def more efficient overall thoufh
#Marathon
cosmic flame
grave pebble
ah ok, i guess being able to literally triple stuff like energy amps would be a bit silly
Say, can you share a self-revive via shareware too? Like if you're down and an ally is downed with a heal drone on em?
grave pebble
o-ho
cosmic flame
YOU CAN SELF RES SHAREWARE
ITS INSANE
last night i clutched up with @pale flare because i gave her my self rez via drone
pale flare
ITS INSANE
oh actually I was self-rezzing at the same time, but I don't actually know which happened first?
cosmic flame
i think i was pretty early on it
grave pebble
can you use a self res even if you're not downed? Normally that would be a waste, but if it gives triage an alternate way to res at a distance that would be pretty nuts
pale flare
I don't think so. The prompt only appears when you're down
grave pebble
ik you can use patch kits at full health
cosmic flame
idt its even usable from the med menu
mossy bridge
had a crazy outpost run
much schmoney
Oh Man
OH NO
OH FUCK NO
OH NO NO NO NO
patent thicket
jumping up and down excitedly
||W'RKNCACNTER MENTION!||
Wait no, I read the last one first nevermind.
...Is it the ||W'rkncacnter?||
grave pebble
Wait no, I read the last one first nevermind.
the last one is, first one sounds like the ||S'pht||
twin rain
||Our Crimson Cloaks are pretty clearly the Compilers. To call them Harbingers of the wrkncacntr is a little misguided? But it wouldn't be the first cult that was misguided.||
grave pebble
||I don't think they necessarily worship the work'counters , but they clearly appear to have some reverence for the S'pht||
patent thicket
||The S'pht homeworld was orbiting a star that had a/the (unclear which) W'rkncacnter in it.||
grave pebble
||The S'pht homeworld was orbiting a star that had a/the (unclear which) W'rknca...
||it does sound to me like the colonists were inducted into the S'pht religion, which is crazy, because it would basically require you to believe in your own non-sapience, right?||
cinder hare
it's "dying when i get good loot" fear
grave pebble
||Cause humanity was never uplifted by the Jjaro and they're not inherently a cybernetic species||
unless they retcon that ig. it does make the timeline even fuckier though
||Cause this would have to be after the S'pht liberation, which would put it.....at least halfway through Marathon 2 I suppose?||
cinder hare
sand sluice
they only appear on dire marsh, you need anti virus consumables to do them, mida gives upgrades which give 40 seconds of time inside them per upgrade.
You can do them up to 3 times per raid, you have to go find a key, then go to the box causing the lockdown, grab the drive off the floor, then you start a 3 wave fight against usec which unlocks the box, you can keep the lockdown going during this or turn it off. every time you go to the lockdown zones the rewards get better, so 1st in the raid is passable, 2nd is slightly better, 3rd box is best and is the most worth
additionally, once you have the key and box you can get it out of the box again and just take it to the next zone and insta start the fight, you don't have to find the key again
final onyx
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone have time for a few runs?
final onyx
not worth it unless you already have all the upgrades you could spent it on
cinder hare
not worth it unless you already have all the upgrades you could spent it on
nah
i mean yeah tbh synapse cubes rare asf
but at the same time this is an insane combo
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone have time for a few runs?
join us
chilly pebble
Trying to get reclaimed biostripping and it's suffering
final onyx
if you want a specific piece of salvage, the game will deny it to you
chilly pebble
I noticed
twin rain
the desire sensor is back
cosmic flame
she... she reclaim my... she stripping til i re... sh...
wintry shuttle
Heh
neat nest
<@&1474420814979010821> I'm about ready for more runs, anyone free?
twin rain
ya
neat nest
(I will need a few mins)
twin rain
(same)
neat nest
Still looking for 1
cinder hare
im out for today
"sponsored kit"
ngl the suggestion of "just keep using what you loot" without ever thinking to vault it for one sec helps a lot
i only vault what i absolutely wont use or dont need now
and i went from gray to green to dead to green (from previous run) to full blues
oh my god i fucking love rat pack
this shit is amazing
obsidian latch
chilly pebble
really liking the retaliation
grave pebble
Still looking for 1
still looking?
neat nest
full now
grave pebble
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone running?
chilly pebble
7/10 finishers, good place to leave for the night
grave pebble
gotta stop assuming that someone is good at the game just cause they're good at the shooting
joined a rando, one teammate basically 1v3d two squads and res'd us, so i was just following them like a lost puppy the whole game
they fuck off to a random poi and end up costing us the final exfil
cinder hare
I wonder what the matchmaking is for Marathon
Skill-based? Exfil%?
I don’t think it’s loadout-based
I’ve had too many runs full of purples while we were on free kits
I’d imagine something like lightly weighted by skill + slightly more heavily loadout would work
neat nest
long ago bungie mentioned it was by runner level
no idea if that's it or if that's still true
cinder hare
Runner level feels wrong somehow
I’m level like, 45 and I’m probably not as good as many of the level 20s
neat nest
lol had a stupid run
going for one of the later nucals
ran into a glitch also doing it
lost and ran off
got a safe and fucked off with cats
grave pebble
Skill-based? Exfil%?
i want to say level based but my last 2 perimeter runs i matched with level 70s-80s, so i think there are multiple factors
it definitely feels like it's quest-based to an extent, the game tries to match people with similar pois up i want to say
echo scroll
i didnt go in with anything purple
grave pebble
<@&1474420814979010821> run or three?
chrome rapids
Id be down
grave pebble
in voice, bungie is Sunn Bro#3165 , just going to the bathroom
cinder hare
zero to hero rat solo runs are fun
you can hide really well in hauler
exfils are common there
just camp it
cinder hare
Died to a destroyer appearing out of nowhere while I stabbed a different thief to death
grave pebble
this is definitely a 'leave your squad for dead' type haul
both of them got downed, but one of them managed to smoke the extract and i just snuck out lol
sand sluice
yeah if extract is popped and you don't think you can 1v3 just leave
grave pebble
we all went in with sponkits so we absolutely ruined purple's day here
grave pebble
where do you even find purple salvage in perimeter btw? I thought that would only be dire marsh and above
cinder hare
Just get lucky, mostly
sand sluice
you can get prestige loot in any container
#1360700632998215701 message
look here for example
sand sluice
they need to like
rebalance the quests or something
why are 90% of the quests on dire marsh
like it feels rough cause it's an end-game map with the quests but with non end-game loot like outpost
cinder hare
i kinda agree yeah
outpost is my favorite map
it's excellent honestly
its small enough to make for fast rotations
deadly and nicely vertical without being excessive
ivory laurel
Was gonna ask "what about the rest of Outpost?"
cinder hare
good sightlines and plenty of outdoor movement while having lots of tight spaces
sand sluice
I'm assuming they're going to do like a new map or something every season
cause holy shit everything feels frontloaded on dire marsh
cinder hare
or modifications to a map
sand sluice
I'm gonna lose my mind doing dire marsh all the time
cinder hare
but also, at some point i hope we get a tarkov/drg style map selection if we get more maps
something like the tauceti.world map but cooler, basically
sand sluice
that or give us new enemy designs
cinder hare
i love the wraith warden
sand sluice
like have space wolves show in and fuck up everybody's shit
cinder hare
we're gonna fight pfhor or some shit at some point
obsidian latch
I need to start doing Rook runs
Hopefully run into others
Rooks together strong
ivory laurel
Rooks alone survive
grave pebble
i did about 3 rook runs today and 80% of the other rooks i ran into were friendly
i feel like the rook population is undergoing ethnogenesis
grave pebble
not by default
they scan as enemies and you have to prox chat to talk to each other
cinder hare
i mean by community standards
grave pebble
ahh right
cinder hare
i want a pve game similar to marathon/tarkov
preferably more marathon
but like, a game with decently good movement, that roguelite feeling, and them tough bots
... witchfire?
grave pebble
i always got the impression that witchfire was more of a destiny/borderlands-like
twin rain
borderlands is more of an RPG shooter with levelling, skill trees, etc. has a dungeon/raid type endgame. the humour can be pretty grating. but some of the mechanics are very unique and fun
cinder hare
mmm
sand sluice
witchfire is more boomer shooter-y
sand sluice
preferably more marathon
halo
cinder hare
i like ultrakill but speedrunner brain makes me not like playing it that much
because im always too slow feeling
sand sluice
oh you want an extraction shooter>?
unfortunately very few exist that are sci-fy
only ones atm I believe are tarkov and marathon
grave pebble
i guess deep rock galactic is the closest thing i can think of to a sci fi pve-only extraction shooter? A lot of the missions are pretty freeform
cinder hare
doesnt need to be scifi
sand sluice
and tarkov is less sci-fy and more milsim with sci-fy elements
cinder hare
moreso, needs to feel like how marathon feels
twin rain
i guess deep rock galactic is the closest thing i can think of to a sci fi pve-o...
or like, GTFO
sand sluice
#video-game-discussion message
this is my post on like, pve extraction shooters
I would honestly say maybe zero sievert if you want slower movement
but it's top down
but it also has sci-fy 100%
however
zs has no melee for you
so melee enemies will jump you literally
cinder hare
top down 
sand sluice
yeah you're in the same boat I am generally speaking
first person/3rd person pve is still largely getting off the ground
with my best recs being like
mossy bridge
or like, GTFO
I had the thought of “wow stealth hasn’t been this essential since GTFO”
sand sluice
Incursion Red River, Grayzone Warfare (not really an extraction shooter but it's close enough if you consider DRG an extraction shooter)
issue is like
grave pebble
arc raiders is THE pve extraction shooter though, right? It has pvp but it aggressively matchmakes pvpers into their own queues
sand sluice
none of them are gonna have bungie-like enemies that tokyo drift on you
cinder hare
and it just really isnt an "extraction"
i dont play arc out of principles
fuck AI
its also ugly as shit imo, but thats very imo
sand sluice
arc raiders is THE pve extraction shooter though, right? It has pvp but it aggre...
I disclude AI slop games from my list, there's a MUCH better indie game that uses AI voices that would take the place over arc raiders that is one of the better games I've played in the last five years
but the devs basically were like "We didn't earn enough money to pay for voices and we're indie" and I was like "well can't rec that game then"
anyways yeah not super easy cause like my top choices for PVE solo extraciton shooters are gonna be like
Incursion Red River (1st), Sulfer, Project Silverfish (more stalker like than an extraction shooter), Zero Sievert (top down), Witchfire, and Escape from Duckov
Forever Winter is the only one I don't rec fully but that's more cause I'm going to revisit it at some point
and I do recommend it if you think the vision is neat
mossy bridge
I disclude AI slop games from my list, there's a MUCH better indie game that use...
They’re planning on removing it
Absolutely voicemogged by the goat gantry
sand sluice
ye once the AI gen label no longer on the store page I can rec arc raiders for very casual focused (with the caveat they might still be using AI voices and I can't confirm that but that's up to the person to decide)
like Active Matter doesn't list it on their store page (for some goofy reason)
but then it's on like their official website
and I'm suspect it's cause of gaijin being the publisher
oh
@cinder hare there's also the division
I have no idea how the game is
cinder hare
mmm
sand sluice
I also don't know if it's actual full proper extraction shooter and not just mmo-shooter
cinder hare
ngl i want Marathon's TTK to be balanced to be closer to like, V66 levels overall
it's a very satisfying TTK
it's fast but it gives time to react, time to play around it
split apex
I've honestly been brought around on the relatively fast TTK because it gives more of a chance to people with middling gear; it emphasises flanks and good positioning vs higher TTK being about better aim
grave pebble
from what i hear, the division has an extraction-like gamemode, but that's the one with pvp enabled
sand sluice
I think current ttk is largely fine in marathon
cinder hare
I've honestly been brought around on the relatively fast TTK because it gives mo...
yeah there's just some guns being too fast
sand sluice
it's weirdly enough reactable for the most part
sand sluice
yeah there's just *some* guns being too fast
yeah but that's more an econ issue than a ttk issue tbf
cinder hare
the V66 feels incredibly perfect
grave pebble
it's weirdly enough reactable for the most part
assuming you're not caught fully with your pants down, yeah
sand sluice
like if you couldn't get the wstr and longshot off every other goober usec you probably wouldn't feel it as much
cinder hare
yeah its heavily longshot + WSTR being problems
grave pebble
a sniper and a shotgun being oppressive in a bungie game? Say it ain't so
cinder hare
imo getting shot at should knock you outta the thing you're looting
sometimes i try to react but cant cuz im still in the menu
sand sluice
- knock you off terminals
cinder hare
yeahhhhhh
cinder hare
deserved.
sand sluice
at least for terminals give the option to disengage
cinder hare
clear them out.
grave pebble
yeah there's been times when i've fully committed to quest terminals even when i knew i was going to die shortly
sand sluice
clear them out.
I do not want assassin buffed further thank you
cinder hare
i think that plus some adjustments to some weapons would help
sand sluice
if they want to nerf assassin so they can't interact with things freely while cloaked then I'd be more okay with being force knocked off interactions
I just want to choose on the terminals cause omg they last so long and at least let me decide
sand sluice
looting feels a bit delayed on closing the window it's very silly
sand sluice
yeah I've def been there
late geyser
Man imagine each season wipe is ||the wrkncanter popping out the sun||
mossy bridge
maybe we all just decide to cash out at the exact same time
and then get mugged and lose it all
And then have to come back to mercenary work
grave pebble
Yeah the easy assumption is that it's loan repayment day for all of our shells
sand sluice
Got the drone conveyance request in like 30 seconds
made it to drone wing, had no shields as I cleared the entire pinwheel area from the sponsored kit
then on final exfil I waited because someone did the only other entrance into pinwheel, saw him enter the final circle, killed him with the shotgun, got the finisher, then looted his shield and the neural insulation he found (I found one earlier so I got 2)
assassin players lose again
sand sluice
mossy bridge
this is one of the few games where i just. take screenshots of the game
because it's that cool looking
sand sluice
Yeah it's hard to appreciate the cool environment but if you get a moment to chill it's nice to just appreciate the scenery
mossy bridge
my collection
- the mural under ai research
- the overgrown corpse
- the mass grave by quarantine
- Thank God, it's you!
- the overgrown commander
- cup :)
- cryostasis cow
- the guy from the trailer
- IT'S THE SHIP!!!!!!!!!!!
i wonder if assimilated bobs will come back
vacuum bobs and regular bobs too
patent thicket
FROG BLAST THE VENT CORE!
late geyser
me: oh boy i'll do a solo run to farm some resources-
marathon: "downtime in 5 minutes"
sand sluice
Oh I misunderstood the timing hmm
placid oxide
Played with a buddy last night who had just bought the game and he kept calling destroyer shell Garnet and I can’t unsee it
Also looks like all but 1 puzzle for the Preservation puzzle is solved
sand sluice
Jfc Bungie cooked with the dynamic map events from other players doing their quests (Mida contract spoilers)
neat nest
Oh is that connected to a contract?
late geyser
Think Chuckle, Fastnuts-
I'm trying to get my squads to recognize engaging early means we have to sprint to catch up but
sand sluice
Oh is that connected to a contract?
Mida has been having me do a bunch of shit yeah.
Someone commented that it specifically
||requires getting in the command wing, getting to the end, hijacking it, then defending it while the broadcast happens||
neat nest
Ah cool
obsidian latch
Honestly half the reason I’ve done triage for the majority of my runs is because he’s just such a damn good utility
Like drones help so much
neat nest
Triage is good as hell
late geyser
I 1) need to use his emp more and 2) only just found out the bit recharges shields
obsidian latch
I want to play more of the other shells but like goddamn is it so useful to have a triage on the team
tawdry sequoia
Improved the overall legibility of the Revive prompt.
Consumables, Ammo, Salvage, and Grenades now have larger stack sizes in the Vault.
Added filter tabs for keys and backpacks.
neat nest
Hopefully this means I can play Dire without taking out half the lobby again
chilly pebble
Knife
Knife cosmetics will no longer unequip after failing to exfil.
neat nest
I had a genuine tilter of a run where I killed 4 runners working on that fucking MIDA quest
chilly pebble
Oh that's why I didn't notice that bug :v
tawdry sequoia
Drag & Drop can now be used to remove weapon mods from weapons.
Dragging a mod attached to a weapon into the backpack or Vault will now remove the mod and place it into that inventory rather than moving the entire weapon
hell yeaaaaaaaaah
neat nest
And the died to a UESC ghost commander FUCK
neat nest
> Drag & Drop can now be used to remove weapon mods from weapons.
>
> Drag...
So happy for this
Also funny way to learn that suppressors had more effects than just making your shooting quiet
tawdry sequoia
I think I ran into one so far
tawdry sequoia
no news on claymore drone yet
neat nest
(Thief drone could steal your shit while you were locked into the exfil animation)
Very happy for the wstr nerfs too
neat nest
no news on claymore drone yet
Claymore drone is funny and has (theoretical) counterplay at least
tawdry sequoia
it's funny as a clip
in match, I'd be less entertained
I'll try and play some today, was working late yesterday and did not have the life energy to be upright which is not conducive to trying to run quests in dire marsh
neat nest
lol real
tawdry sequoia
I also still have that greenhouse key and a few lockbox keys I wanna use
no point sitting on them
I didn't see anything about the arachne skins in the update, I wonder if they'll be tied to ranked
some sort of bounty system maybe
placid oxide
Maybe! Also not mid-season yet so we shall see
neat nest
Ranked in 4 days
placid oxide
Any more info on it? I must have missed it in patch notes
neat nest
Not sure if this is official info or from the old leak
neat nest
Chuuni as fuck they know what Assassin players like
neat nest
I think I like the system?
Seems pretty good to me yeah
placid oxide
Darth Maul looking head studs
sand sluice
Exfilling with a Temporal Fragment will produce variable rewards depending on your seasonal Runner Level.
Okay but like
It has to be worth more than 2k
Like it flat out needed a buff
neat nest
Yeah
sand sluice
Some people gonna be salty it wasnt available immediately from the arg lol
neat nest
lol we haven’t finished the arg
sand sluice
Inb4 getting to cryo actually requires the keys and no one is going to bring them in raid to do it
neat nest
It’ll probably go live shortly after the arg is cracked
neat nest
Inb4 getting to cryo *actually* requires the keys and no one is going to bring t...
That thankfully doesn’t seem to be the case
Since they mentioned the requirements in the arg somewhere
- season level 25
- all factions unlocked
sand sluice
Yeh
neat nest
I think Marathon keys are secure room keys on it?
sand sluice
I would hope so
neat nest
Damn I’m stoked for Cryo
sand sluice
I am remaining cautiously optimistic
neat nest
Also really happy for this
Now I can pull off thermals and such without it taking so long
Though with the range nerfs thermals now (appropriately) feel more like powerful specialized gear not god sights
sand sluice
I need to see actual purple sights
Cause rn thermals are still the strongest I've seen
neat nest
Thermals are still really good but the range caps make them no longer reliable battlefield scanners
Except for thermal snipers
Oh cool Marton keys are decoding
sand sluice
Oh wait
This weapon deals significantly increased damage against [REDACTED] combatants.```
Im digging this perspective on Marathon’s framing and lore
The corporations have no legal obligations with respect to these contractors, which is just how they like it. You are a bug — barely even human — smashed flat between the palms of a 400-year old handshake agreement with no living survivors, one that everyone involved interprets differently and nobody intends to honor.
You are a debtor with a company mandated gambling compulsion whose job is property damage against the government. You are slowly going crazy and you don’t exist. You are a bloodied shell, drawn to the exfil beacon like a moth to a flame.
Will you take a job with the black bloc terror group MIDA? Yup. Will you follow that up with a contract for Space Walmart? Sure. It’s just a fucking job, man. What do you want from me?
mossy bridge
oh GOD the ranked icons dont appear until you unlock them
im going to have a permanent fucking notification
neat nest
I’ve had one friendly encounter in Marathon, on Perimeter, the game’s “starter” map. My team and I crested a hill and heard another team just in front of us. Evidently, they heard us too, and shouted out from the building they’d entered. We agreed to let a good thing be; we’d pass and they’d let us. Actually, I’ve had dozens of friendly encounters, with all the other runners arbitrarily sorted into my squad. I could conceivably befriend anyone else in the lobby. There’s no inherent quality that marks one runner as friend and another as foe. We all owe money to CyberAcme. In all likelihood, we’re stored on the same server rack. But from the fog of Tau Ceti emerges one near-certainty: there’s no solidarity on a right-to-work planet. So I tend to shoot on sight.
Huh
5,000 smackaroos isn’t too bad
sand sluice
5000 credits per run
Like
Holistically?
And is that sell or buy value?
Cause like
neat nest
Presumably it’s based on the value before runs for sell value
sand sluice
Yeah I'ma like
neat nest
Works out to basically an incomplete/mixed blue loadout usually I feel
sand sluice
Nooooot exactly
Backpacks and shields sell for little
180 for reinforced green, I think 500 for green backpacks?
neat nest
Nooooot exactly
I’m going off of what my loadout value looks like going into runs haha
Most of the credits are in guns and such
sand sluice
What are you taking that costs that much?
neat nest
2 blue-green guns is easily 2-4 k
sand sluice
For me it's like 2ish k but I'll admit I usually don't take the more expensive stuff cause I can do more with less
neat nest
Modded wstr is like 3-3.5k for one example
oak glacier
Yeah modded guns are worth a bunch
sand sluice
Yeah I don't bring in modded wstrs unless I just picked one up which is rare
neat nest
Ok so?
oak glacier
Well that's kinda the point of the value gate
sand sluice
Usually it's just the pocket wstr off the grunts
oak glacier
It makes you bring more expensive stuff
sand sluice
Yeah I'm just thinking of how you can game it
I'm thinking just take greenbackpack full of blue weapon mods
oak glacier
Why not just use blue weapons
sand sluice
Advanced meds exp and also trying to do the least possible for lower risk
mossy bridge
oh hey the ready up screen has footstep noises and you hold your knife now
instead of just fists
swift sluice
May need to factor in other player's kits more with the 5k minimum
oak glacier
Ok well you'll have to risk 5k of gear either way
neat nest
oh hey the ready up screen has footstep noises and you hold your knife now
Oh nice the fists was weird
sand sluice
May need to factor in other player's kits more with the 5k minimum
Yeah I'm thinking about what I know of other players and assuming they'll do similarish stuff depending
Granted
Wstr 2 taps all shields in the game so 
Prob just frontload a wstr with weapon mods and play around that
On the other hand
I'm curious to see how random queue will be
On the flipside can just go farm wardens and bring in their guns
Since their guns default to like 1.8ish k minimum
neat nest
I mean there’s a lot of ways to do it but I don’t think getting 5k for a loadout is terribly onerous or in need of special strategies
It means I kinda do have to retire my brokie playstyle of using cheap shit to squeak through contracts quickly lol
sand sluice
Yeah I'm mainly just trying to think through it cause I'm hedging out against solo assassin players and having to deal with them
neat nest
But I can just do actual resourcing runs ever
twin rain
I kinda wish the ante was a little higher, but I get that people will probably have a quest or two there
sand sluice
Rather than just throw money at the wall to see it evaporate
twin rain
I think 5000 is a good sweet spot for now
neat nest
I think 5k is a pretty good one
There’s absolutely people with crazy vaults who just won’t care but
sand sluice
5k is fine but I actually am not sure any quests will exist for it right now
neat nest
That’ll be the case at any sane value lol
sand sluice
What I feel like it's primarily for gold resource hunting
oak glacier
would be funny if arachne quests required playing ranked
mossy bridge
what arachne quests there's literally a single priority one that's it lmao
neat nest
Once you hit 7 Charter congratulates you which is fun
sand sluice
||it does it again later IIRC, rank 20ish I think?||
sand sluice
I mean there’s a lot of ways to do it but I don’t think getting 5k for a loadout...
Actually another thing
C.OX keys gonna count for value assumingly too
neat nest
Yeah I was thinking about that those aren’t cheap
sand sluice
So yeah do warden farming until you get a key
Then take their gun and loadout into cryo with the key
neat nest
I don’t really think that’s the best way honestly
sand sluice
And you're probably hitting the value
It's unfortunately not cause loot drops from them kinda weak compared to just outpost sponsored kit spam
neat nest
I mean it doesn’t need to be sponsored #crediblebutinexpensivekitspam
sand sluice
Wdym? I meant farming outpost with sponsored kit for gear upgrade 
Cause then with that you can just go into cryo with those weapon lockers in pinwheel
I also like how it's 5k which is 1k above the uhhh
Deluxe sponsored kits
Or w/e the green ones are called
Actually those are 0 sell so idk
mossy bridge
please can we just fucking remove "and exfil" from every contract
at least let me use a fucking dcon
cinder hare
5k is barely a requirement for Cryo lmao
sand sluice
It's a painful one for me
But to be entirely fair
That's because assassins keep tilting me
mossy bridge
i've just started blocking anyone who plays assassin
neat nest
I play assassin in solos often so for me it’s mostly “that’s tradecraft huh” if I get dirty tricked
mossy bridge
maybe one day i can get a nice lobby without one
sand sluice
Even if they don't win they tilt me cause enemy aggro is already goofy af without their stealth breaking it even further
neat nest
I will also dirty trick as many people as possible on the way
sand sluice
Like sure USEC can wallhack me, whatever, but they completely ignore assassins every time even if an assassin shoots and I'm like, "the fuck"
And to be clear
mossy bridge
would the game be any worse off without assassin
neat nest
Yeah their “aggro time” and our restealth time are similar so you can mix it up near bots pretty well during camo
mossy bridge
it's either comically obvious or perfect stealth
neat nest
I will say most of my dirty trick kills just come from slow play not camo
Even if I did walk up behind a Destroyer who solo cleared a purple box with a wstr last run
It was honest stealth I was just walking!
oak glacier
i killed a purple shield guy with a punch cause i caught him looting and he didnt spot me
i was just hiding in a corner as thief
sand sluice
I got nothing because I know stealth is binary af but I swear it isn't fully consistent
I've had too many times I hear footsteps and there's nothing visible before they already swing and other times I can see the outline
And again I think I more just tilt cause I get wallhacked by the USEC
oak glacier
wallhacked?
mossy bridge
every fucking tom dick and harry appears from the heavens every time i finish run/hide 3
shot through cover
cinder hare
Anyone wanna try out Cryo in like an hour
mossy bridge
it's not even out yet
oak glacier
its not out yet
cinder hare
Wait
sand sluice
wallhacked?
They detect me and aggro me through walls, it happens to other players too and has gotten me killed because it happened to other players cause I got misinfo
cinder hare
I thought patch notes were out
sand sluice
And like again
oak glacier
the patch is out
cinder hare
Oh
oak glacier
cryo is just not unlocked
neat nest
Preservation is probably the last puzzle layer and the ARG soldiers are working on the final puzzle there
So plausibly Cryo by tomorrow
sand sluice
If it happens all the time it doesn't bother me but then assassin rolls around and their cloak breaks the usec aggro even more and I'm like, "bruh plz"
Like I think
What's supposedly happening
Is USEC can hear runners but can't hear assassin cloaked
neat nest
The only truly genuinely tilting thing which has happened to me in Marathon was trying to shoot a UESC recruit and hitting the perfectly cloaked Ghost Commander standing in front of him and then freaking out and dying to it because I was so surprised
sand sluice
Ive had a lot of smaller tilt things but in general the only things that have upset me have primarily been weird cloak situations with assassin
mossy bridge
i've gotten so fucking mad at so many things in this game it is unreal
sand sluice
Like even dying because I rush into an assassin cloak and they wild swing melee I can go, "yeah that's on me"
neat nest
Assassin cloak is like smoke aiui, it just hard drops bot aggro
mossy bridge
i just cannot accept that things are my fault sometimes im always "oh fuck you" and "fuck off" when i die
sand sluice
But when an assassin shoots at usec, they walk over, he cloaks, I shoot at assassin and somehow assassin being visible due to the shots doesn't make usec hear or see him I'm like, "okay this is dumb"
tawdry sequoia
Probably has an aggro buildup
sand sluice
Maybe
But fwiw
Solos is an afterthought mode anyways
So a bit more difficult for me to want to balance assassin around it when it's clear assassin doesn't get off as easy in trios
cinder hare
Solos is designed more to make people happy than anything
neat nest
Solos is nice because if I shoot someone I don’t have 2 buddies waiting for the counterkill
cinder hare
Duos feels more in-line with that the game actually would work with
neat nest
But also I love the wonderfully tactical and tactile 3v3 dynamics
cinder hare
Also yeah positioning (vert) and a sniper makes you fucking undefeatable in Dire
sand sluice
Well tbf
cinder hare
Just sit on a roof and boom, nobody can fucking touch you
sand sluice
Assassin + cloak + standing still with sniper = nearly free win
Since perfectly invisible outside of graphical glitches or thermals
But yeah dire marsh is the end game map currently with mid rewards
At least until cryo releases
neat nest
Dire marsh isn’t an endgame map
sand sluice
Or they rework quests so not so mant are on dire
It's more of an endgame map than outpost
neat nest
No it’s not lol
sand sluice
Like I'm hoping cryo is harder
Why would you say not? It has more difficult events, the most difficult boss, and the most later stage quests
neat nest
Endgame means once you’ve completed all quests
People are going there to do prio contracts which makes it a bloodbath because of the east-west movement dynamics
So it’s not endgame
You even said it has mid rewards haha
sand sluice
Oh then yeah no maps are endgame
neat nest
I think like half of the Dire Marsh lethality thing is that people reaallly want to cut through Intersection and Ponds and those places turn into super lethal areas because of it (leaving aside the various contracts which take you there)
It’s comparatively safe and boring to cut through the canal and south of maintenance
Even though I’m super guilty of cutting through Intersection frequently lol
But most contracts have you go east-west on Marsh at least once since there’s so many ones which have you running all over
sand sluice
Or uhh
South East west, then south, north, east, back to south
Good lord that was a goofy contract
neat nest
I listen to this less than I should but it’s a very good early rotation map
But it also makes stuff like that “go to bioresearch and then quarantine” mission hard
sand sluice
Ive died more following green than going through red
But tbf
I do W key people a lot
Cause it's too unsafe not to
chilly pebble
it's also because they expect people from those routes
sand sluice
Jfc I keep forgetting that like
placid oxide
<@&1474420814979010821> Any down to try out the new patch?
sand sluice
Part of the reason I w key people so hard
Is because assassins exist and it's so much safer to take out as many assassins as possible than leave them running around the map and cause USEC aggro to go haywire
neat nest
it's also because they expect people from those routes
Most people don’t ime
void stirrup
yo guys check out my new loot from Cryo
sand sluice
yo guys check out my new loot from Cryo
Contraband key from cyro
It'll let you go to the halo rings clearly
But yeah no dire marsh just feels goofy cause to me I consider it end game cause its later stage questing non stop it feels like + the other stuff like scorch warden just being more annoying to fight of the 3
But tbf I dont think bungie will ever add an actual true end game map that requires completion of all prio contracts
oak glacier
cant wait to find keys to lh'owon
neat nest
Year 2
sand sluice
Season 2 is the actual horror game
When Dire Marsh is night time
And the anomaly spawns actual mimics
neat nest
Update to the ARG soldiers
neat nest
And the anomaly spawns actual mimics
Oh yeah they’ll probably have mimics in it
sand sluice
Update to the ARG soldiers
Understood, jumping into every toxic plant I see and injecting myself with symbiot C.0X by synthesizing a C.0X key with chitin biosample from bio-research in quarantine
neat nest
This is sending me
placid oxide
Logged in and holy christ I have so much room in my vault now
sand sluice
I'm gonna login and have like
No vault space still
But tbf it's because I'm behind
patent thicket
https://aftermath.site/marathon-satire-readergrev/
I thought this was fairly obvious. It’s like Cruelty Squad, but less Dadaist.
sand sluice
There's even more satirism if you think about the influencer personality types of the faction contacts
placid oxide
Maybe you guys are stuck in a corpo hellscape but I am just here for the vibes
neat nest
Dire Marsh is ludicrously pretty when the weather isn’t some bullshit
placid oxide
When the weather is nice and you aren't getting 3rd partied its gorgeous
sand sluice
Dire Marsh is ludicrously pretty when the weather isn’t some bullshit
I like seeing the explosion happen south out of bounds
Always very pretty
sand sluice
Lmao they forgot to redact it
sand sluice
Where?
cinder hare
opportunist
indirect nerf
but the combo was insanely oppressive if played right, also the warden shred
neat nest
Yeah haha
sand sluice
That took my brain way too long to parse
I kept reading it as nerf to spread = making spread tighter and I was like, "but how is that a nerf"
sand sluice
Jfc I forgot they call bullet magnetism aim assist
Or is it actually aim assist?
My brain can not read those words for some reason
placid oxide
I believe it is functionally bullet magnetism yes
neat nest
It is yeah
Marathon also has aim assist on controller
But it’s different from the stat
sand sluice
The spin ready is the weapon swap ready time right?
placid oxide
Bungie loves their vague, obtuse names for things
sand sluice
I might be too dumb to understand these words rn ngl
But I also expect numbers
Like some sort of
Statistics doer
mossy bridge
I listen to this less than I should but it’s a very good early rotation map
My advice is just go to bio research then go around greenhouse then use as much movement in your wheelhouse as possible to sprint through intersection to quarantine
neat nest
This is usually what I do but occasionally shit goes Very Wrong near intersection
Damn this has aura
neat nest
Lmao that’s great
mossy bridge
I don’t think he even noticed
Somehow
I was wearing the nucal thief skin so
About as visible as possible
oh cool new skin for killing a compiler and then exfiltrating
“let’s all wear face masks and not tell triage recon or thief”
Oh my god I just saw a post of outpost
THERES ROOMBAS
sand sluice
mossy bridge
neat nest
placid oxide
Friend roomba
mossy bridge
I had a thought
One of the mods mentions [REDACTED] enemies
Are we gonna see simulacrums on the marathon?
The “Thank God, it’s you! BOOM” guys
sand sluice
Prob the uhh
placid oxide
Think the achievements already ruined what the redacted guys were
sand sluice
Yeah exactly
placid oxide
Which, gotta say, after all the secrecy it feels a bit silly to have it drop that way
neat nest
I mean, it was pretty clear
placid oxide
Well sure
But playing coy all the way up to this then having it like that seems a bit deflating
neat nest
I wouldn’t be shocked by simulacrums or even some other Pfhor hardware
neat nest
But playing coy all the way up to this then having it like that seems a bit defl...
There was a compiler in the Marathon in the reveal trailer
It is really funny how much they played coy though
neat nest
Ah fair I follow now
sand sluice
I think the codex for the skins was a fumble ye
Should have been redacted like they did in the patch notes
placid oxide
Yep
sand sluice
But it happnes
Who knows
Maybe they expected cryo to be unlocked by the time the patch went live
neat nest
I’m actually excited to see little previews before we can go in tbh
I think the most important stuff remains hidden
Map mechanics and layout
How S’pht fight
Where you can find that cloth worth 40,000 smackeroos
placid oxide
I'm hoping they keep as much hidden as possible before it opens tbh
I enjoy the genuine sense of figuring it out as a community
S'pht look dope and I am hopeful that fighting them feels like a legit horror game rather than just dumping bully mags into them
Have to do the last bit of Selection Pressures and I may just wait until folks are on for that bit lol
sand sluice
Where you can find that cloth worth 40,000 smackeroos
There's a what?
neat nest
sand sluice
Oh contraband
If I had to guess rng loot behind the contraband 6th key
Or maybe the 7th key
Since uhh
That exists
Im moreso curious about like
If contraband gear exists
Cause I know we have the prestige gear
neat nest
I’ve only need non-combat contrabands so far
A few trinkets and the cloth and the key and such
sand sluice
Yup
Like there's the uhh
Durandal snippet
Which generates a locked room key every exfil
But it's fragile
neat nest
This is a weird one
neat nest
I’m wondering wtf CyAc gives you for it
sand sluice
Wait that's a salvage?!
mossy bridge
I’m wondering wtf CyAc gives you for it
cyac should give you a six pack of beer and 5,000,000 dollars in cash just for even picking the thing up considering how much work it's going to be to get one
sand sluice
S'pht look dope and I am hopeful that fighting them feels like a legit horror ga...
Reminds me I scared myself fighting scorch warden at 3 AM the other day and let out a very disorientated "waaaaaah" sound.
Cause the rabbit knight plushie I have fell over and landed on my hand on my keyboard and I thought it was a giant bug
placid oxide
Walking in to Best Buy to get a new keyboard because you smashed yours to pieces in fright
cinder hare
insane idea
sand sluice
Nah I was locked in, my hands didn't leave the keyboard
sand sluice
Yeah but you gotta exfil
neat nest
I think returned items expire and disappear after some time
A week? 48 hours? I forget
neat nest
I think it’s shorthand for how many items it calls for
sand sluice
25 items yes
25 neurochem packs in this case
The blue sponsored kits are worth about 10k credits IIRC
Or cost 10k credits
sand sluice
Green ones cost 4k IIRC
Which is what I'm a bit curious about
Cause can you bring a blue sponsored kit into cryo if it costs 10k but doesn't sell for 10k?
cinder hare
big fan of how you can just get all this for free
neat nest
Cause can you bring a blue sponsored kit into cryo if it costs 10k but doesn't s...
I imagine it’s whatever the loadout value says it is
Which I don’t remember for fancy kits
I think free sponsor kits show up as 0 so it’s not sell value of the stuff there
sand sluice
Oh that's a good point
neat nest
I’ve actually never bought a fancy kit so idk
placid oxide
I'm game
cinder hare
Gimme 5 for water
cinder hare
I'm game
ight vc
the fact that this here is 3.5k makes the 5k lim feel small lol
tbf 2.5k of that is the WSTR
cinder hare
this is a 5k pack
sand sluice
Yeah that makes the 5k way more approachable
I always have the money value turned on in raid so to me a wstr is like 1.2k
neat nest
Yeah 5k is non-trivial but easy to hit
If you’re running top end purples you’re easily at like 15k
sand sluice
Yeah I'm dumb
I wonder what the ranked entry fees will be
Low stakes I imagine would be fairly cheap
neat nest
No idea how legit it is but a basic bronze holo tag is supposedly 500
sand sluice
Interesting
neat nest
I expect it scales up with rank esp above plat
neat nest
I think this guy might be getting the same weird volt weapon results but I’m not sure
It’s a good table
I don’t remember why (the thread with the explanation is archived) but iirc there’s some weird stuff with volt weapons which DPS calcs miss
I haven’t seen the video only looking at the table
split apex
I don’t remember why (the thread with the explanation is archived) but iirc ther...
do they do additional damage to shields or something?
neat nest
I can’t remember
I know the Volt Thrower is deceptive because it can’t headshot though
But this chart gets that right
split apex
Yeh
neat nest
do they do additional damage to shields or something?
Looking it up and I thiiiiink they do?
I am not seeing very good info
split apex
sand sluice
Looking it up and I *thiiiiink* they do?
I would say yes but that's cause USEC ghosts delete my shields
neat nest
Yeah lots of good anecdotes
I’ve also had the volt thrower absolutely chew up people in blue+shields
cinder hare
@warm sage ya up?
cinder hare
man i love rook
solid as hell run
met a bunch of friendly rooks
i love how every rook suddenly agreed that other rooks are friend
neat nest
I think it might have been done
Ok second to last puzzle done
Earned us a new hint
Double ignore lol
Cryo probably tonight?
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone wanna go for wraith warden and maybe snipe some runners
neat nest
I think the last region might be a victory lap
neat nest
Interesting
split apex
Good
mossy bridge
They should've nerfed the WSTR harder.
i wish they completely fucking gutted it frankly
i wish it healed you if you were shot with it but hurt your team mates
placid oxide
Hmm, is that including team fill too?
neat nest
Yeah afaik just no solos
final onyx
im gna get some better gear and then bust out my cryo key
mossy bridge
were bungie intentionally trying to one up tarkov in terms of quests that make you want to rip your hair out
sand sluice
Ah rip
placid oxide
People speculating that it is going to be Destiny 2 raid difficult has me a bit confused
I don’t see that working in a pvpve game
More difficult fights and puzzles sure but doing something as complicated as Rhul while also having the threat of being beamed down by a rando seems rough
twin rain
It coooould but it'd have to be much different than what is being suggested. Not so much D2 "memorize this wall of symbols" raid-level but definitely more than "here's a beefy enemy with an ability or two". Like with the events in the current slate of maps with big map markers and announcements, but with more elaborate steps. But yeah it'd suck all the same to get interrupted. But that's also the excitement / risk/reward yknow?
mossy bridge
Oh my fucking godddddd dude I knocked the ghost commander I needed to kill and loot OUT OF BOUNDS
sand sluice
I'll only really care for cryos trios if it's pve
neat nest
It coooould but it'd have to be much different than what is being suggested. Not...
I would expect things to be pretty simple by destiny standards but with the added tension of other mfs trying to Get you while you do it
wintry shuttle
The just strategy would be to fight through it
the unjust strategy is to RAT.
RAT the winning team and shiv them with WSTR's.
When in doubt
cosmic flame
were bungie intentionally trying to one up tarkov in terms of quests that make y...
we get that you're mad but could you stop using this channel to salt off
wintry shuttle
When in doubt
RAT
sand sluice
Yeh like it's honestly not worth at a certain point
Like I'll prob drop a negative review for the game and slower taper off if they do end up locking cryos to trios
wraith vector
I mean it sounds like they're going to
sand sluice
As much as I could complain endlessly about it at the end of the day I'm not someone who can consistently put the time in to 1v3 teams so it's better for me to accept it and move on
neat nest
You realize trios is a 3v3 right?
sand sluice
I mean it sounds like they're going to
I'm kinda coping they won't or there will be some way to keep playing solo but I can't be that mad for having a good run
sand sluice
You realize trios is a 3v3 right?
Eh....yeah but it kinda runs into the same situation as deadlock did where my usual friend group doesn't play the game enough and I don't feel fully comfortable being a liability elsewise
neat nest
made a thing
sand sluice
Thermal sights being considered ratting is hilarious lmao
twin rain
I'm enjoying imagining someone with their thermal sights installed backwards on the gun and they cannot look through it
cosmic flame
i enjoy many things about this game but i will never defend thermals
neat nest
I think with the range cutoffs thermals are in a pretty good place
I wish it was easier to tell if people were using them
twin rain
they're def not as good as they were
neat nest
I'd love a splinter-cell like pweeee when using them as a small tell
twin rain
yeah like the sniper lens flare
mossy bridge
twin rain
but it's purple and smaller or some shit
mossy bridge
oh my god
sand sluice
Yeah I think they're okay now cause 100m isnt full distance for Longshot right? It's halfish?
neat nest
I'm still not really sure how to do that haha
twin rain
you just gotta go to the room afaik
I got it by accident
(I didn't even see the cows)
mossy bridge
uhhhhhh cow room in i think lower dorms?
neat nest
Yeah I think they're okay now cause 100m isnt full distance for Longshot right? ...
Yeah it's now
- pistols: 40m
- precision rifles: 80m
- Snipers: 100m
- else: 60m
Apparently shotguns don't get em at all
neat nest
Eh....yeah but it kinda runs into the same situation as deadlock did where my us...
The lfg community here and elsewhere is pretty chill ime
I wouldn't sweat it
cosmic flame
the bang smoke / gold 1x meta from apex being replicated 1:1 in this game is pretty tiresome and i mostly enjoy that fog acts as an environmental hardcap on sniper sightlines
neat nest
Actually I've had some of the best randoms in Marathon vs other games which is weird
neat nest
the bang smoke / gold 1x meta from apex being replicated 1:1 in this game is pre...
Yeah I wouldn't mind them copping more nerfs in the future
cosmic flame
the things the existence of thermals indirectly buff I already find pretty strong, like smokes
neat nest
Yeah there's a lot of systems which get touched by thermals being good
cosmic flame
even with exactly zero assassins on my team I've got a lot of value from smokes
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> anone got time?
cosmic flame
white rarity uesc off button bredy gud
mossy bridge
we get that you're mad but could you stop using this channel to salt off
i cannot make any promises due to a long struggling battle with me and my anger issues but i will try to post it in here less in the future the problem is that this tends to make me less mad unfortunately at the expense of shitting up the channel
i am seeing my GP about this tomorrow and will pray that i get support for it
neat nest
smoke, the assassin frame, several random implants and cores which make you invis
augh I'm lancering the shells
twin rain
yeah I feel like even tho the smoke grenades are blissfully tiny compared to assassin smokes, every one I've thrown has been impactful
neat nest
yeah I feel like even tho the smoke grenades are blissfully tiny compared to ass...
The way they just go block off a troublesome sightline is incredible
neat nest
<@&1474420814979010821> anone got time?
(I am unavailable - killing time before my lancer game)
neat nest
Last time I played trios fill I got a crew of all people who meant to Q solo but forgot and we whipped ass
Even with our dumbass 2 assassin 1 destroyer comp
great fun
twin rain
I think assassin might (hilariously) be the best class to have multiples on in a team
placid oxide
Fill still feels like a crapshoot tbh
sand sluice
I will say I'm going to be personally biased against thermal nerfs but thats largely due to assassin shells existing.
So it's hard for me to be impartial about it cause I already get pretty frustrated at the cloak to begin with.
Granted the Bangalore bloodhound smoke meta is annoying so I get it and would understand nerfs logically even if personally I'd be salt
twin rain
as they can all benefit from each other's smokes
random vessel
I keep seeing big money rook runs but I have no idea how to maneuver to do the same
All I've been getting is the unstable mats people left behind on dire marsh
sand sluice
I wouldn't sweat it
Ye no I agree but unfortunately it's a more personal thing where I want to be able to play a game when I'm depressed and largely not care about the effort and being forced into trios kinda makes that rough
twin rain
I think it's either:
- know where the good loot typically is and check
or - go vulture mode and lurk the big fight areas
twin rain
but those unstable mats are lowkey valuable too. they're good bartering for basic materials and you need like 100s of them for upgrades
mossy bridge
for five seconds
mossy bridge
Yeah. I know.
sand sluice
That one isn't too bad
But tbf I just did the uhh
||go into drone wing, scan drones, hit 7 power boxes, then exfil||
Which tbf
Rn might be a bit easier depending as long as you ||get into pinwheel first with drone stealth entry||
cinder hare
i really really really wanna run this kit
but damn the gear fear is REAL on this build
twin rain
save it for cryo Id say
placid oxide
Agreed
twin rain
then we throw it all away
mossy bridge
how is the channel rifle
placid oxide
If I’m going to dump all my gear I want it to freeze with the Angels, not just get taken by some random who is a much better shot than me
neat nest
how is the channel rifle
Awkward to use but I think it has the highest single hit damage fully charged?
mossy bridge
that would make sense
cinder hare
anyone wanna hit pinwheel
im kinda in the mood to run the 70 damage + crouching tiger build
with toxin
200 fucking damage lfg
placid oxide
Kiddo time right now but if I’m on after I’d be down
mossy bridge
placid oxide
I’ve yet to meet a chill Rook
neat nest
could finally log on - feels nice
placid oxide
Little fellas are like seagulls, they come in and make a fuss until you shoo them away (Shoot them in the cranium)
neat nest
wtf I had 24 advanced heals?
placid oxide
They sneak up on ya!
twin rain
they stack to 8 in your backpack!
so prior to today's patch you may have thought you only had 9 like regular heals
neat nest
I knew I had a bunch but I hadn't been counting them cause they're rare
cryo soon
This was posted about a minute after Preservation in the ARG got cracked
twin rain
god I'm nervous/excited
sand sluice
I'm trying to keep my expectations low
twin rain
we're gonna simulate the seasonal reset with how empty my vault will be
sand sluice
I'll probably leave the server for a bit depending
placid oxide
Bungie usually does a good job with this type of content tbh
sand sluice
But tbf I am like
placid oxide
Moreso it is the follow up that I’ve always felt was weak on their part
cinder hare
cryo today?
sand sluice
Trying to be mindful but with the way he's wording it I'm assuming insta down mechanics
cosmic flame
Moreso it is the follow up that I’ve always felt was weak on their part
can confirm, my interaction with Destiny has generally been 24-72 hours of fevered crunching for the raid race and dungeons in between idle interaction with pvp and gms to stave off the burden of thought
placid oxide
Thoughts get in the way of pattern memorization for the raid puzzle anyways
If they have a callback to DSC soundtrack I’ll geek out
cosmic flame
Guys Guys Guys Whats Antumbra Again Guys
that breakcore reinterpretation of the marathon 96 main theme riff is gonna hit like crack
twin rain
honestly that's within the realm of possibility
neat nest
What's a pinnacle challenge in a bungie context anyway?
twin rain
usually endgame stuff
sand sluice
Considering that's the top rank from the profile icons
I'm assuming Master rank mmr challenge
Unless I'm mistaken
Lemme double check
sand sluice
Yeah that's what it says
Granted idk if that's accurate
Would have to check in game
If they mean just like raid I really hope it's good enough cause I'm like
Trying really hard to not get negative
twin rain
confusingly they also used it as a term for a tier of rewards/loot which could drop from several other activities, such as strikes, weekly quests, and pvp. it was at the highest power level that could drop (which was dependant on your current power level)
neat nest
😵💫
placid oxide
Bungie and vague wording for game terms, name a more loving pair
twin rain
it's probably just a quality/challenge equivalency if I had to guess. It's just the Marathon version of the endgame
cosmic flame
yeh
placid oxide
We all start at Bronze 3 I think?
sand sluice
Actually now I'm wondering if ranked is forced trios
grave pebble
Believe it is. No fills, one queue afaik
tawdry sequoia
would make sense
grave pebble
Go in with a squad or git gud enough to 1v3
tawdry sequoia
I'm just crawling around in solos doing quests
have gotten no progress on my priority contracts in fill/vc games (part cause I don't force 'em) so I'm super low progress on them
sand sluice
I'd rather do cyro and ranked 1v3s as an option rather than forced trios yeah
grave pebble
Because in my head I'm imagining a destiny raid , with no respawns, where you can get jumped by other players
I haven't heard that cryo doesn't have fills but I imagine it would be a bad idea to go in there with a fill
Wonder if they'll try to implement an actual party finder in this game at least
sand sluice
yeah I'm def curious
placid oxide
Do hope that Cryohub ends up being a short, perfunctory step
What’s this I saw about someone in the arg channel having their twitch viewers spam hate gifs?
neat nest
Ok cracked preservation for myself
This section is a motherfucker
Hard asf knowing the answers
Here they are fwiw
There's also a userscript which can output the ones you need then in priority order on the page
Which is how I did it
cinder hare
What the fuck does any of this mean
placid oxide
Cryo is one step closer to unlocked!