#Mahvel Rivals baby

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fervent pulsar
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hit level 20 finally

runic apex
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anyone want to do the team up stuffi n ai?

fervent pulsar
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think imma play Dr.Strange as my tank main

teal mist
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Lordt, just had maybe one of the roughest games. I don't know how to contend with a Hela and Hawkeye that are good enough for close range headshots

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Mantis and Strange and Loki Clone Barrage too, just an unrelenting damage wall

runic apex
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yeha i think hela and hawkeyes main damage might need toning down

teal mist
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Honestly feels like Hawkeye might be fine even without his bonus chargeup mechanic

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I did not expect him to fire this damn fast

runic apex
teal mist
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damn nice

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also what do you mean 0% accuracy, Iron Fist

runic apex
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yeah i think hela is a bit strong

teal mist
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And her kit is just jampacked with handy stuff

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Widow sacrifices a lot to.. do slightly more headshot damage at 1/3rd the speed

runic apex
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i think its mainly her primiary

teal mist
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Oh I just meant like in terms of the other sniper damage folks

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They seem to have downsides she's sorta missing

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Sacrificing nothing while also having the wild dps

runic apex
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eh id honestly be fine with just writing off widow

teal mist
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Like even just her ability to hover is leagues beyond other hovering folks because getting a sightline is so strong for her

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One of my friends insists Groot counters her somehow but no healer has solved the 'fly into the sky and twoshot them' strat

twilit meadow
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The main thing Widow lacks is that she can't one-shot from full

teal mist
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The cap on her sprint/jump feels a little arbitrary

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But I guess they don't want her boucing forever

runic apex
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i want them to buff hawkeyes block

fervent pulsar
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I'm so annoyed that it resets which kind of match you want to queue in if you leave a match

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i swear they fucking turn off the maps you need for event stuff

runic apex
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are you doing ai stuff or quickplay?

fervent pulsar
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ai

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no reason to quickplay

runic apex
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can i join in for the teamup stuff?

fervent pulsar
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sure

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i'm just leaving and joining matches until i find the right one

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but i can help you with it

runic apex
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im ingame now

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do you also need to 5 teamup kills?

fervent pulsar
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no

runic apex
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i went 14-15 times dry for wakanda

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my loading tim sare aweful on this map

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imja move this game to ssd after we are done

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i cant get any kills do to no healer adn someone else took iron man

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i got 2

winged viper
runic apex
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we just doing ai matches for teamup chllange

winged viper
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ah

runic apex
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ok i got it you can play whateverno w

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thanks the the help ima go move this game to ssd cause the load times are horrid

fervent pulsar
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np

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gonna continue trying to get a hydra map

runic apex
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i got hydrid i think 6-8 times before getting wakanda

twilit meadow
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I'm also about to hop on if anyone wants to go a few rounds

fervent pulsar
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i just need one fucking match on hydra charteris base

fervent pulsar
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still no hydra base

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are you fucking kidding me

fervent pulsar
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still no fucking hydra base

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jfc

hexed hearth
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I like how in most maps the little cutscenes set up both teams as having different goals

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but in hydra base everyone just wants to destroy it

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no Nazis allowed

surreal cipher
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I for one look forward to the definitely not angry, definitely not at all divisive discussions if they add Red Skull.

runic apex
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they should add red death instead

fervent pulsar
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can i fucking get the hydra map

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actually fucking dogshit

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literally like 20 matches and no map

timber garnet
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Any reason you want the map?

runic apex
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theres a mission to get 20 kills and 2 wins on the map

timber garnet
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Ah

runic apex
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the team up chllanges are pretty hard to do without a friend

teal mist
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I hope they retool them a bit for next season or whatever

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Specific Team ups Specific Maps In Abundance is annoying

fervent pulsar
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i STILL haven't gotten it

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it's fucking absurd

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i'm actually getting pissed off

runic apex
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i havent been foucsing the level based ones too much since i have plenty of time

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i just mainly try to get the team up ones done with

fervent pulsar
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i've done literally everything else

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fucking finally

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that took way too long

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hit lvl 24

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wondering how high the levels go

fervent pulsar
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went 28/0/4 on Strange

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kinda fire

fallow stump
hexed niche
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I really hope when they add Reed he has some interactions beefing with Dr Strange about how magic isn’t real

fervent pulsar
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Would be an average Reed Richards L

hexed niche
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He fundamentally refuses to accept there is something beyond understanding and study

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And he’s kinda right

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Magic in marvel is understandable on some level, even if it’s a level that can’t be perceived

fervent pulsar
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He literally knows the Sorceror Supreme

hexed niche
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Yah, and he still think he’s just working on a system he doesn’t understand yet

fervent pulsar
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Willful ignorance

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Also obv magic works on some kind of system but it's also fundamentally different from science

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And not as rigid

teal mist
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Reed personally knows two of the best wizards in the world

fervent pulsar
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yeah

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i would find it funny that he denies magic being a thing but i kinda just find it annoying

teal mist
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He's keeping it up specifically to bother Doom

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A little victory

hexed niche
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I also just like Reed though

fervent pulsar
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fair

teal mist
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I wonder how much design space he and Ms. Marvel compete for :Tc

fallow stump
teal mist
# lilac snow Only two?

at least two i admit my knowledge of wizards is lacking, he's just got beef with some big names

teal mist
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The One Above All, that nerd

fervent pulsar
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also made it to captain proficiency

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yippeeee

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on Iron Fist

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i should say

runic apex
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question do dailie stack up?

fervent pulsar
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no idea

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i've done all of my dailies every single day

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never had more than three at a time since the game launched

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in the main menu it says like

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7/7 and 9/9 or whatever for dailies and challenges and shit

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so i presume you can only have so many active at a time?

fallow stump
fallow stump
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A calculus book is just a spellbook

fervent pulsar
fallow stump
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I mean if you science it enough I'm sure someone can come up with some ridiculously funny laws to explain it.

fervent pulsar
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Doctor Strange channeling the power of the Vishanti or the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak is not something you're going to be able to science an answer about and replicate

fallow stump
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That's what science is all about tho. No matter how weird and magical it is. Doesn't mean it's not magic. It's just magic explained.

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Or an approximate understanding and method of dealing with magic.

fervent pulsar
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sure but it's still working on fundamentally different principles

fallow stump
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Yeah but like different branches of physics are also vastly different principles.

fervent pulsar
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yeah but there's a difference between figuring out how fusion works and replicating it and someone channeling the divine power to reshape creation and create stuff out of nothing

fallow stump
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I just find the idea that like crazy magic gets explained by some science nerds incredibly funny.

fervent pulsar
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a lot of magic shit is about belief moreso than any kind of logic

fallow stump
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Well science is about explaining physical phenomena. If the mind affected irl physics it'd still be physics just with the mind taken into account.i mean quantum physics is some weird magic basically.

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Just cus it's beyond our comprehension now and so different from irl doesn't mean that it is inexplicable if you try hard enough.

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I can only imagine the future of irl physics. Put a physicists from centuries ago in current day physics and they'll think it's magic. I can only imagine the horrors beyond my comprehension if I were transported to 2500 or something.

fervent pulsar
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still don't agree

teal mist
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The real world doesn't have enough Giant Faces making weird judgements about reality

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The Sapience of it makes a difference

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Physics can't get upset with ya

fervent pulsar
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true

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magic is also sorta judgemental unlike science

fallow stump
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Science that's more magical would just be funny to me.

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Partially to see scientists cope and seethe and partially cus magic funny

severe zephyr
fallow stump
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Yeah but like imagine explaining quantum physics to a 1700ths scientists. Even the founders of quantum hated it.

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How I feel hunting down jeffs

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They're just so cute

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I had a good Jeff teammate whcih I haven't had since my friend stopped playing Jeff.

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Was so good

runic apex
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i had two noteable really bad comp matches

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one was a jeff that only healed the hulk

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and another where like 3 teammates had never played the charcter they were playing

fallow stump
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My friend took 2 matches to learn loki and in that second match our team was toxic to him :(

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But since then he often gets mvp

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One match I was mvp nearly the entire match then last 30 seconds he takes mvp from me lmao

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Tho I feel as magik I sometimes don't seem to do as well on the scoreboard cus me contributing to the push doesn't always result in kills or staying alive but I do often make a huge difference in critical moments.

runic apex
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i usally don't judge, but i hope if your in comp you at least have played the charcter to have decent understanding

fallow stump
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Oh I don't play comp

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So people being toxic to our own team is even smellier

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One time my friend was trying to tell some guy to not rush forward as much and then they resp9nded by saying something about my deaths and I was like "damn they're right actually" but I turned it around and did better than em by the end of the match lol

fervent pulsar
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I haven't played comp yet

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Prolly will at some point

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I really want to get to Gold

hexed niche
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I’m planning to for that moon knight skin

runic apex
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im at bronze 1 rn

fervent pulsar
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I want the title personally

fallow stump
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I think comp will make me take the game more seriously and I won't have as much fun

teal mist
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Yeah it's already enough being stuck with a team of abhorrent dinguses I don't want anything important to be left up to them

runic apex
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sadly my friend i enjoy playing hero shooters with usally plays stalker 2 for now

teal mist
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I'm having the opposite problem, this is the only thing my usual coop frien wants to do and I have fun but it's like a physically exhausting game over time lmao

dense remnant
fallow stump
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The unique value in this game is woman with the big sord :3

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I love big sord

teal mist
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Very correct

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Do feel like the third person of it did a lot to draw in non-fps-type folks

mild pine
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Okay okay b ut

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demon woman
with big sord

dense remnant
twilit meadow
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Just went 20/0 with Loki

runic apex
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my best is 35/0 with hela

frigid moat
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Had a match where I was popping off so hard I used my ult six times

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Then proceeded to not get MVP because a punisher who never even popped his got it

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And on his footage was a weak triple that I set up

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Feels bad man

main parcel
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Loki decided to just chill out for this one.

twilit meadow
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Love getting a massive streak with Bucky's ult

frigid moat
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I hope when The Thing gets added hes just a straight up grappler.

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Theres not a vanguard that's can yeet people yet

mild pine
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Hulk does have the grab when full ulting but I would like to yote people

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I suggest we add Negasonic Teenage Warhead to this cast

teal mist
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Marvel-Rogue doing backyard wrestling moves on people /nod nod

mild pine
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Oh oh send your most out there suggestions for a character

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I desire
Glob Herman as a vanguard

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this guy.
CW: internals, still internal, just visible

lilac snow
lapis aspen
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Gwenpool but her ult is taking out an actual player

lilac snow
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Let her see where players' cameras are and target them with effects. Let her teleport around the map while nobody is looking at her. Let her fuck with how objectives work

silent wren
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A psychic character like Emma frost or professor x with an ult that turns on friendly fire for the other team

wanton salmon
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gwenpool moveset:
class-duelist
leftclick: pull out a randomised gun from a small pool, can only pull a new one when its out of ammo, pool includes assault rifles, shotguns, rocket launchers, cant choose which
rightclick: sweep the leg, short range aoe cone ministun with short cooldown

left shift: off panel, give you a count of how many people looking at you, when its zero you become invisible and invaulnrable till you press another button or release left shift and get a massive speed boost, put your view gets restricted to a small panel infront of you and everything else is blinding white, the longer you use it the smaller the panel gets until you are blind

e: onomatapower, all your attacks get large comic book sound effects and boosted dammage, with the sound effects staying in the envieoment with a hitbox. shooting them yourself does aoe damage by making theme explode

f: text block, cover yourself in expanding text boxes that give bonus armour and physically expand her model, sweeping the legg while you have textboxes out textboxes on enemies, expanding their hitbox without giving armour and revealing them through walls

q: wait this is a videogame, puts a console command onscreen and activates debug mode, gainig walking flight, increased speed, an aimbot and the ability to move through walls

next nebula
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Team up with Jeff: pet him and call him a good boy. No other effects other than happiness

wanton salmon
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team up with batroc the leaper, improved leg sweep

team up with deadpool, melee attack becomes a healthbar sword that deals bonus damage the lower her health is

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team up with modok, modok gets bonus damage because of how annoyed he is

wanton salmon
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actually maybe she should be a vanguard, lean into team play

just making an absolute wall of textboxes people can hide behind

opening up a comic panel like a mini short term dr strange portal, but she telaports to where it opens and others can follow her through

shes a dive tank

mild pine
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Putting Jeff in the shark wiggler

fervent pulsar
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feels good

velvet sinew
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Give me silver surfer

fervent pulsar
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also the special KO prompts you get from leveling up proficiency are so fucking cool

runic apex
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i have winter to knights thats ti

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i saw someone already havbe moonknight to lord

fervent pulsar
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fair enough

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i haven't exactly grinded super hard

runic apex
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im not sure the game was out for a week yet when i saw it

fervent pulsar
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huh

sand oracle
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being able to shift betwen cloak and dagger with the scroll wheel is so huge

twilit meadow
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I'm so close to this Strange skin

runic apex
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i started out liking winter alot but shifted to squrril girl a bit just cause anti-tank

fervent pulsar
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i am nowhere near the skin sadly

fallow stump
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I got magiks ko thing the second one not the last one yet.

fervent pulsar
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got Knight proficiency on Jeff :)

fervent pulsar
maiden radish
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Pov Ironfist just blocked your sleep bomb

runic apex
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that block is goofy

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idk why they thought making a block that makes you invicable for about a sceond and gives you bonus hp based on 1.5 times the damage you take

frigid moat
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Someone on that team absolutely adores iron fist the way someone on the Xmen 97 team adores cyclops

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I cant think of any other reason they made him able to pick fights with people in the sky

timber garnet
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Because it's Anime as fuck

fervent pulsar
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Who else is going to fight Iron Man but the martial artist

sand kelp
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iron fist for an iron man

fervent pulsar
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exactly

runic apex
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i hate the wakanda point map so much

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something feels wrong with it

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ive never once had a good game on it

fervent pulsar
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gonna grind some more proficiency with Iron Fist

runic apex
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got to silver

fervent pulsar
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?

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oh

runic apex
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comp

fervent pulsar
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i thought you wrote "go to silver"

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confused me

twilit meadow
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PSA for PS5 players: you can get the Scarlet Spider costume for free, and Peni's VEN#M costume if you have PS+

fervent pulsar
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had a venom try to jump into our backline and kill our hawkeye

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unfortunately for him

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i was playing Iron Fist

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so i just launched my ass to him and killed him

fallow stump
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Lmao

fervent pulsar
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Iron Fist moment

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me when i see anyone i think i can get away with killing

runic apex
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why do i get hard focused over supports whent playing sq

fervent pulsar
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fighting like an absolute crashout trading lives

runic apex
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i just had a psylock solo ult me as sq

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WTF is going on

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i got solo ulted again?

fervent pulsar
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is Sq squirrel girl

runic apex
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yes

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ive been solo ulted 3 times this round over our supports

fervent pulsar
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why Sq and not SG?

runic apex
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your right that does make more sense

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Sq just cause squirreel and i guess SG reminds me of shotgun too much

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but still who wastes 2 psylock ults and one jeff ult on one SG by themself

fervent pulsar
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iunno

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i was an absolute crashout against her last match tho

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trading my whole ass life to confirm that kill

fervent pulsar
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had a Jeff just pick up his entire team and leave in my last match while they were losing the match

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no fucking clue what they were cooking ngl

fervent pulsar
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had such a strong defense that match that the enemy team only got to the objective to cap it in the last 10 seconds

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and it was a escort map

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they didn't even get to the initial objective

maiden radish
twilit meadow
maiden radish
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alright, I'll check in an hourish

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I actually really want that Peni skin

runic apex
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ok im getting scary good with SG

teal mist
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I went in expecting indirect fire Junkrat style

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but just shooting people in the face is so effective

maiden radish
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I was about to freak out about 98% accuracy but then I saw the character lol

runic apex
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yeah she isnt actully junkrat really

teal mist
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And Peni stole the mines.. one day a game will let be play Demoman again

runic apex
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i already bought the player icon for winter but now im like

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"maybe im actully a squirrl girl main"

maiden radish
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I feel so sad I don't like playing Squirrel Girl. Like a character with splash damage, an ability refresh, and a double jump should be perfect

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But I just don't vibe with her for some reason

runic apex
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thats because she is more like a ranged assassin charcter in a way

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you root someone bam bam

teal mist
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Her kit just feels too.. simple? Idk. She's very good and whatall but it's a lot of Hold Left Click

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also the ult is a genuine bummer

runic apex
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ult is garbage

teal mist
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maybe to offset auto damage

runic apex
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its so bad that if you removed it and made it a ablity with a 60 second cooldown

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it would be balanced

teal mist
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I feel like Squirrel Girl and Thor have some of the worst ult business

runic apex
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thors is better than people think

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you basicly gotta dash behind them then ult

teal mist
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Thor's is good if they're already stuck in a groot ult

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it's four feet wide and starts off with 40dps

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people just get out

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The achievement is to get four kills with the damn thing

runic apex
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i do think SG's is the worst ult

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i can't think of a worst one

mild pine
fervent pulsar
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i'm not a massive fan of the Iron Fist ult personally

runic apex
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its a good ult

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but hes also so strong it doenst actully add much

teal mist
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It's a good ult but it also seems to inspire them to think he can solo dive the whole team

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It's great if everyone's also distracted

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but you can still kind of turn around and murder him

runic apex
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i really don't evne know what on earth the dev plan is for SG ult

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damge is bad it does knockback in a very small radious?

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and it bounces around

mild pine
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sg?

teal mist
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and it can be killed

runic apex
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squirrel giirl

mild pine
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ah

runic apex
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her primiary attack does 110

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so it does 40 more damage

sand oracle
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I was wondering if you could combo it with groot walls but no it just breaks them

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it's baffling

runic apex
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i just chuck them to chaotic honestly

sand oracle
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I'm sure it theoretically has a fuckton of DPS if it lands in the right spot but yeah it's not very practical

teal mist
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And if it like homed in that would be infuriating for a good deal of the cast, the randomness is tough but.. idk. I don't know the solve for her ult, truly

runic apex
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id just replace it

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with something else anything else

teal mist
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That's been my vote for Jeff ult tbh

runic apex
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i think his could be toned down

teal mist
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It's just like

runic apex
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make the attack slower

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lower the radious

teal mist
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Absolutely Anti-Fun for the opponents

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Ten Seconds of being out of the game

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and then perchance unavoidable death

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At least let allies jump out of the fucking thing on their own

runic apex
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also i do think hulks ult finisher is kinda bad

teal mist
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Yeaaah it's so much better to just use the other abilities

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The Clap Shockwave is wild in ult form

hexed niche
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Starlord fun

mild pine
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Where the heck the hydra maps gone

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Also I love being a jumpscare moon knight

winged viper
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I think the supports need more movement capabilities. As it stands if u get jumped by a DPS u get destroyed

runic apex
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i think they are fine

teal mist
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See, I'm feeling that some of the supports are like Best Character in the Game kinda space

runic apex
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yeah

teal mist
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Mantis is fucked up

runic apex
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honestly i feel most could use a little toning down

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mainly in the heals

teal mist
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And the ults are kind of 'unless you have a oneshot, combat is nullified for a good long time'

runic apex
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just a had

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also you honestly need supports to be vnulance or you get these unstoppable healing machines that become dps

teal mist
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Should at least be able to stun one of them out of it

fervent pulsar
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healing is fucking ridiculous

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a lot of the times if my opponent has ANY healing i just cannot fucking kill them

teal mist
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This is why Hela/Hawkeye are becoming prevalent

runic apex
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i feel healing in general could hit like a 10-20% hit and be good

teal mist
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They don't give a damn if people are being healed

winged viper
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It might just be that I run into teams that don't protect their healer

teal mist
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Not Getting Owned By DPS is also a bit of a skillcheck for most of 'em

runic apex
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healers have to be squishy for game balnce reasons

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or you get brig

teal mist
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glowers at 275 hp Luna

winged viper
runic apex
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most of them already have an escape tool or cc

teal mist
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aren't they like the fastest in the game

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luna mantis and jeff all get 60% speed boosts

runic apex
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its only adam that doesnt

winged viper
runic apex
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freeze them

winged viper
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I've frozen them and still got destroyed

raven summit
winged viper
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(this is coming from an anna main in overwatch btw)

fervent pulsar
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yeah i mostly lose when they are protected

runic apex
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overwatch made healers too strong and it became a major balancing problem

fervent pulsar
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it's so ass also to fight a healer and just burst down their whole healthbar and then they just heal and you cannot for the life of you confirm the kill

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and you also can't kill anyone else

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cause then the healer will just heal them

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and then you're double dead

runic apex
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healers were outhealing most dps, had way too many get out of jail free cards, they were becoming damge and tanks with healing

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i will say playing solder its great to just grab a healer

teal mist
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I haven't found much Winter Soldier isn't a good answer to

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He can deal with poke he can deal with healers he can deal with dives

runic apex
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tanks mainly

teal mist
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his DPS is pretty solid for 'em!

runic apex
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he can deal with tanks if he has a shreadder near him

teal mist
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Friend is trying to convince me that Spiderman can beat anyone in the game with a high enough skill check and seems to be refusing to understand that the opponents can respond and interact to the stuff he hypothetically does

fervent pulsar
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Spiderman can beat anyone in the game until he faces two or more people dead set on killing him in which case things start to look less cut and dry

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Even then i simply don't believe he's a counter to every other character, genuinely absurd claim

teal mist
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One stun and the boy vanishes, there's a lot of options for countering

mild pine
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anyone can beat anyone as long as the first one has the advantage and can press buttons

teal mist
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Also wouldn't he need like three dive combos to kill one hulk

hexed niche
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They hate me specifically

severe zephyr
mild pine
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No it's the achievement to get wins on that map so I think they made the hydra ones rarer

teal mist
severe zephyr
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Yeah

teal mist
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devs sometimes forget people get Really Really Good At Games

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'i'll just close the gap and - oh he can aim like that too ok'

runic apex
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black widow doesnt have the dps even with headshots to be too scary

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hawkye and hela though

errant folio
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Fun fact about Iron Fist:
It turns out you can just shoot him, like, 90% of the time

mild pine
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not me! I aim like buttery carrots are my finger

runic apex
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fun fact the block move gives iron fist 1.5 times the damge you to do it in hp to him

fervent pulsar
mild pine
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well I'm certainly not running into it

lilac snow
frigid moat
#

Playing Mantis can be really frustrating because your team can sometimes have no awareness of eachother

#

So instead of grouping up or having the tanks support the healers everyone gets ganked

fervent pulsar
mild pine
#

;-;

#

I will continue to be moon knight in random games

errant folio
frigid moat
#

Finally got the mantis kamen rider skin

fervent pulsar
#

Nice

frigid moat
#

The lore in this game always has some insane curevball

#

Like this games spidey is normal but his timeline got flooded with vampires

lilac snow
#

Or the Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda?

frigid moat
#

I like that Frank is from 2099 in this game but it's actually frank because he took Black Widow and Nick Fury's anti aging drug

mild pine
#

I believe black widow is from a universe where she took the captain america super soldier serum and is like the only avenger left or something?

#

My hot take:
I want MODOK, but from a Universe where MODOK was actually a good guy, and is a little freaked that everyone is giving him side eyes and talking about him being evil

lilac snow
#

Do you think the F4 will all be from the same universe?

fervent pulsar
#

game is lagging for some reason

fervent pulsar
#

why is this game so fucking obsessed with not giving you mission necessary fucking maps

green junco
#

Turning off automatic swing is pretty nice

#

Feels like web zipping from the PS Spiderman games

teal mist
#

The mobility is so fun but Spiderman combos just bounce right off me, they feel so.. idk. They don't have the right impact, weaving the webshooting in feels fiddly.. I know he's great I'm just sad I don't like playing him orz

sand kelp
#

I've played against a competent Spidey, they are nightmarish

#

I just can't get the hang of him either

teal mist
#

Oh for sure, part of why I was curious outside of Zooming Around Fun

#

Feels like a solid answer to hela and hawkeye on some maps but just wugh

sand kelp
#

I think that Spider-Man being the most irritating player on the map who zips in and out before you can really get a bead on them is about as lore accurate as it gets.

It just requires a player that is decently brave, good at combos, and can actually aim, ie Not Me

teal mist
#

He's perfect! It just feels miserable in action. The right click is too important to feel like you're attaching a sticker with a slingshot

sand kelp
#

Yeag,,

#

I just bounced right off of him bc I am a shooter player and I prefer my melee characters to be a bit tankier if I'm going to get in that close. Spidey and Magik are good in theory, but they're both very squishy, and Magik especially so for how slow her melee is

teal mist
#

Oh see I absolutely adore Magik

runic apex
#

she can do more damage if you put a quick melee inbetwene swings

teal mist
#

I like every melee but Spidey

runic apex
#

SG,strange,namor,magik, and groot benefit from quick melee

#

inbtween prmary attacks

teal mist
#

Wait Strange gets a dps boost I thought it was for farming cloak charge on groups

runic apex
#

it also has extended range

teal mist
#

neat I'm glad it's not all just like a stock 35 damage or something

#

They're even fkn flavorful for the characters

runic apex
#

i did some very basic testing

next nebula
#

My biggest complaint about Mahvel is that Magneto is slow and low mobility. That doesnt feel very Magneto to me

#

Let my boy fly

#

Even if hes slow and floaty, I want him to have decent mobility, more than just a slow fall and his ult

teal mist
#

Yeah Magneto's vibe in this one's way off

#

Would it be so broken to have a flying tank

#

And having Hover with no ability to rise at all is just ridiculous lmao

teal mist
#

I love how the shield makes people seem to think being Close To Dr. Strange is a safe place to be

lapis aspen
#

it's a shield why wouldnt you hide behind it, it's not like someone could walk around it

teal mist
#

/violent cape explosion noises

#

also the hulk buffs gives him is real nice

#

makes it much bigger, more damaging, and doesn't give you anti-heal if you let it sit

green junco
#

Wow it's really easy to complete these missions

fervent pulsar
#

i think the update made the game unplayably laggy for me

jade flame
#

I want people to stand behind me when i Dr Strange shield

#

My problem is my healers dont 😭

silent wren
#

Don’t you know the best positioning for a healer is about six feet in front of the tank trying to protect them /j

#

Basic strategy smh

teal mist
#

Every Mantis rushing in, assuming they'll get the headshots and dodge the stuns

#

'cause Tier List Youtubers said she's S++ so obviously it'll be easy

runic apex
#

i really hate when people just copy what people say

#

"iron fist isnt op because high level people say he isnt" dude there is no way your at that level where you just can delete him with hela in two shots

timber garnet
#

I am immune because I don't watch Youtubers or read guides on characters

#

I just play what I want

runic apex
#

people really need to realize "balance of effort" is a thing

fervent pulsar
#

yeah this lag problem needs to be walked back

#

whatever they did makes the game randomly completely unplayable

#

had literally zero lag until now and suddenly this

#

most kills, most healing and most assists in the match as Jeff

#

mighty shork

#

18/0/12

fervent pulsar
#

done with the season event

#

feels good

hexed niche
fallow stump
#

AGAIN!

#

AGAIN!

#

AGAIN!

#

AGAIN!

#

And then summer civilian

#

UNARMED AND SAFE!

#

NO MORE!

raven summit
runic apex
#

my hero mission are mainly herosi donlt play

frigid moat
#

Cant refresh them out?

fallow stump
#

UNARMED AND SAFE!

fervent pulsar
#

i'm so happy i'm done with all of the map based event things

#

i can just do all the easy missions and not worry about it

runic apex
#

i only need one hydra win

fervent pulsar
#

charteris base is a fucker

runic apex
#

the sybotite place i got done in 2 rounds back to bcak

hexed niche
#

Gotta say, moonknight is maybe the best new player stomper in the game

#

He legitimately gets team kills every 5 seconds if the opponents don’t know how to fight him

runic apex
#

there is a role he might actully be good at right now as a counter pick

hexed niche
#

Honestly I think he’s like, top 3 ranged duelist

#

Him, Hawkeye and Star Lord

runic apex
#

hela

hexed niche
#

Yah she’s also really good

runic apex
#

i think bot her and hawkere probally need primiary damage nerfs

errant folio
#

I also think lots of heroes having "seasonal" buffs at launch might be skewing people's heuristics

runic apex
#

even without that hela and hawkeye would be pretty strong

lapis aspen
runic apex
#

destroy the ankhs

lapis aspen
#

I didnt know that was possible, I feel like I've tried shooting them before and nothing happened?

fervent pulsar
fervent pulsar
teal mist
#

Ankh range could be a skosh more clear, honestly them in general

errant folio
teal mist
#

Also his mobility is alright but cooldown-y, if you catch him post-flight you can smack him around

fervent pulsar
#

gonna get the final page of the battlepass unlocked tomorrow

#

pretty nice

hexed niche
#

Yah the best way to fight moonknight is separate and shoot the ankhs

teal mist
#

Magik messes him right up in my experience, great burst, sweep implodes ankhs, CC dash he doesn't care for

round gazelle
runic apex
#

i think she is underrated

#

worst ult in the game trhough

velvet sinew
runic apex
#

i found out that the va for SG is the same as version she is based on

velvet sinew
#

Oh, nice

runic apex
velvet sinew
#

Okay

#

that's delightful

#

Never even heard of this show but

#

I love her

frigid moat
#

I hope peni gets a new skin in the next battlepass because I consistently get MVP with her and really enjoy her kit but maaaaaan

fervent pulsar
#

don't like the Venom skin?

hexed hearth
#

what's wrong with it?

#

I really don't think there's any shame in using default skins

frigid moat
fervent pulsar
#

it's

runic apex
#

i thought i saw it on pc

fervent pulsar
#

on pc?

#

i know for a fact it's on pc, my friend uses it

#

just gotta earn enough units to get it, though i suppose that is a challenge in and of itself

#

but it's DEFINITELY available on pc

runic apex
#

i don't like the other skins of my most used

#

which is currently mantis,SG,and winter

fervent pulsar
#

Jeff and Strange have pretty great skins, and Iron Fists one isn't bad at all

hexed hearth
#

I think aside from Magneto and Hawkeye all the default skins are great

fervent pulsar
#

Jeff does unfortunately have one of, if not THE worst colorswap skin in the game

#

i think Peni's colorswap is also up there but it's not quite as bad as Jeffs

#

but yeah the Ven#m skin is on PC

#

i've almost saved enough Units for a skin by now which is nice

runic apex
#

i spent some buying the winter wolder player card and now ive started playing SG more than winter

fervent pulsar
#

i'm waiting to buy one of the skin bundles

#

probably the Sword Master Iron Fist one

frigid moat
#

All my friends were telling me it was like the spiderman skin and was ps+ exclusive

fervent pulsar
#

they are wrong

#

the Ven#m skin isn't free like the ps+ stuff on pc but it is available

frigid moat
#

I would like a blue peni

fervent pulsar
#

fair nuff

green junco
#

The jeff skin and ven#m skins are both from comics

#

The non color swap ones and the color swap ones

fervent pulsar
#

ic

#

i still don't really like them all that much

#

Peni one is personal pref, i don't think Sp//dr looks good in green

#

the Jeff one is barely different which is why i don't like it

compact brook
#

This was a real match i swear

fervent pulsar
#

holy shit what the fuck did you do to red team 😭

hexed hearth
#

i don't know if i've seen a game with that low healing before

#

less than 8k between both sides

fervent pulsar
#

no better way to start a game than rigging the front entrance with landmines

green junco
#

I've been cooking hard with mantis

#

24 kills 3 deaths 48 assists bronze 2

#

Ranked

#

I think she'll be my main

fervent pulsar
#

games been lagging SUPER hard for me in the past few days so i've only been doing a few missions to get my dailies done :/

#

when i say super hard i mean it's pretty much unplayable

fallow stump
runic apex
#

im really confused why i kepe being hard targeting as sg

fervent pulsar
#

different

#

as far as i can tell

fervent pulsar
#

poor baby 😭

hexed hearth
#

if you want to play around jeff's ult, simply don't attack the enemy team, and jeff won't be able to heal to get ult charge

severe zephyr
#

real as fuck

fervent pulsar
#

me personally, i generally play iron Fist so if Jeff shows his cute as a button face anywhere near me i am doing some unholy violence

hexed niche
#

Man I really like the spider island map

#

I think it’s the best map in the game

#

But it’s related to the web of life and destiny so I hate it on principle

timber garnet
#

How so? Dunno much about that Web thing

runic apex
#

that map has the worst loading

timber garnet
#

Also it's the map I get the most

hexed niche
fervent pulsar
hexed niche
#

Ohhh

timber garnet
hexed niche
#

The web and life and destiny is basically the thing that made Spider-Man into a sorta, multi dimensional fate born hero

timber garnet
#

Comic bullshit i presume?

#

Ah

hexed niche
#

That Peter Parker was destined to be spider-man

#

And no one else

timber garnet
#

Yeah that kinda feels

#

Uh

#

Against the vibe of tue character?

hexed niche
#

Yah

#

And like

#

I love spider-verse stuff

#

Just not that

timber garnet
#

Fair

hexed niche
green junco
#

I think as of right now, the web got nuked at least once and now it's like the totems are now free agents instead of being controlled

#

Something like that

round gazelle
#

This poor fucking Shark dog man

frigid moat
#

Man the more popular the character the more the average player is abysmal

lilac snow
#

Yeah I remember Arcane s1 was really rough on certain character's WRs, esp Jinx

#

Like no relevant patch changes, noticeable dip in Nov 2022

fervent pulsar
#

lag persists

#

honestly super demoralizing, at this point i'm only logging on to do bot games for my dailies :/

fervent pulsar
#

might try to rollback my game drivers

fervent pulsar
#

did the rollback, now to see if it helps

#

ok

#

it was the driver!

#

i'm now playing the game with zero lag immediately

#

the december Nvidia driver is just fucked somehow ig

mild pine
#

Woo!

fervent pulsar
#

yeah!

#

i can finally play it normally

#

got my challenges and dailies done right quick

#

also unlocked everything free on the battlepass except the final page art

#

need 940 more chronotokens and then i'll have it unlocked too

#

might just buy the luxury battlepass since it's super cheap and i'll be able to grab everything i want from it pretty much immediately

teal mist
#

Mantis feels a bit like "I wanted to play Hela but we needed a healer" this dps is silly

#

And had no idea how low effort her actual healing was

runic apex
#

her healing is on the weaker side

teal mist
#

She definitely needs a Heal Friend, but understanding more why I keep seeing so much of her

green junco
#

If you can hit headshots, you get much more healing

teal mist
#

This is what I partly meant by the Hela thing, most of her actual interaction is killing people

#

Also the sleep is cursed. You shouldn't get a few free hits in beforehand

hexed hearth
#

though you can really feel the lack of hitscan

teal mist
#

I mean I'd prefer if pretty much only Widow Sniper was hitscan, might be a decent adjustment to Hela Oppression, but ye

sour forge
#

...hela is hitscan????????

teal mist
#

Hela, Punisher, Starlord? Unless I'm missing someone

#

'Single Cast Direct Hit' according to website

#

and Mantis is 'Single Cast Projectile with Delayed Impact'

hexed niche
runic apex
#

psylocke maybe

teal mist
#

Psylocke seems to be projectiles, just astoundingly quick ones

runic apex
#

i think its hitscan or practically hitscan

teal mist
#

I'm just going by their website stuff! Idk

runic apex
#

ima say its hitscan for parimary

teal mist
#

also upon further checking, Starlord's reload-dash actually gives him .37 seconds of invulnerability, what, cool

#

they should tell us more of this stuff ingame by golly

mild pine
#

they really should

#

starlord's a bit of a menace honestly

teal mist
#

ones that can actually aim are a damn problem

jade flame
#

dont need aiming i got Big Shield

teal mist
#

Cruel to have Hulk's Big Punchn'Jump Adventure also include some tight accuracy checks

#

also on that note, does Jeff really need to be Unstoppable in swim form. if you hit a stun on the little fin going 60 mph you deserve the win

#

'sorry, Eye of Agamotto, you see, I am Under Water'

runic apex
#

also the hitbox is tiny

teal mist
#

so tiny

#

I hit hulks' stun on it thinking i'd catch the little devil and watching it just rebound off pained something in my soul

mild pine
silver helm
mild pine
#

People signing their names differently

fervent pulsar
fervent pulsar
#

you can block Iron Mans ultimate with Iron Fists right click

lilac snow
sand kelp
#

different language, genoshan presumably

hexed niche
#

It’s Krakoan

lilac snow
#

Okay, it could be a cipher for Max Eisenhart, except for an extra character at the end it's the right length and the Es and As are in the right places

#

Ahhh

hexed niche
#

The current, at the time, independent mutant nation

sand kelp
#

krakoan- that makes sense

lilac snow
#

Ahh, and looking up the alphabet, it's Max Eisenhardt

dull wigeon
#

yeah

#

great if you played jinx counters though

teal mist
#

less of an intial dropoff than expected

severe zephyr
#

As a crit ADC Jinx doesn't really have hard counters though

#

It helps that Jinx is fun as hell haha

dull wigeon
#

there's some neat signatures in here

teal mist
#

Namor's last name is Mckenzie?

dull wigeon
#

heh that's funny

#

cap's looks old

teal mist
#

Oh his dad is from Boston, he's a local

dull wigeon
#

because it is

soft pollen
#

Wonder how many pens Hulk broke in the process.

dull wigeon
#

psylocke presumably used a brush

teal mist
#

the little butterfly motif

#

psylocke you've practiced this

dull wigeon
#

I'm like 99% that's supposed to be a stamp

#

bucky's is also fairly classic reflecting him being born in the 30s

silent wren
#

Iron Fist's also looks like a stamp

dull wigeon
#

Iron Fist's is a chinese seal

#

so a stamp yeah

hexed niche
#

I really don’t like the hydra map

#

It’s so choke pointy

#

Whoever captures the point first kinda just wins

hexed hearth
#

as a jeff player i think the hydra map is perfectly balanced and has zero issues

runic apex
#

i dislike the point based wakanda map

#

idk why

#

i just perform horrid on it everytime

frigid moat
#

I really dislike the kyntar map

#

It's almost always a blow out

hexed niche
#

That one too

hexed hearth
#

kyntar gets a pass for having the best aesthetic of any map

frigid moat
#

I feel like it's the map with the least side lanes and routes so whichever side hunkers down first is gonna get the advantage and just rotate ults until the match is over

mild pine
#

I enjoy the side rooms on hydra and the moving map details

#

also the tight environments let me ahnk people really good

runic apex
#

they really need ot buff the hitbox on sg's acrown throw

#

its so bad

teal mist
#

I hate Yggdrassil Convoy

#

it's just Open Highways

hexed niche
#

It makes it so swingy

mild pine
#

tru

#

but as moon knight

#

I'm the swinger

hexed niche
#

I play moonknight too

teal mist
#

i loathe moon knight

#

he's fun but golly

#

that's some DPS there

runic apex
#

i kinda wonder if they will give squirrel girl the sailor moon outfit

hexed niche
#

Also just had a match vs someone named Yurigod

#

They were using the Dr strange god of magic skin

teal mist
#

Just a real fan of the ice skating anime

runic apex
#

had a pretty good comeback with squirrel girl

mild pine
#

there is some damage there but also you can be completely negated by healing as moon knight

raven summit
#

So this is how you play him...

mild pine
#

no idea what this is like, will watch, but I'm about to post my own MVP wolvy clip

raven summit
#

He just hunts the tanks.

mild pine
#

I miss my swings a lot

#

pls invite Big Hogg to your next wolverine fight

teal mist
#

dang just keeps rollin

mild pine
#

And those weren't picking up the scraps of other people's fights either

#

I tried to be a real problem for everyone involved

teal mist
#

That's one of my favorite things about the bruisertypes, you're just so involved

#

muckin about

#

especially with Hulkjump

mild pine
#

yea

#

getting in good and smash

runic apex
#

one of the most important things about wolverine isnt listed on his ablities at all

#

that he does % based damage

mild pine
#

Oh also Fox you have hella aim with SG. I struggle landing the hits and damn you got an aim.

runic apex
#

i think it will be better now

#

i realised why my aim has been off

#

i had my sens dailed in wrong

mild pine
#

sens?

runic apex
#

senstivity

mild pine
#

ahh

runic apex
#

a big tip i recomend for aiming better

#

is find a system for sens

#

for shooters my sens is usally 1.2 rotations of my moving my mice across my mousepad

mild pine
#

It's also not helped I've been playing moon knight and his projectile speed is a bit off

#

never fun being chased down as Moon Knight by a Hela

runic apex
#

do you think punisher isnt played as much as others because he is so edgy it puts people off from playing him

mild pine
#

He doesn't have as much schmovement as well

#

and people love schmovement

hexed hearth
#

personally i avoid playing Punisher because the character has gained...cultural baggage

sand kelp
#

i mean, out of the handful of punisher players i've seen, around 2-3 of them had names that were basically just slurs

#

i like frank. i think he's a fucking goofy, ridiculous character, but i can't deny that his target audience sometimes just sucks

frigid moat
#

I feel like in casual matches there at least one player who instalocks punisher and their team suffers for it

runic apex
#

punisher is sadly pretty good anti flank

sand kelp
#

he's also the tutorial character and is pretty straightforward for anyone who plays shooters

silver helm
#

punisher's gimmick is just being a Generic Shooter Character

frigid moat
#

For being the straightforward character a lot of people suck with him

sand kelp
#

more of a gears of war-flavored shooter protag. which i don't knock, i think it fits him. it's suitably ridiculous

sand kelp
frigid moat
#

Btw PSA you can get more slots for your pings in the settings and get more options

#

One of them is straight up "group up"

#

Which should of been a defualt with how much people just braindead dive

sand kelp
#

also a thank you

#

bc like. tf2 instinct always makes me thank anyone who helps

mild pine
#

nice

dull wigeon
#

and a lot of his damage is from headshots or the rocket raccoon teamup

#

all of my highlights as peni suck because it's people stepping into the minefield and vanishing

frigid moat
#

Or just running like a chicken with their head cut off and somehow getting a quadruple

dull wigeon
#

it's just "what did you do" "I set down ten 100 damage mines and thor walked in"

#

the closest I get to contributing is netting fast characters who step into the minefield

#

drones only deal 40 damage

#

But her E does 100

#

and you can shoot those damned far

#

as kinda knockoff projectiles

dull wigeon
#

but give me projectiles and the combo of having velocity and larger projectiles lands me much more hits

#

also as peni I can be physically closer without getting evaporated since her self-heal is nuts

timber garnet
#

I think I'm pretty good with punisher

#

I usually get 20-25 kills as him

#

Dunno how good that is though

raven summit
#

I got a mvp with Logan.

mild pine
#

shooow

#

What did you think of mine?

#

Also

unique storm
#

intercontinental ballistic wolverine

frigid moat
#

I saw a clip of a hulk throwing a wolverine through iron man's ult not only wasting his ult because it detonated midair but also the wolverine lived so he killed the iron man

raven summit
runic apex
#

why is every time i play sG i get focused down hard

#

i should not be standing behind a peni and have both supports next to me and be hard targted over the two supports

mild pine
#

If I take you out there's a good chance I can take out a support too. If I take out a support then SG will kill me.

#

If you've got your MVP Croft I'd love to see it

#

cause I need to learn from other wolverines too

runic apex
#

squirrel girl is now my most played

runic apex
mild pine
#

sproing

#

did they get your team or did you manage to keep them safe?

runic apex
#

some other teammates killed jeff before he jumped

mild pine
#

Lovely lovely

runic apex
#

i didn't help because hitting tiny jeff with SG is not worth the effort

#

and i don't think he got anything but maybe 1-2 person?

mild pine
#

There's some ults where it feels like if I'm being hunted by them I'm glad I'm just wasting time

#

Like I remember I was being followed around by an ulting Hela, who was going for me as I tried to dodge, and honestly in the brief period I was flipping and gliding she could have done a lot of damage to my team

runic apex
#

i wasted an entire hela ult by being annoying

mild pine
#

my team didn't do anything of course but honestly wasting time on that ult feels good

runic apex
#

they spent an entire ult going after me as squirrl girl

mild pine
#

yeah same as moon knight, but I couldn't dodge as easily. It's interesting in their tools, cause SG has a great eject button, meanwhile the zipline takes a while to get anything going and requires a grapple point somewhere

#

it fits their kits well, SG having the tail sproink is important and strong for her, meanwhile MK with an strong escape tool would be a bit too powerful because of their nasty options

#

Part of me wants to experiment with grappling into the floor though, as it does tend to toss you upwards pretty darn high doing that

runic apex
mild pine
#

my favourite part of mine, unfortunately do not have it, is them rotating slowly around to try and catch up with me while I'm zipping around the place, gliding and jumping and screaming internally

runic apex
#

also this is what i mean how i get wierdly hard targteed when playing SG

#

over better targets

#

she could hvae gone after the jeff starlord and some thrid thing

#

but nope gotta attack squirrl girl

mild pine
#

Powerful. Strong. They see you as enemy and wish you death. Something to take pride in!

dull wigeon
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I'm getting sick of jeff's ult

runic apex
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yeah i am too

dull wigeon
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ngl I'm getting sick of jeff

runic apex
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my main annoyanes are jeff ult, hawkeye's arrows and ironfist in his entirity

proper gyro
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speaking of, is that ult's hitbox the floor or the cylinder?

runic apex
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its a big cyldndier

proper gyro
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ok airborn doesn't help?

runic apex
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i just go airbonene because it makes them less likely to target me

dull wigeon
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yeah jeff ult just turns off pushes

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to a degree that no other ult can do

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both ults this round were "well everyone I guess we wait for twenty seconds because we've lost a third of the team"

sand kelp
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in my limited experience playing this game, there's two ults that inspire primal fear in me. the first and foremost is jeff. the second is scarlet witch, but that one has a windup time where you can shoot her

runic apex
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i think in a game without ledges jeff's ult would feel less oppoersive

dull wigeon
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I'm getting good at webbing thor out of ult

runic apex
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because his ult does feel less opresive on maps without many ledges

dull wigeon
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yeah if jeff's ult wasn't a guaranteed double kill on some maps it would be less of a pain

mild pine
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Hela's ult is also horrific to deal with

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Ult's are gonna be rough in the end

runic apex
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i feel like 1000 is a bit much health

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in a game where shooting that high is hard

dull wigeon
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it's so hard to knock her out of ult

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oh peni can drop up to 15 mines

silver helm
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ironfist needs to be tuned down but not oppresivly. a genji-like hero that can be played like how people played genji without requiring a pocket mercy Jeff is nice

dull wigeon
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I think travelling ults need to be either consistently unstoppable or consistently not unstoppable

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had a really rude moment where I tried to web a hela in ult only to discover "lol no"

runic apex
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pantehr is the genji

mild pine
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psylocke close too

runic apex
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panther has wallclimb, dash reset mechnic

dull wigeon
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I kinda wish peni's guns hit harder

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not that much harder but she ends up feel very pillowfisted against tanks that can clear her mines

mild pine
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Psylocke's got a dash reset as well, though only on kill not on consumption of mark, though no wall climb, pulls out a big sword to murder folk on ult though

runic apex
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what does it reset on

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i think she just has 2 dashes

teal mist
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Peni doesn't deal with range because of how absolutely brutally she deals with dive DPS

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also it's not a reset but Psylocke gets some cooldown reduction for landing leftclick

green junco
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Which is really good

raven summit
runic apex
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they know jeff is cute

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wait what

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they basicly added splatoon

lapis aspen
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holy shit Jeff Splatoon

timber garnet
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Is it bad I'm waiting for the inevitable dev fuckup that runs the game or whatever

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Like I'm enjoying it but it feels like every nowadays shoots itself in the foot somehow

hexed hearth
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my mindset is that i'm treating it like overwatch 1

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there'll probably be a few good years of increasing fun before something goes awry

lapis aspen
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Although I get being worried about it going to shit, at the end of the day all we can do is stop playing the game when it stops being fun

green junco
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These skins are heat

severe zephyr
timber garnet
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Fair

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I just have anxiety i suppose

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Apologies

severe zephyr
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Not that I think the game’s gonna rule forever I’m just not having long term expectations

raven summit
green junco
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My expectations with this game are on the more optimistic side, just due to how transparent they've been so far and that they took a lot of the criticism from beta into the full release

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Could always go wrong but it sounds like the devs are committed, kinda like OW 1

severe zephyr
green junco
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Holy shit

timber garnet
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Skill issue

severe zephyr
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Incredible discourse coming out of these MUs

lapis aspen
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Punisher is very killable. Spider-Man I get he's got that web swinging which is annoying to deal with

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Punisher is like, just shoot him

green junco
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I think it's mostly people frustrated at the turret

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Which I too am

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He is very killable though, just the turret triples his health

teal mist
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Shotgun damage can be a little silly

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But Turret does feel like Ult: 2

timber garnet
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I Punisher main so I'm biased :v

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The smokescreen feels useless though

teal mist
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The movement seems fine, the screen itself.. iunno

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Moderately distracting

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it's on top of the zipline too so not like he has to finagle it to double jump

runic apex
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the smokescreen is useflu to get away

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you can also jump with it

teal mist
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Interrupts the Panther Combo

green junco
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I think in a tight sight line, it does like remove lockon for any of those lockon characters

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Also you can't see for like half a second if you're trying to look through it

runic apex
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if it does remove lockon that seems really good against scarlet,cloak, or iron fist

teal mist
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Punisher honestly has a neat kit, if his usual moment-to-moment wasn't holding left click near the backline i'd maybe poke at em

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rapidfire is wrong, bullets should be enormous and terrible

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nice to have someone with legitimate reason to use both weapon modes though, the rest of them are sort of.. onesided

green junco
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When playing cloak, I can't toss daggers through a smokescreen with lockon

teal mist
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Wonder if that also means it prevents spiderman grapplething

green junco
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That I'm not sure about

round gazelle
green junco
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Oh sick!

glass pollen
teal mist
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People continue to underestimate Dr. Strange DPS

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So many really, really confident divers

maiden radish
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I was really sus about Strange but he's probably in my top 3 characters

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The damage is absolutely a part of it and using the shield to deny ults is always fun

teal mist
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Its like real basic kit but it really has an answer for most problems

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And then portal shenanigans a bonus

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I prefer playing bruisertanks but I usually end up the only one and that feels less helpful for the team

next nebula
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So far my biggest complaint about the game is Magneto. Hes good, but he doesnt feel like Magneto at all

sour forge
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he in no way feels like magneto

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if they were gonna steal all this shit from Sigma why did they not just make his ult flux

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TK'ing everyone and bodyslamming them is so much cooler and magnetoey

green junco
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Instead of the wall, would be cool to do the sigma thing with his black hole but toss it back at the enemy

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Titanfall style

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But I guess it wouldn't work on all projectiles since some are like energy or organic

sour forge
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who gaf about lore he should have that one bullet succ power from bioshock infinite

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it's so fucking cool

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sigma is such a cool fucking design too, it's such a shame he's stuck in overwatch

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in terms of kit

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I cannot blame rivals for stealing like 80% of it and then patching the rest with zarya because duh

green junco
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I get what you're saying

sour forge
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it seems like it should be really disparate but it flows so fucking well, it's just a shame it ended up being most closely tied to the hell of double shield

runic apex
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i feel like magneto's right click should do more damage

sour forge
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his right click is weird

runic apex
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right now it does slightly more damage than a leftclick

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but it has range

sour forge
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the synergy with bubbles is 100% cosmetic because it automatically recharges

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it's so fast it's almost hitscan but it's also a weirdly tiny projectile

next nebula
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I just want magneto to have some amount of movement. It sucks that fucking magneto is the least mobile character in the game

sour forge
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it's so weird that he has a hover with zero way to actually generate vertical momentum

green junco
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A ability that lets you make floating metal platforms would be cool

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Kinda like lifeweaver platform

vast geyser
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Just realized this thread is here upon which I will say I really really wish Magnetos sword was baseline

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I would rather his charge up mechanic be based around his sword and not the mag cannon, as useful as that is for comboing duelists to death

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I would rather not need the red lady to have like half my dps

runic apex
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i think they should just boost the damage on the rightclick

vast geyser
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Also, whenever Wolverine is on my screen

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I should get a special pop up

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That just says "Debone him?"

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To which I click yes and he explodes

runic apex
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leftclick does 35+40 aoe

rightlick does 90 at full charge

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yeah it does on a direct hit

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15 more damage

sand oracle
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it also knocks back

sand kelp
sand oracle
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but yeah no magneto's damage feels really pathetic

vast geyser
sand kelp
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i'd love lore-accurate marvel gameplay but this would mean magneto has counters against at least a third of the cast

vast geyser
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This is acceptable to me. Also give him the outfit from the '97 show

sand kelp
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real. he deserves color in his life

green junco
wanton salmon
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holy shit the new magik skin has a fucking chainsword

wanton salmon
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it absorbs enemy bullets in range till you throw the ball

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you can counter ult a starlord and just, eat his ult

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then kill him with it

sour forge
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that's kind of funny

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and

wanton salmon
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but he SHOULD be able to AT LEASSST fastball wolverine on your team

sour forge
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in hindsight would also explain why i was having such a hard time trying to kill him while channeling lol

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although jesus christ every character has six yugioh cards' worth of text in their kit

wanton salmon
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yeahhhh

runic apex
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i can respect this though

raven summit
wanton salmon
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i would respect it more if more characters were more similar to like, any of their comic versions
honestly magento is one of my three least favourites in terms of kit