Mahvel Rivals baby

[green junco]

Literally every character in the game had a venom version

Minus Luna

And maybe Lin Lee?

[teal mist]

Idk if they'd make them entirely new characters

All-Butcher Loki is a skin

[dense wolf]

God, now I want M'Baku

[violet ridge]

Symbioses would be skins

[raven summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/lYPqPWYFIZk?si=ta263quGaJct2DHY

[hexed niche]

I do want a black suit Spiderman skin at least

[raven summit]

I feel we'll get Captain Britain Betty.

[dense wolf]

I wonder if Apocalypse or Juggernaut would work

[hexed niche]

With the leaks showing we’re getting paste pot Pete I’m hoping we get more scrimblo rogues gallery members

[violet ridge]

That feels inevitable

[dense wolf]

I know we already have Luna Snow but

[wanton salmon]

left click: optic beam, like ironmans beam, maybe a differentiating gimmick like "increase range and damage as you hold it down" or somethign

right click: optic blast, single more powerful hitscan zap on a cooldown

passive: kinetic dimension, whenever you use a damage move on the ground and stationary, gain increasing damage up to like 25%, whenever you use one in the air, gain a kinetic hop charge

passive : beam hop, shoot a beam downwards to boost up into the air. three charges. hold space to use all charges for a powerful jump then hold space to control your fall while shooting a continous aimable beam

shift: Optic Swerve, left click to dash and push yourself back with a powerful kinetic beam, right click to spin and push yourself forward likewise

e: GET UP, X-MAN!, with a slap on the back and a kind word zap an ally with controlled kinetic force, granting them 75 shield and a minor speed boost

q/ult:GET OFF MY LAWN, visor comes off for a WIDE continous beam that slows your movement and is slow to aim

[violet ridge]

Paste pot Pete?

[wanton salmon]

paste pot petes name is in the files, but hes not confirmed

[hexed niche]

Yah admittedly that’d be absolute peak

[wanton salmon]

hes a LONG TIME new york villain, mainly for hte fantastic four but he gets around

[hexed niche]

A FF villain also know as the trapster

[wanton salmon]

rebranded as the trapster but everyone calls him paste pot pete still and he hates it, drives him into a rage

[hexed niche]

He has a glue gun

[green junco]

I mean that was already a thing

[timber garnet]

Batman

[hexed niche]

His main gimmick is being the least respected villain in all of New York

[wanton salmon]

he has a glue gun, a lube gun, a glue shotun, mines, appearance changing disguises, shape memory allow wire traps, sometimes a goofy hover scooter, often makes paste-glue-walls or can even swing like spiderman or grab someone with a paste lasso

a sirprisingly good set of abilities for a shooter like this

[glass pollen]

hopefully if they add redhulk and all these others hulks

they give him the proper outfits

like johny fixit

[hexed niche]

I want the master mostly

He’d be a neat support

[teal mist]

Nono that's what I meant, they're not going to make them a whole new Symbiote Character

[green junco]

In Thor #6, Loki gets the necrosword aka first symbiote

[wanton salmon]

honestly i think the game could maybe two more full hulks before but we could have so many skins for the other hulks

[green junco]

Ahh

There's been multiple times where most of the main ish characters got symbiotes

[hexed niche]

She Hulk and red Hulk are probably on the list for hulks

[wanton salmon]

honestly my picks for true hulks would be She-Hulk and A-Bomb

[raven summit]

Uhh... I feel Cyclops could be a bit like Mcree.

[wanton salmon]

as Rick Jones A-Bomb has massive history as the avengers group sidekick

but abomination and she-hulk feels likel

[teal mist]

They already have one, it's Mantis

[green junco]

https://tenor.com/view/x-men-97-scott-summers-cyclops-gif-4385726358969205226

It's high noon

[wanton salmon]

honestly id bet hed be a beam character with a team boost

[raven summit]

Yeah his ult could be similar. The charge up being hom taking of his visor.

[hexed niche]

Also if we get cyclops, plz be hair out cyclops and not head covered cyclops

He looks so much better with his hair

[green junco]

"TO ME MY X-MEN" AOE damage boost

[wanton salmon]

yeah hes gotta have that as a shout

[hexed niche]

To me my x men is absolutely a team up with storm and wolverine

[raven summit]

He could be a support dps like Storm.

[wanton salmon]

he could honestly have a support ult as TO ME MY X-MEN, damage boost, zap everyone with controlled kinetic energy to give allies in an aoe a shield

[mild pine]

I've had two crashes today

one where scarlet witch ult'd and killed my computer. full reset

[wanton salmon]

i had one terrrrrible game earlier, complete desync, i was invaunrable and unable to deal damage for half the match

[green junco]

Hahahahahahahaha

[green junco]

That's so funny I'm sorry

[sour forge]

pure disk corruption

[green junco]

Too much chaos

[wanton salmon]

i really want scott to have a beam attack, a kinetic energy dash and/or jump and a move that boosts his allies to rep being a leader, but otherwise he has so many options

as his power is a portal to the kinetic energy dimension and hes the team leader

hes one of the characters who looks simple but can do so much

[green junco]

Honestly I think netease have been cooking so far design and ability wise

[wanton salmon]

except sue

shes strong and fun

but she sucks as invisible woman

reed grants more shields and her main ability is healing

[hexed niche]

Also if we get Scott, plz have a casual outfit with the red glasses

[green junco]

I think Sue as a high skill ceiling manipulator who can also run the fuck away is great

[wanton salmon]

well and except storm

who shouldnt be a fucking buff character

[green junco]

Sue also wins every fight if the F4 were going all out

Just vaporize everyone

[wanton salmon]

i think it would be great if she didnt heal and had shield abilities

shes very strong

and fun to play

but she doesnt play much like the comic or cartoon versions of her usually are written to fight

[hexed niche]

I mean that’s true of like, half the cast

Like, dr strange

[wanton salmon]

and im honestly annoyed reed doesnt have A SINGLE science ability

[green junco]

No I'm talking within a F4 free for all

[hexed niche]

Ah

[green junco]

Sue wipes the floor

[hexed niche]

I thought you meant them as a team

[dense wolf]

I can't wait for Emma, I need the beef

[wanton salmon]

i wish she got a single ability to reshape a summoned shield, which is her most used power

[green junco]

Can't you like recall her front shields to recharge and reuse them?

[violet ridge]

Oh trapster

[wanton salmon]

i would say recalling isnt reshaping

[green junco]

Reed in the comics when he has to actually fight tends to do the whole punch wide reed shit tbh, but yeah science is also his thing too

[violet ridge]

I’d give the reds heavy guns and the greens brawlers

[green junco]

I get what you're saying though

[raven summit]

I feel Sue doing bonus health could have worked.

[violet ridge]

But I think there’s a ton of others I’d rather see first,. And the addition rate will likely be slow unfortunately

[green junco]

It is technically sue giving reed bonus health with the teamup

Its been faster than OW at least

[severe zephyr]

Honestly lost track of how comparatively conservative the official one is because people made so many horny edits of Reed’s outfit

[wanton salmon]

right?

[wanton salmon]

but what it actually is is giving sues shield someone ability just ot reed

if her healing was ballanced to be that for everyone i would have no powerset complaints for her

[violet ridge]

I suspect the rate will likely be 8 per year

[wanton salmon]

same as how reed needs one science ability even if its tiny

[severe zephyr]

https://x.com/itsjordytf/status/1877811785677394288?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ
I think this one I can get away with posting

Glade (@itsjordytf) on X

Mister Fantastic joins the roster as the newest duelist in #MarvelRivals season one!🧬

Twitter · Jan 10, 2025, 8:16 PM

[green junco]

If everyone's good, it's all balanced

[wanton salmon]

like if he had an idk jet boot double jump

[severe zephyr]

People made like fuckin dozens of these

[wanton salmon]

yeah but bonus health shields are way more powerful and ballance differently in general to returning lost health with healing

but they can be ballanced for that

or just re-use the existing shield bubble that magneto and hulk have but the inviisble woman doesnt, which still blows my mind

[raven summit]

Like what?

[mild pine]

she does at least have a bit of a shield

but yeah... shields

[severe zephyr]

Ultimate nullifier damage dealing taunt clearly

[wanton salmon]

making something, deploying something, anything with his science and invention

[hexed niche]

Sorry I misread that

[raven summit]

Oh... hmm.

[wanton salmon]

i would have given him an ultimate nullifier as his ult, which he never uses but does a mass stun as he pulls it out and scares everyone

then puts it away

[hexed niche]

I wonder if he might get one via a team up with Ben or Johnny

[mild pine]

"I'LL USE IT!" while waving that shit around

[green junco]

Hawkeye shooting him in the head

[wanton salmon]

or honestly, i would have kept him mostly the same but swapped his personal damage boosting ability for a deployable healing station like rockets tech, and make him a support

along with the nullifier ult

[severe zephyr]

Lmfao that’s great

[violet ridge]

No more rivals

[hexed niche]

He doesn’t have a personal damage boosting ability

[severe zephyr]

I think it’s Big Mode

[wanton salmon]

he has the "get big and deal extra damage" ability

[hexed niche]

Ah you meant big mode

[green junco]

Gears 4

[hexed niche]

I’m gonna be honest, that would ruin his entire kit

Big mode is kinda what glued together everything

[green junco]

Super wide reed

[wanton salmon]

it would ruin his kit as an off tank/ds yes, thats what i want, as i said id make him an offtank/strategist support

hed need some reballancing and would be different

[runic apex]

a tanky healer is not fun to fight

[wanton salmon]

thats why he doesnt heal

he deploys a weak easily killable healing station

like pennys spider nest

[green junco]

Make him brig but his ult instead of big shield is gears 4

[wanton salmon]

and has to protect that with his tanky body

[green junco]

So like rocket but instead of slippery, he's a tank

[wanton salmon]

in my imagined version

yeah

then his ult is the mass stun of threatening to use the nullifier

giving your team time to run to the healing station and all heal

maybe it stuns the enemy immobile and turns off all combat in a big aoe, so your team gets to heal

but it doesnt make it one sided becuase NO ONE in the aoe can fight while reed gives a speech about the nullifier/fighting galactus/being the smartest man in the world/etc

[green junco]

Honestly, that sounds cool but also would annoy the crap out of me

[wanton salmon]

probably best to make it non stun/rooting

[green junco]

Regardless of if he's on my team or not

[wanton salmon]

so everyone can just walk away but your team can walk and heal

[teal mist]

He's being full MISTER FANTASTIC

being all bodacious and 'HAH-HAAAH'

Reed is at home

[green junco]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-fan4stic-fantastic-four-the-thing-say-that-again-gif-9345984830195785978

[wanton salmon]

pictured: reed mugs galactus for the earth

[teal mist]

god i like the classic look so much more than Fluffy Reed, it feels like outta character

but i guess they've been in Nightmare Dracula Dimension

[green junco]

Reed tried to use the nullifier on some celestials once and they killed him lol

(another universe reed when the council of reeds got nuked)

[fervent pulsar]

my favourite Galactus interaction is and always will be Ghost Rider appearing from fucking nowhere to give a sick one-liner and one-shot Galactus with penance stare then leave

[green junco]

Reed Alpha specifically

[fervent pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f73P7b9k0xI&t=1s

he doesn't even get off his bike

[teal mist]

does this imply Galactus feels guilty about his eating

[fervent pulsar]

yes

[teal mist]

he's just hungy v-v

[fervent pulsar]

he immediately is KO'd by Penance Stare

[green junco]

Oh yeah Danny Ketch rider

Galactus needs to feed the tapeworm so he can reproduce

[fervent pulsar]

EXPERIENCE THE TORMENT... OF A BILLION BILLION... EXTINGUISHED SOULS

[green junco]

And because it makes him hungy

[hexed niche]

One of my favorite Galactus’s was in the Waid run where he lost the power cosmic and the FF tried to reform him while he was basically human

And he’s just kinda an asshole

[teal mist]

i don't think being a Galactus socializes you very well

[green junco]

Not really a coveted position

[hexed niche]

Like he’s in a museum for some of the greatest human art and he’s just like “yah this is ok, for a species as primitive as you”

[wanton salmon]

aalso thinking more and i think this is rubbing me up the wrong way, as reed is not and has never in any universe been "the fun one"
you shouldnt be able to call reed "bodacious"
thats johnny

[teal mist]

Reed has fun!

[wanton salmon]

reed is the boring shitty old 60s man who only saves it by being nearly as good as he thinks he is

[teal mist]

He can be campy, he wants a fun public facing image

[wanton salmon]

yeah but its clear that is what he wants his public image to be

as a dude he is an amazing asshole

i like the ff

used to have the old origonal giant size

still do actually, somewhere

[teal mist]

it's much sillier to have The Maker skin with these lines

[hexed niche]

I mean his personality isn’t really blow hardy, he’s fully earnest

Which feels very Reed imo

[wanton salmon]

god i hope johnny gets his stupid rap refernced in a emote or mvp also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38VBv0ZenZU

[hexed niche]

He feels like he’s genuinely amazed at what he’s doing and what he’s seeing

[wanton salmon]

this feels like an edit but its real and was in the cartoon, just like this

[green junco]

I mean I've posted science five at least twice

[teal mist]

love the type of animation that feels held together with tape

though there are honestly a weirdly high amount of frames in this

[wanton salmon]

i hope hes a vanguard on his bike all the time

but the bit that makes science five so good is ben being there and making the face at it

[green junco]

Yes

One of my favorite ability is seeing sues ult go down and then "PYIUUURREEEE CHHHHAAAAOOOS"

Or even better, Jeff eats the enemy team and then shoots them into witch ult

[dense wolf]

I get to pluck Iron Man and Wandas out of the sky with noodle arms

[green junco]

It's funny

[twilit meadow]

I love being a healer I love getting yelled at by DPS who keep peeling where I can't see them

Like no, I'm not following you on a dive lol

[vast geyser]

Whenever people complain at me like that I think of this

https://i.imgur.com/papIN9z.jpeg

[teal mist]

This is why I like playing Rocket

On some maps, the healing just kind of finds them

'take that, general vicinity'

[sour forge]

idk what Strange is meant to do beyond alternate m1 and m2 but somehow I contribute to the team

[twilit meadow]

That's mostly it

Cloak and portal for mobility and general shenanigans

Shield is obvious

Primary fire is high damage

And dark magic burst can get some surprise kills

Mostly you'll want to be doing damage until you go below half health, then shield until your supports top you off

[sour forge]

yeah I was shocked at how much numbie strange can put out if your aim's good

[runic apex]

your melee is extnede range and each hit also builds 10 energy and you can do it inbetween primary fire

[hexed niche]

You can also animation cancel your gun with your melee

[twilit meadow]

Yeah that

[hexed niche]

This charges black magic even faster

He’s a legitimately great damage dealer once you start doing that

[twilit meadow]

Much like Reed is a DPS pretending to be a tank, Strange is a tank pretending to be DPS

[hexed niche]

You can kinda just run at people and most can’t do much about it

Combine that with the eye of agamotto being maybe the best team fight ult in the game

And the versatile utility of portals

[sour forge]

yeah Eye's combo potential with any remote amount of followup is uh

pretty deece

[twilit meadow]

Appropriately, he combos very nicely with Wanda

You can use portals or the eye to set up Wanda for a team wipe

[raven summit]

Oh!

I want Carnage, but if they can't ad him, they can add Normie and Rascal.

Because adding Carnage could be a pain story and lore wise.

https://youtu.be/CrL1cWC3_7w?si=ZVsPAVlX1dX9uw3i

[violet ridge]

How so? He’d be a dame symbiotic unlike the tank venom

[raven summit]

They're cute!

[violet ridge]

Red goblin

[vast geyser]

I wish for an entire spider team

Everyone just running on walls at them

[wanton salmon]

we only need 2 more for thtat

[raven summit]

Yeah, I was thinking melee dps or an off tank like Reed.

[wanton salmon]

we need a spider support too

[raven summit]

Probably Gwen or one of the Spider Women.

[wanton salmon]

eaurgh

[raven summit]

Madame Web?

[wanton salmon]

u really dont want every woman to be a support

*i

sorry

but madam web i guess would be better

[raven summit]

Also yeah, fair!

[wanton salmon]

trying to think about spiders who can heal

[raven summit]

Uhh...

[wanton salmon]

if its madam web i want it to be cartoon madam web

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chtpwk_vscY

[raven summit]

Maybe Sleeper.

He's one of Venom's newer kids.

[wanton salmon]

ooooh SPIDER PUNK

with healing music

its not a power he has

[raven summit]

He makes chems.

[wanton salmon]

but it would be cool

[raven summit]

Would that mess with the Skin?

[wanton salmon]

skins not in the game, and theres no confirmation its coming

[violet ridge]

They have enough characters to last them years

[wanton salmon]

it was in the beta and there were already people there asking for it to be a character

[violet ridge]

I doubt we’ll see spiders other than Gwen and Miles though

[wanton salmon]

also honestly, we dont know, we know whose been anounced but otherwise anyone datamined or with names in the files could be covering someone else or just a lie

[violet ridge]

I mean conceptually

[wanton salmon]

but also we are just shootin the shit here rather than demanding shit

[raven summit]

This is Sleeper.

[wanton salmon]

and being able to have a full spider team would be fun

ooo

you know what, 2099 could also be a healer with his energy webs and stuff

[raven summit]

I think we can do dps supports so it could work. Just no support tanks.

I kinda see a lot of the spider people as dps.

I could see Miles as support actually.

[wanton salmon]

i dunno, he keeps getting new dps powers

like he just got an energy sword which should 100% be his ult

[raven summit]

Fair.

[wanton salmon]

making a blade out of his venom sting

[sand kelp]

depending on which 2099 they crib from he could also be a duelist or a vanguard tbh. spider-verse miguel is fuckin Wide

[violet ridge]

Invisibility im exchange for less mobility feels like miles

[raven summit]

Yeah!

Maybe Gwenom as a tank.

[sand kelp]

to balance out less swinging he should be able to parkour

[vast geyser]

If they made Spiderpunk the Lucio analogy in this game I would play him and literally nothing but him

[wanton salmon]

if he wasnt a skin, antivenom would be a perfect stratagest healer

[raven summit]

God you're right!

Flash could be Anti-Venom.

[violet ridge]

I honestly would be prefer not getting alts as full characters

[wanton salmon]

but they could also make their own origional spider characters strategist tbh

[violet ridge]

make symbioted versions just skins

[runic apex]

i think making dagger and sue so simlar was a mistake

[wanton salmon]

design wise 100%

which is weird as sue has so many visually different comic designs

[runic apex]

one thing people have said is they should have went with the first movie designs

[wanton salmon]

like just using the clasic haircut and more blue in the suit, maybe making her defailt m1 a bit more cisually different

[runic apex]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A1deeg7Nx+L.jpg

[violet ridge]

sue and dagger look very similar at a glance yeah

[wanton salmon]

or the 60s look

[vast geyser]

https://fixupx.com/rad_dude124/status/1878118312992776358

[raven summit]

Yeah.

Maybe have the white half of the outfit be blue.

[wanton salmon]

ooo for the strategest spider character, they could also borrow from one of the medieval marvel spider characters

and make a spider-wizard-knight

with healing magic

[raven summit]

What would Noir be?

[lilac snow]

I'm trying to remember the one on the left

[wanton salmon]

or a version of superior spiderman where he is actually doctor otto octavius and call him SPIDER-DOCTOR!

[silent wren]

Marvel 1602 skins would be awesome

[raven summit]

Madelyn Prior.

[wanton salmon]

both would need to be way more visually different to be seperate characters but would i think be cool points of inspiration for rivals to make their own spider strategist

[soft pollen]

Always loved this suit design.

[raven summit]

Otto also has a Superior Octopus version.

[wanton salmon]

honestly she might end up being just a skin for jean but i hope she gets to be a character in her own right 😭

give her deamon summoning powers

also god

[lilac snow]

I joked that the spiderverse is so wide you could very well start making spidey skins for other characters

[wanton salmon]

like, the main maddie skin 100% needs to be the hyper sexualised skin

like

fits perfectly with the sexualised stuff as the games summoner character

but her SECOND release skin

should 100% be her first appearance version where she looks like this

would rule so hard

as just, that combo

[green junco]

Or her appearance from 97

Which is like revealing but not as bad

[wanton salmon]

eh very similar to the first one

[wanton salmon]

i just like her in normal clothes

[lilac snow]

Also thinking about the talk of male sexualization, I wonder if anyone's drawn bara Kingpin

[wanton salmon]

more characters ALSO need streetwear skins

that are all just normal clothes anyone would wear

as extra skins

[glass pollen]

how many fucking mutants are related to magic stuff?

[wanton salmon]

i would probably pay for those

[glass pollen]

I feel like half of the important/main ones can do magic too

[raven summit]

There's a bit.

[lilac snow]

Does it count if there's a spidey skin that's jeans + hoodie but he's still in a mask?

[wanton salmon]

a lot because a lot of mutant powers are varients on giving you other powers, like magic or vampirism or elemental powers or something

[raven summit]

Pixie.

[wanton salmon]

it does! and more should have that

[glass pollen]

technically the bagman

[lilac snow]

Yeah the mask kinda makes it not normal street clothes but it's a classic spidey look

[glass pollen]

even then if they do make one spidey like that

it will probably be miles

[wanton salmon]

but like give me a cloak and dagger based on their show "costumes"

[lilac snow]

Also not quite streetwear but GI Cap

[glass pollen]

I think they will do streetwear

they just need to solidify the first designs

[wanton salmon]

yea this game is gonna fukin run and run

[glass pollen]

I will be surprised if I dont see chars with drippy clothes

[green junco]

I'm sure Emma's first skin would be one of her hellfire gala dresses

[maiden radish]

I hope we get less tight fitting clothes too but I can absolutely see some dumb "we don't want to change a characters silhouette l" excuse

This game has goofy enough hurt boxes that hopefully they aren't that competitive brain rotted

[green junco]

That is something that is pretty normal across the hero shooter lineup but I could see rivals doing it more than OW

Since it's not competitive brain rotted

Problem is that comic characters wear a lot of skin tight stuff most of the time

[wanton salmon]

thing is they dont

and rivals isnt limited by that

like compare magneto and invisible woman

magnetos rivals skin is less skintight that most his comic skins

and sue as a lot of less skintight comic skins

also, also, Ghost Rider kit idea, vanguard:
m1: chain whip
m2: shotgun

passive: motorcycle, huge body as the motorcycle his his hitbox, can ride up walls

e: Hellfire Infusion, add bonus damage over time and flaming effects to his mouse effects, bike leaves a flaming trail, first chain whip after infusing pulls an enemy, first shotgun after infusion knock backs an enemy

shift: Hell's Ride, do a wheelie and dash forwards, projecting a flaming damage aoe ahead of you

f: Sin Glare, all enemies in line of sightand a small aoe take damage when they do damage to anyone other than Ghost Rider, ghost rider gets bonus health

q/ult: penance stare, single target grapple for massive damage

[green junco]

I could see them adding casual clothes

Maybe not from the cloak and dagger show

But in general

[wanton salmon]

(had a better idea)

[green junco]

We already got snowboarding Magik which is sick

[wanton salmon]

thats true!

snowboarding magic goes so hard

the chainsawwwwwww

[green junco]

And her darkchylde form is also cool too

[sand kelp]

This makes me wonder what they'll do for Captain Marvel

My ideal version of her is one that I don't really know they'd jump for, which is a halfway point between Ms. Marvel and the new suit. Idk I think the Kree battlesuit with some black and a domino mask would go pretty hard

[wanton salmon]

id hope shed get a costume like a modern comics ones, where its cool and hot but not that sexualized

but its currently unknown if we will even get lady captain marvel, or if we will get older dude captian marvel

and if its the lady captain marvel, it will be a skin tight bodysuit with some armour on parts that dont cover the tits and ass and her helmet on a secondary skin probably

[sand kelp]

Not a huge fan of the leotard with the sash (also psylocke already had that but similar silhouettes clearly isn't stopping anyone)

[sand kelp]

I get that feeling, yeah, but also her ult could give her the helmet like Star-Lord does

[raven summit]

I think going with Ninja Psylocke was the best choice.

[wanton salmon]

the funniest choice would be 80s english betsy braddock psylock

[raven summit]

Mostly because Betty is Captain Britain.

[sand kelp]

I only like the Uncanny version more because of the simpler shapes and colors

I know it's a sexier one or whatever, but honestly it's just less visually noisy to me and I appreciate that, idk

[raven summit]

Yeah.

I just feel like Betty is a good option for a Lady Tank and I'm glad the decided to separate her from Psylocke with this.

I'm pretty sure Kwannon... I don't know how to spell her name, but I'm pretty sure she's Psylocke in the main stuff?

[twilit meadow]

Y'know who we need? She-Hulk

[raven summit]

Yeah.

[twilit meadow]

Just to make those fans cry in anguish

[raven summit]

There have been enough members of the F4 to make a full team of 6.

I want Doc Oct as either support or a tank.

[sand kelp]

jen as a tank but using phoenix wright-esque moves would be hilarious

[raven summit]

I would want Harpy.

[timber garnet]

She-Hulk was the original Deadpool

In the sense of her 4th wall breaks

[raven summit]

Make Harpy like... a melee dps that has to swoop and run.

Give the lesbians their rep.

[twilit meadow]

YES

[timber garnet]

Reed is weird

I do a ton of damage but barely kill people

[mild pine]

I curse thee with moon knight

[sly yew]

wait

Britain like the place?

[mild pine]

yee

[green junco]

yeah

[sly yew]

neat

[green junco]

Its a title

passed between characters

like captain america

[timber garnet]

Captain America but british

[sly yew]

bri'ish

[green junco]

A bit more different, Captain Britain uses power from interdimentional energy around the British isles, which are in every reality, and the costume lets you conduit it when you leave Britain

Gives him flight, superhuman stuff, the ability to see spells and break them, and telepathy resistance

(The last thing mainly from being the brother of Betsy Braddock, aka one of the Psylockes)

[violet ridge]

And gets up to a lot of reality warping nonsense

[green junco]

Black Knight would be a cool character to add too

[violet ridge]

There’s a ton of cool characters to choose from

[violet ridge]

Black knight would a vanguard

I doubt we’ll see more than 2 vanguards a year

Unfortunately

[twilit belfry]

JJK does, so I think One Piece does too

[violet ridge]

So does chainsaw man

[frigid moat]

It used to be that whoever weilded excalibur was captain Britain I'd I remember right but Pyslockes brother promoted himself to Captain Avalon and Psylocke(Betsy) became captain Britain

[green junco]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906754463400853504/1327443604389761096/whenever-moon-knight-is-locked-in-for-my-team-v0-a7fx925tw4ce1.webp?ex=67846731&is=678315b1&hm=d291fc7e39cb937cbb98c2ccc7fbc91721648dfb2378a98ae3530ab6b979182d&=&format=webp&width=640&height=905

[wanton salmon]

as an english person god i hate captain britain, and betsy is on thin fucking ice

i can just about enjoy union jack so long as hes fighting nazis

[mild pine]

Captain Sunderland

[wanton salmon]

i always enjoyed the captain britain corp more than braddock captain britain, captain britain had the first multiverse teamup squaf

like spiderverse but all captain britains

i just hate the aristocracy with a passion bordering on violent

[wanton salmon]

seargent major swindon

Left Tenant Hull

[mild pine]

Honestly it would be hilarious if Captain Britain never showed up but this little "multiverse tangle" gets handed off to some side-alley Seargent at Arms Dartmouth or something.

[wanton salmon]

eiither way just give me uk heroes who arent fucking toffs

[velvet sinew]

Is that how Namor used to look

[mild pine]

"I know how to solve this"
"Corporal Manchester we CANNOT headbutt Doom. Again."

https://tenor.com/view/bored-in-the-house-bored-boredom-sober-the-young-ones-gif-19224811

Vyvyan was a terrible beast I miss him greatly

[wanton salmon]

lmao

[wanton salmon]

yeah up until bp 2 basically

like how blade uses to be from london

until his movies lmao

[violet ridge]

What’s wrong with them?

[mild pine]

Multiple reality cop

[violet ridge]

Blade first appearance

The film very much changed how he was depicted

[timber garnet]

Kinda like how the MCU changes how the Avengers (and others) were depicted

[wanton salmon]

aristocrats. like actual nobles distant royalty

i was soured on the concept even before the royalty started openly protectinc their pedophiles

also lole every member of that family is a massive piece of shit jerkwad to people around em

megan....deserved better, even if she and brian love each other

but yeha brian inherited into superpowers as part of his aristocratic inheritanc and proceeded to be a self absorbed arse for decades of storylines with nicer and more interesting people

hes got some good stories mind

[green junco]

Simply just remove their clothes and put them on a flight outside of the British isles

[dense wolf]

So, turns out Reed's reflect easily counters Punisher's turret. Neato

[green junco]

Assuming he doesn't just keep shooting you after the reflect goes away

But yeah

I like catching iron man ults with it

[mild pine]

It's honestly a really strong reflect

I wonder how they're going to slot into the meta

It's interesting because I've seen more people pick wolverine recently because of him

[glass pollen]

out of boredom try another dps so i dont end up a sg one trick

[mild pine]

because with two tanks and reed around Wolverine is suddenly good for chewing through some health pools

[glass pollen]

try out scarlet witch

she has a right click

[mild pine]

oh buddy she sure does

[glass pollen]

I literally dont think I saw any scarlet witch actually using it

they all just use the aimbot

[mild pine]

Sometimes, if they're actually a decent one

problem is her escape and aimbot is still kinda powerful, so it's like... oh they simply do not engage with me if I show a little progress

[glass pollen]

I can tell

literally second match using her

[mild pine]

yeah I had a doom match and four of the top six were scarlet witch

which is hilarious because it just means people are going to get her nerfed again

"wow 60% of the wins are one character"

🔨

[glass pollen]

I dont think the doom matches are going to be relevant

its a free for all, which is a mode that is entirely different to the regular rivals experience

[mild pine]

Everything is relevant as a data point

[runic apex]

i got 2 wins as SG

[glass pollen]

No one goes as fucking healer here

unless you are someone called cloak and dagger

[violet ridge]

I mean obviously

[glass pollen]

I saw a loki once tho

[mild pine]

Saw a loki myself yeah

[violet ridge]

No one to support

[mild pine]

Oh I saw an adam too

since he can self heal really hard

[glass pollen]

Invisible girl has been there

I guess mostly because she can be a bit of Sombra

[runic apex]

i hate fighting reed in that mode

i ran into one that would say L everytime they beat someone

[dense wolf]

It's so satisfying popping Reed's ult

[twilit meadow]

Unfortunately it doesn't feel super impactful, at least to me

I haven't even played him but I stole his ult a couple times as Loki

[hexed niche]

This isn’t indicative of a wider problem at all but this was a very funny game

[hexed niche]

It is admittedly a lot better in the context of his kit because similar to moon knight he hits a lot of people at once

So he builds ult pretty quickly

[twilit meadow]

Ahh

I do really love copying ults though. Very satisfying

[twilit belfry]

My aim is bad

Also, I just realized how short Magneto's primary is

[runic apex]

it also explodes in an aoe

[violet ridge]

It felt long ranger to me

[twilit belfry]

It feels like it should go until it hits something, but it only lasts 25 meters

[twilit belfry]

The reason why he's my main Vanguard

[runic apex]

theres advantages to explodinjg in mid air

with correct spacing it means its basicly like a flak gun against air

[violet ridge]

does his right function the same way?

[sour forge]

no

[runic apex]

its kinda bad honestly

its just a slightly more damage longer range projectile with knockback

[sour forge]

isn't it an outright stun

at least max level

[runic apex]

i think its only knockback

i could be wrong

huh i thought it did less damage than that

[sour forge]

wack

I guess it's just movement lock then

[twilit belfry]

Weird

I remember it also stuns, mandela effect ig

[violet ridge]

huh, I thought it was pretty good when I was using it, seemed to do a lot of damage

[sour forge]

i mean it's free

you lose basically nothing just chucking that shit off cd

[runic apex]

90 is ok damage

[sour forge]

you can probably combo into it at max charge to kill a squishy

[twilit meadow]

I don't think it HAS CD

It's just the rings

[twilit belfry]

Yeah

One time I panic pressed magneto ult and shot out the meteor

And now I feel like

[vast geyser]

Max charge is a mini stun, yeah

If someone has an interruptable move then using this on them will interrupt it

It does also technically have no cooldown but his like, Zarya like mechanic of gaining charge from damage absorbed is so little that it's not like you're going to be doing them back to back, nor is it scary even if you do such a thing

[twilit belfry]

La get off me tool

This was expected right?

https://x.com/MRivalsUpdates/status/1877872279457046682?s=19

Marvel Rivals News (@MRivalsUpdates) on X

CYCLOPS AKA SCOTT SUMMERS IS COMING TO MARVEL RIVALS!!!!!!! 🔥

[VIA: @X0X_LEAK]

Twitter · Jan 11, 2025, 12:16 AM

[lilac snow]

Yeah a pretty expected pick

[vast geyser]

https://fixupx.com/The25thNigga/status/1878150626300899641

[errant folio]

Please tell me he's going to be a strategist.

[lapis aspen]

I'd describe him as the X-Man so he was probably coming

[twilit meadow]

Got MVP as Magik!

[twilit belfry]

Magical

[twilit meadow]

I'm getting the hang of brawling with her

Assassination? Not so much

And a VERY good win/loss ratio so far. For the season it's 33/23, all-time it's 143/75

[twilit belfry]

Idier:

Role queue, but just for strategists, so the team can guarantee a 2 strategists team

[twilit meadow]

Counterpoint: role queue for duelists so we never get more than 3

[twilit belfry]

I can settle for a 4 duelist team

As long as they kill a lot

[sour forge]

reed counts as half a tank

[lapis aspen]

Don't let DPS hardlockers get away with this. We can't normalise "it's fine we've got reed"

[mild pine]

I had an idea for Cyclops of having stance switching between a long range sniping mode and a close up brawling/wide sweeps of beam moves. Honestly he's just got so much options

[twilit belfry]

A 1 to 1 recreation of his MVC2 moveset

[sour forge]

gene splice

[mild pine]

I still deeply desire to place Glob Herman in this game.

Beaming these thoughts directly into the brains of the creators

X-men Vanguard Glob Herman. I don't know what he'd do or why he's there but Glob Herman.

Let my boy become a hero.

Look at him! Tell me you'd go to war without him.

[sly yew]

I feel real sorry for Glob

Sometimes being a mutant sucks ass

[fervent pulsar]

Sometimes?

It always sucks being a mutant, it's just very variable how much

[sly yew]

True

[twilit belfry]

Reed's ult controls weird

[teal mist]

Sometimes in QP if four dps lock in I just 'well, one of those days' and go Full DPS Team

Practice some thing I don't get to often

Sometimes we win and that's always funni

Also Reed could maybe use less health in big mode, or make Elasticity harder to charge

[hexed hearth]

... what

he shoots lasers from his eyes, not gauze

[wanton salmon]

hes the team leader and team strategist

i think he could be a great dps strategist combo

his ult has to be a strategist ult anyway, TO ME MY X MEN

like cap has avengers assmeble

[hexed hearth]

isn't cap's ult purely offense?

[wanton salmon]

nope its a team buff and heal

besides look at invisible woman, shes the team wall and melee monster and she got made a stratagist with healing shields

and hulk can give a shield with nuclear energy, magneto with magentism and mr fantastic with a chest bump

[wanton salmon]

scott should totally have a like, commander/leader ability where he can gice somrone a slap on the back and kind word while he zaps em with controlled kinetic energy to shield or heal

[sand oracle]

i quite like reed

I think he really suffers from the three roles existing as a concept, because he is, flexible (haha)

[wanton salmon]

im just mad that he gets more shields than sue and while being flexible doesnt get to have any tech/science abilities

[twilit belfry]

Rivals should have a gamemode where everyone can choose the same hero

A team based game mode I mean

[silent wren]

Six Peni Parkers vs six Namors would be hilarious to watch

Or six (eighteen?) Lokis

[twilit belfry]

Engineer Gaming

[twilit belfry]

"YOUR POWERS ARE MINE." * 12

[teal mist]

For the life of me I don't know why they buffed Winter Soldier

He was fine and now feels fuckin ridiculous

to play or fight

[violet ridge]

How’d he get leaked?

[runic apex]

some of the leaks are pretty barebones ive heard

some might even be wrong cause the charcter might be used in some other way

[teal mist]

SG's ult is a terror now, golly

Even if it doesn't kill them it makes them have to pay attention to it or it'll eat a backliner

[violet ridge]

Cyclops feels a likely candidate for a story character on whatever map jean and Emma come with

[glass pollen]

I just realized why I liked doom match

there is no teabagging

[lapis aspen]

I think when Mantis heals massive bright red text should come on the screen saying "YOU'RE BEING HEALED BY MANTIS. SHE SPENT 1 OUT OF 4 LIFE ORB TO DO THIS"

Just so I don't have to deal with people complaining about me not healing them when I am

[green junco]

Usually they get leaks from like a beta tester or insider

The account I follow manages to get gameplay footage of the newer skins, from being untextured to MVP animations

[lilac snow]

A lot of it is datamining, sometimes you find prelim files of a character, sometimes you have like half of a call-and-response voiceline

So like eg. if Wolverine has a Cyclops line, maybe he's a planned playable character, maybe he just appears in an event

[vast geyser]

My shit posting answer for Cyclops is he should be the only character you play in first person

[green junco]

I've heard as well:

Colossus Vanguard
Professor X Strategist
Trapper Duelist
Locus Strategist

[vast geyser]

And then his ult should be taking off the visor and engaging friendly fire mode

[green junco]

He just explodes

[lilac snow]

And with a red filter over everything?

[vast geyser]

Yes

[vast geyser]

https://fixupx.com/magikbones/status/1877932152857195007

[green junco]

Scott's teamup is just making out with Jean grey in the middle of the battle and stunning everyone

[vast geyser]

It also insta kills Wolverine

[lilac snow]

Trapper or Trapster?

[lilac snow]

No they're in a throuple now

[green junco]

Trapster

[vast geyser]

Zamn

[green junco]

Autocorrect

Paste Pot Pete

[lilac snow]

Paste-Pot Pete is such a deep cut but y'know what I'm here for it

[violet ridge]

I actually don’t know who locus is

[green junco]

Locus is from X Force

She can shoot energy blasts and teleport people, but to only places she's been to before

[lilac snow]

I assume Rayana Piper, who I also had to look up... and yeah that's her

[green junco]

Specifically she can focus on parts of people to teleport so like decapitating people with portals

[lilac snow]

Part of the Mutant Liberation Front, appeared 1993-2002

[violet ridge]

Dang, rare for me to not recognize a character

[green junco]

She's a semi deep cut but not as deep as mfing trapster

[violet ridge]

I like how we're seeing deepcuts

[fervent pumice]

Still doubtful all of those leaked characters will be playable

[timber garnet]

It could be a Placeholder meant to confuse leakers

And dataminers

[green junco]

We shall see

[wanton salmon]

wtf why locus as a strategist, her powers are flight, teleporation and energy blasts
OH aron verne the thor guy, he has geometric energy construct powers that could work great for a strategist

[green junco]

The leaks specially mentioned X Force version of Locus

[wanton salmon]

god it better not be as a strategist

[green junco]

So probably not Aaron Verne

But we'll see

Again could just be wrong

[wanton salmon]

like its invisible woman all over agian if it is

[green junco]

Ah it came from the MarvelHerosTable game file but it could just be a gag

[timber garnet]

They should add Cable

[lapis aspen]

I like how Cables speach bubble makes it look like he's saying he should be added

I know Cable has some time travel stuff, how active is that

like could tracer around the place or is it more, he goes to a place that's it. like its there for interesting settings rather than being something he does

[wanton salmon]

they can mess with it as they like with their au stuff tbh

limitations are more "thematic" and about player tolerance than anything else

hes another one with a loaaaad of powers you dont see in his like crossovers and cartoon/movie appearances a lot too

depending on how they do it he could fill like, any role at all

[lilac snow]

Reading up on her, I feel like I could only see Locus as strategist if they branched out the strategist role way more and "enabling the team by TPing enemies around" was just as valid a way of being "the support" as having heals and damage boosts and rezzes

Heh. Imagined an Ult that just AOE teleports a bunch of enemies back to spawn. Not dead, they don't gotta wait for the timer, they just gotta walk back

A real "fuck you, it's our point now" option

[wanton salmon]

honestly i think id love to see cable as a support too, set up a support for the like shooter players

honestly we could use a buff gun shootman in both stratagest and vanguard for those players

[teal mist]

I'd adore if it leaned away from Guns Shootman tbh

Part of what makes rivals more enjoyable than OW is the amount of unique kits

[lilac snow]

Tons o' guns War Machine as vanguard would be fun to see I think

An interesting thematic foil to the cool energy blasts Iron Man

[wanton salmon]

thats like also part of why i think it would be good to have those characters, which do exist in marvel, are popular, are wanted and sell well, be in slots other than dps

so they have those abilities, the base is something people want and can engage with

but the abilities that make them good like, in the game involve getting beyond the shoot and move playstyle

like cable has telekenisis, telepathy, super gadget/engineering through using those powers on technology, time travel, energy projection, size changing, healing HIMSELF AND OTHERS with psionic regeneration, force fields, flight and teleportation

but what hes MOST known and loved for in the wider fandom of games and cartoons and movies, is being a gun shootman with a robot arm

so like how reed "tricks" dps players into playings tank, characters like cable or bishop or deadpool can "trick" gun-shootman players into engaging with the game in different ways

hell its part of why i get so mad about storm being a buffer and invisible woman being a healer lmao, theres so much room and space for cool expression while appealing to different audiences

[lapis aspen]

Invisible Woman would've been cool as a DPS but with the power of shielding allies

Like just one ability in her kit but mostly focused on like, flanking probably

[wanton salmon]

or even as a support who has a much smaller amount of healthbar increase, but its done with shields that can stack on max health and gets boosted "shielding" based on the targets current amount of lost health

[lapis aspen]

That'd be a cool design space but it wouldnt work in the hands of a fool. Lower healing but in return for shielding would make people just go "she's a bad healer in the support role so if you pick her I'll report"

[wanton salmon]

maybe, i dunno

[wanton salmon]

war machine vanguard would rule

how would yall design cable?

[runic apex]

maybe punisher mixed with loki illusions

sorta like that one power in titanfall

[wanton salmon]

why illusions?

[runic apex]

psyonic

[green junco]

Yeah cable has pretty good psyonic powers

[soft pollen]

Maybe give Cable like a lockdown where it shuts down abilities for a short time.

[green junco]

https://tenor.com/view/valorant-kayovalorant-gif-24459273

[violet ridge]

I could see cable being a tank

[severe zephyr]

Threshification of suppose yeah

[sour forge]

excuse me

[mild pine]

Nyoom! Moon Knight Bullshit Go!

[severe zephyr]

Haha

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/2/21/Thresh_Undead_2_Render.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20200725135950

I meant this one though

[green junco]

If you grapple at your feet, you get a lot of height btw

Good for getting a overhead view before tossing an ult and ankh

[mild pine]

true, but it's a long cooldown

Double jump is just six seconds and no one was looking at me so just bloop

nice triple with the ult

[green junco]

true

[mild pine]

Sometimes I don't know if it's just worth it to buy time

like if my allies are fighting the enemy on a point, but two of the enemy have split off to chase me around the map as I scramble like a cornered cockroach, is that good?

Am I helping?

I've diverted more than just the one person away, and I doubt I will take them down, but it's effectively dodge tanking/distracting while my team can try and mop up others

[lapis aspen]

I tell myself that's helpful when I do it so maybe?

[vast geyser]

You should largely try to run to the middle of your team rather than escape away like that, a lot of flank/dive characters are built to chase and it's not guarenteed that anything happens in the rest of the fight in the meantime

[runic apex]

id say it depends who your playing as

if your one of the healers absoutely run back to your team

but if you yourself are playing a flanker then it can be worth it if two are chasing you

[vast geyser]

Like say it's just a shield tank and healers stalling for time during your chase and they manage to just hold out. You die and suddenly it's a 5v6

[mild pine]

the enemy MK and ironman kept chasing me around

[runic apex]

what were you playing?

[mild pine]

mk

[runic apex]

oh yeah then yeah you come out ahead while they are chasing you

[vast geyser]

Those are two ranged dps. You should try to evacuate to your team rather than scramble about since neither really has the means to, say, kill that well through healing or through a tank

[mild pine]

Fair

Sometimes I in deep tho

[teal mist]

Making the enemies waste time is a fundamental part of Cap Offtanking

While three people are trying to catch your athletic ass they're not pushing the point

[twilit meadow]

Really just playing out this scene

[green junco]

Thats americas ass

[lilac snow]

Broke: Speculation on leaked characters' role

Woke: Speculation on leaked characters' teamups

[severe zephyr]

https://fixupx.com/nerdyomniman/status/1878499141552357766

[sour forge]

that strange could not have picked a less correct direction to block

[raven summit]

Would Mysterio play too much like Loki?

I feel like a lot of his tricks would match up, but he could do a lot.

Maybe something like his Spectacular version, having imp bots.

[mild pine]

Honestly with illusions you could do many things

as long as you desire him there will be a way

like dating in your 30s

[raven summit]

I wouldn't make him another deploable character, but it makes the most sense.

[wanton salmon]

illusion but not of himself

illusionary healthpacks, illudionary versions of friendly and enemy characters

illusionary walls and illusionary fall traps

combined with real versions of health packs and walls

yeah id make him a vanguard

also a loada smoke

like punishers grenade but long lasting

[twilit belfry]

Oh my god? Sunzi marvel rivals?

[twilit belfry]

Now that I think about it, he'll be more like Invisible Woman

[hexed niche]

Ngl something I’ve kinda really begun to enjoy short ranged aggressive portals to set up eye of agamotto

[wanton salmon]

what, a healer for no reason with his main ability given to a different character? (just been playing a buncha mr fantastic and am extra salty rn that he has better shields AND self shield than she does)

[twilit belfry]

Someone who has barriers and other obstructions

[wanton salmon]

he should get the oposite of stranges porta

portal

gets a load of fake models of different parts of the map and can play fortnite, but fully 3/4 of them are intangible illusions you can walk through

and then he can play prop hunt too

and put traps inside his fake level objects

[lilac snow]

Illusions of teammates, and when an illusion spots an enemy it M1s at them and starts moving

[sand oracle]

Mr. Fantastic feels really good

being able to hit multiple people with his arms, the pull on his right click

and he is so tanky it's absurd

especially with the teamup

[runic apex]

i think he becomes too tanky with the teamup

[timber garnet]

What would Doctor Doom be?

and how would he play?

[green junco]

Vanguard

Magic shit

[violet ridge]

Also tech stuff

[green junco]

Yeah both

Maybe like a force field, magical projectiles

A dropkick

Summons doombots

https://tenor.com/view/foot-dive-doctor-doom-mvc-mvc3-dr-doom-gif-25817873

[twilit belfry]

Defo a vanguard, probably with more self shields

[twilit belfry]

Putting more bodies in the field, 100% a vanguard thing to do

[teal mist]

Third Doom, thinks the two in the main story are being sloppy and dramatic about this whole thing

[green junco]

Impossible, all dooms are dramatic

[twilit belfry]

Preach!

[twilit belfry]

Unless you're ultimate doom

In which you are a lobotomite

[green junco]

Are you talking about new ultimate?

[timber garnet]

We don't talk about the Old Ultimates

[green junco]

Because he's also dramatic

[teal mist]

I thought Ultimate Doom became kind of a weird robot

[timber garnet]

Closest thing we have to Doom in the Ultimates is the MAker

[green junco]

No there's the reed doom

within new ultimate

[timber garnet]

that's the Maker

[green junco]

Nono I mean that universe's reed

[timber garnet]

ah

[twilit belfry]

6160 Reed Richards

[green junco]

Reed of 6160 got brainwashed/tortured until he became doom

After The Maker ruined his life basically

1616 is like a techno organic guy

6160 doom is also a lot weaker then most other dooms

[twilit belfry]

Of course, after all, Its reed

[hexed niche]

Hey gamers do y’all know how to check if push to talk is working in this game?

I’m very unsure

Nvm

I got it working finally

[raven summit]

https://twitter.com/wongupdates/status/1878497086733234309

Wong Updates (@WongUpdates) on X

🚨NEW HERO’S FOUND IN GAME FILES #MarvelRivals

Thanos - Tank
Wong - Damage
Ant Man - Tank
Eminem - Damage
Beast - Support
Joe Biden - Support

Twitter · Jan 12, 2025, 5:39 PM

[lilac snow]

It's gonna be so Joever

[twilit belfry]

Holy shit, Biden Blast

[hexed niche]

So I’ve been pretty much exclusively playing Reed for a while

And while I love him and he’s become one of my favorite characters

I do have like, 2 complaints for him

The delay between reaching 100 and actually getting the bonus health from big mode, and a weird glitch where occasionally during his E my camera flicks to the right

[violet ridge]

You had me in the first half

[raven summit]

https://girlcockx.com/nerdyomniman/status/1878545762289590409

[twilit belfry]

Ok, but eminem in another game would be awesome though

[unique storm]

Eminem is in the game. This is never explained. No lore, no nothing, he just is. He is canon, he crossedover with the Punisher that one time.

[vast geyser]

https://fixupx.com/zerowontmiss/status/1878578154543223060

[twilit belfry]

How I feel after backcapping with Loki

[twilit belfry]

How does the system even calculate damage blocked

[vast geyser]

Any damage you take or have shielded in some form

[twilit belfry]

Finally fought against a good read

Yeah, this mf too tanky

Probably need to tune up how fast he can build elasticity

[supple heron]

i'm gonna get that thor skin

so help me Odin

[runic apex]

it wont be hard

[supple heron]

i'm thinking you just need to complete the challenges for the event right?

[green junco]

Yeah you just need to complete the challenges

There's a bar on the event tab of the missions menu

[supple heron]

i've already did the two first.

[green junco]

It'll take a while to get there

Especially when some missions haven't unlocked yet

[supple heron]

ye 😔

[twilit belfry]

When Ghost Rider gets it, I want his MVP anim to be the akira slide

[supple heron]

yoooo

that'd be sick actually

ooooh, what if he had moves like cavaliere from dmc 5

https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry-v-donguri-combo-mad-motor-bike-capcom-gif-18362898

https://tenor.com/view/dmc5-dante-motorcycle-gif-12841140

[runic apex]

i got back to back maybe some of the worst teams ive seen, i didn't think being this bad was possible and i got it back to back

1 disonnect in the first match, and 3 leavers in the 2nd

[twilit belfry]

I am on a losing streek rn bruh

[runic apex]

i usally don't get too mad at my teams most of the time but these two were bad bad

[twilit belfry]

I wont say my teammates were bad, I wanna say by enemies are too good

[runic apex]

i usally agree

i also still think reed is overpowerd

[twilit belfry]

I should get better at him so I can abuse this fact

[twilit belfry]

We need to tune down his elasticity buildup

This man is definitely a disgused Vanguard

[lapis aspen]

His big chest mode is all the unfun of a luna/mantis ult but with none of the cool down

[twilit belfry]

It activates too much

[runic apex]

my teams for the third time have been really abd

i think while in big mode he should move slower too

he alspo should not be healable while reflecting

thats another reason he is brokenly tanky

[lapis aspen]

If you keep getting bad teams the ebst advice I've heard is to quit out then queue

[runic apex]

i saw a winter ult SG's ult

[twilit belfry]

Wouldn't that cause a penalty?

[runic apex]

after the mwatch thye mean probally

[lapis aspen]

after the match yea

[runic apex]

i changed to midtown

[sand oracle]

yeah mr fantastic is kinda nuts

I've been spamming him

his ult feels a lot better than I feared

I think the trick is to use it in a low-ceilinged room

[runic apex]

if a reeed decides its your time to die your just dead

when he is in big mode

and you cant run from him

thats why the two nerfs i think he needs is cant heal during reflect and slower movement during big mode

[supple heron]

strangely the one doom match were I dominated as Thor had two mister fantastics.

they must've been new to the characters

[sand oracle]

i mean any hero with a mobility tool totally can

since all of his abilities get locked while he's big

I think his teamup with sue does genuinely push him over the edge though, it's so nuts

[glass pollen]

I saw people.comparing him to gnar

[sand oracle]

I do not know who that is

[glass pollen]

but even gnar has his beast mode as more of a forced install/stance swap

[glass pollen]

champion of league of legends, furry little creature that becomes a monster if he fills a bar

dubious little creature

[twilit belfry]

La snowball mechanic

[glass pollen]

not really its more similar to reed

[severe zephyr]

My eyes have been opened

Also yeah it’s not really a snowball mechanic it’s short term and he switches back and forth between a large disruptive brawler and small flighty skirmisher in a semi-controllable fashion

[runic apex]

they added reed and sue to the website

https://www.marvelrivals.com/heroes/index.html?id=fccfe09c-c34c-40d6-b546-a34386612729

so how his ult works is it starts at 50 damage and goes up 10 each bounce

to a max of 100 per hit

and it gets slower

WAIT he geta a movement speed boost whlie in big mode?

20%

[vast geyser]

I have so far not seen a fantastic be that meaningful in a match

Though people thought Hulk was awful for a while so I will wait until people have keyed in on him more

[timber garnet]

Mr Fantastic is fun, I just wish he had faster attacks

But that may just be me

If only because others keep stealing my kills >:v

[sand oracle]

honestly my big thing with him is using his e on the way to the objective so you start the fight with like, 80 elasticity

[runic apex]

yeah

and the grab gives you anoother 30

[green junco]

He feels good but I also feel he is killable too

If you overextend, it's easy to get merked, even with his larger health pool

[runic apex]

I think the main things that to me make him overly strong is the reflect which you have to chose to either burst down and take some damage, or let him get healed while his cooldowns have time to reset, and his speed while in bigmode lets just him just kill anything not being focused for healing.

[vast geyser]

Every Reed I see gets really big then dies right after from being directly in front of everyone

[timber garnet]

I think he's definitely one of the harder characters to play

But when he's in his element he can be really good

[severe zephyr]

https://x.com/rivalsassembled/status/1878791734509088892?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

Marvel Rivals Intel (@RivalsAssembled) on X

The best heroes in Marvel Rivals Season 1 so far based on Win Rate across all ranks in competitive

via /rivalsmeta

Twitter · Jan 13, 2025, 1:10 PM

Wgat

Storm downplayers were on double shifts now she’s still bad ok

[runic apex]

its only been a few days i don't think comp is a good indicator based on winrate

[severe zephyr]

Yeah it’ll settle some but it does show early trends

Winrates are also kind of iffy in a game with mirror matches allowed

[runic apex]

i think banrate is a better indicator in some ways

[severe zephyr]

Since very strong common picks will trend towards 50% harder than niche picks and pockets

[runic apex]

theres also a case of sometimes theres high win rates with a charcter because their pickrate is bad

but the people that do pick them are usally really good

[timber garnet]

Weird how Jeff is D Tier

[green junco]

Jeff has a good ult but I feel he does lack a little with healing

But he's very doable if you know what you're doing

And the bubble swim tech makes him nigh unkillable

[severe zephyr]

He’s not bad but there’s some Real Healer Monsters in the category so I can see him being outshined

[sand oracle]

I don't think I understand what puts some heroes in A and some in B

[severe zephyr]

I’m guessing it’s indexing based on pick rate, ban rate, and win rate

That’s how all the LoL tier aggregators do it anyway

[green junco]

I do feel like all of the characters are viable if you know what you're doing, though some are much easier to do well on

[severe zephyr]

Yeah these are pretty tightly packed win rates

Usually* gigabroken stuff gets to 60%+ WR and gigabad stuff can get below 40%

* this depends on the game some

[green junco]

There isn't quite like a throw pick like in OW2, though part of that is the flexibility of a team comp

[severe zephyr]

But like 80% of the cast is clustered in like 53-48 which is good

[runic apex]

i still think people are underrating sg

[green junco]

I mean she's good

I don't think anyone is calling any character is bad rn, storm is pretty good now which I'm happy

Storm is one of my favorite X-Men

And especially that they have us the white outfit for free

[runic apex]

id say widow

[severe zephyr]

I think Black Widow is kinda bad but maybe it’s a skill issue

[green junco]

I do think it's a skill issue too

Ive seen good widows clean house

It's just about taking the right shots and being slippery

Easier to fuck up though

[severe zephyr]

I think Netease wisely did not give her a hitscan OHK and didn’t give her quite enough to make up for that personally

[vast geyser]

Winrate not separated by a skill bracket is not a great indicator

[severe zephyr]

It depends on what you’re trying to get out of the data

EG if you’re coaching a comp team it’s useless but if you’re trying to gauge things some it’s ok

Since mid-skill brackets always dominate those stats really hard

[green junco]

Everyone also just got decayed as well

To the dismay of my ranked games

[runic apex]

yeah 7 ranks was a lot

also no temp ban on new heros

[green junco]

I've just been dealing with some bots recently, but they get banned right away when reported which is nice

[vast geyser]

TeamCaptain, the Wolverine one trick seems to be spamming Richards right now

So maybe he's cooking

[hexed niche]

Ooo

How much success has he had?

[vast geyser]

Currently hard stuck GM 2 it seems

[hexed niche]

Damn

[hexed niche]

Genuine question is rocket just cracked and I never knew?

Or are rocket players just cracked and barely anyone plays him?

[severe zephyr]

He also got a big buff this patch AIUI

[hexed niche]

Oh he did?

[severe zephyr]

But I think he’s quietly been real good

[hexed niche]

I missed that

What are the buffs?

[soft pollen]

His base healing increased by ten.

[hexed niche]

Oh nice

[soft pollen]

So I think it 70per/s iirc.

[hexed niche]

That’s really good

[severe zephyr]

Yeah I remember Blizzard toggling between similar values and it just taking mercy out or re-adding her to the meta haha

[raven summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/unob3RjX3gQ?si=PNql808BmyP1SFfd

[glass pollen]

the only real advantage he has over every other healer besides jeff is his mobility arguably

and also his damage

but rocket is basically the most healbot of all of the healers

luna and mantis stun

adam is a sniper as a second job

dagger swaps to cloak to fuck over whoever is the closest to them and even kill sometimes

susan protects and displaces more

jeff eats you

[raven summit]

You know what makes Rivals so much fun?

You can imagine what characters get in and theorize about them with your friends.

Like... even talking about the game is fun.

[green junco]

The rez is good too

[green junco]

Me when I eat everyone as Jeff to shoot them into a witch ult

Perfection

[glass pollen]

yeah but it is in a 45 second cooldown in rocket

is still strong, just not that impactful

same thing with the ult

and arguably luna does it better while also healing you and its not stationary

[violet ridge]

Wait rocket is tactician

[violet ridge]

It really is

Who are your obscure picks?

[twilit meadow]

Magik for me probably, unless I'm underestimating how obscure Loki is

[violet ridge]

I mean as characters to be added

Mine are Elsa bloodstone, manthing and omega red. I also want to see daredevil and juggernaut but they’re less obscure

[sand kelp]

I'm still holding out hope that we get an Iron Man villain or two. War Machine as a vanguard is more or less a shoe-in, but Crimson Dynamo, or Ghost, or Whiplash? Those would be more dark horse

More villains in general would be the play

[soft pollen]

Sabretooth would be cool.

[violet ridge]

There’s so many leaks I’ve no idea who might be added

[soft pollen]

Colossus too.

[violet ridge]

I just hope we get at least 2 vanguards a year

[raven summit]

Obscure...

Hmm...

Rascal.

[vast geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/howard-the-duck-dolbys-cube-cherry-bomb-lea-thompson-thomas-dolby-gif-23150134