Would of been 4 but my house lost power
#Mahvel Rivals baby
green junco
lapis aspen
half your team getting self heal sounds pretty good yeah
green junco
Ah so they used the Blade art in the event tab
the fact that we got both negative zone Johnny and trench coat Ben is awesome
violet ridge
Rivals has had some good skin choices
I wonder if the remaining characters this year might be Emma/Modok:krakoa, ultron/jean klyntar and blade/hood:Thebes
I’m not certain if hood will be this year though
teal mist
Slightly wary we're in for another 20% Bucky Pickrate Season
runic apex
i alreyad hate the sue team up btw
i want it removed entirely
also storm was not actully nerfed
teal mist
Yeah that was some incredibly slight % changes for getting another crazy teammup
runic apex
id argue she got buffed more than nerfed
teal mist
She wasn't really relying on like a TwoShot type of thing like Hela
runic apex
lol yeah
this is a slap on the finger level nerf
its argubally a buff
yeah storm overall got buffed
cause the teamup just undos all the damage nerf
is it werd ithink punisher will be meta for a while just as a counter thing
lapis aspen
yeah the more fliers that appear the more punisher and hella are going to get value
runic apex
i don't want to main punisher to win hes so boring
green junco
I mean you don't need ot use just punisher or hela to kill flying people
lapis aspen
it makes it much easier though
green junco
Pretty much anyone with a fast projectile can chunk them
lapis aspen
and with triple flier dps becoming a thing. You need to stop from being able to exist
green junco
Then you just have more folks
I do just fine with Adam Warlock
Luna and Mantis can do pretty good work too
runic apex
yeha luna's clap is pretty good against fliers
also i dislike that one of the vents is thing or torch
hexed niche
It’s just fantastic
green junco
It’s just fantastic
runic apex
lapis aspen
is squrriel girls house
I like her curse of Dracula ttrpg table
runic apex
also yeah requiring thing or torch instead of one and one genric i hate
severe zephyr
Squirrelcopter?
runic apex
yeah tripple flier sucks
also i think they should change human torches fire to blue when he is an ally
green junco
Maybe I have a different viewpoint when it comes to team comp games from my time from OW and OW 2, but I'm not worried about the triple flyer stuff. I think being open queue and having the ability to cycle between roles on a whim makes comps feel way more favorable to go against. Plus the dev team is pretty responsive when it comes to making changes.
I also don't want them to take the Blizzard approach and overcorrect until every patch makes and breaks a character. It's not like OW meta where it's a curbstomp every time, you can adjust and win through skill
runic apex
i mean they buffed both ironman and storm this patch and added a new flier
teal mist
I still don't rightly understand the Iron Fist damage nerf/adjustment
Like doing slightly more damage to tanks is
fine
but any amount of healing makes it utter ass to kill a squishy target
and now there's three flying ones
green junco
I think they were trying to adjust him away from being a "Hide in corner until cooldowns are up and then burst someone" and more of a "slightly more tanky brusier"
teal mist
I don't know exactly what that brings to the table, I guess
kind of just feels like a mess of blocking and enhanced autos in teamfights
green junco
I felt like before the patch, if an iron fist tried to do something in a team fight, he gets killed very fast
I don't know how much of a change this will make but it might give him a bit more omph to at least slip around
teal mist
Like
You almost physically can't kill someone through a Dagger bubble
without also blowing all your cds again
green junco
i mean they buffed both ironman and storm this patch and added a new flier
Eh, they just moved some of the hulk gamma charge to iron man a little bit and made Storms ult better, along with a slight boost to her ally support stuff (Along with direct damage nerfs). I don't think it will make her or iron man substantially better imo
teal mist
I kind of loved how independant his kit made him and being TeamFights Guy just feels like Why Not A Tank Or Something
lapis aspen
I need to play more matches with him in to get a real idea of it, but currently his fire on the floor stuff just feels pretty annoying
And his main fire seems, very strong
green junco
they also buffed her damage due to the anchor support
Id consider 5% pretty negligible compared to some of the other anchor bonuses. Hawkeye gets a 15% from his for instance
(It means her left click does 57 instead of 55 damage, and her right click does 84 instead of 80)
main parcel
Jeez Doreen, it's bad enough you humiliated Thanos in front of the Watcher, but did you have to steal his helicopter, too?
runic apex
mild pine
Ahhhh
enjoying the Thing
Ben's ability to thunder my way straight to the objective knocking everyone up along the way feels so good
I'm not even diving it's more a question if people can stop me
teal mist
Thing + Hulk seems like an absolute romp
mild pine
I literally finished the push by shunting my way through the enemy to the cart, clobbering the support standing on the cart, and watching as the enemy team panicked and failed to turn around in time
teal mist
Clobber stuns so long, I thought it'd be the knockup but they're out like a full extra second
green junco
You can also spin around in circles with the charge and keep knocking people up
timber garnet
Here's the thing
violet ridge
It feels like loading times are worse since there’s so many new patch
green junco
Me
violet ridge
Thing’s charge feels super awkwards
glass pollen
yeah thatt is the only thing I dont like of ben
too clunky and I think it should be tied to camera movement
or be able to change the sensitivity of the buttons
violet ridge
Hard to get your hands on Johnny for the challenge
runic apex
yeah
runic apex
we get to see squirrel girl's house
runic apex
yeah i think the thing migyht have to wait to see how it good he is cause so far i wasnt impressed with human torch
if human torch falls off you wont see as many fliers
violet ridge
It’s a lot more awkwards to do his flame cage thing than we thought
cunning nacelle
if you're having real trouble with fliers that's time to swap i think
runic apex
but the thing is torch exists now, ironman got buffed(he did not need unibeam buffed it was alread the best move), and storm got a team up
cunning nacelle
iron man was very rarely picked outside of the hulk teamup, and that was tuned down
now he's more useful outside of armor overdrive and particularly outside of the hulk teamup
runic apex
i think it would have been better to buff other parts of the kit
teal mist
A'right will say, 500 health on Iron Fist does feel pretty damn chunky
Also Clobbering Time seems to have an aoe slightly behind the Thing
bonus health from his heal drains a bit too fast though, it's like they want you to try midcombat
mild pine
The Thing is built like a Bistro and handles like a Steakhouse but I kinda love the clunky control on his charge
Whenever I'm playing Sue with Ben on the team I try and save my gravity wells to drag fliers out of the sky so he can swat them
frigid moat
I might take a break from the game for a week or two because Johnny and Thing being instalocked cause they are new/tied to the event has tanked so many matches
mild pine
Honestly I just did some AI matches to get my stuff completed
teal mist
Very satisfying when a domination point can be perfectly Shaped with Human Torch Walls
runic apex
how do you feel about him
my first impression was on the weak side
the shotgun is good for sure but its effective range is shorter than the range you want him to be at to use the right click and smash
teal mist
he seems abundantly murderable
but could be a good addition to like a namor team if he can be defended, very solid anti dive, the damage is good
also i am horrible at aiming his autos
green junco
Toss walls down
teal mist
yeah just sort of space control
at least compared to tony or storm
( though storm does it with terrifying dps in enhanced mode )
also the Slam knockback
is super real
feels like underrated ability
he's like more close range than i'd have expected
runic apex
i could def see you just fire walling your own team to protect against melee
teal mist
it's a lot of damage to slap on a whole point, around a cart
just a little awkward to set up
green junco
That's what I was saying
violet ridge
I think ratstoskr is map only
lapis aspen
The Squirrel Girl one is fun because you get to play as Squir- uh no looks like someone locked her. And all the other heroes needed for missions...
lilac snow
I've seen worse, like taking 50k while playing tanks is like normal 3 games, no?
violet ridge
The Squirrel Girl one is fun because you get to play as Squir- uh no looks like ...
Exactly, especially with how many stuns you need
I’ve never played sg either
lapis aspen
I think the human torch one is teh really annoying one
because you have to play as human torch
violet ridge
I think next season will be krakoa hellfire gala with either Emma/jean or Emma/modok
wanton salmon
i could see getting emma/blade for the first half and jean/different hellfire club member for the second too
teal mist
Thing + Hulk is an absolute romp as expected, the big boys, the square lads, you're both just everywhere and so durable and violent
sly yew
Punch
violet ridge
I find thing doesn't like to dive and pursue as well as cap does, he wants to break the line then fall back and repeat
mild pine
yeah, Cap has a bit more movement that lets them slip around regularly and become ungovernable
While Thing moves in, smashes the line, punches a healer in the face a few times, then pulls back to their own healers
sly yew
Always thought that the Thing's hero name was kinda of mean 
mild pine
It kinda is
But it was given to him by himself in most situations
It shows how tough he is, cause those words bounce right off
plus the people he likes call him Ben
sly yew
i see
sly yew
plus the people he likes call him Ben
That's good
mild pine
Ben and Wolverine have a really good combo honestly
mild pine
Both
the fast ball special they do is great for Wolverine, but also Ben being able to follow it up with his E and shield them both means Wolvi gets even more damage resist than normal
Which he badly needs when engaging hard into enemy ranks
sly yew
that sounds nice
mild pine
yeah
throw your buddy, jump in, both of you are tougher, and both of you smack people real good in the face
glass pollen
Thing + Hulk is an absolute romp as expected, the *big boys, the square lads*, y...
I had a match were we both just slugged into each other everytime we got close
the hulk wasnt that good tho so I won most of them
wonder how a 1v1between them would go ingame
mild pine
one time you don't want to take that fight though; savage hulk doesn't knock you back, so he does a LOT of damage real fast because Ben's not tossed backwards.
I mean taking a fight mid-ult is never great but the lack of knockback on Ben meant I was getting beat to shit
glass pollen
I was surprised when Jeff cant spit you
so he has to suicide with you to confirm kill
mild pine
Oh he can't? DAMN... interesting
Ben with a death grip on the shark's tonsils
if the time runs out does Ben just pop out right next to him?
runic apex
basicly he doesnt get flung
oyou can still spit but you need to do it right and only in some places
glass pollen
basically he only appears right in front of jeff without the knockback
so either right at the border and hope ben doesnt get a foot hold
or suicide with him in mouth
its like wolverine
he cant get kidnapped but he still has tank life
runic apex
he can still be stopped just not pushed
severe zephyr
hexed niche
Gamers do we know if the blood soldier winter soldier skin is limited or not?
runic apex
is that a bought one or pass one
main parcel
Pretty sure it's not limited, but it's "discounted" right now so they might increase the price.
hexed niche
is that a bought one or pass one
The bought one
runic apex
no idea then
hexed niche
Fug
green junco
If it doesn't have a time under the icon in the shop it isn't limited from what I can tell
hexed niche
Oh sick
violet ridge
I feel like thing is a really good anti diver too
he can get to whoever the enemy is trying to attack to give them both shields and his passive means you can't get him off of you without falling back
teal mist
plus the charge messes with a lotta mobility options
but also a weird amount of things ignore it (SPIDERMAN SPIDERMAN) or maybe he can just sort of double jump out and then thwip
green junco
spiderman is just built different
sand oracle
I have kind of middling internet and as a result I find Spider-Man to be a real problem
I simply cannot track him with my ping
violet ridge
I have kind of middling internet and as a result I find Spider-Man to be a real ...
even with good internet he's hard to hit
sand oracle
Oh I’m sure I can’t hit him either way he is just impossible to see
raven summit
Ironman real melts Jonny. Doesn't help my aim isn't the best.
wanton salmon
yeah and jonny is harecore built as an air to ground
ironman can dump his dps into anyone anywhere close enough
the main counter is to be further away from ironman
violet ridge
I think it would be cool if fighter pilot carol was made into a dedicated air superiority flier who isn't great against grounded targets but wrecks flying ones
give her a dragonball style homing dash that can only target airial targets
sand oracle
Human torch isn’t awful anti-air close up, if you’re good at aiming
violet ridge
I just thought of the most fun anti flier tech: izuna drop dash grab that deals damage based on how long you fell
green junco
Good aim with hitscan works for me, or namor
raven summit
Is he hit scan or projectile?
runic apex
projectile but squids are hitscan
surreal cipher
I would like another 'E-Z Aim' character or two, without Wanda's range cap, to offer a counterpick to the evasive fliers.
green junco
Yeah turrets
Though his spears can hit like a truck, and the flyers don't move that fast unless you're iron man running away
glass pollen
thing
hexed niche
Ngl I really hate the Loki strat of just stacking clones in one place and using them as effectively a damage buff
Because you can get so much more value and actual healing by spreading them out for your healing rune
runic apex
i think with that you need to know when t odo either one
violet ridge
Some voices lines by characters referencing hood were found in the files, suggesting he’s coming this year, season 4 is the current guess
This means that blade, hood, ultron, Emma and Jean are all the most likely candidates for the remainder of the year, with cmarvel as the most likely one to fill the final slot
glass pollen
Some voices lines by characters referencing hood were found in the files, sugges...
could be just a prop thing
since we do have the various heroes talking with like
herbie
bats
ratatoskr
violet ridge
could be just a prop thing
sure but parker was leaked, alongside his ability names, and the dialgue is clearly a spider man elimination line (you always pick the wrong side robins)
runic apex
teal mist
the clobberin' hour.. that hit on johnny, that knockback on scarlet
thing is so visceral and fun
runic apex
this was my first time using him
sly yew
i liked it when u punched the guy 
teal mist
I may be biased but Namor/Bucky is truly the No Fun Allowed Team
runic apex
I think the problem with bucky is their buff was perfect in making him no longer have a weakness
lapis aspen
namor is fine, theres stuff you can do about Namor. Shoot his turrets and stuff
Bucky is just too good
runic apex
before hooking a tank would get you killed
but now that his close range damage is higher and his surviabilty is better
its less risky to go after tanks
green junco
When I see them pop off, I just have to focus my attention on personally ruining their day
Or playing from more range to keep the hooks at bay
teal mist
namor is fine, theres stuff you can do about Namor. Shoot his turrets and stuff
...
I'm not saying he's overpowered, I'm saying he's about as interesting as dishwater
the enemy team just has a Passive Damage AOE you obnoxiously have to kill or deal with
runic apex
i think namor is overrated as anti dive
teal mist
his headshots fuckin obliterate too it ain't just about the squids
runic apex
his squids have low enough hp that against dive that have ranged attacks they arent as effective
teal mist
And outranging Bucky would feel better if more than 2 characters could do it, or if more maps than Ysgard Convoy had spaces that long
green junco
his squids have low enough hp that against dive that have ranged attacks they ar...
The thing is that people tend not to have great spatial awareness in low to mid ranks, so slipping a few squids in during a fight can turn a tide
green junco
And outranging Bucky would feel better if more than 2 characters could do it, or...
Hawkeye does wonders at range, along with obliterating most other people if you can get a headshot or two in
teal mist
I'd rather saw off my leg I think
This is what I meant by wishing more than 2 characters that do so existed
green junco
Catching them offguard with a Spiderman combo also works wonders since it tends to kill him faster than he can deal with it
teal mist
And even then, just grabbable and killable, he can play cover, he can play the point, he can play shields
runic apex
id say SG and bucky are a 50 50 fight
teal mist
A Namor and Bucky that just sit with their team in a clump 24/7 is absolute hell
green junco
I play a lot of Adam warlock as one of my mains, and I can pick off namors and buckys pretty daily as long as I know where they are
A couple of the other strategists I play can do some good numbers as well
If they are dealing with me annoying them when they peek, they have less of a chance of grabbing a tank or moving up
teal mist
Sounds like you're catching a lot of healers asleep at the wheel
I know Adam's damage is buffed but getting picks in the middle of a teamfight seems intense
green junco
Even before the buffs, because of his healing cooldowns, it gives me some teamfight power between heals
green junco
And his headshots can chunk while being a laser
Yeah if someone gets cc'ed, a full charged secondary to the head can kill most 250-350s
runic apex
i think mantis has the better damage generally but adam's is more reliable, but also has the better burst
green junco
If I can like half health a peni
runic apex
luna can also clap fliers
teal mist
secondary doesn't do headshot bonus btw
green junco
True true, I usually pop a primary off at the end for the final headshot for the bigger guys
Assuming I don't delete their healthbar
teal mist
the burst is real
it's just annoying that Buck has multiple ways to deal with it
his kit is just absolutely overloaded
runic apex
ive been enjoying uses luna's clap to take out enemy support or fliers
teal mist
i've been enjoying that the fliers seem to have forgot that Iron Fist exists
runic apex
it does result in me not as doing as much healing as others but i think disabinly a enemy support or flier someti escan be worth it
teal mist
I kind of wish it was easier to see if Luna was in Shiftmode or not
teal mist
They all have pink skins and constant sparkles! It's tough
Glad the new IW skins have diversified from Cloak on that note
Pretty much just been Wifemode out there, haven't even really seen Malice
teal mist
The blue skins are so much better as a baseline
Well actually I kinda like the thing's white shorts
but he's a unique fella
runic apex
also they need to change torch's fire for fiendles
green junco
I'm sure they'll patch that
teal mist
honestly his body for friendlies too
without that health bar it'd be absolute "??????"
green junco
I think it's just to give them a rivals specific design and then the color swap skin is your comic reference, but yeah the blue color is much better
I gotta say, I do enjoy the agency that you get when playing strategist compared to OW 2 supports
teal mist
That's what I like about Rocket, he's just a hard working little guy, doesn't have to be pocketing, basically can't, team player, that's fine. the mobility just makes it a whole other game
other supports have a kind of 'i'm being dove, someone help', rocket feels like 'i'm being dove, let's kill them'
runic apex
i still hate that no damage rocket guy
teal mist
I'm more annoyed at the wave of TimTatMan/Necros fans that are on the 'ROCKET SUCKS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE A GAMECHANGING ULT' kick
despite the little bastard having a 55% winrate last season lmao
runic apex
my take is rocket is the single best healer in the game
teal mist
His AoE healing is just like the perfect addition to anyone
runic apex
the others have better ults sure
teal mist
BRB itself is such a goddamn impact
runic apex
but when they arent ulting rocket is just far and away a better healer
timber garnet
The only real downside to Rocket's healing is no burst healing
But aside from that he's great
green junco
Warlocks Ult is my least favorite part (the fact they come back with like a teeny amount of health isn't great) but being able to burst heal myself and kill the diver who's on top of me is great
teal mist
I think it's kind of wild Warlock's Ult is the most expensive when it's the hardest healer one to use and most counterable
teal mist
it can make big swings but like luna can make that swing by activating hers a few seconds before everyone died
it's a different beast for sure though
just the others are so common, nerf is felt though
runic apex
i actully had a game won because of a brb
teal mist
not like every 45 seconds now
runic apex
lapis aspen
my take is rocket is the single best healer in the game
Rocket is the only healer I ever feel somewhat confident in if I'm being forced to solo heal.
green junco
If I have to solo heal, I'm on Luna or Rocket but otherwise it's Adam Warlock most of the time
I dabble in mantis on occasion
runic apex
i mainly play mantis and rocket for healing
but luna has better antiair
which is useful rigth now
teal mist
Warlock probably feasting on flight with his extra damage
green junco
Hell yeah
teal mist
But I can't play a man without mobility
'Rely on Internet Strangers to Survive' why don't i just jump into the sun
green junco
Yeah you have to play a little more conservative with Warlock
teal mist
it's also just from a 'i like to spam my dumb little jump' space outside balance
runic apex
one thing ive noticed when i play SG i jump all the time compared to other charcters
violet ridge
namor is fine, theres stuff you can do about Namor. Shoot his turrets and stuff
...
Bucky felt fine before, not sure why they buffed him
teal mist
I truly don't know why his abilities have to reload his gun when his gun reloads in .25 seconds naturally
raven summit
I think I would rather have a unibeam like thing that I can draw fire shapes with instead of a fire ball.
fallow stump
Because I was aiming a bit too far down I just made the best gameplay of this entire game I think.
twilit belfry
Because I was aiming a bit too far down I just made the best gameplay of this en...
Me when gravity suddenly enhanced ten times
teal mist
That pit is as lethal as the chokepoint, maybe the most Falling Death I see in the game
soft pollen
I sometimes forget it's there until I'm humbly reminded
lapis aspen
one time a Wolverine accidentally (possibly on purpose) dragged into there as Peni
teal mist
Wolverine, Winter Soldier, Spidey, invisible woman.. Suppose technically Human Torch now
It's so pushpullable
runic apex
i once sent an ironfist off a cliff as mantis
teal mist
Sleepy Momentum?
runic apex
yeah
runic apex
you shoul def save that 6k highlight
runic apex
it usally isnt for me unless you turned up the settings
runic apex
its playing fine for me now
oh one tip saw for thor and his ult
use the blue circle attack before you ult
if you hit someone and focus on them with your ult its a free kill usally
runic apex
i got a 6k with SG once
supple heron
wooooooo
runic apex
i also got a pretty good penta the other dya that didn't involve any ults
supple heron
noice
runic apex
SG is who i main
supple heron
from the lord profile i can see that XD
runic apex
shes a lot of fun
supple heron
Thor is my main, but i’m only captain
supple heron
as someone who played her to for the event, i definitely was
runic apex
even high level players don't really play her right
raven summit
supple heron
LMAO
teal mist
I do hope Jeff gets some buffs, I miss seeing the lad as often
green junco
I do want to pick up Jeff more
Getting the bubble tech right makes for crazy rollouts and maneuvering
sly yew
Do yall think people got mad when squirrel girl defeated thanos for a gag? 
sly yew
asking cause in some communities people get mad for no reason
sand kelp
Squirrel Girl is a very unserious girl character, and that rankles the obvious peanut gallery, but those are the people that would punch their own shadow to own the libs, so their opinion meant nothing to begin with.
Outside of the usual outrage farming, she's not taken very seriously, which is her whole shtick, so it's fine aiui
runic apex
Which is kinda funny when you think about it ingame as well, most think she is a b-c rank charcter but i think she is much higher when you truely use all her strengths, ive had a few people ask me to swap off her just to be silenced by the end
green junco
SG was built to annoy powerscalers
lilac snow
She’s the Unbeatable Squirrel Girl
green junco
*annoy the annoying powerscalers
twilit belfry
Ironically a lot of powerscalers love Squirrel Girl
A reminder that its a silly hobby
lapis aspen
Which is kinda funny when you think about it ingame as well, most think she is a...
Squirrel girl is really good and I think a lot of people who underestimate her do it because they don't play against SG who know how to aim her gun.
lapis aspen
Just got out of a match where Punisher Turret didnt just shoot into my Cap Shield. We just stared at one another until one of our team mates arrived
sly yew
lol
runic apex
Spiderman feels like a wierdly common lord to me
teal mist
Asks for a bit of dedication, but also attracts people that really want to play the character that is The Hardest...
Also basically gets to play Singleplayer and not think about his team, it attracts folks
runic apex
i think this is the worst game ive ever seen
teal mist
that is a brutal amount of damage from the enemy team
just in terms of output/second i mean
runic apex
that jeff absoutely was not healing
teal mist
the Storm Nerf was a love tap and she enhances her friends more now
runic apex
also her combo with torch is brokenly overpowered
like the strongest ult in the game x2
ive seen it double or more the time she can stay in her ult
teal mist
Yeah it's completely brutal
And it's kind of the main use for Torches' ult which is a bummer
it's pretty solid area denial but idk
basically exists for Storm
runic apex
yeah storm alreayd pretty strong basicly got buffed insanely
teal mist
and she wasn't relying on specific threshholds like Hela so lightly tapping her damage does nothin
lapis aspen
Spiderman feels like a wierdly common lord to me
Spiderman is a very common lord, I think the most common Lord I've seen is C&D in Comp
soft pollen
Do ai matches give progression? Just might a lot of folks go into there and instalock spider-man
teal mist
How much effort he takes is the point for some folks, they gotta show off they're playing The Toughest Character, big flashy play potential...
green junco
Lords aren't hard to get if you actively are working to get it
Compared to like masteried in league
teal mist
Still wild to see Things and Johnny already though
Swear there was a Sue Lord like day 2
runic apex
ive only seen i think 2 other SG lords?
green junco
I don't have any lords since I just haven't looked at the quests and bounce characters based on need
Plus I don't no life this game either
runic apex
I have one lord one captain and a a few knights
lapis aspen
I've got a bunch of the spray rank in different characters, and then the unique KO prompt for most healers.
I'm almost lord with Jeff because I played him a bunch in S0, and occasionally whip him out in quick play
fallow stump
Ngl I've heard people say magik is fine but it feels like it's unfair with how much skill you need to be good with her and her ult just feels so much less good than other ults.
I feel like she desvers buffs but maybe I'm just bad
fallow stump
Yeah
That's feels the issue here
Sure she's good or whatever if you've put a ton of effort in her but I have to try so hard
But I really wanna be good with magik cus she just like me fr :3
runic apex
i think maybe a good way to take her is make her less of a combo focused one, cause i don't feel like combo melee works well
its too prone to one mistake you die
fallow stump
OMG YES
runic apex
but if you make the combo too good it just feels bad
but say if they reduced the combo damage and gave her more charges
fallow stump
When I played her on launch I played her as a like idk the correct word but I'd say brawler. I could just get in there and stay alive through the health gained on doing damage and then be enough of a distraction that my team could help me take them out. Like she got better the more and denser the enemies were.
But nowadays I find her really difficult.
One of my big complaints is just that healing is so strong. I'll do my combo on some guy and he would've died if it hadn't been for healing yknow
runic apex
thats the other issue with combos its very easy for them just to get nerf/buffed out
at least with SG you can just go "oh then try again"
but with magik your just dead
fallow stump
Also this was funny with the black panther looking at me like "what you gonna do now"
runic apex
how are you recording these
fallow stump
Playstation
fallow stump
Weird people been saying that more n more lately. They're fine for some n don't work for others
But only been hearing it the past couple days
runic apex
also it doesnt help that fliers all got buffed
fallow stump
I'd have to be perfect to kill a flier
sand kelp
Weird people been saying that more n more lately. They're fine for some n don't ...
yeah my discord has been doing that for a couple weeks or so now
fallow stump
I do hope they buff magik in some way eventually.
cunning nacelle
Magik did get buffed this patch with the energy cost of her ultimate being reduced
raven summit
Ironman countering Johnny is BS!
Tony is clearly a steel type I should have stab!
teal mist
Will say if you manage to hit the shots he can melt 250 folks but it's so damn awkward
also The Beam is so. Not awkward, so at deficit
green junco
Counterpoint on magik, fuck the fliers, harass the strategists 
teal mist
Counterpoint on magik, fuck the fliers, harass the strategists <:devious:9950501...
shaking hands with The Thing
green junco
Also pulling off a combo with Magik or BP, especially when you dog your way through a 1v3 makes you feel so good
I do it for Chadwick
teal mist
I don't have the actions-per-minute to properly Panther but making a strategist simply Not Exist as Magik is so satisfying
runic apex
SG is good at killing support yet most don't attempt it with her
teal mist
now just give her a little mantle, doesn't need a double jump, just please.. my dash, i want it for murder, not hedge climbing
runic apex
luna has a big jump when she skates
fallow stump
Counterpoint on magik, fuck the fliers, harass the strategists <:devious:9950501...
Yeah I love when I come out of nowhere to kill them.
But then also sometimes they'll get healed and survive my combo and it's just so over :(
green junco
If the strategists can't play the game, you are winning the match regardless
teal mist
Will say I love Rocket but his skill floor is low enough that he's my 'well I'm lagging' character, you might not be optimized but as long as you know the jist of the combat you help out
green junco
As long as you're doing something, you're helping, but you may not be able to carry very easily
soft pollen
I love Rocket too but if I had a nickel for every time I got yelled at for playing him I'd be able to afford the battle pass for the next few seasons.
teal mist
YouTube has poisoned the people's minds on the poor little guy
They just can't escape the Ult, like that's the only combat in the game that happens
mild pine
in my opinion rocket has two ults, his one free revive and the damage boost
considering the cool down on the revive
raven summit
I'm really iffy on Blade's design.
wanton salmon
he looks so weird compared to most previous designs
modern blade is just movie blade but his rivals head doesnt even look like any classic blade even with the different hair
twilit belfry
I like the cornrows
glass pollen
new ko voiceline
sand oracle
I have so little clue what paying taxes has to do with robbing a bank
did he just want to say that
timber garnet
I like to think it has nothing to do with Taxes
And Hulk is just being weird
But Bullseye follows his commands anyways
sand oracle
oh yeah you do have to pay taxes on stolen goods
glass pollen
tbh what would you say to a 5 meter man with radiation powers
and can punch one half of you off
green junco
It's from Marvel Adventures: Avengers #32
Marvel Adventures is made for younger children
fallow stump
Can't believe I didn't get mvp lol
So close
Still haven't gotten mvp ever since I've been relearning magik
green junco
"No matter how powerful you are, how heroic you are, or how beloved you are, you still have to pay taxes. And when the IRS comes knocking on the door to Avengers Tower, it causes all sorts of problems. Luckily, the Avengers can avoid the problematic filing of their real names by helping the IRS collect back taxes on a few deadbeats. Unfortunately,
those deadbeats include Bullseye, Man-Bull, the Absorbing Man, Whirlwind, and a certain highly-successful web-
designer named Oog---and these guys DON'T want to pay! Action! Adventure! Taxes?"
supple heron
Can't believe I didn't get mvp lol
maybe it's because the thing was blocking more damage?
fallow stump
It's funny that all I needed to understand magik again was 1 single meme
fallow stump
maybe it's because the thing was blocking more damage?
Maybe yea
glass pollen
It's funny that all I needed to understand magik again was 1 single meme
ballin?
fallow stump
https://stupidpenisx.com/krembeni/status/1893938533259149580?t=b8ti204c53l9CQLzGjRlRg&s=19 it's this video
severe zephyr
Magik players are secretly playing DBD while everyone else plays Overwatch FFS lmao
green junco
Magik tbf, is scary af in the comics
glass pollen
reminder she is the suicide squad of the X men
fallow stump
Punisher player without object permanence.
violet ridge
Marvel Adventures is made for younger children
Explains why bullseye didn’t just kill everyone like normal
teal mist
Magik Should Be More Buff, but otherwise incredibly cool
steady flame
"my mutant power is to teleport into actual hell"
maiden radish
Might be the greatest bad power to great feat ratio
green junco
I wouldn't call her power bad
maiden radish
I just mean like, if someone came to rescue you and they said their power was to teleport into hell you might be a little nervous
green junco
Depends on what I'm dealing with but if it's marvel, I'd take it
fallow stump
Magik Should Be More Buff, but otherwise incredibly cool
I'd like if she got to survive some more yeah or if people couldn't survive the combos as easily with things. Like invisible woman jumping out and going invisible or someone getting a bit of healing throughout my combo which makes them survive it
runic apex
i think magik and wolverine probally both need nerfs that also result in easier to use
magick has a combo that is good when you pull it off but it requires burning her entire fuel
melee combo i don't think works that well in the game and she would be better off as a brawler
as for wovlerine i think his pounce should be made less powerful but also easier to use
magik's dash feels wierd and it really should have a larger hitbox
fallow stump
I liked when the game released that magik could be played as a brawler and that was fun but I've also liked the whole combo style
It's just hard to play her though
I liked her as the brawler that could survive in a 3-6v1 just because she would deal enough damage to heal and stay alive in the mess of enemies. That's what it felt like on release when people didn't know how to deal with magik
I also quite like the gremlin playstyle that she has nowadays
green junco
Honestly, I enjoy her more like a hard hitting slippery guy
Though I don't think she does too worse as an offtank type to split some aggro
Just have to pick your fights
green junco
She definitly requires more skill to utilizer her fully, but when you do, she cooks
fallow stump
Moreso that it feels rewarding to play her but I feel like other characters can outperform if a player of "equal skill" in both characters played either of em
Like high skill gameplay is cool n all when it's rewarded too but it's not as rewarded as I'd like.
green junco
I mean looking at the hero meta right now, Magik is doing very well
Which I know is not a great metric for individual games but like, I don't really think that a equal skill level like punisher or something will do as much as a magik
She just has a lot more going for her that can make her a lot more oppressive
cunning nacelle
Magik has an excellent winrate at higher tiers and a lot of tier lists put her squarely at the top of the DPS hero pile
green junco
sure, they'll be some characters that will do better generally like a namor at the same level but picking fights or adjusting characters can make a difference there
Along with dogging on everyone else
fallow stump
is "balance of effort"
This basically.
I suspect that at high tier people play to win (cus they're in high tier) so anyone who even picks magik will be sure of their choice there and confident in their skill there. Doesn't much reflect the average experience I think.
green junco
I find people tend to play to win regardless of rank, just because everyone wants to rank up usually. And of course if you want to main someone that is mechanically trickier, you would need to put some extra labbing in to get the stuff down right
Or even play them enough to learn the little quirks that you may not have been aware of like 10 hours ago
fallow stump
What I mean is in average quickplay you'll see not great magiks
Whereas in high tier no one who's not great with magik will play her cus of how difficult she is
green junco
Well right, its quickplay
fallow stump
The high tier people that do play magik are confident in their skill
green junco
Im talking from purely a comp perspective, regardless of rank
Even in quickplay shes 5th highest for winrate
runic apex
charcters can sometimes perform better than they actully are due to things like the current meta or only played by a smaller base of dedicated people.
fallow stump
At low skill scorch is good
green junco
In QP for every one good spidey I play with, I usually see like 8 more ass ones, but he's really tough, and people play QP to learn or just have fun
fallow stump
At high skill scorch is bad
At low skill ronin is bad and high skill ronin is good.
Now replace ronin with magik and realise that titanfall 2 and rivals aren't perfectly comparable but it's more the idea.
fallow stump
charcters can sometimes perform better than they actully are due to things like ...
Also this
green junco
I personally don't think making characters flat in terms of mechanic skill or character knowledge is great
Removes a lot of the character that these characters have
fallow stump
I want magik to me mechanically difficult but also have it reward thaf. Whcih it does pretty well already.
teal mist
I wouldn't mind if Spidey and Magik were tuned away from the Oneshot Combo business a bit but also with healers being potent you kind of need that now and again
it just can make the experience a little binary
fallow stump
Main issue is just that healing is so strong in this game that sometimes someone will survive the combo of death because they got a little bit of healing.
And it's incredibly frustrating lol
teal mist
Spiderman without venom just is Mostly Annoying
unless he's Very coordinated with team
green junco
And in fights like that, I just go around them and kill the strategists
green junco
If Im BPing it up and I can't assasinate the dps, I'm running behind to harass the squishy healers
teal mist
I do wish the Thing's Grounded Zone Thing worked more on him
because gosh it ruins Panther
fallow stump
And in fights like that, I just go around them and kill the strategists
Well it's not that easy usually as well and besides in the situation usually it's that I see a single player that I can combo to death and then they get a little healing from an unknown healer I was unaware of.
Also that magiks ult just doesn't feel great
Feels more like a death sentence.
teal mist
Magik also eats uncoordinated teams like popcorn is sort of a thing
She's.. very potent
fallow stump
Especially when you wanna play it more silent n sneaky and quick kill someone with the combo and then you go "RAAAHH DARKCHILD" and everyone knows where you are.
Magik is fun n cool n all it's just that I have too many enemies getting away on a sliver of health.
green junco
Every character also yells their stuff too, but it just matters if you can game sense it out to not get popped to hell
Like when the witch pops her ult and starts scaring people to look for her, then you pop your ult and start stabbing
fallow stump
With other characters (unless you're scarlet witch that one just feels like a total death sentence) you don't have to be as close to enemies.
teal mist
I still think Spidey's ult is a bit cursed
green junco
Well right because she's ranged, but magik also has the longest reach for a melee assasin type
green junco
I still think Spidey's ult is a bit cursed
it's hitbox is funky, I can tell you that
And darkschild adds an extra 4 meters to that reach
fallow stump
But like cap gets increased health or healing or something like that during his ult doesn't he?
teal mist
That's kind of Cap's whole ult though
runic apex
its basicly lucio's ult
teal mist
He doesn't get a MegaDevil Sword
green junco
he gets shield at 50/s
green junco
and more shields from hitting people
fallow stump
Magiks usually die in their ult for a reason in my experience.
Whcih is that everyone kills her
runic apex
oh i thought it was just a flat big juice of health for him and those near him
green junco
I was looking at the wrong stats
runic apex
i had a thought about rockets brb
green junco
Yea he gets 150 bonus health adn gives allies 100, and then gets 100 for ever second after
fallow stump
Anyway im just a skill issue but I do hope they make it a lil easier so that not as many people will just be able to get away from my combo
runic apex
i think it shoudl be changed to automaticly give shields in range but still be charge based
so instead of throwing packs it would just zap a nearby ally within range
fallow stump
It's so infuriating when invisible woman goes invisible on a sliver of health.
green junco
I find holding an dash charge or leading/holding the knock up depending on the person helps them not get away
fallow stump
I try to guess where they are or listen for their steps but they usually get away
green junco
Like if I portal once and the invis woman pushes me, then I go for the knockup spinaround
knockup spin melee button main attack
teal mist
Cap's E/Shield Toss Ability will bounce to an Invisible person in range, immensely fun to counter their little escape
fallow stump
I usually open with the charged ranged then the dash then the melee then quick melee and if more then the portal melee slash
green junco
Cap being able to independently use your melee after tossing your shield adds a new layer to cap gameplay
Plus I love animation cancelling
And that's part of what makes magik combos hit even harder
fallow stump
The Knocking them in the sky does work to not let em get away especially that damn shark but invisible woman as a particular example will just use the double jump to turn invisible as soon as she can and so far I've only once been able to guess where she went.
green junco
The strat is to wait for something else to make her use it and then jump her ass
or bait her out
green junco
Yeah when Im playing a melee dps type guy and sue runs away at one health, shes no longer my problem and I target someone else
What is she going to do, reveal herself to heal them?
teal mist
I think I've got an invisible woman once with a Shot in the Dark Iron Fist Kicky
and yeah that's the real swing of things
like jeff running away
'ok, you're not doing your job anymore'
/beats up magneto
green junco
That's how I play warlock, if I'm not healing, I'm headshotting the enemy strategists
Or just harassing them
If they can't peek, they can't heal
teal mist
He hurts so bad now
green junco
He hurt good before, now its even better
teal mist
same with magneto tbh, that 5 is felt
teal mist
Magik's dash could maybe use less ??????? of a hitbox though
But that's the skill check of it idk
runic apex
i dont consider it a skill check when spiderman's uppercut exists
teal mist
yeah that thing's messed up
runic apex
either make its hitbox wider
it give it a little bit of auto aim
and i do mean a litte bit
correction might be a more correct term
green junco
Spiderman are always my focus when I play hitscans like warlock
If they hate me, I'm doing it right
teal mist
I don't play hitscans generally so Spidermen are cursed beasts
runic apex
I realized there is a really easy way to beat spiderman pretty much everytime as SG
just wait for them to grab you
green junco
I play a bit of everything so I can adapt as I go
teal mist
None of 'em grab me is the problem really
Hela's.. closest but is a little Hold Left Click Toward Heads
runic apex
yeah i don't play histscan much either
usally punisher if i do
and usally just to shutdown fliers
teal mist
Been trying Starlord and again wondering why he needed a buff
His dps is fuckin ludicrous
runic apex
ive played pretty much only SG in comp except once i changed to punisher when they tried to counter SG with double flier
yeah he didnt need one
teal mist
At least it's very.. mild?
like it doesn't charge any faster or anything
But Starlord Mantis Warlock is so much and so much damage
runic apex
I made them regret double flier in that match very quickly
green junco
Yeah his buff is just flying a little longer
fallow stump
When I get good enough with magik I'm gonna make those fliers regret existing.
I can already take over half their health but then I usually mess up and I'm back on the ground before they're dead
green junco
For reference, thats 2 more seconds of boosting
fallow stump
But I did have a match with an enemy iron man that I sniped out the sky like twice with the ranged attack and forced to retreat a couple times with my combo
green junco
hexed niche
I can only imagine the no reticle Adam player is eating good rn
twilit belfry
I can only imagine the no reticle Adam player is eating good rn
What happened
hexed niche
Nah just the introduction of another flyer for him to snipe
lapis aspen
just found out Bucky can hook grab you out of a Scarlette Witch ult
twilit belfry
just found out Bucky can hook grab you out of a Scarlette Witch ult
Scarlet Witch has become the biggest Fraud of the roster
lapis aspen
I love her, I think she's got a really fun kit but her ult is just so stoppable
When it goes off it's reallyy good so it's fair so many things can stop it, but it's annoying just how many things can.
sly yew
What do u mean fraud?
mild pine
Promised power and easy to stop
Though this is why magneto and Wanda are a powerful combo
green junco
I do feel like a vaporizing ult does feel balanced when it's easy to stop if you find her or she makes herself exposed
twilit belfry
What do u mean fraud?
Feels like she fell off the most from the start of the game
green junco
no one will be on more fraudwatch than widow 
sand oracle
I love her, I think she's got a really fun kit but her ult is just so stoppable
the secret other half of her team up with magneto is his ability to shield her during it
runic apex
i her ult is also better if communated before hand so healer know to focus heal on her
lapis aspen
I run into CC messing up my ults more than anything else, or just straight wiffing them and getting no one
Which is why it's annoying when unexpected CC pops up, because usually I'd be more careful about it
teal mist
There's just sort of a lot of hard CC floating around
green junco
Or you have jeff grab the enemy team and spit them into the witch ult
you gotta wombo combo them
sly yew
If it can work well with teamwork i say it's weaknesses are quite alright to have
runic apex
green junco
A lot of this games scary stuff can be stopped with a small level of coordination
or just being too good
mild pine
I know it's only against AI
but I had a "right I need to farm kills" moment
so I pick Squirrel girl
32
and it ended half way
girl's a hammer and the nuts are a nail
or something
runic apex
my most elims in a single match was 73 with SG
runic apex
sly yew
my most elims in a single match was 73 with SG
Thats insane
U must be like... King of the squirrels
twilit belfry
sly yew
Deserved
runic apex
i just ran into the most annoying starlord
the entire thing they did all game was sprint up and press e
anytime they used theihr pimary fire they just missed every shot
lapis aspen
Every time I see a Starlord like that I just think about
raven summit
frigid moat
Keeping this here for when Deadpool is announced
hexed niche
What are y’all gonna do when pheonix comes out, you kill her and you hear “I CANT CONTROL IT!”
steady flame
Press all the cooldowns I guess
lapis aspen
considering how ults work in Rivals, 50/50 you can just web her out of it
violet ridge
Could be like hulk form change on death
mild pine
Throw myself face first at it like a good moon knight
green junco
The moon calls me
mild pine
I always find it interesting who can move and attack during their ult. Like luna snow is doing fortnite emotes while their team fights and dies, meanwhile mantis is slugging dudes in the face.
mild pine
Yeah, it's interesting to see
SG has a fire and forget, or burst tool depending on your skill, while human torch is an install, and iron man and Wanda have a long animation nuke
runic apex
is SG the only damageing ult that you can still normal mode in without a loss in power
mild pine
Wouldn't you say MK has that as well?
mild pine
It is much more limited than SG though, who causes some damn panic with her ult
Cause it moves so well, meanwhile MK has a moment of panic then people clearly can tell the boundary
runic apex
i will say sometimes it just goes whrere you don't want
and i do think its a nult you need to combo with
if you just throw it out it rarely does much
mild pine
Ha, yeah seen that myself. Cliff squirrels...
mild pine
Or in tight quarters!
lapis aspen
I need to stop trying to jump over the Squirrel ult
I think I can jump over it every time, it's not worked once
runic apex
its better to destroy it or jump ontop of something
mild pine
Ever hit that corridor on the last of the spider zero map? It's terror in a tunnel
runic apex
which one the city or the garden
mild pine
Garden
runic apex
i think i did that once
mild pine
Just coming out from the garden and into the temple proper, the real tight tunnel on the right
runic apex
oh that tunnel
runic apex
im suddely wierdly reminded one round where i had a lord MK say i was no skill playing SG when the reason i kept killing him was he would sit up high on a ledge far from the back and just throw anks so id just root him(because he is standing dead still) and kill him
what is the fastest you have gotten an ult charged from the start of a match
mines i think 60 seconds
and on that same match i got it again 30 seconds later
lapis aspen
My fastest ult charged is probably a C&D ult on a convoy map. Just in one of those initial fights that's never ends
hexed niche
I really want a Wolverine skin that has like, classic brown and yellow color scheme
I think it’s my favorite wolverine costume
lapis aspen
Peni and Cap are so good on two of the Asgard maps
If you can get your map onto the enemies side in Bifrost Garden and they don't switch flier, you can just dominate as Peni
And the flanker route in Odins Archive just lets cap catch healer unaware so easily
runic apex
i ran into a peni that woudl just put random mines in randm spots
lapis aspen
They probably had their reasons, even if they didnt make sense
sly yew
magik opening portals to hell makes me think of minecraft
lapis aspen
That'd be much slower movement tech
green junco
That's what nightcrawler does
He hops into the brimstone dimension and warps somewhere else
green junco
A lot of voice lines got leaked
Current character interactions related to: The Hood, Captain Marvel, Jean Grey, Angela, Deadpool, Hit Monkey, Emma Frost, and MODOK
And hellfire gala might be the next big event
lapis aspen
https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelRivalsLeaks/s/GwyYBS9jhH
the no response to Rockets line is so funny
runic apex
sadly no gambit
maiden radish
Even if we have voice lines I still refuse to believe any leaks. If you can get me casting I'll believe it
green junco
Also new game mode was leaked as well called clone rumble where each team picks one character for the whole team
6 strange vs 6 loki
lapis aspen
That sounds like it could be either really fun or a nightmare
maiden radish
6 venoms might ruin me
raven summit
So many inches of Venom.
lapis aspen
6 iron fists
sand kelp
So many inches of Venom.
9' 6", or 114 inches to be exact :P
runic apex
Also new game mode was leaked as well called clone rumble where each team picks ...
i feel like this won't work without some changes of some kind just cause of healers
green junco
I don't think it will be balanced by any means just because that's how any of these team shooters end up being with these types of gamemodes
6 wide reeds rapidly approaching your location
sly yew
I mean those are supposed to be silly fun are they not?
green junco
Yeah it's just a for fun thing
mild pine
Six moon knights hit you once and kill your entire team
green junco
One magneto absorbing all the moon
mild pine
The moon ult doesn't get absorbed I think
sand kelp
six hulks command grabbing your entire team
mild pine
Six johnny storms making the ground unwalkable
green junco
Me when I also pick a flying character
steady flame
I think the funniest thing would be 6 Lokis. You all get 2 clones each so you could have 18 Lokis on the field
sand kelp
the loki firing squad
twilit belfry
I think the funniest thing would be 6 Lokis. You all get 2 clones each so you co...
No ults to make use of tho
lapis aspen
enemy team might not be loki
steady flame
Imagine though, 36 Lokis
lapis aspen
Literally nothing but his main attack
6 caps v 6 caps might make it impossible to win a match
green junco
Seeing friendly healthbar versus just a torch in the air is a good giveaway
runic apex
glass pollen
12 stranges killing your fucking pc if the portal didnt had global cooldown
lapis aspen
They're using evil magic to force me to play widow
timber garnet
So called "free thinkers" when a cowboy appears
sly yew
Yee haw 
fervent pumice
hexed niche
I love the C&D skin
twilit belfry
Dapper
green junco
Also happy to see their own take on an angry agent venom mimic
lapis aspen
spider man can do his grab attack throuhg loki clone shift
glass pollen
It doesn’t really look like Agent Venom
at least it isnt specifically agent, since the name is "lingering imprint"
sly yew
who's this lady?
lapis aspen
Elsa Bloodstone I think, don't klnow much about her though
sly yew
Thank u
green junco
Yeah thats Elsa Bloodstone, she's a monster hunter and daughter of an immortal bounty hunter which she got this Bloodstone choker, that gives her superhuman abilities along with a healing factor and energy projection, and being immune to vampire bites
sly yew
She sounds cool i hope she isnt like a real bad person tho 
sometimes that's the case with cool looking characters..
green junco
She's more of a hero
sly yew
yay
green junco
She's actually a blonde naturally but during one of her first hunting tests by her father when she was a kid, she took too long to kill it and some of the blood got in her hair
Her father told her to not clean and shave her hair as punishment and it changed her hair color permanently
She's sorta buffy the vampire slayer coded but her creators never saw an episode before they made her funnily enough
green junco
Yeah he kinda sucked
She's pretty sick though, and does the right thing
She also has a bunch of relics she uses to fight monsters and stuff
violet ridge
who's this lady? <:vicksyAww:1324105444926689413>
She’s a character I really want to see
violet ridge
Yeah thats Elsa Bloodstone, she's a monster hunter and daughter of an immortal b...
Recently the bloodstone got embedded in her hand and let’s her shoot blasts from it
There’s basically three ‘eras’ of Elsa despite only being 20 ish years old
First you have her og Buffy style teen monster hunter, then the next wave dual shotguns and choker, then the single pump shotgun and bloodstone in hand
She’s also werewolf be night’s ex
I really want to see her and dd even if they’ll be dps and I play tank
sly yew
she sounds really cool!
violet ridge
I’d love a season with her and ghost rider
twilit belfry
Blade fans realizing they will never get British Blade in mainstream media
teal mist
I feel like I'd be less annoyed with Namor if every Lord didn't have an ego the size of Texas, idk what it is about the dude
WS Mains are usually distressingly quiet and effective which does track.. actually same with Namor's ego, I guess. Characters emphasizing their canon vibes >:|a
runic apex
the worst are spiderman mains
green junco
You aren't a lord unless you're rping your character
runic apex
i think most of the few sg lords i see under use her potential
glass pollen
violet ridge
I hope they continue to spotlight strange and uneeappreiated characters
mild pine
They HAVE to have at least one Great Lake Avenger
that isn't Squirrel girl
Someone suggested Doorman, who has access to the dark dimneions like Cloak does
Or Slapstick, who's basically a cartoon character
lapis aspen
Clone rumble is fun but it should really be only one round
as the best of three format makes the characters get old really quick
hexed niche
They HAVE to have at least one Great Lake Avenger
Isn’t Hawkeye pretty often apart of the team with Kate?
somber crown
I think that's West Coast Avengers
clarification; Clint shows up with both GLA and WCA, but Kate is more of a WCA character
hexed niche
Ah ok
glass pollen
also you have shows like Earths mightiest heroes and there is the MCU were he is one of the main members
twilit belfry
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
My 30 loki dreams has been crushed
36*
Luna, Strange, Loki I gey
The others?
sand oracle
I don't really get it given mantis dodged it
adam I get though because how multiple adam ults going off at once works sound awful
lapis aspen
Mantis gets through because she's an off healer I think
fervent pumice
I don't really get it given mantis dodged it
Maybe healing output wasn't that concerning when multiplied?
sand oracle
probably, but I figured cd, luna, and invisible woman all ate it because they have a proper healer ult
which mantis also has, and rocket has absurd healing but dodged the ban
vast geyser
You can murder people significantly easier through mantis ult. Especially as a damage boosted mantis
I would imagine it is less "they have a healer ult" and more "would the game go on forever because no one can kill each other"
lapis aspen
Rocket getting through is definetly a bit weird
vast geyser
How would Rocket be weird in that context
lapis aspen
Rocket is an outlier in my mind, because he's the only pure healer allowed
Except from Jeff who I think was let in because Mascot reasons
vast geyser
His gun out dps's his healing and his ult is a damage boost
I think the concerns of stalemating as was probably the case for others isn't an issue
You appreciate Rocket dps when a Peni runs up on you and you can remove her entire healthbar in two seconds
twilit belfry
"Rocket has a gun"
Is something I need to remind myself
soft pollen
Clone mode is rough when the whole team goes Peni and makes the point uninhabitable.
glass pollen
Dont tell me the spider mines go around OTHER nests or webs
lapis aspen
as far as I can tell, all deployables only effect your own ones
Like a Moonknight can only use their own ankhs
timber garnet
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
No crashing computers, it seems 
Imagine the Multiverse of Madness we could have gotten
twilit belfry
Giving agamoto insomnia with how much we're opening their eyes
twilit belfry
we are in a fucking time out
Nah, 2 stranges hits all of them
Another pair quickly ults after the 1st one is done, and then hits all of them again
Rinse and repeat 4 more times
fallow stump
I like jeff
He's so cute I can't hate him
But I also love to hunt him down as magik when he's on the enemy team
I go GRAAAAAGHHRRGGGG in my mind
green junco
Seems like good bans all around tbh
teal mist
I cast Destroy Your Processor
green junco
sly yew
I go GRAAAAAGHHRRGGGG in my mind
lovely
mild pine
just had a clone match full on slug fest with both sides mostly being ben grimm
clobbering one another
timber garnet
What time was it
mild pine
by god it was the clobbering hour
fervent pumice
runic apex
i wish SG would get a skin i liked
twilit belfry
YEAAAH, PRESIDENT LOKI IS BACK BABY!
green junco
STORM SKIN AND LOKI
steady flame
Damn I'd vote for him
"I"m going to lie to your face and you're going to love it" is the most honest campaign platform I've seen in years
twilit belfry
"I"m going to lie to your face and you're going to love it" is the most honest c...
- Dr. Eggman
green junco
Give them a limited flight I think
Like maybe a super chunky warmachine
Or Ultimate Green Goblin
twilit belfry
I imagine it being really good mobility
green junco
I just imagine it as maybe being a ability combo or a brief vertical mobility
twilit belfry
I just imagine it as maybe being a ability combo or a brief vertical mobility
Wolvie's ult as a weaker ability
Without the toss up
Wait a fucking minute
Doesnt strange do this
green junco
Yup
fervent pumice
You gotta be specific about what type of flying tank you want it to be
A main tank like mag/ strange
Or off-tank/bruiser like Thor or the Thing
lapis aspen
completely on purpose 4ko with Peni
vast geyser
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