#Marathon
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The best loot on Darsh is malingering and jumping lockdown hunters ime
Yeah that's what Ive felt
the keys are obviously usually good to great but that's a rarer treat
Keys have kind of entered a no-go for me
I need to test if signal jammers silence the door alarms
I doubt it
For keys?
Yeah for the key room door open alarm
if they do, it would have to be an unintentional interaction
Yeah there's no way that's normal
I've not had awful key room experiences, but I try not to linger too long
30-45 seconds of stuffing things in my pack then legging it
yeah I've not done one solo
But tbf with trios
I really should just like
Embrace free will and leave
And not wait for my team
Trios I’ve got a fairly good regimen now which is doing them after 5-8 minutes of lurking and not staying in the room for more than about 60 seconds
I find if you rush them it’s a dinner bell for half the map and if you wait too long someone else might open it
Yeah the lurking is kinda killing me
It was one of my least favorite parts of tarkov
And in this game it feels wrong to do that but to be entirely fair
Just depends on the map
Outpost at this point it's better to just w key the other 3 teams and lobby wipe or reset
Dire marsh is dire marsh so lurking usually has better results
I’ve become a big fan of it, it’s great to spend a couple of minutes just keeping an eye and ear out to get a sense of what’s happening on the map
just loot a poi while ambling over and keeping an ear out, yeah
oh? where’s the lore for this i’m inchrested
Yeh it's how I solo queued rank with thief
Just watch what happened on the map for like 20 min before speed looting and exfilling
Then when outpost happened I was like, "well can't do that" and it turned more into rng with teammates and just playing well
Which is funny because like
One of my most successful games was getting filled into a duo and hearing them bitch at each other for a full minute about running out of their bio injectors before we finally loaded in and one was like, "yo how are your games going Reverb"
And I was just like in my head, "well I can mute them but honestly these guys are actually chill if they're dropping the viritrol when talking to the random they're playing with"
And sure enough some of the more chill people I got with more relaxed comms
Its weirdly refreshing, Idk why but ranked marathon was one of the best ranked experiences I've had in gaming
Gimme a bit I'll see if I can't pull it up
I only had to mute once, someone in trio fill was not on push to talk and thus was hot micing room tone and lipsmacking, and I could not cope
every single game subreddit is whining it's all the format rewards
the whine posts get engagement
Ye
and are thus considered "hot"
and the default for reddit is to push "hot" posts to the top
yeah, social media is encouraged to recycle the same arguments that make people mad, I know
it still caught me off guard since I was having fun with it all easter weekend
@viscid plume
i have all the contract lore except for traxus
missing unsanctioned hostilities 3 4 and 5
Thought this was interesting- sound setup from the audio team
tysm!
Wait Cyan you killed compiler?
Thank Atlas cause I didn't get a chance to pull it up yet lel
not crazy expensive for audiophile headphones
im
um
wearing those exact headphones
No haha
The assassin one?
#1360700632998215701 message
It’s Azazel it’s a cheap store skin
Okay I was going to say lol
Well, huh it sure is
Yeah Cryo hasn’t clicked for me yet I’ve had 1 successful exfil haha
i do want the new knife it comes with
i like it more than white rabbit ngl
It’s jus the lose everything factory for me
if i was going to buy a skin it'd be tresspass or cyber red
Cyber Red is my favorite they’ve put out so far
Cause I keep having stuff™ happen and then I get home and I half sleep until like midnight
I’ve been home all week with a sick kid so my play time is intermittent
Also I like
Really want to queue with people at lower levels
Because I'm curious to see if it'll pull people to my lobbies or pull me to their lobbies
Cause I gotta keep that in mind if I'm trying to help with contracts
Also I'm having major skill issues rn
Cause knife nerf hit me in a way I didn't realize
I can no longer 1 tap eliminate people from downed state with knife heavy 
Ive had like 3 fights alone where I was like
I am kinda glad it made it harder to just insta-bag people
You shall suffer the execute animation or you shallst shoot
"Okay I downed them, time to eliminate with heavy knife oh nYOOO"
I need to shoot
My usual strat was like
Down with w/e -> run close -> heavy knife -> dodge away
If they don't have a triage I tend not to sweat hard, self rez is slow an loud but if their friends dip they gone
Triage rez in middle of fight is risky af
The headphones I have that would have made me mic less last night are the DT 990 Pro X
yeah i had someone try and self res under the stairs at west gate by quarantine
Preventing bleedout also kinda big
i heard them from inside quarantine
Mirage Apex Legends was purposeful training to find these guys
The preventing bleedout and quick rez speed for fight recovery is triage's main battle util. The drone on running away is also pretty solid
But in an actual 3v3 if someone is out of position they're just cooked
Also the unrivalled emotional support of the drone goin ">:3" when you fire
You can try bubble rez but enemies can just rush if they're paying attention (not all teams pay attention)
Most of my ranked gameplay was mainly using triage to enable people, but assassin and destroyer were still carries
Assassin is more of a carry now with knife nerfs
I will say destroyer still rly good due to rotation utility with thrusters
i love the weird liquid level of the drones
The funniest thing about drones to me
You can 100% shoot them to counter triage shareware
I kind of wish shareware worked both ways but probably overpowered
It def would be ye
Just always a lil awk to trade heals
Triage is in a good spot right now balance wise
Let us pitch inventory items like a grenade to mech os my friend in cover
Looking forward to Vandal buff
i'd argue he's the best
overall
Destroyer is a contender imo
Overall he's probably the most balanced
The damage amp thankfully no one seems to use is so strong
triage, destroyer are balanced
thief seems a little strong (just a bit)
assassin is now far more fair
vandal and recon need some love
and rook is rook
Destroyer used to be best but knife nerfs puts him below assassin and now IMO he's more next to triage
The CD is so short it’s wild
I fear for Thief Vision getting CD hit too
same
Assassin is waaaaay stronger now as smoke forces concealment and you can no longer swing wildly into it with knife
then i'd actually have to run the core that extends the duration on hacking people
You can I did yesterday
No I mean.
and easier to be punished
Yeah exactly
How do fletchettes feel about smoke
But I think I might have fucked up eyes or a fucked up monitor since I had very little trouble seeing the assassin in smoke
indifferent
the flechettes cometh
You'll get punished for it if the assassin has any skill with aiming
Yaaay
We Are The Bees. Give Us Your Blood.
Always appreciate good grenades
Chems work even better
i slept on chems too hard
Like it used to be one of the counters for assassin smoke was just rushing it and swinging with knife and it was up to the assassin to counter your shove
I get them much less often
they're basically just molotovs
M'all heat and fletchetted
The splatter fills basically a whole cloud and they make people glow
more than the actual heat grenades
Same
Yeah they should adjust the tooltip maybe
But now assassin smoke can net them some safety since knife damage got nerfed.
Unless the assassin isn't running shotguns
In which case like
They're kind of a combo molotov and stingbang
because they fuck up your movement
but also set you on fire for DOT
Assassin just should run on smoke and not hide in it
Ye, it's why assassin is stronger now minus thermal roshambo
My favorite assassin trick is popping super smoke and then walking the opposite direction
Thankfully thief + destroyer still have anti assassin stuff built in
If they didn't assassin would probably be strongest in both solos and trios
It's wild how sad thief makes assassin
Your whole deal: nah
30 second cd that has a ton of other utility
Yeah thief vision is nuts
Earlier I was like, "recon should probably have it more than thief" but with knife nerfs I'm like, "yeah this makes sense now"
they should give vandal wall running. it would be funny i think.
Once recon gets buffed, assuming it counters assassin I can see thief vision getting tweaked to not be so strong against assassins
does recon have a third ability actually
Yes
what is it
Thief vision is probably getting nerfed
Finishers ping the other runners
No, not an active anyway
Finisher pings
Honestly it's p good
right
Oh no it's not an active
Which like to be clear
Pre knife nerf it was absolutely bad
for a third active i was thinking like, the tripwires the UESC put up that hack you
But with knife nerf it actually will see more usage
Since finisher is roughly same speed as melee elim on dbno
Recon gets footsteps on people with broken shields, interrogation, the stupid grenade, and the position announcer
Also quietly the best overall stats but that’s sort of marginal
I feel like the footsteps could appear on damage and be fine
Rn 100% ye
But they want it more hunterkiller-ish i guess
Ima wait for shell changes to see tho
Recon’s problems are that the pulse is awful and the grenade doesn’t work
The rest is fine I think
Like personal bias I want assassin to be the weakest so any buff to the other shells would be good to me.
But logically stuff like, "damage gives footsteps" is super strong, esp if recon buffs turn out well (which looks like they will)
Oh sweet we have a channel for this
So I can't be like, "yes recon should get moar"
Recon should get an even larger helmet
Agreed
Recon was extremely strong (probably top 1?) in the MCTT
It was probably recon destroyer and triage for top 3 in it but people hadn’t cottoned on to the others as much
Both felt pretty rare but I got them sort of equally
I have yet to see a misriah.. surely they exist
They exist but like
Maybe my only missing other than The Funny Boss One
Just play rook with wstr and get matter fixitive
One of my friends has fallen into a trap of only liking one gun
This genre is not kind to it
But so many of these shooties feel good, too
Extraction shooters are usually very kind to that exact thing
I more don't understand how he doesn't like more guns
Marton isn't because vault space is limited to 400
And a lot of that vault space is used on salvage
So if your gun isn't accessible for normal credits (which is stock limited btw) you can only really get so many
Oh that?
I mean if they're okay with no other guns
I definitely PREFER the bully to other guns but yeah they all feel pretty good
Just go run rook outpost, fight nobody and loot arms lockers on pinwheel or armories
You'll prob get 1-2 every few runs
Only issue is uhh
Rook is like
I need some sort of spell to find less Overrun ARs
Early tarkov scavving
I just wish I could find shields more than once in a blue moon, I only have one left
You have 0 incentive to co-op as rook
Yeah you can try and have some success
My advice is to learn the good barters for shields and get them that way
Love ya NuCaloric
yeah if you can, get to the barter milestone in nucaloric upgrades
1 neurochem can be turned into 1 blue shield for example and it’s WAY easier to get neurochems than blue shields in the wild
buying shields is worse than barter
Yeah, unfortunately learning the trade system is gonna be important
Nucal quietly keeps this whole game running
Dermachems, enzyme replicators?
Stack those and you'll have blue shields and purple shields when the barters come up
I hate economies 😔
There is a dermachem for green shield barter too
It's not like a changing econ based on player stuff
Just they have the options up or not on different days
But it’s less exciting since green shields are like 900 credits
Yeah basically
Rook outpost -> loot all green and above credit items -> loot prioritized salvage (track it) -> exfil
Once bag is full leave
Just leave, don't fight
Let me do the fighting
Yeah it definitely makes going salvage hunting more interesting
Me over here having had 2 runs where I killed 6 people as rook by myself
Ima get zone warden by playing rook I swear
I have every other one except kill 9 runners and snipe someone as rook
Sniping someone as rook is easy
9 runners is a pain because fuck I played too much solo and now I have to thirst elims if I want it on like dire marsh
To be fair if I'm lucky I can get 6 kills from 2 squads on outpost and kill 3 rooks
9 runners is easy(ier) in dire marsh trios just hang out near ponds/maint
I need to start grabbing dermachems.
And teammate kills count
They don't no
there's people here who are still doing more early game stuff, and people seem pretty happy to run whatever contract or objective, so if anyone needs help gearing up or contracts/codex, I think this thread is good to squad up with
If they do the elim you don't get credit
Now
If a teammate gets 9 elims
Apparently it can count
But yeah dire marsh is 100% the way
Hmm I think they should change that that’s weird
I just don't have a stock of outlands or v99s 
i think i hate sniper rifles and anyone who uses them against me
so the sniper is unfair
yeah just gonna happen
got it
need the 360 noscope breaking benjamin edits
They did just say
bungie should like their shotguns more
There’s ways to mitigate a lot of the risk from snipers but they’re always gonna be scary in this sort of game
Yeah idk
Like to me it should be uhh
It’s weird that it’s anyone on the squad but they have to get all of them haha
Esp when the rest of the runner kill contracts are anyone on team
Well like you said
the rare ZEUS snipe where you are just deleted is more startling than anything at my level
Yeah but that's gold mod spartan laser
real act of god shit
What's the gold mod for it
And it's also hilarious when it happens
I just kind of use them like elephant guns
2 shots on charge, slight delay between the shots
Second shot immediately after you fire
Sinister
I love it
And the Zeus already 1 shots blue shields
I either take peoples heads right off or miss, they are the coinflip cannons
I want the zeus
I've seen it... maybe twice? as in, seen it from the one eyeball left after the rest of my head is vaporized
I've got a schema for the zeus but have yet to purchase one (tho I will soonlike)
But wrt
I feel like it should be
Downs on a person or elims on a person counts.
So that way if you don't get 1 but you get the other it still counts, but each person can only count once
I’ve had a couple of Zeus’ and it’s good but I wish less rare
Bungie’s famous for the shotgun and sniper being powerful in any game they make.
major learning curve because you can’t hold charges on it
Ye but that's most guns lel
I see more railguns than snipers
Like I wanna see copperhead more
You want to experience the true power of Bungie going off the rails with a shotgun, play Halo: Combat Evolved.
But consider
The humble
.50 cal magnum
Oh, yeah. The pistol in CE is absolutely busted.
But the shotgun is also incredibly powerful.
You can just with very high melee damage
the damage calc Cyan linked says 90 melee to two heavy blues, yeah
Yeah the knife nerfs changed fight approachability
The good news = you can more reliably gun people down trying to knife you
So the skill requirement for doing so is much lower
a knife implant gets you there from max arachne melee upgrades, which I think is not unreasonable
Yus
because you have to exfil for progress to count
loot three bags from runners
and deal 750 damage
i've done the bag
im up to 558 damage
Yeah it’s not too bad, and there’s the implant buffs
and i've just been trying to free kit the last 292 damage
Ye that's my big stuff
i saw an implant effect that was crazy
True build diversity would be allowing to go over 100 cap
Oh yeah that one is a bastard
"on precision elimination hack nearby enemies"
Zamn
i snapped those up even if i am now broke again
I saw that one
plus a few tox injectors
I wish I had a reason to run those
But most of the time I'm looking for reload on kill or overflow
Reload on kills on lmgs gross
And overflow on wstr is also gross lmao
Tbf I also want the purple uesc credit farm mods
But I'm also unhinged and want 5 mil credits
I feel broke otherwise, no I don't know why 
I should probably try to get these last 5 done
I’m still learning Outpost. Man that map has a lot of verticality.
It's my favorite map
I get lost in there a lot and a lot of it is pretty dark.
lots of weird little passages too
did that runner get in via the sewer pipe? from above with a grapple? from the other two buildings nearby that kind of connect?
I once killed a team who was opening pinwheel via security breach by jumping up from the outside holes into the two side rooms
I just jumped up and used the shotgun lmao
real "brother can I have some loops" energy
Outpost is probably the best of the standard set
Still learning locations for the pinwheel boxes
The clip of a vandal jumping up to plant a claymore through those side room holes is peak Marathon to me
oh it was a Vandal
see that's what I was doing going like "I swore a rook was able to do this?"
and then got tired and was like "nah fuck it, shotgun time""
Man i can't wait to hit cryo this week
How does one get into Cryo, anyway?
in a trio, with expensive gear, when the window for entry is open
level 25
all factions unlocked
three players either as a fill or pre-made lobby
oh and 5k loadout value
Ah, I see.
First time you can use a special kit that gives you full blue gear!
Much like heroin, the first hit is free.
(heroin, the drug)
Beyerdynamics is just goated in general
Yes this thank you blade
I wonder what other parts of the Marathon we’ll get into next, I’m very curious about that.
Door maintenance
The obvious next step from the freezer is the kitchen
speaking of which I might need to swap out my headphones since I did buy a 2nd pair but haven't used them yet
Outpost (Marathon), where we go to an undeployed Outpost base all folded up
Gods you want to talk about a confusing layout for a map
but to be honest I'd expect a more engineering/hangar or uesc/bridge/crew area next
(which is very broad on purpose)
We got the cold of cryo, now we get the heat of the kitchen :v
automatic prefab factory complex
using the human-shaped squeezepacks of juice to cook
A map that's just constantly moving like that one titanfall 2 map would be fun
oooh, we could do an outdoor frost area with vertical data servers
The drinkable cheeseburger is people
air cooled server architecture that howls when the wind picks up
doesn't work too well in space, but the idea is evocative
oh sorry, I was thinking in general, not necessarily on the Marathon proper
gotcha
Like, we have seen evidence that Durandal is present, right?
Or am I misremembering that?
which moon is it that the marathon is built in, deimos?
yup
Yep, at least a version of Durandal is there
Deimos, yeah.
the CyAc cryo missions are fairly evidently from Durandal
or if they aren't it's an intentional misdirect
I'd be interested in seeing them do something with the lore of MIDA weapons caches on the Marathon
Hangar Ninety Six

seven hundred and sixty one armless and legless corpses
It would be a fun Easter egg to stumble across the derelict pod the Security Officer came out of at the start of the first game.
I’m sure we’ll go through segments of the ship that are littered with the remains of Pfhor soldiers.
The loot area after the Compiler has Pfhor blood but no bodies
So that’s pretty likely I think
Interesting.
More information to put on my pile of evidence for the UESC trying to cover up the alien presence.
iirc it's an alternate universe of the other games
Yes, but the events of the first game still obviously happened.
Remind me, weaveworms/shell tech is new to this marathon right
AFAIK
yes
It’s one of em
I wonder if we'll eventually get a pfhor corrupted shell
either playable or an enemy
"Get these fucks off my legally salvaged ship" -pfhor commander
but yeah I could sorta see a playable pfhor "shell" (it's just a mindjacked pfhor with the brain cybernetics), pink blood and all
honestly i could see them just
adopting shell tech
they already field disposable foot soldiers this is just making them even more disposable
they already seem incredibly competent with bioengineering too
(see: the nucal storyline)
honestly i dont know if the contagion is a pfhor weapon
considering it's ties to the anomaly
Weaveworms actually weren’t invented until well after the events of most of the marathon games so it’s hard to say
It’s gotta be JJARO
IMO
jjaro or a wrkncacnter
I don’t think it’s the latter but it’s hard to say
Maybe we’ll get the pathways into marathon map later haha
True, bungo does love the whole progenitor species still causing problems
the new map coming fall 2026, Aztec Temple That Is Somehow On Tau Ceti
The anomaly seems to (badly) grant wishes
And does a lot of other weird creative stuff
Actually yeah, the anomaly is 100% jjaro
also distorts time
The wrk just kinda kills people and can’t really be contained in a normal planet
see: the UESC officer who inspected it and got transported forward in time
But it’s hard to tell with what we know
is that the one that got their head gooped
no
different one
that guy was nucal
the one i talked about is post colony collapse
A wrk being around feels like something above the runner shells to deal with imo
durandal and the security officer didnt even really deal with it
they just made it not escape
It is
We’re probably/hopefully in the surviving timeline
Yeah they basically just sidestep that timeline
considering the compiler, the thing that's only just above a pfhor soldier, gives runners a considerable run (ha) for their money
we are nowhere near good enough for half the things the pfhor have
yet alone the security officer/another battleroid
This would make a lot of sense to me. What if Tau Ceti is their home world?
I suspect that the compiler we fought centuries later was also more badass than the ones in the first game
while you were inventing shell technology, the compiler studied the blade
I feel like the jjaro were probably closer to the pfhor homeworld due to that being where most of their tech ended up
next area has the compiler2 and it puppets all the corpses of the dead runners in cryo
the big flying fat fuck from 2 and infinity
either that or a proper UESC boss
never change traxus
nucaloric product 594 - the inhalable pretzel
Definitely. Why would it remain static if it could improve itself?
I find it interesting that there’s ticks in that fight, too. Think they have something to do with the S’pht?
Or… are the ticks… THE JJARO?!
I was thinking that but I can find no connection except that Ticks were one of the first local fauna to respond to the contagion
Estrogen will make me girl
The ticks were the masterminds the whole time…
It’s also kinda funny how I had a dire game where despite running around the entire map we had literally 0 pvp
had one of those the other day, felt very weird
it's like what, 8 other people in solo?
I heard gunfire maybe once
I died at Dire Marsh
I feel like a lot of people in solo are trying to avoid other runners more than get into fights, it’s too risky.
with a purple key
I love fighting
all because I got jumped by a green shield
I hope I don’t lose everything in the Lose Everything Swamp.
So, we have lose everything swamp
lose everything factory
Outpost and Perimeter are?
Denver Airport and Waffle House Parking Lot.
(Hauler is the Waffle House itself.)
Yeah shields only matter if they’re free kit or you’re prepared for the fight
ngl hauler doesn’t feel very Waffle House
I get in so many fights in there.
Shields matter when getting jumped assuming you can react and aim in response, if you can't do either when you suddenly take damage you're likely to not survive yeah
The waffle house for me is [anywhere an exit spawns] but my low level "blue stuff is rare" ass likes it that way
I found my first thermal scope right before going to work today and I'm prepared to see it immediately vanish when I try to use it
I got a deal where it was like green wire for thermal scope
So I bought like 12 of them
Ngl if rook could have friends I'd probably always run it lol
Sometimes you can befriend other rooks.
It’d be really funny if you were able to talk around like six Rooks to work together. Not going to happen, but it would be funny.
Grouped up Rooks are fun to fight
[various robot noises]
saw a suggestion where you could like, put 5/10 salvage towards an upgrade
instead of buying all of an upgrade at once
which makes sense imo
would save me a lot of storage space
Paying in installments of salvage would be nice.
Would it? Salvage stacks very deeply
Cooperate?
Also if anyone was running assassin this morning and a rook yelled "no stop I'm a level one goblin" right before you stabbed him that was me
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its funny how im so used to very high detail games
or very stylized
crazy little idea
bringing a thermal and a backup sight to hotswap
I have another game to add to that pile.
Oh wait no, I'm gonna have to retract.
The game, Metal Eden, uses some AI.
partially AI VA stuff
Ye I bought it and plan to check it out so I can add it to the list of pve extraction shooters
For style points?
Custom shell inspired by Saati from Paladins, can create miniature mirror/gravitational anomalies that when shot, shoots the nearby closest enemy player for reduced damage. Can overload pistol type weapons to mag dump akin to fanning a revolver at the cost of overloading heat. Landing precision damage with non sniper rifles give them deteriorating energy for dive style movement
Or idk, just timing on reloads
spotter // sniper shell...
even better if they SOMEHOW add 1x scopes
"Can equip a custom 1x scope onto precision and sniper weapons. This scope removes all weather from its reticle"
I don’t have a specific look in mind but I think a trapper archetype would be cool
if the shell had a look id want them to be the "arsenal bird" archetype, focused entirely on very very aggressive area denial
"grenade at your cover"
"sorry the midrange is MINE"
really annoying pos of a frame
kit so unhinged nobody runs them (but they're kinda really strong)
I saw a couple "runnersonas" on tumblr even if that's not what you're asking about in particular
The idea of runnersonas delights me
Also unfortunately as far as build goes I'd make something entirely too close to recon to merit a new class probably
Just with more crab grenades
Mayne replace the scan pulse with having one of those crows that freak out when you get too close that does a sweep and give you a live feed because I'm a thematic little creature
Just gimme MCTT recon
what was that like
I’ve given my spiel a couple times but it’s fun:
- live tracking on enemies in range and LoS during prime ability
- enemies cannot see pings for prime ability
- prime discriminates between runners and UESC
- drone has a brain which works
why did they nerf the brain lmao
live tracking is nasty though, lmao
thank god theres no wallbangs'
It was stupid good originally and basically sniffed stuff out like a bloodhound with wallhacks
R6 live tracking lion was a fucking monster
Good
Also had really glitchy looking stuttery movement which made it impossible to shoot (so did ticks)
Ticks being glitchy would be cool
turns out in the everything is a wallbang game, "I AM IN YOUR WALLS" is fucking OP
Right now they're just a kind of passive noise annoyance
It wasn’t they basically rubberbanded a lot
also, just a thought
what the fuck is causing the ticks to evolve human-specific toxins
Recon was the shell everyone hated during MCTT
Cause there was no counterplay besides also being recon
And signal jammer but we were all stupid then ok
The Contagion
i forget why the contagion is the way it is
We don’t really know but probably the anomaly
It’s interesting how differently people looked at the shells in the MCTT
Assassin and Recon were the clear top 2 I think
Destroyer was also p good as was Vandal
No one really liked Triage yet
yeah funny how the meta is like
double destroyer + triage
solo assassin
somewhere up there
thief
kinda rare:
vandal
dead:
- recon
Also worth noting Thief was not in the MCTT
well, the double destroyer + triage meta is mostly cuz aim gods LOVE destroyer movement
they use the shield, sure, but i feel like if vandal was buffed you might see vandal / destroyer / triage meta
what would be fun is a destroyer / vandal / recon meta
The metaslave trio in the MCTT such that it was was triage recon pick one
Also Assassin was substantially stronger in the MCTT
(Cloak lasted about 5 seconds longer and CD was about 10 seconds shorter)
The smoke bomb also made a bigger smoke grenade than normal instead of 3 in a row
But I think the current one is better
i've never seen double destroyer
usually it's like
assassin thief pick one
I'm trying to think about what I see most often
Destroyer and triage mostly
I like Recon and Assassin for vibes reasons
In dedicated stacks it's usually destroyer, assassin/thief and triage
Mechanically it's uh
Triage and assassin are the two I almost always see
Honestly I SEE YOU and YOU DON'T SEE ME are just conceptually hilarious to me
i havent touched triage once
it's been mostly thief
i'd play vandal more if she didn't kinda suck
i play a tiny bit of destroyer but i cant use him well and i miss thief's grapple hook like a motherfucker
I refuse to play assassin out of principle and recon is recon
i play triage and rook and thats about it
Triage and rook gang
Listen i love playing the other shells
Sadly what i do is essentially and people prever other roles.
They should make Evil Triage (Masscasualty?) who throws drones which stick to people and drain their health
And when they take negative statuses they get inflicted on everyone with a Hurting Drone as well
i want this but only so the little drone has an evil >:) face even when hiding
if it downs you it does an evil little laugh
I have been rolling around an idea for a Runner OC, but I don't have anything concrete yet.
Really hype to see what Sentinel winds up being, speaking of
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<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for some contract runs here in 10 minutes or so?
yeah
wish I could 
By onoderaissad on Twitter
Anyone else for a third?
I could tag along in a few once I'm done doing the dishes.
I can hop on when my rpg session is done
Not sure when that is though we often run late
Yeah for sure Fang just hop in once you're done
God I wish I was her
I just found out about the Emotional Support Plushie and its lore.
Oh?
😭
yea
the entire lobby hit me with the 1 at a time strat
holy shit a twintap
pulled it off their corpse
I’d blow my shit smooth off if I lost like 3 greens and a blue I can only imagine how it feels to lose all this purple
Oh I can hop on
helluva exfil
<@&1474420814979010821> doing traxus unsactioned hostilities 4/5
Managed to pick up a runner kill with my stupid asshole of a tracker drone tonight call that a win
"Go, my Chudling! Kill!"
and then it runs laps around a toilet for 25 seconds and explodes
It’s so funny
I just wish it ran towards people more reliably
It’s nice to wish for things happening in 6 days…
I believe in Idiot Crab.
I’m so excited for the next patch I’m preemptively playing Recon lol
Oh yeah I've got a loadout expensive enough for Cryo Archive now, so I can run it at minimum two (2) times!
I have RAT confession
When I was in Dire Marsh yesterday, I went to the small building by greenhouse and crouched walk into the alcove of blue pipes.
I did that only because I wanted to wait for everyone else to extract and open a room.
But then a Vandal walked in unaware.
I prefired so many rounds.
🐀‼️
It was shameful I know
This game changes you and makes you into the mist sweatiest, violent seeking goblin ever.
That's gross. That person is gross for doing that.
I’m trying to think which pipe that is now
Okay, I remember that pipe is on the second story of the small building that is adjacent to Greenhouse.
And by the wall with that long exterior pipe.
Mod that replaces the sound of the Recon drone exploding with Pipe Falling.mp3
Oh yeah, I wanted to point out that I got jumped by a Recon drone and I blocked it with my Riot Barricade. I took no damage, but I did overheat. I thought that was strange.
I just kinda figured it'd be all or nothing.
Ahh that little room
Same it is odd
The drone I think basically explodes with the same effect as a heat grenade
Overheats and does a lengthy DoT
Yeah. The riot barricade must not block status effect stuff like that, just damage.
Interesting to know, if that's the case.
In many ways.
I got a frag grenade codex entry with it
That's....
huh
That Rook we came across had some pretty awful luck.
He just walked around a corner and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRolhuX-Enw
been grinding this fucking mission and its painnnnnnnnnnnn
I need to take a break
not tilting but starting to get chest pains from the constant uphill battles of trio fill
like I need easier access to other weapons to meme with them since weapon choice isn't mattering much anyways rn
Charter in the back of my mind when a downed rook crawls into the exfil circle: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/883705851922219038/1491710040971677727/reminder.mp4?ex=69d8aebc&is=69d75d3c&hm=146c1a5b5d229a552f1c7cf85f1d2d0a44307a37542b57098dc848943521dfe9&
Also speaking of rooks
(@rasteridiot)
@cinder hare
I realize my issues with queuing rn into trio fills is I need to expect to lose all my gear and while gear doesn't bother me so much, losing meds is painful because it feels like meds are harder to come by than gear 
For green meds at least there are really good rotating barters for them
I am not sure how to get a lot of blue meds though
I have about 60 of each for the greens mostly on the back of the 1 sparkleaf for 3 barters
The best way I've gotten blue meds is wiping lobbies on ranked and taking all 8 stacks back to my vault
Green meds feel like they go quicker for me, though I think that’s probably because if I’m bringing blue meds I’m also bringing a full kit that means I can handle fights better.
And yeah, blue meds are abundant from the dead in cryo as well which is where I got a lot of mine
The burn rate for green heals (less shields) is also quite high since you might need 2-3 to get back to full
If only, I'm getting terrible rng with trio fill where I either take free kit and nobody does, or I take gear and then the randoms don't
I still think those should have bigger stacks in your backpack vs the blue heals
It also made me realize how much I get away with on free kits
Doesn’t make sense to me why I only need one stack of blue heals and shields, where as if I’m taking green, I need two stacks of each
Some of my best runs are on free kits
I’m honestly trying to figure out how to cultivate free kit mindset with a good kit lol
I can kind of do it
Only issue I'm running into now is wanting cores/implants and not having vault space to save them
I get too confident about situations I can handle because I’ve got good gear
Same honestly
That's hit or miss for me
I think I’m the opposite though, I think having good gear makes me hesitate because I don’t wanna lose it
I'm having to accept the fact I might lose fights now because I can no longer safely eliminate people with knife
So now I'm trying to calculate a 2nd gun for actually securing an elimination
Maybe that’s just because Cryo archive beat into my head that if you see a bubble shield, there’s someone with a shotgun inside
And then I just get shot by 3 snipers from a trio stack anyways
The snipers are so ridiculous
Is that thing good? I haven’t been able to wrap my head around it
Even if I swapped it for a railgun on my most recent one and actually managed to get a kill lol
Eh
Stryder?
Yeah it’s good
It's worse than snipers but better than most auto options for longer ranged fights
Minus like
M77
It’s basically the bullet version of the Lookout but the fire rate is a touch faster
But at this point I expect they'll nerf m77
You can contest snipers with it if you get the first shot
More like first 2 but
It shoots pretty fast
Yeah the usual thing with snipers
Is 1v1 you can contest them with any further range gun, it's 100% on them to jiggle peek correctly
I feel like I always default to the volley rifle
First shot advantage is always strong
But that could also be because burst weapons in bungie games have always felt good
Yeah you can contest snipers with volley just not at furthest range like you can with things like the strider or m77
Volley is good
Stryder is kind of comparable but has one main advantage
It’s probably top 3 for ammo efficiency
I like volley cause it's a good ease of access gun, I just don't pick it up cause usually the burst fire is slower than me just lasering people with another gun like the overrun
Plus it's bungie
So unlikely volley would get nerfed even if it becomes more on the op side somehow
🙄
I’ve yet to see that one but it’s funky
Wut? Did they nerf it in d2? I remember playing d2 and seeing people with burst like the classic halo 3 br
But then again d2 I saw handcannons more
It also being a silencer is something I didn’t expect
And also magnetism was playing a part in a lot of the way stuff worked that I remember being a bit confused
I have no interest in hearing complaints about balance problems which only maybe hypothetically exist in the future
It’s dumb
That's a balance problem?
“If it’s OP they won’t nerf it cause Bungie”
Yeah, certain guns become OP, isn't that how most meta develops overtime as they make changes?
This isn’t a good conversation for you to be having
Ah sorry, can I move it to dms so I understand better or should I just drop it?
Like if that's sounding like a complaint that's 100% on me, I'm not intending it to be that way
DMs are fine
Thank you
, and again, sorry
I’ve gotten an appreciation for the V11. Nice pistol, I like it.
I like everything about that gun except the screen real estate it eats up when you sprint
Yeah, that’s a bit much.
My favorite thing about the punch is the little wings that pop out when it starts to overheat
It's honestly one of the better representations for "the gun is overheating" I've seen in awhile
If there’s one thing that I can say consistently about the guns in Marathon, it’s that they’re all very fun visually if nothing else.
I like how nearly-expended volt cells come out of the magazine slot looking burnt on volt weapons
Yeah, they’re visually fucked up.
Ye
I also like how volt weapons reload like a VCR.
That’s my favorite bit really, that it feels like you’re throwing in a cassette tape to fuck some shit up
That makes me think the ammo backpack is like a cassette rewinder. Like you chuck your volt weapon in it and the backpack starts rewinding the cassette tape volt cells for you
Analogue futurism all the way
How quickly does an ammo backpack recharge them anyway?
I’ve actually never really checked haha
I’ve not used it often enough to say with authority tbh
I am enjoying doing rook runs and announcing to players that I am a friend robot
It doesn't work
But it allows me to be funny
The problem is like probably the majority of rooks are just little guys getting their loot and running
And there’s a minority of sadistic demon rooks who want to 1v3 wipe you and lure you into claymore mazes
"Hello human would you like to partake in the consumption of brand name beverages" (they open fire)
It's very funny
Level One Goblin
I've used that line yeah
Just realized like a day later that a squad we wiped last time had been on the run from another squad and backed into us on our rotation and felt a little bad
We probably didn’t have to fight
They did shoot first though
(I think we also wiped the squad chasing them, or maybe a random 3rd party who ran into the shit zone lol)
The funniest time I did get a friend but the thief in his party was like
Followed me into a room and shanked me it was legitimately hilarious
I heard the first guy like "Woah hey why did you do that" and I did the Sorry callout right before I got finished (I don't know if they can hear that)
Dramatic storytelling lol
Lmao
I think the last rook we saw got lit up so fast we only figured out it was a rook after
I’ve run into 1 too many rooks who are deceptive about being chill right up until you’re in wstr range.
Best to remove the ambiguity from the situation.
That's why I didn't take it personally yeah
It's definitely taking a risk trusting a funny robot
A little while back I was rushing the final exfil with some folks in here and we decided to just let the Rooks into the circle too.
I like when people do that
I’ve watched that happen then the rook drops a claymore last second
There’s no point in fighting at that stage. You’re only risking your own loot for no gain.
If you hear one talking like an idiot and asking about gunmetal that is probably me
He's a character at this point
Ok but hear me out
"Don't worry, I can prove I am a friend I enjoy the correct sports teams and branded alcoholic beverages" your trusted neighborhood Tony rook
Rooks don’t get Arachne xp.
No but the squad killing him does
They don’t?
I think as Rook you ONLY get loot and generic season exp
Don't quote me tho I'm not smart
I’d like to apologize to the random trios I jumpscared and 1-1 traded I thought I was getting Arachne progression out of it
I do it for the next rook that runs into them. If one rook gets their loot then next time maybe I'll be the rook that gets the loot
you get cyac xp for extracting
But tbf I also don't attack teams that are friendly
They gotta say it tho otherwise I'll pop up from the below side areas on the UESC pinwheel breach and gun them down
Killed 2 teams that way now as rook
they changed it in one of their early updates (assuming I'm not misunderstanding myself tbf)
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_0_0_4
Rook will now receive the same Faction reputation bonus from all sources that solo players receive*
Now uhh
Hopefully when the April 14th update drops
With that common item option or w/e. It can also be shared to and between rooks
Can't post direct link cause it was from Ziegler on the bad site but these were the lines about it
- SECRET: A new item to give a more merciful option between crews.```
So would be interesting to see more crews adopt rooks with this
I am real curious about these yeah
It also would help me feel less bad when I suddenly gun down a rook because I think they're a runner and not just another rook inside pinwheel
Also was funny yesterday, a rook that I inadvertently prevented from getting into pinwheel from one side kept trying to shoot me and not trigger the claymore I put down, another rook climbs up on the other side and gets shot at and is like, "hey! no. Nuh-uh" and then I voice and like, "yo I'm sitting out here myself and the rook in the other vent just shot and you and Idk why cause like, we're all rooks here" and then finally the rook who kept shooting chilled out before we moved into pinwheel to fight the squad
Rook politics are so confusing haha
Its def very sudden when it's just 1 other rook but if it's more than that most rooks go, "oh everyone is chill"
I even got to help 3 of us by running and snagging a master key in the last 3 minutes to open the pinnacle room
I just realized
Cw: cheeseburger
I ordered and had some of these last year
I was prepping for marathon without even realizing it
What… is that?
Texas Burger Space Food Beef Cheeseburger Russian Astronaut Food MRE Hiking Rations Survival Freeze Dried Food Camping Tube 115 Gr (4.05 Oz)
okay so i now understand that rooks who kill other rooks in exfil are just losers
got it
there's not even any benefit to it
Edible paste basically
they're just losers
also this stuff is rancid
i've had burger paste and it is
:(
I got 3 flavors and I only liked the French fries one
Huh
also rooks dont appear in the recently played list
They don't?
Hopefully they fix that for when prox chat is more easily reportable
Haven't had a rook be toxic in prox chat myself but I know the possibility exists
There’s a NuCaloric SQZ BEEF tube as well which is even more similar
See I would have thought plant byproduct would be more sustainable than just freezing cows
But also tbf
I do get that on a new planet you can't guarantee things to have edible plants
but there's entire cryo preserved cows
I know but I'm just surprised it's like cows and not like, chickens or something
I suspect the SQZ BEEF is made of cow about the same amount as the drinkable burger is
no
Tick milk is a marketing term for tick uh derived protein shake
Someone make me a YOU WOULDN'T VAPE A HOT DOG hat
Quoting tranley cutebrick (@treegirl.it.com)
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BREAKING: NuCaloric announces Vapable Hot Dog after disrupting snack food market with last year's Drinkable Cheeseburger.
**❤️ 57 **
Taking a huge hit off of this and saying “dot hog” as I cough up a lung and a cloud of pinkish vapor.
Just another runner looking at you through the thermal sights of their gun and seeing the vape cloud going, "Hell yeah 😎 "
I read that in the Rook voice.
"Real meat gets stuck in your teeth" yeah the lore stuff goes hard
<@&1474420814979010821> Anyone up for a few afternoon runs?
I can’t believe I’ve never even seen one of these lol
darsh valuable
so
I have only ever found:
- one bingus prototype
- one history for younger readers
- one tilk
- anchorite provisions, at least 4
on perimeter i've found every valuable at least once
2 grievance logs, plenty of bonsai trees, 1 propietary asset, 5 drone cartridges, 1 copy of b. strauss on AI, plenty of burgers, 1 evidence folder and 3 out of 4 kuzmin I logs
as for outpost i've found everything except TRUTHWORM.EXE files
and severed twins
The emotional support plushie I don't find that often either
But I do know I've gotten them out of random boxes
I think I’ve found a decent number of the other ones but no plushies for whatever reason
Yeah I've found most everything else but no plushies
They might be in specific boxes
I have found one plushie
I think I found two during the server slam somehow tho 😅
What's that one
david martinez because
i think this is the least sadistic drandal contract i've seen so far
compared to "find my secret hatch" or "kill 100 UESC"
the thief jacket is pretty drippy in general
they keep showing her with sleeves on in the cinematics
let us put our sleeves down, bungo
That's a nice skin
Honestly if assassin ever got a full face mask skin I would slam my wallet down on that
I love full face covers
Especially with hoods
Like imagine some glossy black face shield under the hood with one of them goofy holographic light patterns on it
destroyer cyber red has his faceplate covered up
Oh I dig that
vandal has a half mask on her sphtcide skin
and thief has an open face balaclava on hers
Listen I'm a simple man Ruiner understood me on a spiritual level