#Mahvel Rivals baby

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velvet sinew
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high cooldown charge her own ult, ult that deals damage to ult bar

violet ridge
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supports is definetly the role its hardest to figure out who to make one honestly

wanton salmon
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ive seen a leak that said each of her abilities is semi random

hexed niche
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Also yah the same leak that said she’d be a strategist also said she’d have semi customizable abilities

wanton salmon
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so she could be a stratagist in that shes just weird and guaranteed a hral

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heal

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that she has stolen from someone in the cast

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but you dont know what

hexed niche
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So like, yah seems like rogue would be a more, could do anything depending what you choose

wanton salmon
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so long as she can fly, has melee and more fhan 250 health shes fine imo

hexed niche
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Assuming the leak is correct anyway

wanton salmon
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she could be a weird strategist flex spot like reed

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not a true tank but more health and capable in a melee

hexed niche
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Also I could imagine they want to save any character who can potentially do actual healing for the strategist role even if they do other stuff

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Like characters like Magik don’t even get health back with their passives

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Only bonus health

wanton salmon
hexed niche
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I think only iron fist can heal himself

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Oh and Peni

wanton salmon
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reed heals, iron fists heals, iron man sometimes has healing nanites and machines

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heals others i mran

hexed niche
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Oh I meant gameplay wise

wanton salmon
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ohhh

hexed niche
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Like if a character can heal their allies theyre in the strategist role

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Even if they can do other stuff

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Which rogue with a customizable kit would fall under

violet ridge
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I'll bet next season will be blade/hood, then ultron/(some duelist), then emma/jean then continue with a duelist+alternating tank/healer

hexed niche
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Like if rogue were a duelist, but she could get access to like a Adam soul bond that kinda break one of the rules of this games design

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Where non strategist can’t heal their allies

violet ridge
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yeah, that was my assumption for why they'd put her in strategist as well

wanton salmon
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but if they make her a core healer i will be fucking insufferable

hexed niche
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Oh yah absolutely

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Though she’s also far enough away I doubt this kit is gonna be final no matter what it is

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She’s like, 2 years away minimum

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This is the draft and prototype phase of design

violet ridge
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agreed, there's a real chance that we get unexpected characters who have only begun to be conceived yet before her too

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unless its a super popular character (doom, deadpool) or has clear stuff in the files (blade, ultron) I doubt they're coming anytime soon

glass pollen
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TBH the only thing "off" from lokis abilities is the heals, and even then you can argue its just him sending minions to do his job from him

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still subterfuge or dickery is in built in his moveset and even his invisibility is infinite unless he attacks or puts down a clone

hexed niche
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Honestly I love Loki as a healer because yah

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He’s the scheming villain

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He only gets his hands dirty himself when he has two or when he wants to gloat

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So him basically treating the team as minions is very fun

teal mist
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I just meant it was surprising! Not that I was against

hexed niche
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Ah yah

teal mist
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He does hold his staff like a toddler though

hexed niche
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Also speaking of Loki

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I’ve been looking at rivals TikTok a lot more and I’m kinda surprised to see that Loki Adam is a decently big ship there

runic apex
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that is a wierd ship to me

hexed niche
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It kinda is but honestly is see the appeal

teal mist
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I'm more confused by Bucky/Hawkeye being a thing

teal mist
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It's Cowboy Sniper from overwatch again

hexed niche
teal mist
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Ahhh

hexed niche
teal mist
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Also they have two of the best ult callouts, it only makes sense

hexed niche
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TRUE

wanton salmon
# teal mist I'm more confused by Bucky/Hawkeye being a thing

makes sense to me as the mass appeal shippers tend to want serious non goofy characters with emotional damage and at least semi visable faces, outside of like deadpool.

cap is too old and too american. strange is goofy and not cumberbatch. starlord is goofy and saddled with hisactor giy being overplayed and weirdly christian. wolverine is for the gays as being short and hairy seems to be too much for the straights these days.

spidermans decently popular too

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ive seen gay shippers go wild for wolverine though

glass pollen
wanton salmon
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not necceserily, hence spiderman and adam warlock

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what they want is someone who has trauma and visible beauty but is somewhat serious
a hot guy who you can write about getting fixed via fucking/interacting with other hot guys

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less a war criminal golden retriever, more a kicked puppy twilight costar

wanton salmon
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wish wolverine gets to be actually that height and not have it played as ajoke

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like, not constantly

green junco
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Wolverine is only like 5'3" in the comics\

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Hugh Jackman is 6'2" sadly

wanton salmon
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yeah

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next actor maybe as jackey hughs wont live forever

green junco
wanton salmon
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you know their sex is crazy

green junco
wanton salmon
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theres a reason i still havent watched that movie lmao

green junco
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Piotr is sadly very much lovesick for Kitty Pryde

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I don't think they're together now though

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Wolverine is too tragic for love

wanton salmon
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last time i was keeping up with xmen at all he was in an amazing throuple thing with scott and jean on the moon

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they couldnt show much but the panelling kept having them being implied to share the same bed

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no idea where it went or whats going on now but that ruled

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(thats scott saying "imagine me in a speedo")

lilac snow
wanton salmon
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that was mcu stucky

lilac snow
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Fiiiiine, you have a point

wanton salmon
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have you seen and more importantly heard rivals cap?

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that aint americas ass

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lol

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i wish he had americas ass

lilac snow
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Yeah same, I know they know how to make good cake but the guys are lacking

wanton salmon
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yeaaa

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i dont even like venom that much

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he looks kind of inflated

green junco
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Rivals Cap is the voice actor for pretty much all versions of Cap

wanton salmon
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bbj-ass ass

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and hes playing it up as "hi ho its me captain america"

lilac snow
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Okay yeah Rivals Cap is kinda gruff

lilac snow
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Clicked Stucky tag, MCU Stucky continues doing numbers

wanton salmon
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yeaauup

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where as i havent even seen a unified tag for clint/bucky yet

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probably because the obvious ones are cucky and bint 😌

lilac snow
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We need to go back to idiosyncratic ship names, esp when a portmanteau doesn't fit

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"Squideye" popped into my head but there's gotta be a better one

wanton salmon
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we cant miss out on the glory of Bint

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more seriously, winterhawk

lilac snow
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Yeah that works

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Even sounds kinda cool

violet ridge
mild pine
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What about the wLw ships?

wanton salmon
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not enough social interaction for the gay artists I follow to go for that much lmao

mild pine
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If they are also going with golden retrievers with the most mentally scarred individuals, can't wait to read the Helrel fics

wanton salmon
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the only yuri art ive actually seen from rivals is fem bucky x fem loki

mild pine
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(Hela and Squirrel girl)

sand kelp
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fem loki is just loki! grrr! grahhh!! /silly

wanton salmon
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hey i said fem

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not lady

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but yeah theres a like

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you know the uncanny valley?

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theres a gooner valley

mild pine
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I... know of such places

timber garnet
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What would Allison Wanda Ruth be in Rivals

wanton salmon
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where art of women becomes almost universally solo art of look at hot lady or men fucking the hot lady

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the gay ive seen ships tend to go off traumabonding hotguys , the lesbain ships ive see tend to go off social interaction

mild pine
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awww but lesbian trauma is a great time

wanton salmon
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so one of the big lesbian marvel ships ive seen recently was gwenpool x squirrel girl

sand kelp
wanton salmon
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it all exists no doubt

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but like this is based off what i see get popular

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and im not everywhere

mild pine
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you can have scenes where Squirrel girl is talking about introducing their friend groups to one another and Hela has no one and Squirrel girl shows up with a bunch of other heroes, including Thor.

wanton salmon
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most lesbain artists i see are also more focused on oc x oc

lilac snow
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Magik/Psylocke feel like they should have lines and interactions based on vibes but I haven't checked

wanton salmon
mild pine
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true

twilit belfry
mild pine
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It doesn't help that Dagger comes attached to Cloak

timber garnet
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Tbh i never heard of Cloak and Dagger before Rivals

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I still don't know much about them honestly

mild pine
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I knew about them but not much

teal mist
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I knew them as.. mostly Cloak

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Who was mostly just appearing to move a room full of people from one place to another

timber garnet
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There are also some like Luna Snow who are recent to the universe

mild pine
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God who could even attempt to handle Storm ina wlw ship...

timber garnet
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Jubilee

mild pine
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in game I mean

timber garnet
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Ah

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Hmm

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Yeah good question

wanton salmon
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even scrolling the ao3 theres no consistent wlw ships from rivals lmao

teal mist
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There's not a ton of obvious clicks idk

wanton salmon
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and its mostly either friendship or pw-oap

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the women characters arent made to interact

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the most popular ship ive seen among lesbians from this game is cloak and dagger

lilac snow
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pw-oap?

wanton salmon
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porn with-out a plot

lilac snow
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Ah right

celest wadi
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I usually see that tag as pwp

violet ridge
lilac snow
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Would've probably shortened that to pw/op or pwop

wanton salmon
celest wadi
lilac snow
wanton salmon
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nah doesnt work at ALL

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outside toxic yuri

wanton salmon
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magic was partly raised by old alt universe storm

violet ridge
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there's a bit of an age difference there though

lilac snow
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Right, check

wanton salmon
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they need hte characters to interact

mild pine
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We need more ladies on this rosta

wanton salmon
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sometimes its forreal porn and no one ever fucks at all

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because they dont have to

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and it rules

teal mist
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Yeah Storm is a bit old-school for a lot of this cast

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That's a Queen

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And then a buncha twenty-somethings

celest wadi
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... huh, Storm/Hela?

wanton salmon
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storm does have some big marvel wlw ships, she had a psudocannon girlfriend

violet ridge
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I think storm is typically mid to late twenties alongside Collosus and Nightcrawler (most of the giant sized characters are of comparable ages)

wanton salmon
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also like this is the punk storm lesbians find hot

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which is way more butch than any woman in this game is allowed to look

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that was storms look when she went off for self expresion with her japanese girlfriend and came back with a whole new everything, then became the xmens leader for a while

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that was her knife fight look

teal mist
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Didn't Wolverine also do that

violet ridge
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I japan is in his backstory, not a storyarc on screen

wanton salmon
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wait no i misremember

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that was he knife fight look

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stormXcallisto is a toxic yuri staple for a reason

violet ridge
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literally because they needed someone to read a japanese newspaper and it went from there

lilac snow
teal mist
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Magik's whole look is a little.. Hot Topic-y, I like what they're going for but it's like too clean idk

wanton salmon
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oh yeah right it was storm and yukio god

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"more than friend, less than sister"

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was their quote

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which could mean ANNNNNYTHING im sure

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god i wanna reread the claremont ere stuff agian but i always relied on my older brothers collection and he fukin moved country. digital isnt the sameeee

teal mist
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I love this flat color dark ink look waa

wanton salmon
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RIGHT

teal mist
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Also that's very homosexual activity

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Also Also love when they do the No Pupils thing for Storm

wanton salmon
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its fucked in many ways because 70s/80s but i always reccomend clairmont xmen

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its THE xmen

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even more than their origional appearance to me

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lmao looking at the roster with a like, ship/romantic eye,,,

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i dont think ANY of the rivals women are even attractive to ME, let alone thinking about them with each other and how they would interact socially

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they are all either kids, in commited relationships or literal goddesses

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or like, socially kids

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psylocke is a walking ball of red flags

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same for scarlet witch

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i would not want to date any of these women

celest wadi
wanton salmon
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hell yea

teal mist
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Hela's voicelines ingame kill me

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Pretending not to need healing and then being upset when helped

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She's like a cat

wanton salmon
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i could see squirrel girl and penni actualy

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as squirrel girl is always a kid like her first appearance to me

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but id need to read her gamelore

celest wadi
wanton salmon
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god you know what could work

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hela/mantis

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ultimate befriending the feral cat

teal mist
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And they have the same gameplay too

wanton salmon
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lmao

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they can bond over headshots

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god i wish squirrel girl had either of the designs i really like

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she needs a weird-cute face!!! its like so much of her deal that she is VISIBLY unsettling!

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or at LEAST normal

teal mist
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I find it odd that Iron Fist of all people kind of got the Domino Mask

wanton salmon
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in a world of super models

teal mist
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At least they're not all Overwatch Disneyfaced

violet ridge
wanton salmon
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god, yeah
magiks whole "being groomed" child abuse backstory

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madelyn prior

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just. everything about her. poor maddie i want an au where clairmont!maddie is real

teal mist
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God it's so fun to play Rocket against divers

runic apex
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people underate his gun

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i know theres someone who got ot gm with him doing no damage

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,but

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i think there was 100% times they should have been doing damage

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for example if a thor or venom dives you you should be throwing orbs and shooting your gun at the same time

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beacuse at that range he can do more damage than the punisher

teal mist
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100% worth it to shoot

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Especially because the orbs can only heal so fast

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You can weave bullets in practically free

runic apex
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yeah

teal mist
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And easily the best use of wall run in game maybe idk.. Panther is good too but he's just so ridiculously nimble

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Idk I'm just glad to have interesting healer kits

violet ridge
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rocket is such a pain to hit

teal mist
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I think that's why they sorta gave him a big ol' head

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Hitscan folks eat him

twilit belfry
cunning nacelle
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the desyncerrr

lapis aspen
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The festival event is pretty fun

cunning nacelle
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climbed to Silver 2 today largely off the back of rocket

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when teams are a complete mess, having a revive ticket really takes the wind out of pub pushes

twilit belfry
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Hela should fucking die when we deplete their ultimate health

lapis aspen
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yeah. She gets 1000 health, if you manage to kill her she should die

glass pollen
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one thing that annoys me is that she should plop down stunned out of it

twilit belfry
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I understand that she is the goddess of death but she shouldn't get a get out of death free card

glass pollen
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instead you just spend the next 2 seconds seeing where the fuck she was before to snipe her

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and she might just crow away to hide

twilit belfry
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Maybe she could get her current hp×4 when she ults

runic apex
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the new mode is out

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ok the mode does not explain well at al

lapis aspen
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I think the new mode is pretty self explanitory

runic apex
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its really not

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it does not explain how to pass

lapis aspen
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you shoot the ball towards your team mates

runic apex
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nvm its in the charcter menu

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i already hate this mode

fervent pumice
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First time I've seen this happen

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In a Chinese made game no less

mild pine
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Woo!

glass pollen
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we have storm and tchalla too

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so either they actually want to be comic accurate, they dont have prejudice in the dev team or Disney is breathing down their neck if they attempt to change the skin color

glass pollen
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one thing that kind of surprises me is magneto seems to be

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weirdly chill with half of the cast

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I know he flip flops between being a villain or an antihero but most seem to be rather ok with him

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like of course he has beff with punisher, who fucking doesnt.

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luna just looks for a fight

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but the rest seem to be cool with him?

twilit belfry
glass pollen
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Which I think its reasonable, he doesnt really hate humanity (besides the holocaust), he just wants mutants to have a life where they arent being treated as a danger to the world

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genosha and now Krakoa being his main objectives

twilit belfry
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My favorite interaction is both with Luna and Tony

glass pollen
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luna is kind of off with some of the interactions

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...

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though she also thought Bucky had ice powers..

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and called Squirrel girl thor...

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the hell is up with you, luna?

hexed niche
twilit belfry
hexed niche
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Atm he’s mostly chill but like, he absolutely hated them for a while

twilit belfry
hexed niche
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Yah it’s an Emma frost situation

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The name implies ice powers

glass pollen
twilit belfry
glass pollen
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name

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her outfit fitting the typical "ice queen" trope

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being always some sort of white

hexed niche
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Oh I was talking about Bucky

glass pollen
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I meant emma

hexed niche
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Ah

glass pollen
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at least bucky is just the name

teal mist
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Even her Diamond Form looks Iceman Adjacent

hexed niche
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Yah Emma not having ice powers is very funny

glass pollen
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emma just has everything ice adjacent

hexed niche
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She’s the most obvious ice wielder of all time

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Maybe more then iceman

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But nah, telekinetic and diamond skin

teal mist
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Honestly safer for everyone

hexed niche
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I’m really not sure

glass pollen
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telekinesis is pretty annoying

hexed niche
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Telekinetics don’t have the best track record in marvel

glass pollen
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specially with someone like emma

hexed niche
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They’re all sorta, totally unethical

glass pollen
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yup

hexed niche
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Just violating people’s minds just, every other Tuesday

glass pollen
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professor X is arguably the one with the most strict moral code

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but even then he had his moment

teal mist
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Oh the telepathy part yeah yeah

glass pollen
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When he forced magneto to revive those memories

hexed niche
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Charles is… Ngl Charles has done some genuinely vile shit before

lapis aspen
glass pollen
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jojo stinger moment

teal mist
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Tragically skin sfx are clientside

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But probably better for just overall sound

glass pollen
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I could swear I heard Thors rift

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once

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from the love and thunder skin

teal mist
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>:Tc

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Mayb

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I do believe they show up in deathcams

glass pollen
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probably that

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since you can also see the crosshair

teal mist
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I love checking folks'

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Some absolutely wild looks out there

glass pollen
green junco
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And Emma didnt even start out with the diamond form, it took a while in the comics before that became a thing

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Very big on mind fuckery though from the start

raven summit
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It's a secondary mutation, which is a big thing in lore apparently.

hexed niche
raven summit
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He's done some fucked up shit to Scott and Logan from what I understand.

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But it depends on the continuity.

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I don't want to know shit about Ultimate Charles.

violet ridge
raven summit
hexed niche
green junco
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There's more that I didn't list but it's relatively uncommon but a big deal when it happens

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One of my favorite Emma Frost panels

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There we go

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That took a second

violet ridge
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I hope emma is wearing actual pants she looks like she just forgot to put them on

raven summit
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She wears plenty of suits.

violet ridge
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Emma’s still a bitch but she’s no longer the villain she used to be

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also ugh, I hate the 99% glitch. I joined a match yesterday and the payload was 75% of the way there when I finally joined. We somehow won it (the enemy team was a mess frankly) but yeah I hate not being able to just get into games

raven summit
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Emma is a heroic bitch.

wanton salmon
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or just have crowd control in her non diamon form

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then her diamon form makes her cloak her shield behind and beside her

hexed niche
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Honestly I feel like people really underestimate Hulk shield

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It’s like, 4 seconds of total invincibility and CC immunity for potentially the whole team

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I think people see his jump and assume he’s a dive tank like Venom but the shield and CC really makes me think he’s better as a frontline tank like Strange

glass pollen
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its a disconnect between both gameplays

wanton salmon
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hes a dive tank who wants to dive with someone else and be foghting the rest of the time

glass pollen
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you certainly want to use the bubble more on you

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because the shield on the allies is lower

wanton salmon
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he has aa like 1 second cooldown dive he can reposition in a fight constantly

glass pollen
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like what? 100? 150?

wanton salmon
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so you can dive then instantly undive

hexed niche
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Yah his jump being so low cooldown means you basically always wanna do it

glass pollen
hexed niche
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He’s like, the second most mobile tank behind cap

glass pollen
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its just 100

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compared to magneto

hexed niche
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Well the bubble can affect multiple people

glass pollen
hexed niche
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You only get more value the more people around you

glass pollen
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which is 300

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still a useful bubble

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but it wont save someone from being dived unless cc is involved

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also you have the stun on hulk

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which compared to any other stun

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only YOU can break it

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so you can just get in, stun a supp, then proceed to punch the other supp

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or go for a tank or anything else, leave then in stun and they are out for a few seconds

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there is points to argue as being a backline tank, as there is points to argue you are a diver

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and I think at that point you kinda want to do both every once in a while

hexed niche
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His jump having basically no cooldown means he kinda can do everything at once lol

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Dude can fly around fights

glass pollen
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also if he can aim the jump stun a flier

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but yeah, Gamma shield can be used for both protecting the backline as just being offensive extra health

green junco
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You get a lot of ult charge from it too

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If you use it right

violet ridge
hexed niche
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That just sounds like Reed tbh

glass pollen
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tbh

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if she can go diamond skin

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I can see her getting extra health with that

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or straight up become invulnerable for a few seconds

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if we are going with telekinesis as main power she will probably be similar to invisible woman

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pull/push people or even keep them in the air as a sort of root like squirrel girl does

wanton salmon
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we shouldnt because she isnt a telekine at all

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she has no telekinisis

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and it defines her character and powers vs jean and other psychcics

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it would be fully like giving spiderman a gun "because he needs a ranged attack"

glass pollen
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I just assume power over mental stuff and it applying over everything, apologies

wanton salmon
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sorry lmao

hexed niche
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I assume if they are gonna give her a ranged attack it’s gonna be like a generic mind blast

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The kinda stuff Charles does all the time

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Put her finger to her forehead and a beam comes out you know?

lapis aspen
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Gah discord formatting

lapis aspen
green junco
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Maybe like a point and click stun, a melee stun, maybe melee punching in diamond form

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Aoe trance stun thing as a ult

sand kelp
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making a character revolving around stuns is a great way to fast track them into being the most despised addition

wanton salmon
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cc doesnt have to be stuns

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she could have a telepathy blind like punishers smoke or cloaks purple rectangle

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she could have a single target root that lets targets still shoot or use abilities

she could have a move that masks her in a targets mind making her temporarily (like a second or two) invisible

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she could have a move that creates an illusory copy of a player on her team

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things that dont just stun, and dint just directly prevent damage, but by their use mean people arent dealing damage to your team. tank crowd control

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like thors push, groots root, venoms diving knock up, penis stun, stranges ability to portal a target away if they arent moving

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and she would only need two at most i think

sand oracle
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I bet we'll get a telepath that inverts controls eventually

wanton salmon
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but shes a telepath so just giving her a block shield would be a massive failure of game design

wanton salmon
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more likely they just represent that kind of ability with a stun and push

as actually losing control is not only infuriating its a skill check

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also i wonder if shes gonna be called emma frost or white queen on the menu

sand oracle
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they're already not shying away from it

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I could see it as really hard slow + inverted controls

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so it doesn't really matter, you can't do anything anyhow, but it's got the gamefeel of disorientation

raven summit
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Do crosshairs really matter?

cunning nacelle
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I find the Iron Man one in this vid is crazy useful

runic apex
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id uninstall the game if a invert control cc was added

teal mist
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Inverted is too counterable by practice, needs to adjust what directions mean every .5 seconds

silver helm
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also a proper stun is more damaging as you can still just left click at wherever you were looking with inverted controls

teal mist
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I think that's part of why Mr. Fantastic's ult feels.. unimpactful

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The stacking slow is nice but with the amount of mobility moves and just Gunshoot it doesn't really.. change the game

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( entirely different conversation if he starts it in a small room but hey )

green junco
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It works way better in a low ceiling tight area

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Gotta bait them or jump them in one

cunning nacelle
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Mr. Stretch needs some love for sure

green junco
hexed niche
glass pollen
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couldnt groot help?

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since He can fortnite it up

green junco
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He can also make low ceilings

glass pollen
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still a weird set up

runic apex
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whhyyy

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at least give me charcters i play

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im ok with wolverine

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but hes not really a double killer

glass pollen
twilit belfry
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Some people are kind enough to let you kill them

glass pollen
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cant you also do these missions in ai matches?

runic apex
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when does the rerolls reset?

twilit belfry
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Achievements cant tho

runic apex
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i on'y need one more double

green junco
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Yeah AI makes it easy

steady flame
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Oh yeah for the event thing what spider man thing do you have to do? I tried playing him in Doom match or whatever and it was miserable

steady flame
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Huh

glass pollen
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"Brian Banner sends his regards"

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When Hela kills a enemy hulk

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jesus christ

hexed niche
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Jesus

violet ridge
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wow, that's super twisted

glass pollen
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inconceivable

twilit belfry
teal mist
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I wonder how many matches get the Double Luna Ban

runic apex
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thats wierd that it can happen

teal mist
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Yeah I don't quite understand the logic there

mild pine
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I would actually love an all for one mode where everyone plays one character that it picks from people's choices

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so you have an entire team of caps vs entire team of punishers

lapis aspen
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All Mantis, it's just one fight forever

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Always ulting

glass pollen
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so people want to ban hela at the same time?

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they ban hela

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so its just 3 heroes banned in that match rather than 4

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this only happens if both teams have that mentality

lilac snow
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Yeah LoL does the same but with 5 bans per team (each player gets 1)

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Which has made me imagine the hilarity of 6-12 ban Rivals

runic apex
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idk how rivals does it

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i don't play that much ranked

severe zephyr
cunning nacelle
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being honest, yes lol

hexed niche
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Like so long as they’re not a flyer or flyer adjacent anyway

sand kelp
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i was gonna say hulk could make it out, but charging up that jump takes longer than just accepting your death anyway

hexed niche
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Yah and like, every healer except maybe a god tier Loki is dead

sour forge
silent wren
hexed niche
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I think so

twilit belfry
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You can

runic apex
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you can?

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no where is this mentionde anywhere ever

cunning nacelle
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Shields block LoS for the purposes of abilities

runic apex
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not always

cunning nacelle
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Well they do here

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And that's the important bit

lapis aspen
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I think it depends on how the spell effect works probably. It might also work on Jeff as that's measured from the centre

runic apex
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i don't think it works on jeff

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it doesnt work on moonknight i don't think

lapis aspen
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Its why Jeff can sometimes get people on balconies, as technically the ult has line of sight on them.

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It definitely doesn't work on moonknights ult,as his is projectiles falling from the sky

runic apex
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its a sphere it used to be a cyldinder

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you can jump over his ult actully

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strange can just jump and be out of it

lapis aspen
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I thought it was changed to be a cylinder? So there wasn't a weirdness on the edges or middle?

runic apex
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it was changed to a sphere because of the height

surreal cipher
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...I think it used to be a sphere, and was changed to be a wide, short cylinder?

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Yeah, changed from a 10ft sphere to a 10 wide, 5 high cylinder.

runic apex
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thats strange then

lapis aspen
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It was to make it more consistent

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As before it was really weird to dodge, especially as a flier

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Like, iron man could be 10 feet in the air and still caught by the ult if Jeff was directly under him

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And you could just jump slightly on the edge as anyone and escape it

green junco
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Went from half sphere to a cylinder yeah

raven summit
raven summit
glass pollen
runic apex
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id say bp is the one closest to genji

glass pollen
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tbh psylocke was the child at first because ninja+purple woman

runic apex
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well she does kinda play like sombra

teal mist
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And her main attack feels genji-ish, the ol' right click spreadfire

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Sombra Stealth an Genji Burst, she's terrifying

runic apex
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bp is the one iwth the reset

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and the dash based damage

teal mist
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They split him up amongst the divers

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Cept maybe Spiderman but Spiderman is weird

runic apex
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i think pyslock's wepaon is also more comparable to sombra since its a spread, genji was an accuture 3 shot in a row, and a 3 shot spread burst.

teal mist
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It feels like they combined both of genjis to me

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It's like right down the middle of being accurate and burst

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Girl has a hunting shotgun

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Sombra was firing with one hand and felt like it

runic apex
twilit belfry
lapis aspen
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I got SVP as Cloak and Dagger

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In an incredibly frustrating match, where it felt like I had to play healer and DPS at the same time

twilit belfry
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Ouch

teal mist
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Too many tank games end up feeling that way, solotanking while also somehow in charge of killing every flying enemy and often the healers

green junco
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Dunking on the Luna ult solo

cunning nacelle
violet ridge
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groot has some of the better damage for tanks

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I'd say mags is at the bottom, although thats also impacted by how akwards his projectiles are

teal mist
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Mags does solid per shot and the right click hurts but it's just slow

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Four-shotting healers isn't bad though

violet ridge
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yaeh, the problem is accuracy

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its a lot easier to kill with someone like Penni than Mags

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especially on mobile characters like Rocket

runic apex
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his shots do have aoe though

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also i just noticed how its kinda funny that the tank im best with (mag) and the duelst im best with(Sg) both have aoe but im also accurate with them

violet ridge
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with falloff, and thats only if they detonate mid air not if they hit the ground

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somedays my accuracy is pretty good, but others itts awful

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interested in seeing other ranged tanks like Emma

glass pollen
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with mag you kinda want to pocket someone

cunning nacelle
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Groot has the highest damage potential of any tank if you set up your walls correctly

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He hits very hard

violet ridge
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ugh uninstalling and reinstalling still wasn't enough to fix the 99 glitch

cunning nacelle
violet ridge
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yup

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verifying the files fixed it for like, a session then it went right back to being a problem

cunning nacelle
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That doesn't answer my question

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Haha

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Like, which kind of drive is it on

violet ridge
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sdd

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my harddrive was too full

cunning nacelle
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Hmm okay, that's odd

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How much RAM do you have?

glass pollen
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put it at the lowest possible setting?

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or checked if the ssd doesnt have issues?

violet ridge
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mvp as magneto
our four dps were useless lol

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half the game was me and the healers having to hold out against the enemy team

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put settings on low and it still does that

glass pollen
violet ridge
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I'm not sure what you mean by check it it looks like its working

glass pollen
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let me get something

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Crystal Dew World [en]

About CrystalDiskInfo A HDD/SSD utility software which supports a part of USB, Intel RAID and NVMe. Aoi Edition Standard Edition Shizuku Edition Kurei Kei Edition Download System Requirements OS Windows XP/Vista/7/8/8.1/10/11Windows Server 2003/2008/2012/2016/2019/2022 Architecture x86/x64/ARM64 IE ...

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its a program dedicated to check various things in ssds/hdds to make sure they are operating normally or find errors early to back up files

violet ridge
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it says its good

runic apex
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how much free spae is on your ssd

glass pollen
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probably that too but even then

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not sure what could be your problem

runic apex
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thats kinda why im thinkg to look at random settings

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maybe moving one of them would fix it

violet ridge
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780 GB free on the ssd

glass pollen
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ram size?

violet ridge
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I don't know how you check that

velvet sinew
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Task manager, performance tab. Look under Memory, what's the maximum value?

violet ridge
glass pollen
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probably ram size?

runic apex
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could be

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wait is that idle?

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10 seems like alot when idle

violet ridge
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that is idle yeah, I had internet in the background, youtube

runic apex
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lowering settings might help just to lower ram usage

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these days i think 16 isnt ebough anymore

glass pollen
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I have 16 and I can only have rivals open

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if I have other stuff up it normally hitches on regular play

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and even I put my install through shit like debloat or o&o shut up

runic apex
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i would recomend finding what ram model you have if possible and just buy more sticks of it if you can if not replace entirely

teal mist
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Luckily this is one of the simpler and cheaper problems to have

velvet sinew
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Also, what browser do you use, and are you the type to have 100398938 tabs open?

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Because lots of tabs can cause that

runic apex
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i went on a quest for my ram

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my ram was no longer being sold kinda ish

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cause the company got sold but the company that owned that company did sell a very VERY simlar ram

glass pollen
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depends if you have the ram slots

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since some pcs just have 2, others have 4

violet ridge
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I did lower the setting and didn't help unfortunately

glass pollen
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same ram size

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ok I heard that the webs dont need to be actually connected to each other to make a path

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that is a weirdly big gap

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kinda surprised

runic apex
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one thing you can tactially do is put your thing behind a wall

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then use the mini webs to make it get send out

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the downside of this is if you miss your web shot later in the fight it places one down

glass pollen
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looks like you can make them jump around 2 meters?

runic apex
glass pollen
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I was aware of that

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just kinda surprised that the spiders dont need to have the webs like physically touching

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you know?

violet ridge
glass pollen
runic apex
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i was just kinda posting the idea of a strat with them to just use the webs to bend around corners to keep the nest safe

glass pollen
glass pollen
violet ridge
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ah, I didn't have the game running when it was open

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Peni is fun, I hope she gets a gothic recursion skin

runic apex
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the main thing i want skinwise in general is SG sailormoon

violet ridge
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has she worn a magical girl outfit?

violet ridge
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is that ghost rider in the background?

runic apex
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i think so

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and a toon version of deadpool

violet ridge
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this is just the main menu when rivals in on hikes

runic apex
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show this part so we can see what pgrograms are eating it up

violet ridge
severe zephyr
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Fwiw task manager ram use can be kinda misleading - some programs request a lot more ram than they need and give it up if usage is high enough

runic apex
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click on memory to brnig most ot the top

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it can still be useful to look for outliers

violet ridge
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I assume windows explorer is one of those lol

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I should finish metaphor so I can free up space, haven't played it since novemeber, was really enjoying it to so I don't know why I got distracted like that

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man, teams takes up a ton in the background

severe zephyr
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Yeah fuck teams haha I keep it closed all the time unless it’s being actively used

violet ridge
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its not even being used

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completely forgot I even had it on my computer

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my company stopped using it because things are a mess there, I'm not even working this week because we have no work to do (archaeology company)

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I need to find a new jo but I've just been feeling tired and depressed

glass pollen
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I dont know if its possible in windows 11

runic apex
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i assume you can

glass pollen
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but for example in windows 10 there is this start menu

runic apex
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manauly ou can just remove items from the startup folder

glass pollen
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yeah, you can click on stuff and disable it from starting up

twilit belfry
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What's yall thoughts on people calling supports being overtuned?

runic apex
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they are correct

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i don't think its full on overwatch nobody dies outside of ults

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but healing ults univserially need a hit

teal mist
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Healing ults always change a fight, other roles have to get like.. good ones

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( healer ults being the big 3, Luna Mantis IW, also Loki technically)

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And honestly Mantis just might do too much damage? Idk what is pushing her above the others exactly she's just so efficient and effective

cunning nacelle
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I think it really boil down to stalling ultimates like the ones listed being game warping

runic apex
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i think mantis is really fine outside of her ult

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but right now we have 4 "nobody dies for 8-12 scounds" ults

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CD,mantis,invisable woman, luna, and loki can just copy them

lapis aspen
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as she only gets 4 life orbs. Like she's a good healer but she's not consitent unless you have good aim.
And if you don't play her you might get an idea of how much damage she does based on when she gives herself a damage boost (costs a life orb). Rather than her base damage

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Mantis's ult could probably be brought down to a burst of healing and bonus health rather than 8 seconds. As the 8 seconds is incredibly silly

lilac snow
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Cap is a tank with a support-style ult

glass pollen
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honestly

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i think the real problem is that the support ults have to be big numbers or they become useless

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most of them get like 250, the only reason you die is because you get hit by 250 in one instant

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cloak and dagger is 220 per second on a dedicated area
invisible woman is 165 per second, the invisibility picks up from that lack of numbers
luna snow is 250, basically making her inmortal unless you swap to damage boost or one shot her with stuff like the ironman ult

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mantis is.... weird now that i look at the hard data

violet ridge
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I wonder when we'll get the peach momoko skins they showed off a while back

steady flame
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Idk if it’s Kiriko ptsd or something but I hate hearing Peni talk. Like, the VA does an objectively good job I just do not like listening to her

hexed niche
teal mist
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Which look was that

violet ridge
teal mist
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seems a lil cute for Ultimate I do not recall this, nice look tho

hexed niche
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It’s from the new ultimates

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In that ultimate x-men are following Japanese school girl mutants in a small town

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While a sinister cult is forming around mutants

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It’s written and drawn by Peach Momoko

teal mist
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There's something just not satisfying about Namor's basic attacks

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There's no oomph to any of it

teal mist
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Also trying to learn Iron Fist and people keep bringing Triple Support to goddamn QuickPlay orz

green junco
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The sinister cult is an analog to the brotherhood of mutants basically, with shadow king at the center

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New ultimate X-Men is sick

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What I want is a New Ultimates Wolverine skin

mild pine
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Unlocked King Magnus

teal mist
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It's a great look, and love how it changes the melee

timber garnet
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I'm in the process of unlocking the Iron Man suit

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Blood Edge?

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Whatever

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It looks great

mild pine
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Ah yeah that's got such a cool vibe on it

violet ridge
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I like the gothic recursion skins, hope that my mains gets some

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I play the ranged tanks

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particularly Penni and Magneto

runic apex
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peni probally isnt

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both those chars arleady got skins this season

violet ridge
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it was just a recolor though

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but yeah, probably the ones who didn't will get something

runic apex
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im starting to think magik just isnt good

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her risk for reward ratio isnt very good

mild pine
teal mist
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I think being able to portal even slightly vertically would solve a lot of Magik Troubles, but I think she's doing alrighty

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her burst is so potent and works well in a brawl too

runic apex
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she feels really awkard

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she feels honestly like she was a really early charcter they never polished

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she needs more hp

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she has the worst melee surviablity by far

fallow stump
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Yeah

runic apex
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her ult is trash

fallow stump
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Eh idk I like her ult but too easy to die in her ult

teal mist
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I'd pull bucky back to 250 hp and push her up to 275

runic apex
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she screams loud saying "KILL ME I ONLY HAVRE 250 HP AND IM EASY TO KILL"

teal mist
runic apex
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why does storm get 600 hp on her ult an ult that im not sure you could kill her if she was at 1 hp

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magick? gets zip

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and in order to get actully decent dps you need to spend pretty much all her cooldowns to barely kill a 275

cunning nacelle
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And she has a respectable amount of matches to back that

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She's an excellent character but has a very high skill cap

runic apex
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that surpises me that she is rated that high

glass pollen
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let me get the list

cunning nacelle
runic apex
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namor was another one i was suprised was rated so high but he got bumped back down to c

glass pollen
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this is grandmaster and above in pc comp

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the fuck is inro fist doing up here?

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i have no idea

runic apex
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bad pick rate

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so basicly only the monsters play him

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i still think SG is really underrated

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i think people play her too much as a bombardment

glass pollen
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tbh she is lenient to kind of be that way

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junkrat mains

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or demoman mains that actually use the pipe launcher

runic apex
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maybe its cause i mainde genji and cole i see her diffrently

glass pollen
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the ones that used the sticky launcher are with peni

glass pollen
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i rarely see people offensively throw mines

runic apex
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i know seagul recently player her in comp and he is much more agressive

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he also mained genji

glass pollen
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you also have rocket otp

runic apex
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peni is someone i know im bad with

glass pollen
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apparently he became well known enough he got target banned enough to change his name

runic apex
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namor is someone i really thought be overrated him at A

glass pollen
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like, take it as a compliment if people go to target ban you specifically

runic apex
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wait is there not a mine cap?

glass pollen
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I think its like 7, or 8?

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my brain says 12 but I think that one is when ult is active

runic apex
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i know your talking about the demo man but you can kinda market garden with her ult

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just drop in ult the supports point blank

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a good example of people underrating her is ML7 going "she has issue securing killing" and mainly talks about people grouping up

glass pollen
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or flats always saying she can only do defense

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and even then she doesnt do it "that well"

runic apex
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when people talk about anti dive she isnt even part of the conversation people are just like "yeah play namor"

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she has a root and can kill any 250 hero just by rooting them

glass pollen
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then if you see him playing as cap in his alt he keeps complaining over how the penis in metal ranks are degenerates

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mining a random spot with 5 mines

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or how a wolverine has to get out asap if he tries to dive you while you have your nest up

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or die/waste the second life

teal mist
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I think she's real reliant on a good team compared to other tanks

runic apex
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i did think about that

glass pollen
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fair enough take

runic apex
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how she might be a litle bit of win more

teal mist
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She's a great support structure for a solid team

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it's an odd spot

runic apex
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or she is a disbalancer

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she cant tip over the enemy team but she can put them off balance

glass pollen
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or if not disbalance them

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secure kills if they back off

teal mist
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Also fun if you have a Bucky/Spiderman/Wolverine

glass pollen
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then you are in those weirds peni vs peni

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and both of you are like

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"I SEE THE ENEMY NEST, ITS ON FUCKING SIGHT"

runic apex
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yeaah i actully did that once

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i kept pulling in people into the nest

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this is one game i had recentlyish and just look at my last and solo kills

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shes really good at just going "no you do not get to go back for heals"

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i think necros is the one that seems to respect SG the most

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otu of the major streamers

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most just rank her At C

glass pollen
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really?

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kinda surprised

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unless squirrel girls just come over thanks to him maining spidey and the team up is a thing

runic apex
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he said he has a friend that is really good with her, one thing ive noticed is a lot of them just havent given her a chance

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again back to the demoman thing

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you can sorta to erase people double hit people at once if your one lucky or god like

glass pollen
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yeah I just find it surprising necros would call her good

mild pine
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to me Squirrel girl is like the soldier TF2.

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Put them in the hands of someone basic and they're mid to low, but the ceiling is higher than people dare think

runic apex
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i just found a video of someone watching rank 1 SG and hes like "its probally gonna involve lots of spam" the SG player proceeds to outsnipe a namor and snipe flyers out of the sky

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the thing about the drop attack is most supports if they don't see you ult they arent gonna pop their ult on reaction to an sg ult

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there is also a thing where you can hit a wall bounce it onto an enemy right as your geting a direct hit so you get 220 burst damage in what feels like a single hit

teal mist
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Also some corners turn the ult into like 450 instantaneous damage

runic apex
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like the syombite pit

glass pollen
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honestly I wonder if they should lower the life ofthe squirrel stampede

runic apex
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thye already did to 300

glass pollen
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or make the hitbox bigger

runic apex
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it was 600 before

glass pollen
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because I dont think i saw a stampede being killed directly

teal mist
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It's really a per character thing

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Punisher just evaporates it

glass pollen
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people either die by it

runic apex
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people ignore it as well

glass pollen
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or wait it out

runic apex
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or maybe don't know you can shoot it

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i shoot them and kill them pretty easily

teal mist
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Yeah I think a lot of it is people still getting used to it doing anything

runic apex
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most SG players just throw it from across the stadium

glass pollen
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I remembere trying to kill it and not being sure if i land shots on it

mild pine
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Oh fox I got MVP once from squirrel girling into the pit in the middle of the wakanda map that has a destructable middle? It's like a little pit. Apparently there were three supports down there and the bounces just deleted them all because they were all in a tight place.

glass pollen
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the one that looks like a temple?

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not the one that is all rocks or the one with the flying ship

mild pine
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The one that is sciencey

glass pollen
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yeah that one

runic apex
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yeah i know that one with the little area yeah

mild pine
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yeah you destroy the pillar and it becomes a hole in the floor with a room and a jump pad

teal mist
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For some reason that map always feels one-sided

mild pine
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Ult fell in the hole and deleted three supports because it was running wild

glass pollen
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I hid down there sometimes as Wanda in a attempt to PUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECHAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

runic apex
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i got my hexa from 4 kills on that little side area on klyntar and 2 direct hit kills

teal mist
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So many hit noises

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Playing Groot into SG just seems self destructive

runic apex
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whats really funny is when a rocket or jeff ride goot

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that might be the most single hardest counter in the game

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is SG just shooting groot during that

mild pine
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Come on Thingy get in the game ;-;

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I wonder if they'd give him this outfit.

silent wren
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'Definitely Not The Thing' skin?

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Actually that could be a whole skin line

mild pine
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It's more his Noir detective stuff

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good old greatcoat

silent wren
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ah. There's a Noir Thing comic?

mild pine
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Ben sometimes does street work, I'm not sure of the comic exactly

main parcel
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Yes or No: As Luna, Mantis, CD, or Sue, you should always sit on your ult to count big attack ults like Strange, Storm, etc. Even if you're losing a firefight you should just give up that fight, becasue if you spend a defensive ult without countering a big attack ult, you won't have it and will just lose the fight when the enemy DOES ult.

runic apex
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id say ult if everyone is really low anyways because if they do use an ult like that later theres o 100% that ult will even do anything

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but if you know using your healing will stop you form losing the current one you should

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for all you know the next time strange ults he gets instantly denide

lapis aspen
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Different characters have different times they should ult based on ult charge time. CD gets their ult much faster than other healers

cunning nacelle
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I'll be real, CD ult and the disjoint are the only reasons I rate them at all

lapis aspen
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I think CD are good beside the ult. They can deal with divers, auto aim lets them heal high mobility heroes, they have a great piece of AoE healing (provided allies know to stand in the healing bubble). Their escape option is really good

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But they're like a normal hero without the ult. With the ult it makes them just really unfun to fight against because it just stops the fight for like 16 seconds (time from when they start ulting to the end of it)

cunning nacelle
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it's honestly mid

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Seagull rates them C tier and I agree

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I think in every practical case, especially triple support, I'd prefer Loki

twilit belfry
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Man, this Winter Soldier guy sure does a lot of damage, good thing he only has 3 ammo per reload, imagine if he had infinite ammon

sand oracle
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CD are my go to when I have to heal either flying characters or really intense divers like iron fist or venom

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like, I am bad at the game but I cannot consistently hit iron man to heal him when playing loki

steady flame
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Dagger is good for me because my aim sucks and at least with her I can’t miss my healing for 5 seconds. It makes it easier to heal while people are trying to kill me

glass pollen
lapis aspen
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MVP as Peni. I love spider mines so much

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I need to get better at escaping with the wall grab and placing a nest during a fight though.

glass pollen
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put it behind you and body block the nest if you are planting it in a hectic fight or if there isnt any walls close by

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even if they shoot at you the web still heals you a little bit

lapis aspen
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I'm already pretty good at body blocking the nest, but in some fights I put it down and it's just gone. But in those scenarios I should probably just be backing off a bit

raven summit
steady flame
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That will be his summer outfit

main parcel
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Swim trunks and a snorkel replacing his face mask.

steady flame
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His arm will shoot pool noodles instead of tentacles

violet ridge
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doing truouble shooting and yeah, the 99% issue seems to be memory

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I get to 97% of memory used

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its freakishly inefficient

violet ridge
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7k MB for memory jeez

violet ridge
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had a funny game where I neede to swap to dps because we had too many tanks and needed to break through

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magik is fun

glass pollen
# violet ridge its freakishly inefficient

I mean if you want I can send you some optimization stuff, but I dont know if you will even want or feel safe using it since it needs to get Admin rights and changes shit in the OS itself

green junco
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"I got it bro, chill"

violet ridge
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found reddit

fervent pumice
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I can feel a dps bias here

runic apex
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Its kinda true, a lot of the supports are really easy to play if you just healbot

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and a lot of support mains arent as good as they think

fallow stump
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Friend of mine would.play loki n he was goated

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But he doesn't like rivals much and I haven't played in ages either.

runic apex
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some healbot too much, lack awareness, run away from their team instead of towrds when they get dived, panic when they do get dived

timber garnet
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Can confirm, a competent Punisher can be pretty good

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Very basic but nonetheless capable of dealing a lot of damage

runic apex
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i find him really boring

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only time i play him is in comp to counter ironman/storm if the other team is playing both

timber garnet
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Boring doesn't mean he can't be potent

green junco
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I think its different skills

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between strat and duelist

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Or I guess there's more to both roles than just dps and healbotting

runic apex
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it is, but i feel where someone needs to improve is a bit more numberersy on damge compared to support

teal mist
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mantis is exception, as her healing skills are murder

green junco
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I think it does require more to succeed as a strategist compared to a duelist

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Both have overlapping skills, like understanding tempo, positioning, movement, but strategist have a generally harder time carrying imo

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On their own I mean

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You could win a fight with a good luna ult but if your duelists are ass, you may not be able to make ground

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On the flip side, a good punisher can definitly do a lot more

violet ridge
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I usually play Adam when I have to heal since he's very straightforwards

runic apex
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i think hes the least straight forward due to his being on long cooldowns

green junco
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I mean not having to balance your dps to heal shooting is nice

mild pine
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Woo! Managed to show off the Magneto MVP

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only a day after unlocking it

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I truly am the Master of Magnetism

mild pine
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Giving Sue a go on the escort spiderzero map

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loki set up a bunch of clones on the final push area where the weaver is, just above the pit

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used the vortex to pull all of the clones off, then when Loki shot at my team I used my pull and yoinked him into the void too

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trickster god my ass

hexed niche
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So if they ever do a MCU skin for Ultron, his MVP is definitely gonna be the “what doesn’t kill you” scene right?

green junco
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I really enjoyed MCU Ultron, James Spader is really good at capturing him, but his design man videogames

violet ridge
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I'm surprised that there's people out there who really think that Locus as a character is a legitimate leak that's going to happen

lilac snow
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But Paste-Pot Pete is real, right? Right?

runic apex
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my theory is they are likely to be in the game at some point but not as charcters

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that some leakers might be just seeing a word and going"they will be a charcter"

lilac snow
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Though if Pete turns out to be Rivals Singed that'd be pretty funny

runic apex
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instead of thinking "oh they are problaly just some flavor dialog somewhere"

twilit belfry
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When Colossus gets into the game, Magneto should Fastball special him

lapis aspen
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I know you meant him using magnet powers to move him, but I just imagined Colossus picking up an old man and hammer throwing him

twilit belfry
mild pine
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Magenta ability where he moves faster towards colossus and colossus moves faster away from magneto

lapis aspen
mild pine
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Eyyy good job

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Got him to waste that ult too!

lapis aspen
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I think that was more of a panic ult

mild pine
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Oh definitely, but making him panic ult was a great result. Could a Quad AND wasted their healer's ult? Great stuff

lapis aspen
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back in platinum too

sly yew
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For now vicksySmug you wont stay that for long, wanna know why?

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||cause ur a god gamer vicksyAAAA u deserve a higher rank!||

mild pine
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is there a gold reward for this season?

green junco
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Yeah its a Sue skin

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Honestly pretty cool looking

steady flame
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I just want the human torch to be released. I am so curious about what his kit will be

supple heron
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yeye

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i wonder if The Thing can also do the fastball special

twilit belfry
green junco
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no

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I think

green junco
steady flame
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Oh you’re right

hexed niche
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Definitely feels like whole wolverine is a tank shredder, he really is the groot counter in specifically

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Groot is kinda fucked if he ever gets kidnapped by wolverine