assassin's kit forces an advantage
#Marathon
cinder hare
sand sluice
I think I've only ran into two situations where an assassin got me from the kit. One time I didn't play to info correctly and didn't realize he got to go fill invis even tho I heard the footsteps (misplay on my part).
The other time was using cloak to get past usec which is like, lmao fair, rooks are goated for that too
cinder hare
vandal and thief are pretty similar in terms of movement capabilities
except vandal is wayyyyy better at spamming it
cinder hare
i hate corner assassins
sand sluice
It's kind of like how recon's goofy ping also sends a ping visual letting other peolle know she's pinging
cinder hare
it's a PAIN
sand sluice
fucking corner assassins with WSTRs in solos
I mean for me I just use grenades
Unless it's like broken audio
Which like happens but at that point I GTFO
And the assassin can't get close anymore
Or they play like the one goober
And try to sneak up on me in the middle of me fighting wraith warden
And then donate their shotgun to me
cinder hare
no like the assassin sits in a corner and hides until you walk by and then you're dead
sand sluice
The most dangerous assassins are ones with longshot
sand sluice
no like the assassin sits in a corner and hides until you walk by and then you'r...
Just like, in the middle of no where?
cinder hare
usually in a big poi
sand sluice
Cause at that point anybody can do that
cinder hare
like hauler, etc
sand sluice
Oh big poi just play for the corners
cinder hare
it's always assassins who do that
sand sluice
Yeah but they're bad and die to knowledge checks
cinder hare
wdym
also i think its funny how people complain about no tac at spawn
because Sekiguchi exists
sand sluice
So in tarkov you can have similar-ish issue but how most players deal with corner rats is by either prefiring corners or abusing movement tech.
In marathon the trick is to mainly play for corners where you assume someone is around each corner and have gun ready to fire.
Doesn't mean you win but a lot of assassin players are bad and can fuck up
cinder hare
hmm oki
sand sluice
Cause they don't push from their rat spots
It's a bit of a reaction check tho cause again, 2 shots with the shotgun means they win but ideally you're already laying into them before they get the first shot off
If you have a longer angle that means they have to move, you eat the first shot, backpedal super hard and toss grenades backwards and hope for the best
If they don't run into grenades you just bail since that means they're hoping to shoot you as you come back, if they turn into the grenades it just depends on damage at that point (not unlikely to trade)
If they're smart theyre already moving around and play to audio and catch you before you catch them but I usually see that from sniping assassin players
cinder hare
mmm
sand sluice
Ofc if you know theyre there for any reason, just grenades lol
Also def knowing your gun
grave pebble
reeeeally wish you could sell trash faction rewards from the rank up screen
sand sluice
Volley, brrt, any long ranged weapon I believe is slower ttk than the overrun AR
But they have their own benefits
And arguably speaking, most people can't land consistent headshots with the AR
I'd have to double check the numbers tho
But yeah no shotgun corner camping is OP and them playing as assassin is funny cause I would argue the other chars can do more with it due to their movement if they wanna force fights
But also I think a lot of people get overwhelmed by an assassin just rushing them after smoke spam
When the answer is just to run like crazy cause you're either same speed or faster
Oh also check for TADs everywhere
grave pebble
am I reading the weapon trace status thing correctly? After you loot a gun 4 times you can't pick it up anymore?
that seems....really fucking stupid
sand sluice
Wdym?
grave pebble
sand sluice
I have never seen that thing before
I'm actually not against it for being a durability thing
But also
Very specific mechanic lol
grave pebble
i could understand converting it to credits on exfil, but if it gets auto-converted when you pick it up, it seems fairly idiotic
sand sluice
Yeh Idk
grave pebble
(also do you retain the mods when it gets destroyed?)
fallow coyote
It's kind of like how recon's goofy ping **also** sends a ping visual letting ot...
wait do other people actually see that
sand sluice
I do
Idk about others
I assume they do
unless I'm seeing something else
cause I know I see the tad pings and the purple kill pings
fallow coyote
i'm pretty sure only the recon and her team see it?
like i've been pinged before with her ability and didn't know it
or rather i didn't see the visual and only knew because i got the ping indicator from the recon passive
sand sluice
I've no idea, I've seen the blue pings and the non blue pings
the blue pings are from the TADs
I always thought the non blue pings were recon since they repeat unlike the commander defeat ping
grave pebble
ok, apparently this might be per-item and not account-wide? Which would make a lot more sense, it can only change hands x number of times to prevent lootflation
cinder hare
ahhhhhhhhh
distant zinc
ok, apparently this might be per-item and not account-wide? Which would make a l...
yeah it’s per item, if a gun changes hands more than four times it gets turned into creds
grave pebble
the faction intros remind me so much of the MGSV PMC ads
sand sluice
having done so many quests on dire marsh
you really go to the same exact locations crossing the entire map for each quest over and over
also sekiguchi 4/5 on dire marsh is funny
spawning in purple ghost and multiple usec with shotguns in a room with 2 pillars for cover
and then locks you in there
ivory laurel
Unsure if true, but it feels like Ratsassins are more common in solo vs squads
sand sluice
they are
that's why I always kill every assassin I see unless they specifically are friendly with me first
ivory laurel
Nona was raised on Jaeger questlines
grave pebble
i still need to finish my sekiguchi intro quest
sand sluice
Nona was raised on Jaeger questlines
some of those are easier lmao
grave pebble
spawned into outpost once, got left behind by the team while i looked for the obj in flight control, and got instaganked in less than a minute
they are not playing down there
sand sluice
just go solo outpost and do it
in terms of difficulty outpost is easier than dire marsh
dire marsh is just pain
wide open areas
people spawn next to eachother
constant vision blocking things in your way makes thermals even more OP
grave pebble
in my experience you don't get into that many fights out in the open? But i've only played about three rounds in DM
sand sluice
all objs are next to various UESC
grave pebble
like, the natural state for runners to encounter each other in is when two groups start looting the same poi
sand sluice
in my experience you don't get into that many fights out in the open? But i've o...
dire marsh solos specifically
and it's honestly safer to take out other runners before they get a chance to notice you
grave pebble
ahhhh right. do solos queue with teams or what? (not including rook, i realise that's his gimmick)
sand sluice
solo queue is solo queue, no teams
grave pebble
right.
sand sluice
it's honestly best for all maps except dire marsh
and dire marsh is just half luck on getting spawn killed by somebody with any long ranged weapon and then half luck on not somehow dying to something when doing quests
you can take any gear, anything less than purple runs the risk of just dying to bad luck
both outpost and perimeter are at least somewhat controllable compared to dire marsh imo
but tbf both of those maps have less wide open areas
grave pebble
i'm still slowly amassing my blues, but i should probably start trying my luck with lockboxes
honestly, the thing i need the most of are basic upgrade mats like unstable diodes
because that's always the first thing i toss when i find a shiny piece of gear
sand sluice
with how loot has been
Outpost pinwheel/(assumingly Tox Warden) > Scorch Warden/Locked rooms > UESC secured containers/wraith warden > tox rooms > lockboxes
like you can get blue brrt smg and blue backpack from wraith warden consistently
but you blow through so much ammo and wraith doesn't spawn all the time
UESC secured containers are more random but having blue/purp enemies spawn in to protect them means you can get blue shield and other things
but this has just been my experience
kinda annoys me cause I feel like wraith warden should drop better loot
however
wraith warden does drop the os keys
so maybe those will end up being bonkers good
grave pebble
hmmm, i'm probably at a point where i could run a secured container with a half-decent team tbh
the first thing i did when i started the game is try hacking one, which caused a near-immediate squad wipe
mossy bridge
The energy weapons really are all halo guns
V22 is the needler
Punch is the plasma pistol
Ares is the Spartan laser and literally has its prestige mod called that
distant zinc
The energy weapons really are all halo guns
holy fuck lmao
sand sluice
The energy weapons really are all halo guns
sand sluice
Well how many doctors recommend them?
3 out of 10?
4 out of 10?
sand sluice
I mean...I would pay a silly amount of money for an anthro skin in marton
Artist aidelark
Also unrelated
Be mindful of the walkway bridges in north relay
One of them is bugged and occasionally will instakill you
sand sluice
Every time you desync
This is why
Keep that in mind before you blame the internet
I enjoy this game too much
Maybe not enough
sand sluice
Me when Marton
mossy bridge
Must be yummy
fibrous
surely
okay i think vandal's arm cannon needs a fucking buff
every single person i've hit with it overcharged just walks it off just god damned fine
and the punch needs a nerf holy fucking shit it just took me from full reinforced shields and full health to dead in like 2 shots
split apex
Yeah I mean it's a Disrupt Cannon, not a Kill Cannon
split apex
There are cores to buff it but it's meant to flush people out of cover or off exfils
neat nest
The best I ever did with it was a fully charged direct hit sending someone out of the fight over a wall
ivory laurel
I mostly use it as an engage or harassment. Best full charge use I've found is to use it to break up UESC groups like they were billiard balls
mossy bridge
why am i so fucking washed today
urgh
today is a free kit only day i think
also is something wrong with recon's drones? they just...
keep running around and not yknow
homing onto the enemy
like they're meant to
neat nest
They seem to sometimes get a little confused
mossy bridge
yeah
neat nest
I haven’t had a lot of issues with them but I tend to huck em right at/behind people as grenades
sand sluice
My problem is I don't have a healthy grasp on what's tilt vs what's normal exasperation
I also can't tell from which source it comes from cause too many things stress me out
So I have to like
really think if it's the game or not
neat nest
Tilting refers more specifically to when one is aggravated and the aggravation is making you play bad
(Usually causing more aggravation)
sand sluice
Oh then nah, I always generally perform the same regardless, only exception is like
Deadlock when my teammates try to ragebait the enemy and upset me in the process
Which is why I quit playing deadlock cause it was upsetting me more than tarkov was
I will say dire marsh in marathon tho frustrates me
Because good lord dire marsh is a pvp haven map rn
I expect to run into 3 people minimum on dire marsh
I only start relaxing when I've counted 4 bodies
sand sluice
wait do other people actually see that
As a heads up either marton is gaslighting us or others really can see recon pings
I didn't even consider that fact either
Her ult is actually net negative if bots are around
Because it doesn't tell you which is a player and which is a bot
sand sluice
Really? I'd have to see a video/picture to know for sure cause I haven't noticed it in the times I've ran recon.
Is it only for recon ult?
mossy bridge
sand sluice
Me here just 3 tapping the green bots with lights 
neat nest
Is it only for recon ult?
Works on the recon grenades too
I have never seen an enemy TAD ping though
sand sluice
I've seen them all
But they def need to have better visuals for identifying bots from players for recon
neat nest
In October the box on the left side of your vision (threat counter) broke it down into runners and UESC
I think they should bring that back
sand sluice
100% yeah
neat nest
As it stands recon pings can be a net negative in UESC filled spaces
sand sluice
Yeah exactly
sand sluice
mossy bridge
if that makes any sense
neat nest
In October the box on the left side of your vision (threat counter) broke it dow...
This was really nice for knowing “oh it’s a ghost squad not runners” if the reading came up zero and for determining if you’ve got a rook or a gank squad coming
sand sluice
Oh also
twin rain
It's better than if it marked runners as, well, runners thru walls
neat nest
Me here just 3 tapping the green bots with lights <:pain:585574773665300501>
There’s a long endlag on the heavy attack fwiw
sand sluice
Just so everyone here is aware
neat nest
But with a little melee damage light->heavy kills green bots
Light light heavy kills green runners too
sand sluice
Rook (once upgraded) = backpack for more looting, shotgun, scavs for picking up scraps or un-marton'd loot
Free Sponsored kits = no backpack, no shield, random weaker gun, can do contracts, bare minimum for questing.
Neither is useless
cinder hare
This was really nice for knowing “oh it’s a ghost squad not runners” if the read...
That sounds incredible ngl
neat nest
Yeah it was nice to pop it in say Hauler and see 0 runners while hearing a cacophony of footsteps
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone wanna try getting some golds in outpost?
ivory laurel
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone wanna try getting some golds in outpost?
I'd be up for it
neat nest
At work for the next few hours
cinder hare
I’ll probably be playing when you’re back Cyan
cosmic flame
neat nest
Lmfao
mossy bridge
cinder hare
mossy bridge
i find it incredibly interesting that each shell has it's own built in voice and personality
reminds me of warframe a bit with how the drifter says in multiple conversations with the hex/devil's triad that warframes tend to have a bit of the original's personality left inside
twin rain
Yeah there's a bit in one of the first couple of lore pages you get that they do have an intact "personality matrix" which helps runners adjust/acclimate to using the shell.
cinder hare
I want a volt battery, light ammo, and heavy ammo shotgun
I think a light ammo sniper would be cool too
Light ammo autoshotty would be a fun niche
@neat nest dire marsh terminals activated btw
neat nest
Oh neat
fallow coyote
this game is so fucking good...
mossy bridge
yup
fallow coyote
just wonderful peaks and valleys
rapid oscillations between its so over and we're so back
neat nest
cinder hare
truth
sand sluice
i love how arachne memes all look like this
neat nest
cinder hare
neat nest
Terminal locations for dire marsh
That cluster of three is just the killing fields lol
final onyx
thats ok for arachne contracts
sand sluice
and stab everyone
Sit next to the bottom side of it as a lot of people run by the wall from AI uplink to Maint, they should be free kills
If you want I can tell you where to sit in maint specifically for free knife kills
cinder hare
please
sand sluice
Gotcha gimme a bit
Its for sekiguchi 4/5
Basically on the south side of maint at the top you have to enter and use a terminal for like 8 seconds
Then it locks you in the room and spawns in a purple ghost and some white uesc with shotguns
You can 100% knife them while they're locked in the animation
cinder hare
ohhh gotcha
sand sluice
Yeah an assassin shot me in the back when I tried it
And I almost cold blooded murdered a vandal doing it when I went to do it in one of the following attempts
But because it wasn't an assassin shell doing it I changed my mind and tried to help by shooting the usec as they spawned outside
They died anyways
Which, might have been my fault cause I probably put them at like 25% before I came to my senses
neat nest
Are there any non-bullpups in Marathon?
I don’t remember any and I think I checked before release
But it’s way easier to check now
sharp plover
the LMGs are standard, and I think the BRRT and Repeater maybe?
id have to actually look at the reloads for those
sand sluice
Oh actually
Wanted to ask peeps
How are peeps feeling about virtually 0 gear issues given sponsored kits let you compete with green kits and below?
cinder hare
I mean I farm purple items now
sand sluice
It def pushes into the roguelike territory IMO
cinder hare
Sooooooo
sand sluice
I mean I farm purple items now
How's that going by the way? What's your vault look like?
cinder hare
Uhm lemme get home
sharp plover
Brrt is a weird P90 thing
those both (can) count!
cinder hare
Average exfil
I have about 20-25% chance of success like this
Most of it is getting ganked by an assassin whose got the high ground
It’s about 2 purples per run
cinder hare
1 purple shield, 1 purple backpack
Like 5-7 blue backpacks
A lot more mods
It’s less reliable a source of purple shield / backpack
sand sluice
Oh
Dang was hoping you found one
Shields and backpacks I still dont know what they drop from
neat nest
Is this outpost or what?
indigo oriole
love when a free kit run goes Great
neat nest
final onyx
people on perimeter have a specific contract in mind or want a relatively chill run. the other maps are murder arenas
cinder hare
Nah outpost is less murdersanity than dire imo
mossy bridge
does anyone have that key and peele sketch with "how the other factions probably talk about arachne" added onto it
it's like a wrestling promo
but the other guy is talking some insane shit about he's god's messenger
jordan peele's character becomes more and more concerned and reminds him it's a wrestling promo so they're just talking shit to hype people up
rotund bough
mossy bridge
yeah it's this but with "how the other factions talk about arachne"
indigo oriole
outpost got hands today. still havent cleared that sekiguchi intro quest. tomorrow is another day
sand sluice
people on perimeter have a specific contract in mind or want a relatively chill ...
Dire Marsh is more murderhobo-y yes
Entire map is pretty open and the cycle perpetuates because you have to stay alive for 90% of the quests whilst running all the way across the map
And no raining lava to force people to chill out
I also would say there's a bunch of people who finally get to pvp with "their" guns now that the map is wide open so they haven't had a chance to get their arachne ranks in yet
As perimeter is more varied with more close quarters stuff
So people who like longer ranged weapons that aren't the sniper rifles don't get as much of a good chance to shoot people with them
Could also be people feel they have to bring better gear in so they take less chances to lose it Idk
mossy bridge
outpost got hands today. still havent cleared that sekiguchi intro quest. tomorr...
Did the sekiguchi intro yesterday
Did the sekiguchi 1/5 quest today
Then died trying to rack up more kills for Arachne
I think I’ll just run free kits on marsh for that
Go to interchange bio research or maintenance
cinder hare
god im so fucking evil
sand sluice
sand sluice
god im so fucking evil
No such thing in extraction shooters
echo scroll
neat nest
This was me in October lol
sand sluice
I've been
So confused
Like I'm already behind my daily stuff cause just got off 11 hour shift
cinder hare
@sand sluice since youre wondering about my outpost farming
btw if theres an arg discord
also idk if this "tokenmart" thing is relevant to marathon
its very AI-centric
lots of claude, etc in the page
so see that code in the bottom left?
which gets you this
cinder hare
so see that code in the bottom left?
wait i think someone used ai to make a website using this image
neat nest
Oh that kinda makes sense
<@&1474420814979010821> I got time for a few, looking at some contracts or maybe venturing into mats grinding haha
cinder hare
One hour roughly before I can play
craggy laurel
I'm down, trying to do Traxus 2, but am good for anything
neat nest
I'm good for traxus 2 I could use the rep
My headset is still updating so I'll be a few mins
(I thought it would be faster lol)
craggy laurel
lol No worries!
tawdry sequoia
neat nest
I'm in voice now
grave pebble
<@&1474420814979010821> I got time for a few, looking at some contracts or maybe...
i'm down in a few minutes if you still got room, but it sounds like you're full?
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone else for a run?
neat nest
i'm down in a few minutes if you still got room, but it sounds like you're full?
no longer full!
neat nest
nw
grave pebble
Sunn Bro#3165
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone else for a run?
Sure
cinder hare
grave pebble
@cinder hare free now if you are btw!
cinder hare
<@634903819792416778> free now if you are btw!
sure
sharp plover
solo run on a sponsored kit and i didnt even see any other players https://i.imgur.com/Hhwqflo.png https://i.imgur.com/NBHiH6W.jpeg
cinder hare
@neat nest surv 5
sharp plover
(Perimeter, doing Data Recon 1)
neat nest
Joy is, to the best of my knowledge, the colony child support AI
And exists basically to help them networked into a bunch of plush toys
With the colony fallen and no one left Joy is super lonely and bereft of purpose
sharp plover
... is Joy the cat?
twin rain
unlikely
cinder hare
Durandal is most likely Bingus, out of all the AIs in KA11
neat nest
Probably not the cat appeared before Joy was alone
cinder hare
or the name i cant remember
neat nest
KAAL1
cinder hare
With the colony fallen and no one left Joy is super lonely and bereft of purpose
ok yeah so sounds like what i was thinking
grave pebble
rip got ganked by uesc right on my first outpost extract lol
neat nest
KAAL1 is a cat uplift (sorta like a runner) who took extremely well to robotic life and went feral/rampant/something
cinder hare
and has admin+++ on doors or some shit
neat nest
Blessed by the Door Controller
sharp plover
was just looking in the codex, has anyone found any of these? https://i.imgur.com/jK0YyBy.png
grave pebble
found a shell id on a random uesc guy lol
grave pebble
<@255907872993574923> surv 5
hope someone sets up an ishtar equivalent for marathon soon
cosmic flame
hope someone sets up an ishtar equivalent for marathon soon
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACTSSSSSSS
TRUTH NUCALORIC
grave pebble
i feel bad lol, i left my pub crew by grabbing an exfil that someone charged but apparently forgot to take?
they were like right there too so i fucked two squads
cosmic flame
😭
grave pebble
what the hell is the sekiguchi contract lol
just go to Tick Death Zone solo and jump off the roof a bunch ig
cinder hare
another sponsored run day
twin rain
survey emails went out on the weekend. Might've been based on Slam participation but I'm unsure. Went to my junk folder! Check yours if you want to submit some non-discord direct feedback.
grave pebble
are cryo archive keys a guaranteed drop from wardens btw?
cinder hare
no.
grave pebble
are they common-ish at least?
cinder hare
not super iirc
grave pebble
i should start farming them to level sekgen at the same time
i kinda need faction upgrades a lot more than gear rn
mostly because the only runs i actually survive are the ones i take sponkits into lol
cinder hare
ive been trying to figure out how to farm commander's
grave pebble
do they drop anything worthwhile? Ik they've got rarer loot but they're always backed up by 10 other dudes
cinder hare
unsent missives is worth 4k
grave pebble
it'd be a bit boring if every endgame location was on the marathon, but it would also be really stupid if the runners ended up going to lho'won or some shit, so idk
sharp plover
marathons a big ship but theres also a lot of planet too
cinder hare
i bet we'll get a new poi that's on the actual tciv
like 1-2 more
and we could get another 1-2 marathon stuffs
also imo the hardest part of marathon is grinding the amount of raw materials you need for the upgrades
sharp plover
marathons a big ship but theres also a lot of planet too
[i mean this literally, Deimos is about 16x12x10 km and the central box section of the ship visibly sticks out both ends]
cinder hare
i was thinking 5% or so
sharp plover
the ship has to be close to around 30km
cinder hare
because that's still several miles of stuff to explore
sharp plover
(though the fact Deimos looks completely different to reality doesnt help)
cinder hare
and enough for FIFTEEN THOUSAND PEOPLE MINIMUM
300,000 people, right?
given how Outpost is like, 1 square kilometer in size
yeah we could have 30 fucking maps in the ship
sharp plover
the only official number we have is the 24 thousand for the colony
its not clear if that includes anyone still onboard the Marathon at the time of the attack or in cryo
cinder hare
wait i got it off by a fucking 0
30,000 people
either way though, it's still an insane amount of people
sharp plover
[in both the originals and now]
ah here we go
The original crew of the Marathon consisted of 50 senior staff, 1150 officers and 24,000 civilians all of whom were citizens of the Mars colony or Earth. Some individuals were placed in stasis for the interstellar journey, but most civilians lived and worked on the ship and raised families there. As the crew aged, a new generation of humans were born and raised on the Marathon. By some, these children were looked down upon and called "Bob", short for born on board. These citizens grew to run the ship and many can be seen in the game running for their lives. It is your sworn duty as a security officer to protect Bob.
cinder hare
bob
sharp plover
god... what if the ship still has the bob copies......
everybody gangsta until the human-shaped bag of plastic explosives sprints at them at full speed down a dark corridor
cinder hare
scary asf
fun thing about marathon is farming the 100k you'll need to buy a fully gold/purple loadout isnt super difficult
sharp plover
FROG BLAST THE VENT CORE! - Potential last words heard by many a runner
cinder hare
since a good run nets you like, 5k~ or more easily
you could do 20 runs and get all you need
assuming 50% success rate and 15 minutes per exfil
10 hours.
my main issue with pvp is bad positioning = instant death
patent thicket
BOBs getting you killed by the UESC by standing dead center in a narrow hallway and just staring at you while screaming “THEY’RE EVERYWHERE!!!”
cosmic flame
THEY KILLED BOB
mossy bridge
***FROG BLAST THE VENT CORE!*** - Potential last words heard by many a runner
I’ve seen THANK GOD ITS YOU scribbled on the walls
mossy bridge
also I saw a scale model of the marathon in outpost’s orientation area and it very much looks like they fragmented Deimos
and added chunks on
obsidian latch
anyone around to do some runs?
sand sluice
Enjoy
sand sluice
Thought about the wardens a bit more
It's not that they have bad loot for what they are, it's that they don't scale for solos so for solos afaik they're more difficult for the same loot pool
mossy bridge
mida 2/5 done
grave pebble
man what is with south relay turning into a bloodbath within a minute
grave pebble
i'm just trying to do the traxus mission that needs you to hit a relay and hauler
mossy bridge
It's so funny that Assassin players genuinely think they deserve to live
If you play Assassin I should be allowed to steal something from your house
sand sluice
Yeah if someone picks assassin they have to be friendly first otherwise I'm never friendly
It has happened once and I even helped the guy with his quest lmao
grave pebble
dual thief is actually pretty good if you both know what you're doing
plenty of instances in this game where an eye in the sky is objectively more valuable than an extra gun
staggering your drone scouts with a sniper or assassin actually works
mossy bridge
"What the hell is in this thing?"
"Nothing."
"Come on..."
"An... alien..."
"A what?"
"A... Phfor..."
sand sluice
sand sluice
Curious if I should bother with ranked when it happens
I'm not that good and I'd want to at least aim for plat
Plus would be curious how ranked is even scored
neat nest
If the rumors are true you buy in with a holotag and you’re scored by exfil value
Looted holotags are worth a fair amount of ranked points
sand sluice
Hrm
neat nest
These are outdated and incomplete rumors
sand sluice
I mean I'm not against exfil value, makes sense
However I would say looted holotags being worth stuff would be a bit of a pain point
Cause that's def gonna be rng on if other people have them
But then again
grave pebble
It does incentivise looting for valuables over other stuff seems like
Would, rather
sand sluice
Well if you're looting for exfil value
Wardens>locked rooms>everything else
neat nest
Cause that's def gonna be rng on if other people have them
It’s ranked everyone has a holotag
neat nest
Basically the “ranked Q” will on one map at a time rotating and you get a holotag to enter it
sand sluice
Or rather gear
Cause enduring would totally blow exfil value like crazy
But tbf
Might also be based upon just meeting the score and earning a max amount of points or w/e
In which case enduring more just means a lucky win
Im spending too many brain thinks on it
We'll see it when it gets here
distant zinc
uh oh!
mossy bridge
the V75 scar goes hard so i see why nucal use it in their sponsored kits
and THAT
is ON. BURGER.
indigo oriole
i have not had a successful run on outpost yet, yet i love it so much
what a fun map design
mossy bridge
I've had two
It's great
I love the weather forcing everyone inside
I love how tight and cramped with so many hiding spots some parts are but there's also big wide open atriums
The design is great
the amount of UESC is great
the loot, of course, is great
indigo oriole
the weather is neat, and i get like, stealth horror vibes as im trying to sneak towards my mission objective while hearing distant gunshots or w/e
mossy bridge
Still haven't used yet alone wrapped my head around the security credentials
distant zinc
the weather is neat, and i get like, stealth horror vibes as im trying to sneak ...
doing protect destroy 4 solo felt like a metal gear mission it was great
mossy bridge
doing traxus quests rn cause i've barely done any
i gotta do protect/destroy 4
im out of priority nucal contracts
distant zinc
doing traxus quests rn cause i've barely done any
mossy bridge
cyac doesnt have anymore
distant zinc
i hate the traxus quests they’re really annoying
mossy bridge
i've still not done the ten finishers for arachne
indigo oriole
yeah im just trying to do that intro to sekiguchi mission! getting closer to getting it done
i can usually get the necro sample, ive just been dying enroute to the scan part
distant zinc
i’m trying to grind mida to 10 so i can get the new wave of priorities
so far they’ve had the most fun contracts
cinder hare
i like how you can optimize your outpost runs
sand sluice
Mida contracts are cool but I do not like dire marsh
ivory laurel
I dunno why, but I kinda want to see a Vandal/Glitch skin with a mohawk
cinder hare
too pvp heavy for my liking yep yep
neat nest
I’m a big dire marsh liker but I don’t like waiting for the Traxus drone to slowly fly over while you’re near algae ponds
mossy bridge
really cool team running around with purple shields on perimeter
sand sluice
Dire marsh being pvp heavy doesn't bother me
cinder hare
i need to fight wardens
sand sluice
I think it's more the fact that every single quest has been, "do this, now run across the map, now do it again"
cinder hare
issue is i dont feel like bringing 500 ammo
sand sluice
It's not worth in solo
cinder hare
and gambling on if warden will spawn
neat nest
I like solid snaking it in solos
sand sluice
Ammo cost and rng on the spawn = bad investment for returns on warden in solo
cinder hare
purple sharing would make trios farm a lot more worth it
neat nest
There is gold sharing at least
cinder hare
oh shit really fuck yeah
ive only seen one gold spawn ever in my games
and of course it was a key'd room
how tf you get keys
ive gotten like 3, ever
neat nest
I am not sure if there’s a specific way
I think coordinate datapad caches often have them?
Alternatively get the CyAc key printer
indigo oriole
trying a new strategy for outpost sekiguchi mission: loading in and waiting 10min before trying
cinder hare
lollllllll
indigo oriole
i can hear so much distant gunfire...
neat nest
trying a new strategy for outpost sekiguchi mission: loading in and waiting 10mi...
This is legit
People rush the poison site since it’s one of the most straightforward entrances to pinwheel
indigo oriole
</3 saw the scanner and someone knifed me
soon!
this does make me think that if i wanted to boost my arachne mission numbers id just camp flight control for people doing this mission lmao
neat nest
Looks like the dire marsh pilgrims succeeded
mossy bridge
mossy bridge
Looks like the dire marsh pilgrims succeeded
Outpost terminals unlocked?
neat nest
Probably soon
mossy bridge
They restocked the fucking worm on the bungie store but only in NA
I want one so bad
neat nest
Hwoa
sand sluice
Yup
twin rain
Has anyone even seen a Misriah yet? I haven't. Maybe I don't play enough Outpost
neat nest
Not since the tech test lol
indigo oriole
i love marathon so much. something so funny about 2 hours of attempts at the sekiguchi quest helping my buddy finish like 5 arachne kill-people contracts, and then only after he leaves and i try it solo for the first time today do i finally unlock sekiguchi because i let 6 other runners kill themselves while hiding in a vent and then popping out with a grenade
neat nest
Lmfao
indigo oriole
outpost feels so well designed
love the heat weather, love all the ways the map interconnects
mossy bridge
the wstr is so unfair
indigo oriole
even if you arent trying to get into the pinwheel theres so much to do and avoid and enjoy
oak glacier
its a shotgun
id be more upset if it didnt insta kill someone with 0 defense from point blank
cinder hare
its a shotgun
i think its more because its the only gun that can 2 tap like, purples and so on so fast
it's a bit excessive in the super tight pois within pinwheel
oak glacier
yeah maybe its too good against purples
idk dont have experience there
but atlas mentioned a grey shield
neat nest
Outpost is lowkey a ball of famer for PvP shooter maps I think
cinder hare
gray shields can go fuck themselves lmao
neat nest
I feel like you could write a dissertation on its design
cinder hare
i expect to die in those zones
cinder hare
yeah and that thing has literal autoaim
neat nest
Depends on knoife damage upgrades I think
cinder hare
or the 3 light combo
cinder hare
Depends on knoife damage upgrades I think
nah i only have knife upgrade 1
indigo oriole
i think ive gotten most of my pvp kills with the knife
cinder hare
and that thing fucking shreds
but yeah the combo for blues and so on is double heavy
neat nest
nah i only have knife upgrade 1
There’s also implants and different cores have different base knoife damage
neat nest
It is yeah light light heavy
Albeit I think light light light works since I sometimes do this with damage amped assassin
cinder hare
honestly i really like the "chunk" of sliding around but i think with how ridiculously smooth everything else it stands out too much
cosmic flame
hell the fuck no do not buff sliding
cinder hare
no im saying nerf movement lmao
im not completely serious
but it just stands out too much is all
would make for a really nice blue/purple tier universal core though
cosmic flame
you can't sprint for longer than 5 consecutive seconds we have very different views
cosmic flame
a finite amount is an infinity% downgrade from an infinite amount
cinder hare
lol
neat nest
So it begins
At the rate we’re going the Marathon will be unlocked about a week after launch
cinder hare
yeah the arg players are insane
distant zinc
can’t wait to try to fight the compiler with my glorious arachne free kit
wintry shuttle
It honestly is sorta cool Marathon is still a top seller
neat nest
Yeah
The weird artificial culture war hate magnet sucked
But the game is reviewing really really well and appears to be selling quite well too
oak glacier
i do think the server slam helped them a ton
free weekend just before launch
to get people on board
wintry shuttle
i do think the server slam helped them a ton
That, and the people who would've been turned or hate Marathon would get a taste.
sand sluice
i really wanna get in
Play thief and steal the key off warden kills
Tbh tho you prob won't need a key
oak glacier
That, and the people who would've been turned or hate Marathon would get a taste...
and honestly
i think the price being 40$ instead of 60$ helped them a ton too
wintry shuttle
Yeah
cinder hare
Tbh tho you prob won't need a key
wait wdym
$40 is a solid asf price ngl
esp for a live service
wintry shuttle
Yeah
Like, the game has a lower player count then Arc.
But then you compare it to Tarkov's numbers on steam.
It's sorta beating out the granddaddy of the genre
cinder hare
tarkov is majority not steam fyi
wintry shuttle
Oh yeah
cinder hare
marathon is small
wintry shuttle
but Steam gets treated as somehow being the real place where games matter.
cinder hare
but it's actually big
numbers dont matter beyond a certain point
60-70k is pretty fuckin big
neat nest
Yeah it’s not one of the rare hyper huge games
But it’s bouncing around the same ballpark as Deadlock and Overwatch and R6S and so on
wintry shuttle
60-70k is pretty fuckin big
Oh yeah, like if the player count stays consistently like that for a month.
Then the game is gonna be okay
and if Cryo drops either this week or next week.
Then the population is going to spikez
sand sluice
wait wdym
If you need keys to specifically access the new map very few people will have access.
Only way I can see this being ok is if it's entirely pve or they do things like letting people in via door being open
I'm more assuming cryo is just a locked room in marathon
But I'm assuming a lot
neat nest
I suspect that you’ll be able to go there without keys but not advance
sand sluice
Yeah that would make sense too
neat nest
So there’s a sort of ante-cryo you can raid but the Descent needs the keys
oak glacier
which means you can go in and kill people with keys :3
neat nest
which means you can go in and kill people with keys :3
And that’s exactly why I don’t think you’ll need keys to go there at all lol
cinder hare
ahhhh i see i see
sand sluice
I mean maybe they'll do it anyways
But if so I'm just gonna w key people and rip the key off them
Not gonna be hard when you get free shotguns off rook
neat nest
I’m curious how the shell play rates compare
I feel like I see thief recon assassin and triage the most
(No particular order)
With vandal and destroyer rarer
wintry shuttle
My runs have seen Vandal, Assassin, and Destroyer usage.
Little bit of some Recon or Triage players
mossy bridge
three runners in nucal/white rabbit skins
perfectly camo'd against a fucking truck on the road outside dire marsh
im so mad
at least i got to 3/10 (from 2/10) on my arachne murderfuck contact
on a free kit too
sand sluice
Lmao are the skins actually p2w?
mossy bridge
no
it's just the white trucks on dire marsh
also you dont pay for the nucal skins you just
exfil with a nucal sponsored kit
white rabbit's the only paid one this would work for
sand sluice
Ahhh, I thought it was the white rabbit one specifically, misread
That's funny as heck tho cause I know Hunt Showdown has p2w skins
Are you specifically doing arachne pvp contracts tho?
If so I would ask why you're on diremarsh without a thermal cause dire marsh is the place where all the crazy pvpers are
wintry shuttle
I fucking hate doing quests on Diremarsh
mossy bridge
im just trying to fucking murder people for arachne
sand sluice
Gotcha yeah, don't do dire marsh without a thermal, do perimeter or outpost
mossy bridge
the tilt is getting to me so im not playing anymore
but i think outpost is the best place for fragging
sand sluice
Easier because perimeter has more newer people and outpost people slow down more due to the fire rain
mossy bridge
i barely meet anyone on perimeter
sand sluice
Are you spawn rushing them?
mossy bridge
anyone in comparison to outpost or marsh anywho
sand sluice
If you aren't that's prob why
mossy bridge
um
no
usually i go where the randoms take me
because they have actual quests
instead of skin 10 people alive
sand sluice
That would be part of the issue then yeh
If you go perimeter solos and rush to overflow or north relay from oppossite side of the map you're very likely to run into someone who is fighting uesc somewhere or you run into them into the side paths
Alternatively if you spawn north of overflow you can w key rush dcon spawn and catch someone if they aren't paying attention or run into overflow
More Alternatively, run to maintenance in dire marsh and camp sekiguchi 4/5 room
If you camp it and they walk in and start interacting with the terminal they're animation locked and it doesnt lock the room down until the animation is done
sand sluice
Yus
vivid flower
I need to make a vandal melee build at some point it's so fun to just run at people
cinder hare
Some arg shit going down
yeah you need your DAC for it too
sand sluice
Fuck
I don't have the time to look ar ARG
I'm doing 10 hour shifts ontop of other extra curricular stuff
placid oxide
Bungie still has the finest “Menacing AI vague-posting” writers in all the land
neat nest
I can’t believe they had Durandal saying “you have more Marathons to run” and I still thought it had aura
placid oxide
Subtext is for cowards
neat nest
Durandal would fucking say that though
placid oxide
Doesn’t Migs work for Bungie now?
neat nest
yeah you need your DAC for it too
I’ll upload my DAC when I get home
I have a strong one if that matters
cinder hare
I did not expect them to add skins for everyone
placid oxide
Shotgun looks clean
wintry shuttle
You know what would I want
placid oxide
Got to use a w4str for the first time and felt powerful
neat nest
I’m actually really digging Arachne triage
cinder hare
Same
cosmic flame
arachne triage is faintly uncomfortable to look at
arachne destroyer though
if i speak i am in big trouble.
wintry shuttle
we're all thinking it
final onyx
arachne triage is faintly uncomfortable to look at
thats the idea innit
indigo oriole
Need that triage skin
cosmic flame
not really everyone else is actually just kind of normal
he looks like hes doing whiteface
indigo oriole
The woker Triage
cosmic flame
fuck
twin rain
we haven't seen any of the other arachne skins, have we?
grave pebble
is everyone just using the WSTR cause it's accessible or does it actually outclass the Misriah that much?
I'm a pump action fan over an SSG fan but i don't think i've ever run into one
twin rain
I was asking the same earlier and it appears noone has seen a misriah yet
grave pebble
hmmm. would be nice if there was a more reliable way to farm schemas
(i assume schemas don't reset per season either, that would suck)
i nabbed a blue volley rifle off someone and i gotta have a reproducible version of that guy
twin rain
unsure, but schemas have limited purchases
knowing bungie I wouldn't be surprised if they were wiped too
grave pebble
ahhh, that's why i can't gt the magnum anymore
twin rain
as they're part of "your vault" and would be an unfair advantage if you had the whole armory available from the get-go (with credits)
grave pebble
well i don't approve of that tbh. if i want to spend creds on a white magnum every match, what exactly is the harm? It's not contributing to lootflation unless i also have all the weapon mod armory unlocks, and that's going to be late in the season
cosmic flame
is everyone just using the WSTR cause it's accessible or does it actually outcla...
the take I've heard from the omegasweat 9000 hours guy I played with is that the misriah two taps further and faster, but nobody has one and you can't buy them outright from arachne
split apex
Where do you even find some of these guns lol
placid oxide
Pinwheel I assume
split apex
It feels like the upper tiers are excruciatingly rare
grave pebble
Where do you even find some of these guns lol
arms lockers, lockboxes i assume, pinwheel
cosmic flame
it makes me grumpy that I can't get those guns but at the same time I recognise that this is probably a reason to go out and skin people
grave pebble
sometimes uesc drop blue gear too
cosmic flame
i lost my lookout yesterday and i am very steamed about it
grave pebble
and they drop greens with reasonable frequency
split apex
You can at least unlock the option to buy the lookout via traxus
grave pebble
i love my volley rifle too much to actually take it along until i get another
split apex
I'm trying to go for that myself rn
cosmic flame
that's true
but it's also traxus
i unsusprisingly have giga arachne rep and nucal and almost nothing from everything else
grave pebble
traxus and sekgen are my lowest ranked ones, my highest are nucal and mida
i should join some warden farming parties for sekgen, purchasable cores would be great
split apex
Traxus is at least worth doing their pre-rank 10 contracts for since their priority access is cracked
50% chance of a free m277 each day
wintry shuttle
My highest faction is CyberAcme
cosmic flame
traxus prio contracts are giga cheeks which is probably why i have so much nucal
grave pebble
i think cyac is the highest by default for most people tbh
cause they're just the 'play the game' faction
i'm polishing off my story quests so i'm stuck in Hauler Hell for the rest of the day probs
cinder hare
is everyone just using the WSTR cause it's accessible or does it actually outcla...
Its because its available early on for not too much cost
sand sluice
I've seen a couple of the mistrahs
it honestly isn't like
that good
well
to me anyways
wintry shuttle
i'm polishing off my story quests so i'm stuck in Hauler Hell for the rest of th...
Same am in Hauler hell mines
sand sluice
cause WSTR is just so much more accessible
so it's either spent money on the mistrah or get free wstrs
neat nest
Where do you even find some of these guns lol
If you VIP Traxus they sell a random gold mod gun a day
That’s where a lot of the screenshots are from
grave pebble
yeah factions seem like a more reliable drip feed of loot than going hard out in pvp tbh
but you gotta get prestige salvage for them anyway so you're headed to the pinwheel either way
grave pebble
i got that done last night with a useful pub
sand sluice
do a celebratory run
grave pebble
two destroyers, one with a sniper, me running thief and mostly ratting with the scout drone
um, the traxus quest 1/5 requires you to go inside a tox room, does it?
i found an anti-poison key, i guess i better bring it along for that
indigo oriole
Thank you traxus very cool
Really hoping the coming weeks will see "social media" chill on marathon stuff, kinda lame to get occasionally flashbanged by the weirdest marathon hate just being online
wintry shuttle
It's mostly coming from hardcore D2 players that feel Bungie has left Destiny 2.
neat nest
Yeah it's a mix of jilted Destiny 2 players and like weird right wing culture warriors
indigo oriole
That might be part of it, but theres also the bluecheck culture war chuds, arc raiders, people mad its not like marathon 1-3, and then random click articles like ign stuff
mossy bridge
I was asking the same earlier and it appears noone has seen a misriah yet
speaking of
neat nest
I was asking the same earlier and it appears noone has seen a misriah yet
I got one in the MCTT so this may be out of date
mossy bridge
It’s a little weird that some guns are just not sold
neat nest
It was slower firing than the WSTR (which was also stronger then) but had much better range and I think moderately higher damage
neat nest
It’s a little weird that some guns are just not sold
Lowkey I think they might jiggle them around each season
sand sluice
It was slower firing than the WSTR (which was also stronger then) but had much b...
oh right the slugs
neat nest
Not slugs just a tight spread and less falloff
twin rain
MCTT? not ringing any bells, brain might be fried
twin rain
oh yeeeah
neat nest
They futzed with like half the weapons since then so idk if I have reliable info
twin rain
but I meant in the live game anyways
indigo oriole
The Cyan of Approximate Knowledge
neat nest
I think it was for the mistrah specifically
Oh it's a wstr mod
sand sluice
oh rip
warm sage
took a small break so I am officially behind but I will be back tomorrow to catch up
any ARG updates?
neat nest
The terminals are done and we're not sure what to do next
sand sluice
help one dude by giving him a drone in outpost run
usec I needs to kill fucks off to nowhere, can't find em
2nd run an assassin camping in a bathroom tries to kill me
misses a good 3 quarters of their shots
I break their shields and toss a grenade it, they die
they donated a volley rifle, blue backpack, and blue shields to me
so ya know
patent thicket
bsscuse me
twin rain
Any runners out tonight?
grave pebble
i'll be on in about an hour
cinder hare
<@&1474420814979010821> marton hours?'
twin rain
yeag
sand sluice
So buy lockbox keys
cinder hare
:p
neat nest
Rook is a friend
Rook is rich
great run to end a late night
(I buddied up with another rook and went to final exfil with 2 other rooks and a random surviving Thief runner)
echo scroll
wait cryo is open?
split apex
The launch buffs to Rook are fantastic
wintry shuttle
I have a greenhouse key
How many times do I have to raid guarded extraction to get other keys?
neat nest
The launch buffs to Rook are fantastic
Yeah it's nice having the gear to push through basic UESC now
wintry shuttle
Because I want to get a lot of perimeter keys.
neat nest
Even if we skipped a room with like 10 UESC and multiple big shield guys
It's also cool to run into more friendlies than in the tests
Where people were mostly testing out all the systems and thus very aggressive
neat nest
Rook is rich
I thought the other Rook was gonna fuck me over for like the last 3 minutes we spent chilling in a garage waiting for the firestorm to clear and final extract
split apex
yeah I've noticed increased Rook solidarity
I had a lovely time with a Rook on Outpost last night, a fella letting his little brother play
We shared a bunch of loot and got out in final exfil
Came out with a Stryder, that thing is no joke
neat nest
The small mag size feels weird but it’s basically what I want the Hardline to be so it’s great
wintry shuttle
Noice
neat nest
Mine was not so extended but was 14
wintry shuttle
Also, I forgot that Traxus contracts tell us that we have no human rights as Runners.
split apex
Mine was not so extended but was 14
pretty good!
grave pebble
It's also cool to run into more friendlies than in the tests
do you run into friendly rooks reasonably often? I feel like every time i've tried rook-ing i've gotten ganked, but I need to get better at spawning with a plan
without a contract explicitly holding my hand i do tend to headless chicken my way through pois
neat nest
So this is uhhh
My first Rook run since the release
I’ve been grinding contracts mostly lol
grave pebble
yeah i've only tried 2 so far. it really seems not worth it until you get some faction upgrades
otherwise just sponkit it imo
split apex
I tend to find fellow rooks more receptive to teaming up - using prox chat also raises your chance of success a lot
neat nest
Yeah rooks all know we don’t have shit to steal
anyway my usual goal with Rook is to go somewhere I know good loot spawns like guaranteed arms lockers
Or hunt for bags
split apex
tends to be the same place 
slate field
Some Rooks know we don't have shit to steal
I had a few Rooks last night that were literally just camping other Rooks
cosmic flame
Came out with a Stryder, that thing is no joke
DA MULTI TOOL
split apex
DA MULTI TOOL
the what now
grave pebble
wintry shuttle
Mida Multi Tool
split apex
i see
cosmic flame
the icon
wintry shuttle
I know they probably aren't gonna do it
cosmic flame
the klak klak klak klal
wintry shuttle
but it would be funny if we get Destiny bits here and there thrown in.
grave pebble
the resemblance is obvious
wintry shuttle
Like it would be funny if the next scout rifle is Skyburner's oath but mini.
grave pebble
bungie is probably the most self-referential developer in existence, i feel?
twin rain
the exotic stryder skin that makes it look like the multi tool
grave pebble
like they love calling back to halo and marathon in destiny, idk why that wouldn't carry through
wintry shuttle
Yeah
the MC Magnum is the Halo Magnum
Obviously stands for Master Chief Magnum.
wintry shuttle
Obviously stands for Master Chief Magnum.
And the BRRT is the UNSC BR.
twin rain
bootleg vigilance wing
slate field
Volley's the 3-burst AR
grave pebble
the BR33 is just the battle rifle / BxR
wintry shuttle
Considering they have the Destroyer skin that are basically murder hobos.
They can bring in the Red Death.
cosmic flame
the destroyer really does just look like jimmy security officer
like it fucked me up so bad when it clicked that his weird chunky visor is actually shaped to be the bubble helmet on the craig mullins illustrations
wintry shuttle
That's funny
grave pebble
yeah Destroyer is just Security with more Colours and Shapes
neat nest
Obviously stands for Master Chief Magnum.
It’s supposedly “mega class” based on the magazine
wintry shuttle
Mega Class
twin rain
I do like how the X-large extendo mag for the pistol is just called the BFM
wintry shuttle
Mega Class
But we all know who the real MC is.
neat nest
And yeah Destroyer is using the same mjolnir armor as Security 54
(Yeah yeah better known by other users)
neat nest
But we all know who the real MC is.
Yeah haha
