Marathon

[mossy bridge]

destroyer?

highest melee damage

[cinder hare]

just go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr FWOM FWOM FWOM FWOM GET BLASTED GET BLASTED GET BLASTED

[mossy bridge]

you'd think it'd be assassin as he's the melee guy

but no

big mclargehuge

with his riot shield, armored core quickboost, power sprint and rocket shoulders

[cinder hare]

he's basically a UESC commander in the coolest way possible

[mossy bridge]

UESC Grenadier Commander if it locked in

[cinder hare]

i like the idea of destroyer legendary cores turning them into different types of wardens

"your melee attacks hack the target; your ult no longer summons missiles but instead summons clones"

https://youtu.be/-f19FS0YAKM

_gantry’s favorite song

[mossy bridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfUo2mPYQ2E what he wants you to think it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZk0SChlebs what it actually is

[sand sluice]

Ah that one I just lasered them as they came into the room while standing ontop of the table right next to the entrance

Easier than the sekiguchi 4/5 IMO

[mossy bridge]

i got it done

but as i said

i then died to a three stack of players

it's... really hard to find lobbies for it

[sand sluice]

lobbies?

[mossy bridge]

i mean

just, random matchmaking

usually it tends to give you people doing the same quest

[sand sluice]

why not do it solo?

[mossy bridge]

i

dont go to diremarsh solo

usually

it's usually a great way to die horribly

[sand sluice]

I'd say give it a whirl if randos aren't working out for you

obv just take sponsored kits tho

or can ask people here

in other news

why nona so obsessed with me damn.
like chill out girl I would not love you if you were a worm 🙄

[cinder hare]

I love nona

Let’s self iterate together

[wintry shuttle]

She sorta did make the Runners

Maybe it's one of those "My creation is so beautiful that I want to marry them" kinda things?

How would the logistics of a worm wife go?

[twin rain]

I think she's just saying what you want to hear

isn't actually sincere

logical conclusion of: "would you still love me if I was a worm"

[patent thicket]

“Would you love me if I was made by worms?”

[cinder hare]

GOD DAMMIT

ok thats enough

but just lost a really good solo run to sudden UESC nuke

bruh i lost a run cuz my team abandoned me

[twin rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oOnwnvCmi4

another one

[cinder hare]

like christ

those two people, fuck you

[grave pebble]

I've abandoned pubs before tbqh

One dc at start and you wanna go solo hauler when neither of us have a quest obejctive? Good luck pal

[cinder hare]

this was more like, "entering a poi through a method that I cant get into if you dont let me"

so i was stuck outside, alone

because they refused to wait a little so i could get up

[final onyx]

<@&1474420814979010821> anyone up for a few rounds?

[neat nest]

Sure

[cinder hare]

I would if I didn’t have classes rn

[neat nest]

I’ll just be a few minutes need to boot up

Ok might be slightly longer I forgot about the update

[neat nest]

I'm set up now

[woeful tundra]

@neat nest jenny and i are two stacking

we assume you made a misclick inviting her

[neat nest]

oh yep it's a right click haha

[woeful tundra]

haha

[obsidian latch]

My first pin

[cinder hare]

lmao

[neat nest]

<@&1474420814979010821> looking for 1

[cinder hare]

guh i wish

ive been needing a trio to help me with this mission

[woeful tundra]

i can play

[neat nest]

Had a really funny run earlier tonight where we killed a random assassin (who I assume was autofilled) and his buddies were like “hey just let us scan these places we’re chill” as we pulled out of the building

I actually really like how the friendly moments are rare and cherished in Marathon since it’s so cutthroat setting wise

[cinder hare]

<@&1474420814979010821> who wanna marton

[slate field]

I just got into a solo run but I'd be down afterwards

[cinder hare]

See you in 10 minutes ig

[slate field]

Lol nvm

I just died

Fucker got me while I was checking my menu

Zulnahdwiin#1530

[cinder hare]

Yeah 2 minutes

[cinder hare]

i

i think i need to do more runs

[sand sluice]

why do you think that?

not saying you're wrong, cause I also need to do more runs

[ivory laurel]

I kinda want to get a full squad going just to use my best gear for once

[sand sluice]

can ping the role w/e and just say you'd ask to bring the same level of gear

[cinder hare]

In the sense of too much fear

Gear

[sand sluice]

well for starters

I'd say buy some weapons to use those weapon mods on and use those

[ivory laurel]

As you don't truly own the game, it's just some corpo's gear. Why are you protecting the corpo stuff for free?

[sand sluice]

season wipes coming in 2 3/4 months yeah

[cosmic flame]

@split apex ping me if you want to mart on

[ivory laurel]

In a close quarter fight, it's smarter to swap weapons than reloading, right?

[twin rain]

yeah. several weapon mods improve handling (which buffs swap time). a lot of folks will panic if you pull a knife on em too

[cosmic flame]

Its Faster To Draw Your Pistol Than Reload

-some guy

[split apex]

we just hit the motherload with a buddy of mine, ill ask her

[ivory laurel]

Time to double Wstr on Outpost?

[cosmic flame]

holy shit u ran the marathon

[split apex]

i sure can now

[split apex]

we're taking a quick 5min break then we're happy to squad up with yeh

[cosmic flame]

holy pog

no problems, ill take a sec to refill my water and do wrist stretches

[split apex]

@cosmic flame aite we got a channel up

[obsidian latch]

Honestly if it’s really close, go in for a knife if you wanna risk it for the biscuit. It does a lot of damage and a lot of people tend to freak out and flail around so they actually have a harder time hitting you

[sand sluice]

I've swapped to knife and few times and won yeah

[sand sluice]

Yeh that's why I say I should be like at lvl 50-60 lol

[distant zinc]

holy fuck

[cinder hare]

Guh I need to PvP more

[cosmic flame]

it costs FIFTEEN K

NAUR

[twin rain]

they know

[cinder hare]

yeah it’s why I made a complaint about the schemas

[twin rain]

what its capable of

[cinder hare]

I think lots of them are insanely expensive

[sand sluice]

I disagree

Given the fact they just nerfed rook so shotgun now requires matter fixitive it more fits in align with more powerful guns not being easily accessible

[cinder hare]

i mean you have to get the schema first then the gun

id argue like 6-10k is fine

[sand sluice]

yeah but the 2 shot shotgun is 6k

at that point it makes it smarter to attempt to farm the schema than just buy shotgun

[cinder hare]

ive seen like maybe 2 purple schemas and im level 30

[sand sluice]

yeah but from what you told me the only time you really started farming purples was doing outpost farming with thief right?

[cinder hare]

eh i stopped and im still getting fairly consistent blues

granted i avoid PvP

ive been meaning to do wardens but its a bit of a pain when the rest of my team doesnt want to

since my only choice are randoms most of the time

[sand sluice]

that I couldn't tell you, I'd say just ping here when you want to do trios and be on standby for swapping when someone does ping

or just do what I do and play solos or decide if I want to do break off from randoms in trios

[cinder hare]

solo wardens sounds like a pain in the ass ngl

[sand sluice]

ehhh

[grave pebble]

<@&1474420814979010821> anyone still running?

[sand sluice]

honestly scorch warden is really the only one, and that's largely due to dire marsh being a painful map

[cinder hare]

esp cuz im bad at pvp

[twin rain]

I can join up

[cinder hare]

i do not want to pvp people much

[sand sluice]

you don't necessarily have to but then you'll have to play around not pvping more which means tougher to get loot

[cinder hare]

its mostly cuz im bad at it

my hands arent super stable and i cant laser people that well

im also terrible at multitasking

[sand sluice]

I mean there's the structured way of getting better

which is aimlabs/kovaaks and putting the work in

or there's the silly method which is what most of the better tarkov players say to do

which is w key towards every fight

[distant zinc]

yeah this is the way

[grave pebble]

honestly in this game getting the drop is more valuable than being skilled

[sand sluice]

marathon is enough of an extraction shooter that you can ignore mechanical skill by learning the game better

[distant zinc]

you gotta bash that brick wall down with your face unfortunately

[sand sluice]

like yes

[cinder hare]

yeah its less that and more "i have physically shaky hands"

[sand sluice]

you'll run into some people who will 100% be able to react and kill you when you have the drop on them

but they're far and few between

[grave pebble]

knowing when to be aggressive is the difference-maker

[sand sluice]

and usually it's cause they have like purple shields more than them being skilled

[cinder hare]

so every game i play i HAVE to play someone who has an AoE of some sort

so in deadlock i play graves, apollo, seven, etc

[sand sluice]

yeah but this is an extraction shooter, not a moba

like my advice is to play solos with sponsored kit, have a 2nd monitor up with the map spawns and W key towards spawns and proceed to W key towards sounds if you don't want to practice mechanics/fundamentals

[cinder hare]

hmmm i guess

[sand sluice]

well

there is another option

swap to using controller

but you'll prob have to relearn how to use a controller

and IMO the effort of using a controller for a lot of people is higher than using m&k

can also try to figure out why your hands are shaky

some people get really tense and that causes some bad tracking

[cinder hare]

its natural

i dont know what causes it

ill just have to go for kills on sponsored

[split apex]

as someone who is a lot worse at fps games as ive gotten older, i legitimately recommend you grab a Retaliator and run it with the best Assault Shield mod you can, but any form of one is good enough

Assault Shield changed my opinion on LMGs entirely and it can just single handedly win you duels you have no business coming out on top of

Just last match I gunned down an Assassin coming out of Hauler, and took zero damage because I was crouched down with the shield on (they were actively shooting me)

[sand sluice]

oh shit aus invitational

cool to see pestily's in it

[vivid flower]

What are the lockbox keys for actually

^just started playing

[cinder hare]

lockboxes lmao

[split apex]

you'll see certain buildings that have flare launchers going off on the side of them

[cinder hare]

ok but if you see red flares

[split apex]

they have lockboxes inside with random loot

[cinder hare]

^

[split apex]

you need a lockbox key to open each

[cinder hare]

btw bring thief when you use them

[split apex]

yeah they have very very random loot

[cinder hare]

guarantees you get the highest tier loot of em

[split apex]

but thief will let you see if any of them have blues, purples etc.

[vivid flower]

Ah

I see

[cinder hare]

thief is insanely strong if mastered fyi

[vivid flower]

No I am just like level 12 and minimal ability to connect somewhat related things

[cinder hare]

like insanely insanely strong

[vivid flower]

So I would never figure out connection of flares = lockbox

[cinder hare]

tbf marathon is a storygame

and its kinda meant to be info you either connect over time or unlock a codex entry for

play marathon more like a game like binding of issac or risk of rain with pvp instead of as an FPS and it makes a lot more sense

[grave pebble]

i was in a pub with 2 thieves and we did good work by staggering our drones

[cinder hare]

yeah thief is real fucking good

lets see

• mobility of vandal but burstier
• straight up counters assassin (idk smokes)
• steals items
• recon drone, but it can steal all your heals if played well
• LOOT GOBLIN

[vivid flower]

yaoi scissoring

[cinder hare]

i feel like vandal could get their own-

theres a lot of marathon yuri

[vivid flower]

This is why I bought the game actually

but I run destroyer because it lets me speedrun death

[cinder hare]

i think vandal would be cool with a v ability

and recon too

i like v abilities a lot

[oak glacier]

Oh @split apex you mentioned triage transferring all effects
Do the shield repairs only transfer if you yourself are missing shields?

[cinder hare]

destroyer has 2 "passives" (super run and dash)

[vivid flower]

super run and double jump

[oak glacier]

I tried it earlier today and it didn't heal ash even with a drone on her

[vivid flower]

vandal also gets a double jump

[cinder hare]

its not a double jump

its a dash, moreof

its purely horizontal with barely any vert

[vivid flower]

Anyway time to shit on uesc terminals for glory of mida

[cinder hare]

insane idea but let vandal midair slide-cancel

and spam it

with no extra heat cost

[split apex]

Nope, you can pop healing items even at full health and it'll transfer over - it's hard to notice due to ally shield bars not updating in real time but it definitely should work

[cinder hare]

i want to see a vandal flying

[oak glacier]

Hmmm
Weird

I popped like two shield kits and it didn't seem to do anything :(

[split apex]

weird

[cinder hare]

shareware is interesting stuff

[oak glacier]

I'll try to test it more properly next time
Find a nice cliff to jump off so we can do some science

[cinder hare]

also im fairly convinced that melee damage is like, 30 or 40 + MOD

[split apex]

good idea

[cinder hare]

it takes 3 hits to down a gray or green runner

(standard 3 hit combo)

note that this is thief who has iirc 10 melee?

so if its 35, for instance, for 45 dmg total, that's 135

im fairlyyyyyyyyy certain thats how it works

since rook has a mod of 0 and deals like, 30-something damage at least

[sand sluice]

no blue or purple backpacks or shields

[cinder hare]

im not certain

thats a really solid run

[sand sluice]

I got to almost free loot pinwheel by myself

but some destroyer just had to security breach it

so I killed them

[cinder hare]

lol

[sand sluice]

then I just ran around and looted all 3 wings after spending 20 minutes trying to find the panels for the command wing

I'm a bit salt that you have to find the drone clearance key and it's not just a bunch of generic keys

[cinder hare]

command wing is missives, right?

cant remember

[sand sluice]

missives?

also usec got nerfed and they're kinda laughable now

or it feels like it

[cinder hare]

i just stab them as usual

[sand sluice]

but tbf I was using the bully

so

[split apex]

opening the command wing just needs you to hit authorization panels in destroyed wing and command wing

they're easy to find, or you can just use a guide

[cinder hare]

ok yeah

so specifically

[sand sluice]

yeah I used one but got confused on where the destroyed wing terminal was

[cinder hare]

its in the pins yep yep

[vivid flower]

I really wish the game would tell me how much damage I did to enemy

at least in solos

[sand sluice]

yeah I'd like an after death damage report so I know what guns people are using

cause the icons are hard to tell when everything is a bullpup

[vivid flower]

not even icons I just wish i knew how close it was

[distant zinc]

even before the nerf the bully shredded

[grave pebble]

was the bully nerfed? I didn't see that in the patch notes tbh

[cinder hare]

no

harrison is referring to the UESC nerf making the bully stronger

[split apex]

PSA: always loot UESC commanders

I found this and a loot key for Complex on the same guy

[cinder hare]

guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[twin rain]

oooh. wonder what the rof increase is like (demo is normally very slow)

[split apex]

yeah its only 225 RPM

if its even 25, 30% that's still very gnarly

[twin rain]

yeah. huge dps increase

[split apex]

I've really turned around on machine guns in this, Assault Shields are incredible

[twin rain]

they're soooo good

[distant zinc]

OH NO

[grave pebble]

the conquest is really , really good

[split apex]

I'm not super sold on the Conquest, the spooling RoF is rough

[distant zinc]

when it gets going it really rips tho

[mossy bridge]

.

[sand sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

these solo assassin players are so bad

mf would rather sit in a corner and die than peek for an exfil when he has built in smokes

I have to quit going to dire marsh

[split apex]

isnt this good for you since you killed him

[sand sluice]

no because it's final exfil

and diremarsh is a hellscape so I can't make it to final exfil from the previous exfil where he wanted to not do anything

my fault for not having a cardio kick I guess

[mossy bridge]

it's DONE

it's OVER

finally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhGX5izia1U

[sand sluice]

GAME PLZ

I just want

blue and purple backpack and shields

PLZ

[split apex]

locked rooms have em all the time

[sand sluice]

I know

it's so frustrating

[neat nest]

I’ve never seen a locked room key haha

[sand sluice]

I'd love to get a locked room key that isn't dire marsh

😭

[neat nest]

I’ve got a Marathon key now but no locked room key lol

[sand sluice]

to be fair

what I should do

is just buy blue shields/backpacks

[woeful tundra]

That really sucks - I recommend trying the homing weapons. I really appreciate that they exist

They're not for me but I'm always super happy to see games commit to that design in the content roster

Graves in deadlock etc

(fwiw I don't really laser people either I just run at them and hip fire shotguns)

I played with cyan for the first time yesterday and I think 80% of my damage was knife

[split apex]

They seem to mostly come from Wardens, but even just regular commanders can drop them

I got a room key and a gold mod just off some random, no-name grenadier commander today

So always check the commander kits they drop

[neat nest]

I’ve been avoiding them since they’re such ammo and noise sinks so that makes sense

[split apex]

The health nerf they got should help a decent bit

If you're in trios and you have a triage, you can kinda just goofily knife rush them (or any shell combination really, but triage saves you a bunch on meds in case you get shot on the way in)

three players knifing a commander takes it out in short order and it should be stunlocked

Enhance with knife boosting implants as needed

[final onyx]

its minor but i killed like 10 recruits in a row witha purple hardline

[grave pebble]

yeah commanders are pretty easy to focus down atp

[sand sluice]

only blue backpacks :(

[grave pebble]

ugh, finally, vault expansion 2

if i combine that with my policy of auto-dismantling any new greens i should actually be able to make some damn space in here

[sand sluice]

I need to get to cyac 28 so I can get rid of the 2nd stack of these

[grave pebble]

getting materials waaay before you have the opportunity to use them is a real pain

i think i'm probs ready to actually start running outpost for real tbh

bring my actually good weapons like my volley rifle along

i've just been quietly upgrading them and letting them sit while i get farmed with sponkits

[mossy bridge]

Funniest thing just happened

Me and a Vandal got into a fight on hauler

I rush them with my knife

Break their shield, they down me, UESC immediately downs them

"man bro was it worth it" he said so i went to his steam page and said "yes"

[neat nest]

That’s a funny way to do it

I put 2.5 Retaliator belts into its head haha

(Purple mag - 160 shots)

[split apex]

oof

[neat nest]

The knife method seems worth trying

They’re such ammo hogs lol

Albeit I had plenty of light ammo so it wasn’t a problem

[placid oxide]

Knife fighting the commanders feels so goofy as an idea but it works surprisingly well

They somewhat struggle to strafe so if you just circle them they can’t do as much as you’d expect

[neat nest]

I tried it with wraith commander first and the hack melee got me killed haha

(Not by the commander - frozen cooldowns sucked vs runners)

[sand sluice]

I gotta quit being toxic to people I down

Just a waste of time sometimes

Too mant times have I melee'd someone after downing them when they tried to sneak up on me

[sand sluice]

I wonder if they ever remove the npcs from wall hacking us

[sand sluice]

Needs more confirmation

[neat nest]

I’ve seen people online talk about how they like it

It used to be purple and gold but now it’s just gold I think

And only salvage? Not sure about valuables

[neat nest]

Gantry why

[mossy bridge]

I had my first Felini/Bingus/KAAL1 encounter today

She was sitting on the little external walkway on Hauler

[sharp plover]

it is actually a nice detail that there are actual bathrooms all over the place

[neat nest]

Yeah they’re great for hiding in and there’s so many

One time I found a pinwheel key in one lol

I love when Marathon exposes a little ImSim DNA

[tawdry sequoia]

I think I have a couple keys in my stash

I should do something with those

I distinctly remember a greenhouse key

also am I crazy or do keys not have their own tab

[neat nest]

I don’t believe they do

also take me with you

[tawdry sequoia]

I'll hit you up, I'd definitely want to do a VC squad for it 😅

[neat nest]

Thank you

I’ve scratched out on seeing any named keys and I wanna see what the loot rooms are like

[tawdry sequoia]

I genuinely do not remember where I even picked it up

chances are a random body

[cinder hare]

I’m so fucking thankful for the knives

Having hard lock makes it so much more reliable when I can rely on movement over aim

[neat nest]

It’s not a complete solution but some time with an aim trainer can also help

Marathon is a bad game for aim training because fights are intermittent and high stakes so people get jittery

[woeful tundra]

the knives are great yeah

[neat nest]

And aim training can make the process more autonomic and less conscious which helps

The knives are so nice now yeah

Lmao

[twin rain]

It really is a two cakes scenario

[neat nest]

Definitely

[sand sluice]

It's also why I say to just W key towards every fight for a bit

My only issue is I'm not aiming for heads enough

[neat nest]

Yeah it’s not a bad policy

Good to get into the rhythm of fighting

And it’s usually better to engage than to get engaged on

[mossy bridge]

most shameful death by far

[sand sluice]

Nah

Ticks are very buggy

[mossy bridge]

it was more the fact i ran into a room of them expecting a UESC Commander

but

nop

doing the level 10 nucal quest

1/4

[sand sluice]

Most shameful death would be uhh

[neat nest]

I apologize for laughing at this

[sand sluice]

Downing someone

Being toxic

[mossy bridge]

jumping out of bounds is pretty bad

[sand sluice]

And then getting downed while being toxic

[mossy bridge]

i did that

[sand sluice]

Which map?

[mossy bridge]

i jumped over one of the perimeter fences on perimeter

overheated

[sand sluice]

That's pretty goofy ye

[mossy bridge]

couldnt get back over

died

[neat nest]

Mine was downing myself by shooting myself off a roof with vandal arm gun by mistake

[mossy bridge]

I blew myself up one time too

truly these are some

[sand sluice]

I once ran directly into a turret and got gunned down

[mossy bridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYZZ2UH-mc

stupid deaths

i think i met my first friendly runner

well

briefly, lol

after shooting them in the face, we were both in exfil and they just "eh let's stop fighting"

so i was okay with that

i did try and stab them in the face just before exfil activated

[neat nest]

Lmao

[mossy bridge]

ehhhhhhh it wouldn't have killed them

they had green shields

oh boy

[neat nest]

I think the funniest friendly situation I ran into was when we were a 3 stack here and fucking jumped an assassin on Outpost

And about 30 seconds later heard a teammate hiding in the bathroom (probably) say “hey man, I’m just trying to get scans at airfield, just leave me alone”

“You can even escort me if you want”

But we were doing Seki intro and just said we were clearing out

[mossy bridge]

oh

fair

[neat nest]

Didn’t see them again but it was funny

[mossy bridge]

He was doing MIDA

I know the one

oh wow i have all the sponsored skins for vandal

dont have the paid one, the deluxe edition one, the battle pass premium one or the shadow index one

but i have nucal traxus cyac mida and sekgen

[neat nest]

Arachne soon

[mossy bridge]

ye

mid april they said

[sand sluice]

@cinder hare
Forgot to ask, when you browse the internet does your mouse hand shake then or is it only when playing videogames?

[cinder hare]

less when i use internet

but if you look closely you can see some tremors

[mossy bridge]

straight up bringing some BULLLLLLLLLLSHIT

[sand sluice]

Gotcha so my question is this, do the tremors cause you to move your mouse when you browse the internet?

[neat nest]

There is a secret tech for hand tremors

[cinder hare]

i doubt it makes a difference

[neat nest]

Microdosing alcohol

[cinder hare]

it mainly affects when im doing stuff fast

[sand sluice]

I think Carmen is not 21 yet lol

[neat nest]

(Considered a controlled substance for some shooting competitions irl)

[cinder hare]

ironically im the reason why my family has a bottle of cointreau

[neat nest]

It’s not a serious suggestion

[cinder hare]

and i do the wine selections lmao

its mostly for cooking but i need to try using some of that

[sand sluice]

I mean

[cinder hare]

i know there's a degree of which its just a skill issue

but my hands are just not incredibly stable

[sand sluice]

Yeh I'm just trying to think if the skill part can overcome that issue given how aiming works

Cause I know when I start to shake I can still control my mouse generally well but I have lower sensitivity on the mouse

[cinder hare]

i play on 550 dpi

super low sens

i think im doing 550 and 14 for marathon

[sand sluice]

I think my lowest was 400

[neat nest]

More dpi less sens may help

[sand sluice]

But that's when I was playing siege

[neat nest]

Since it makes the jitters smaller and smoother

[cinder hare]

its also whats comfortable to use on my monitor

[mossy bridge]

yknow

[sand sluice]

Now adays it's more 800

[mossy bridge]

i dont think i've touched the settings once

for marathon

[sand sluice]

I mean

If you have less than 60fps you might wanna keep motion blur on

[neat nest]

I play on some ungodly gamer dpi my mouse defaults to but I cut sens to 12

[mossy bridge]

yuechy

hate motion blur

[sand sluice]

Then you should go change it lol

[mossy bridge]

idek my FPS

[cinder hare]

im fairly certain that the like tremors/shakyness dont affect my gameplay outside of high tension

[sand sluice]

Since it's on by default IIRC

[mossy bridge]

i've just

never bothered to check

[distant zinc]

i got told “don’t jump over that railing it’ll kill you” and then proceeded to jump over said railing and say “oh! it’s that one” the second i hit the floor 😭

[mossy bridge]

lmao

outpost?

[distant zinc]

yeah

[mossy bridge]

outpost is so gorgeous i cant blame you

[sand sluice]

Ohhhh, then yeah practicing or just playing until you shake off the tension would help a lot

[wraith vector]

I've seen some people turn to friendliness in desperation to finish some quests

[neat nest]

(9000?)

[neat nest]

Lethal skybox

[sand sluice]

What is your 360 cm? Lol

[neat nest]

About 11 inches iirc

[distant zinc]

absolute freak shit

[neat nest]

My mouse maxes out at 18,000 dpi haha

I use… one of the middle default settings

[cinder hare]

lmao

[distant zinc]

i love going there on rook runs with no hud to just drink it all in

[neat nest]

I need to turn the sens WAY down in every game

[sand sluice]

Ahh that's not toooo crazy

[cinder hare]

this is my mouse settings

[sand sluice]

Yeah this is considered standard "pro" settings

[wraith vector]

The real pro is basing this all on vibes alone

[cinder hare]

this is a really funny setting i use

[sand sluice]

I think mine was 34 cm

[wraith vector]

If you can hit them, you can hit them

[distant zinc]

my mouse settings are “whatever feels right” and “maybe a little to the left here”

[cinder hare]

but thats for the finals

you need to be hella fast for that game to work

and i play sword which means its less accuracy and more positioning

here's what i use for marathon lol

[sand sluice]

So

As a heads up

[neat nest]

This but I also fucked with stuff for a while to make my Widowmaker in and out of scope sens the same

[cinder hare]

which also happens to be the most comfortable for me

[neat nest]

Long ago

[sand sluice]

That alone can mess up your aim and cause you to overexert yourself some if you tense up

[cinder hare]

though i might try setting it to like, 55 billion dpi, 0.1 sens

alternatively it might not be aim but habits from being a melee main in most games

[mossy bridge]

time to try the railgun

the ares specifically

[sand sluice]

Well I mean, you said yourself it's more high tension

[cinder hare]

im fairly certain its aim stuff

but i cant be completely certain

[sand sluice]

Well there's two parts to it

The first part is not practicing and not building the mechanical skill

The second part is trying to make up for it because you don't feel you're doing enough

There's some mental stack parts to it that you kinda cultivate depending on your natural gameflow

It's why people like Lvndmark are as good as they are at tarkov, he specifically has a good mental stack when playing tarkov.

Pestily is the same way.

I'd argue pestily is better at the mental stack but that's cause he's older in age so he makes up for skill on just thinking better

[mossy bridge]

got one kill with it

died

whatever

it was burning a hole in my inventory

[sand sluice]

But yeah if you think it's aim stuff I'd def say practice a bit on aimlabs or something

If you don't want to do that I'd def say just w key until you start to shake off the tension

[distant zinc]

yeah free kit w key is the strat

[neat nest]

Def

I got through a lot of my fight jitters when they did Dangerous Days

[distant zinc]

sometimes when i want a quick rush i just load up a mida kit and literally don’t even bother looting just run straight at the closest gunfire

[cinder hare]

probably just gonna free kit w key

im really fucking good at shredding UESC now

[distant zinc]

win now or later it doesn’t matter to me

[cinder hare]

knife is so strong ngl

[sand sluice]

Fun fact most people are just UESC but in different spots on the screen

UESC is better at dodging than players most of the time lmao

They'll Tokyo drift around corners

Players tend to not do that

[distant zinc]

it’s fucking crazy

[wraith vector]

Bungie is a firm believer in Melee for fpses

And I stand by this

[cinder hare]

melee is actually stronger imo, than the WSTR

you just need upgrades

[distant zinc]

i gotta level up the arachne melee

[cinder hare]

i need myself knife fight

it goes so fucking hard when you can fly into someone and fist em

[distant zinc]

a blue knife fight turns every fight into doom

[sand sluice]

Why do you say that?

[cinder hare]

opportunity cost

you could bring a different gun instead, a maxed knife will 2 shot purples

with autoaim

most of it is the perfect auto aim

[distant zinc]

yeah the autoaim does a lot

[neat nest]

Wstr kills faster from further out

[sand sluice]

Oh did they find that out when they tested that in the video?

[sharp plover]

I think I'm using entirely default settings except for max fov

[neat nest]

Though honestly if I’m using the wstr I’m probably using both

[sand sluice]

I hadn't watched it so wouldn't know

[neat nest]

A maxed knife is also a relatively steep investment

[cinder hare]

you do have to double right click, but it is 60+SHELL+IMPLANTS

which, with a blue knife fight, equals 115 average

[sand sluice]

Oh double right click wstr is better

If you mean cost

Yeah free always better

[cinder hare]

also the fact that aiming is hard

[sand sluice]

....I mean

Skill difficulty comes in at like

[distant zinc]

the real solution is just use both lmao

[sand sluice]

Knife means you have to have good positioning and movement

[cinder hare]

tbf when i play destroyer im playing him like a movement shooter

[sand sluice]

Shotgun just means close enough

[neat nest]

I fuckin suck with the wstr

My aim is pretty good normally but I can’t aim it for shit lol

[distant zinc]

i’m smoking that devious V1 pack it’s crazy

[sand sluice]

Can you double dash with his air dash?

[cinder hare]

im going to fucking jump you (and overshoot by a bit)

[cinder hare]

dont think so

[distant zinc]

yeah i don’t think you can

[neat nest]

I think he’s got a core for it but otherwise no

[distant zinc]

it’s fantastic for throwing off people, getting super aggro, or backing after a kill in a team fight

much more versatile than vandal tho her movement is more fun imo

[neat nest]

Just crazy good move yeah

[sand sluice]

My thing for knife is

If you can't kill in 1 knife combo you will lose to anyone with decent enough aim

Otherwise go nuts

And I am 100% in support of choosing knife over shotgun for choosing a different gun

Personally I'd like to know ttks of all the guns so I could make more mindful loadout choices

[cinder hare]

im personally knife > wstr when used right

auto aim does a ton

using no ammo does a lot

[sand sluice]

Well yeah

Any option > any other option when used right

If you grenade into knife combo fairly sure you just win

[distant zinc]

idk there’s something about the feeling of the WSTR that can’t be beat

[sand sluice]

I'm a bit indifferent towards it

[distant zinc]

a certain je ne sais quoi

[sand sluice]

But tbf it's clear bungie is making weapons between like

Generalist, then pvp, then pve weapons

And the wstr is not a pve weapon

[distant zinc]

yeah not at all

the best gun is the m77 that thing fucking tears up everything

[sand sluice]

That's what it feels like

But I'm surprised it's so cheap

[distant zinc]

lowkey my favorite in the game other than maybe the magnum or HPR

[sand sluice]

HPR is very silly

[sand sluice]

Oh to be clear

You should try to get a stack of the shadow strike mods

[cinder hare]

mmm

[sand sluice]

https://tauceti.gg/db/cores/shadow-strike

I'm fairly sure with this knife will delete people faster than everything else in the game

[neat nest]

This one’s fucked up with everything stacked

[cinder hare]

prestige

[neat nest]

I forget all what you need or if it’s been nerfed

[cinder hare]

i havent even seen one yet 😭

[neat nest]

But there was an assassin knoife build which one shot at any levels of shield

[sand sluice]

There's also silent strike

Which is increased knife damage from cloak when behind

So if you stack both I assume 1 tap on players

[neat nest]

It’s that and the one (implant iirc) which makes the knife ignore shields

[cinder hare]

what the fuck

[sand sluice]

Lol

[cinder hare]

thats OP as shit

[sand sluice]

There's probably more bonkers destroyer build with his ult

[neat nest]

It’s only on heavy attack and maybe has some other rider

But it was very strong

[cinder hare]

your first melee should be heavy anyways lol

[neat nest]

Should it be? The wind down is so long

[cinder hare]

ok more specifically, a 2/3 hit combo will work best against grey or green shields

but blue shields need a double heavy iirc

[neat nest]

Ah ok

[cinder hare]

https://medal.tv/games/marathon/clips/mgI9R5gTb08eZahtw?invite=cr-MSxqc2wsNDE4NTg1MzY5&v=60
https://medal.tv/games/marathon/clips/mgIph6gO4M6HqOa-s?invite=cr-MSw2cGwsNDE4NTg1MzY5&v=60

i think these should embed?

yeah these are some clips someone got where they were knifing

granted their enemies were totally unprepared to fight in the first clip but the idea remains

[distant zinc]

there’s a really funny build that shoots rockets when your shield gets hit and also gives you shield energy back

[indigo oriole]

So glad i can still extrac while downed

It was uh. Hairy.

[cinder hare]

i think the second clip is more indicative of how knifing vs blues works

since the first one will shield break

[indigo oriole]

I refused to die i found 13 diodes

[cinder hare]

while if you can confirm HP or shield break from a different range then you want to go for the light combo

[sand sluice]

https://youtu.be/Xtr_R2SE1j0

[neat nest]

Silly mode recon (by onion23d on Twitter)

[cinder hare]

I KNEW IT 30+MOD

[sand sluice]

well this also means that

[cinder hare]

yeah recon seems to be everyone's favorite yuri gal

[sand sluice]

melee combo is better than 2x heavy because it's same damage but faster

[sharp plover]

i do wonder if they'll add shells that play with the loadout, like a melee focused shell with a sword, or a shell with more or fewer slots of certain kindw

[neat nest]

That has not been my experience but she’s fun

[cinder hare]

SWORD SHELL SWORD SHELL SWORD SHELL

[cinder hare]

listen ive seen so fucking much recon kissing

[sharp plover]

they could even do the destiny thing and give the sword ammo bc of scifi reasons

[distant zinc]

i’ve seen a lot of vandalposting

[sharp plover]

to prevent it from being too much better

[distant zinc]

that might just be a me thing tho

[neat nest]

Yeah I’ve seen more Vandal and Thief than Recon

[sand sluice]

I've seen more Vandal

[distant zinc]

they should make a shell with more nade slots

[sand sluice]

but that's for obvious reasons

[sharp plover]

I mean, you can quick swap equipment

[distant zinc]

yeah tru

[sharp plover]

actually shell based dedicated inventory would be funny

"four extra inventory spaces but only ammo/meds/valuables"

[sand sluice]

I need to play more

because I'm still unsure about the med/ammo changes

and if they're good enough then I can finally get off triage and play a different shell in solos

[neat nest]

I play recon in solos cause im weird

[sand sluice]

I mean

anti-assassin

so

[neat nest]

Infinite heat grenades

[sand sluice]

what

on the seeker drone

[neat nest]

Yeah

I just throw em at people or UESC

Take some tac cooldown in your build and the cooldown is short

I NEED cluster drone

[wraith vector]

I'd love for another pass at the drone pathing

Watched it walk past an enemy and down a flight of stairs off to.. ???

[neat nest]

https://wzstats.gg/marathon/items/cores/cluster-payload

[tawdry sequoia]

the targeting on the triage drone is scuffed too

[neat nest]

lol

[wraith vector]

Let us throw the recon drone with the same gusto, Triage really flings that medibot

[sand sluice]

I hate dire marsh

[neat nest]

I love it but I get you

[sand sluice]

I'm trying to hate it less

but then it surprises me

and I continue to hate it

[neat nest]

And I think the boosted gunshot range may be hurting it

[sand sluice]

always something with diremarsh

[wraith vector]

My main issue with Dire Marsh is I seem to have far less sniper rifles than everyone else in the game

[sand sluice]

I mean as someone who is on the current upper end of pvp this is a gr8 change for me

I 100% think it's a dumb change though

[wraith vector]

They made shots louder?

[sand sluice]

they travel farther soundwise yes

I have 0 idea why they did this

if they meant to make it easier for casual play then like, good job I guess? it's now easier for w-key pvpers to w key you

my guess is to make suppressors more useful

[neat nest]

I think it was a misdiagnosis of why people complained about there being too little PvP early on

[sand sluice]

but since we don't know the ranges already it's hard to say how so

[neat nest]

When it was actually people being slow and scared and not picking fights at first

[cosmic flame]

yeah

[sand sluice]

I mean

also just quest pathing

[cosmic flame]

dire marsh in particular is just third party city though

[sand sluice]

until you hit dire marsh midas quests you don't see how much pvp really goes on

[cosmic flame]

bizarrely as time goes on i appreciate perimeter more for being kind of a pain to get places sometimes

[sand sluice]

and then you hit it and it's like "wow I can't move 5 feet without being shot at"

[neat nest]

I solid snaked my first dire marsh mida it was awesome

1 combatant kill
0 runner kills
+700 credits in n out

[cosmic flame]

because what it also means is that if you hear shots you generally can't w+m1 to a place you can see the shooting

[sand sluice]

I just wiped everyone my first time, I just couldn't find the obj

then I got some bad runs

but eventually I did it

then I found out about sekiguchi 4/5

and ya know

good old

terminal in a room

and then grays with shotguns

and then a purple

and me just going "ah yeah typical dire marsh gameplay"

but tbf everything about dire marsh irks me

but I also just can't make scorch warden fight me

I want to do lockdowns

but I don't have the built in anti-tox maxxed out yet

but like I said I need to meme about with vandal more

see if I can survive with the med/ammo changes in solo

cause right now triage is super good for sustain

[woeful tundra]

is sparkleaf used for anything?

[neat nest]

NuCaloric will give you 3 shield recharges for a Sparkleaf

[woeful tundra]

sorry, let me rephrase

is sparkleaf used for any upgrades

it says "used for faction upgrades and barter" when I mouse over it

what upgrades

[sand sluice]

hold on lemme pull the thing

[woeful tundra]

ah no I see it. 16 sparkleaf for safeguard+

[sand sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1360700632998215701/1480722027563454666/RDT_20260309_1920236231313634388248392.jpg?ex=69b40119&is=69b2af99&hm=c465f2b4505805c53f2d2ff062ffb6f1e2f773fda588a777ef49dd7271df7b42

Unless you mean the specific upgrades

[neat nest]

Aha, it’s used for 3, buy advanced shield charges, but blue shields, and buy self rez

https://tauceti.gg/factions/nucaloric/upgrades

[sand sluice]

yeh was just pulling that up myself lol

[neat nest]

This site isn’t totally complete but it has a good breakdown of faction upgrades

Oh I guess there’s a couple others

[sand sluice]

obedience matrix and the shell ids are used exclusively for keys from cyac IIRC

[woeful tundra]

Can someone tell me about the scav from tarkov? I'm curious as to the design inspirations

[sharp plover]

tarkov scav is random low tier gear and youre allied with the npc scavs (who are the standard enemies)

[woeful tundra]

What does allied mean exactly

Can you not kill them?

How does tarkov handle teams

[cinder hare]

I believe they just spawn together and otherwise there’s no difference

[neat nest]

They don’t shoot you unless you shoot them aiui

There’s also scav faction rep which can go down but I don’t know Tarkov all that well

[cinder hare]

Yeah just checked your team spawns together but there’s no IFF or anything

[neat nest]

You mean as PMCs?

[sand sluice]

in general npc scavs in tarkov will not attack you assuming you have positive fence rep (scav rep)

however, bosses require 6 or more fence rep to not attack you

if the bosses attack you, the npc scavs will attack you

if you kill scavs you lose rep, unless they are marked as a traitor scav because they killed another scav.

NPC scavs are never traitor scavs, only player scavs can be traitor scavs.

For teams, your queue'd team spawns together with no identifiers above their heads, so most people keep track by comms and armbands, scavs you don't get to use armbands so you have to rely on comms

[cinder hare]

Yeah

[sharp plover]

yeah any player can kill any player in tarkov

[sand sluice]

there's a bunch of specific goofy interactions that can occur with this btw, in example, if the goons target you, technically they're scav bosses in code so they can cause npc scavs to aggro you even though you lose 0 rep for killing the goons

because again, tarkov is a mess

[woeful tundra]

Gotcha thanks guys

[cinder hare]

i thought about if marathon had friendly fire but i realize its design would not work at all with trios

because then there's a bit of an incentive to be a "traitor" if your teammate has purples

[sand sluice]

it would be so funny but yeah don't think it could work due to how triage ult works

[sharp plover]

i accidentally spent a bunch of my first trio run in the slam accidentally shooting one of my teammates because i wa jumpy

[neat nest]

Friendly fire is on when you’re doing Rook Pal Ops though

[cinder hare]

like you play until exfil then you pull out your WSTR and backstab them and then you backstab them

[sharp plover]

so its very good theres no friendly fire

[neat nest]

Yes I did get shot in the back by mistake

[cinder hare]

i think thats fair asf

[sharp plover]

(though the person getting shot does get feedback)

[cinder hare]

thank god for outpositioning

ive gotten a good number of kills from stalking and playing audio

[mossy bridge]

oh cool they reduced the price of the premium track of the pass

from 1120 to 1000

[split apex]

Anybody been using the LMGs a fair bit?

[final onyx]

https://klipy.com/gifs/arakune-blazblue

i have

and idk what this gif is but i assure you its a joke abt arachne

his name is arakune

[split apex]

Lol

[neat nest]

Yeah

They’re ammo hogs but I like em

[split apex]

I thought they were awful at first but it turns out they're one of those weapons that really need mods to shine

A fully kitted Retaliator is beastly

Assault Shield in particular is crazy

[cinder hare]

Gonna do a lot of pvp today

Gonna go into dire with the sole goal of shredding people

Perimeter to farm volt batts and kill wardens solo

[distant zinc]

lowkey my crutch weapon

a nice retaliator with a shield lets me compensate for my lack of skill with volume of fire

[split apex]

Legit

I've also been finding this lol

[indigo oriole]

sometimes sending a storm of bullets in someones direction gets them to back off

[neat nest]

Which one is the retaliator?

[split apex]

The basic light LMG that UESC Assaults drop

[neat nest]

Ahh

I’ve been on a Conquest kick

Really like it now

[split apex]

The Conquest is the other one which has the spooling RoF

[cosmic flame]

i do not fw the sweet business in the slightest but the retaliator has been pretty reliable

[neat nest]

I like how it’s an ugly dmr if you tapfire it

And it can laser people if you’re crouched

[distant zinc]

i like it because it’s dirt cheap

it’s become my go-to budget gun on destroyer

[sand sluice]

I use all guns, wassup?

[mossy bridge]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/MarathonTheGame/comments/1rrwdaz/the_interaction_doesnt_work_for_acquire_active/

ran into this exact bug

exact same spot

[sand sluice]

Oh that spot ye

Gotta do it again IIRC

[random vessel]

fascinating how cyberpunk like all of the background lore is

the original games were never like this, wonder what made them make the jump

[sharp plover]

i mean, the original games are filled with dystopian and cyberpunk lore, its just not really plot relevant

remember that Durandal exists to open and close doors

and the only reason some doors on the Marathon are manually operated is because it saved them money on sensors

[random vessel]

i guess it never came off as overly cyberpunk-ish in the originals, more conventionally 90s pseudo-hard scifi

[mossy bridge]

the setting had people hollowing out asteroids and reanimating corpses to use as cargo ships and super soldiers respectively

[random vessel]

Yeah that always came off as like

[mossy bridge]

it has been 30 years

so

id expect an evolution

[sharp plover]

300 years

[random vessel]

Speculative scifi whereas now they seem to be all-in on the gits style cyborg crime

[twin rain]

it might've been the fleshing out of the concept of the "runner" as a distributed disposable mercenary

[random vessel]

Yeah I'm not knocking the idea

[twin rain]

"how do we incorporate this into the broader story"

[mossy bridge]

Also bioroids are super regulated

[random vessel]

Yeah I'm aware

[mossy bridge]

and potentially ||jjaro technology||

[random vessel]

I like the idea of the runners being shitty petty criminals

you're motoko kusanagi except on the other side

[indigo oriole]

yeah in marathon you're playing Super Robot Officer

but in marathon we're playing a bunch of brain-jacked runner merc weirdos

[sharp plover]

for example;

On January 6, 2345(Earth A.D.), at the United Earth Government
Misriah food distribution center, what had begun as
a commonplace food riot turned into a massacre.  The UEG riot
troopers who arrived at the scene had been informed that
the rioters were armed.  As UEG troopers approached the scene
in their Randal Hovertank, plasma fire began spraying upwards.
In a flash decision, the commander of the Hovertank ordered
his crew to open fire upon the crowd. It took only five
seconds for over five hundred starving Martians to be
incinerated.

In the ensuing investigation of the Hovertank Vid-cams, it was
clear that only three of the rioters were armed, and that the
rest of the crowd was trying to flee the scene.  Those three
became known as the Misriah Three.  They have gone down in
history for starting the most destructive and bloody conflict
since Humanity had left Earth.  However, it is clear that
these three have gained the credit for starting a war that
would have happened anyway.```

(from a terminal on the 5th level of M1)

[twin rain]

personally I don't think there's a bigger reason besides "I think it's cool lol" for any of the changes

it's sort of a convergent evolution of that era of sci-fi towards the modern definition of "cyberpunk" (plus it's also in vogue because of Society)

[sharp plover]

but also, honestly, we only get a very small number of glimpses into life in Sol in the original trilogy, and a good chunk of it is the terminal about CRISTs and the terminal about MIDA/the Third Martian War (the one that's an excerpt from)

[twin rain]

(except for the genre switch which is most certainly a Marketing decision)

[sharp plover]

"mars got fucked like, so bad, guys"

[twin rain]

yeah it is also a thing of like, they just didn't have the opportunity for expositional text like we do in modern games (for better or worse)

[sharp plover]

well, there are tons of terminals besides the mandatory ones, theyre just mostly about whats currently happening (more or less)

[random vessel]

i forget if it was ever stated how widespread runners are back home

[twin rain]

yeah but there's not a lore blurb for each gun that has a short story attached not related to the gun (as opposed to the current runner lore attached to a cosmetic microtransaction)

[random vessel]

shells do have terminal entries for playing them enough that expounds on them

i found one for recon but couldn't find any others online

[cinder hare]

Wdym dlc lore

[neat nest]

They don't seem super rare, the blurbs talk about various ways they're used

Expensive specialized chassis but in private hands

[random vessel]

makes sense

there's something amusing about the idea of these fully realized transhumans being employed in like any other direct action goon

[neat nest]

Shells get used in a lot of things

[sharp plover]

yeah i think the expensive part is the runners themselves

[twin rain]

not 100% sure what you mean, but I was referencing how the text snippet that kojima posted was from the White Rabbit skin

[random vessel]

only they keep the experience after being shot in the chest three times and killed by a cop

[neat nest]

The old ARG talks about a mining accident where a bunch of mining shells get obliterated but it's ok cause they're backed up

[cinder hare]

Oh that’s free to read

[random vessel]

Oh yeah wasn't there some stuff about sekiguchi selling shells in that too, makes me wonder if those are more full body prosthesis compared to our shells

[neat nest]

I get the sense they're sort of common but the shells we're using are fairly high end

[sharp plover]

also theyre even more useful places other than TC4 because the anomaly doesnt fuck up the sync and give a hard time limit on use time

[cinder hare]

If you open any skin the lore is right there

[sharp plover]

(because yes, the in-game time limit is diagetic)

[twin rain]

I know, I'm not saying it's paywalled, I'm saying that the skins have lore. which is ludicrous.

[sharp plover]

why? they all exist in-universe, why wouldnt they have lore

[twin rain]

it's fun, don't get me wrong. but there's so much expositional text in contrast to the original game

and I'm not complaining

[neat nest]

I mean there's more but there's a bunch there as well

Like a third of the terminals are just random setting facts iirc

[sharp plover]

1/3 random exposition, 1/3 durandal ranting or shitposting, 1/3 actual mission details

[cosmic flame]

if I didnt have cogent timelines from the likes of mandy and hamish I think it would be like 1/100000000 mission details you can actually parse, especially in infinity

[sharp plover]

https://i.imgur.com/3eKFaKa.png

[neat nest]

power airlocks huh

[sharp plover]

this is the 2nd of three terminals on CSFSC

the first is Durandal waxing poetic about mortality and rampancy, the third is where he drops Escape Will Make Me God

[cosmic flame]

8000000 switches,

[sharp plover]

Durandal wishes he built A Converted Church In Venice, Italy

[split apex]

<@&1474420814979010821> looking for a 3rd (probably running outpost after we warm up)

[neat nest]

in a cain game rn

[craggy laurel]

This might be a shot in the dark. But is it possible the Misriah shotgun in new Marathon is named after this or a similar event?

[sharp plover]

almost definitely, yes

[craggy laurel]

I can join in a few!

[sharp plover]

or at least the Martian city of that name

(as is Misriah Armory from Halo)

[neat nest]

It's a fucked up shotgun name

[split apex]

Cool cool, we've got a channel going when you're ready

[cinder hare]

30 minutes fine?

[split apex]

we got one already, sorry

[sharp plover]

technically both the WSTR and Misriah 2442 are double references, both to the WST-M5 and the Misriah Massacre, but also the Halo shotguns made by Weapon Systems Technology [Halo 1, 2 and 3] and Misriah Armory [Halo Reach]

(but Misriah also makes a LOT of other stuff in Halo)

oh, including the rocket launcher, which is named for the Marathon rocket launcher

[wraith vector]

they really, really need to give us a damage recap that isn't just numbers

[cinder hare]

@sand sluice ok i dont think its aim but rather playing vs groups

my left hand is numb rn

[wraith vector]

i gotta say now that people can't just use the free entrance Outpost has to be my favorite map

it's so complicated an exciting and ogh the aesthetic is blended perfectly

also Rook Paradise

[neat nest]

Yeah it's so good

[warm sage]

<@&1474420814979010821> anyone up to escape and become god?

looking to do Parasitism 4 and 5

[slate field]

I'm also looking to do Parasitism 5

I'll join you in a bit, need to grab a bite to eat first

[neat nest]

I am tentatively down but not sure when I am available

[warm sage]

timeframe? I can wait

[cinder hare]

sure why not

[warm sage]

we;'re in VC

[split apex]

TRIPLE FEED

[neat nest]

damb

[warm sage]

still waiting on a 3rd for anyone whos up

[neat nest]

I don't have one

[warm sage]

ahh rough

[split apex]

absolute clencher of a series of team fights

final down was me charging a thief with a knife

[neat nest]

im being slayed

[pale flare]

started this fight by collateralling two people from opposite teams, too

[placid oxide]

I'd be down

[obsidian latch]

https://tenor.com/view/arachne-marathon-marathon-arachne-gif-14099185705004783445

[cosmic flame]

martonnnn

[warm sage]

@slate field #Archenn9630

[slate field]

Zulnahdwiin#1530

[obsidian latch]

(AlexB207Swag)

[neat nest]

https://tenor.com/view/hungergames-sacrifice-salute-tribute-katnisseverdeen-gif-12970393312180920965

I wanted a saluting gif

[obsidian latch]

True

[neat nest]

but what the hell is this

[obsidian latch]

No no, this is perfect

[wintry shuttle]

I have been playing for seven days now.

Every run that I've done...Further convinces me that I am a closeted masochist.

Because. I. Just. Keep. Going. Back.

[cosmic flame]

i just keep logging into the lose everything factory

jesus fucking christ i can never ever ever ever ever be allowed anywhere near a casino bro

[wintry shuttle]

I can be near a casino

But I probably need to take a break soon.

I'm hearing the extract noise in my sleep.

Also, Recon?

Goals.

So, so goals.

[slate field]

<@&1474420814979010821> Looking for a 3rd to do the Parasitism 5 contract

[neat nest]

I can hop on for a run or two 1 sec

[warm sage]

I guess you could say that lobby got...

DESTROYED

[neat nest]

crazy intersection fight

people might have cracked the last arg code

[placid oxide]

Think they did

Apparently with a solution they thought they had tried almost a day ago lol

Also broke an 8 attempt streak to get 2 rods from Maintenance and I want to die

[warm sage]

this run was genuinely batshit it was so good

we got into a fight with half the lobby and we didn't even realize

[neat nest]

Intersection is where dreams go to die but someone has to kill em

[placid oxide]

Sound changes have definitely impacted how often it feels like half the map winds up coming to hang

[warm sage]

no fr

[neat nest]

Yeah I don't dislike the new version as much as the internet seems to be I prefer the older more isolated ones

[split apex]

yeah our triple team kill was at Intersection too lmao

[warm sage]

we loaded in with 3 lmgs and WSTRs and well

yeah that went as well for everyone else involved as it possibly could've

[neat nest]

It wasn't even a pvp scrum we hit people doing the traxus commander quest and the injection one

half the lobby just routed through Intersection

[neat nest]

Did you do it?

If not I have a tip

[placid oxide]

I did finally

[neat nest]

Well perhaps someone else can benefit

[placid oxide]

Is the tip "murder everyone at Algae Pond" and then run the contract?

[neat nest]

Bio-Research has guaranteed arms lockers and arms lockers almost always have deimosite rods

So you can ditch maintainance and get them from there if you spawn far

[warm sage]

we ended up in the literal WORST spot for that fight too

[slate field]

Yeah, that east-side entrance is a death funnel

[warm sage]

we we're in between the highground from Algae and the gate building

[neat nest]

Yeah in retrospect we never should have gone there

Who popped those smokes btw?

Was it one of you or enemies?

[warm sage]

I DONT KNOW LMAO

[neat nest]

lmfao