#Mahvel Rivals baby

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severe zephyr
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wow I didn't know red skull was that good in the middle tiers

lapis aspen
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Platinum still has the "Swap from X character stuff". I've been told to switch off every tank at this point pretty much

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and I have little choice not to because if I don't switch to Magneto my team will go crazy for zero reason

vast geyser
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See if I hear shit like that I typically just. Mute my team

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Maybe I get annoyed when some dude feeds 8 deaths on Panther because they've had a Namor and Luna combo all game but I care about playing my own character more than I care about my funny internet points

lapis aspen
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I just want to be able to get into a comp level where I can ban bucky and never play against him again

green junco
steady flame
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Magneto abolishing gender

mild pine
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I feel like moon knight would honestly respond more with random esoterica like "being non-binary makes you immune to most old warlock curses you know? They were the incels of medieval times."

celest wadi
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That or "They/Them, but in a this is three people kind of way"

green junco
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They them but there's three bitches in his head kinda way

twilit belfry
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More than three mfers from time to time

glass pollen
supple heron
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reinstall the game and get this first game

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we’re so back

mild pine
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hellyeah

runic apex
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im working on getting knight with every charcter

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im working on cap

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so far cap is my least favorite

sand oracle
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I loooove cap

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he's got some similar combos to magic just less good with the upside of being a tank

runic apex
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does he?

runic apex
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i will say at least playing cap has forced me to get good at finding healthpacks

green junco
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I love cap

runic apex
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I did manage one really good round

lapis aspen
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I love Cap, he's not the best at killing but just walking up to a healer and having them shoot you is such a funny way to generate value

sly yew
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I was playing squirrel girl this one time and this cap player kept coming for me

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It was terrifying

supple heron
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heheh

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cap is a diver that is a tank, he's guerilla tactics

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My main is thor so I do like giving them a boost

twilit belfry
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I had a vision:
Man-Thing

supple heron
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ooooooh

violet ridge
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man thing would be fun

sly yew
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thing was already taken so it had to add MAN to its name

runic apex
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oh btw i found another way to bounce shots as SG

runic apex
supple heron
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bruh, what

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plays punisher

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just click on people

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get play of the game

runic apex
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i find punsiher boring

supple heron
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yeeeee

teal mist
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I'll give him the sticker for 'more interesting than Soldier 76' but he's still Guns Man at the end of the day

runic apex
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I am thinking about learning witch as a 2nd dps to really learn

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theres 2 comps i really struggle as with SG

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double flier and heavy dive

sacred walrus
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learn namor instead

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witch doesn't do well into either, she has no survivability into dive comps

runic apex
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i know namor gets banned a lot, and his deployables don't feel right to me a lot of the time its very reilent on the enemy not attacking them

sacred walrus
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she's OK into fliers but a good storm will hit e & then right click you and you're forced to back out

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namor is like, 3rd-4th most banned, mostly bc he's actually good. witch is a throw pick w/o magneto generally

runic apex
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I usally have pretty good rounds with witch in qp more often than namor

sacred walrus
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she's easy to use well, but once you climb witch ends up getting farmed by most of the common dps picks - like punisher+bucky+rocket comps. and her ult is a lot less consistent than most other dps ults

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hela is another strong one you can probably pick. not banned very often, farms fliers hard

cunning nacelle
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And Namor has a higher skill floor then Scarlet Witch, for sure

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Positioning matters a ton more on him

teal mist
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Namor apparently has like a 38% win rate into dive but I think it's all the Fear Switching in teams already getting rolled

runic apex
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Ive had some really good rounds with namor, but its more of constancy, and one thing about witch is i feel like i can def do more wild thigns with her than namor

teal mist
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But I will say BP kind of doesn't care he exists

runic apex
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i do think namor is a bit overrated against dive

teal mist
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Damage happens too fast and a bit too tanky for the turrets to matter

runic apex
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if the map is really small, or the dive are ranged he doesnt do as well

teal mist
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New Iron Fist fears him less too

sacred walrus
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who are you calling dive here

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there's a difference between spider/iron fist hardcore dive and like, a really good/aggressive namor or bucky

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namor is good bc he invalidates spider/iron fist really hard, esp with luna team up

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magik as well, since your r2 -> 2 turret hits is half her hp instantly

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*m2

teal mist
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As an Iron Fist fan I'd rather fight a dozen Namors than one bucky

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He's just sort of.. Annoying To Have

sacred walrus
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what rank are you? no hate but

teal mist
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I don't play ranked :p sorry

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But also if you're trying to say WS is worse anti dive you're crazy

runic apex
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im more worried about fliers than dive most of the time

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i can handle some dive as SG just fine

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its when its like really dive heavy like spiderman,bp,venom,thor

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preivous wekeend dive was not an issue it was the ironmen mainly

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dispite having both a moonknight and a hawkeye somehow me as SG was the one getting most of the ironman kills

teal mist
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Fliers can kind of dodge MK projectiles pretty well if they have space

runic apex
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ours was badddd so was the hawkeye

teal mist
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There's like juuust enough delay that wiggling with intent can be ruinous

sacred walrus
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mostly bc like, bucky doesn't work well protecting backline

teal mist
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Is this like assuming the Namor and Luna are always together and best friends

sacred walrus
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nah

runic apex
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put it this way my elims solo and last kills were more than both of the other dps combinde as well as my deaths being less than either

sacred walrus
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but bucky's goal is to reposition/yank enemy tanks so they get shredded, and just deal nutso damage generally speaking

teal mist
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Because what does Namor actually do to stop Invisible Woman getting kicked to death

runic apex
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know what buff i think would be really good for witch

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her stun orb

sacred walrus
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he's not in position to dome a spiderman/bp, and a good spider/bp doesnt stick around long enough for him to get back to help healers

runic apex
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its too slow

sacred walrus
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at the end of the day though, unless you're at diamond/gm & above the picks mean very little. its entirely personal skill w/ the hero until there

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(and below plat, it's entirely "which team has more smurfs")

teal mist
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What kind of buckwild flanks are your Soldiers pulling that they can't turn and punch/grab someone diving their team what

sacred walrus
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a good spider/bp is in & out within around 3-4 seconds tops

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the time it takes for a comm to bucky so they can try to spin around & land the hook is just, not going to happen unless you're absolutely insane w/ him

teal mist
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And Namor does nothing in that time frame unless he's already got turrets out and lands the right click

sacred walrus
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namor will 100% always have turrets out at any given time

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like, there will never be a moment where you're not getting rolled where namor doesn't have at least one turret

teal mist
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OK so I take 36 damage as Invisible Woman goes down

sacred walrus
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but broadly, namor turrets prevent the spider from getting there in the first place

teal mist
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And the auto shots fill up my block very nicely

sacred walrus
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they're not going to one-tap the spiderman as he's diving you

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but your turrets spend around 75% of the time amped up, which is more than enough to deal 60-70 to a spiderman or bp trying to get in, enough to make them actually tappable by your healers or smth

teal mist
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I guess

sacred walrus
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again though like. none of this applies until everybody on the team is more or less equally good at their hero

teal mist
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In a vacuum

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And also just for Spidermans fragile ass

runic apex
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wanna know one thing that is fun as SG

teal mist
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I'll give him an asterisk for the web boy

runic apex
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rooting ironman and hitting him as he falls

teal mist
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Maybe my perspective is different because I play the tankier dives, I don't mean to be like 'YOU ARE WRONG' just have very different encounters with these folks

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Peni and WS turn the gameplan off if they decide to pay attention

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Namor makes it feel like you're diving but also its kind of.. bad weather for it

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A mild groan and a shrug and a carrying on

runic apex
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idk what is it but maybe its because i have a alot of dive expeince from genji and SG that i just do really well with witch

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i wouldn't dive with namor

teal mist
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Witch is just so survivable if she wants to be

runic apex
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a lot of people just go into mist form and stay in it to run away

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barely anyone uses it like a parry

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or a quick dodge

teal mist
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God I wish Magik's invuln was that quick

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Witch and Starlord got that privilege i-frame

runic apex
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i was about to say ive legit quick misted magik's dash then unmisted and killed them right after

sacred walrus
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lol

runic apex
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how so?

sacred walrus
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more people use it for pure invuln vs. movement or running away in high elo

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if u want to get better at witch my recommendation is to ping for mag teamup semi often

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since if you rank that'll be what you play it with probably

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the teamup is crazy good

runic apex
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using as a quick dodge has done a lot for me

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most people don't expect you to one of their stronger attacks then unmist right after

sacred walrus
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its super clutch when u can learn the timings for most ults via audio cue

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like roughly how long to wait after hearing the voiceline to dismiss so you can ignore jeff ult or w/e

runic apex
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i actully did kinda good as hulk on first go

lapis aspen
runic apex
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I made a spiderman lord rage as witch

teal mist
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Funnily enough the ability to grab and threeshot a tank also works on things that have less health than that

lapis aspen
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Yeah bad Spiderman players hate if you're even slightly good at Witch

runic apex
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he solo ulted me 3 times and didnt kill me in any of those 3 times

lapis aspen
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Because they think the auto aim is 'bullshit' and 'lowskill', as they continually walk into every time never getting a kill

teal mist
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Followup if the combo goes awry seems to be the difference for spider men

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Some of them just can't do anything else

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Or know to time it

runic apex
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one time he even solo ulted for the bonus health and i still killed him before he picked up the health pack

teal mist
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witch is maybe one of the worst chars to solo ult omg

runic apex
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we lost and i admit maybe i didnt do super good but i did shutdown spiderman, but i think part of it is also i really angered their team, my guess is they were agroup

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they focused me really harrd

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note this was their mantis. whom i don't remember kiling that often

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oh

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they were the adam i kept killing in the early parts

lapis aspen
# runic apex

I enjoy that assumedly that Punisher just chose to, stay still in the face of Grenades falling on their head

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instead of say, moving away from that

runic apex
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that was comp too btw

vast geyser
runic apex
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bucky and sg are both kinda simlar to each other on dps divers if they get their stun the diver is dead, but they lack a constant pressure charcters like witch

sacred walrus
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thor too

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cap i'll be honest, i'm hit or miss on w/ bucky - his fucking shield vs. my attempts to hook :(

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but killing him normally, that's more doable

vast geyser
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I tend to be pretty stubborn with my picks but one that that does get me to swap is if there is a good Bucky and I am playing Venom. Just ruins my fun

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I keep seeing teammates ban him recently now though

sacred walrus
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he's easily my 2nd most banned hero i think (like in my games, not my picks)

vast geyser
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I don't really have a main so I just

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Ban the first person someone suggests

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The only thing I will mald over is if I am like, the main tank and there is a wolverine that slipped through the ban phase that keeps putting me in a van and shipping me off to sell my organs

green junco
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I skimmed some of the namor talk earlier, part of using namor is landing his shots, especially right clicks since it agros and powers up your turrets

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In a team fight, you can make quick work of a lot of people, or in a choke if you position yourself correctly

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One of the biggest things I think in dealing with dive is comms really. Being able to go "BP behind us" and have people turn around helps, or even pinging where the annoying iron man is because he's using some sky cover or something

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Hitscan is great for fliers too, along with people with a lot of zoning like namor

vast geyser
runic apex
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both adam and hulk are wierd for me in that first time i played them was aweful, but the 2nd time kinda clicked(then again it was months later)

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i didn't even know that hulk's shield worked on allies too

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i never see hulk really use it that much in that way

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and its so short i didn't notice it consinosly

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or at least i thought it was a sorta aim at ally and you and hulk get it

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not just aoe give

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i managed to use it once to counter ironman ult

sand oracle
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It's a pretty versatile ability

runic apex
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I want to try to get knight with everyone at some point

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so i have at least basic knowlage of how they work and play

green junco
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I love Adam warlock

runic apex
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i still think im a pretty bad tank but ive gotten better at playing support

violet ridge
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Adam is my go to healer

runic apex
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i think in terms of healing adam is the worst, but he does have the most reliable weapon as well as both of his ablities being good at countering ults

lapis aspen
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it depends on what healing you want

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Adam doesnt have a constant output of healing but his burst makes up for it. Like the only other healer which can really bring you up as fast is Jeff with a big bubble barrage

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his link up spread damage is also crazy

mild pine
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I love adam as a healer, if you can chain folk he can heal half the team instantly with a single cast of E

runic apex
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yeah he is a good at burst healing, but i mean if you just want raw healing power and nothing else jeff and rocket are the best, while id put adam at the lowest end

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rocket is the only time ive seen solo healing work

lapis aspen
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I've solo healed as Jeff before

runic apex
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jeff i could see working

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even more so if your group isvery grounded so you can hit multiable people at once easily

lapis aspen
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What's really good about Jeff as a solo healer, is you can leave orbs around which means even when you're dead you're healing
And his beam has pierce for healing

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but the only reason I've done well solo healing is because the enemy teams very bad. Like, all of the supply lines are going through one point and they just don't take it out

mild pine
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Jeff is also vulnerable to being scared off or just killed with the size of that head hitbox, while adam has long range, disjointed burst heals and can hold their own really well. Plus the free revive. It just makes Adam very reliable.

runic apex
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I think rocket is my favorite support to have on my team while adam(due to player skill more than adam) and jeff are my least favorites

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there are so many adams that will just drop a revive in the middle of the open

lapis aspen
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as Jeff you can't be afraid, you have to enter a blood rage

mild pine
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Oh no doubt, and I've even been killed by a few jeffs

lapis aspen
runic apex
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on the flipside rocket never has to focus on healing you when he can just throw orbs everywhere and if your a shield tank you can really abuse with with your shield

lapis aspen
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I don't play shield tank much because I find it pretty boring

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Feels like I'm just standing getting shot

sly yew
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sorry, i thought that fit with what Ddraig said vicksyLUL

violet ridge
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jeff is really hard to kill with his ground dive though, heals him and gives him mobility while making him a very small target

lapis aspen
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He can also combine it with an orb directly into himself for even more speed and burst healing

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Its why DPS Jeffs are so annoying, even if they don't kill you they take up so much time

sand oracle
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it's quite funny

sacred walrus
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like the reason luna is the best support (it's not close) is not because her normal healing output is that cracked, but bc her ult is pretty much indisputably the best support ult - its just so much longer than either invis/c&d

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rocket and adam both have crazy good ults and great healers, they're just both w/o the funny immortality button

runic apex
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I think part of is i mainly play SG when im playing comp so rocket is her best healer to work with

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even more so when you got soneone who knows how to bounce their shots into allies

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While i do think "do not die" ults are good i don't sucribe to them being the always best support ult mindset some have.

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a good rocket player will know a good moment to put down the ult or call it out

sacred walrus
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its not about being the best ult to combo with or not

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its about like, not having a good answer to a luna ult unless you have another similar ult, or you have the 1-2 ults that can guaranteed shut it down

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theres a couple different dps ults that can kill luna through her ult, like MK or punisher (even a hawkeye headshot w/o ult can do it if you strip shield first). mag ult will kill pretty consistently but takes a bit to learn how to aim (not that hard)

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but w/o a good answer locked & loaded, its really hard to make progress into teams that can cycle support ults effectively, which is why the meta revolves a lot around them

runic apex
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thats a big part of the reason i usally like SG, they can't ult if i kill them first.

sacred walrus
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end of the day the 2 things that matter most are timers, and not taking 5v6 / 4v6 if you can avoid it. being able to ult to stall out ults/abilities/etc., including waiting for a teammate to get back sometimes (if it's currently 4v6 or smth) is gonna outpace any amount of "we ulted and killed 4 people who were already at their spawn"

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yeah sg spam is crazy good into chokes. hell on earth is squirrel girl spamming down the choke on klyntar pre-point

runic apex
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sg spam is overrated

sacred walrus
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its not gonna confirm kills but its super dangerous to walk in LoS as a healer if theres constant bouncing damage

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all it takes is a single stun or good hit to force you to back up

runic apex
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its better to aim over enemies or hit back walls to hit supports than to just randomly fire at the frontline unless your rooting a speicifc target to burst down with your team

sacred walrus
runic apex
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sadly thats what most people do

sacred walrus
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i think 95% of the time you're firing at the supports no matter the context anyway

runic apex
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i think ive seen maybe 2 other SG's that do more than just fire from the backline

sacred walrus
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(obviously like - im not saying "try to hit the support 20 meters away when there's a punisher ult walking forward towards you")

runic apex
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do you ever sacrifice yourself to stop a punisher ult from doing much by getting behind them forcing them to turn around

sacred walrus
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sometimes but mostly its more worth it to shoot the punisher instead

runic apex
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i don't really plan for it but its more if im im on their side and they are being healed i kinda just hope to distract him long enoough to waste too much of his juice

sacred walrus
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unless they're being healed actively and they're not going to die, but even then its more important to be regrouped after it ends or w/e

runic apex
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ive had afew times where i died but he didn't land a single hit on my team mates

sacred walrus
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like - a punisher ult is checked by the existence of shield tanks (sometimes), and hard countered by the existence of walls & the iq of the punisher player

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if they're smart, they're aiming for what gets the most impact vs. the most kills, so if that means they shred the hulk or thing that means they shred them. supports generally are smart enough to find a wall to hide (if possible) when they hear "judge, jury, executioner"

runic apex
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yeah thats generally the 2nd best strat

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first being just kill them fast

sacred walrus
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if they're not smart, a lot of punishers will vastly overestimate how deadly they are - they get a bit of aimlock but it's not like a starlord ult, so it's often super easy to just. kill them immediately from a direction they're not looking at

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lol

runic apex
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usally what happens when i go full distraction mode is they notice me before i can kill them or they get healed

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i once had a hela ult was their entire ult on me

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while failling to notice both supports were out on the open as well

sacred walrus
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shes got wallhacks in ult and still can't look around smh

runic apex
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i wish there was an sg skin i liked

sly yew
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same

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i dont play the game

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but still

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that could convince me

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squirrel girl is cool

runic apex
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shes good but most people play her wrong

green junco
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If I see a luna ult go off, I just make a wide berth and target people who straggle out of her healing

runic apex
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thats what i do

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if im playing SG i try to root people outside of it, or as invisable woman push people out of it

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i do think they should remove luna's cc immune

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just make it not cancel the ult like it doesnt for mantis

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but this allows her to be pushed or pulled away from her team

raven summit
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How do you aim SG grenades.

runic apex
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you gotta get used to the proejctiles, if you root them first they are stuck, best way to handle longer distance throws is to fire before your root gets to the target, you can also aim a little down before the target so it bounces up an explodes near the target( i do this usally for some of the smaller supports or if someone is low)

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you can also bounce off various walls for diffrent angle shots

green junco
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I just kobe that shit

vast geyser
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I love Adam but I can't click heads like that

sacred walrus
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lmao yeah, i normally play support so i go luna -> adam (if luna is banned/i want to change things up/we have star lord & mantis)

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and my crit rate hovers around 15%? which like. should be a lot better, considering charged m2s don't count towards/against it

hexed niche
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One skin I’d love is ultimate iron lad

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lapis aspen
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They've fixed the issue where Peni's mines could be destroyed on her webs

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They did it quite quickly too

runic apex
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i hated how people were calling it a nerf

sly yew
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how is it a nerf?

runic apex
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people being stupid

sly yew
runic apex
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a bug was causing issues with an abilty making it useless and people were acting as if it was a purpseful nerf

lapis aspen
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The bug made it so that, mines on webs could be destroyed which meant that most of Peni's damage was removed
And some people thought it was on purpose, and were already agitated about the Cyber-bond bugs which have been around for a while now

runic apex
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im trying to see if i can get good with starlord now

teal mist
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Starlord asks for the kind of tracking I'm horrible with

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Which of course means he's overpowered and for nerds actually

runic apex
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this is gonna sound wierd but i think so far i do better wit hscarlet

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its easier for me to track single hits vs sustained

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that and scarlets power shot is a projectile

teal mist
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Nawh it's not too weird, Starlord is definitely like the toughest hitscan to properly manage

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Super high DPS but you really gotta hit those shots

runic apex
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starlord does have what i call "a low death value"

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these are charcters that when they die can get back i nthe fight so fast their death matters less

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spiderman and venom are good examples as well

green junco
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Also playing with a warlock gives them a second chance

runic apex
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yeah

runic apex
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so far have not won a round with starlord

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i can tell im imrpvoing though each round

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wait nvm i did get one win

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but these are all starlord matches

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sacred walrus
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you can rolldodge out of E so you can sometimes be really cheeky with it

runic apex
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yeah i noticed that

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i think most of it is sustainde tracking isnt something ive needed to do much of

sacred walrus
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but its really just remarkably good at melting squishies that can't fight back well (like invis/dagger-in-cloak-form)

vast geyser
teal mist
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Everything about this is correct except for implying Sagat players have souls v-v ( joke )

lilac snow
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That's not the reason to not pick a top tier to start off

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The real reason not to is so you know what suffering is like in a given game to help learn what you're actually looking for in a character

green junco
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Oh also his E does split the damage if you hit multiple people, so you can do a lot more to one if its just you and them

lilac snow
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There's two kinds of top tiers, privileged and technical, and both can warp your early impressions of a game

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Or... just pick who's hot

fallow stump
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True!

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And I don't even play fighting games but I'll just pick the hot character

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Worked with rivals :3

lilac snow
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Fighting games, hero shooters, MMOs, whatever

runic apex
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Know what would be kinda decent changes for witch

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faster stun projectile,an extra right click charge

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i am getting better with her and she is so far feeling like a good response to spidy and fliers

lapis aspen
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Flying to meet a flier is always lots of fun with witch

runic apex
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I also really hate that punk skin

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I think spiderman actully has the highest pickrate in the game

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not so much in comp, but in QP

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I did i think about 10-20 matches? i think today i think maybe 3-5 didnt have one

runic apex
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people are saying spidy may have gotten a hidden speed buff?

sacred walrus
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he got a semi-hidden speed buff in the past before last, from playing him today i don't think he's gotten a buff since then

fervent pumice
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Finally getting this MK skin

timber garnet
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Is that the MCU MK skin?

fervent pumice
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From the show yes

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You can see the advertisement for it on the top left lol

timber garnet
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Oh fair lol

green junco
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They keep putting out heat

green junco
sacred walrus
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according to stats - he's actually up there, but still pretty average, for pick rate in qp (at like higher-than-brand-new levels)

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but he's crazy good for winrate in qp, like highest winrate by a landslide. rivalsmeta has him at 80%

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i think he just doesn't work in the comp meta unless you're really good on him, but its super easy to get a lot of value from him in a qp game where you can easily stagger/isolate ppl without comms

green junco
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Real, or just people are generally playing for fun versus tryharding

lapis aspen
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I think when you go into Ranked Spider-Man is just like, a fly. People know they can just heal out of his combo so he doesnt get much work done

sacred walrus
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i think a lot of it is that a mediocre spiderman just spends 50% of their time running around in a corner, 25% actually getting a pick, 25% getting a kill

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which like, compared to other dives, means you're straight up just not doing things for the team a lot more of the time than magik is (as another potential dive dps)

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combine that with ppl learning how to out-heal and/or just not stand next to the edge of the map? yeahhh its rough out there lol

lapis aspen
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A lot of the time since I hate playing slow characters, even if I'm carless and get dragged off I can just go back up

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but less spider-men out there is good imo, annoying character to fight even if he doesnt kill you

runic apex
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Im just kinda tired of fighting him reguardless of the skill level of the spiderman

sacred walrus
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everybody universally agrees he sucks to play against even when he's doing nothing for his team

runic apex
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i think part of it is his speed

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theres this thing i call "death value" its basicly the factor of how much death matters for a charcter

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Spiderman out of the entire cast has the lowest one

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killing him basicly removes him from the fight only for the respawn timer plus 1 to 2 seconds

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so it feels like killing him isnt much diffrent from making him leave for a healthpack

sacred walrus
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its time he's not getting ult charge, which is pretty useful

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his ult charges relatively quickly for what it is

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but yeah, definitely less than killing a namor or w/e counts for

runic apex
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other charcters with noteable low values is venom, starlord, the starlord,mantis,adam teamup(but only once)

lapis aspen
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Cap's is pretty good
And Peni's is lower than lots of people think, and can be absouletely disgusting for the high level One Tricks

runic apex
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yeah i frogot about cap and widow

lapis aspen
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I've seen people fling themselves across the map some how at certain leevels

runic apex
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with their unlimited sprint

lapis aspen
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Peni has a sprint but you have to micro it

runic apex
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several do have ways to get faster to the point but the ones i mentionde are way above the rest

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either having extremely fast ways to get back in via a dash

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or just going "nope that doesnt count"

green junco
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And unlike spider man, you don't need as much map/tech to get your spring out

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I'm not very high ranked mind you since I don't really play the game that often, but I just hitscan on most fliers or zippy guys and it tends to dissuade them

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Sometimes they slip past me or sometimes they turn around since I headshot them

supple heron
green junco
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Rivals is cooking with these skins goddamn

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Rune King Thor and Legendary Ronin

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And a free skin of our choice with orange venom??? Hell yeah

runic apex
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why are all the good skins on chars i don't heavily play

supple heron
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fuck

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there goes my money

runic apex
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give us squirrel girl sailor moon

mild pine
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I was about to suggest a skin but my thoughts immediately disappeared down the pits of distaste

fervent pumice
frigid moat
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Is it true that they added a twerk emote for venom

sacred walrus
fervent pumice
# frigid moat Is it true that they added a twerk emote for venom

https://youtu.be/pUkBrY4o4sU?si=02Kz9cNv9DXGZVoE

YouTube
Ben-Gun
Marvel Rivals - Venom Twerking April's Fool Emote

Marvel Rivals Season 1.5 New Orange Venom Skin Intro, gameplay and MVP Animation + new currency and battlepass like track showcase!

Marvel Rivals is a Super Hero Team-Based PVP Shooter! Assemble an all-star Marvel squad, devise countless strategies by combining powers to form unique Team-Up skills and fight in destructible, ever-changing battle...

▶ Play video
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Likely for April fools

green junco
sacred walrus
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this man is the worst frat boy you've ever met in your life, ever

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this man is a little more yellow

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this one is sick and i respect you if you happened to buy this in s0. i have seen this maybe once and it was a celestial hawkeye who made it into my gm2 lobby. it does look cool though

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green junco
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All the light blue ones are just color swaps, or sometimes more for a reference usually

sacred walrus
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yeah all the 600 cost ones are fine for what they are, its just that his current 2 available skins are "palette swap" and "frat bro" lol

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and as far as the basic palette swaps go there's better ones out there imo - antivenom, ice groot, green mantis are all sick

runic apex
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i like scarlet's 600

green junco
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Though most of the pallette swaps are to mimic thier original comic apperance, like with Doctor strange, unless you're like venom or something

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Hawkeyes is an original though

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Im just glad he's getting a second cool skin, but I agree that freefall may not be that appealing since he looks like a dork

runic apex
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im getting the absoutely worse team mates tonight like a sclaret that never goes after spiderman or human torch

green junco
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it do be like that sometimes

runic apex
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at least ill get psylock and starlord knight done today

severe zephyr
runic apex
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is it just me or do winter lords have giant egos

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So far i have
lord SG
captain mantis
for knight i have winter,wolverine,starlord,punisher,venom,luna,mag,witch,psy,mk,adam,cap

unique storm
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We're getting Venom throwing it back before GTA6.

lapis aspen
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they think "Wowwy I'm getting so many kills and doing so little, I must be amazing at the game", when it's like they get armour every time they do anything

cunning nacelle
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Bucky is a firmly mid tier hero, he's an aim check

sacred walrus
#

for difficulty or for power level? for difficulty hard agree

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for power level, i think he's generally considered one of the strongest dps in the game and for good reason. i think he had nearly 100% pick/ban rate in the latest invitational once the bracket got real

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his raw damage output isn't necessarily crazy good compared to like, a god-tier hela or hawkeye but his util is crazy good compared to both

teal mist
#

Yeah I struggle to see arguments against Buckystrength other than middling win rate which... idek, so much plays into that

lilac snow
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I'd guess he's just really swingy outside of coordinated play

runic apex
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Part of the reason i didn't main him is i was thinkg "ok i def could see this geting a nerf stick"

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and that was before his bufffs

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it being the last thing i mained was gundam evo's Marasai

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another simlar hook charcter

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that and i quickly noticed how easy it was to use him to push tanks away from allies

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I think buffing his health and close range damage was a midstake cause before it made grabbing tanks more of a mistake if you didn't push them into allies

sacred walrus
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like bucky's pick rate is around 30% from gm/celestial & up, and since his ban rate is ~18%, you're probably seeing a bucky mirror match like 50% of the time that bucky's in play?

violet ridge
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Hook characters like hog are fun

sacred walrus
runic apex
raven summit
glass pollen
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"Ultron had multiple wifes and Considers vision as a son" made me do a double take

green junco
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Mhm

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He became Odin once too

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And Hank

raven summit
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So players are either seeing an exploit or Rivals is hinting at something.

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Tldr: Players are getting messages in game chat from a "Miss Computer".

lapis aspen
#

apperantly something similar has happened in the devs game before, people figuring out to use consol stuff through the text chat

runic apex
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i hate the hulk team up so much

cunning nacelle
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Which one?

runic apex
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ironman hulk strange

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also my other annoyance tonight was winter solder

cunning nacelle
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Doesn't really make a difference for Iron Man anymore, Strange it can

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Strange/Hulk are just very good together

runic apex
#

part of it was when it did show up it was a really obvious stack

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i will say though

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on one of those i did see a wolverin hulk pairup

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that was actully really good

runic apex
#

was rough night but i at least did perform well

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fervent pumice
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SG player smh

runic apex
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shes fun

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i think shes underrated

fervent pumice
#

Looks like we'll be getting something this Friday

runic apex
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i really hope if ultron is coming like people think its not a flying support

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im hoping the delay ultron had was them going "flying support is not the most fun thing to fight"

fervent pumice
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Doubt it

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If he even was "delayed"

vast geyser
#

I seriously doubt both of those things, and hope he's a flying dude

sand kelp
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Flyers really aren't as busted as they could be, especially since healers are prime targets

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If he is able to fly, that just makes him easier for someone else to airshot and get the strategist pick

violet ridge
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If his kit is correct he can temporarily go free flight mode but it runs out and he’ll be forced to land

raven summit
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Pretty sure this is just a replay issue.

runic apex
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replay is pretty accurate

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its probally more likely some sort of lag or wierdness

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ive noticed on SG live that ive hit some shots that did not look like it should have hit

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it doesnt happen often but it does happen

raven summit
raven summit
green junco
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EMMA FROST LETS GOOO

sand oracle
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I'm very here for that ultron design

green junco
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Ultron and Magneto interactions are going to be cinema

sand oracle
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I really hope his abilites are actually cool

green junco
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Ultron designs will always go hard

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I mean his abilities already got leaked like a couple times

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Ultron kit leaks, spoilered in case you want to be surprised

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sand oracle
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ah so the answer is no 😔

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I suppose they might be cooler than they sound

green junco
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Oh crap I need to finish the Galacta board game fast if I want to get venom throwing it back

violet ridge
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Emma ultron was not a pair I was expecting

green junco
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I'm also just happy that we're getting both villains and more strategists that don't fit the norm

violet ridge
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Tank Emma seems quite interesting

green junco
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Seeing Krakoa get ultroned is sick

green junco
violet ridge
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I wish they’d given her a stronger silhouette to differentiate her from sue and dagger

green junco
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I think, based on the trailer, she's got a different silhouette

fervent pumice
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We'll have to see her in game

green junco
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She looks a lot less lean and more built compared to the other women in the cast

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And tall

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But yeah I agree

fervent pumice
#

But with her being a tank I imagine she won't be that confusing to see with sue and dagger

violet ridge
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Wait this is one tank one healer this totally screws up my predictions

green junco
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Yeah one strat one vanguard

violet ridge
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Neat upcoming skins, xmen psy and magik, Joe fixit, nick fury Wolverine, and a bunch of gala skins

green junco
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No thats patch

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Wolverines alter ego to be incognito

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It looked worse before lmao

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soft pollen
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I like how you can see Loki chatting with Doom in the background

timber garnet
#

where?

steady flame
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The ultron design looks nice. And a week out huh? I wanna try him out. I

soft pollen
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Around the 32(?) second mark

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timber garnet
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Ah, nice

steady flame
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I enjoy summoning little guys, so maybe Ultron is up my alley

fervent pumice
soft pollen
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I figured.

steady flame
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So they just invited him in the middle of all this time explosion stuff?

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Also “here there are no MARVEL RIVALS, isn’t it nice?”

sly yew
lapis aspen
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All the hellfire gala skins look so good, very excited

runic apex
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I want a dps thats actully fun to play

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fantastic and human torch have not really been winners

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fantastic is wierd and kinda offtanky and torch is just bad

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invisable woman turn out to be really good, and thing might be good

lapis aspen
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Thing is good anti dive, he completely shuts down magic and panther if he can ground them. I think people still arent using him right

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at least, most people arent. There's plenty of good thing players

runic apex
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i do think me being a SG main does flavor some tanks in some ways for me

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because thing is probally the 2nd biggest hardcounter she does

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peni being the biggest

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if your playing peni against sg you should probally just swap.

green junco
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I think all the characters in this game so far are good, except for maybe widow, she could use a bit more of a tune up

runic apex
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widow i don't know how you give her a tune up without making her un fun to fight against

green junco
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Though I do enjoy being able to run around, that's my fun element for her, along with her get off me kick

lapis aspen
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If I'm playing agaisnt a good sg, I just switch off of Peni but a bad Squirrel girl somehow fails to hit my nest or Peni's big ass head

runic apex
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I think they should buff wanda's right clikc by giving her an extra charge or buffing her stun

lapis aspen
#

I think Widow getting more melee stuff might be good

vast geyser
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Teams that just run in and brawl are great for him since he gives the other frontliners that huge damage reduction

lapis aspen
runic apex
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i think people don't know that SG counters both wolverine and tanks

vast geyser
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Wolverine is the only good one like that and yeah he can be frequently banned

runic apex
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magneto is the only tank i can think of SG doenst really do anything for or is worse against

vast geyser
#

Bucky is also one of the most popular picks/bans and guess who can't get bucky pulled

runic apex
#

cap and thor are a problem if they decide to just eracidate you in a 1v1

hexed niche
#

Wait is this the new season?

runic apex
#

yeah

vast geyser
#

Soon

runic apex
#

emma and ultron

hexed niche
#

Oh damn

vast geyser
#

I hope I can Mei freeze people as Emma

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I don't want other people having fun in my video game

hexed niche
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Emma isn’t actually an ice woman

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Her powers are diamond skin and psionics

vast geyser
#

That is

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A misleading name

lapis aspen
#

Marvel love to give heroes ice names then give them no ice powers

green junco
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Iceman is the ice powered xmen

hexed niche
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She is like, an ice queen personality wise

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And her diamond skin sometimes looks like ice

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But it’s still diamonds

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Also after this trailer I think I really see the idea for Ultron as a strategist

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It’s because his drones

green junco
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Emmas primary mutant power is her psionics, but her diamond from came later in the 2000s during New Xmen

hexed niche
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Ultron isn’t just 1 bot but an army of them

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So of course his kit would be focused on those drones

glass pollen
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oh yeah

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is she melee or she has a range weappn?

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I remember complains of me saying they will probably turn her mind powers into more than just mind stuff to be playable

vast geyser
#

I think the most we know so far is her very wide hips

glass pollen
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still very important detail

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...

green junco
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All leaks have found so far is that she's most likely a stance changing character between her regular and diamond form and probably some variety of psionic CC

glass pollen
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oh yeah Pastra is probably happy

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now im curious

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yup he is

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green junco
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Yeah would be weird if we had multiple leaks of his full kit and he's the main bad of the season and he isn't added

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The one thing we didn't know about Dracula that would've made a tougher case if he wasn't added

glass pollen
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oh yeah F blade

green junco
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He might come later on maybe

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Dude did spend all of this season beat up and in prison so

glass pollen
#

if anything now the question is Hank

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unless they do the EMH approach and is tony AND hank creation

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which is arguably probably the best depiction

green junco
#

Oh also the venom twerk emote will not longer be attainable after today in case you wanted it

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It's an reward for completing the board game event

fervent pumice
runic apex
#

ok strange and witch getting a teamup is really funny hen i think of the context of my friend mains strange and ive thought about getting good with witch to counter dive

fervent pumice
#

From season 3 onward they'll be 2 months longs

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And a new hero every month

runic apex
#

wait what

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strange lost ama charge

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but namor is now power of it

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thats really wierd

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they are removing maps from comp

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bans are now in gold

lapis aspen
#

I may never have to see Bucky again then

glass pollen
runic apex
#

yeah

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and changing some

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for example winter was removed from rocket and punisher

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but now has one with cap

green junco
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Teamups:

  • Namor removed from the Luna ice enhancement teamup
  • Strange removed from hulk gamma team up and replaced with Namor
  • Buckey removed from rocket ammo teamup
  • Witch and Magneto sword teamup removed
  • Psylocke removed from Magik portal teamup
  • Thor, Storm, and Cap zap teamup removed
  • New Witch and Strange teamup
  • New Cap and Bucky teamup
  • New Emma, Magneto, and Psylocke teamup
runic apex
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i don't know about the balance changes that well

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they did nerf adam and loki's shift

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aka soulbound and the stone thingy

green junco
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New Teamups:

  • Mental Projection (Emma Anchor, Psylocke and Magneto): The two of them can create a clone that mimics their inputs
  • Arcane Order (Strange Anchor, SW): Witch gets a machinegun special burst attack
  • Stars Aligned (Cap Anchor, Winter Soldier): Bucky gets a leap to allies like Ben
runic apex
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i find it funny i started learning witch and my friend started learning magneto as a sorta alt to our usal stange SG pair in comp

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but then they give witch and strange a team up

twilit belfry
#

Is that doom

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green junco
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That is doom 2099

twilit belfry
#

What is bro doing

lapis aspen
#

He's talking to the President

green junco
#

Based on the dev video, sounds like Emma called a halt to the combat and wanted to host a gala at Krakoa, which got fused with Arrako and sent to 2099 with all of the doom time stuff

lilac snow
#

Krakoa/Arrako lore was already complex enough dangit

glass pollen
#

I guess ultron comes to crash the party

twilit belfry
#

Why did bro decide its a good idea to crash the party with the guy famously good against Metal

green junco
#

It looks like he came through a portal to an age of ultron era universe so I'm sure he's like "I can throw an infinite amount of bodies until he falls over"

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Because magneto can only magnet for so long

lilac snow
lapis aspen
#

it's fine because the Groot one just kills you instantly

runic apex
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i love the groot team up its my favorite in the game to fight as an SG main

lilac snow
#

If we don't count that teamup, Groot has 0 v_v

green junco
lapis aspen
#

it makes sense you might forget about the Luna/Fist one because it doesnt do anything. They put it in as a joke

green junco
#

and luna and jeff and rocket and punishman of course

hexed niche
green junco
runic apex
#

I think the sg/spider one is one of the best in the game

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its an aoe full stun on a cooldown

lapis aspen
#

The Sg/Spider one is really good, very annoying to fight against

green junco
#

I don't see many iron fists so I don't use it often but it does both push people back, slow them, and heal yourself

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I think its helpful when I have it

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Stops dives and lets me skate away

lilac snow
green junco
#

Oh like heroes with only two teamups you mean

lilac snow
runic apex
#

i much perfer just to read the raw info in general

lilac snow
#

He feels like he doesn't wanna do this, just grab a PR guy

runic apex
#

never been a video person when it comes to patchnotes nad such

green junco
#

To me its just an overview to get you excited and then you read the patchnotes

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The video would be much longer if it was the full patchnotes instead of main color highlights

runic apex
#

also i do find it strange no winter nerfs

green junco
#

I think getting rid of his infinite ammo team up is a nerf

#

Same goes for the gamma boost

runic apex
#

i don't think it matters too much in terms of how strong winter is

#

it does make him stronger sure, but i don't think its the teamup that makes him so strong.

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that and he did just get another team up right after

lapis aspen
green junco
#

Which is not as powerful as unlimited ammo imo, being able to dash to allies is good for movement but would have a cooldown obviously

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Its just Magik teamup but you have to have someone in range to do it

sacred walrus
#

im also curious about the soul bond nerf. i didn't feel like it was that strong outside of countering ults, vs. something like regen domain which was obviously crazy good in many situations

runic apex
#

whats silly is they just buffed soul bound

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last patch

sacred walrus
#

barely

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the soul bond healing is negligible, its not really ever something you use for the healing output - it's pitiful even with the buff lol

runic apex
#

yeah thats why i just find it so odd

#

it makes no sense to nerf adam

sacred walrus
#

no he's cracked and has shown that pretty clearly in tournament play

#

but soul bond in specific im a little dubious on because like - his main gimmick is that he's got really good damage output, a button he can hit to help the team survive specific ults, and an ult that can be huge (but is a lot harder to use than the other support ults). hitting soul bond feels lke an odd way to nerf him if they feel like he's overbearing - move the star-lord or mantis teamup, or bring his damage back down

runic apex
sacred walrus
#

wtf she has a command grab?

runic apex
#

I don't like her ult

sacred walrus
#

command THROW lol

#

im so hyped for this rocket skin

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green junco
#

First of all, hey Carol Danvers may be coming

#

Second of all

glass pollen
#

bitch just grabs you and dunks you
based

green junco
#

Posted up above lol

#

Yeah shes a main for sure

runic apex
#

she has a team up with someone

glass pollen
#

iirc

sacred walrus
#

yeah she hosts 1 teamup with 2 people, mag & psylocke

glass pollen
#

oh yeah mutants

runic apex
#

OH DUH yeah

sacred walrus
#

the s2 reveal announcement thing listed the teamup changes/removals/additions

runic apex
#

i completely just forgot about that

#

that she did show that off

sacred walrus
#

those are all just her kit, none of those are teamup abilities

runic apex
#

buffed hulk in general, and nerfed magneto's ult usage

sacred walrus
#

oh sick i didn't realize the actual list of changes was out

runic apex
#

just now

#

scarlet lost some surviablity for more damage

sacred walrus
#

oh wow peni got a big buff - not sure what 'chance to crit' means, is that random or can it headshot now? but even just 650->750 hp seems huge

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i was expecting like, her nest has more HP & maybe she moves faster in her webs, or something minor

runic apex
#

why would you reduce ironman's hitbox size, and give him bonus health when he does overdrive

sacred walrus
#

god hates supports

runic apex
#

more like hates anyone without hitscan

sacred walrus
#

wow hela and hakweye minor buffs (not their direct dmg output), thats crazy

vast geyser
runic apex
#

also starlord got gutted

#

Reduce Blaster Barrage damage from 80 per second to 75. Introduce a new damage falloff mechanic, starting at 4 meters and maxing out at 80% reduction at 8 meters.

sacred walrus
#

wtf moon knight ult crazy buff

#

30% more duration at the cost of "kills you not quite as quick on the edges"

vast geyser
#

Also seeing Emma frosts kit I am instantly going to main her as my tank, I love grabs

runic apex
#

i really don't understand why they keep buffing ironman every update

vast geyser
#

And the "KNEEL, PEASANTS" ult line is just, perfect

sacred walrus
#

i don't think it'll change too much tho tbh

runic apex
#

4 meters is really short

sacred walrus
#

slower ult build but i don't think it changes much else about his kit - blaster barrage is really just good for that more than anything else

runic apex
#

oh wait

sacred walrus
#

bucky hook 1.5x cooldown 🙏

runic apex
#

am i being sutpid

sacred walrus
#

blaster barrage is his spin cycle E

runic apex
#

ok nvm

#

i am stupid

sacred walrus
#

did you think it was his primary/ult

#

lol

runic apex
#

i hate some of thse ablity names

sacred walrus
#

hm a 30% heal on adam ult is actually pretty nice

#

now you can actually get tanks back up near full with 2 Es after

#

ok, soul bond/regen domain nerfs really aren't that bad. just the cooldown is probably OK, it just means it's really useless for healing now

runic apex
#

for duelists thats worse

#

but tanks its better

sacred walrus
#

barely - it's only a difference of at worst 20 hp

#

its a lot better overall i think bc of how his healing pingpongs

#

oh jesus christ you can stack mantis damage amp again?

vast geyser
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I would basically always just pop it for when the tank died anyways so that is a big buff

sacred walrus
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yeah i only solo pop it on supports/tanks, and supports can heal themselves lol

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wow rocket mains need to learn how to aim their orbs now. that's crazy. #fraudwatch

runic apex
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dang i don't like the cya changes from the point of SG

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so before cya's 40% was enough to let SG 2 shot a lot of the cast

sacred walrus
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i think it made everybody with at least mediocre damage output 2 shot a lot of the cast

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lol

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i wish we got the new teamups explained/showcased in the patch notes

runic apex
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it made sg go from 110 per hit to 154 per hit

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also mantis was added to the SG easy kill list

unique storm
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They gave Emma a command grab?!

glass pollen
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bitch picks you up and throws you into the trashcan

sacred walrus
green junco
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Choke throw

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I'm so ready

runic apex
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diamond makes her cc immune

sacred walrus
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yo that's huge

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that means we can see two emma frosts try to grab each other and fall over

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bucky flop 2.0

runic apex
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i just noticed both rocket and mantis will be easier to kill next update

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mantis lost health, and rocket got his dash nerfed

sacred walrus
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im not convinced rocket will be meaningfully easier to kill tbh

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i think 2 8m dashes is still enough to Not Be There Anymore most of the time

runic apex
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thats true

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but it is kinda intesting that 4 supports lost something on their surviavlity this update

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mantis lost hp, adam and loki got cooldown nerfs, and rocket got cooldown and distance.

violet ridge
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I didn’t feel Adam needed the nerf, and isn’t rocket one of the highest EI rate characters right now?

sacred walrus
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adam nerf is pretty minor imo - soul bond is less spammable, but its not like going 30->40s is going to make it unusable now

teal mist
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oof rocket

runic apex
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yeah i hate the rocket changes

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i understand what they are going for

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but it sorta kills what i did like about rocket

teal mist
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Just don't want that lad firing his gun

runic apex
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i guess its back to mantis now

teal mist
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Also the Iron Fist Reshuffle feels like it might be a seasonal staple

runic apex
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or maybe invisable

teal mist
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Hulk buffs very welcome

runic apex
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i still don't understand why buff ironman

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who thought "yes ironman needs a button to give him 100 bonus hp"

teal mist
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Lower fixed damage of Yat Jee Chung Kuen from 10 to 9, but increase the percentage damage of the enemy's Max Health per strike from 1.7% to 2.1%.

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Like how meaningful can this functionally be

sacred walrus
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it makes him do ~10% more damage to tanks than he previously did

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previously he did 21 to a target with 650 hp, now he does 23

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its closer to a 20% damage bonus on targets w/ 800 hp, i suppose, so maybe that's the idea? idk. not a meaningful damage difference for squishies really by comparison, ttk wise, but decently faster for tanks

teal mist
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2 seconds off kick cd is enormous though

vast geyser
sand kelp
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I'm sure Emma Frost will be a fun character to play, but Rivals devs. Come on

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This is three times in a row guys

runic apex
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the funny thing is this means you can have an even gender blonde squad 2-2-2

sand kelp
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Pick a different color scheme, holy shit

runic apex
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Thor,emma,starlord,magik,adam, and invisable or cloak

violet ridge
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I wonder what Emma’s launch skin will be

violet ridge
sand kelp
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White on Blue Blonde Women

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Three in a row

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I don't mind any of the characters in isolation that much. But all of them? In a row? Come on, dude

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Pick a different color scheme or character. All I'm asking. Just shake it up a bit

violet ridge
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I honestly hope they go black Valkyrie just so that we don’t t get another

sand kelp
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I want Some variety, please

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By the time Captain Marvel rolls around we will have Five Blonde Hair Blue Eyed White Women

celest wadi
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Captain marvel will at least have a very different outfit color scheme

violet ridge
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As does magik

runic apex
#

yeah blue with white this time

violet ridge
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Also, given some leaks I wonder if we’ll get pheonix/modok with arrako as a map to continue the krakoa plot

runic apex
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i want gambit

sand kelp
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That will help, for sure. But Still-

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Could've had Monica Rambeau is all I'm saying

sand kelp
runic apex
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im making a joke

sand kelp
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Gotcha-

green junco
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Being able to color swap skins in the future will help this a lot

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I want a white and gold Emma tbh

violet ridge
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Watch them dig through marvel’s catalogue to find more blond women with white a blue colors schemes to give large posteriors

green junco
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But I'm sure a classic Emma skin will be here soon too

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Sif is definitely someone I could see being added

sand kelp
runic apex
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yeah it was really dumb to go with the whit eblue with dagger being in the game

green junco
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Rivals like to make their own spins and then have the recolor be the OG appearance or an iconic variant

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I respect the hustle, but I get it too

sand kelp
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I understand that. But their own spin on character design has been the same idea, thrice in a row

green junco
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I don't think so? Like the three blonde women all have pretty different default outfits

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Colors, I guess I could see that but when the color changes get added, that won't be a problem

sand kelp
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Yes, they have different silhouettes and ideas going for them, but like. Emma could have been white on silver at the very least. She did Not need blue in the design

runic apex
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ehh i confuse dagger and invis quite often

green junco
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I think if they made it like a darker blue, closer to OG X-Men jumpsuit blue, I would like it more, but I think it would look better than silver

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Gold is what I wanted

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That's her thing, white and gold

sand kelp
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Gold would be Much better and it might even contrast well with her being blonde

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Also why does Emma have short hair

green junco
sand kelp
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Isn't long hair kind of her Shtick

green junco
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No not really

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She bounces around a lot

sand kelp
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Even so, I think that much could differentiate her

green junco
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(a lot of her looks)

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I haven't really had problems telling people apart in this game honestly

sand kelp
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I can figure it out pretty quickly due to silhouette, animation, the little things yk

runic apex
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its mainly just dagger and iw when they are right next to each other in a mess of a moshpit of a fight

sand kelp
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Well if you're fighting both of them you're in for a hell of a time anyway

green junco
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If they're ever next to each other, it's only a matter of time before cloak pulls up and then it could get easier for you to differentiate

runic apex
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yeah, but its more of at that very moment that im chosing one to target of the two , theres a few times ill target one thinking its the other just go to "well theres cloak"

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or "oh there iw goes on a big jump"

green junco
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But yeah silhouettes, outfits, abilities, and animations tend to help me, that and very different projectiles/playstyles

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Susan tends to play closer compared to dagger chucking things a mile away

sand kelp
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If you get Either of them it will be a boon, bc they're very similar in priority

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But like. I'm bitching primarily bc this is a little ridiculous. I know Marvel has a lot of Blonde White Women with Blue Eyes but would it kill them to shake it up a little bit?

Pairing it with the similar color schemes, like. It's not the Only design they do, but it is a pattern. This pattern probably won't go past these characters, but if they somehow keep doing this trend I'm going to lose it a lil bit lol

green junco
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There's just a lot of popular blonde white marvel superheroes

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I think we'll be getting Carol here soon and as far as leaks go, that's all the main women out of the way

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And really the popular blonde white women in marvel really

sand kelp
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And then it's like, Jean and Angela

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Both redheads

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My main problems with this game's character design extend to the women specifically, bc everyone else has been pretty well knocked out of the park

green junco
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Not super sure about Angela but Jean most likely

sand kelp
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Angela was leaked at some point iirc

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Idk if it was True, but it was out there

green junco
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Yeah I've heard Angela too

sand kelp
green junco
#

Tbf Hawkeye stopped wearing his cowl after the 90s, but stuck to the glasses at most into the modern comics

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And this is post ronin battle hardened Hawkeye in the game

runic apex
#

i want gambit to lose his wierd helmet

sand kelp
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No actually I'll fight you on that. I think his hood that leaves his hair and face is core to his design

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Variant skins, I mean fuck it do whatever

runic apex
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i think if you wanted somethong on his head i think a headband would look less wierd

green junco
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Im with Juno with this, the cowl is a big part of him

sand kelp
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It frames his face in a very specific way

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And you lose a bit of that when you remove it

runic apex
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i do think it looks less wierd to me when he has longer hair

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green junco
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He's a flamboyant guy, and it's part of his charm as a guy who is incredibly charismatic (part of his mutant powers) and isn't afraid to show it

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It's also actual armor from his guild days that can stop bullets

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Sentimental value

runic apex
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yeah i generally like how gambit looks, its purely the cowl i dislike

lapis aspen
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Don't like this

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Hawkeye's ult is already annoying and now there's going to be more of it

wet trout
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blaarrrrggg

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Ok.

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Guess for the 2nd part oft he season.

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Jean Gray Obviously.

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and either Blade.

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Cyclops OR profesor X

runic apex
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its gonna be ultron

wet trout
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Emma and Ultron are right now.

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first season they released 2 heros ( Reed and Sue ) and then second half they released 2 more

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presumably its gonna stay that way

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but I could be wrong

green junco
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They aren't doing that for any of the other seasons

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Season 1 is special

wet trout
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how do you know that?

runic apex
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yeah they didn't want to do the fantastic 4 over 2 seasons

green junco
#

They said so when season 1 launched

wet trout
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oh ok =-=

green junco
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Season 2 is Emma April 11th and Ultron Late May

wet trout
#

lammmmme

green junco
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Seasons are only going to be around 2 months long ish, with a new character every month

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Which is a lot faster than season 1 obviously

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I think we'll start to see what season 3 looks like as we get into season 2 and we can make better predictions then

raven summit
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Can we get a woman who isn't blonde next?

wet trout
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get taht crazy psychic fire haired lady up in there

runic apex
#

i want gambit

wet trout
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im a sucker for a blond but like seriously

wet trout
runic apex
#

rogue is one im not sure how you would intergrate her

wet trout
#

either a stratagist or a striker

green junco
#

Don't worry they're getting through the popular blondes of marvel

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Just missing Carol Danvers

wet trout
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obviously we need a new team up ability with all the blonds from invisible woman

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.....called WHITE WOMAN JUMPSCARE

green junco
#

And Valkyrie

runic apex
#

you can already make a full 222 blond team

green junco
#

I mean Hawkeye, Cap, and Thor are also blonde

runic apex
#

i forgot about cap

green junco
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And Johnny too

runic apex
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johnny as well

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johnny is always on fire, and cap wears a cap

green junco
#

Plus part of it is that due to printing issues for comics, it was a lot more common to have blonde or black haired characters

raven summit
#

Emma's silhouette gives me paladin vibes.

runic apex
#

that makes a lot of sense when you say it that way

green junco
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Brown doesn't show up well on older comic books

wet trout
#

add Kitty Pryde too

raven summit
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The shoulder pads really help with the tank feel.

wet trout
#

just run through obsticles

green junco
#

She's a tank

wet trout
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just getting I-frames as bullets go through her

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iron man ult goes right through her into her whole team

green junco
#

Also in the trailer, she calls iron man "my dear" when she kills him which I can tell is her being a jackass to everyone or just Tony

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They did date that one time which is why I say that

wet trout
frigid moat
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It was a political move I think

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But at the same time I dont hate them as a couple

green junco
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They were forced to marry to avoid Orchis suspicions

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After the attack on the third hellfire gala

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They annulled it after Feilong and Orchis were defeated

frigid moat
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Tony dating someone who can read his mind feels like it would help his self destructiveness a lot though I'll admit I dont have a lot of experience reading Emma I get the feeling shed like dating someone who is a) very rich but also b) a guy who's a bit of a fuck up but a golf person

green junco
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Tony just likes strong composed people like Pepper Potts and Whitney Frost that know what they're doing and are an anchor

frigid moat
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I remember like Bethany too from the old comics that I would pick up at garage sales

green junco
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Emma is always into goody two shoe guys and is actually pretty nice underneath the icy faces, and she enjoys people with inner darkness or vulnerability

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I don't think it works well as a romantic couple (they never actually did any) but they do some good power moves against orchis during that issue and beyond

frigid moat
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Hes not autistisim coded enough for her /s sadcowboy

green junco
#

I can pick up Tony's slack

glass pollen
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bitch he is relaxing eating a sandwich and you appeared bossing around and reading his mind out of nowhere, let him eat

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I guess its just the territory of being that kind of character or mischaracterization

green junco
#

You missed the second panel

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teal mist
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The era of Scott Being Done With Everybody is delightful

glass pollen
green junco
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Esme is the one kid that Emma likes the most, in that she thinks being a broken hearted femme fatale type would make her heart stronger

wanton salmon
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god i wish they didnt just give her telekinetic floating walls they had so many different options

if they need tanks who can put down physical walls theres so many options for that too

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but they coulda given her different walls with her exisitng powers

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her ult rules though

green junco
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Partially because she sees herself the most in Esme despite Phoebe being the actual closest one

glass pollen
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If anything I think this panel is more "psychics not knowing social cues or not helping themselves to read minds"

green junco
#

She's also pissed off that teen cable is dating all of the stepford cuckoos, which is why she's more mad

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That and Emma and Scott have some rapport so it's not as bad for him since he's used to multiple psychic women being in his head but it's more of an Emma thing to actively use her powers to her benefit

glass pollen
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Fair enough

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its just she kind of looks like its a 50/50 between being kind of a bitch and being a nice person

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though that is arguably.... half of the X men cast?

sly yew
#

vicksySip what's a hero with an unique power that could come into game?

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They added fricking jeff so i dont doubt anything

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I love Jeff btw

green junco
#

Scott's also kind of an asshole to her like more often than not so I don't mind her putting her foot down

green junco
sly yew
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Oh sorry! Didnt mean to interrupt the discussion i'll be back later

green junco
#

You're good don't worry

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Id love to see Kurt Wagner or even Lockjaw in this game

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I think some sort of self teleport would be pretty fun in a tracer way

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And Kurt could duel wield rapiers and warp into melee

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Emma being snooty but not necessarily in a mean way

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sly yew
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lockjaw is called "dentinho" which means lil tooth in portuguese vicksyLUL

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anyways had to comment on that vicksyPeek i'll be back later friends!

green junco
#

Also he would add to the cuddly creature roster that is just Jeff for now

mild pine
#

There's also Rocket

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and Squirrel Girl

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Her by herself, tippy-toe is too angry right now to be cuddled

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And The Thing

green junco
#

None of those people are creature, except for maybe rocket but he wouldn't agree with you

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Cuddly though sure

#

I love Ben so much, he's just a lovable guy

mild pine
#

best guy

green junco
#

Made me happy to nuke old ultimate from my memory with the new Ultimates

glass pollen
#

I saw people being like "Give us Ratatoskr" since the model is just there

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that or

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runic apex
#

yeah i was about to post that

sly yew
lilac snow
sly yew
#

that would actually be very clever

lilac snow
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Which is not really something you can usually pull off on MP games with set maps

sly yew
#

imagine making someone think there's cover when there's not

lilac snow
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And making people walk into walls or off ledges is like a comics Mysterio classic

sly yew
#

vicksyLUL that would be neat haha

green junco
# sly yew he got a different ult?

Ultimate is a seperate comic continuity than the "canon" 616 verse where most stuff happens. Ultimate, or at least the old one, is where characters like Miles Morales came from. It was really bad for anything that isn't miles related. It recently got reset and now theres a new comic timeline called the Ultimate Universe or "new ultimates" by fans, which is where the super evil Reed Richards from the old ultimates universe survived the bit cataclym event that nuked the old verse (Long story), and found a new parallel verse to manipulate to where no heroes exist, and the ones that do work for him

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Old Ultimates Ben Grimm was just constantly suicidal and the rest of the team treated him like shit basically, until he got a special ability where he wasn't always in his rock form anymore. New ultimate ben and the rest of the F4 were diverted by evil Reed or "The Maker" to where they missed the cosmic storm that gave them powers and is insinuated to be dead ||except for new ultimate reed....||

sly yew
#

Ooh i see

green junco
#

I suggest it if you want to read something different than regular marvel stuff, since basically everyone's backstories and the world is geared to where they have to fight an steep uphill battle to beat out the odds

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It's like Marvel's Absolute Universe, which I also suggest

lapis aspen
#

I think all of the new ultimate comics are trapped in a very weird update a month where a month passes in the comic as well
Which hurts them a lot, even if they're really good

green junco
#

That's because the events and story happen in "real time"

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So as they release, that's the current state of the universe, which makes it much easier to track compared to the billion different titles and storylines happening in 616 at the same time

raven summit
sly yew
green junco
#

They went all out, though I will say I fuck with the gold and X-Men logo

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lilac snow
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The X garters are maybe a little much tho

sly yew
#

What's a garter?

lapis aspen
#

goes on your leg to keep up stockings traditionally

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Although they can be worn without them

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Those might not actually be Garters, they looks to be part of a weird set of trousers

fervent pumice
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runic apex
#

yeah not a fan of the sg skin

hexed niche
#

Oh cool a skin based more on Danny Rand

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Not his original design but his original mask

green junco
#

Peach Momoko skins lets fucking gooo

vast geyser
#

Everyone is dressed up fanciful and then squirrel girl gets a punk outfit, that's great

runic apex
#

Yeah it does seem that witch pretty much did end up getting just nerfed

#

Lost survablity to basicly have simlar damage then she had with thea anchor boost

green junco
#

Oh also the new witch skin is the free skin for the event

#

That or just for playing 9 games in the new season

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One of the two

runic apex
#

i think pretty much all the charcters i like to play execept SG got hit

lapis aspen
#

It seems like, she was buffed to always have the 10% damage boost she had with Magneto but without magneto

runic apex
#

yeah, but then lost survablity