grant a random stack of Salvage items or Reputation Packs that provide reputation for their associated faction. Salvage Crate and Sponsored Kit stock refreshes daily while other C.A.R.R.I. offers do not refresh and can only be purchased once.
I think that the sponsor kit mode also meaning that people don't crewfill into people sponkitting and vice versa is neat
I know that was something some people got tilted over
echo scroll
A lot of people are finding more nuanced opinions than the kinda go-to "purple s...
Still found purple shield boyos in sponsored darsh, makes you think
sand sluice
A full team?
Like if it's last 10 minutes it's definitely possible between rng on keys and other things
Like my successful runs usually end with 1-2 having blue and everyone else having green minimum
neat nest
Finding a full crews worth of purple shields seems very lucky on darsh
sand sluice
Yeah like my guess would be key + lucky loot on random box/commander kill
Cause elsewise nothing usually drops a purple that easily
Even when I'm solo and get like 3-5 runs done only purple shields I see are from other players
patent thicket
Yeah, I’ve only ever gotten purple shields off of other runners.
sand sluice
It's kind of one of my things alongside prestige salvage being virtually inaccessible
Purple shields feel like they don't that commonly with the exception of key rooms
neat nest
NuCal has given me 3 so far
sand sluice
Ye I think Nucal vip ranks might drop them but not sure
The kinda half good news is difference between blue and purple isnt that much
But for a lot of people they haven't reached the point of being able to buy blue shields yet
neat nest
Yeah I’m… several biolens seeds short
sand sluice
Is biolens only on dire marsh?
Cause if so I honestly forgot the fact that like
Dire marsh being the map that it is means it's not always easy to get purp salvage esp cause it's not shared
neat nest
Is biolens only on dire marsh?
They can also appear on Perimeter but lol good luck
tawdry sequoia
hitting NuCal VIP gave me two
so it might be worth powerlevelling NuCal for them if you have trouble finding them otherwise
placid oxide
Yeah that's been my strategy is just rushing NuCal VIP ranks
tawdry sequoia
doing the less intensive repeatable quests while getting others' contracts done is pretty lucrative
I also need to be more willing to just grab a big ol' stack of random valuables
it's not much, but I get more value out of them than a random antivirus or mech kit
twin rain
Yeah that's been my strat. Valuemaxxing or whatever. Been able to comfortably get guns from schema or the armory
sand sluice
It's how I stay above 500k when I'm not farming specific things
Which like
Did lockdowns like 4 times, no gold salvage
So I'm just sitting here going
Also as a side note
Not once have I seen a sniper win an engagement in like my 20ish solo runs since the nerf
tawdry sequoia
interesting, what was nerfed again, thermal availability, recoil?
sand sluice
The only time wasnt a true win, it's because I got stuck and couldn't move through one of the triangle slots at bio research 
sand sluice
interesting, what was nerfed again, thermal availability, recoil?
I think outside of damage they kinda just across the board nerfs
I missed like 5 shots in a row and was like, "what the shit"
tawdry sequoia
yeah okay that's just an all-across the board nerf
sand sluice
Which was bigger than their head
Meanwhile I just ego peek'd all the snipers with an m77 or volley
And they died
tawdry sequoia
sand sluice
I didn't expect to play some bf6 in marathon but here we are
Tbf tho if they're like 200m away I can't do shit
tawdry sequoia
yeah, I'm sure people will figure it out after a while, but I do not mind snipers being less dominant within 50 meters
sand sluice
But given thermal nerfs + dire marsh so habitually foggy, only spot that could really happen is like, anti fog glitching ontop of quarantine
sand sluice
yeah, I'm sure people will figure it out after a while, but I do not mind sniper...
It's weird because like, it won't nerf coordinated teams that much because they'll just coordinate a 2 tap body shot with snipers
But it should prevent a lot of the like, trio sniping and just downing a team instantly
On the flipside my suspect is the meta will swap from spamming sniper shots to 1 tap body/head then swap to secondary for the down
Which is good
tawdry sequoia
probably higher skill expression there, yeah
not that that's relevant where I'm at, but hey 
sand sluice
It's always relevant, even if you happen to not hit it all the time
Cause higher skill on use from an enemy means they have to risk whiffing more for the better theoretical payoff
It's similar-ish to the knife nerf where knife requiring more swings means people have more time to react
Main difference with the knife nerf is knife is always available and was an equalizer while the sniper rifles weren't always available and never could compete with shotguns at close quarters like the knife could
I def like it tho
especially the change for sniper drops and seeing the outland more
Because now outland vs Longshot feels more choosy on bigger damage with bolt or less damage but no bolt
Also as far as I can tell the new unique blue guns are all cool and fun drops
Cause they're just big stat sticks to the guns making them a cool side grade to not having purple mods on them
tawdry sequoia
how do you get those drops again? are they random or from specific events
sand sluice
IIRC they're from random events on perimeter and dire marsh
placid oxide
I see most folks get them from the events like supply drops or secured resource
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some afternoon runs? Could do Cryo, Contracts, w/e
sand sluice
Granted I haven't seen them tho which is a bit odd but then again I am primarily forgoing supply drops/secured resource on dire marsh for kills/lockdowns
tawdry sequoia
I'm still working, but I'm hoping to get stuff done in 30~
placid oxide
I'll be around just hmu
placid oxide
Sponsored DM feels really good
tawdry sequoia
I'll hop on in 5
slate field
I'll also be available in a bit. Looking to do some econ runs
cinder hare
goin for cryo today
ivory laurel
I need to do some key template runs soon
cinder hare
what the actual fuck was this run
forgot a matter fixative whoops
should i buy this...
mossy bridge
what the actual fuck was this run
rookin it
mossy bridge
*smug sounds*
what's the gold wstr mod again? slugs, right
(sorry for double ping also)
twin rain
Not Carmen but yeah slugs plus some general stat buffs including fire rate.
cinder hare
what's the gold wstr mod again? slugs, right
Slugs and hella stats
Its honestly cracked with purple gun backpack
mossy bridge
I remembered the slug bit cause of that crazy ass clip of someone getting a snipe with it from the field by AI uplink to the roof of AI uplink
cinder hare
And Overrun is burst fire with massive aim assist bonus iirc
Retaliator is taking shield damage restores ammo
cinder hare
I think the gun shield, to be exact
Its not super strong cuz purple mega belt exists and same with stack overflow
I bet it's a lot more potent but ime infinite ammo isn't too absurdly potent
twin rain
The overrun is toggleable 5-burst with body shots increasing the damage on headshots (I used this one recently). It functions somewhere between the brrt and the volley. With the option to hose as needed. The M77 gets better aim assist as part of it's gold mod IIRC.
cinder hare
Ngl I'm just doing rookpost runs and skinning rooks at the "right time" and making 12k per day to buy golds with
mossy bridge
meanwhile im still getting Fell For It Again Awards thinking a solo fill will be any different this time (it wont)
oak glacier
plenty of people here have had good experiences with filling solo into trios
mossy bridge
I haven't had a good one in weeks
placid oxide
Had great experience doing it for Cryo, weirdly enough
mossy bridge
Cryo seems like the one place I would do it frankly
cause usually the people there are yknow, geared
and are at least somewhat confident in themselves
neat nest
Despair swamp kinda rules yeah
mossy bridge
It really is
It really is a swamp of despair
We need to rename the Great Dismal Swamp to The Large, Pretty Okay Swamp and call Dire Marsh the Great Dismal Swamp instead
neat nest
I also think it’s cool how in the Chinese translation Tau Ceti IV is called Paradise
mossy bridge
crazy
sharp plover
with actual (traditional) chinese star names, you basically have to invent new names for planets unless you want a paragraph
In Chinese astronomy, the "Square Celestial Granary" (Chinese: 天倉; pinyin: Tiān Cāng) refers to an asterism consisting of τ Ceti, ι Ceti, η Ceti, ζ Ceti, θ Ceti and 57 Ceti.[17] Consequently, the Chinese name for τ Ceti itself is "the Fifth Star of Square Celestial Granary" (Chinese: 天倉五; pinyin: Tiān Cāng wǔ).
so itd be something like Fourth Planet of the Fifth Star of the Square Celestial Granary
sand sluice
I haven't had a good one in weeks
You just gotta remember you're at the hands of rng to be able to get teammates that will makeup for any lack of ability to 1v3.
Easiest is outpost due to there only being 4 teams and the fact you can do a lot of heavy lifting if you've got decent fps skill.
But the problem there is it's arguably more lucrative to run rook due to no real guarantee of getting anything amazing and I can also sometimes 1v3 as rook anyways due to wstr.
If you solo queue or solo into trios your main goal IMO is to build credits and upgrades to the point you can just buy blue shields, meds, and green/blue gun from armory.
Or just play rook, go outpost, find any of the many weapon lockers, get a gun, extract, buy w/e shield and meds and send it.
The reality is marathon is an extraction shooter so the loop is building for a win and more or less you treat every successful exfil as a win.
The game will not have a fair lobby outside of the sponsored kit queue because everybody can bring in different amounts of gear
Best thing to do is to figure out what your goals are per going into a match and stick to them the best you can.
Like my goals rn are primarily between sekiguchi questing or gold salvage
cinder hare
i can somewhat consistently 1v2 now
1v3 if im smart about it
esp in pinwheel
i only need the WSTR upgrade then i become straight god
sand sluice
IIRC they spawn in certain areas in dire marsh
mossy bridge
overflow quarantine greenhouse and cryo revival
sand sluice
Thief if you want to speed run those areas or assassin for the run away and hide potential, can solo queue with free kits with either of those, W key the areas until you find it then hide like crazy until you can exfil
cinder hare
ngl my current rotation is just rook -> ranked (wstr + free gun) / cryo
cuz turns out, rook is really close to 3k
mossy bridge
i barely play rook
also im never playing assassin out of principle
invisibility in a PVP game is for cowards
sand sluice
Then ye I recommend thief and just speed blitzing the areas and grapple to run
cinder hare
and as long as you dont get hit by the evil and intimidating gold players who have objectively better DPS output, you can press your luck
mossy bridge
sure, she's good, but she needs cores to excel and said cores are blue
cinder hare
and pull purple shields off ranked
sand sluice
Well, vandal you're primarily using for escape potential
mossy bridge
im never playing ranked dude i get mad enough as is at non ranked
if i play ranked i will make benson from regular show look calm
cinder hare
im reached enlightment /j
sand sluice
Which in solo queue if you're going for biolens you generally give up a lot of utility from thief if you go vandal
mossy bridge
good for you i cant even get a single useful resource
sand sluice
Wdym? How are you running your solo queue stuff in dire marsh?
sand sluice
Oh
mossy bridge
also i dont solo queue dire marsh
because it sucks
and i've done every contract that needs me to go there so im free
cinder hare
i only q ranked and cryo if im not playing rooknow
mossy bridge
oh nevermind
unsanctioned hostilities 5/5 needs me to go there
god damn it i thought i was free
cinder hare
because cryo is big fun (wowzers so many burble!!!)
sand sluice
Then you're spending so much time not searching for biolens seed that I would argue doing w key with free kit in solos is more worth the time
cinder hare
not that bad a mission ngl, for unsanctioned
bring an LMG w/ stack overflow, and rush anomaly, rush exfil
mossy bridge
You can def do solo fill trios into dire marsh but like
i can't solo fill trios into any map because i get like
a Level 1 Goblin and a blind man as my team mates, and the enemies are agent 47 kiryu kazuma and leon s. kennedy
cinder hare
challenge is, its a LOT of UESC you need to fight
patent thicket
cinder hare
i play rook a lot, its really fun esp if you get all the rook upgrades
sand sluice
i can't solo fill trios into any map because i get like
a Level 1 Goblin and a b...
Then ye your best option is solo queue into dire marsh for biolens unless you wanna build up for cryo but then that takes it's own time (again assuming you're going for biolens)
Like don't get me wrong
It's def gonna feel crazy
But the way I got better at dire marsh was doing every contract solo with a free kit
And just w-keying to the point I learned the spawns and how to rotate around areas
cinder hare
also dire free kit queue is up now
sand sluice
Yeh can do that too
cinder hare
my suggestion is if you spawn close to maintainence, rush maintainence
catwalk seems to have guaranteed arms lockers
unless its not and my like, 2-3 runs there hav ebeen lucky
sand sluice
my suggestion is if you spawn close to maintainence, rush maintainence
See I like rushing quarantine for free visibility through fog because bungie hasn't fixed the fog bug 
sand sluice
It can be yeh
mossy bridge
in terms of Violence Potential ponds and intersection are
sand sluice
Intersection isn't toooo bad, you just gotta be prepared to S key if you don't wanna fight
mossy bridge
the entire map is a wall of pain
sand sluice
It can be but def less so now with the sniper nerfs
mossy bridge
the beach by AI uplink
ponds
intersection
Perimeter has the data wall but dire marsh has the pain wall
sand sluice
But yeh that's what I suggest for trying to get biolens
cinder hare
ngl dire feels really peaceful if you take your time listening to audio
sand sluice
There's like 8 people in dire marsh solo I think?
sand sluice
ngl dire feels really peaceful if you take your time listening to audio
If you sit ontop somewhere with a sniper you can just relax like it's fishing
mossy bridge
im done
mossy bridge
i just want to be good at the game is that so much to ask
sand sluice
There's ways to improve but it's a mix of different avenues
And a whole lotta "fuck it we ball" mentality, I'd argue more so than most games
mossy bridge
there are no avenues that i can take right now
and with the way things are going the game is going to be finished by the time i can use them
i dont want to sound like im rageposting because this is a genuine question for one of my biggest weaknesses that leads to most of my solo deaths but
what am i meant to do about some guy just appearing out of nowhere around the corner and obliterating me in 2 seconds flat? i didn't hear him at all and by the time i could react my shield was gone and i was half dead
oak glacier
that sounds like a map knowledge thing
knowing where people are likely to hide and ambush
mossy bridge
...the stairs leading to the second floor of station are not somewhere i'd think people would ambush even if the tox clear room was there
oak glacier
was he on the stairs or like
right after the second floor door?
mossy bridge
on the stairs
oak glacier
cause i know i personally got a kill on a solo thief on the second level by hiding in a cubicle
but thats a bit further in
mossy bridge
i guess he heard me close the door
oak glacier
doors are loud yes
sand sluice
Everything you do that isn't crouch walking makes a noise ye
oak glacier
when im playing with friends we call out all door actions/breaking glass/shutters
mossy bridge
hot take i dont tihnk i should be liquefied in ~2 seconds for opening a door near someone
mossy bridge
we were on even ground
oak glacier
imo, if you're just now realising that the door making a noise couldve alerted him, he probably heard you way before the door
you can hear people looting in this game
cinder hare
Everything you do that isn't crouch walking makes a noise ye
crouch walking makes noise, just a lot less
oak glacier
ive gotten people cause i heard them open a container before
cinder hare
ADS crouch walking is no sound i think
oak glacier
and went in purely on that knowledge
cinder hare
thief can actually watch where people are based on their looting
sand sluice
Technically if you analog stick crouch walk it makes a footstep at the end of the animation loop to the point the other player has to have really good awareness
slate field
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for doing a few salvage runs on Dire Marsh/Outpost?
mossy bridge
ive gotten people cause i heard them open a container before
me too
sand sluice
I will say as an aside thing
If the situation you described happened, there's very little you could have done, it just kinda came down to blind luck they happened to notice you first for w/e reason
But minimizing noise you make, hitting tads (mindfully), and thinking about the route you want to take before entering an area can help reduce that sorta thing
mossy bridge
this is where i mean
sand sluice
Yeah that's a death hall
oak glacier
where was he in that picture
sand sluice
Several spots people can hide if they heard you first
mossy bridge
i just wanted to do the toix clear
stairs
that's what i thought where the hell did he come from
sand sluice
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for doing a few salvage runs on Dire Marsh/Out...
Give me like 20ish min
slate field
Give me like 20ish min
Sure, gives me time to get something to snack on
mossy bridge
nevermind im not playing anymore tonight
slate field
Too many bad runs?
mossy bridge
unironically being downed by the fist
slate field
Oof
mossy bridge
didnt even wait for the run finished thing i just left the squad
lost out of the arachne xp cause we killed tons of people but i felt genuinely incandescant after that
sand sluice
Sure, gives me time to get something to snack on
ok am ready
twin rain
Can be on in a few, just finishing groceries. 10-15.
neat nest
Afaik it doesn’t matter at all sprinting is just 6.4 m/s unless you’re Vandal with Amplify
neat nest
I think it’s the way it is pretty intentionally
cinder hare
yeah its just i kept using it cuz i thought i had more sprint speed
neat nest
Since sprinting is an important “travel speed” stat and you don’t wanna automatically split your team
patent thicket
What all does Agility affect?
cinder hare
walking ik
patent thicket
I thought it did jump height too.
cosmic flame
if it was anything like Destiny mobility, it's walk speed and jumpheight
mossy bridge
it's definitely jump height
neat nest
It’s walk speed and jump height afaik
twin rain
Hard crash, reconnecting in a sec
slate field
<@&1474420814979010821> Looking for yet another 3rd
pale flare
I can hop on
twin rain
btw this is what was in the schema we found in the supply drop
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for getting a second group going?
I’ve got a full vault and need to burn away some of the gear I’ve saved.
patent thicket
I'm down.
twin rain
yeah same