it helps so much yeah
#Marathon
neat nest
sand sluice
esp cause objectives don't get marked on the map
vagrant carbon
I was so proud of that one snipe I got lol
cinder hare
@final onyx join us 
tawdry sequoia
damn, I keep missing my timing by a little 
sand sluice
I'm just running solos while waiting on food to bake
tawdry sequoia
I've been having an okay time in pubs
opal elm
People are mostly decent in pubs
I do get a lot of people thinking they can solo (they cannot solo)
vagrant carbon
I'm not brave enough to do solos
tawdry sequoia
they're not bad, as long as you know not to pick a fight with a trio
cinder hare
neat nest
I do get a lot of people thinking they can solo (they cannot solo)
This is not a game about being a hero
final onyx
https://bskye.app/profile/treegirl.it.com/post/3mgf7nfnv6c2e
i get the wordplay but i wonder if that would be sekgen's specialty
opal elm
This is not a game about being a hero
Rook wins all fights Cyan you just gotta believe hard enough trust :p
cinder hare
I MADE A FINAL EXFIL WITH 0 SECONDS LEFT
oak glacier
i get the wordplay but i wonder if that would be sekgen's specialty
sekgen would be more for the robotgirls and anyone looking for a whole new body (aka trillionaires or anyone ok with going into perpetual debt slavery)
opal elm
Siiick
oak glacier
nucaloric estrogen would be a more accessible solution
cinder hare
suprisingly good
sand sluice
I'm the opposite
also they buffed the tankiness of the purple shield enemies
makes me sad
outpost is gr8
way better than dire marsh
I think the passive damage is goofy tho
cosmic flame
better than the volt thrower imo
"hydrogen bomb better than poop" ass comparison, the volt thrower is so cheeks
meanwhile the v11 will just randomly turn into a cs deagle
sand sluice
it's better than the hardline PR given how many times I've dumpsterred green shield hardline users with it while using the free sponsered kit lmao
but on the flipside Idk what they expect taking any engagement with it that isn't long ranged
vagrant carbon
There are better volt weapons out there, yeah?
sand sluice
ye
cosmic flame
lookout
lookout is just unironically good
good pvp gun, zero recoil, effective out to 100m
wintry shuttle
sand sluice
for me it's like
v11 punch < volt thrower < other volt guns < circuit breaker
only time I want the v11 punch is fighting usec
volt thrower I can fight other players with but I already figured out how to cheese headshots with it
I suspect if I can get melee to 1-tap kill on no shields I'd start liking the v11 punch more tho
since it would just be the plasma pistol punch combo from halo
split apex
volt thrower I can fight other players with but I already figured out how to che...
don't bother with headshots on the volt thrower, actually, it has a precision mod of 1
so no extra damage
sand sluice
that's good to know
I'll just keep aiming for head tho so I can hit people behind cover
cosmic flame
actually having to aim for head on the volt thrower of all things would actually cause me to go berserk
split apex
Oh yeah that's a good tip I should communicate - you can check a weapon's full stats by inspecting it
It'll give a full breakdown
The firepower stat each weapon has is actually their headshot damage, lol
opal elm
Having now acquired to WSTRs, I think the next time I'll play I'll have to recruit some bodyguards so I can exfil with both for the achievement.
obsidian latch
On one hand Arachne is cool as fuck, on the other I suck at PvP
indigo oriole
the way ive viewed arachne contracts is they'll happen when they happen, outside of trying to do something like camping an extrac and hoping to be opportunistic
which is fun for me at least
sand sluice
Yeh but you can't do them and other contracts at the same time
that's been a pain point for a number of players
cinder hare
Something I’m slightly annoyed by is how blue item distribution feels so unbalanced
cinder hare
Like blue weapon mods and such are super common feeling
But then backpack feel as rare as purples
neat nest
That hasn't been my experience - oh I see
Yeah I think they've made weapon mods easier to find
But just weapon mods
Backpacks they're being stingy with I think because they're very powerful and precious
sand sluice
I agree
if you look at how many weapon mods exist
then it makes sense you'd be earning so many more compared to like, each blue shield and backpack
cinder hare
it just doesnt feel right when i like color matching
also green backpacks feel awfully rare for some reason
sand sluice
wdym color matching
neat nest
I haven't gotten a lot as loot but the game is throwing them at me
sand sluice
oh
cinder hare
yeah as loot they feel... kinda rare
sand sluice
I would only consider weapons in one tier if at least 3 mods on them are that tier
as for backpacks being loot, I get them often enough but also as long as I'm not just trying to rush objectives I kill like 15-20 uesc
neat nest
I would only consider weapons in one tier if at least 3 mods on them are that ti...
I think it very much depends on the mod
If there's only 1 blue and it's a thermal the weapon is blue
sand sluice
the main thing is the game is def about picking your fights so unless you know you're gonna get good loot it's better not to fight
sand sluice
I think it very much depends on the mod
yeah the game has it's own logic for doing it but I try not to look at that because mods are so subjectively useful to me
like to me blue mag > thermal sights
also cause like
neat nest
Blue mags are really good
sand sluice
let's be real, game's logic for determining item rarity/usefulness is hit or miss
neat nest
Esp with the nerfs thermal smgs are just good not great
sand sluice
with the prime example being the green normal shields vs reinforced
sand sluice
Esp with the nerfs thermal smgs are just good not great
yeh exactly
neat nest
I’ve got a blue LMG I love except for it’s unavoidable habit of using 4 figures of credits up every real fight
sand sluice
only once in my bwuuuuh ~19 hours of playing did I ever wish I had thermal sights, and in every other moment I always find the little ping grenades so if I was on my normal run I would have just had one of those
also tbf that moment I basically just self-destructed by staying on the uesc ship as it flew away cause I was being petty that this dude would not leave me alone
cosmic flame
I’ve got a blue LMG I love except for it’s unavoidable habit of using 4 figures ...
meet the heavy destroyer
sand sluice
I’ve got a blue LMG I love except for it’s unavoidable habit of using 4 figures ...
that's always been my thing with taking my own kits
ammo is so sparse that I usually spend like 1.2k credits on ammo alone
neat nest
I only have 6 hours in the release so far but I’m liking it even more
neat nest
meet the ~~heavy~~ destroyer
I killed a runner last run and left all his gear along except for his light ammo stacks
sand sluice
I don't leave gear but that's because I don't want someone picking it up and using it against me
neat nest
I filled my pack already
neat nest
This was after picking over two POIs and getting jumped before extract
I just used 1.5 mags (160 bullets) killing runners and a UESC commander
Oho a new wallet cannon challenger approaches
indigo oriole
funny Rook run where i spawned in, hear a massive amount of gunfire/explosions, peek my way over and as i move through cover around hauler i just keep stumbling across bodies. seven total by the time i was done
warm sage
I'm ngl Thief needs buffs lol
Prickpocket Drone is neat but very underwhelming when compared to other Prime abilities
like, its less of a pickpocket drone and more of a "scrounge up garbage off the floor and maybe snag a valuable off some schmuck every 30 runs" drone
indigo oriole
the grapple hook is the real sauce
warm sage
just let it go through containers and the issue is fixed
pipe dream is letting it do objectives and interact with things
neat nest
I'm ngl Thief needs buffs lol
I don’t agree I love thief
warm sage
where do you find unstable gunmetal?
indigo oriole
like even with Triage, i think the drones are the real sauce, the revive is just a nice backup
warm sage
I don’t agree I love thief
oh I do to I just wish the drone felt better
neat nest
I did some straight up AWACs shit tonight
cosmic flame
yeah if you want the UAV that tazes people's loot out of their pockets to be stronger I got nothin
neat nest
Parked my ass somewhere unobtrusive and kept live pings on a whole team so my buddies could run em down
indigo oriole
the real Thief hack: put a claymore on your thief drone /s
neat nest
It’s IMO even better but harder to use then Recon Pulse for intel
cosmic flame
the number of times it's been blackbird ult that comes stapled to a flashbang cause people turn for the drone and then get killed on the other angle
it's disgusting
neat nest
That said the drone is basically in drunk driving mode if you don’t have a full pack so it takes some practice
cosmic flame
TTK isn't literally CS fast but with the wstr it kinda is
neat nest
I’ve also been able to use the drone to recon out new places and spot teams before a fight even happens
I’m pretty sure I’m gonna main thief haha
cosmic flame
it's also just way harder to spot at weird angles
neat nest
I just have no fuckin thief cores lol
cosmic flame
I don't think it's that loud
cinder hare
i need arachne 7 for the WSTR
cosmic flame
and by the time you do notice the damage is kinda done
neat nest
It’s loud as fuck for the operator but quiet otherwise I think
cinder hare
also
another test for the ares
it feels so... bad to use somehow
maybe i just dont get it
cosmic flame
it's a very low ergo weapon
neat nest
I think they may have nerfed the damage too much
cinder hare
or make it charge faster or something
neat nest
It used to be like “well it feels hella awkward but it 1 taps” except now I’m not sure if it can 1 taps
split apex
I don't think it's that loud
It's both quiet and it has a really thin profile
neat nest
or make it charge faster or something
There are mods for that at least
cosmic flame
I think it's so bad in pve that fact is reasonable to make it not worth running, but as a disgusting subhuman bow 1trick in destiny I am very used to how you play the ares
split apex
good luck seeing that shit unless you're on high ground
warm sage
Thief has been my go-to in solos but I bet she mostly excels in teams
I just WISH I HAD SOME PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH UGHHHH
cosmic flame
ultimately it's a 1.2x zoom sniper rifle that kills anyone on headshot
cinder hare
haiiii i can play
cosmic flame
you just have to know where people are which is much harder without the free wallhack that is Destiny radar
cosmic flame
but as we've gone over before, very, very possible to get that info through other mean
neat nest
I just WISH I HAD SOME PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH UGHHHH
I can party up
warm sage
Archenn#9630
cosmic flame
on principle I think it should never be good though
cinder hare
sniper thief will make me god (free vert holy shit)
neat nest
Sec I need to boot up
warm sage
I don't think I'm very good but I can speak so I'm already better than 95% of pubs players
cosmic flame
or at least not popular enough to be a problem
indigo oriole
ive mostly been pubbing groups as Triage and just keeping two dinguses alive has been enough to carry me to ok loot
cinder hare
indigo oriole
mostly just been working on upgrading my vault space and all that
cosmic flame
ive mostly been pubbing groups as Triage and just keeping two dinguses alive has...
triage item duping mch kit on outpost is gnarly
his amped weapons trait also seems insane
play backline and get zero consequence kill clip
very cool bungie thank you
indigo oriole
the amped weapons comes up and its nice but mostly i like being able to throw two healbots on idiot1 and idiot2 and wash my hands
cosmic flame
it stops #1 cause of burger deaths which is the slow bleedout of resources to uesc
indigo oriole
yeah, getting hit by those pot shots adds up fast
when i dont play triage im always like "damn am i out of healing already" cuz even solo just putting a bot on myself makes all the random grunts a little easier to knife to death
cosmic flame
people seem to assume that killing uesc will give you enough resources to continue killing uesc
cosmic flame
and not "almost nothing"
so you get stuck in these stupid fucking tarpit loops where your chungus teammate will just stay in a poi forever assuming that killing uesc will magically give them actually good gear
i appreciate that the generally correct way to play marathon is to just keep it moving instead of gooning in hauler for six hours
indigo oriole
honestly now that im mostly just hunting down the "level up" material for faction upgrades i kind of just hit the perimeter buildings early to scoop up meager shit first, since extracting with 2 diodes is better than 0
cosmic flame
I mean reasonable, cyac heat cap upgrade in particular is just bananas
sand sluice
wrong
it is if you know which usec to kill and where :)
unfortunately randos will never know
cause they're randos
cinder hare
sand sluice
how many backpacks are you buying
sharp plover
beesechurger
cinder hare
how many backpacks are you buying
0
sand sluice
are you spending your credits on something
sand sluice
white gear and the volt thrower to this
unfortunately no blue backpack after killing like 6 purple enemies
outpost gr8
and I also had to leave another green backpack behind
@neat nest
If you go to the destroyed wing in outpost, climb up, break the 4 power boxes, and break in there, enemies keep respawning and insofar as I can tell goodies spawn up there, in my case it was a secured loot box
and a rat thief tried to sneak in and steal it and I was like "not today you gremlin"
*rat thief assassin shell
sand sluice
nice 2 blue
killed wraith warden again
nothing of note, just blue backpack and his gun :(
warm sage
genuinely very good set of runs ngl
neat nest
Yeah outpost is rough
cinder hare
i think my perim is closer to 75-80% in teams
warm sage
i *expect* 25% exfil rate on outpost these days
15% take it or leave it lol
cinder hare
60% or so on perim solo
warm sage
where do you check your exfil rate?
neat nest
There's many angles for runners to get you from and a ton of verticality and the UESC switch from a challenge to an oppressive occupier
cinder hare
im guessing cuz idk
cinder hare
UESC is actually wildly good
like one uesc is ok
2 is easy
3? 4? bit difficult
6 CAN and WILL shred if they're blue or higher
neat nest
My... second run in Outpost 2 underprepared teams got trapped in barely linked side rooms and ripped up by the fuzz
I legit got pinned down by a blue sniper UESC holding angles
cinder hare
UESC holding angles is wild
cosmic flame
My... second run in Outpost 2 underprepared teams got trapped in barely linked s...
brain autocompleted this as the interplanetary treaty huzz... and I mcfucking lost it
neat nest
Orion really is something else
cinder hare
Also watching Aztecross (on mute) rn
Idk who this guy is but man
They play DIFFERENT
There is 0 stealth to their play because they just rip and tear
cosmic flame
destiny streamer
cinder hare
Checks out
neat nest
I've mostly been watching Tacotimmer and Bearki
cinder hare
Also seem like BRR (the 3 burst) and WSTR are really good
cosmic flame
as far as destiny pvp ccs jumping ship to marathon go
sand sluice
he said the thing!
neat nest
lmao
cosmic flame
there's also drewsky and wallah
cinder hare
Oh yeah I can’t remember but don’t you have a code or something Cyan or Tresh
cosmic flame
what
cinder hare
Cyan then
neat nest
Durandal really would say "what are we, a Marathon (2026)?
neat nest
Oh yeah I can’t remember but don’t you have a code or something Cyan or Tresh
I'm not sure what you mean
cinder hare
Screenshot of the terminal audio log w/ the code
cosmic flame
i've just been busy skinning i havent had any interaction with the arg at all
sand sluice
also it said 4% right before that
neat nest
Oh I'll see if I can dig it out
cinder hare
I want to get to the level of where I can play marathon like it’s COD instead of an extracto
Because I’m just That Goated
neat nest
Check out tacotimmer, but ultimately you can't because cod gives you 600 reserve ammo and drops from all enemies haha
cinder hare
Marathon as it is hits the perfect spot of high tension high reward medium risk
Which feels really fucking good
sand sluice
I should really be recording
cinder hare
The current Econ feels excellent
If I wanted to I could do a run where I seek out fights and go for the murderization skinning of a hundred runners for the thermodynamics of efflorescent bloodlight
warm sage
WHERE IS THIS SCANNING STATION
tawdry sequoia
damn, I have 5 hours and I am nowhere near y'all
neat nest
I'm only about 6-7 hours in
tawdry sequoia
maybe I'm too careful? (or bad? 
)
neat nest
Albeit I have more hours from the MCTT and slam
tawdry sequoia
or not careful enough
cosmic flame
i was a subhuman crucible enjoyer and also had nda hours on top of that
neat nest
When I was playing the MCTT the first... 45 minutes of my play was just learning the Bad Spots on the map which get you killed
cosmic flame
it's pretty comfortable coming from destiny, you just have to play pretty mindfully
neat nest
Like the not safe here roof
sand sluice
WHERE IS THIS SCANNING STATION
which one?
cosmic flame
especially when it comes to spamming misc movement abilities
neat nest
which one?
Seki faction intro one I think
slate field
I just finished the SekGen intro contract with a squad. Exfil'd on our first run on Outpost and made it out like bandits
cosmic flame
heck yeck
slate field
There were so many players with WSTRs, good lord
sand sluice
oh on outpost?
slate field
Ye
cosmic flame
it's my least favourite part about the map
sand sluice
that was easy, the scanning station spot is a bit dumb
cosmic flame
you pretty much just have to be prepared for instantaneous butt-slamming around every single corner
sand sluice
basically you gotta go into like the things that look like voting booths
and stand really close
neat nest
It's here
neat nest
Yeah I don't think that's live yet haha
warm sage
dude these Heat Cascades good lord
slate field
Yeah, they said that's gonna be in an upcoming update
slate field
dude these Heat Cascades good lord
Those are brutal, yeah
cosmic flame
a stack of MCH is permanently glued to my inventory if i decide to go to outpost
shit sucks
sand sluice
it also just does passive damage
Idk why they thought that was a good idea
I still like the map better than dark souls swamp
neat nest
There's a bunch of routes you can learn which mostly avoid it
slate field
Idk why they thought that was a good idea
To pressure people to seek shelter
sand sluice
no I mean
even if you're inside
you take passive damage
the heat cascades is a separate thing
neat nest
I don't think you do?
cosmic flame
you definitely do not lol
sand sluice
it was for me
neat nest
Did you have the necrotic sample at the time?
sand sluice
that or it glitched which if so, didn't suprise me
the sample for the sekiguchi quest?
neat nest
Cause the sample hurts you until you reach the scanner
neat nest
It's such a funny faction intro
"here drink poison and then scan it so we know what happened to you"
slate field
Yeah, our Destroyer went down to that sample more than from enemy players lol
warm sage
how do I exful outta here?
sand sluice
also poor blud lost his sniper rifle due to tac scans lmao
cosmic flame
all the exfils are locked behind keycards
warm sage
what kind
sand sluice
how do I exful outta here?
guarded exfil or you need auth from keycards
neat nest
There are guarded exfils still iirc
cosmic flame
the yellow objective ones
warm sage
Access Clearance?
neat nest
But yeah no free exits
warm sage
I have 3
cosmic flame
yeh
sand sluice
there's the small ones and the master one
the master one is the one that worked for me
small ones Idk what they do
warm sage
ITS NOT WORKING OH GOD
sand sluice
yeah need master one
cosmic flame
you need to match the colors to the colors required for exfil
sand sluice
or I did
neat nest
ngl I just did guarded exfils
sand sluice
oh match the colors makes sense
cosmic flame
i had to final exfil the first time haha
sand sluice
it's just a regular exfil that takes 30 seconds instead of 10 once it activates
slate field
If you do open up the elevator to the restricted exfil expect waves of heavy bots
sand sluice
I think as long as you make it in the last second it exfils you
warm sage
when does it start?
sand sluice
If you do open up the elevator to the restricted exfil expect waves of heavy bot...
wdym? the restricted exfil up top is outside the locked area
warm sage
worst timed heat cascade ever
cosmic flame
yeah there's a timer on your map that'll tell you X:XX til final exfil
once that happens all the other exfil points close i believe
slate field
wdym? the restricted exfil up top is outside the locked area
We had to fend off a wave of bots when we unlocked the elevator up
neat nest
once that happens all the other exfil points close i believe
Unless they're already active yeah
slate field
Including a purple shield
cosmic flame
there's an initial warmup period like other exfils
cosmic flame
then it takes 30 seconds to fire instead of 10 and will fire autonomously rather than when someone steps in
neat nest
There's like 4 ways to get into pinwheel
cosmic flame
as soon as the circle's on the floor, that's when the 30s timer starts
sand sluice
oh that's what the area is called?
warm sage
welp
slate field
elevator? <:CowThink:1032528679085027338>
There are multiple paths to it
warm sage
Idk what drugs the UESC were on there but they locked onto me INSTANTLY
neat nest
- broken wing
- elevator
- flight control door
- another door (orientation?)
cosmic flame
elevator was how i did it
neat nest
oh *that's* what the area is called?
Yeah the big ship which dominates the skyline is the Pinwheel Ship
sand sluice
that's good to know
sand sluice
broken wing is nice
cosmic flame
easy prey for pinches
neat nest
I do wonder if you can thief grapple into the secret vent exit
slate field
the elevator fucking sucks
We didn't have many problems with it since we had wiped out most of the lobby by that point, but it was intense
cosmic flame
yeah likewise hah
warm sage
WOW YOU SOUND... INSANE
sand sluice
not insane
cosmic flame
our third had his fucking internet dc on him while we were fighting the bots
sand sluice
she just moff
cosmic flame
which was
slate field
I think there was like one Rook left after we extracted lol
cosmic flame
alarming
neat nest
I like how DCs can be diegetically explained in Marathon
cosmic flame
and then we had to fight a team who came to third party LMFAOOOO
might have been the worst timed internet outage ever
warm sage
welp I'd say this is a good way to end Day 2 of Marathon
cosmic flame
one billion bullies
neat nest
I need to get more guns and meds lol
My loot prio is whack apparently
I have tons of backpacks and mods and shields and no guns or meds
cosmic flame
the problem is that nobody i fight has any god damn guns worth using
or their guns are just worse versions of the ones i have
neat nest
Outpost is a good map but I think Fire Marsh remains my fav Marathon map
cosmic flame
this marsh is fire 🔥🔥🔥
cosmic flame
ai outpost is like
a nicer more digestible version of pinwheel
in terms of the designers trolling the fuck out of you
the laser room in ai uplink is basically your own personal pinwheel
neat nest
I’m glad not everyone has to go into the fucking basement of AI uplink now
I forget who’s contract that was
cinder hare
WOW YOU SOUND... INSANE
HOTTEST VOICE EVER
sand sluice
fuckin rip
killed 4 players back to back but then fumbled my keys and hit my ult and the last dude just had to be the best aimer out all of them
neat nest
It’s kinda wild that I haven’t seen a single Twintap yet
I was drowning in them in the tech test
twin rain
maybe it's juiced now
neat nest
It was juiced then too
Almost as much damage per bullet as the Hardline but with 2x the first rate
twin rain
hm! I never got to try one out (or at least I don't remember it)
but- looking forward to it. sounds like my kinda gun
wouldn't be surprised if it was more localized to the Marathon, along with other things for its' "drop pool"
neat nest
Hmm maybe
cinder hare
It’s kinda wild that I haven’t seen a single Twintap yet
Twintap?
I forgot what fun that was
Gun
sand sluice
wraith warden plz
moar gold
plz
cinder hare
nevermind thoughts canceled
Ohhh seems like Arachne might need rank X or higher for more contracts…
MIGHT
Because I think Mida has a rank 10 mission
sand sluice
apparently devs did not like me exfilling so much
spawned 2 purple grenadiers and 4 blue ones
and had them all shoot their grenades at me at the same time
like jfc
sand sluice
had the first like true friendly interaction
apparently if you're triage you can let other runners hack your drone
and then they get it
Still sitting in disbelief
That I got hit by so many grenadiers
Like holy shit
Idc I'm gonna call moments like that getting marton'd
cinder hare
i love how UESC is a monster enemy
i adore how so many people have absolute fear over UESC
like it's horrifying fighting 3 commander-class enemies with a gray kit
but it's also exciting as hell
sand sluice
I have no fear
But also I melee kill green shields now
So
*green shield uesc
Eventually maybe I can melee kill blue shield uesc
cinder hare
if i get knife fight on arachne and then some melee mods
ill be knifing my way through the entirety of outpost
sand sluice
Why don't you do that already?
cinder hare
Shroud also says its super hard (big streamer is all i know) but the tone of voice sounds like they're enjoying it
cinder hare
Why don't you do that already?
healthbar.
also resources
ive only 16 hours on this game lol
sand sluice
Just believe
sand sluice
But uhh
Shroud is right
The AI in this game is probably the hardest out of all extraction shooters
cinder hare
game feels actually kinda easy in the long term
it's AI is hard but like, also really managable
cinder hare
i think outpost is like, hard hard
sand sluice
Outpost is easier to me than dire marsh tbh
cinder hare
its mostly just all the map condensation and the "logic" of the place
sand sluice
But it's also because for me the close quarters and angles is classic like, siege rotations
I once fended off 3 players from 3 different angles at once when I was in the middle of looting
I just couldn't chase to kill because again 3 players
And I had just killed 2
I want to fight scorch warden
But dire marsh is such a pain where a lot of players are getting easy shots with longer ranged weapons due to the map
With outpost the cascade scares enough players to chill tf out and so mant close areas I can play around angles
cinder hare
New skinning tech unlocked: Claymore on thief drone
cinder hare
yeah you can i think
ivory laurel
Outpost unlocked!
ivory laurel
Still gonna keep to Perim for a while
sand sluice
there some RATS
killed them and wraith warden, got 2 blue backpacks on the way to exfil
ivory laurel
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone up for some runs?
ivory laurel
Eku#4472 on the bungo
sand sluice
@cinder hare
better get those credits up, it costs 6k
obsidian latch
Oh awesome my game crashing yesterday counted me as getting wiped so I lost what little shit I had 
obsidian latch
RIP lol I figured that was a sign to stop for the night so I didn’t bother to boot up again
obsidian latch
Damn a run that only lasted 1:13 before we got wiped lmao
sand sluice
I've ended runs within 30 seconds before
you can spawn and run into others very quickly if you both run to the same spot lol
neat nest
My silliest run was a solo run where myself and random mutually killed each other south of complex 50 seconds in
mossy bridge
New skinning tech unlocked: Claymore on thief drone
you can also stand on top of it
and grapple onto it
mossy bridge
<@634903819792416778>
better get those credits up, it costs 6k
6k not including ammo*
sand sluice
tru
final onyx
153994350
mossy bridge
I think dire marsh needs to be nuked from the face of the planet
threw my twitch kit away because i was locked in the hacking animation
sand sluice
threw my twitch kit away because i was locked in the hacking animation
I kinda wish you could cancel those ye
I've almost died many times from them
obsidian latch
Just had my best run, all the players converged on bio lab an killed each other and my squad mopped up the rest
neat nest
I think dire marsh needs to be nuked from the face of the planet
Tycho would say this
neat nest
I kinda wish you could cancel those ye
It’s REALLY long too
obsidian latch
Is the Traxus intro supposed to be fucking annoying to do or am I just bad?
sand sluice
a lot of people view it as annoying
neat nest
It’s definitely one of the hardest faction unlock contracts
obsidian latch
I switched off it and of course the people I joined had it active, and it still took them almost 15 minutes to even find the terminal lmao
wraith vector
Is that the three computers in one round?
obsidian latch
Nah it’s like one terminal, one drone, and one UESC guy to kill
wraith vector
Ahhh
neat nest
You call a UESC commander with a terminal and get his shipping manifest and then use the shipping manifest scan a nearby crate
There’s 3 places to do it
My advice is basically don’t do Intersection unless you spawn there
I should play more destroyer
obsidian latch
patent thicket
Is Destroyer at all like a Titan?
twin rain
kinda! he's got the thruster from arc and can do shieldy stuff
final onyx
but the micromissiles only fire when you shoot enemies so they dont do that much
twin rain
the missiles are good when fighting commanders or similar (you need sustained damage to proc the volley which can be tough on players)
neat nest
you get a riot shield and micromissiles
The most important thing you get is the ankle breaker jets imo
indigo oriole
for pvp i find the missiles are good for like, intimidation/forcing people to stay in cover while buddy 1 or 2 flanks
twin rain
some small micromissile tech:
- you can "prime" a volley by shooting something until the meter is almost full (or three? beeps) then hitting something else. I'm not sure how long the charges last for though.
- When a volley fires, you can sweep your aim to hit multiple/spread out targets. They don't have target tracking (though there is a generous bit of aim assist on initial launch)
wraith vector
I feel like people just assume Destroyer is Shield Lad not the movement monster he is
twin rain
it is 100% an expectations problem rather than an issue with the shell. Though I would kinda like to see some more cores that buff the shield or give it extra utility (I know there's a couple already)
neat nest
I feel like people just assume Destroyer is Shield Lad not the movement monster ...
Yeah I wasn’t a destroyer believer until I saw a montage of a guy fucking dunking on people with the thruster and wstr
patent thicket
What’s the thruster do? Just a burst of speed or what?
twin rain
it's an airdash. pure lateral movement in the direction you press
patent thicket
Oh fuck that sounds fun as hell.
twin rain
LOTS of heat gen tho, be careful!
patent thicket
I’m still not sure about buying the game, I’ve just been lurking in here to feel it out.
$40 is a big ask for a game I’m not sure I’ll like, y’see.
twin rain
completely fair
patent thicket
I’ve never played an extraction shooter or even really had an interest in them, so I don’t really know what to expect.
I know dying is expected, but what actually happens? Do you get set back to square one?
indigo oriole
you do lose what you had on your person, but you do have a Vault to keep stuff in between runs / to keep stuff you've extracted with
twin rain
You lose everything that you brought with you and found in-run. You do have a "vault" at the main menu that stores all the gear you brought back on previous victories, plus gear you get from levelling up or buying/trading.
patent thicket
Hmm.
indigo oriole
whats your view on roguelikes
twin rain
there is meta progression that is persistent (but resets per season)
patent thicket
I generally don’t like them much, but I’ve had fun with some of them.
So I guess I could say that I’m picky about them, but not automatically opposed to them.
patent thicket
I assume that if you take something out of the vault you risk losing it.
neat nest
Anything you bring on a run can be lost
But mostly it can all be replaced
It feels kinda roguelike-like?
tawdry sequoia
If your team gets wiped without extracting everything on you is gone
twin rain
Yeah, the only place you can move things out of the vault is your backpack, which is risked when you run.
neat nest
With strong metaprogression and reasons to try out new setups depending on what you have in your vault
tawdry sequoia
You get a good amount of gear thrown at you by quests, leveling, achievements etc outside of successful runs
twin rain
it's important to not get too precious/attached to your loot (which seems crazy when the game is about getting the loot, but you will lose as much as you take)
tawdry sequoia
You do not have to be great to be fairly flush with equipment
And you can play stealthy and conflict avoidant if you're desperate to restock
sharp plover
but also everyone else is also risking all their stuff, so if you do down someone, you get to steal whatever they lost
neat nest
Yeah, it’s often the quickest way to restock haha
tawdry sequoia
Very easy to suddenly have too much to pick from after one good fight
neat nest
I swear I’m cursed every time I pick up a burg the run goes haywire
patent thicket
So is most of the loot just random crap you get money for extracting with?
sharp plover
some is money (Valuables), some of it can be traded for upgrades and gear (Salvage) along with unlocking codex entries (see Reverb's post), you can also find weapons and ammo and other usable items in the field as well
patent thicket
Is the drinkable cheeseburger a valuable item?
sand sluice
I think you get 1k credits for it
sharp plover
actually yeah, some of the valuables also give codex entries too
patent thicket
Codex entries you say.
sharp plover
fairly standard in-universe lore entries, mostly either explanations of enemies and factions and whatnot or narrative snippets of life in the colony before everything went to shit (usually related to the specific item)
neat nest
Many of them are also voiced
It’s kinda like unlocking little bits of the mystery via loot
sand sluice
sharp plover
the enemy ones mainly come from killing a certain number of that enemy, the faction ones from doing that factions stuff, etc
patent thicket
I’m a fan of the first three games and a lot of my interest is seeing what happened to Recon 52 and the W’rkncacnter.
sand sluice
only 470 hours to go within 29 more days :)
patent thicket
I know none of that’s in the game yet, but it’s gotta be a timeline where Recon 52 successfully stopped the W’rkncacnter from getting out.
neat nest
The loot categories in my mind are:
- mod items: weapon mods, runner cores, shell implants. Take up a lot of space but make you stronger directly
- weapons: very big but as useful as they imply
- salvage: relatively valuable if sold but best used as barter for factions which give big rewards
- valuables: auto sell and give lore entries. Worth a lot
- keys: open fancy loot rooms, often in other maps
- contraband: unique very strong very rare items. Don’t seem to give combat power
fallow coyote
god this game is so fun holy shit
sharp plover
marathon guns real at IWA 2026 https://i.imgur.com/NSkr5XG.png
neat nest
What the hell the are
twin rain
they got a long ways to go tbh. look like stamped guns but polymer
sharp plover
(extremely expensive Czech 9mm PCCs)
mossy bridge
marathon guns real at IWA 2026 https://i.imgur.com/NSkr5XG.png
i like em
sharp plover
well theyre 4000 dollars!
neat nest
Just like Marathon!
mossy bridge
you're gonna have to try hard to beat some of the maps in halo
cant speak for destiny as i never played either
wraith vector
I think my only qualm on the maps is some parts of Perimeter are a bit empty-feeling
Along the walls of the center there is just a lotta nothin
neat nest
I love fire marsh
Oh my god I used this slang term enough it poisoned my autocorrect
They should have dire marsh with heat cascade
mossy bridge
They should ban anyone who picks assassin on that map
And remove all the fart mushrooms, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THEY'VE HIDDEN BEHIND BUSHES
IM SOOOOOOOOOOOO MAD ABOUT THAT
mossy bridge
i go up to complex go between two buildings
there's a fart shroom hidden behind a bush
at least i got Some contracts done today
also a fuck ton of schemas extracted
schemas for the mida multi-tool (br33), 16 slot med and ammo packs, and these
distant zinc
They should have dire marsh with heat cascade
i think you’re cooking here
mossy bridge
i mean honestly it wouldnt be that bad
there's water everywhere
water makes you cool off quicker
distant zinc
i would love marsh if it didn’t run like shit (the whole game runs like shit to be fair but marsh is extra bad)
my poor CPU is exploding
mossy bridge
i should say this for anyone who doesnt know:
crouching cools you faster
and water, either rain or pools of it, cools you faster
cosmic flame
on the plus side, you can sprint through water like crazy
on the downside: SLOSHSLOSHSLOSHSLOSHSLOSJ
mossy bridge
on the plus side, you can sprint through water like crazy
on the downside: SLOSH...
speaking of dogs
where's the canini unit
cosmic flame
as a certified destroyer gamer i fuckin love how wet the marsh is
never met a problem i couldnt tac sprint at
i am shot in the head from offscreen
mossy bridge
i mean for vandal it lets me go crazy
especially if i use the ult where her heat gain is supremely reduced
fallow coyote
there's some implants that make your slide cost nothing in water
which i imagine goes well with vandal on marsh
vagrant carbon
I sniped someone who was standing idle while I was on a solo, I felt so bad jacking their shit
cosmic flame
anyone wanna peel some people
cosmic flame
S K I N
neat nest
anyone wanna peel some people
I can hop on
cinder hare
I sniped someone who was standing idle while I was on a solo, I felt so bad jack...
Just enjoy your free skinning
Want to marathon
But I’m out until almost 3 hours later 
shy heath
got the game earlier today and did the tutorial
mossy bridge
got the traxus quest done
i did it with some randoms
freedom
It's just sekiguchi then all the intro quests are DONE
tawdry sequoia
yeah I need to do seki
shy heath
boomdrone strats, based
sharp plover
absolutely nasty
cinder hare
I NEED to try this
rotund bough
Apex had a similar thing but despite our requests they patched it 🙁
tawdry sequoia
I can see the logic, it's great fun to do it, not much to be on the receiving end, and not sure how much defense you can have against instadeath around the corner
final onyx
you know that guy was abt to say a slur
mossy bridge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFYBEVeaFlw the soundtrack is so good
this and we stole a moon are my favourite
cosmic flame
sharp plover
rewatching Mandalore's Marathon reviews; remembered there were actually a few Tau Ceti colonists named including one who's prominent in M2. Has there been any mention of Robert Blake?
neat nest
I havent' seen it
tawdry sequoia
looking for a 3rd
mossy bridge
"World’s first quad feed in @/MarathonTheGame
they don’t stand a chance against my drone🫡"
clip by @/NotPitrex on twitter
tawdry sequoia
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone?
neat nest
I'm down in like 1-2 hours I need to take a brain break
cosmic flame
we ran into Bingus
neat nest
I managed to extract my twitch drop loot
cosmic flame
we managed to straight up steal a team's extract from under them
'we' is generous I did nothing but hang back and throw med drones at people but it was so funny
neat nest
I thought it was very funny that they just ran off the extract when my drone flew over
cosmic flame
the fucking invincible panel with the guy holding up his hand
mossy bridge
we ran into Bingus
yet to see a felini
cosmic flame
YEAH LITERALLYT
cosmic flame
cyan turns this guy into drinkable burger and then all of a sudden it's FRIENDLY! FRIENDLY! FRIENDLY!
mossy bridge
i almost had an exfil stolen
cosmic flame
claymore mind control is real
tawdry sequoia
oh the guy didn't see the claymore, he started it, I put down the claymore, triggered exfil once it was charged, he came running in, and went down to the claymore
vagrant carbon
I did find a claymore to use, but I got shot before I could use it or extract
cinder hare
Apex had a similar thing but despite our requests they patched it 🙁
Caustic Crypto?
Or the Rampart blitz?
cosmic flame
yeah I think it was Crypto
cinder hare
Nah talking about which Crypto meme they’re referring to
There’s like 3 different ones
I personally believe the Rampart one wasn’t too bad since that’s 2 ults PLUS one guy whose actively not fighting
Just for a boost in really funny movement
neat nest
they could've fought us for it!
They shot first!
twin rain
terrified by the indefensible extract zone
neat nest
That is one of the scariest extracts to defend
rotund bough
Cryptos drone in general yeah
cosmic flame
"AHHHHHHH SOMEONE ORDERED FOOD FROM MY RESTAURANT FUUUUUUCK"
sharp plover
mossy bridge
thinking about the mural near maintenance and AI uplink again
thinking it's not ||tycho durandal and leela|| but actually ||some of the colonies AIs, namely the agricultural one, Darius, the medical one, Gabriel, and possibly arthur (the main colony AI)||
||also there's 11 AIs total if you include tycho durandal and leela||
tawdry sequoia
that seems to track
mossy bridge
||where have we heard of there being 11 things before?||
mossy bridge
||where have we heard of there being 11 things before?||
nooticing...
Very Interesting, Bungie...
it's all conjecture right now anyway
sharp plover
||Arthur on the left, Darius in green and Gabriel in red tracks, especially with the plants on green and red's caduceus||
mossy bridge
yeah that's what i was thinking
sharp plover
i wonder if the use of the caduceus instead of the rod of asclepius is intentional
or just the standard confusion of the two
mossy bridge
i mean they're both medical symbols
sharp plover
thats a mistake, actually
mossy bridge
actually my mistake yeah
the rod of asclepius is the medical one
the caduceus is the symbol of hermes
Like many things we can blame the United States for it
sharp plover
caduceus is commerce and trade and other stuff but its sometimes used for medical organizations by mistake
and nobody can agree on why or how the mixup happened for the US Army
despite it being repeatedly brought up and various people giving different reasons and explanations
cosmic flame
so is the right hand mural ||Gabriel having to kill Darius as a result of the mutated agricultural products||
mossy bridge
apparently, ||Darius went rampant||
cinder hare
Yall make me want to play OG Marathons to learn the lore
mossy bridge
cosmic flame
||the visual symbology of the green guy making the people sick seems pretty obvious so it wouldn't surprise me if Darius was having a cheeky giggle transmuting wheat into SuperWheat That Kills You||
mossy bridge
Yall make me want to play OG Marathons to learn the lore
You don't have to, you can probably just watch MandaloreGaming's videos on the trilogy and also Pathways into Darkness and get the gist
cinder hare
mossy bridge
(also they're voiced by neil newbon which is nice)
cosmic flame
also something something ||Darius I, Battle of Marathon||
BUNGIE
cinder hare
I think Marathon is like, yet another Armored Core moment
Transest game ever (unintentional)
mossy bridge
if i had a dollar for every game that both ben starr and neil newbon have appeared in i'd have two dollars which is not a lot but weird that it's happened twice
(warframe)
neat nest
thinking it's not ||tycho durandal and leela|| but actually ||some of the coloni...
I agree
neat nest
And the colony AIs are much more prominent to the colonists
cosmic flame
i also think on a meta level it would be lame if they blew their load with the durandal throughline too quickly
mossy bridge
a lieutenant of a cult-PMC group who are known to use highly corrosive chemicals, sent in by the local government to contain an outbreak of a biomechanical virus
and
twin rain
||to me it seems like time/place/prison refers to how the remote overrides are coming from, at least from their perspective, beyond time and beyond their place, which is also their prison. It's still suggestive of rampancy, but not some paracausal bullshit, at least just yet||
cosmic flame
runners are largely just kind of chaff
mossy bridge
a sentient fish
cosmic flame
as opposed to the security officer who uhhhhhh
cinder hare
What I heard is some people were like, “why tf is the boss in the trailer aura farming so hard they’re mooks” (forgot the name, starts with a C)
twin rain
the Compiler
cinder hare
And then someone’s like, “You forgot the part where OG marathon gave us Warhammer gear and now we’re playing dude with a big gun”
mossy bridge
a lieutenant of a cult-PMC group who are known to use highly corrosive chemicals...
the security officer is literally prototype Master Chief
cinder hare
Compilers are fucking cool
mossy bridge
who may or may not be juiced up with ||jjaro technology||
neat nest
||to me it seems like time/place/prison refers to how the remote overrides are c...
There is ||paracausal bullshit in Traxus’ contract plotline though||
cinder hare
Also I don’t know what the fuck is up but I THINK there’s something political going on in the background with marathon haters
cinder hare
Ever since I started seeing marathon haters on my x feed I noticed more maga/heavily right wing accounts appearing
Honestly I only use it because there’s a lot of… artists on there lol
mossy bridge
Yes. Artists.
:)
seriously though i never saw any fan art of highguard and i've only saw people doing redesigns of concord characters
no actual fan art
but marathon? shit tons
i've seen miku vandal
i've seen catboy rook
i've seen, uh, three stack recon and rook
cinder hare
I’ve already starting seeing 34 km runs instead of 42.2 if you get what I mean
sharp plover
marathon has the sauce
cinder hare
Marathon has INSANE retention stats imo
mossy bridge
I hadn't even looked up and noticed the TWO PLANETS
cinder hare
Like the playerbase might not ever exceed like, 100k or whatever
mossy bridge
it's gonna be a the finals type beat
cinder hare
But it ain’t going to die for a very long time if they keep it up
mossy bridge
relatively small playerbase due to being somewhat niche
cinder hare
Yeah The Finals is a super specialist game
mossy bridge
but diehard fanbase because it's that good
cinder hare
It’s pace is borderline movement shooter levels
mossy bridge
let us not forget that the steam playercount numbers do not factor in playstation or xbox
speaking of it's so fucking lame that bungie couldnt make a single halo weapon charm
cinder hare
but diehard fanbase because it's that good
It also sucks because embark doesn’t know how to balance around skill / emergent gameplay as much
mossy bridge
steam users get a crowbar
playstation users get a helldivers 2, death stranding 2 and ghost of yotei charm
but xbox users? some generic green ones
the ps charms are also sick
helldivers skull, higg's guitar and the onryo mask the PC of ghost of yotei wears
twin rain
playstation users get a helldivers 2, death stranding 2 and ghost of yotei charm
to be fair they are owned by Sony now, who also licenses those games
mossy bridge
to be fair they are owned by Sony now, who also licenses those games
true but also screw you 343
twin rain
yeah
mossy bridge
considering that valve okayed a half-life charm
neat nest
Also I don’t know what the fuck is up but I THINK there’s something political go...
Yeah there’s always been a very confusing right wing bent to it
I used to make a game of looking up the profiles and seeing how long it’d take to get to something terrible lol
final onyx
modern right wing politics involve heavy anti-intellectualism where if it doesnt make sense at a glance they ignore it, and this game is
not what they like
cinder hare
What’s funny is I clocked it instantly for what it is
Probably has to do with a general enjoyment of graphic design and ttrpgs and being trans and autistic asf in the first place lmao
cinder hare
Yeah there’s always been a very confusing right wing bent to it
I’d say something about cult mentality but I’m not qualified enough to talk about it
final onyx
they didnt break out the newspeak but you can feel the chuddery
cinder hare
Espcially since I’m hella uninformed about majority of non-world class events
final onyx
i think the tendecy to present opinions as objective (e.g. "i dont like slow ttk" vs "ttk is slow therefore bad") gives it away
cinder hare
Mmm
warm sage
Also I don’t know what the fuck is up but I THINK there’s something political go...
oh 1000%
you can... smell it I guess
I think its mostly because of the Arc Raiders community idk what happened with that game but its wider community seems really greasy
sharp plover
doing quick solo runs with vandal is great, just using the ult to sprint clean across the map rules
cinder hare
Also the fact that marathon is insanely trans adjacent
Like you have Thief.
And Vandal.
neat nest
doing quick solo runs with vandal is great, just using the ult to sprint clean a...
Yeah I tried the perceived meta of being sneaky with Assassin but I just get more shit done rocking and rolling at a disrespectful pace with Vandal or Destroyer or Thief
neat nest
I think its mostly because of the Arc Raiders community idk what happened with t...
My experience is from the outside but Arc Raiders seems so weird community wise
With the like genuine anger about PvP and weird picking fights in other games discords and such
warm sage
<@&1474420814979010821> anyone down for some runs in like an hour maybe?
neat nest
Super down
cinder hare
Same
warm sage
With the like genuine anger about PvP and weird picking fights in other games di...
yeah I think thats Embarks fault LMAO
they catered to a really... lame? subset of people with how they treat PvP
pretty clear 99% of AI Raiders players don't really want to play an Extraction Shooter and just want to play Helldivers
which isn't like, a bad thing but its the main reason I don't like it(minus Embarks Anti VA stance with AI)
neat nest
pretty clear 99% of AI Raiders players don't really want to play an Extraction S...
That’s a good way to put it yeah
final onyx
i can understand not liking the sound of pvp in a game that lets players that do better have better gear
but marathon doesn have much in the way of pvp balance problems
neat nest
It does do a good job being a helldiverslike
Which there’s clearly a big demand for since both games popped off at launch
warm sage
i can understand not liking the sound of pvp in a game that lets players that do...
hold on now this is still a Bungie game
the WSTR is right there that alone is a problem LMAO
cinder hare
Marathon being an extraction extraction means balance issues are innately balancable through economy, etc
neat nest
i can understand not liking the sound of pvp in a game that lets players that do...
There’s a few things I think are lame but it’s actually really surprising how good the sandbox feels in terms of PvP
warm sage
also appearently you can give the WSTR SLUGS????
neat nest
You can win uphill battles but if you’re overmatching people in terms of gear you also really feel it
cosmic flame
I don't know if the wstr is strictly a problem of the wstr being good or a problem of certain map design choices
neat nest
also appearently you can give the WSTR SLUGS????
Every gold mod was made in hell to punish the people in its sights
cosmic flame
it is unbearable in Outpost, but that's because Outpost is a giant funnel into Pinwheel
neat nest
I suspect that the wstr will actually get weaker as counterplay develops
cosmic flame
in Dire Marsh there's a lot more opportunity cost to rocking a weapon that has no use beyond 10 meters
sand sluice
wstr you mainly gotta play around if you know they have it.
it's why grenades are important
warm sage
I don't know if the wstr is strictly a problem of the wstr being good or a probl...
I think the shotguns are gonna really fuck shit up when Cryo Archive drops
cinder hare
I think WSTR is super strong but partly cuz it’s surprisingly common
sharp plover
its also only super powerful point blank
neat nest
Since “run near them and plug people at short range” is way easier than stopping it
warm sage
cause if its as cramped as it looks then yeah its gonna be an issue
neat nest
I think the shotguns are gonna really fuck shit up when Cryo Archive drops
Cryo seems big from what little we’ve seen
sharp plover
doors and corners
warm sage
Cryo looks big but cramped
cosmic flame
yeah the thing with Cryo is that it could be entirely inside Pinwheel
sharp plover
cosmic flame
which gives it a lot more room to have longer range bands than a single POI
warm sage
no spoilers from the beaters please but it seems like most engagements are gonna happen in hallways and through doors
cosmic flame
we gotta come up with a better nickname than that
sharp plover
(its an SAO joke)
cosmic flame
the point stands
warm sage
we gotta come up with a better nickname than that
this is the one time I can talk about SAO without hating on it I have to take this
sharp plover
what about meater
cinder hare
WSTR is strong heavily cuz of maps I agree
cosmic flame
I'm just glad it can't be datamined after having to live through 6000 years of destiny raids being spoiled day -40
neat nest
Very few people got a chance the playtest cryo
cosmic flame
that shit was worse than JJKtwt
neat nest
There was a very low profile one before the April alpha happened
And I think some of the Jan playtest people got to see it
warm sage
I'm just glad it can't be datamined after having to live through 6000 years of d...
POV bungie finds the guy who leaked the second layer of the UESC Marathon
neat nest
But there’s barely even rumors of what it’s like so it’s gonna be insane to see people go in
cosmic flame
Plan the Baytesters leaking in from fight-club
sharp plover
yeah i imagine bungie is only going to add new stuff exactly as it becomes available
cosmic flame
yeh they're fully aware of the playerbase's ginsor propensities
or just the fact that people have been no-clipping into raid lairs with sparrows for years
no external hardware required, just a lot of time to waste flying into jackassed OOB areas
cinder hare
that shit was worse than JJKtwt
Based on the shit that goes on in jutsufolk I don’t wanna imagine what happens there
cosmic flame
#FLENSE THE LEAKERS
sand sluice
we'll see how problematic the wstr becomes as weeks into the wipe develop, when people start having so much credits they don't know what to do with
cinder hare
We’re already near that point lol
cosmic flame
i think the smgs also have a fighting chance at spacing wstr users which is a nice change of pace from being pissed on by slug shotguns for the temerity of using a CQC weapon in d2
sand sluice
I mean I am yeah
I just don't take the shotgun because it's ridiculously expensive and 9/10 it's unnecessary for me lmao
cinder hare
Lots of the streamers whose full time job is marathon and all that probably have millions
sand sluice
depends
right now none of them are super far ahead to anyone that puts in the time, once the weeks go in it will 100% happen
cinder hare
I’m guessing but there’s people with like 500 hours from the play tests and slams alone lmao
neat nest
I’m still wondering what’s with the top of Complex
sand sluice
cause ya know, people have jobs
neat nest
There’s a large area which is sealed off
cosmic flame
I actually find it quite simple
sand sluice
like IIRC I was infront of all of ottr's stack by like 8ish levels
rn the biggest power spike advantage people have are like stryders or scouts in dire marsh
any other map just depends on if they have the sightline
final onyx
i think the smgs also have a fighting chance at spacing wstr users which is a ni...
d2 pve and pvp were too different to use the same weapon stats, class abilities, etc for both
so like 3 weapon types dominated
neat nest
I lot of my wstr time has been:
- get overconfident because I have a wstr
- rush people
- panic miss in a complicated situation
- fuck
It’s worked best for me as a sidearm to prank people with
cosmic flame
d2 pve and pvp were too different to use the same weapon stats, class abilities,...
easily the biggest benefit of marathon over d2 is that it's a sweatlord game that isn't trying to split the diff between mutually incompatible goals
the fact that they only managed to do split sandbox changes like seven years into the game's existence is disgusting
neat nest
Yeah it’s fuckin crazy that they managed to do even acceptable PvP and pve in a game like that
sand sluice
I lot of my wstr time has been:
- get overconfident because I have a wstr
- rus...
yeh makes sense, for me the few times I've had it it's usually been just
get cqc>win
but I only used it like 3 times cause why would take a wstr just for random player loot when I can just kill all of them with the bully anyways.
I'm sure it'll change later as everybody can buy it but right now very few people run it and when they do I just chuck grenades around the corner and kill them that way
final onyx
i enjoyed destiny less than i would have liked to because hand cannons suck ass in pve
a range buff would be unacceptable because of the effect on pvp, but without it they are just worse scout rifles
cosmic flame
it's also fun that a single weapon can actually have opportunity costs used for pve and pvp, rather than just keeping a pve and pvp roll or having one but not the other
which I think just generates more interesting decisions
WSTR is a prime example because we all know it FUCKS players, but outside of really specific builds like the mod combo that gives it 20 in the mag it feels like shit to use it for pve
neat nest
Yeah it’s scary when you put both barrels into a blue or purple UESC and they just punch you
final onyx
and thorn got obliterated for the pvp crime of having high burst damge and a DoT
cosmic flame
the existence of bows lmao
final onyx
Yeah it’s scary when you put both barrels into a blue or purple UESC and they ju...
that happened to my my first time using onw
neat nest
Bungie should add a mips ammo machine gun need to flex my wallet
cosmic flame
I figure there'll probably be a volt version of that with the special ammo volt battery
I think the only weapons that use it are the fusion rifle and the volt sniper but a turbo SCAR would be sick
neat nest
Also good
neat nest
I think the only weapons that use it are the fusion rifle and the volt sniper bu...
The circuit breaker also uses em
cosmic flame
that's the fusion rifle
cosmic flame
I mean it's not really a fusion but short-ranged charged one-shot machine, I've played these games before
neat nest
Yeah that’s fair
cosmic flame
I've used the backup plan erentil
sharp plover
fusion rifle is the destiny weapon category that it functions like
cosmic flame
delicate tomb also does fire a shotgun spread but it's weird
cosmic flame
it's probably fair that the most bow-like gun is the ares
sharp plover
when are we getting grenade launchers
cosmic flame
sharp plover
that one i imagine is a never, because itd almost definitely outclass the existing grenades even if it was HE only
neat nest
All the runners have arms like cannons so a launcher might not add that much haha
sharp plover
yeah
cosmic flame
i feel like MIPS to explosives wouldn't be a terrible trade but i'm not sure
sharp plover
and i doubt we'll get a rocket launcher unless they add some significantly tougher enemies
neat nest
There is that “headshots make people explode” mod I guess
sharp plover
welcome back grunt birthday party
cosmic flame
15 grenades to a stack would be kind of crazy though
cinder hare
I notice that Outpost builds tend to be WSTR + something like the Strydr or BRRT
cosmic flame
it'd probably actually have to work like the fighting lion where you have to airburst or hit people direct and you have to reload every shot
cinder hare
Basically a strong PvE + a strong PvP
cosmic flame
I think the WSTR is just kind of mandatory
neat nest
lol
cinder hare
Double barrels tend to be like that
cosmic flame
the rest is jazz but you must bring the WSTR because if you don't have one the other guy in Pinwheel will
sharp plover
lmao
cosmic flame
and there's nothing outside Pinwheel that is worth the headache of having to actually think about exfils