wanton salmon
in the comics, pheonix-jean has superbooster normal telekenisis and telepathy and hyperboosted PYROkinesis, massive flame powers, self regeneration self healing, and not so much healing others as resurecting others after they die
if they make her a full strategist im rioting, but she could defintiely have a resurection ult that works on herself and or others
id make her a telepath/telekinetic tank/dps hybrid, who powers up to switch to gain fire based aoes, flying and self healing, with an ult that resurects one dead ally and gives herself a "free" instant resurection once, without stacking "charges"
green junco
The evil third option, flying tank
wanton salmon
grounded tank with flying dps mode
and a ressurection ult
tho honestly she could be a good sniper too
sniper telepath as an opposite to emma frost, with her pheonix state being a close range high mobility high health thing, could also work
honestly interested to see what they give her
if they give her anything interesting and dont make her a full support, it could bring me back in to play regularly again honestly
jeans awful i love her
runic apex
i think both are duelsits
wanton salmon
hopeful she has either a resurection ability or pheonix power up mode or something interesting
but duelist can work for sure
i kind of hope she isnt another perma-flyer character
runic apex
i agree on that, i kinda maybe could see my self likeing blade's moveset
wanton salmon
yeah, though to be massivly comics brained, it does feel a bit like they gave him Elsa Bloodstones moveset with the magic sword and shotgun combo lmao, but i love a blood meter
i really hope pheonix is jean most of the time, with pheonix mode being a super boosted flying ult, or flying on a meter except when she ults or something
runic apex
midnight gave him guns and sword
he mainly did bleed and had a lot of chain hits
but also had 1 or 2 just "you die now" heavy hits
runic apex
i this season hit lord on mantis and scarlet
hexed niche
id make her a telepath/telekinetic tank/dps hybrid, who powers up to switch to g...
I know the tank idea comes from the Pheonix regeneration but in my mind pheonix is like
Unfathomably squishy lol
I’m just MVC brained though
wanton salmon
shes gotta at least be tough enough to survive orbital re-entry, and even regular jean when she is powered up can make herself silly tough if she focuses on blocking with telekenises
hexed niche
Yah but when I think of pheonix I think of marvel 3 pheonix where if you touch her she instantly dies
And if she has level 5 meter when you touch her she instantly wins
hexed niche
Yah, her gimmick is that she has the lowest health in the game by far (less then half of the second lowest) but, if she has max meter when she dies she resurrects as dark pheonix and becomes the best character in the game
Actually I do wonder if dark pheonix will be an ult or something
Because that is by far the best known pheonix story
wanton salmon
my ideal world gives her something like.....
the small dps sized health pool and a long range telepathic sniper rifle, a self directed telekenetic ability that gives an airdash and slowfall and gives her body like 0.25 seconds of projectile invulnerability to parry and reasonable self-shield as her off tank ability, a pyrokinesis knockback short ranged ability and a telekinetic ability to rip a chunk out of a wall and throw it at people thats only medium range and dependent on being near destructible terrain
then her ult respawns her and one other currently dead player, with her getting a pheonix install that turns her into a close range, manueverable, high health dps, with her sniper becoming a flamethrower, her dash becoming perma-flight and chunky shield, her knockback becoming a pull in that applies damage over time, and her wall chunk throwing ability just getting huge aoe
yeah, pheonix ult
everyone wants the transformation moment as her big cool thing
and it would be neat to keep her health low but give her other ways of being survivable, even if its just a psudohealth shield that other supports cant heal
violet ridge
yeah, though to be massivly comics brained, it does feel a bit like they gave hi...
Does Elsa use a magik sword? She usually very shotgun centric
wanton salmon
oh yeah i just phrased it poorly
that from whats released it looks like blades gun is just a shotgun
feels very elsa bloodstone like
bur he does also have a sword which is neccesery for blade
runic apex
one thing i do like about blade is he seems like hes more of normal damage
instead of flight or half vanguard
runic apex
got to diamond
hexed niche
When does the competitive season end?
runic apex
11 days
hexed niche
Thanks
fervent pumice
fervent pumice
soft pollen
Kinda vibing with this take on the Future Foundation suit.
hexed niche
Honestly the only future foundation suit I like tbh
It actually keeps the proper color scheme
Mostly anyway
raven summit
green junco
Blade and Jean nice nice
lapis aspen
That hela skin looks like it might be cool
hexed niche
So hela is the queen in black?
lapis aspen
I hope it's not two straight DPS. Like one of them is a flex
runic apex
they are both dps based on the leaks
hexed niche
Also looks like the outfits they were wearing at the end of the trailer are gonna be their launch skins
hexed niche
Klyntar infected Pheonix and Blade
runic apex
hes a melee ranged hybrid
teal mist
Jean looks like some kind of stand-haver
green junco
I wonder if Jean is a dual character swap like cloak and dagger
runic apex
from what the few dataminde stuff we have it did kinda sound like she has two modes
green junco
That could be it
runic apex
jean grey is confirmed first
kinda wanted blade more after reading his ablities
yeah that looks kinda creepy
lapis aspen
https://preview.redd.it/p44pgp1w6aaf1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=b76252cde832e338c4303a563...
Jean Grey rocking up with the Phoenix like "Me and my girlfriend saw you across the bar"
runic apex
also is it wierd to say hela somehow looks less edgy in the new skin
raven summit
DUDE BLADE!
runic apex
yeah sadly blade is the 2nd one to be released
runic apex
i got them to knight and never played them again
Emma is really good, but i just didn't enjoy her
lapis aspen
I like to play Emma into Groot and Strange but you just go so much free main fire charge
runic apex
I don't really play tank but when i do i play mag
my most played is Squirrel,Scarlet, and mantis
lapis aspen
I've been playing more Strange this season. Managed to get to the point where I'm good enough I can actually get value out a strange portal
I think it's underused for keeping up pressure. Like people end up saving it so much for the end they don't get full possible value out of it
runic apex
my friend mainly plays strange and mag as his tanks
hes more a tank player than anything
Hes better with strange than mag in someways
but he is kinda scary at saving people with mag
Strange feels more like his damage tank, while mag feels more like his "anti fun" tank
lapis aspen
I've shifted from being a general flex player into being a tank main. Love all the tanks
runic apex
Ive always been damage focused usally as charcters with some sort of CC
wanton salmon
damn that promo video goes hard as hell
got a pop from me with the blade theme lmao
im kinda feeling, not great above making pheonix jean's stand tho lmao
her powers are already huge, complicated and well defined
feels a bit like making venom into eddy brocks stand-cool, rad idea , id read that comic, but not really what you want out of playing that character in a video game
green junco
I mean we haven't seen her abilities yet so I'm holding off until I know what they are same goes for non twitter post based blade ability leak
fervent pumice
runic apex
jeangrey ranged duelist confirmed
jean and wolvrin get a team up
torch and spiderman
squirrel girl joins ironman and ultron teamup
its a homing acorn
emma being hit again, venom and thing being buffed
I think from what it looked like the homing acorn is weaker than the web, it does work better against her counters.
thing is getting a new ablity
he can now jump to enemes
ironman is getting nerfed as is punisher turret
fantastic survabilty while big being reduced
namor primar buff and scaret ult buff
mantis healing and ult buff
invisable woman healing buff
ultron getting a nerf
lapis aspen
Maybe with new Mantis Buffs I'll get back into playing her. She was my main healer for most of season 0 and 1
runic apex
i think shes still really good even without the buffs
I think people need to preheal with her more
lapis aspen
She's definitely not bad, just stopped being as fun for me as other healers
runic apex
i like the squirrel team up
web acorn is better most of the time but i think the new teamup is better for fighting her counters and getting finishers.
runic apex
I will say they do need to stop giving up what seems to be strong team ups to already strong charcters like the new wolverine one
sacred walrus
nice, unstable molecules being available without spending money
no torch changes kinda surprising. that guy went crazy in the last tournament across a bunch of teams. same with invisible woman tbh
wolverine is going to be crazy if jean is remotely decent. he's already a solid pick/ban candidate and giving him more sustain seems super good. looks like it wasn't a new CD though, so there's that?
thing buff is interesting bc the stats i saw put him as ok-ish on ladder, but he's also been super frequent in the last couple tournaments. mags been basically a perma ban, and i wonder if its just thing because there aren't better options? (groot being really bad into some comps but great into others, emma being the other tank often)
runic apex
emma kills other tanks
runic apex
I don't know how i feel about the sg one
green junco
90% sure the Jeff skin is a legendary
runic apex
wolverine is going to be crazy if jean is remotely decent. he's already a solid ...
so many heavily banned charcters are becaues they keep giving charcters game breaking teamups.
like storm
wanton salmon
i feel like they definitely could have done better for venom!squirrelgirl
runic apex
nobody is banning storm because of storm
sacred walrus
wolverine was never banned because of his teamup before, and i don't think he'll really start being banned because of his new teamup specifically tbh. he was banned because he's just an incredibly powerful character in general
runic apex
he never had a real teamup until now
sacred walrus
he's had fastball special for ages, and that thing is crazy good
runic apex
its kinda eh and its more of a mechnic than a team up
while the new tema up makes his damage better and gives him lifesteal
sacred walrus
i'm not sure what you mean. objectively, it is a teamup. and subjectively, it's outstanding and gets a ton of mileage for making start of fight kidnaps possible
runic apex
its pretty hard to use as it relies on the thrower and the wolverin to be good with an awkard abilty
sacred walrus
like yeah i agree they're different but like - fastball special is crazy good for forcing fights to be 5v6 (sans rez)
runic apex
the ammount of times ive seen fastball do something useful is very very low
sacred walrus
idk what you mean. i think it's quite easy to use as long as you're good with wolverine, the thrower just needs "aim up in direction of enemy team" + coordination via comms
runic apex
the one time i saw it reguarlly do work was an obivous pairing of a duo who had practicied it
sacred walrus
ive seen it put up crazy numbers once you're out of elo hell and into at least low gm elo hell
green junco
Wolverine also has a lot of control of his movement in the air, like being able to 180 if the hulk tried to troll you or is bad at aiming
Just being in the air is enough for a competent wolverine to grab a flier while Animals plays in the background
runic apex
I don't think its as good as geting extra damage and lifesteal on every leap.
sacred walrus
dunno. i think it's also like - bans are basically irrelevant for any elo under celestial, and im saying that as hardstuck gm
if you check any of those aggregate sites, theres still some standouts but otherwise the bans stay super similar until gm/celestial/etc., where a lot of the 'top bans' from lower elo just aren't relevant anymore. doesn't mean those characters are actually that strong, just means they're either super low skill ceiling or they're hard to counter w/o good general gameplay
wolv goes from 5% banrate in plat to 20% in gm, and its just because the skill ceiling on him is super high, but he's super oppressive when he's good
and so id be super surprised if its enough to make him good at pubstomping, and he's already 'meta' at elos where skill diff has equalized
(for reference - roughly 25% of players are bronze, 50% are silver/gold/plat/diamond, and the remaining 25% is gm+)
sacred walrus
sounds about right - i think it fluctuates, and obviously by the end of the season there's a lot more people in diamond then there were are the start
runic apex
ive just been mainly banning storm and ironman in comp
anytime we didnt ban storm we regreted it fast
sacred walrus
yeah iron man is super annoying
runic apex
banning ironman hits ironman who is abit overtuned, but it also hits ultron who not only gets a team up from him, but pairs with him so well that its just misserable to fight an ironman pocketed by ultron
its even worse if also an invisable woman is protecting ironman
I think the peni teamup is overrated
sacred walrus
man, ban rates are hilarious to look at. spiderman goes from 20% at plat and below to 5% once you hit diamond. storm goes from 20% at plat to 35% in diamond/gm back down to 20% immediately after. wolv/hulk keeps slowly rising, not banned in low elo but are top 3 bans in eternity
runic apex
i lost a match one because the team was so obsesed with it as if it would win us the game
sacred walrus
you can really see the point where each the ranks start including good hela/bucky/anti-flier dps
runic apex
the rocket just pocketed the aweful peni
sacred walrus
and then you can really see the point where ranks start including enough people who actually enjoy playing tank that people start hating tanks again
runic apex
i will say the two matches that we did fight against an ironman they both got beat down pretty well
this was the entire thing this one ironman did
sacred walrus
i will say the two matches that we did fight against an ironman they both got be...
i think he's got a higher skill floor than a lot of ppl who load up ironman think he does
like he's definitely strong and super annoying, but you do have to have a decent amount of gamesense to not overextend. i think same with a lot of dive dps, ironman is just easier to escape with vs. a dive
like if he just hides behind the full team he's a lot harder to kill than an iron man convinced people cant look up
runic apex
in this case i just saw him deicded **"NO,"**i don't want to play with you today
the other one was just me being wierdly good about hitting him
i lowered my sens from 2.75 to 2.65 and it helped a lot
im probally still gonna ban ironman and storm next season unless his unibeam is what gets hit
even with the teamup im not worried about wolverine because scarlet and SG do pretty well against him, and peni as well.
lapis aspen
thing buff is interesting bc the stats i saw put him as ok-ish on ladder, but he...
I think his buffs are about the fact he couldnt really interact with flyers before
green junco
They have the thing an anti flying ability which is nice
green junco
In case it wasnt mentioned earlier, Jean Grey is a ranged duelist
And she's coming first, Miller Ross has been pretty accurate with his leaks/posts so far so
runic apex
because we have already seen blade before, while jean was completely new.
runic apex
I might actully be really hype for her
Yeah she actully fits my play style
I love ranged flank
and she is indeed ranged flank
teal mist
Ult looks neat
runic apex
Honestly this is what i wanted as a dps a new ranged flank to play with
I don't really like mk, and i already play scarlet and SG
i orginally was more excited about blade but that has changed now
raven summit
The first skin is probably Madeline Pryor.
lapis aspen
The ult instantly destroying summon including ults like Hellas seems like it'll be really interesting to play around
But she definetly looks fun
raven summit
green junco
She looks like fun, very much an anti group killer, pretty neat
Jean about to divebomb your ass into the next universe
lapis aspen
Jean/Moonknight/Squirrel Girl team when they see two people standing near each other
wanton salmon
The first skin is probably Madeline Pryor.
I hope not, thats straight up a different person, who should probably be her own character just to sell outfits if nothing else
especially if jean is going to the pheonix ONLY, it would be nice to see madelyn
raven summit
Hmm, fair.
wanton salmon
that said i am a hater so who knows
runic apex
I want an xmen evoultion skin for scarlet
lilac snow
There's a whole bunch of different X-men eras to give Jean costumes of
lapis aspen
Kind of hard to tell how much of it is going to be new, and how much it's going to be the old Klyntar map with new elements
runic apex
ok si im not crazy that i honestly that one part of it was just an edited section
i don't think it is
but somreason thats whta my brain thought
lik,e this just really feels like the opening of klyutar to me
lilac snow
https://youtu.be/zsWg4h7Eiss?si=phKdAThCCwvC9Tc_
Y'know, if someone's unfamiliar with Jean Grey you could probably assume she's a villain from her voice lines (and I'm here for it)
"Burn, mortals", "You are nothing"... slay, queen
hexed niche
Y'know, if someone's unfamiliar with Jean Grey you could probably assume she's a...
I mean… this is pheonix era Jean
So yah kinda
Like she wasn’t being a good guy during this run
lilac snow
Ye but she's usually called Dark Pheonix on a villain arc
hexed niche
Yah but like, pheonix Jean is always really close to becoming Dark Pheonix Jean
green junco
It's what happens when you have a crazy powerful celestial cosmic force in your head
Just playing god at that point
timber garnet
girlboss
runic apex
they also yeah i don't really feel like they actully buffed mantis
Mantis
Mantis's healing touch grows, and her Ultimate is more potent, but its frequency is reduced.
These are not good changes
it makes her better at healing tanks but worse at anything else
which i think her strength was being able to give squishies healing over time
lapis aspen
Don't like this phrasing
runic apex
so if your healing a 600 hp tank you now heal 27.5 per second
which overall is only 5 seconds faster to full heal
a tank
while healing squishes for less
i guess its kinda eh?
18.25 for a 250
its still a netnerf at this point cause of the ult
lapis aspen
I think it's gonna make playing tank with a mantis on your team much better
green junco
Don't like this phrasing
lapis aspen
Hela getting a healing team up is kind of wild
runic apex
ok so invisable woman is getting not really a buff
kinda
they are just moving 5 hp/damage from the return to the first hit
it is i would say better sure but still kinda wierd
teal mist
One day they'll break Luna's shins but not this day v-v
runic apex
i found it wierd they nerfed emma then buffed her ult, like her ult is already one of the btter ones in the game idk why they like to give strong charcters "adjustments" instead of just a flat nerf that end up being a net nothing a lot of the time
lapis aspen
Her being more killable in diamond form is going to have a big effect I think. Especially when she's fighting rocket
runic apex
i do think it will help some yeah making her weaker
lapis aspen
As when she grabs she stays fully still and you do tons of damage as rocket when that happens already
runic apex
Wanna know what i think might be a wierdly good nerf for her
make her grab animation faster
this reduces her "i got them" KILLTHEM time
actulkly wait i take that back
that would also be a buff for her in some ways
it would also make her less vudlnarable
lapis aspen
Making her grab slower could easily go into she's useless Territory. It's have to be a very small nerf I think
runic apex
if her grab is slower it makes her stronger if she has teammates but weaker if she is near enemies
lilac snow
Wait why are they buffing emma's ult
Could be compensation, if she's dealing and taking less damage she can't hit 3700 charge as fast
runic apex
That actully does make sense.
teal mist
Adjusting ult charge rate does seem to be their favorite adjustment
and honestly I don't really feel the impact often when they do
other than the time Cap needed some ungodly low number and threw one every teamfight
runic apex
my tank friend said he notices the strange one
wet trout
VENOM SQUIRRELL
wet trout
https://youtu.be/zsWg4h7Eiss?si=phKdAThCCwvC9Tc_
she looks really cool
runic apex
i still don't know how i feel about venom squirrel yet
sometimes i look at it and like it and other times i don't
lapis aspen
I'm reserving judgment for the whole skin, but I like it so far
teal mist
I feel like they kind of need to retool tanks
Things just feel kind of cursed right now
Magneto On Top and then kind of everyone else existing in a vague state of unease
Emma doing her Emma thing sometimes
Peni is apparently doing great but like it's hard to call it tanking exactly idk
Countering BP and webbing up fliers
lapis aspen
Thing is really good at defending healers against lots of character, and his lack of ability to interact with flyers is getting changed this season.
Peni controls space like nobody else, and her reputation is damaged heavily by General Wait-and-See's who sit on their nest whilst their team tries to take point.
Emma is a sort of a DPS/Tank Hybrid so her being a bit weird makes sense
I think Dive Tanks are doing good jobs making space by making people peel back for their healers. Or punishing if they don't
The main issue for tanks currently is that a lot of the time they're solo tanking. Whilst the game is built around 2/2/2, meaning their kits don't quite work
Except for tanks who do well solo, which is mostly shield tanks
teal mist
Peni sitting at a 57% winrate which seems wild, I might just be a bit blah about Thor going unchanged
lapis aspen
Thors definetly not as good as he used to be, he can't brawl like he used to
but one day. One day Brawl comp will be back and everyone will cheer
teal mist
He can't really do much of anything atm it's rough out here
That bonus hp nerf combined with how much goddamn dps is being flung around
sacred walrus
Thing is really good at defending healers against lots of character, and his lac...
i think peni is also heavily damaged by being really really bad at taking points vs. other tanks. she's not bad at it, but she's definitely a lot worse if your team needs to take space and you're not really good with her
i don't think she's particularly weak or particularly op right now, but i think a lot of the winrate is "if there's a peni on point and your team isn't hustling, good luck getting it back"
teal mist
Double dps season not going to help SoloTanking issue
and Wolverine improvements, a curse
One of my friends is really trying to say three seconds on his dive is a gamechanger but I'm firmly on 'he doesn't need to do it twice'
lapis aspen
i think peni is also heavily damaged by being really really bad at _taking_ poin...
I think on domination maps I agree, but on convoy missions she's still good on attack because of how narrow a lot of the paths are.
Like on convoy she can set up nests in places which let push onto point with webs, and by mining the enemy backline she can get decisive fight victories
teal mist
/still wouldn't mind if she couldn't fling the mines that far but alas
lapis aspen
I'm not talking about across the map line ups. I'm talking about, across a team fight.
teal mist
Ahh, gotcha. Still feels a bit strange for 'mines' but I've felt the same way since demoman tf2
sacred walrus
I think on domination maps I agree, but on convoy missions she's still good on a...
oh, i think she's still good on attack for both - she's good at holding space, as long as your team can take it
but let's be real - short of decisive ults, its hard sometimes for your random no comms teammates to take that space 😔
lapis aspen
Peni can sort of pre take space on some maps by setting up a nest behind the enemy
But someone still needs to push people into it true
sacred walrus
theres probably also something to be said about the ppl who instalock dive dps not really contributing very well for the "push in and take space" aspect lol
like sure you made an opening but somebodys gotta walk forward, and the mag cant always do that
runic apex
I think one of the problems with tanks is emma
shes really good at killing other tanks
fervent pumice
green junco
The Knull creator also thought this season was going to be cool
Too bad he didn't negotiate his contract with Marvel when he signed it because he gets no royalties for his character being in non comic media
fervent pumice
runic apex
has anyone said what their thoughts are pehonix's power
sacred walrus
she seems cracked, but torch also seemed cracked, and on release he was OK at best. he's outstanding rn but he sure wasn't before
runic apex
i think she is strong from just the little ive seen, i didn't think torch was strong when i first saw it
sacred walrus
i think its gonna be real hard to tell anything about how good she'll be until we actually can play her
runic apex
im watching flats playing she seems a bit less stronger than i thought, while the wolverine might be insane with the teamup
I could see her being a favorite of min ethough
teal mist
Wolverine has never been bad the teamup is fearful
runic apex
yeah wolverine was never bad but in this match wolverine is just obleriating
getting ult off a lot
runic apex
the best tank in the game is really good at killing tanks
teal mist
So strong is their loathing for them
runic apex
i feel like its less tanks being in a bad spot
its just they keep giving out anti tank tools
but jean is very much my style
a ranged flanker with some cc
teal mist
And self-heal!
timber garnet
LOooks pretty fun
teal mist
Mawile...
green junco
Heat
green junco
Double heat
wanton salmon
oh hey nice to see more scarlet witch costumes with her headvand
green junco
thats Jean Grey
wanton salmon
thats the joke
sacred walrus
https://youtu.be/U_gxe8exuxI?feature=shared
the symbiote squirrel girl skin is pretty dope. i don't really know if i want to wear it, but it's a super super neat idea, really cool
runic apex
yeah i think id like it more in 2d than 3d
sacred walrus
i think i'd have to see how it looks in-game on somebody else, outside of just the preview
runic apex
maybe i think it looks a bit busy? for the colours
sacred walrus
the white/gold bp & adam are... not really my fave, but i can definitely see them being OK. i do think that random guy's youtube video makes a good pt of those being good rank reward skins
i like the namor skin, kinda wished they hadn't given him a skin and had saved the effort for just... a better namor skin than the ones we have rn? like they're all fine but i'd love to see a more visually interesting skin than this/the last battlepass skin. not necessarily a legendary but a more dramatic redesign at least
runic apex
i want a scarlet skin that isnt red or at least feels more diffrent
like a diffrent vibe
all her skins kinda give off the same vibe
sacred walrus
yeah but consider: what about ANOTHER spiderman skin?
(the upcoming new spiderman skin is 100% reasonable, but hopefully now with that + future foundation spiderman he can stop getting so many jesus lol)
sly yew
Can squirrel girl also fit stupid amounts of food in her mouth like regular squirrels?
Does she feel the need to hibernate?
or is it less mentality of squirrel and just squirrel abilities?
green junco
Not much squirrel mentality just squirrel/superhuman powers
Prehensile tail, general superstrength, climbing with claws, healing factor, can talk to squirrels, night vision, superhuman jaw strength (can break through steel doors in seconds)
She can also jump really really high
raven summit
What if Christopher Daniel Barnes voiced Spidey in Marvel Rivals.
supple heron
ooooh
wanton salmon
the symbiote squirrel girl skin is pretty dope. i don't really know if i want to...
i really wanst sold on it till i saw the 360 in the anination and realised it had a huge grody mouth tail and that rules
lilac snow
The maw!
lapis aspen
triple off of one cape burst feels so good
hexed niche
When does the new season start?
runic apex
11th
hexed niche
Thanks
green junco
timber garnet
The answer is both
green junco
I'm gonna guess she's gonna go "you're a half yokai who hunts other yokai, I respect that"
timber garnet
Yeah
green junco
Or something of that nature
raven summit
She's best friends with an oni in her universe. She's used to it.
sly yew
Not every yokai is wicked
There's one called Nasu baba, she just helps peeps who get lost in the forest near the temple where she used to live
lapis aspen
finally got to knight on all tanks
After playing hulk into some fliers I understand his AA abilities a lot better. Even if I couldnt get jump drags off I could still get hits in on them
fervent pumice
steady flame
I like Loki's summer hat
runic apex
i agree good hat
green junco
Symbiote storm looks awesome
runic apex
I like jean
i don't think she is a better hela like people thought she was
yeah i really like jean
runic apex
another good change ive noticed is
the ui is really fast
also mantis i think got a really big hidden buff
her projectiles feel a ton better
lapis aspen
My hand isnt fast enough on the draw to have really given her a chance yet
runic apex
i like hte new map
runic apex
the new sg team up is worse for sure but its also really funny
runic apex
runic apex
its kinda slidy once you get fast eonugh
teal mist
It seems the general consensus with Wolverine is 'why would they give him this teammup' the Game Hates Tanks theme continues
lapis aspen
The second I get my bans back
That guy is fucking dead
My tank game has been annhilated by him.
Self healing and more damage. Madness.
teal mist
The fact that they tried calling the jump change a nerf
lapis aspen
the jump change is a nerf, it's just combined with a massive buff
runic apex
wanna know what i find really funny about this season and the last
its been pretty good for sg in wierd indriect ways
last season ironman and storm were usally banned along with bp
her 3 strongest counters
and this season she is a counter to wolverine
oh wow
is this the highest ban rate a charcter has had
runic apex
I agree with the thoughts onf wolverine
i think who ever thought this teamup was agood idea should not be allowed around balance changes ever
this is brig level insane
teal mist
tanking is rough stuff right now but Thing's Big Funny Jump is good
and the grounding folks
runic apex
its even more insane if you have a thing and wolverine duo
do not nerf the team up
just remove
i really like jean grey
raven summit
To make you feel better about Wolverine.
runic apex
jean is so fun
steady flame
To make you feel better about Wolverine.
Missile interception Wolverine
runic apex
teal mist
multi-detonations are so satisfyin
runic apex
im getting better with her i think shes def my second fav at minium
fervent pumice
green junco
Absolute cinema
raven summit
fervent pumice
runic apex
its a fairly decent nerf ive heard
raven summit
So we're getting a Johnny skin.
hexed niche
I gotta start playing again
green junco
fervent pumice
green junco
From 2025 San Diego Comic Con with a blade reveal
It's got all his abilities on there
Though a bit blurry
Looks pretty similar from the leaked tweet
runic apex
i still find it funny that i was disppointed at first about getting jean first
but she ended up being one of my favortes
i was more excited about blade until i played her
lapis aspen
The thing/torch team up is so much fun. Just getting launched into the backlines or at a diver
fervent pumice
raven summit
runic apex
starlord is just sombra tracer now
fervent pumice
lapis aspen
Ah yes what Luna needed, another self healing ability.
The groot team up seems interesting though
runic apex
my hottake apprently is mantis was always good?
im convinced people don't know how to properly play her and thats why people think she is bad
sacred walrus
she's always been solid but outclassed i think, more than bad
runic apex
I think when you need to heal a lot of people at once that arent real low shes one of the better ones
and she has just enough burst she can save people
sacred walrus
similar healing abilities to adam, which is still perfectly functional, but you're not going to see a mantis consistently putting up the same numbers as luna/cloak/sue
runic apex
I usally put out a little less than other healers but my damage is usally higher with usally decent finals on a few key ones
sacred walrus
esp when her ult charges slower than the other supports
runic apex
yeah i have no idea why it does
when i think it should be one of the faster ones
its way weaker
sacred walrus
yeah, its because she heals less overall than the others
runic apex
one thing i think would be a good buff for her is let her wake up hit on a sleep auto crit
sacred walrus
bc her heailng is % based
runic apex
one thing you can do with mantis that helps a lot is give out heals and buffs before people get hurt
since she heals over time
sacred walrus
dunno. i think she'll probably be pretty mid this season as a result of losing rez comp, when it doesnt look like major changes to C&D or luna are coming through
runic apex
one thing ill often do with mantis is if i see someone about to go around a corner thats like a wolverine or something ill throw two orbs on them before they go around
sacred walrus
depends on the healing from groot walls, i suppose - that trailer makes it look pretty good but idk the stats on it
runic apex
even if they are full
sacred walrus
im also just curious the stats/duration on the luna/adam teamup. not something i would say luna really needs per se but might be really cool
runic apex
I never thought about it until now
but wolverine and mantins actully kinda pair well in a comp
hes low enough on max hp that her 55 burst is actully kinda decent his already pretty high damage goes even higher with her, and she can give heal orbs while he dives.
teal mist
'Magneto is the only tank that functions against a good portion of strategies, better nerf him again'
Fella is suffering from success while only doing Fine
CD change does seem pretty important for BP at least
But he's still gonna vanish people
runic apex
also why are they nerfing mantis
5 shots is a lot to remove
and her healing is worse now
i think
yeah i think its worse if they have 300 or less health
teal mist
Healing flower maths out to losing 1.5hp/s, I think?
runic apex
her healing is 55+12.5s+ 2.5% of hp
300 is 20hps same as she was before the changes(not the current ones)
55+(12.5+20)8 i think
227.5 for one orb. on current patch when healing a 300 hp charcter.
next patch would be 60+(11.5+22)8
so its 20 more
total
but still why are they removing 5 shots
whats the point of playing mantis now
doesnt this also make her healing worse as well?
since she won't be able to regen orbs back as fast
lapis aspen
The Warlock ult buff seem good at least
runic apex
its like any time they change mantis its like "heres a tiny micro buff" "Now we remove 25% of your mag, increase your ult cost"
lapis aspen
Thor getting Lighting Realm grounded is a probably the bigger BP buff than his cool down changes
runic apex
meanwhile they give luna insane stuff
teal mist
Luna has been all sorts of favoritism from the start
runic apex
loseing 5 shots on a charcter i consider to already have a long reload is miserable
lapis aspen
Luna isnt really beating the corporate plant allegations. Second self heal ability, just let her be dived gd
runic apex
everything else seems fine or i just don't care
but bp geting basicly unchanged and mantis losing ammo is stupid
Like ive said in the past i think most changes are fine in most patches but theres always the stupid ones that felt like pulled out of a hat
80% of it is well thought out and 20% feels like its made just to troll people.
fervent pumice
runic apex
finally a skin that isnt just red
lapis aspen
Peni wasteland mech could be big. Could be very big
green junco
Oh sick cloak and dagger skin, I saw fanart of the same thing except cloak was a symbiote
I also realized I was one day too late to do the storm full skin event thing, same thing happened for the wolvie one too argh
runic apex
storms can be done in a single day
green junco
I thought the missions required a whole day of waiting
green junco
Oh so since its near the end, everything is free game?
runic apex
yeah
green junco
That's much nicer than the previous one
runic apex
it just will take a lot of matches
green junco
Grind through some AI, ez pz
The wolverine one made me a little annoyed when I realized it just stopped you from going forward
sacred walrus
pro tip - play storm for the storm thing, a lot of the missions require damage+assists and she's easily the best character to farm both on
most of them are either (play 5 games/win 2 games) + (deal damage/get kills) + (get assists/get final hits), and if you don't want to play 2x as many games as you need to, you wanna try to get the ~30 assists / 30k damage you need without having to play extra games just for that segment
green junco
this is awesome
mild pine
ooooooo look at he
sly yew
ya know
i feel like an old man nowdays, maybe its just that i played way too many videogames already
but i liked Marvel Rivals
i think its a good game
but i didn't feel like spending the time on it 
i prefer watching
mild pine
It relies a lot on mechanics that rely on grinding, repeated playing and fear of missing out... it can become tiring quickly and it's going to bite them in the ass if they're not careful
runic apex
i feel like its being fine tuned
like wolverin event was bad
but storm a simlar event is way better
green junco
Alright storm event complete
green junco
like wolverin event was bad
Yeah I got to the last last part and just barely couldn't get the skin itself
sacred walrus
It relies a lot on mechanics that rely on grinding, repeated playing and fear of...
idk i haven't felt like that at all this season, and that's with the shorter season
they already dropped the events being missable / time gated, unless you count the month long timer attached to an event that takes like a week to do
even the weeklies this season can all be done in <=12 games per week, which is ~4h
fervent pumice
sly yew
Didnt we have villains already?
fervent pumice
We do
But the roster is very heavily skewed towards the hero side
Also among the villains only one of them you could say is an actual villain
fervent pumice
raven summit
soft pollen
Bucky skin goes hard.
steady flame
Bird
sacred walrus
Also among the villains only one of them you could say is an actual villain
ultron, right? was just trying to run through my mental list for "who's like, ONLY a villain". ultron has probably been heroic at times but i think he's the outlier in the cast still
sacred walrus
true! somehow i thought about loki but not hela
lapis aspen
I mean? the version of Ultron that you actually play is a reprogramed good guy version of Ultron right?
sacred walrus
i think the version that we're playing as rn is just "doom wants to wipe out the timeline, unlikely allies" type beat instead of purely a good guy, but idk. either way, i was mostly thinking about "who is consistently a villain in previous media", rather than who's a good guy rn
mild pine
Magneto is also... ehhhhh
Like dude is a villain but also... could be worse you know?
I still want MODOK
steady flame
Also they put like a bomb in Ultron's programming to kill him I think?
If he goes off the rails
fervent pumice
Also they put like a bomb in Ultron's programming to kill him I think?
Tony threatened to erase all his memories of Hank Pym if tries to reprogram himself
That's what's currently keeping him under control
green junco
ultron, right? was just trying to run through my mental list for "who's like, ON...
There's a good ultron currently in 616 who is part of the west coast avengers, with another being alive for a bit before he got wrecked by an evil ultron
But in rivals, yeah he's a sort of held mind hostage ultron who is relucantly working with the heroes
sacred walrus
There's a good ultron currently in 616 who is part of the west coast avengers, w...
huh, neat! i'm not much of a comic book fan, i had no clue. glad to know there's at least one good guy ultron still around
timber garnet
Haven't played since Feburary, any big changes I should know about beyond new characters
thinking of hopping back in
teal mist
Nothing like fundamentally changed, character balance, new team ups are pretty big though an' the website has them all laid out p well
timber garnet
gotcha
raven summit
teal mist
:Tc
timber garnet
Hmm
not sure how I feel about this
though is that a reliable source or is this just heresay
raven summit
Luna and Lin Lie (Ironfist) were original characters.
teal mist
The most mixed feelings of all
lapis aspen
I think this isn't NetEase actually announcing anything that's coming, or even announcing their plan to do it. Just that it's an option
Seeing lots of doom posting about it, and it's like if they do add their own OCs
I doubt it's going to be before they add all the golden boys
runic apex
the only charcter i really want is gambit
raven summit
Heroes of the Storm eventually added OCs.
And it was a few years into its life. So I don't think it will be any time soon.
Also it wouldn't be the first Marvel game with ocs.
steady flame
So he's just chilling up on his chair while a bird poops fire on him constantly I guess
violet ridge
I'm not huge on the OCs idea, I like weird obscure characters and the OCs are the ones that will likely replace those weird charactesr. Also I worry a lot of them would just be basic looking gacha waifus
teal mist
/incredulous squinting at Luna
violet ridge
I mean she was a OC for another mobile game and is in here because one of the project leads ended up leading rivals and she's his pet character
raven summit
So is this game's Ironfist.
runic apex
ironfist actully hasnt been doing to well for a while
raven summit
I do find the "gacha waifu" sentiment a tad irksome. I understand where it comes from and agree to an extent, but I also find it really reductive.
green junco
Luna Snow is from NetMarble's Future Fight 2018 and showed up Agents of Atlas in 2019.
Lin Lei is a NetEase creation with a partnership with Marvel, where both him and Aero were made to expand their China and East Asia audience, and they were in a manhua in 2017 and then appeared in Agents of Atlas in 2019 with Luna as Sword Master. He became Iron Fist in 2022
fervent pumice
fervent pumice
sacred walrus
huh. i like it
violet ridge
I realize I meant to get peach momoko peni, is it still available?
violet ridge
is it battlepass?
sacred walrus
no, it was store purchase - the matching spiderman skin was the battlepass one
https://rivalskins.com/item/976/peni-parker-costume-yatsukahagi/ rivalskins is pretty good about collecting bundles/etc., fwiw - i've used it before to check what certain skins are from
sacred walrus
such is life. i think most of the skins they've put out recently have been pretty cool, though i'm not personally a fan of the phoenix/symbiote aesthetic ones
*out of the skins that are obviously "high tier" skins, i'm not talking about white panther
runic apex
I mainly play SG,Jean,Scarlet, and Mantis
Scarlet uses that black skins, and mantis uses the GOTG skin
sacred walrus
the squirrel girl qilin one is great, and mantis also has some real bangers - i like green mantis, jade mantis, and the s0 mantis though i know that one's locked/limited now. the free flora one is cool too
violet ridge
that was for a different marvel game right?
runic apex
yeah
runic apex
thats a good design for him
wet trout
Daredevil and Angela
runic apex
i always felt that daredevil felt very flat in terms of design
like it needed some greebles
wet trout
( Angela is Thor's Sister, another asgardian
ALSO Angela is a lesbian , and is dating a trans woman
😄 already lovely
supple heron
LET'S GOOOOO
fervent pumice
runic apex
they nerfing squirrel girl that sucks
I don't know how you nerf her and her still be viable
if they touch her damage at all she becomes an instant f tier charcter.
timber garnet
if they touch her damage at all she becomes an instant f tier charcter.
do you play any other character?
runic apex
I do
But still SG is not performing well she does not need a nerf
ptu it this way, if she loses say 3 damage on direct hits she instantly becomes a f tier
Currently she has a single combo she can use against 250 charcters which is root(35) then two acorn shots(110+110) which brings it up to 255
just enough to get a kill if there isnt any healing.
The other thing this really angers me about this is a lot of people just outright lie about SG ive seen people say she does 150 damgge that her shots bounce too much (they can only bounce once in 90% of cases)
teal mist
Having played some other pvp stuff lately I'll admit this games style of "your dps is basically racing against heals" is kind of tiring
It's allllll big murder ball teamfights
runic apex
her highest winrate is 48% in plat with her going down to like 44% in cele
Hopefully its just them hitting the ammo back down to 10
wet trout
A female character that has muscles in this game?
and shes a lesbian
....and dating a trans woman
a fact that i WONT EVER NOT MENTION
like its canon
wet trout
i mean yeah im hoping they will
but its like literally a big part of her story
Sera was an Archnonite ( all male warriors of asgard ) , and Angela helped her find her true form
they also ran away together
green junco
ANGELA LETS FUCKING GOOOO
She's sick af
I was thinking Mr daredevil would pop up here with the comic showing of the demon dude over Hela in the last panel of the gallery for season 3
Based on reddit, Angela is looking to be taller than Emma, at the 6'6-6'10" range
wanton salmon
hope they dont give daredevil magic energy powers like the trailer
but angela was fun even back in spawn and her whole story of moving as a character is hilarous
green junco
hope they dont give daredevil magic energy powers like the trailer
I think it's Daredevil being possessed with The Beast, which has happened in the comics. I'm going to guess he won't be so he can be a hero in the roster but can't say for certain, but it did happen to Hela even if she's a villain in the game lore
wanton salmon
i think thats bad so i hope its just his appearance. even them its like if they made "malice-sue" the main version of invisible woman instead of a skin.
I care about having particular heroes both because i like those heroes "main line" appearance and nature and for the fantasy of fighting with that heroes powerset they use in the comics
beast daredevil also had like super strength and regeneration and future sight
that should be a different character called "the beast" because for daredevil i care about the daredevil normal stuff
kung fu and boxing martial arts and escrima sticks amd ricocheting thrown weapons and parkour and grappling hooks and sonar sense and fast reactions. its not like hes a limited character
honestly, thats why i kind of expected them to add Elektra-Daredevil isntead
because she is more marketable being a hot lady, since neither of them have flashey powers, and her modern look is way more "marvel rivals" than most of matts daredevil looks
green junco
i think thats bad so i hope its just his appearance. even them its like if they ...
I don't think he will keep it for the season after this when he becomes playable, but he's playing the bad guy for this season as we get Angela first
So the Beast taking over is a great maguffin to have him fuck shit up with the Hand probably
wanton salmon
Oh sure, in the story its whatever they want to do.
But if they want to give him flashy superpowers or make him more marketable, they have other options, like when Danny Rand was daredevil, or hot lady Elektra daredevil.
I have been excited for daredevil because there is a lot you can do with his powers.
He can be a dive character with his parkour/frerunning/grappling hook movement, he can be tanky with auto-dodges, he can be a melee powerhouse like a second iron fist, he can be a ranged character with his ricocheting perfect aimed billy club escrima sticks, he could even be a hybrid-dps-strategist using his sonar sense to mark enemies and reveal enemy health/armour/ult charge to team-mates.
He could even have abilities to autoamtically know if someone is aiming at him and from where as he has his sonar sense, pair that with a dodge move and he can be an anti sniper.
Or they could use his movement to make him an anti-flyer character, locking on to fliers and swinging up to force ranged fliers to engage in melee, which is something we need more of as we get more fliers.
green junco
We shall see
wet trout
hope they dont give daredevil magic energy powers like the trailer
so eres what i learned
this is matt murdoc, but hes literally possessed by Dizang
timber garnet
I mean thats Google AI, it could just be saying shit
wet trout
I mean thats Google AI, it could just be saying shit
true
( that being said, Dizing is not a marvel character , atleast not one mentioned before
violet ridge
checking the marvel wiki gets me nothing
so probably possesed but we don't know yet
wet trout
violet ridge
...matt doing that feels very in character
green junco
I thought it was Krahllak which is also a demon that possesses Matt at one point
But some datamined quotes do refer to Matt as Dizang
And reading nowhere to run, the last page of the gallery of this season, talks about it being a title given to him from the people of the Eighth city, with his dialogue being a lot like Matt, with lots of christian allegories since his super Catholic
green junco
Also "The Devil doesn't kneel for False Angels" goes so hard
hexed niche
I am barking like a dog
green junco
They really buffed her up for Rivals which is par for the course tbh
But sick nonetheless
green junco
Also with the Daredevil super powered discussion earlier, Rivals has given street level characters power ups so they can in-lore match up with the big hitters, like Winter Soldier and his hydra arm or Punisher getting the super soldier serum. So him having some K'un-Lun dragon powers or even a form of the beast would fit that bill, and would play into the heaven or hell type thing they're doing with this next season
Daredevil ult being some kind of Dragon Install (haha get it, Shou-Lao) could be cool
soft pollen
Looks like it will be awful to play against.
sacred walrus
Looks like it will be awful to play against.
i think it'll be fine, she's got 600 hp, her shield is front-facing, and even though it recharges decently fast (looks like ~10 seconds from broken to full again?) i have a feeling it's gonna be closer to an invis shield than strange or cap
she looks pretty good, but i have a feeling she's going to be a little stuck in "dive tank hell" aka "you will get no value without a super coordinated team, unless you're REALLY good at her" - same as venom rn, but with negative survivability compared
runic apex
Ok i just just a few days ago
Emma Frost
The White Queen's control and survivability are getting a little less unbreakable!
suggesting that 2nd change
teal mist
That Loki change is oof
runic apex
to make her less oprppsive againswt tanks
teal mist
Also seems they've done that to SG
runic apex
Squirrel Girl
Doreen is less of a menace from afar.
also her combo is still alive
teal mist
Squirrel Blockade damage keeps the combo
runic apex
good
teal mist
Tank life has been tough for a while now I understand changing
runic apex
tanks actully i think are in a good state mainly its just emma
emma was a tank that murdered other tanks
her doing less build up against shields is basicly a nerf that only targets tanks
Scarlet i still think what she needs is
another hex botl charge
teal mist
The Magik buffs are a surprise
runic apex
i think they should change her charge hitbox
teal mist
Oh compensation for teamup
runic apex
its just too awkard
runic apex
also im very glad they did make scarlet's ult unsurvivable
teal mist
Make her more buff thusly more bigger hitbox
runic apex
that was kinda wierd that it was
teal mist
Yeah watching Thing just walk off Cosmic Obliteration felt silly
runic apex
groot could too
Mantis gets a little more slippery.
its not that noticable most of the time after they slowed it
lapis aspen
Enemies caught in Peni's webs are in for a stickier situation, and her Ultimate Ability just got slightly more threatening!
This is objectively gonna maker Penis ult more usable, but I doubt it'll make it good
Maybe the slows better than I'm giving it credit for though
runic apex
they should just remove the knock up
teal mist
just give 'er a new ult
runic apex
it would actully be beffer if it was removed or turned into knockback
teal mist
I don't wanna say like 'they ran out of ideas for it' but it truly feels that way
runic apex
also why did they increase sg's cooldown from 10 to 15
lapis aspen
I think turning the knock up attack into a like, spell effect of damage around her would be better
Nothing extreme, but enough that in combination with drones and your team it can get kills. With the main part of it being expanding your web area and producing drones
runic apex
after lowering from 12 to 10
green junco
"Thoughts and prayers" as a kill line is insane lmao
Netease knows how to make people mald
runic apex
angela?
fervent pumice
Yes she says it in her trailer
green junco
Yeah it's a line of hers
fervent pumice
runic apex
took me a second to realize that was moonknight
sacred walrus
scarlet witch changes seem good. she was like, really bad without team up before. hopefully this makes it less painful even if shes not directly better
runic apex
I think she needs another hex bolt charge
main parcel
Little late to the party, how come nobody told me Angela yoinked Jarvan IV's ult?
Real shame that I doubt we'll be able to recreate this masterpiece, though.
green junco
Little late to the party, how come nobody told me Angela yoinked Jarvan IV's ult...
Its more like Diana's ult but if it was to a spear rather than yourself, though Angela dives into there to plant the spear and bind the people around the spear
There's no terrain
main parcel
I'll be honest, the last time I play LoL, Wukong was the new hotness. So I'm just going to take your word on that.
lapis aspen
took me a second to realize that was moonknight
I think it's probably a Peni skin
fervent pumice
I think it's probably a Peni skin
It's Moonknight
fervent pumice
lapis aspen
That grim lady skin looks like it might be neat
I wonder if Clone rumbles going to come back exactly the same or if they're going to find someway to make it shorter
steady flame
Ben Grimm getting two swimsuits I guess?
green junco
the thing needs more thong
main parcel
FRANK GOT HIS SKULL THONG LET'S GOOOOOO
green junco
Battle pass skins
Trial of Magneto was not on my bingo card but I'm happy it's there
Also hell yeah outlaw star Lord and classic cap
runic apex
is it wierd to think that the strange one i think is the worst skin so far
runic apex
the starlord outfit is so good
steady flame
Oh is the Loki one another Phoenix thing then? It looks neat
sacred walrus
is it wierd to think that the strange one i think is the worst skin so far
why tf is he so blue wtf
like that's "we dipped him in blue paint, clothes and all" levels of blue
steady flame
Placing Dr. Strange into the blueberry slushie machine
lapis aspen
Battle pass skins
Steven Strange:
green junco
Angela mentions her wife
Angela in the comics has fought her way through Hel and deposed Hela to become the queen of Hel because Sera was held in her domain after she died by Hela
So it's a reference to that
That and Angela never liked her sister
main parcel
Battle pass skins
Dr. Strange looking like he got trapped in a maze by Shelly Duvall
green junco
Angela mentions her wife
(the reason why this is great is that Angela is gay and Sera is trans, they have a good relationship in the comics)
green junco
Season 5 lore scrawl about Daredevil and Angela
The tldr being that this is another universe on the edge of an apocalypse held together by K'un Lun and Wanda's chaos magic. Daredevil at some went to Hell to save his friends (The Red Fist Saga) and made a vow with Dizeng to clean out the Eighth City and shepard the suffering. Angela wants to guard her sister in K'un Lun, leaving her post in Asgard to do so, and her sister was adopted by Lin Lie, Iron Fist
Imo fire writing which is still on par with previous seasons
raven summit
@green junco Okay, so there's a bit at the end of the trailer here with Old Man Hawkeye. ||He shots a aying card in half. Is that a Bulleye hint or could it be Gambit?||
https://youtu.be/D85112C9_O0?si=dcfarF3g8qKWIPXo
fervent pumice
<@424372332656590859> Okay, so there's a bit at the end of the trailer here with...
It's a Bullseye reference
From Old Man Hawkeye
green junco
<@424372332656590859> Okay, so there's a bit at the end of the trailer here with...
Yeah what DD said
green junco
<@424372332656590859> Okay, so there's a bit at the end of the trailer here with...
(CW A little gore) The panel reference
green junco
I'm sure he's coming eventually, but this is an Old Man Hawkeye reference
He's very popular
runic apex
he was the first marvel charcter I liked as a kid and him being from lousiana (half my family is from lousiana) was def a factor in that.
green junco
he was the first marvel charcter I liked as a kid and him being from lousiana (h...
Some leaked entry for the last gallery card for the upcoming season explicitly reference rogue and gambit so it may be sooner than you think @raven summit
"And if you play your cards right and they don't drain every last bit of your life force"
runic apex
i really hope i enjoy gambit
green junco
I said the wrong thing, this is the text with the last gallery card for the upcoming season
So the text I pinged with is what's with this last gallery card which usually reference what's coming next
At least after the daredevil season after the upcoming one
I like Rogue and Gambit a lot so if they show up as playable characters, that would be awesome
Nightcrawler would be my go-to playable xmen myself
green junco
Old Man Hawkeye is also the first blind character in the game, quality ragebait
violet ridge
The rumours are rogue strat and gambit duel next season
runic apex
i hope so
green junco
Some leaked entry for the last gallery card for the upcoming season explicitly r...
@violet ridge Yeah they very explicitly reference it in the last gallery text leaked for the next season
"As one who has hosted many tournaments in my day, I do hope that you have plans to keep these heroes in line should they decide to deviate from teh rules. They have a tendency to do so. And if you play your cards right and they don't drain every last bit of your life force, I might make an appearance at your next tournament myself."
green junco
Elsa Bloodstone was found in the game files, maybe might be added for next year's Halloween season. She replaced the Paste Pot Pete slot in the game files
steady flame
Who is that?
runic apex
one of jeff's followers
green junco
Who is that?
Occult Treasure Hunter/Monster Hunter with a gem (the Bloodstone) that gives her energy projection and superhuman strength/speed/healing/durability
Also, I wish the Trial of Magneto skin mvp was him taking the board to space but the one they have isn't bad
The Blue Strange is an astral projection of himself, thats about it
Also the Moonknight Mech skin is definitly a Pacific Rim reference (the episode of What If... it's from is also a pacific rim basically)
Also happy to see Dark Phoenix and Old Man Hawkeye, happy to see comic book references 🙏
They even got the Uncanny X-Men and the trial of magneto cover reference too with the emotes
steady flame
Oh a character with a shotgun aside from Punisher would be fun as a shotgun enjoyer in games.
green junco
Yeah she uses uzis, shotguns, and handguns
violet ridge
Also she loves shotguns and is jack Russel’s (werewolf by night) amicable ex in the ‘we love each other but it always falls apart and we’re mature about it’
They both have opposite but unhealthy ways of dealing with trauma is a big part of why it’s on and off
https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/elsa-bloodstone-werewolf-by-night-love-1.jpeg?q=50&fit=crop&w=360&dpr=1.5
I do love this comic
green junco
Yeah it's fun
violet ridge
It’s werewolf by night 2023 I think
lapis aspen
Free Fight mode seems like itd be really fun if whenever one side started losing half their team didnt leave
raven summit
I thought that was Dark Beast ngl.
violet ridge
nah, the comic is blakc and white except for elsa
trying to emulate old horror movies
runic apex
reminds me of ashe
sacred walrus
i was not expecting this season to keep adding wild west skins but I'm here for it
steady flame
Oh it IS. And I just unlocked the Queen in Black one
I've been saving up blue rocks so maybe I'll get it instead of Punisher in his Skull Thong
fervent pumice
raven summit
fervent pumice
runic apex
is it just me or is it wierd to say new costume for when you add a new charcter to the game
soft pollen
Yeah but money though.
steady flame
Aww pumpkin Jeff
lapis aspen
The thing about reworking support ults is that you need to rework every ult pretty much if you do that. As dps ults are built around the idea of there being support ults
still needs to happen but would be probably lots of work
twilit belfry
Does Mags ult still not autocast?
sacred walrus
no? do you mean at the end of the duration?
twilit belfry
no? do you mean at the end of the duration?
I mean like when the thing is filled up
Instead of exploding
sacred walrus
it's supposed to explode when it takes above its max
as a counter to it from other players
runic apex
daredevil is strange to actully play
fervent pumice
steady flame
Zombee
soft pollen
soft pollen
Maybe. Unless this season is going to be extra long with 3 releases.
runic apex
3? i don't think theres been any rumors of a third char
runic apex
yeah
soft pollen
There's another character tease in the trailer unless they're already slotting them for Season 6.
runic apex
if you mean cyclops
we have seen several other charcters
in other things too
like thats 100% probally a teaser for cyclops but i don't think he will be this season
prettymuch every char people knew ahead of time to a degree, but I think theres nothing on cyclops
fervent pumice
Mixed them up lol
But yea I don't think there will be a surprise 3rd reveal this season
lapis aspen
Well the whole 3rd character thing came from a post that was like "it'd be cool if there was a 3rd character from the anniversary"
Which turned into people taking any scrap possible to confirm who will now get mad because they made something up.
raven summit
teal mist
Another sort of "so the guy that makes matter explode is a healer" energy
teal mist
A non healer strategist is basically unplayable
As it means your team won't pick more strategists
runic apex
he seems more of a buffer debuffer kinda strat
with some healing
honest l I just hope i enjoy him
teal mist
Same just like.. the healer meta makes this stuff hard to swing
Well not meta exactly just.. demand
Idk
runic apex
I don' think hulk needed buffs
WAIT THEY BUFF WOLVERINE AND SPIDERMAN?
but not sg
?
teal mist
Wolvie and Spidey... another season not for me
runic apex
spidye also doesnt not need buffs
wolvie honestly did need them tbh
they hit him too hard
they should just revert him and remove the team up
teal mist
oh did they overnerf as response to the Phoenix thing
runic apex
yeah
teal mist
That's so shortsighted
teal mist
I still think Spidey needs a damn rework
runic apex
i think he is still strong its just a lot of people are bad with him
teal mist
There's no way to make him fun to fight
runic apex
they only use the one combo
teal mist
Nono I mean just
teal mist
Like mechanically conceptually a problem yeah
teal mist
He made a friend stop playing lmao
It was so unfun to Heal into a spidey or bp opponent
runic apex
hes not fun to fight with againt, and almost every one who mains him are the most toxic slur slinging players ive seen
teal mist
Yeaaahp
runic apex
same with bp
teal mist
BP i usually get Completely Silent People
Playing their own game and either horrid at it or 34x0
runic apex
i feel like i get more passive agressive toxciity with bp
usally against the other team
teal mist
They take the 'high difficulty' as like Saiyan Pride
It makes them intensely fun to counterpick tbh
runic apex
yeah they arent as diffcult as they think
most spidermen are so garbage that they only know the combo so ive started using it as bait
raven summit
Hm, good to know.
