#Mahvel Rivals baby
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zero weaknesses besides like shotgun and mantis sleep
he can block jeff's ult
Yeah I read what you've said about him before.
he can block mantis sleep
He does seem to me like he's a little too strong.
the block is honestly insane and i lose a lot of the time in fights cause i'm not good at using it
But idk I never played him myself and I don't see him enough in game to know how to deal with him
fair
I'm a magik believer
his attacks auto lock onto people and cna even follow them even if flying
kills/assist,blocks, and the self heal power all give overheal
Surely I can rush further rand further into enemy territory and do fine :clueless:
My friends have started to like tell me to get back
I'm like a too excited dog and they're pulling my leash.
for example
you can't escape Iron Fist as Iron Man even if you fly away at full speed
I had an iron man before that I totally beat up with magik. It was hilarious
he also has 300 health start cause you get 50 health free from his healing as perma overheal
which stacks with your overheal from kills
yah
also means his sustain can be fucking stupid
so long as you keep killing you can keep killing
he will just heal
He definitely seems a bit too much
honestly probably yeah
Like I can be fine with him being able to chase down like that as long as they make his survivability less easy
People deserve to be chased down. That's what magik is all about >:3
Especially iron man
he is the ultimate dive character
i mainly play winter
he can go in any direction and also has access to wallclimbing
as if he didn't already have enough
He does splatter really easily against punisher but let's be real who doesn't
That shotgun is a crime
the funniest thing to do to Punisher is wait until he's on his turret and just fucking appear behind him and kill him
i think people overate psylocke a bit
she's just fucking annoying to fight
Punishers are so easy to kill in the turret.
you sadly cant use the turret let you could with basiton
if you're losing to a character whose only abilities are an okay shotgun and a dash you might have a krill issue
I meant psylocke although you could argue that kinda describes punisher as well
his shotgun does quite a bit more damage though
Oh that
it chunks people
The problem is
he fires hydrogen bombs
Psylocke also feels a little struggle-y compared to other assassin types
She does damage quicker than me and unless i have my block available to burn to kill her i'm not winning the dps race
one of these characters has an auto-aim primary fire
Great dps but she just explodes if you glance at her
Doesn't really help if she kills you in like three shots
Honestly most of the time i'd rather fight a tank than a Psylocke
you're getting killed in three shots???
2 and a dash if they sweat.
Hyperbole, point being she kills me real quick when i go in for it
I've been watching Psylocke guides and if she animation cancels she can melt squishies.
Iron Fist has 250 health, 300 if you're using your abilities properly
He can self heal with kills and his shield but that's not always helpful
if it's a squishy v squishy fight and you die because you got meatshot three times in the head ngl I think they just gapped you
Does he lose the dps race with enhanced autos?
i feel like so many rounds start off strong then i do worse as the enemy team has a kill on sight policy over all other allies
Hi idk much about Marvel Rivals but the shark is cute. Iron Fist punched my head in yesterday.
im not joking i legit on this game have 3 people hard targeting me
i was 19/4 by the end of round 2 21 14 by end of 3
ok rocket racoon went really well
How do you play Black Panther? I keep just beefing it
sit back and poke with right-click, then once you have marks you can jump in with dash, get a refund from the mark, do melee damage with your m1 + shift, then dash out again
he's even more extreme than genji because his only far-range poking tool has a significant cooldown
whereas just spamming chokes with genji m1 is a time-honored tradtion
but being able to get the reset off with- yeah
you can dash way more often during the actual kill itself without having to worry about missing it and dying instantly
the mark having an AoE application as well is pretty disgusting
splashing people's feet applies it as welll, right
ive used to to get some kills too cause it is a nice aoe
idk if a direct does more damage or not
i never thought baout until now but psylock's ult has the same problem as genjis
its so easy to just aoe heal ult it
im now on team nerf jef ult
got thrown off?
like 4-5 times in one game
it was one of those point capture levels
also its larger than it looks which is part of the problem
twice i was out of the visual range but still got grabbed
Oof
He's just a baby
I love jeff
He's just so cute
And when they're on my team they're helpful
And when they're on the enemy team they die fast
He's the perfect little baby :3
he is adoreable i just think his ult could use tuning
It's luna snow, cloak and dagger and mantis that I like less.
I think his ult is fine
It's easy enough to dodge it and even then he's literally lil baby
He deserves to kill everyone :3
He's just so cute
And when he's on the enemy team I just become the ATF and hunt that dog down.
what's cloak and dagger like?
Never played them but they die pretty alright to me
Squirrel girl :3
Really good aoe healer, lot of moves to play with because they're two peoples... cloak does way more dps than people seem to expect
Also can make your whole team intangible
Dodge the Horror Jeff on reaction
idk if its because i died or what but im still upset about not geting the achvment
getting 1 kill is hard enough with that ult
I honestly think if the team up gives you an extra cooldown they're good
Like Hela's is kinda underwhelming but magneto's literally makes the character
hela's is pretty strong if you think about it
every tim eshe gets a kill she gives max hp to loki and thor
or revies them if dead
It sounds good but Ive seen it proc once
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The price of cosmetics is so arbitrary (and I hope it stays that way because the MCU ones are ugly and expensive)
i noticed a new thing today about winter
So his damage scales with the targets health?
yes wovlerin edoes
you see that symbol above them
that means if you hit them with your ult you will get a reset
i think jeff is mostly balanced and honestly if if it wasnt for pits id say his ult is balanced too
honestly
i'm finding success with Black Widow
the melee half of her kit is pretty much worthless
the damage is actully wierdly high on her melee
yeah but why would you ever melee when you can turn someone's skull into granita
but she probally shoulnt be running out and meleeing
but long-range damage is at such a premium that just being a hitscan sniper with good movement is a really strong niche
a headshot doing exactly 99% of a standard character's healthbar is probably a good balancing decision, with how fast her rate of fire is
but it is so sad every time
... it's weird to me that widow is a sniper, given that in the MCU she's a martial artist with occasional guns, but it makes sense for at least some of her comic runs.
martial arts get much more attention in stories, since that's what's actually interesting to watch
but the core of her character is an assassin/spy, and guns are much more useful to assassination than fists
also, from the voice lines i half-listened to, the black widow in Rivals has taken the super soldier serum and is the last living avenger from her universe after Doom killed the rest
which is an interesting take on the character
squirrl girl's voicelines with jeff are good
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Also, you wanna get in a fistfight with Hulk and Iron Fist?
I think Hulk actually does significantly less melee damage than she doe
not even a joke
she actully has some of the best melee damage raw in the game
He does I think he just has 800 HP
squirrel girl is good. It's a comedy comic by Ryan North (author of Dinosaur Comics and other things) aimed at young children.
so wolverine is better than people think but still terrible
he once did a throwaway bit where Squirrel Girl somehow defeated Thanos offscreen, to poke fun at the concept of powerscaling
and then during Endgame, all the people obsessed with powerscaling went "woah, squirrel girl beat thanos?? she must be so cool!"
people have just run with "squirrel girl is god" ever since for various reasons
it's a good bit ngl
the difference between hulk and black widow in melee is that hulk is literally the single hardest to kill character in the game
i think venom is more unkillable
so he can afford to charge the enemy, while she is dead in 4 microseconds of charging in
hulk does have the shield that just makes him immune to damage for a few seconds
and i think hulk+banner might be more hp than venom+max shield
venom has a lot of shield regen
They're both a PITA to kill
peni?
might be peni
peni in a setup is really difficult to kill just because of how much regen she gets
im not good at tanks
also because she's usually living in the direct center of a minefield
tangentially related: ryan north's fantastic four is very good. Reed and Doom being verbose assholes is a great bit.
is the version of psylocke in the game diffreant than the usual
idr if her being white is still a thing in the modern comics or not
i haven't kept up with the latest comics
but i don't remember seeing her in an overtly japanese/ninja aesthetic before Rivals
i just remember her mind being put into a ninja being a thing mentionde in xmen legends
her personality has typically been just "no-nonsense woman who likes contorting her body so her tits and ass are both facing the audience in the same panel"
wh-why is there a character named #Ultimate Universe|Emperor Sunfire
and the one in rvials is called Sai
wait is the first part just a tagging system of the wiki
She off-screened Galactus too iirc
yeah they just fucked up the link synta lol
that's pretty common wikimedia I think, just borked
I'm assuming there are separate pages for each universe's incarnation
regular reed richards is uh
quite different to the maker
could you imagine seeing a supervillain pronounce "hashtag" in their name
She also defeated Dr.Doom
that one horrendous millenial superhero team
ah yes, issue #30 where snowflake and safe space are fighting hashtag and his woke mind virus
I do love this panel with Uatu the Watcher as a witness that she soloed the real Thanos
I also like how it's implied it was only her and Tippy who did it
Thanos really got washed by one of the most mid mutates ever and an actual normal squirell
Nah Thanos is just washed for that one
Losing to Squirell Girl has to be an anti-feat
Squirrel girls power is literally just talking to and commanding Squirells, aside from having some physical mutations, I.E her tail and ears, she has no other abilities as far as i am aware
Her powers also include shitting on universe-tier people off panel (and occasionally on panel these days)
More or less a squirrel-themed toonforce
she also has the proportional strength of a squirrel
which is less impressive than proportional strength of a spider, but still pretty decent
I was curious about that
the website has the detailed stuff
which is how i learned wolrvrin does damage based on max health
so he does more damage to tanks than to squishies
Yeah I gotta check that out
it's weird that there's no way to see it in-game
the anthem for modern gaming lol
I'll need to see if Iron Fist has any weird mechanics
i didnt notice any other than his listed dash speed with the multi fist
of 12 ms
the average movement speed is about 6
thats the same speed that ironman's sprint gives him 12ms
yes
I am pleasantly surprised that they didn't go with the Danny Rand Iron Fist, but I also wonder why the devs didn't go for Shang-Chi instead?
Why does the website list it as 30% damage reduction?
yeah thats absoutely not true
I don't think it is but it would be funny if the complete immunity was a bug
even if it was i don't think it would change his power that much other than being immune to ults
interesting
(I also kind of lowkey want to see how Rivals could do with Shang-Chi wielding the Ten Rings)
wow gamma overdrive is... bad
thats a very tiny buff yeah
Did Moon Knight get hit? Punisher?
Yeah for whatever reason the website has info that's nowhere in game
Like wolverine doing % health damage
i justed noticeed there is atimed range in the training area
That is. Odd
Yeah Iron Fists block is not 30%
Straight up cap
It's 100% block
Pretty sure it's omnidirectional as well
And works on status effects
It works on basically everything
I reckon it's getting hit this patch
It blocks Mantis Sleep, it blocks Jeff Ult, it blocks Scarlet Witch and Iron Man Ult
I hope they don't hit IF too much tho
I'm trying to get good with Psylocke and something just isn't clicking.
It's absolutely impenetrable for its short duration
I hope so too
He's been super fun to play
I feel like too much of Psylockes power is tied up in her incredible close range dps, all her abilities mostly feel... okay, like she can get the job done but iunno
She's my least favourite matchup as Iron Fist, i get absolutely mulched by her close range attacks since i need to get in close for my melee
you need to aim to the head for the crit bonus
but you want to aim for the body with the rightclick
Hawkeye kills tanks so fast, the difference between him and Widow feels.. intense. One shots are unhealthy for the game except Purple Guy for some reason
to be fair one of them is hitscan and the other isn't
hawkeye has a really wierd charge mechnic
It's not as weird as I thought it'd be, it's pretty quick, and true about the hitscan but Hanzo Mains have had time to practice, his output is kinda wild
his melee can reflect wierdly enough
My brain always wants it to be attached to his shift knockback so I get pelted with a lotta stuff for free
But 384 damage on a headshot, lord
The man what demands the Spidermen and Iron Fists
Also the training grounds are real nice
thats def kinda high
thats enough to oneshot anything not a vnaguard
i don't think there is any 400 hp non tanks is there
Not baseline, only Wolv and Pun at 300
Can Wolverine tank it with his E?
Punisher is 275
ahh gotcha, i don't play him so i just remembered he had Vaguely More
Oh what the fuck rocket raccoon ammo overload gives punisher a 67% boost to firerate?!?
oops
His rifle in overload has the same DPS as his turret
Playing Thor as just a lorge DPS has been very satisfying.
Spend enough time tackling people they forget you can Ascend and fourshot their healer
He miiight be my fave atm
I'm big on the tackle, drop e on the person you just charged, ascend and ball out
Admittedly I do think he's maaaybe a bit thin on defensive techniques to be the only tank in a 1-3-2.
Yeaaah he's better with a shield friend or somesuch, but so damn nice to just obliterate anyone trying to dive the backline
Thor/Hulk is hilarious though
I feel like there's absolutely room in the world for a Thor/Venom divecomp. Just fling large idiots at a defensive team, break a point open.
I haven't really figured out how to take care of most of the melee characters like the brawler ones. Tanks are fine cus magik just outhealths them somehow but like idk how to really deal with iron fist or wolverine. I guess it's actually just those 2, I can't really think of other characters rn.
I don't see wolverine enough to know how he works
Also whenever there is a venom my friends an I always refer to the venom like that one meme that's like "agotdetvenompenumnumdeyantgonknowatitum"
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I've been seeing an upswing in Wolverines Doing Alright lately, folks seem to be figuring it out
There feels like a lot of stuff this game never fully explains
Which is alright because people are slowly learning it, but there's a bunch of marks and symbols and things that are important to how people play and you kinda just learn that as you go
Speaking of; Wolverine Claws do a bonus 1.5% Max HP Damage, he shreds tanks
And that's the damage that scales up with rage
Wolvie being a tank shredder makes sense
I wonder if that max hp takes overheal into account for some characters like magik and iron fist
I’ve found a Penni with her mines set up is pretty much impossible for any melee character to fight
None of them do enough damage, especially with the healing she gets on her webs
You either die or take so much damage you need to disengage
Peni is one of the few tanks I can't just kill
Peni stronk
no iron fist nerfs yet, just bug fixes
Unless something is absolutely egregious, nerfing things in the first week is a bad idea imo. Give some time for people to adapt. Iron fist is strong, but he isnt ruining the game, maybe folks will adapt
I agree
Idk I still think iron fist being the only melee character who sticks to enemies is dumb
If you're almost guaranteed to hit all your shots then your damage should be less
to be fair, pretty much anyone is almost guaranteed to hit if they're in point blank range
I think Iron Fist does feel a little unfair, as he can just like leap into a healer then use an ability which deals enough to kill you
Then he can disappear and meditate until he's healed up
getting into melee range is a big risk, and I think it's reasonable for there to be a payoff for it
but iron fist seems overtuned while the other melee DPS seem undertuned
yeah i usally agree with the wait ot nerf stuff but iron fist is an exception sometimes you just know something is broken even early on
tbh you can generally make Iron Fist players lives hard by just keeping an eye on your healers and having decent team composition
iron fist also has a what i call "balance of effort" issue its so much easier for iron fist to do what ever but it requries multiaple people to be shooting at him and using all their ablities to kill him, most of the time.
just because something can be beaten doesnt make it balanced if the effort is unbalanced by a huge degree
he probably needs some nerfs mind you but he's not gamebreaking, i'm just hoping they don't go overkill on nerfs when the balance patches come around
Bugfix his block, and maybe through some of the other melee people some bones, and see how it comes out.
I don't think they need to change it right away either but just noting as someone who plays mostly healers Iron Fist is just really annoying in a way I don't feel like I can really interact with
for my money, Wolverine really needs to be thrown a bone
i don't think buffing the other charcters would make iron fist less opgressive, and i don't think its a good idea when its mainly one hero having an opporessive kit
he's fun to play but the damage feels incredibly anemic
Wolverine does feel pretty easy to kill when he should probably be like, mix class tank/dps
As his whole deal as a character is being hard to kill
it's a fucking crime that he doesn't have any real self heal tbh
i know he has the one time self heal near death thing but that's hardly a substitute
Is his healing factor supposed to be represented by his armour thing?
i have to assume so
not having his healing be represented at all would be so fucking dumb
it does unlike normal charcters become normal health
hes better than people think but hes still bad
that's my feel with him
his damage against tanks is actully pretty good
i think i honestly had more fun with his kit than Iron Fist at times
but it was such a struggle to get kills unless they were alone most of the time
He's great against the dive tanks, just sit on your healers like a protective dog and tackle anyone that arrives
yeah
Chews through hulk so fast
i usually play him like an assassin
flank the enemy, find one of their squishies, grab them with the shift and just fly away
But any healing and his whole thing kind of doesn't work
honestly yeah
turns out squishiesh are not what you want to attack with him
he does damage based on max health
that kinda fucking changes his whole gameplay style
which you know
why the fuck isn't that information in-game
i feel the same with Iron Fist a lot of the time
Healing is real strong across the board but there's a few chars who just don't have the burst to beat focus
yeah
5% at max rage is so meaty but that base damage, oof
Iron Fist can pretty much obliterate anyone with good timing but if they have healing then you better say your prayers most of the time
yeah poor guy did not get good damage on his attacks 😭
yeah
on groot he would be doing
it's the reason i kinda dropped him and hopped on Iron Fist
55 per hit
Iron Fist kinda just does what he does but better
with max rage
Okay somebody tell me why I, someone notoriously bad at PVP shooters, am having a BLAST with this game
And also does anyone wanna play lol
They're doing a lot of things right, very unique skills and whatall for folks.. lot of polish
gonna be able to get the Hela skin on the battlepass tomorrow which is nice
I'm nervous about gaining credits after the story missions end
Like I bought the battle pass to get the mantis skin but I'm worried that they're still expecting me to pay
mhm
fun game
i cant speak for everyone but it also helps me that i dont have to be good at pvp shooters to contribute to a team win
being extremely tanky and positioning well speaks for itself
they made a good game and the earlier you jump on a hero shooter the more fun it is
Because everyones learning and there isnt like hard metas
How forgiving is this game on decade old PCs and what are some recommended starting heroes? ^^’
It is a UE5 game, albeit a pretty optimized one from what I've seen- you can change the settings as you wish obvs
As for starting heroes, the difficulty rating in stars next to a corresponding hero is usually pretty on the money, with a few exceptions
In my experience, Cap and Hulk are the easiest tanks, Punisher, Iron Man and Moon Knight are the easiest duelists, and Jeff and Luna Snow are the easiest supports
That's my sample size of One though, and YMMV on that
i wouldnt say moonknight cause the ankh
The ankh allows you to be very forgiving with aim and the projectiles already do pretty substantial damage
Rocket is another easy support
Peni Parker is weird - she’s marked as hard, she’s got a very loaded kit that has a fair amount to keep track of, but it flows together very well and a lot of it boils down to “keep throwing mines at the choke point and keep stunning the divers”
Yeah, Peni is supposed to be difficult but really her role tends to boil down to Lock Down an Area, and anyone who gets into her Area is at an immediate disadvantage on account of all the mines and slows
How’re Cloak + Dagger, Magik, and Psylocke? Those ones caught my eye
I'm very biased towards Cloak + Dagger personally
magik and psylocke are both hard to play
ive played every hero at least once and some ive retried with new knowlage
Psylocke, once you get her down can be one of the most irritating players in a close range context, save maybe Iron Fist
from what I've seen in matches C&D are pretty good, more damage than a normal healer imo
but never played them personally
Magik requires a lot of positioning knowledge to survive encounters, bc it is Remarkably easy for her to get shredded in direct confrontation if you're not always moving
hence them being strategists not healers I jest a bit, but
the roles are not the most clearcut
loki does a buttload of damage suprisingly
Venom?
If you can figure out webswinging Venom is pretty great. Very good tank but webswinging is something I just don't get
venom is hard due due webswining mainly
i've heard turning on manual web aiming in the settings makes it much easier
it was better for me for spiderman but not venom
because it turns spiderman into zips instead of swings
Venom's shtick is getting into a cluster of enemies and disrupting them for as long as possible. He can't take as much direct damage as you Think he can but he loves to divebomb into a crowd and apply slows
Hmm. All very interesting; it looks like Squirrel Girl would be a good intro duelist, also
What’s TTK like and how does tanking work?
her aiming stuff is kinda hard to adjust to
TTK is very fast
tanking depends on character
some have shields, some have overheals like Venom
hulk and venom are meat tanks and strange is a shield tank
Squirrel Girl is also very fun and straightforward, yeah. If you like Junkrat that's pretty much her kit
she is harder to use than junkrat because of the tigher hitboxes
I believe, Thor?
Actually I guess I mean more OW1 Doomfist where you can really flatten people
Hrm. Yeah, Thor is a bit of Doomfist and a bit of Rein
Cap took Rein's shield identity and Thor took Rein's charge into someone with a big hammer identity
That sounds like my man then
He's p fun, yeah-
Thor is a lot of fun
He’s honestly hard for me to compare with a lot of OW characters
Thor's very strange
imo he plays a lot like a lifesteal character who just doesn't have lifesteal
If anything I'd say Strange took Rein's shield
Cap’s shield also ricochets projectiles
Thor, Hulk, Venom are all in the vein of 'large idiot who jumps in and touches buttons'.
As opposed to the more shield oriented friend like Strange.
Or Magneto, even
Magneto has pretty solid sustain
Especially since attacking him gives him a delete button
Caps shield can reflect Ironmans ult
Having Wolverine on your team sucks.
hes the worst charcter
at the very least
storm has a very good ult
and cna buff allies with damage
Anyone want to play?
Storm is so weird
Same
Not the streak I just also like iron man
I did get a 16 kill streak just now with iron man tho, nbd
/s
nice
Peni doesn't need a ton of active mechanical skill I think is the contradiction
Maintaining her setup is important and knowing how to use it offensively even moreso but the mines and nest don't require active supervision
it's such a shame that Storm is bottom 2
i loved flying around as Pharah, and I really like Storm as a character
her mobility and damage are just so much worse than iron man
and her team buff is only relevant if she's pretty close to the ground, which negates her whole gimmick of being able to fly around to better vantage points
they could at least make her buff be a cylinder instead of a sphere
yeah shes honestly a charcter i think they should just throw away and redo
her entire kit is a contradiction
Shes slow and floaty so she should stay awy from combat, but her buffs only work being close in the action where she dies ultra easily even to non hitscan.
she can float away and be far away that gives her more survaiblty but then give her slow projectile attacks that are hard to hit and have no aoe?
Squirel girls weapons seems a bit strong
Jeff took my ult but I made him pay
her other ablities is a jump and a very short durration lock in place
and an ablity that lets you use one of those for free/remove cooldown
she seems like a pretty decent tankbuster but they're so small they're both impossible to hit and dodge at range
Before today I was like "what does squirrel girl even do" and then I learned what she does when she beat our ass
I fucking love bouncing my acorns off of walls to get around corners
Twink obliterated!
remember to quick melee inbetween proimary swings
also it does have fall off
the primary melee for some reason
I'll remember that eventually.
Like maybe
Ever
its actully one of the few quick melee combos the game outright tells you actully
its in the hero guide for magick
do people know who Armor is?
i do not
i quite liked the Astonishing run that introduced her
but i've never seen her in anyting else besides Marvel Snap
which is primarily designed to be a collection of characters no one ever heard of
what about Inexplicably Buff Mary Jane as a tank
her ult is obviously summoning Paul to stun the enemy team
though i do think it's pretty likely Captain Marvel will be a tank
and there's a nonzero chance of Gamora being one
"calling up goons to do things for you" is peak character design and more games should do it
Kingpin being a tank who summons goons is so obvious
Femme tanks from Marvel:
Captain Marvel
Gamora
She-Hulk
Jessica Jones
Kitty Pryde(Dodge Tank lol)
Sue Richards(Shields shields shields)
Jane Foster As Thor
i do think when it comes to tanks you kinda need to them to be big in game or they get annoying to fight which does limit things and why we got wierd dr strange
Nebula is a good option I think
How about Rogue?
Rogue could work, too. She's pretty durable.
Rogue feels like a tough powerset to translate
True
it's possible to have non-big tanks, I also just don't trust any game to implement them well
i think charcters like rogue have an issue with you can't really have small model tanks and be fun to fight against unless you make them really wierd
i feel like the obvious bit is "E a nearby enemy to steal their E for a while"
maybe if its like a summon based tank
Big Buff Rogue
where its not them doing the tanking
Rogue could have one attack that like
steals cooldown from an opponent
Or like, a silence
If Magneto gets a 6'7 300 pound version of himself why not anyone
if they put Rogue in this game as Rubick it might actually be the GOTY
Pepper piloting Hulkbuster could work honestly
One that I really want to see
pepper actully got her own suit in the iron man show
I want Carnage.
Hulkbuster would be pretty sick
Gimme carnage with abilities that reset on kill
yeah, but Hulkbuster is the most iconic alternate iron man suit, and they'd need someone besides Tony to pilot it
true
Also Kamala Khan
If they add Pepper she's almost certainly going to be Rescue and a strategist.
i actully really liked that show
As much fun as hulkbuster would be.
Particularly the comics one, where she's routinely massive.
Armored Adventures.
is Wasp ever big?
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you would think "iron man but teen woudl be bad" but nah its really good
it was shockingly pretty decent
Although Pepper becoming getting an armor and becoming Rescue comes from the comics.
Uhhh.... I can't think of any of the Wasps every really using the "grow big" part of things.
I think ant man with an ult where he just
gets fucking huge
would be kinda hilarious
If there is going to be a Team Iron Man tank it's going to be War Machine.
Automatically breaks destructible terrain as he walks through it
... actually, Kamala getting "rocket" fists that are just her streching out and punching you from a city block away with cartoonishly large fists would be good.
doing the jojos stand rush
didn't Kamala get killed off in a really shitty way in the comics?
Yeah.
In a fucking Spider-Man comic, so they could do MCU synergy by revealing she's a Mutant and an Inhuman.
weren't Inhumans made to just be "Mutants but Fox doesn't own the rights to them"
Yes. Which is why she was one when, ironically, the original creative team wanted her to be a mutant
I thought she's back now?
So in a roundabout way Marvel gave them what they wanted. By friding her. And resurrecting her on Krakoa.
Well no, they existed way before then, since the fantastic fours early days, but marvel pushed them in the 2010s to try and replace the X-Men as this big hotness.
Yes*
Wait, a quick google search turns that to just "yes" w/o weird caveats
Ant-Man or Wasp being tiny and very hard to hit would be incredibly funny until you bring the splash damage out
pushing to point and you cant find the enemy Psylocke
what passive?
Spideysense
what does it even do
It only activates from a range you can practically hear them breathing at
It makes the screen darken and gives you a wiggly particle effect
When people are Sort of Close
yeah thanks
i feel like a way that this would be useful is if it alerted ults
like he can know when someone's ult is up
Spiderman being able to see ubercharge like Spy would be so fucking funny lmao
She-hulk is a shoe-in for a female tank, titania maybe?
They've been willing to adjust characters visually to make them fit the role i.e. strange and at that point it could be anyone
Or stuff like Peni where she's a near one-off
I could see War Machine as another hitscan duelist rather than a tank
If they run Iron Patriot instead of war machine imma lose my shit
Oooo Emma Frost as a tank cause she's made of diamond?
Silhouette issues but maybe
Carnage, Scream, Hybrid, Toxin, Mania
I'd be surprised if we didn't see Knull after a while
Jessica Jones probably wouldn't be atank but also Jessica Jones :3
If they added nick fury do you think they'd add white comics nick fury, sam jackson nick fury, or sgt fury?
all 3 and they make him a cloak and dagger like charcter
I think comics nick is more intresting as a video game charcter
than samel's
I don't know if they'd add Cable just because of how much overlap he'd have with Punisher
Maybe a skin
Nick Fury is the first multi-character where you have all versions of Nick Fury heading out because it's multiple of him from the multiverse all coming to kick some ass
like Meepo or the Lost Vikings
Oh yeah this would NOT work
there's not any side objectives to complete either
so you don't have a reason to have characters that can split and soak and jungle cause there's no jungle
but consider this: funni
I remember seeing someone mention Medusa in response to this question, where you do the Dr. Strange thing of using her hair to fill out the silhouette of a tank
I've also seen people talk about Baymax in Marvel Rivals and that's not gonna happen. Like yeah technically Big Hero 6 is a Marvel property but it's been entirely subsumed by Disney Animation at this point
It'd be neat if he could place Howling Commandos or Shield Agents as turrets
War Machine but the suit is one of the iterations with tank treads would be kinda hot
If Ghost Rider makes it in, I would be Overjoyed
Frankencastle, lady punisher, the other lady punisher, war machine punisher, Old Man Frank, Ghost Rider Punisher, and Ninja Punisher
If we're doing weird Punishers, there's also Soldier Supreme
I forgot about soldier supreme
That was a fun one
Wait no soldier supreme was cap
Punisher/Doc Strange was someone else
If the leaks are to be believed we're getting all of the Fantastic Four, which... I don't know how you distinguish The Thing from Groot or Hulk, but they're figuring it out, if so
do people know who Armor is
Thing is yellow and chunky I guess
People didn't know who Luna was, there can be oddballs
i really like the Astonishing run that introduced her, but i've never seen her in anything else besides Marvel Snap
Yeah I wanna hear people's oddball and dark horse picks, not just popular chars and alt versions of popular chars
Me personally? I'd kill for more villains. It would be so based of them to include Crimson Dynamo, Mandarin or Ghost before War Machine, for instance
kingpin as tank is the freest pick ever
Mandarin I think might be unadaptable
yeah idk
i don't think they could adapt him and his 10 rings
He's got a really wide power set and his classic look is a racial stereotype
Also his name kinda is too
I know not every interpretation can be as cool as Armored Adventures was
I think mechanically they could totally manage it
I doubt they'll touch it though
Green Goblin as a flier could be fun, but that's a pretty obvious choice I feel
Big Wheel
If they added crimson dynamo do you think they'd add the male or female one?
As long as they're Beeg it would matter little to me-
mandarin but not racist.......
Okay that does look cool but it hackles me that it's clearly a Japanese samurai design
Which was dynamo...five?
Just have no mand or arin
simply add MODOK and make him take normal headshot damage
I would say Graviton but that would step on Magneto's toes a bit wouldn't it-
Dynamo 11 13
He's semi-aquatic, he can take it
Add Viv Vision before regular Vision.
Also, I was thinking about like, Sebastian Shaw as a Take Damage to Deal Damage kinda guy
magneto and loki already have abilities that reward you for getting damaged
True enough, but making redirecting damage into the kit itself would be a newer fit
also Cap does that
and i think hawkeye also has a deflect
punishing players too much for attacking can be a feelsbad design space
iron fist does too
It can be, considering Iron Fist's uh.
Yeah
Also Shaw still in jail for what they did in First Class
A truer dark horse pick for me would be Annihilus
what does loki have?
his shift heals every nearby teammate for any damage they would take
if there's an enemy loki, don't shoot anyone in a green circle
He's not super unpopular but I see him in very few things, which is a shame bc Armored Antidimensional Bugman with Bat Wings fucks hard as a design
my main hope is mainly gambit cause i like gambit
That's valid. I would want him too
i do wish they would get rid of his wierd helmet
I hope they do a member of alpha strike just for me
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPNPE3SaH5lFBMb1SYgRCscJBvxqY8dkFiLgITchH3RAqohnTaQDZXNSHz8SXkLMzSJOE&usqp=CAU just let his hair be like this honestly
lol
Accurate
i feel like namor's kit feels like it doesnt flow that well
its just a really strong core
I loved civil war avengers dissassembled Secret Wars
he has turrets? that don't live long but expect yout to buff them
1984 or 2015?
they did another one?
Don't forget secret empire
all my comics knowledge ends when my uncle was like, 25
damn steam is down for maintence
There was Secret Wars (1984), Secret Wars II (1985), Secret Wars III (1988), Secret War (2004), Secret Invasion (2008), and Secret Wars (2015)
1974 or 2017?
Reading this reminded me of Detroit Steel as a character and I don't even fucking know why you'd pick that or how you'd adapt him but the idea of him going into the roster highly amuses me
On some level I really want King Arthur
I think that'd be hysterical
and it's like, very possible
If Magik can do it-
not likely, but
when will they add Aunt May
Wonder if they'll put in Hercules
Son of Satan
I'm honestly most interested in how many villans we end up getting
Actually, while I'm on the subject of Iron Man villains, Living Laser would be a very, very fun pick
2017
I keep thinking of Doom Patrol but that's DC and I'm sad
“YO WHERE OUR HEALER”
Iron fist in the backline putting Luna Snow in an infinite near a wall or some shit
Quoting Corde 🐉 (@Cordeeeeee)
Iron fist be hitting Arkham Batman combos against niggas in the backline
I want more "bad guys" in the roster, especially bc the ones that they've designed turned out SO FUCKING COOL
LMAO
I WANT TO PLAY AS KNULL SO BADLY, BC THEIR DESIGN WHIPS
Ultron is coming
I need doom
I'm also excited about that- I wonder if he's going to be another summoner type
inject doom into my veins
I’ve heard strategist
So plausible
What's a Moon Knight villain?
I feel like you could throw Kingpin in there for Moon Knight and Spidey
Ooooo Hammerhead...
I was gonna say, I always see him contending with the Spidey crowd for some reason
rhino seems kinda fun honestly with the destructables
Doc Ock I could see in any of the three roles tbh
but, mysterio is way too cool
i'm glad they're friends
They're good buds
i'm happy to see with the leaks about Ultron that he's not looking like his MCU self
He Kinda does, what with the head shape
He's had that head on and off
i never liked the design choice they made with MCU Ultron to make him more human looking
you know I'd like some less human shaped folk. Need more centaurs and weird shapes
give me Next Avengers Ultron
I've always wanted him to emote Less
Ultron was never as menacing as he was in this movie to me
i want him with the big fucked up mouth with energy effects in it and the antenna ears
My favorite design of him was actually the Age of Ultron (comic) design, in all gold
OH
bro was scary as FUCK
This head/body shape is peak Ultron, to me
The most important parts of ultron are the being metal and the “>:D” face
that looks more like blingdok
Aaa
MODOK is the leader of AIM
how could my few seconds of vague memory fail
Arnim Zola I think
I need to analyise cube as MODOK
I don't fault you for it, they're very similar looking at a glance lol
looking at my favourite recolors i think it's gotta be between Spider-Man, Loki and Venom
I hope we get a map on Ego
Wolverine's alt color makes his boots less atrocious
Chasm, Frost Giant and Anti-Venom are all doing the absolute fucking most with just being chromas
they cook so hard with so little
I do enjoy a good quality recolour
Spidey's first chroma being Chasm is pretty inspired, tbh
It makes the weird spider logo make more sense
yeah it is
and Venom's being anti-venom is nice as well
honestly? i think Anti-Venom looks cooler than Space Knight
Settings settings... Oh, we have Magik, we could get some missions set in Limbo
I wanna put Magik on the throne
I'm with you on that. Space Knight isn't fleshy/goopy enough for me
I'm on Cyan Clash Venom forever
cyan clash?
Beta Skin, makes him look all MVC2-y
ah
yeah i didn't get access to the beta so i couldn't get it i guess
Just a recolor but like The Recolor
is it in the full game?
that looks fucking awesome yeah
Not yet, at least
Which, I know, that's the point of the skin, to look different, but also Venom is Brick Shithouse Sludge Boy, why did you give him armor like everyone else
i kinda love the Bag-Man Beyond skin
I will never turn up my nose at a Bag-Man skin
Magiks Eldritch Armor skin also looks fucking banging
REAL
Tragically the only skin I kind of dont' care for is my man Thor v-v
Storms Mohawk Skin is also great
lookin like a Warcraft Man
also, her chroma is pretty good too, but I'm biased, I like magenta
you don't fw Herald of Thunder?
I think making his default skin a bearded old man decked out in armor is also very inspired tbh
kinda funny that the Endgame Iron Man skin has the Infinity Gauntlet
in the cinematic thing at least
honestly i think the MCU designs are some of my least favourite
That's usually the case for me, too, with like one notable exception
they just like, don't really look like their movie selves
and they don't do anything super interesting either
so they end up looking kinda half baked
Namor cannot look any cooler than he did in Wakanda Forever, and I might die on that hill
i like the starlord one
sorry but i don't fw his Wakanda Forever design 😔
I also very much appreciate the character designers giving more characters melanin
Making Scarlet Witch actually olive-skinned? Holy shit?
does make her costume a lil jarring but alas
Her MoM costume sticks out a lot more, yeah
yah
I like the outfit she had for that movie. Iirc the leaks also showed that Zombie Strange is getting a skin as well, which. That fucks Hard
god the MCU backstory for them sucked so bad
I might not like a lot of things about MoM but nobody can make me hate Zombie Strange
Zombie Strange was by far one of the coolest things in that movie
how do you think they will handle a speedster in this game?
Quicksilver
His melee attacks deal more damage the faster he's moving
gradually builds speed over time
He could be our analog to the lucio wallriding too
I like the idea of gradually building speed
You could make it a resource too similar to Strange's dark magic where it resets when you use a specific skill
Alternatively, his attacks are very fast but don't deal a lot of damage
death by a thousand cuts etc
That's basically just melee Star Lord but it would probably be how it's done
An idea. Emma Frost would make a pretty good tank. Crystal form could be a self-shield. Add some sort of psychic pulse that eats projectiles and deals damage, and some sort of stun for a third ability
i think they removed wakanda
?
I've gotten it plenty of times, I think you're just unlucky
aren't the level-specific missions the ones that don't actually give anything
no
you need all for the cards and one the kills one does give purple stuff
yup
what do the cards do
they mention spider punk in the web warriors achievement unlock story thing
It would be kinda cool to get spider punk as their own character
mhm
There's also the bombastic bagman
ngl the rewards do seem really really really meager
playing just out of enjoying the game seems much better than playing for trying to finish missions
"if i get 10 kills as this character i get 80 purple. once i get 4,000 purple i'll be able to get 100 blue. for 1400 blue, i can get a single skin of my choice."
unless there's something on the battlepass specifically that you want
Yeaaah it's real Mobile Game spaced but it's free and whatall so I'm torn
i just feel like it's healthier to view it as "the game is free but all cosmetics cost money" instead of "the game is free and if i grind achievements for 50 hours i can get a single skin"
you get blue from missions too
but yeah it isn't a lot
idk game is free so i'm just vibin
also honestly alot of the skins are kinda eh to m
I miss President Loki from the beta v-v
Magik second skin goes hard tho
who would be a good hero to link up to moon knight?
Other than cloak and dagger who already do of course
Blade perhaps.
Played Jeff for the first time. Immediately swallowed the entire enemy team and ran them off the map. I can't go back now.
blade would be cool
also. interesting to see me getting literally ran down by the enemy team. Seeing the enemy hela ult then literally follow my running/jumping/gliding frame as I try to get away
My bet is blade will have in ability or passive that will let him life steal and that will be the team up, Moon Knight getting access to that somehow.
i don't think anyone currently has a double teamup boost
do not ask me if I am willing to ride blade unless you wish for the answer
its more of i think jeff is the only one with two benfits its gets
spiderman gets the symboite thing
and alslo does give sq the web bombs
but he doesnt recive two things
stuff like groot riding adn fastball kidna feel more like team up moves
and less team up powers
Yeah but I'd be happy for Moon Knight to be the one to buff blade
like it could happen that direction
So played some PvP as moon knight, interesting time. One of those funny but weird things where bots will just aim at you immediately if you get in view at all, so I'm very used to playing careful, which apparently made me enough of a pain that I had black widow snipers, a hela ult, and captain america charging me down just to keep me from messing with the enemy
cause it turns out, take your eyes off me for five seconds and moon knight is a menace
Dr. Strange has 2
2 what
Two teamups, I assume
two
i only can think of hulk and the gamma thing
2
still no wakanda
im 12 dry on wakanda
13
ok i think hela needs nerfs
@winged viper rivals hangout spot
Consider, as a vanguard
20k damage blocked as Dr Strange, good way to end my night
@winged viper we think you'd maybe be interested in this channel?
we don't play, but the people here do
already pinged them
yeah. sorry. im new to the discord. lol
.... I count 6 in the photo?
its 3 duelists tho
The enemy team has a Loki too, they're doomed
good news, crossplay is a thing so platform is of no concern-
Yeet
jokes on you i am Also a healer
Oh bet
We can either double up or I can tank, been having fun with Strange lately
Username should be ChronicledEtho
i'm in horus hangout if you wana VC, if not that's chill aswell
I'd love to, two secs
God fighting Peni is just anti fun
hello anyone wanna help me do the entangled monments?
I can't believe this ability is in this game lmao
