He doesn’t have any movement or CC like other tanks without his walls
#Mahvel Rivals baby
hexed niche
green junco
Wolvie does more damage to tanks yeah
And yeah kidnapping people is great
He does really well teh higher up you go on the elo ladder
sly yew
Wolverine hides under my bed at night 
lapis aspen
Wolverine is good, but he's pretty easy to counter
any form of anti dive and he really suffers
sly yew
i do like playing Peni
green junco
So I wonder, since the event missions ends on the 7th, I assume the plot will advance and we will get new things
The season pass still has 60 days ish on it
And the lunar new year ends in 2 weeks
violet ridge
What maps would people like to see added?
Savage land, old man Logan with spidermobile and days of future past vs age of apocalypse would be fun
sand kelp
battleworld and knowhere would be fun as hell.
counter-earth and latveria would Also be fun as hell
main parcel
Knowhere, definitely. We already have 5 GotG, might as well give them a map.
mild pine
Knowhere would be great yeah
Collector's smashed up archives, uhhhhh... Limbo, but perhaps with portal travel
Cause I'd love for the fight to travel through parts of the Abbey from Midnight Suns
main parcel
Krakoa maybe for X-Men and to get a jungle/island themed map.
Or, alternatively, Asteroid M.
teal mist
Psylocke being 5 star difficulty perhaps the funniest joke ingame
Feels like I'm carrying an automatic shotgun
mild pine
I would love more travelling or push able scenery.
Get something moving on the map that isn't just building or falling
teal mist
I did keep wishing for functional subway in the new map
lapis aspen
pushing a convoy through a train which travels in a small loop might be interesting
lapis aspen
Trying to figure out if I suck at cap or if my teams just doesnt know how to capitalise on my attempted cap plays
mild pine
A little of both is probably the issue? Specially because Cap is meant to be one of the more independent tanks that goes in and smacks a backliner then runs away to get a health pack
teal mist
The Tragedy of Tanking is that you kind of need your team to work with the space you create, and a lot a lot of pub lobbies are scared to push up
they're either all hiding around a corner or spread to the far corners of the map as three different dive DPS
lapis aspen
A little of both is probably the issue? Specially because Cap is meant to be one...
I've definetly been bullying the back line, but I'm trying to return to me my team for healing which might be where I'm going wrong
Bullying the backline is very fun, although annoyingly its not something that really gets hard numbers. Like I don't know how much potential healing I'm actually blocking by pushing healers away from their team
mild pine
Yeah I get you there
I would say don't retreat back to your team, push in, bully, run into side passages and take their healing
teal mist
Eventually people might stop falling for the 'Run Around The Corner And Heal' technique but as long as they don't Cap and Iron Fist shall have a good time
I will say Invisible Women are learning to use the Pull more effectively
First few weeks was usually just getting pushed to safety
mild pine
The power of SUCC
violet ridge
Knowhere, definitely. We already have 5 GotG, might as well give them a map.
I mean Klyntar is serving as that
violet ridge
Cause I'd love for the fight to travel through parts of the Abbey from Midnight ...
should be noted that the Abbey used to be Ghost Rider's base of operations in ye old days, so its not completely out of the question as a map
mild pine
I mean we got Magik too
and Blade is definitely going to show up
that's most of the midnight suns
violet ridge
For the game, comics wise there’s been four different sons teams with very different casts
First was blade, morbius, Johnny blaze, Danny ketch, doctor strange and a bunch of C listers
Second was Morbius, Man Thing, Jennifer Kale, Werewolf by Night and daimon helstrum
Third was Strange, dr.voodoo, moon knight, Elsa bloodstone, iron fist, man thing, Nico minoru and scarlet spider
teal mist
Wait the first team had two different ghost riders?
violet ridge
Johnny was powerless at that point but got them back for the team’s second outing
violet ridge
It does change a lot yeah
teal mist
Also why can they never get the impact in Winter Soldier MVP screens right
lilac snow
I love the simultaneous unrelated existence of Johnny Blaze and Johnny the Human Torch
frigid moat
7 SVPs in a row on ranked...
green junco
I love the simultaneous unrelated existence of Johnny Blaze and Johnny the Human...
Human Torch was like one of THE original marvel characters from way back in 1939. Meanwhile Blaze debuted in 1972
violet ridge
Nice job
green junco
Funnily enough, Stan Lee came up with the name Johnny Blaze
green junco
Which johnny
mild pine
yues
violet ridge
Storm got my names mixed up
sour forge
storm's name is ororo
green junco
Yeah Ororo
sly yew
I like Ghost rider 
violet ridge
Johnny storm is the ff one, I get you’re doing a bit though
sly yew
Not really
I just noticed we were talking about characters we like
So i mentioned one i like
frigid moat
I have a dread that they will add Ghost Rider but its robbie reyes only and that his ult is summoning the car instead of a ghost rider whose kit is built around the thing hes named after
teal mist
I think it might be tough to have a character always on a motorcycle
frigid moat
Tbf it's a motorcycle that climbs walls
Give it a jump and its basically captain america
wanton salmon
I think it might be tough to have a character always on a motorcycle
yeah ghost rider on bike is just hulk but fast instead of jumps
teal mist
I guess he's about as wide as a cycle is long
I'm just trying to think of how it'd animate
teal mist
Unicycle Ghost Rider
lilac snow
Could do horse Ghost Rider, there's a few versions of those
green junco
Caleb is so fucking cool
Former slave who bought his way out, took care of a confederate lieutenant out of the goodness of his heart, and he stuck around to help his family with is farm instead of leaving to continute the war. Once the confederate left, a gang killed him because they felt superior to him. Caleb came back as the Spirit of Vengeance and tracked down the gang to kill them all, even when they came back as the undead
hexed niche
Wonder if they’ll ever make a permanently flying tank
violet ridge
that feels a bit borderline confederate apologia but I don't know the full context
I think Robbie may be more likely given chinese censorship around human remains and bones though
ghost rider's skull could be an issue there sadly
supposedly Hood's kit was leaked and it doesn't look hoodlike at all.
neither invisibility nor walking on air that are such a core part of his moveset
lilac snow
The levitation might just not be noted if it's passive?
But yeah weird not to give a guy named Hood the magical ability of his iconic enchanted hood
Also huh TIL that The Hood is getting second billing in the upcoming Ironheart series
violet ridge
is it a series or a film?
lilac snow
6-ep miniseries
green junco
that feels a bit borderline confederate apologia but I don't know the full conte...
I could see that. Basically the whole ministry is about what constitutes revenge and it's cost. Because Travis, the Confederate guy, is the one who finds the dead Caleb's family, and starts also hunting down the Klansman gang that killed him. He also finds spirit of vengeance Caleb this way, which leads to a big demon fight between the klan gang and Travis and Caleb, until a whole town erupta until flames from Caleb brutally killing them all. He asks Travis to leave but he doesn't, and the Confederate, being a damned man as well, he gets penance stared and leaves a broken man
teal mist
Always feels great when you manage to work with a Wrong-Picked Loki Ult
lapis aspen
Loki Ult is so fun, because you get to just completely use an entire characters load out in one go
Just blast out every single ability
teal mist
Was maybe my third time being Scarlet Witch ever
glass pollen
*Always feels great when you manage to work with a Wrong-Picked Loki Ult*
check the loki exclusive settings to give you a prompt of what ult you pick
teal mist
In further Loki shenanigans I feel like stealing a good healer ult is usually the most like clutch but Simultaneous 2x Starlord Combo is sort of hilarious
'C'mon Strange, pick a direction'
runic apex
i feel like im the only person that would steal a n SG ult as loki
teal mist
Nawhh, new SG ult is pretty demonic in some maps
And that's a lotta sudden DPS
I can't imagine trying to heal through double bombardment
lapis aspen
SG ult is good, but there's quite a few ults I'd take before it
I wouldnt be upset if I accidentally got it though
mild pine
it depends on the area I feel
lapis aspen
especially after the ult you'd get 2 nut stuns out there
mild pine
some places it might bounce down to an awkward area, but some areas it would just be a menace
Double wanda ult
to cause people to cry
lapis aspen
double wanda ult so you both get to die before actually completing the ult
mild pine
Honestly if that was a future game I'd enjoy it
have a couple of wandas and some spidermen who can't attack or something
and wanda has to try and explode the hiding spidermen
lapis aspen
Wanda vs Spider-Man prop hunt
teal mist
If the next healer ult is an aura of 200 HP/S I'm going to maybe stop playing for a season
Every single push is decided on Healer Ult
Swear to god they had it within 45 seconds
runic apex
i think it will be
lapis aspen
Considering how loudly the community is annoyed by the current state of healer ults, they might not
runic apex
pretty much all of them need nerfing
zen's was consider strong and it lasted half as long
in a slower game
teal mist
I wouldn't mind healing across the board going down but then we'd have to look at DPS
It's just so abundant compared to OW
teal mist
I missed the Bridgette era admittedly
runic apex
yeeah that was the point that 76 was considered F teir for lack of burst damage
for context on how broken healing was
hanzo,widow, and doomfist were meta
despite being bad charcters
teal mist
I think that's why Season 0 was Hawkeye Hela town
runic apex
nah haweke and hela were insane
hanzo could at no point oneshot from a a charged bodyshot into a non charged shot
teal mist
And now without that Healing is insane is what I meant
runic apex
its the support ults mainly
lapis aspen
I find it hard to look at balance stuff because I don't think I'm good enough at the game to know whats broken and what I just don't know how to respond to yet
teal mist
Same I guess, 'cept the ult-charge-gain thing, that one I feel certain on
Shouldn't be every other fight has to deal with an Invisible Tower
runic apex
i think just a universial heal charge reducing would help a lot
cause if you notice its mainly healers geting their ults really fast despite the cost being the highest
teal mist
And I know the numbers don't mean much but to have both of these this high feels crazy
Pickrate that high usually drags the wins down
lapis aspen
i think just a universial heal charge reducing would help a lot
Definetly, having to hear C&D ult every fight is sort of boring
teal mist
My last game was against C&D and a Loki
( who only copied C&D )
so may be why i'm vexxed
lapis aspen
As the only real response to that is a collection of ults which charge much slower or getting a lucky peni mine stack off
runic apex
i hate when people are like "nah namor also counters them"
"so does if everyone in the group focuses fire on a single target"
teal mist
I think Mantis would have to fall asleep to get hit by that whale while ulting
runic apex
these are not reliable in any universe
teal mist
Namor Ult into IW is fun in a slot machine kinda way
runic apex
i didn't even know namor's ult can do 500 until someone told me
runic apex
there is a 3m circle in the middle that does 500 damage
yeah i had people claiming because of that namor counters the healing ults
teal mist
Whale Direct Hit is 500, everything else is 200
lapis aspen
I also have to ask, is namor good? Because I've played a couple games as him and he seems really good?
But maybe people just werent shooting the turrets?
runic apex
even strange's eye doesnt counter the healing ults
teal mist
Also you have to play Namor v-v
runic apex
i once on reaction heard THE EYE and ulted as mantis and it just entiely wasted his ult
despite hiting 5 of us
thats the othe thing about healing ults
lapis aspen
i once on reaction heard THE EYE and ulted as mantis and it just entiely wasted ...
I've done this multiple times, sometimes I don't even hear the begining we just both realise it's the ideal time to ult
runic apex
they have zero start up
lapis aspen
I do think it's fun that healing ults can be blocked by stranges shield though
As they're mostly LoS based
fervent pumice
I also have to ask, is namor good? Because I've played a couple games as him and...
Very good
probably the duelist when dealing with flankers and dive
teal mist
Playing Iron Fist summons a Namor roughly 80% of the time
teal mist
Also I'm appreciating him as a solo queue 'i don't know if i can trust the healers, so i'll just ease their burden' kind of thing
in addition to the fun of kicking folks unconcious
green junco
Apparently leakers may have found hints towards a PVE boss rush sort of mode called infinity crisis
Which is exciting
hexed niche
I hope we get a very classic DR strange skin eventually
Cyan shirt, yellow gloves, red cloak
hexed niche
Technically his color swap is his ORIGINAL appearance
Huh, didn’t realize that’s what it was meant to be
Though it’s not really accurate besides incorporating some blue
Also I do kinda wish Mantis had some kinda 3 hit melee passive like Groot or Moon Knight
Even if it’d be really useless on her
Just to reference her martial arts skills in the comics
green junco
I agree
green junco
Though it’s not really accurate besides incorporating some blue
600 coin moment
hexed niche
What’s that?
lilac snow
God damn, Seagull
(Paraphrased) "Sometimes it's not about being the best, but not being the worst, and if your local feeder swaps to Rocket Raccoon they well no longer be the worst"
Source, at 1:09
https://youtu.be/hzoWZYfqLlY?t=69
velvet sinew
based seagull
lilac snow
He's got a good point about Hawkeye nerfs too
lapis aspen
Idk, I think Haweyes low winrate could attributed to a higher-skill floor rather than not actually being too good
lilac snow
But most people weren't playing against high-skill elite Hawkeyes, and they still hated getting headshotted
fervent pumice
Don't get how the "Rocket is bad" think piece got so much traction
God damn Tim...
green junco
All the supports cook
twilit belfry
Don't get how the "Rocket is bad" think piece got so much traction
I believe in "Rocket is decent"
Problem is everyone else is exceptional
teal mist
Rocket feels like the one they should balance around tbh
green junco
Playing rocket does make me feel like a rat bastard
It's great
Pump shit tons of heals, rez someone, and scamper away
teal mist
Make every diver terribly sad
( Iron Fist can be clingy but you can get away if he doesn't want to devote a kick )
twilit belfry
( Iron Fist can be clingy but you can get away if he doesn't want to devote a ki...
That man has to have his tracking toned down a bit
teal mist
He's all commitment he's fiiine
green junco
I think as the game got out of release time, I do feel people are a lot more aware of iron fist and can focus him easier
But I might also just be bad lol
hexed niche
That man has to have his tracking toned down a bit
He really needs everything he can get rn
glass pollen
Don't get how the "Rocket is bad" think piece got so much traction
Honestly Im more annoyed at the "No dps grandmaster rockets"
like yeah sure, healbot away but you have the fucking mobility and your dps is nothing to scoff at, use it or help your teammates, you mitigate damage more by murdering
teal mist
Also it feels nice to burn someone down as Rocket, they never feel like they see it coming
Little guy has 180+ DPS if you let him, not really counting headshot
lilac snow
Spy Rocket has a gun!
teal mist
Game needs an Ambassador for Loki
hexed niche
New cap and Luna skins
timber garnet
Curious how Cap is gonna work
hexed niche
Probably gonna be a big left shield and a small shield on his right
mild pine
I had to reduce all the stuff down just so this would upload
because god damn I'm doing a polite maneto "Get BACK IN YOUR BASE"
teal mist
Cap shield might be tragically kept to MVP animation.. but could pop up on ult like that one Spidersman
mild pine
I then promptly got ult and slamdunked on to two supports who wandered out too far
teal mist
Mags is such a wall when supported
mild pine
Oh yeah Sue stuck up a shield and I knew I had to play around that thing to constantly keep my health up and keep on artillery their people as they came out
She could literally set and forget for me back there
twilit belfry
like yeah sure, healbot away but you have the fucking mobility and your dps is n...
To be frank, Rocket has one of the lower average damage of all the strats
glass pollen
...average yeah, close range he shreds
lapis aspen
I had to reduce all the stuff down just so this would upload
Staggering directly out of spawn, just sad to see
lapis aspen
I've literally never had an issue with a psylocke. Like I've had games where lots of flankers and divers kill me constantly but never a psylocke
runic apex
she does sorta have falloff in a way
but its more of the spread is so high
and just doing body shots doesnt do as much as headshots
actully her falloff is compareable to rockets\
teal mist
5 extra m and 20 extra %, and Rocket's spread is Rocket's Spread but i getcha
teal mist
it's about as confusingly worded as they could make it
Also she has to be about as far from 'projectile' as something in that class can get
Feels like a buncha tiny Hela darts
timber garnet
Blood Edge Armor attained
hexed niche
Hell yah
teal mist
it's wild that some folks already have the Wolverine skin
that's so much Actual Real Money
lapis aspen
Good job!
frigid moat
I was stuck at silver one for like 5 hours
Also I didn't know rocket even had MVP animations
lapis aspen
Rockets hard to get MVP at because of how it's calculated
even if you do a really good job
frigid moat
It's funny though because apparently me playing hulk is annoying enough to have two healers and a tank try to chase me to the ends of the earth away from point, winning my team the game but that would never give MVP because how could it
teal mist
That's 90% of Captain America life
Invisibly helping the team win by making three enemies lose their minds for some reason
lapis aspen
It's so funny to stand in a side room with a healer as Captain America
just running around a Mantis going "Look at me! Look at me!" as the Mantis's team is slowly killed
teal mist
Truly I Can Do This All Day spirit
teal mist
Chasing Rocket as Iron Fist is so ridiculous
teal mist
Spiderman's whole kit is toxic
Against coordination he doesn't exist and against un-coordination he doesn't allow supports to play the videogame
Though maybe it's just a team-up issue
Just like Iron Man lol
Like I'm not claiming him to be overpowered just.. absolutely unfun. I would not Strategist into Venom/Spiderman for actual money
Make him more of a brawler or something, instead of just cycling a 250 oneshot combo
lilac snow
Plus also having the yoinky
teal mist
At least that's locational
Sue has a way easier time of it
She is a monster on that one Wakanda Domination place
sand oracle
I do wish spiderman's kit was more interesting than diving asssassain 24/7
teal mist
And I don't think 'have two of you there to heal eachother' is good counterplay for supports
It makes the Spiderman have no fun and it's annoying to be on watch for him as the healers themselves, nobody wins
green junco
My win condition against spiderman is playing adam warlock and fish for headshots while scanning the air
If I make a good spiderman think twice about diving me, I win
teal mist
I can at least make him play a guessing game as Loki
deny a dive with totem
but that's a 25 second CD for one dumbass
green junco
I just kill him or get him really low while I tap my heal when I get low
sly yew
can magneto get the iron from me blood?
i saw that on the movie once but did that also happen in the comics?
teal mist
Magneto's powers vary in the comics, sometimes he controls every electromagnetic field to like global levels/ being able to melt people's brains because that's also an electric web, but ye he pulled a nail out of a racists blood and made him hypoxic to death iirc
sly yew
i see 
mild pine
Villain power scaling is always strange because sometimes he can flip the planet's poles and sometimes he's defeated by a wooden gun
sly yew
hehe
green junco
Part of it comes from him dying at least once
So he gets like a power rescale on occasion
Or getting hit with some anti mutant maguffin
lapis aspen
He can flip the poles abut still be killable by a wooden gun
it's made of wood not metal
green junco
True
teal mist
Being immune to Rogue's powers still one of the most "????"
mild pine
mild pine
I literally stood on the moving cart and shielded them whenever my many lesbians daughters went diving
teal mist
I love shielding a diver, you just know you made an enemy support sad
"Omg BP has 30 healt- Oh."
hexed niche
Being immune to Rogue's powers still one of the most "????"
Magneto’s actual power is being able to do anything he wants so long as he says “magnetic” beforehand
mild pine
assist
Mmmmm... validation
green junco
The explanation is that he has a magnetic forcefield that he keeps constantly up to insulate himself
The little ripple on his hand
teal mist
But why do her powers care about magnetism
green junco
Because she's touching his field, not his skin
teal mist
But it doesn't stop wood
mild pine
He's wearing gloves as well
teal mist
True the gloves part does make this scene specifically a lil silly
mild pine
like he wouldn't be affected cause he got gloves
lilac snow
Yeah do Rogue's powers work through clothes? I didn't think they did
teal mist
But I remember the explanation from '97
mild pine
They shouldn't no
lilac snow
Like that's why she wears her own gloves all the time
teal mist
It's just a stretch but Xmen loves a drama
green junco
But it doesn't stop wood
I don't consider New Fantastic Four a good representation of either the F4 or Magneto
Hell it didn't even have Human Torch due to licensing issues 
green junco
Also rogue's power is inconsistent
Sometimes she can touch Colossus when hes in metal form and he's fine, other times she absorbs the power
teal mist
I can't imagine it has anything do to with the medium having more writers on deck than any other sort
lilac snow
And also since 2009 she just has normal control over her power absorption power
teal mist
Secondary mutation or was it one of those Mental Block sorts
lilac snow
Mental block
green junco
Well until Mr and Mrs X when her powers got jumpstarted by the Shi'ar, which gave her the ability to leech both power and life energy from a distance, which she couldn't turn off, until she got the help of Spiral in Mojoworld to remove the mental block that was restricting her control of her powers, from her fear of killing everyone
lilac snow
I didn't know this until 5 minutes ago
teal mist
Good on Spiral for helping
green junco
It was spirals device from mojoworld that lets her go into her own subconcious and figure herself out but yeah
Mutant powers shift a lot
teal mist
They seem to go about as far as the owner can imagine themselves doing sometimes
But I can imagine not wanting to test if you can re-constitute if your Ice Form explodes
green junco
Like Magneto in around the current canon is super crippled after being resurrected
He's nowhere near his peak
lilac snow
I have a very silly question
There are two characters who are were heavily leaked, Emma Frost and Cpt Marvel, and if you also had Magik, Sue, and C&D, who would you pick for a 6th?
teal mist
Part of me wants to say Adam Warlock but then it would be dastardly triple healer meta
green junco
Nothing wrong with triple healer 
lapis aspen
Yeah you could even use it in combination with sues or C&D to get a full revive with healing
teal mist
I can't think of a sixth blonde Marvel gal though, everything's coming up DC
lilac snow
*I can't think of a sixth blonde Marvel gal though, everything's coming up DC*
Three solid picks I found: Mockingbird, Shanna, Dazzler
teal mist
I know not of the first two
Also damn Jubilee always blocks out Dazzler from my memory for some reason
lilac snow
Mockingbird, AKA Bobbi Morse, was pretty SHIELD aligned before joining the Avengers, briefly married Clint Barton, also known as Huntress
green junco
Gwen Stacy, Valkyrie, Husk, Dazzler, Mockingbird, Petra
Darkstar, Spitfire
Agent 13
lilac snow
Shanna the She-Devil is an Irish athlete/veterinarian who went to live in the jungle and have loincloth jungle adventures
teal mist
Omg Gwen I'm a dipshit
lilac snow
TBF, her iconic look doesn't have her hair out
teal mist
Also I don't want to imagine Double SpiderPerson Team
green junco
Oh and Valeria Richards and Ruby Summers
lilac snow
There's already 3 spiders, a 4th might be overdoing it until the cast is larger
green junco
Unless they're very different
Like the spider people in the game are all are very different, but yeah I agree
There's a lot of other people out there who deserve some spotlight before more spiderpeople come
lilac snow
I think there's only so much you could diverge with Spider-Gwen, she's got pretty standard spider powers as spiderverse goes
green junco
Gwen is a bad example of that, there's other spider people who are much more different
lilac snow
Exactly
green junco
I was just giving examples of blonde women in marvel
There's a lot of blonde guys too
teal mist
It's weirdly dense with blondeboys by comparison
lilac snow
Prints better than dark hair in 70s comics :v
teal mist
Ahh, the Super Saiyan method
green junco
Well traditional comic books had a 4 color process so shades of browns and yellows didn't come out well
So you would get black hair with blue highlights or bright yellow or unnatural reds
lilac snow
Bright red hair? Purple? Much easier
green junco
eye colors were the same if they didn't just leave them black
It also helps with distinguishing things when there is less detail, like a farther away panel or if they're in civilian clothes
green junco
I think it pretty likely that Emma Frost is a vanguard
teal mist
Captain Marvel has huge Vanguard energies imo
green junco
She too
celest wadi
Also Kamala Khan.
green junco
I would play the shit out of Kamala Khan
And Emma frost as long as she is dripped out
teal mist
been playing Captain America for tankly business lately and forgot how much Thor is a murderer
I feel like that'd be Marvel's angle, that bruiserly type, Kamala could be a fun like control tank..
but she does also get huge and hit stuff >:|a
teal mist
Was that more than the MCU version? :o thought she was still on the mass-moving game
green junco
No its her mutant power, which her inhuman powers suppressed until she was reanimated by an orchis scientist, which allowed her to use both her mutant and inhuman powers
She's died at least twice in the comics so far
Her zombie form both enlarging and making a hardlight shell around her
teal mist
Comics remain incredibly easy to follow
green junco
She's a lot easier to follow compared to other people tbh
hexed niche
Comics remain incredibly easy to follow
The worst part is this isn’t even normal comic book bullshit, this is MCU synergy comic book bullshit
All to make Ms. Marvel another X-Men in an already overflowing cast of X-Men
lapis aspen
Why are inhumans a seperate thing from X-men
hexed niche
They’re just a different group
green junco
Different process of existence
hexed niche
Inhumans were a secret civilization of people modified by celestials centuries ago
green junco
Kree
hexed niche
Ah yah
green junco
But the celestials helped them
hexed niche
Ohhh I knew they were there somewhere
green junco
The kree genetically engineered a lot of species
hexed niche
They just like doing that
green junco
They were supposed to be soldiers in the Kree-Skrull War, but the supreme intelligence abandoned the project
They mostly lived in Attilan and were thought to be a small secluded group, but a Terrigen bomb went off, revealing and empowering a lot of people with inhuman heritage, like Kamala Khan
The bomb releases Terrigen gas, which when inhaled by humans with the lineage, activate their latant inhuman gene and become metahumans
hexed niche
Also it is kinda funny that Kamala’s original origin come from Marvel trying to push Inhumans in the face of losing X-Men movie rights, and now her new powers are from them trying to push Mutants now that they’ve got them back
God I hate movie synergy
green junco
Within the Inhumans, it used to be a very much allowed and normal process, but due to essentially obliterating the gene pool with crazy mutations, it became controlled, and people needed to go through gene screening when they're older before they can go through the process, with approval from the Genetic Council, or Attilans leadership
Most inhumans eventually go through it
The bomb was the second bomb they made, to use when Thanos came to kill Black Bolts son, and Black bolt triggered it, which spread the mist across earth and started revealing a bunch of new inhumans, called NuHumans
Something the Attilans didn't know was that there was a sect of inhumans who lived within humans and intermingled, leading to 100,000s of people with the gene
The idea of Kamala Khan came from a conversation between two Marvel Editors, Sana Amanat and Steven Wacker, where Sana wanted to explore the muslim american diaspora from an authentic perspective, and it was greenlit back in 2013
Fun fact, the event where she became superpowered, Infinity, was technically two events between the Thanos stuff and Builder, but the thanos stuff inspired the infinity war saga a lot
hexed niche
Oh yah, I love Kamala, and her original origin story was the comic book bullshit I adore
“A bomb is detonated that releases gas that makes a bunch of super heroes” is peak comic books
lilac snow
Why are inhumans a seperate thing from X-men
The OG Inhumans were from the 60s, but the modern stories started in 1998 where Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee wanted to write social allegory stuff but (presumably) didn't want to get bogged in 90s X-men bullshit
And there was the whole Terrigen bomb storyline in 2013
hexed niche
They were always kinda around before then though
Generally interacting with the fantastic four
lilac snow
Ye, Black Bolt and Medusa and etc
green junco
The inhuman mutant thing did come from a mix of the MCU series and the Krakoa arc in the comics
She's technically the first mutant in the MCU
hexed niche
Ye, Black Bolt and Medusa and etc
Honestly Medusa is so funny to me because she basically was a F4 villain for a while, then she pretty much got bored and rejoined Blackbolt and the Inhumans
lilac snow
Oh, MCU Kamala is also a mutant?
hexed niche
They’re using her to set up mutants in the MCU I think
lilac snow
And I remember Peter and Wanda being not mutants in the comics was also a MCU synergy decision
green junco
The last episode reveals she has a genetic mutation
And her powers in the show mirror her mutant powers in the comics
hexed niche
And I remember Peter and Wanda being *not* mutants in the comics was also a MCU ...
Yup, and then they were retconned not to be in the comics either
I think they’re back to mutants though?
Via Krakoa
lilac snow
Yup, and then they were retconned not to be in the comics either
Yeah that's what I meant
hexed niche
Oh yah
I thought you meant them being introduced into the MCUs without being mutants
lilac snow
That was a... dysergy thing because they couldn't use the word mutant b/c Fox still had the rights to X-men/etc
hexed niche
Yah
lilac snow
Also the multiverse welding stuff means that the MCU now has both a mutant and a non-mutant Peter
Good jerb
hexed niche
Schrödinger’s spider-man
We do not know if spider-man is a mutant or not until we open up secret wars
Also I’ve always kinda hated Marvel’s weird insistence on making Peter a mutant
It never sticks and is only used for cheap drama
And like, him becoming super-powered at random is kinda a big thing for him
runic apex
“A bomb is detonated that releases gas that makes a bunch of super heroes” is pe...
static shock kinda
hexed niche
Kinda yah
runic apex
im really tired of the 0-10 spidremen i always get
sand kelp
Also I’ve always kinda hated Marvel’s weird insistence on making Peter a mutant
they wha?
wh. why. isn't him just being some dude who stumbled his way into superheroics kind of his whole Shtick
green junco
two words, spider totem
timber garnet
The Spider Totem sucks both conceptually and in actuality
maiden slate
Now I’m no expert
But isn’t the whole schtick with the difference between mutants and human mutates the X-Gene?
Pete wasn’t born with it and his mutation was from the epic spider that bit him, so he’s a mutate, not a mutant
But I dunno if the definition changed or whatnot, and I’m not an expert on Kamala being a mutant
teal mist
I think the original Pete mention might have been Quicksilver and things spiraled
Because that ||wandavision cameo||
green junco
But isn’t the whole schtick with the difference between mutants and human mutate...
Yeah that's the difference between an X-Men/"mutant" and a meta human. Inhumans also have an inhuman specific gene, which is why they're different then X-Men or "mutants"
maiden slate
Yeah, and the classic joke of mutant prejudice being weird and baseless (just like all prejudice)
green junco
The way I think about it is that many of like the people at the top weren't born that way, they are just humans. Mutants represent a superior type of human, being born that way, making regular people feel small and insignificant. Humans are also irrational and bigotry doesn't make sense
A lot of the anti mutant people also generally hate all super-powered people indiscriminately
hexed niche
Ok to be fair, Marvel civilians hate most of the people on top too
The US government is regularly trying to murder/capture the hulk
Marvel civilians just kinda suck
icy cosmos
no kidding lol
green junco
Ur good lol
Yeah the characters up at the top are also hated to an extent, but not as much as mutants generally find themselves imo
There's at least multiple major X-men events that are just a bunch of mutants being hunted down
rough out there
Or like essentially attempted genocide
lilac snow
None of these have Inhuman powers, that's a third set of dudes
green junco
yeah mutants and inhumans are different
Difference is that inhumans don't give a fuck
raven summit
Inhumans are rich.
teal mist
They should gently buff Scarlet Witch ( because I want more times to use the Magneto Teamup Sword )
it turns him into such an entirely different guy
twilit belfry
it turns him into such an entirely different guy
He can get a little bit of DPS, as a treat
runic apex
i don't understand why they buffed him honestly
teal mist
'Black Panther is too survivable for his nearly oneshot combo, so we took some bonus health from his kit'
'We gave it to Bucky, who does that combo from range, inside the rest of his team'
and he just does the same thing as old Hawkeye
slinging giant bullets downrange because everything reloads and even if he doesn't the reload on his gun is barely extant anyway
Roterstern shouldn't headshot imo
it's already an AOE
it'd be like if Squirrel Girl could
His weakness is Exceptionally Long Range and that doesn't even exist in 60% of the maps
runic apex
it should headshot cause then that would be a massive nerf
maybe the biggest nerf in the game
teal mist
(good)
he doesn't need to be an anti-diver anti-tank anti-midrange anti-everything-but-hela
runic apex
its the health really thats the issue
reaally just undo his last changes entirely
he was fine before
teal mist
Personally I feel he was just kind of Sleeper OP beneath all the more obvious issue-having-folks but idk
I guess he's weak to being 2v1'd
teal mist
Playing Peni is a fun way to bait people into playing things Cap hard counters
Also kind of feels like folks think landmines can only exist on the web
lapis aspen
Being a flier is honestly a big advantage
it;s just harder to shoot someone in the sky
compact brook
i keep thinking about this and yeah AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
lapis aspen
MVP as Peni
timber garnet
Nice
lapis aspen
Got more nest kills than usual. Usually people avoid it so much it doesnt actually deal much damage.
Also Widowmaker is so ouchy if your a big slow tank
She can get head shots quite easily and ruin your day
runic apex
wait theres more than 2?
sly yew
hexed niche
wait theres more than 2?
I know there are 3, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Polaris but I don’t know about a fourth
runic apex
polaris is one i didn't know about and yeah the 4th
lilac snow
SMH, adoptive kids count
steady flame
Wiccan in Marvel Rivals when?
hexed niche
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Anya_Eisenhardt_(Earth-616)
Oh
teal mist
Had new idea the new Cap skin had new SFX, it sounds like a Marimba when you toss the shield at folks
violet ridge
who does this game have to take 7k MB of memory
violet ridge
metaphor, ffxiv, midnight sons, warframe, all run super well on my pc
cunning nacelle
metaphor, ffxiv, midnight sons, warframe, all run super well on my pc
None of these run on Unreal 5?
That's the point I'm making
violet ridge
fair enough
runic apex
unreal 4-5 is garbage and i hate it it took this long for finally for people to realize it
violet ridge
I hope the devs work on it. I've found I can get it working if I close discord in task manager
but I really shouldn't be needing workarounds
cunning nacelle
Unreal 5 is optimised horribly and has arbitrarily high requirements for very little fidelity gain
runic apex
ive been saying for years the time that unreal is getting more unstable, worse to mod for, and runnig worse and worse.
cunning nacelle
You are correct
runic apex
Unreal used ot be the engine for mod>to full game but then 4 came along and kinda ruined that
green junco
Chris Evans accurate
mild pine
Oh good they took notes
violet ridge
I wonder who else we'll see this year, we now ben and johnny are coming, and we have evidence for Ultron and Blade. At the end of this season we'll have 9 tanks, 8 healers with Thing having just come in which would suggest that next season will have a healer and I suspect each season will have a duelist since they're always the favorite child from their popularity. Hood is the best guess for a Blade partner but that would mean we won't get Emma this year. Ultron will probably be one of the two healers this year, but I don't know who else could show up there.
wanton salmon
honestly my main hope is we get more combo duelists like reed
whovoook and play and are classed like duelists
but trick people into vanguarding or strategisting in
without them having to intentionally vary their playstyle or learn new playstyles more than reed
runic apex
That doesnt really work because reed is one of the harder charcters to play as, i think he hes one of the underrated charcters its just most people are bad with timing his cooldowns
violet ridge
I'm wondering if its going to be ghost rider hood that we get
wanton salmon
it would he very funny if they use the hood to cover the skull completly
violet ridge
Chine is sensitive to bones and human remains so I could see it
Does beg the question how his possessed form would look different if they cover that though since that’s the main visual distinction
And that’s assuming he isn’t in his typical possessed form
sand kelp
Chine is sensitive to bones and human remains so I could see it
what's up w iron man's gothic armor skin for this season then-
mild pine
they don't seem to mind if it's skeleton LIKE
just as long as it doesn't show actual bone
like Karthus used to be a skeleton Lich
violet ridge
Even skeleton like can be wonky at times, most companies play it very safe
mild pine
violet ridge
But yeah, skull head is going to be unlikely unfortunately
I figured Robbie would be the rider we’d get for that reason
runic apex
the skull thing always confused me
violet ridge
It will feel weird if hood is final vengeance hood when he was only that for a miniseries but otherwise has a whole different power set
green junco
I mean the game isn't opposed from twisting characters backstories/abilities to find the narrative, like 2099 cyber captain america or demon arm hive possessed Bucky
violet ridge
The cap in the game is from 2099?
green junco
Yeah, it's also why his shield is also an energy saw
lilac snow
Yeah it's like, "mask that looks like a skull" is okay, "actual human skull" is big no no
So yeah there's outs like like if they did Ghost Rider 2099 with the robotic metal skull head or w/e
(Might be a weird pull tho, it only ran 2 years in the mid 90s)
sand kelp
robbie reyes is also an easier out bc that's a decidedly metallic/stylized skull
lilac snow
Oh yeah he kinda has a henshin mask thing going on
twilit belfry
They could go the Cosmic Ghost Rider route and cover the skull with a helm and make the helm transparent
lilac snow
I think that might be an actual skull tho
mild pine
the main thing is putting something that blocks sight between the bone and the viewer, so a transparent helm wouldn't work. They might just... not have ghost rider? Or go genshin with him, him from psylocke's world. Either way they're not going to risk the chinese market.
lilac snow
I think Junobo is right that something like Robbie Reyes's look probably acceptable, especially if they stylize it even further
lapis aspen
The Thor Cap team up is so much fun
actually being able to kill healers instead of jsut harras is so nice
teal mist
Fun answer to Storm and Tony, too, they never expect it
sly yew
Oh the third one....
i feel like that might not be super okay to post just cause of that one....
Idk
lilac snow
The swastika joke is more than a little inappropriate I think
sand kelp
I think Junobo is right that something like Robbie Reyes's look probably accepta...
i think abt that level of stylization is pretty in line w their aesthetic. it would probably look less organic even than this, but it is suggestion enough to work i feel
also this ghost rider being put in would be hilarious bc robbie hitting someone with a car is an objectively funny prospect
hexed hearth
mild pine
I wanna hit someone with a car
sand kelp
other ultimates: thematic, reasonable niches
robbie's ultimate: move or be roadkill
mild pine
green junco
Robbie Reyes is one of my favorite Ghost Riders, the 1969 Dodge Charger is sick af
mild pine
Do you think that like... the fantasy version of ghost rider is a Centaur?
violet ridge
he would be neat yeah, definetly feels odd we're probably getting Hood Ghost rider first
green junco
We don't know for sure, I hope not
violet ridge
Do you think that like... the fantasy version of ghost rider is a Centaur?
there's a bunch of riders, including a mammoth rider and a few horse riders
green junco
The leaks have been getting less and less accurate, it would get a lot easier once models get added
violet ridge
aggreed, but hood's kit has no mention of extra abilities you'd gain from his ult (demon form) and its also conspicuously named 'demon form' and not 'possesion' which has always been what his dormammu possesed form is refered to
green junco
Technically Robbie is the "All-Rider," being the highest form of ghost rider, where he can possess anything into his control with hellfire including a celestial
violet ridge
ultron, blade, emma and jean seem to be the only ones the leakers are confident are even coming this year, and even those could end up unexpected. Add to that that's only 4 of the six, which means two extra wild cards will show up
there's a lot more to their files is why
runic apex
oh yeah storm's ult is getting a buff next season if human torch is being played
cause that will be fun
green junco
aggreed, but hood's kit has no mention of extra abilities you'd gain from his ul...
It could also reference when Dormamu made a deal with him to give him some power as a demon guy until he went full possession because it's dormammu
violet ridge
there's some wild theories that blade/ultron will be together in Thebes since there's an old, and I mean old old, story where Ultron creates a robot city called robotopia there.
violet ridge
yup, that was my first guess, but that would likely mean different movesets tied to him when he gets possesed, and his files have no extra moves that could work (in contrast emma has a ton because of her being a stance character), this suggests he retains his moveset but simple gets buffed. I think they might fuse his rider and possesed forms personally, its a way to bypass the skull issue
green junco
Or just go Robbie since it's less skull more flaming biker helmet
Like Renzo from Fortnite
lilac snow
Huh, I was expecting Johnny and Ben to share the F4 teamup
runic apex
there is one thing im really worried about is
if the entire family gets that sue team up
green junco
It looks like Johnny and Storm have one, and maybe wolverine and Ben?
I don't think Sue and reeds is team wide but it would be crazy if that was the case
runic apex
i hope not its mainly the wording on it that worriers me
this also does mean storm will have two teamups unless one is removed
green junco
The current wording doesn't mention the full team like the previous language used to say besides being called "fantasti-force"
There's a couple characters with 2 team ups
lilac snow
Oh the Sue/Reeds one is named “Wedded Harmony” now, yeah that’s just gonna be the two of them
runic apex
runic apex
none of those are a double benfit i do'nt think
runic apex
thor gives to cap and storm
green junco
You get a stat boost instead
lilac snow
Yeah and I remember Spidey grants to SG and receives from Venom
runic apex
i don't count anchors as two
i mean like storm would both be geting a new ablity from thor, and a buffed ult from human torch
lilac snow
Right, okay
runic apex
it being storm is already at the top that sounds really scary
double flier each buffing eachother
green junco
So it sounds like if torch ults and then storm moved her ult into one of the tornados he can make ,it disappears and makes her ult do more damge which makes the nados bigger she hits
lilac snow
Oh the Sue/Reeds one is named “Wedded Harmony” now, yeah that’s just gonna be th...
Okay, it’s named this on Reed’s page but is Fantasti-Force on Sue’s, I didn’t realize that teamups had asymmetric names
green junco
So it sounds like if torch ults and then storm moved her ult into one of the tor...
Despite probably being strong that sound sick af. Really depending on the cool down of his flame fields to tornado ability is
Or the amount of coordination you do
sand oracle
https://www.videogamer.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=1200,height=675,fit=crop,quality=...
if this is real he seems pretty cool ngl
teal mist
Also how legit is this leak because it says Hurriance right there
runic apex
its been around for a while
green junco
Abilities that can interact to become better with teamwork is cool in my book
runic apex
sly yew
you nailed that iron man so hard
runic apex
violet ridge
Huh, I was expecting Johnny and Ben to share the F4 teamup
same, honestly surprised
green junco
That's my only problem like why even do that
I guess it's not hard to climb but like damn
I'm sure if enough people are vocal about it, they'll change it like they have for other things
runic apex
thats 10 ranks a season
fervent pumice
just do placement matches
green junco
Im sure placements will become a thing eventually but yeah kinda rough
At least its easier to gain rank in this game compared to others
I will say one thing about the new rivals skins. Netease had the opportunity to include an actual Luna Snow song in the mvp animation but they didn't
green junco
They should give daredevil wallhacks if someone is low but hes only melee
twilit belfry
They should give daredevil wallhacks if someone is low but hes only melee
Give him a run
green junco
yes
green junco
decided to try some ranked again to get to gold before the 20 days
Back to silver again
green junco
No more mid season resets
lilac snow
Yeah people complained about the LoL mid-season resets and LoL only does 1 season a year
runic apex
i think what made the marvel one worse is it was just sorta droped on us the week before the eason ends
runic apex
green junco
league players moment
runic apex
i had one really nailbiting highlight today
hexed niche
lilac snow
DbD Huntress mains nodding approvingly
violet ridge
I never noticed that her reload was the squirrel on her head throwing new nuts to her
violet ridge
I really like the gotchi adam skin but I don't play healer much and don't like spending money
violet ridge
Someone summarized all of the short stories that are in the lore section, which gives us some ideas as to what's going on and where we might go next
lilac snow
Source: posted by Eiichiro Oda @EiichiroYoda on twitter
green junco
Someone summarized all of the short stories that are in the lore section, which ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/s/3esx0zBIo7 the reddit guy who made it
runic apex
anyone else getting tired of fight spiderman even if they go 0-20
i feel like this season his pickrate skyrocketed
green junco
I don't really have problems with spiderman myself, but that's because I target the shit out of him when he peaks his little head
When I'm not already shooting at someone that is
runic apex
its more of im just tired of him being annoying and less him being a htreat
im alos tired of bp for simlar reasons
green junco
I like how mobile he is, both watching him zip around and playing as him, same goes for bp
I like flashy guys
runic apex
part of it is how often they show up for me
i think half the games tonight have had one of them
and some of those had both
green junco
I mean at least spiderman is very popular character like outside of the game
And being a very skilled expression type character, it's kinda like Genji where people want to be good on him
teal mist
I feel this way about Star Lord
runic apex
i rarely see starlord
teal mist
Do Nothing All Game But Be Annoying: Ult, Kill Four Guys
I feel like there's been a secondary invasion of Starlords and Buckies
still a lotta spidermen but i'm rarely playing characters that have beef with him
runic apex
im not having issues with spiderman in terms of "is he beating us"
its just more of he is annoying fly at all times
teal mist
the worst is One Spiderman on Both Teams because then you can't even make judgements based on noises
runic apex
and going 3-5 matches in a row with an annoying fly is just annoying
idk why but some matches i just get wierdly hard targeted as SG
im talking solo ulted 5-6 times
by wolverine?
almost
green junco
I see more Star lords than Spiderman's tbh
And again I just target him specifically if I can so he can stay dead
I do generally try to focus SG when I see some stray nuts only because I find that other people tend not to notice the flanking explosions
runic apex
compact brook
congrats :D
sly yew
SQUIRREL
velvet sinew
GIRL
timber garnet
SQUIRREL STAMPEDE!!!!!!!!
green junco
Wow that's actually like a nice dress that isn't super skimpy
I like the little spin they do when you zoom in
Very nice
Also netease after edaters find out
glass pollen
Namor in shambles
namor doing the "IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEEEEEEEE"
main parcel
Reed's emote where he pulls out the ring box is so funny.
Yours arms still work like arms, Reed. You don't need to go stretchy to reach into your back pocket.
green junco
In the comics, reeds natural state is basically a puddle of plastic, he has to actively focus to look normal
Lots of emotion can cause him to start to distort
Though I think its more style here
green junco
I would be too
main parcel
In the comics, reeds natural state is basically a puddle of plastic, he has to a...
Does that mean he sleeps in a bucket like Odo from DS9?
mild pine
The joke in my head is staying there
lilac snow
I think he sleeps in a big bed with his wife
green junco
yeah he sleeps in a big bed with his wife
frigid moat
Can punisher ping people through walls with his tracking vision?
Wondering because I trying to think of a daredevil kit that wouldnt be too clunky
cunning nacelle
yup
teal mist
One of the most "????" kind of passives, is this a traditional Punisher ability
wanton salmon
nope
green junco
Its not a traditional ability but this is a frank castle who got an experimental super serum, probably some form of the super soldier program, which brought him to 2099
aka maybe something from that?
main parcel
Lost a ranked game where we held the opponents in spawn for 3.5 minutes before out tank switched off becasue "it wasn't fun to just stand there".
What the actual fuck is wrong with these people?
runic apex
Know who i hate
that person who made that post about geting to GM without doing damage as rocket
now you got these "no damge rocket" wannabees who ruin games
hexed hearth
I know there's no chance of it ever happening
but it would be very based if they added Batman as a guest character
and he had a Bat Shark Repellant interaction with jeff
actually wait
do kids these days even know about Bat Shark Repellant
velvet sinew
See, you get this shit with anyoen who makes a meme build popular in a game
The countless league players who tried to play inting sion just because they saw baus do it
hexed hearth
nah, Caitlyn Jungle is an underrated meta-killer, trust
teal mist
Yuumi Top works, you just need a psychic connection to your jungler
violet ridge
Playing magik is hard
It feels harder in domination as well
I’m definitely getting best results as magneto then Penni
hexed niche
I’m not posting it because it’s a Twitter link but the rivals dev denied that they included fake characters for leakers
So there’s hope
runic apex
my thought is some of those charcters people found arente actully going to be playable
they coudl be a spray, something added to a map, refrenced in lore
lapis aspen
I mean, if I put in fake characters for leakers I'd say I wasn't either /j
fervent pumice
I’m not posting it because it’s a Twitter link but the rivals dev denied that th...
Which dev?
runic apex
marvel rivals
lilac snow
You can screenshot if you'd like
Dev comments on twitter are a perfectly fine case for screenshots
hexed niche
Which dev?
The executive producer
violet ridge
my thought is some of those charcters people found arente actully going to be pl...
I think they’re early alpha concepts
They’re real but it’s not guaranteed they make it to playable, nor unchanged
Blade and ultron are the only two that seem really confirmed
Although I think we’ll get Emma and Jean with krakoa
Klyntar 2, Krakoa, Thebes, Collectors playground and x mansion are the leaked maps and I think the last will be an arcade map
I wonder how they’ll put with hood, it’ll likely be a dps but I don’t think we’ll get a tank other than Emma and thing this year
Since blade feels the most appropriate as a partner
violet ridge
Hoods been showing up in the recent werewolf by night run and really growing on me
It’s also likely we’ll get a final map for each theme in each game mode, and then los diablos, alchemax 2099 and latveria may show up as well
I don’t think we’ll see any more season with more than two characters though
lilac snow
I think Cpt Marvel with Klyntar 2 sounded pretty plausible too
violet ridge
yeah, its a decent theory, probably with her as damage and then possibly Ultron
leaves the question as to what healer will be with blade though
violet ridge
I think s2+4 will be healer/dps seasons and three a tank/dps season
runic apex
i mainly just hope for gambit
violet ridge
I hope hood isn’t too far out
We’ve got years worth of leaked characters, high likelihood some are early concepts that won’t even make it
violet ridge
"It was like someone doing scratch paperwork left a notebook there, and someone decided to open it with no context."
runic apex
thats pretty much what i thought
violet ridge
I wonder how they cast might be assembled, Mantis mentions to Loki that there are asgardians in the collector's playground, so Angela/Valk might be together there. Deadpool/hitmonkey feels like an obvous combo. Marvel will probably come on Klyntar, Emma/Jean feel likely together but I have no idea who Hood and Modok could be with
deadpool/mokey with k'un l'un actually feels like it might work
wade as tank
I doubt we'll see any more seasons with more than 2 characters after this one though
violet ridge
Although we gave hoods abilities so maybe that suggests he would be sooner? But that doesn’t fit the predictions I’ve been making even if I want to see him
lapis aspen
Quad kill as Scarlet Witch
twilit belfry
violet ridge
Ugh, I haven’t been having the 99 memory issue for a bit but todays been bad for it
violet ridge
I’ve been trying to do matches with Adam but we never seem to have a tank so I end up swapping
runic apex
Ugh, I haven’t been having the 99 memory issue for a bit but todays been bad for...
i noticed you can turn off surface reflections netirely now
violet ridge
played some matches as warlock, it was honestly hard to find times to even play him, did not realize how unpopular tanks were
I'm not the greatest at warlock though, he's got decent damage but that needs you to actually hit your attacks, and I'm unfortunately not that accurate
twilit belfry
What yall think of adam warlock's ult cost?
sly yew
i always thought Mantis didnt feel that bloodthirsty for a mantis person
i could also be wrong if so grim future for her next date...
anyways 
how's the game feeling?
violet ridge
ult cost?
runic apex
violet ridge
What am I looking at?
twilit belfry
i could also be wrong <:vicksyConcern:1324105448890171432> if so grim future fo...
Mantis in the comics was a martial artist, a great one at that, so violins probably comes with
runic apex
What am I looking at?
maple
lapis aspen
when they said ironfist sticks to people I didnt know it like, sticks to them
just played a game as ironfist
and he stick to them
mild pine
He's a sticky man
lapis aspen
I think it's so interesting when people are like "scarlete witch is the noob dps" when like, Ironfist is literally just hold down attack. That's all he needs to do
twilit belfry
I think it's so interesting when people are like "scarlete witch is the noob dps...
To be frank: Iron Fist doesn't exactly have a way to run away
lapis aspen
To be frank: Iron Fist doesn't exactly have a way to run away
3 jumps with 0 cool down and a parry which if timed correctly can block ults
teal mist
And if people wait the one second of blocking he gets nothing and gets imploded
He's Noob Stompy in that coordination counters his whole deal
If folks are letting you hold down attack that's on them, he's got lower dps than half of things anyhow
green junco
Me shooting him in the head regardless of his block, he just dies anyway, or if they dive the team blob
frigid moat
It's hilarious playing in gold because if a rocket shows up the first kill of a team fight just does not matter
green junco
That's why I kill him first
runic apex
they buffed ironfist whyyyy
He now has 300 hp, and made his converd hp cap higher
he is now an auto aiming 300hp melee charcter that does extra damage based on max health
teal mist
That is a lot of buffs good lordt
the bonus HP falling off faster is tough but with more base hp you don't need that as much
runic apex
yeah ironfist is gonna be completely unfun to fight now
runic apex
i don't think making ironfist a tank was the smart move
he has some of the best escape tools in the game, auto aim, self heal, and pretty good damage, as well as a block that blocks everything in the game
teal mist
also goddamn i didn't know storm's self buff was 30% when enhanced
no wonder she was melting people
teal mist
well, everyone i play got buffed, zounds
runic apex
i think they shoudl have reverted the winter buffs
teal mist
maybe at least a portion, he does feel like a lot
teal mist
Ohwait one of the Loki changes is nerf, woe also wait should this all be spoilered aa
lapis aspen
*Ohwait one of the Loki changes is nerf, woe* also wait should this all be spoil...
But he also got a buff of bigger clip
Ironfist definitely didn't need the buff, he was doing fine before.
runic apex
yeah i think the problem was the players were bad
thats why he did so low
he was being played at higher levels just fine by people who used him properly
lapis aspen
The cap buff are interesting, I think he's already really good at what he does and now should be even better at it.
The QoL updates to him sound really nice though (shield midair and no forced ranged attacks)
runic apex
i also do feel that one issue rivals does have and this won't help is i feel antidive isnt that strong
teal mist
Cap's going to be even more of a romp to play, sounds like
runic apex
most of the antidive rely on deployables or landing a important hit that if they miss they can just lose
lapis aspen
Its very often I'm sat wondering what to pick about divers, as it's essentially just Namor and Scarlett witch
As the more you go up in comp, the less effective peni is at anti dive
teal mist
I think part of it is also half the divers have a 'explode this 250-275 hp person in .75 seconds' combo
Magik is
insane
runic apex
I don't think namor is good at anti dive unless its bp or spiderman
well and ironfist
teal mist
as someone that likes an iron fist Namor does feel like a roadblock
he needs to linger longer
but now he'll be better at that :|a
runic apex
a dive char that has a ranged attack can just destroy the squids without issue
teal mist
i don't know how to stop a star lord that aims very well
like at all
he's not even exactly dive
lapis aspen
a dive char that has a ranged attack can just destroy the squids without issue
But that's time they're not shooting your healers at least
runic apex
they do but dive charcters are usally pretty fast that landing shots on them in general can be a hassle
teal mist
lot of times i'll confidently have like 400 hp and just bwomp two people paid attention gg
oh this is an Iron Fist thought
bp is..
i don't know how to deal with that even a bit
a good one just runs his own little game on the supports
runic apex
SG if she roots can kill them, Mk can predeploy his ankh in places
mk actully does work decently as anti dive but i never see anyone use him that way
teal mist
he's very catchable
lapis aspen
BP moves around so much so fast. Like with Magic you at least know where she's going to pop out of portal
teal mist
his mobility is sluggish
magic feels like playing a fighting game a little bit
bp feels like being attacked by a goddamn panther
i'm just thankful not every map has Big Giant Walls To Drop From
runic apex
im kinda sick of spiderman just cause of how many matches i run into him in
when i played yesterday i ran into 5-6 spiderman lords
lapis aspen
When BP arrives I'll generally just go straight up into the air if I have the movement so he can't combo me.
runic apex
yeah thats what i do too
teal mist
the Rocket Manuever
lapis aspen
Spiderman's are very common and usually highly invaluable but it's balanced because both teams have them
teal mist
I am getting tired of Winter Soldier, personally
solves a lot of problems and is easy/fun to pilot so just 1-2 in every game
and a good one is just wUGH
runic apex
i see spiderman more than winter
lapis aspen
Buckys are ruining me. The ones that know how to aim just cause issues no matter where you are
runic apex
i don't think winter needed buffs at all
teal mist
the headshot damage could be toned down and that would be fine still i think
runic apex
that was something i disagreed with even back then
lapis aspen
I didn't think much of it at the time, but the buffs were definitely unnecessary
runic apex
I almost mained him before landing on SG
lapis aspen
He can just pick a squishy to kill pretty much, or even a tank sometimes!
lapis aspen
Just dragging a tank into the middle of his team, 3 head shots, fist, headshots, ball, headshots
violet ridge
Magik is
I keep getting slaughtered by ranged enemies whenever I try to play her unfortunately
she's pretty hard
violet ridge
https://old.reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1irnx3b/s1_second_half_patchnote/
that's a big nerf to magneto's tankiness wow
I've notcied that I don't have the memory issues in competive like I do in standard, I assume that's because the game isn't loading a bunch of other things while trying to load the main stuff
and even then everyone is invisible for a couple minutes which has gotten me killed
runic apex
i think it might be the longer loadtime your given
violet ridge
which also means its really hard to do missions or learn dps characters since by the time your join there's already at least 2 of them
twilit belfry
he is now an auto aiming 300hp melee charcter that does extra damage based on ma...
So better logan?
cunning nacelle
So better logan?
absolutely not, no
wolverine at 100 rage after feral leap does 4.5% of the target's max HP per hit at basically 6 attacks per second for 4 seconds
cunning nacelle
what's not mentioned here is Yat Jee Chung Kuen's base damage was lowered hugely
19 to 10 in exchange for the %health busting
cunning nacelle
any changes to Mr. Fantastic?
yeah he got buffaroonis
green junco
Honestly I just want to wait for the actual changes to come out
Last post I saw of it had the guy toss the whole thing into chat gpt to translate it
cunning nacelle
also true
runic apex
i saw this and it had a few things that wasnt in the orginal
also i kinda hate they keep buffing health on charcters that don't feel like they need it
i don't think hawkeye, ironfist or winter needed it.
green junco
The original missed like half the changes
It's only like a few days away so not long of a wait
teal mist
Yeah I'm not sure how Iron Fist's changes math out
I feel like his 'healers stop literally everything he does' problem is going to be worsened with the 19/10 damage dropoff
1.7% of 250 doesn't quite make it up
like did he need to brawl tanks better, i don't know what the purpose of that change is for
runic apex
Until they oblerate his auto aim and jump ablities i don't think he should be buffed
runic apex
hes not really fun for anyone to fight unless your punisher
teal mist
i like him as every tank, i s'pose, and winter soldier eats him, namor makes his life hell..